Open Forum: November 30, 2019

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  1. Oh come on

    I can’t believe the femmos are *still* trying to pretend that quilting is some kind of ultra fine art.

  2. feelthebern

    Trump is testing out nicknames for Bloomberg.
    Calling him mini mike.
    I think he can do better.

  3. Leigh Lowe

    Many of the books about the Trump Administration rely on anonymous sources. 

    Walking past the local Collins bookshop (which constantly pushes lefty authors) I see a stack “Fire and Fury” by Michael Wolfe on the chuck-out table for $5.
    (I await the Spud’s response that he just happened to be chatting to the owner of the Toowoomba bookshop who told him it has sold out and they are anxiously awaiting back orders of 100 copies).

  4. Knuckle Dragger

    OCO,

    Apparently it is very much a thing. A fellow umpire’s missus is big into it – drives the bloke mad.

    Apparently she goes interstate all the time for quilting competitions or whatever, and went to NZ for one early this year. The goal, evidently, is to be good enough at making quilts to go to the Global Quilt Fest* in France sometime in mid 2020.

    Hopefully golliw#gs make an appearance on the winning stitched-together bits of blanket.

    *Probably

  5. Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of Trump:

    Someone here once said he had bone spurs or something.

    Can’t remember who.

  6. Mother Lode

    Live and let live I say. All this faux outrage however is laughable.

    It is an Alinsky thing about demanding people people live up to their own standard – with the additional twist that the progressives decide what people’s standards are to be.

    FWIW one of their favourites is to point the finger at religious people who, should they show a single flaw, they will denounce as hypocrites etc, even though the religious figure never said everyone was perfect.

    I have no problem with the idea of an imperfect priest hearing confession. Even if they get blotto on Saturday nights or gamble some church money at the greyhounds (lefties go to the Trots), if they recognise that as a vice then they understand what virtue is – possibly better than a person who never feels temptation.

    Progressives, on the other hand, are always being tripped up on their newly contrived dogma. If you take a progressive from a generation ago and thrown them in the mix with the modern lot, the moderns will soon condemn them: Their misogyny, their lack of concern for their environment, their belief in industry, their ‘exclusiveness’ with regards to rainbow marriage and discomfort with the demands of the competing victim groups which did not exist 25 years ago.

    Even within their own generation we see them falling on their faces begging forgiveness for transgressions such as Wil Andersen and his ‘identify as’ joke.

  7. Juan

    Australia’s biggest corporate theft took place in the Wild West – Alan Bond trousered over a billion dollars worth of Bell Group shareholders funds.

    With the connivance of the then Labor Government which caused the SGIC to buy Bell Group shares and convertible bonds.

    Also, Bond’s bigger crime was against the shareholders of Bell Resources, which under Bond’s control made a $1.2 billion unsecured ‘loan’ to Bond Corporations Holdings to fund its forced takeover of The Bell Group after the corporate regulator deemed the twin 19.9% stakes acquired concurrently by Bond Corp and SGIC – from Robert Holmes á Court’s Heytesbury Holdings – as a controlling interest.

    Nb Bell Group’s main asset was a controlling interest in Bell Resources; the latter’s only asset was $1.2 billion in cash (serious money in the late-1980s) and the easiest way for Bond to get his hands on it was to simply lend it to himself (or rather the company bearing his name).

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3250617, posted on December 3, 2019 at 10:36 am
    Trump is testing out nicknames for Bloomberg.
    Calling him mini mike.
    I think he can do better.”

    Don’t worry Bern….the Trumpster is just warming up.

  9. cohenite

    Speaking of progressives, the delightful traceeeeee sugar and spice is lawyering up against some of the women she was helping:

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/tracey-spicer-accuses-three-women-of-defamation-after-abc-supernumbermetoo-documentary/ar-BBXCDsr?ocid=spartanntp

    Traceeee is a classic case of vagina dentata.

  10. Juan

    I have no problem with the idea of an imperfect priest hearing confession

    Speaking of which, I was surprised this happened in the middle of Attorney-General Porter’s attempts to build consensus for religious freedom laws: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6518858/states-agree-on-mandatory-reporting-laws/

  11. Mother Lode

    Joe Biden is increasingly reminding me of Tiberius at Capri, with his ‘minnows’ and ‘spintrians’.

    And I am not going to say whether ‘his’ in the above refers to Tiberius or Joe, because I am not really sure.

  12. C.L.

    Interesting summary from Butlin, Stack. That was a dire time, for sure.
    I see from the PDF link that it was S. Butlin.
    Sydney’s life and career were impressive:
    http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/butlin-sydney-james-syd-9647

  13. C.L.

    So Tracey Spicer is now suing women victims?
    This didn’t turn out quite as she expected, did it?

  14. Tel

    The weakest productivity numbers in at least 25 years have unsettled the outlook for an economic recovery, a pick-up in wage growth and a string of budget surpluses predicted by the Morrison government and the Reserve Bank of Australia.

    Wages will converge towards marginal productivity not overall productivity.

    I wish we had people capable of grasping the difference there.

  15. feelthebern

    A paragraph from Matt Taibbi’s latest column.

    Ever since the Ukraine scandal blew up, and Yovanovich’s name began appearing in delirious news articles, I searched for a second story layer to explain why we’re supposed to care that Donald Trump “removed” an ambassador.

    Ambassadorships are literally for sale. Presidents routinely nominate as ambassadors dopes with bags of money and little experience. New presidents make way for their dopes with money by firing their predecessors’ dopes with money.

    By the time Barack Obama was re-elected in 2012, academics were able to put concrete price tags on individual seats, as the New York Times reported in early 2013. Obama in his first run had fired all of Bush’s ambassadors, then tried to send to Norway a hotel CEO who’d raised $998,550 but didn’t know the country didn’t have a president. Bush did the same with Clinton’s envoys.

    Yet the Yovanovich story – essentially, “President Fires Ambassador He Dislikes” – was hyped as a treason narrative. Early in Yovanovich’s “explosive” testimony, she elaborated on the “false narratives” theme:

    Although I understand, everyone understands, that I serve at the pleasure of the president… the U.S. government chose to remove an ambassador based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with questionable motives.

    Translation: I understand the president can fire me for any reason, but I disagree with the reasons.

  16. johanna

    Oh come on
    #3250616, posted on December 3, 2019 at 10:34 am

    I can’t believe the femmos are *still* trying to pretend that quilting is some kind of ultra fine art.

    It’s not a fine art, but it is a very skilled craft. If you admire good furniture making, or goldsmithing, you cannot decry quilting. Sheesh, you guys are so sensitive. 🙂

    For Bruce and others interested in birds – I have a new visitor, a Little Wattlebird. Tell you what, those honeyeaters work hard. It leaps about in my backyard callistemon (which looks like a bottlebrush, for the non-gardeners) sucking tiny drops of honeydew – it is hard to equate the effort with the reward.

    The giant kangaroo paws are coming up, so soon I will get those tiny honeyeaters that can’t resist. It must taste very good.

    What they eat in winter around here is a mystery.

  17. Oh come on

    Don’t get me wrong. There’s nothing at all the matter with quilting. I have no doubt it takes a great deal of skill and craftsmanship to do it well. What I do object to is the feminist contention that a fine quilt is on a par with Michaelangelo’s David as a piece of art. See the article I linked to above.

  18. Helen

    Latho asking for help with his legals for lawfare defamation.

  19. EvilElvis

    Another “libertarian” then.

    Yep, another libertarian fuckwit who sees themselves standing on the edge of societies abyss, some grand out of body overseer and the only ones who ‘get it’. In reality all they are is a mangy dog chasing their own tail, that gets a shampoo and a ball thrown by a deranged lefty occasionally.

  20. Mother Lode

    I’m genuinely surprised the @realDonaldTrump is slapping punitive tariffs on the ‘Brazilian Donald Trump’.

    I’m not.

    An American Donald Trump puts America first, and a Brazilian Donald Trump puts Brazil primeiro.

    Assuming the see tariffs as beneficial to their countries then either one of them would implement tariffs to the benefit of their own people even at the expense of a kindred political spirit. To do otherwise would be putting political friends ahead of your own people.

  21. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    It has nothing to do with looking prepubescent for men.

    Elle
    You deserve time in the Naughty Corner.
    One of the Founding Members of the Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards introduced a Forbidden Word – obviously in an attempt to create the opportunity to spew her Righteous Outrage over everybody of the male gender. As per normal.

    Other Cats were wise enough to ignore the bait, but then you came along and repeated the Forbidden Word, thereby stirring into action newer Cats unfamiliar with the High Moral Standards of the High Moral Standards Committee.

    Now we will never hear the end of it.
    I’m quite sure our now-triggered Founding Member is somewhere close, working herself into outraged outrage before exploding forth, even as I write this.

  22. Oh come on

    I think you missed the context in which I made my comment, Jo.

  23. classical_hero

    What’s this cold weather that some are talking about? It’s already 30 and it’s just 8am.

  24. Mother Lode

    Alternatively people can get on board No Dildo December.

    I rarely watch free-to-air, and certainly not their ‘News’ programs. So No Dildo December is more or less a given.

  25. One of the Founding Members of the Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards

    and the
    Movember Members of the Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards
    and the
    Flaccid Members of the Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards

    so many committees !

  26. Tom

    More evidence that Vicpol charges against Darren Weir — Australia’s No.1 horse trainer until he was banned in January this year — are a Pell-esque witch hunt that will either crash and burn or be thrown out when they reach court.

  27. Mother Lode

    So Tracey Spicer is now suing women victims?
    This didn’t turn out quite as she expected, did it?

    #MeToo #JustMe #BelieveAllTraceySpicers

  28. 1735099

    Recent references by the usual suspects to the 1965-66 Indonesian genocide are sparse when it comes to actual facts.
    This is probably a good place to start.
    From the link –

    I am happy that they have partially excavated Luweng Tikus and found the skeletons. But many others remain scattered across Indonesia. And we have a long way to go before we have all the answers we deserve. I believe that if we want to learn from the past we must know the truth about our history.

    Obviously, genocide is only an issue when it’s committed by Marxists.

  29. Oh come on

    Ambassadorships are literally for sale. Presidents routinely nominate as ambassadors dopes with bags of money and little experience

    True. That’s a tangible and genuine example of quid pro quo.

    The only qualification I’d make is that ‘career diplomats’ are made ambassadors to countries like Ukraine. Being sent to Kiev isn’t really much of a ‘thank you’.

  30. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Another “libertarian” then.

    I do wish Cats would stop deliberately conflating Libertarian Philosophy with Friedmanarian Collectivism. The first is a rather simple explanation of the legitimate functions and limitations of government, written by Frederic Bastiat in the early 1800’s. It can be found here.

    The second is yet another collectivist version of We Know What’s Best For You, promoted by a lifelong bureaucrat on the public payroll, whose main claim to fame was being the architect of legislated wage and price controls in America during the Great Depression.

  31. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    Mini Mike Bloomberg has instructed his third rate news organization not to investigate him or any Democrat, but to go after President Trump, only. The Failing New York Times thinks that is O.K., because their hatred & bias is so great they can’t even see straight. It’s not O.K.!

    Yeah, needs to work on the nickname.

  32. Oh come on

    And it isn’t an issue at all if the ‘victims’ are Marxists. It’s a good thing. Release the helicopters!

  33. Cactus

    The bark Endeavour almost sank following a collision with what would one day be called the Great Barrier Reef off of present day Cape Tribulation. As hard as it is to picture now, the Endeavour ran aground on a coral reef. Of course in 1770 the reef was much more extensive than it is nowadays due to its premature death from climate change.

    Cook was able to bring the Endeavour into what is presently known as Cooktown on the Endeavour river. It just so happened that this was the centre of the the Great Northern Fleet’s home base where he found a number of drydocks available to refit and repair the ship.

  34. Des Deskperson

    ‘The Oz is now reporting on the convoy to Canberra and there’s a link there to other articles’

    The local ABC in Canberra covered the convoy in its second news item last night, after the South Coast Tallaganda fires.

    Given its size, I supposed the ABC could hardly ignore it. On the other hand, the report was surprisingly informative and balanced.

    The ABC’s reporting here on the fires has been patchy and tardy, with a rather heavy focus on the destruction of some eco-poster couple’s sustainable, off the grid utopia somewhere south of Braidwood.

    Braidwood Community Radio’s reporting on the fires was – understandably – much better although it also spent a lot of time bemoaning the loss of the eco-saints’ life work. ‘At least they saved their guitars, so we can still hear their beautiful music’.

    They had reportedly planted a lot of trees.

  35. Oh come on

    Bloomberg is, as I’ve said before, a curiously underpowered figure considering he’s a billionaire media mogul. Can’t blame Trump for not taking him very seriously.

  36. mh

    Bend over Bloomberg? He’ll bend over when the ChiComs tell him to.

  37. will

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3250645, posted on December 3, 2019 at 11:08 am
    It has nothing to do with looking prepubescent for men.

    Elle
    You deserve time in the Naughty Corner.

    MV has failed to understand that women dress, and groom, themselves for themselves only and in competition with other women. MV has failed to understand the male role is meal ticket and sperm donor. MY has failed to observe that women check out other women far more than men check out women. MV is very narcissistic and needs time in the naughty corner to reflect on the evolutionary psychology of male female interaction.

  38. Des Deskperson

    ‘Obviously, genocide is only an issue when it’s committed by Marxists.’

    This genocide was committed mainly by RoP. From the link:

    ‘Al Jazeera’s Step Vaessen talks to former executioners and finds out why so many people – mostly Mus lim youths – turned into cold-blooded killers..’

    But we already knew this.

  39. Arky

    Don’t get me wrong. There’s nothing at all the matter with quilting. I have no doubt it takes a great deal of skill and craftsmanship to do it well.


    Nah, it looks pretty easy.
    Let’s see them sew a Model A Ford fabric top.

  40. Mother Lode

    Ideally, terrorists should be put down.

    Hey! Terrorist! That scruffy beard just looks like you are trying to hard. Is it an attempt to appeal to your goatfriend by looking like its mother? Ya dickhead!

  41. Roger

    Sentencing has several objectives, but when it comes to terrorism offences only one aim is appropriate: community protection. Compromising this objective for any other goal, such as rehabilitation, is breathtakingly misguided.

    Good heavens!

    Common sense from the halls of academe!

    Someone send it to dim bulb Christian Porter…better highlight the salient parts for him with a coloured marker.

  42. areff

    On the subject of fires, the ABC is reporting the story of a woman who took the burned remains nof her home to Canberra and dumped them outside parliament as a protest against Morrison’s climate policies (apparently giving a billion dollars to rent-seeking climate spivs doesn’t buy him any brownie points).

    Anyway, the protester is a certain Melinda Plesman.

    Plesman, eh? What a coincidence. The Queensland publicist for Wilderness Australia is a gal called Gemma Plesman.

    Wilderness Australia is staunchly opposed to fuel-reduction burns.

  43. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    What’s this cold weather that some are talking about? It’s already 30 and it’s just 8am.

    If you are in the Eastern States and it’s a clear, cloudless day, Hero, you can expect an unseasonably cold night to follow – maybe even a frost!

    Welcome to the future. But cheer up – only about 140 years of it to go.

  44. Roger

    On the subject of fires, the ABC is reporting the story of a woman who took the burned remains nof her home to Canberra and dumped them outside parliament as a protest against Morrison’s climate policies…

    According to her SloMo is responsible for the climate crisis.

    These people are delusional.

    Did she take her rubbish with her when she left?

  45. Ellie

    …the evolutionary psychology of male female interaction.

    The evolutionary psychology of vanilla male female interaction. The interaction is so boring and predictable.

    MV is already in the naughty corner. We’re having a coffee and discussing Friedmanarian Collectivism.

  46. mh

    Last night Brisbane was heading to 38 degrees this week. Got a few headlines.

    Now the BOM has already downgraded those temps.

  47. johanna

    OCO, no probs, there are indeed eejits who claim that craft is art.

    Des, I have been following the Braidwood fire closely for a few days. Having been in Canberra in 2003, I know how these seemingly benign fires can turn into catastrophes. At one stage the fire came within 1km of Braidwood.

    When I bought my joint in Queanbeyan, my solicitor informed me that the whole of Queanbeyan is classified as a potential bushfire zone. Well, it is surrounded by eucalypts and pine forests, on hills. In January, the conditions (hot westerlies) are very dangerous indeed. We have had bushfire smoke off and on for a few days here.

    At the moment the Tallaganda fire is covering 20,000 hectares and they claim that it is under control. Meanwhile, the winds are variable to high.

    This is exactly the scenario before the firestorm hit Canberra. Luckily, it’s relatively cool. But everything is as dry as a dead dingo’s donger, most of the fire is in inaccessible areas, and when the RFS claims that it is ‘controlled’ they are having a laugh.

  48. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    MV has failed to understand that women dress, and groom, themselves for themselves only and in competition with other women.

    Will, a couple of months ago I wrote the following:

    “All unattached women see all other women as competition.
    All attached women see all other women as a threat.”

    Boy, did I get a caning from the Kittehs.
    Which was precisely as expected.

    Tread carefully my son.
    Hell hath no fury like a Kitteh exposed.

  49. Ellie

    Boy, did I get a caning…

    Stop triggering me … and hogging the naughty corner!

  50. mh

    On the subject of fires, the ABC is reporting the story of a woman who took the burned remains nof her home to Canberra and dumped them outside parliament as a protest against Morrison’s climate policies…

    I’m guessing these people believe ScoMo can affect climate outside of Australia too.

    Nor’easter Promises up to 20 Inches of Snow on East Coast

    https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/12/02/noreaster-promises-up-to-20-inches-of-snow-on-east-coast/

  51. Juan

    Pray tell, is it bad manners for us to be causing merriment in this Open Forum, while a newer one lies mostly idle?

    “Manners maketh man.”

  52. C.L.

    Ambassadorships are literally for sale. Presidents routinely nominate as ambassadors dopes with bags of money and little experience.

    He wasn’t quite a dope but Joseph Kennedy is a classic case study.

  53. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    We’re having a coffee and discussing Friedmanarian Collectivism.

    Bummer!
    I was hoping we could discuss your preferred style of handcuffs – padded or traditional cold steel?
    I’m a bit of a traditionalist myself, but I wouldn’t want to take you out of your comfort zone.

    . . . Well . . . not too far out of your comfort zone . . .

  54. stackja

    Mo created this constant image of the pending threat and used it to full advantage.

    Mo did this by selectively using terror to leverage future enemies into submission.

    Russell G. Rodgers

  55. johanna

    The bark Endeavour almost sank following a collision with what would one day be called the Great Barrier Reef off of present day Cape Tribulation.

    It’s hard to imagine what it would have been like to sail off into the unknown in a 90 foot ship. These guys were true heroes – but the prevailing culture says that they are genocidal agents of white supremacy.

    An Aussie film-maker could make a wonderful fillum about Capt’n Cook – but somehow I doubt that funding from the usual suspects would be forthcoming.

  56. johanna

    Well, Peter, you will use the word ‘all’, which is stupid.

  57. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/kK_eQImKnPA

    Vale Greedy Smith.

    These blokes were great.

  58. Woolfe

    In Perth today its going to be the hottest day evaaaaaaaha. Tomorrow as well, oh and probably Thursday, come to think if it Friday may pip them all. Yep.

  59. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Those Plesmans seem to share common interests.

    That will be handy for Christmas. They can all catastrophise together. Meantime, I have been planning some Ground Rules for our Yuletide get-together on Christmas Day. No Trump, no Brexit, no Oz politics, no bushfires, no climate matters at all. Safe topics are children (but nothing ecological like disposable nappy discussion), schools (fees and getting admission, but nothing to do with what is taught and how), wine and food (no vegan talk), work (how’s it going in general terms) and travel (no carbon offsets, and no Greta stuff).

    I think I’ll probably just say on matters political and climatic, let us agree to disagree without any need for discussion, and can I get you a drink now? One lot of rellies coming Christmas day, about 20 of them, and another different lot of about the same number, Boxing Day. Some of the first lot are already complaining about two of the invitees on Christmas Day, but I say they are coming, this is a time of good cheer and Christian feelings of goodwill.

    I have fourteen girlfriends coming for Afternoon Tea this week; we will talk husbands and fashion and renovations and Chickflix and Maeve Binchy (ugh!) books and children and weight loss over the cakes and scones. Some will be more on my wavelength in matters literary, climatic and political so we can look knowingly at each other. All of us will all have a good laugh together though and show off any new dresses and finery. 🙂

    I have also invited to the Arvo Tea the one no-one likes or talks to much, because I think I was once that girl, at school long ago. Maybe for different reasons but it is awful to feel excluded from a social group around you when invitations are obviously being passed out and I will not be party to that when it is my show.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘All unattached women see all other women as competition.
    All attached women see all other women as a threat.’

    Of course this is correct. Why is it even up for discussion?

    When you go out for a feed or whatever with your ladeeeee and you think she’s starting herself up for you, you’re kidding yourself.

    It is both a warning for other chicks to stay away, and to demonstrate their potential for taking other chicks’ blokes off them.

    It’s not a criticism. It’s in their nature.

  61. Ellie

    It is moi that is in control, MV. And comfort is not a consideration.

  62. Knuckle Dragger

    *tarting*

    Gawd.

  63. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Well, Peter, you will use the word ‘all’, which is stupid.

    I prefer “provocative” – and it certainly worked!
    Good morning Johanna – at least it still is here.

    To be honest, the original version had each line prefixed with “almost”.
    But I was feeling even naughtier today.
    Elle is a bad influence on me.

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Juan, the Q and A forum is where people take one for the team.

    I’ve done my share in the past and just occasionally read through now.

  65. johanna

    Greedy has dropped off the twig? Vale, indeed, a great contributor to joy.

    Peter and Knuckles, you must be habitually hanging around with awful women. Your choice.

  66. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Fair enough Mistress Elle.
    I’ve played both sides of the lash before.

    But could you please limit the welt marks to places normally covered by clothing?
    It’s just that I’m having dinner with the kids tonight, and they might be a bit hard to explain.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    An Aussie film-maker could make a wonderful fillum about Capt’n Cook – but somehow I doubt that funding from the usual suspects would be forthcoming.

    I do remember a mini series, starring Keith Michell, back in the mid eighties.

  68. Ellie

    lol
    You’re a good boy, MV.
    Now! Back to Friedmanarian Collectivism.

  69. calli

    Finally! The Cat debates quilting as art/craft.

    I knew it would happen if I hung around long enough. 🤣

    On fine workmanship, the Beloved took me to the baby alpaca shop here in Cusco. His wallet is now $1k lighter. But, oh, the textiley goodness.

  70. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    you must be habitually hanging around with awful women.

    Why? You think men are any different?
    Any less “on the hunt” when single, and any less possessive when attached?

    It’s fairly common.
    It’s called “human nature”.

  71. Juan

    I’m genuinely surprised the @realDonaldTrump is slapping punitive tariffs on the ‘Brazilian Donald Trump’.

    I’m not.

    An American Donald Trump puts America first, and a Brazilian Donald Trump puts Brazil primeiro.

    Assuming the see tariffs as beneficial to their countries then either one of them would implement tariffs to the benefit of their own people even at the expense of a kindred political spirit. To do otherwise would be putting political friends ahead of your own people.

    So what could Bolsonaro’s Brazil have done to done to avoid upsetting Trump?

    Accepting the strong dollar is hurting US farmers:

    ‘American corn isn’t impacted by U.S.-China trade tensions because the Asian nation doesn’t buy much of it. Still, U.S. corn exports are down 60% this marketing year mainly because the strong dollar is making it pricier for overseas buyers at a time when global competition is getting fiercer. Orange juice is another commodity caught in the currency cross-hairs.’

    The question is why does Trump not fire his Director of the National Economic Council, Larry Kudlow, whose central economic policy is the ‘King Dollar’ and who wrote last year before joining the Trump Administration:

    “A strong dollar is an essential pillar of economic prosperity with minimal inflation, but we worry that the White House has not adopted this strategy. So we urge the Trump administration to return to the successful “King Dollar” policies that worked in the 60’s, 80’s and 90’s.

    ‎Devaluations and weak currencies do not create U.S. jobs. Instead, weakened currencies are accompanied by relative price changes, leading to inflation in the devaluing country. (Americans can, by definition, buy less with weak dollars in their wallets than strong dollars.)”

    Well, Mr Kudlow, you can’t have it both ways!

  72. calli

    Poor Greedy, same age as me. And an NSBHS boy.

    If you leave me, can I come too?

  73. Juan

    I’m genuinely surprised the @realDonaldTrump is slapping punitive tariffs on the ‘Brazilian Donald Trump’.

    I’m not.

    An American Donald Trump puts America first, and a Brazilian Donald Trump puts Brazil primeiro.

    Assuming the see tariffs as beneficial to their countries then either one of them would implement tariffs to the benefit of their own people even at the expense of a kindred political spirit. To do otherwise would be putting political friends ahead of your own people.

    So what could Bolsonaro’s Brazil have done to done to avoid upsetting Trump?

    Accepting the strong dollar is hurting US farmers:

    ‘American corn isn’t impacted by U.S.-China trade tensions because the Asian nation doesn’t buy much of it. Still, U.S. corn exports are down 60% this marketing year mainly because the strong dollar is making it pricier for overseas buyers at a time when global competition is getting fiercer. Orange juice is another commodity caught in the currency cross-hairs.’

    The question is why does Trump not fire his Director of the National Economic Council, Larry Kudlow, whose central economic policy is the ‘King Dollar’ and who wrote last year before joining the Trump Administration:

    “A strong dollar is an essential pillar of economic prosperity with minimal inflation, but we worry that the White House has not adopted this strategy. So we urge the Trump administration to return to the successful “King Dollar” policies that worked in the 60’s, 80’s and 90’s.

    ‎Devaluations and weak currencies do not create U.S. jobs. Instead, weakened currencies are accompanied by relative price changes, leading to inflation in the devaluing country. (Americans can, by definition, buy less with weak dollars in their wallets than strong dollars.)”

    Well, Mr Kudlow, you can’t have it both ways!

  74. Juan

    Thanks Lizzie. Rookie error on my part. 😅

  75. Des Deskperson

    ‘Des, I have been following the Braidwood fire closely for a few days. Having been in Canberra in 2003, I know how these seemingly benign fires can turn into catastrophes. At one stage the fire came within 1km of Braidwood.’

    Johanna, I was driving back from the coast Sunday last and about 5 ks west of Braidwood, the wind changed to a southerly and the fire was coming straight at me. Naturally I, as they say, put my pedal to the metal. At the time, embers were falling on Braidwood.

    I was struck by the unpredictability of the winds, in terms of both speed and direction.

    As I may have posted before, Braidwood is one of the wokest communities in Australia, perhaps the wokest of all, in terms of wokeness per head of population. It’s full of retired academics, para-academics and public servants who pretend – or maybe actually believe – that they are genuine country people, that their spoilt and coddled perspective is the genuine rural Australian outlook and that they are therefore entitled to speak for country folk.

  76. calli

    I had alpaca for dinner tonight too. Like lamb really. I have a two word recommendation for Cats and lurkers:

    Visit Peru.

  77. Entropy

    MY has failed to observe that women check out other women far more than men check out women.

    I am not sure that is possible.

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sadly, I had to travel to Greece in 2016 to find a local council which knew how to handle them in an urban area.
    Monster trees ruthlessly necked at about 4 metres off the ground.
    One of youse drops a branch in da kiddies playground and youse is all gonna cop it.
    That’s the way to do it.

    Ellie, this is real discipline and bondage. Towards Eucalypts!

    Glad to see that robust Tomcats here do not like the pout lips style. I think they are hideous.
    Women should look very natural in their youth and as youthful as they can naturally look in their later years; but never with pout lips or rabbit cheeks or other stuff like that. One very good thing I have found, Kittehs may find interesting, is that something called ‘skin needling’ really does work. It’s fairly non-invasive, costs between $230 to $340 a treatment, and really improves any skin that is beginning to look a little ‘worn’ in places. It doesn’t hurt just feels a bit ‘scratchy’. I’ve had it done twice, as mother of the bride and then for our son’s wedding too, and that may be enough. The theory is that the skin is roughed up a bit with a micro-roller of tiny points, which stimulates collagen production over the next few weeks, disappearing fine lines. It works better if you have good well-cared for skin to start with. Three days after treatment, the top skin turns a little powdery, quite unnoticeable for going out, and you can rub it off with a special gel. I was skeptical at first about it, but surprised at the results. Laser apparently also does some good, on somewhat the same principles, but as it is a ‘burn’ I don’t like the idea of it./ beauty school off

  79. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    You’re a good boy, MV.

    True.
    But I make a great Master as well.

    Now! Back to Friedmanarian Collectivism.

    Friedman came straight out of uni, and straight onto the public purse as part of Theodore Roosevelt’s economics team tackling the Great Depression. He remained a taxpayer-funded public servant all his life, alternating between lecturer at university and bureaucrat jobs until he retired.

    He started promoting his version of “We Know What’s Best For You” in the early 1960’s, artfully presenting it as a version of libertarianism. Which it wasn’t.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have a two word recommendation for Cats and lurkers:
    Visit Peru.

    Noted. Thanks, Calli.

    Alpaca sounds nice! 🙂

  81. Mark A:

    I’m happy to be a middle aged bloke with a lovely wife, and may I say she has perky tits, this early?

    It’s lunchtime – TOFO.

  82. Top Ender

    Thanks for the rules Lizzie:

    Meantime, I have been planning some Ground Rules for our Yuletide get-together on Christmas Day. No Trump, no Brexit, no Oz politics, no bushfires, no climate matters at all. Safe topics are children (but nothing ecological like disposable nappy discussion), schools (fees and getting admission, but nothing to do with what is taught and how), wine and food (no vegan talk), work (how’s it going in general terms) and travel (no carbon offsets, and no Greta stuff).

    Xmas, in my definition, is when relatives get together and fight.

    We already have a male 17 year old coming to stay – definition of any such creature is it will be a sullen annoying child with a petulant lip. At least it might be permanently locked onto its phone.

  83. Rohan

    Juan, the company I work for does export to both the US, and we had attempted to export to Brasil but finally gave up.

    Brasil is a closed shop in terms of importaion of goods. Been there, done that. The regulatory bullshit involved and bribary to get anything in is horrendus.

    For instance, you have to obtain a signature from the Brasilian consulate on the commercial invoice for contaier quantity orders imported. Then you have to pay a whole swag of bribes and trumped up charges to get it cleared through customs. With every shipment there’s a new charge or requirement which held up delays.

    Getting payment out was also a massive hassle. Big time.

    Trump is simply repaying them in kind with tarrifs. If Brasil want’s them dropped then they have to play ball. After all, when we export the the US there are no tarrifs as we have a true FTA.

  84. Mater:

    His most famous achievement was the tour of the Golan Heights in which he collected intelligence on the Syrian fortifications there. He feigned sympathy for the soldiers exposed to the sun and had trees planted at every position, ostensibly placed to provide shade. The Israel Defense Forces used the trees as targeting markers during the Six-Day War, which enabled Israel to capture the Golan Heights in two days.

    That is so funny!
    I bet he didn’t have to buy a drink in the Spy vs Spy Bar ever after that.

  85. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I was struck by the unpredictability of the winds, in terms of both speed and direction.

    The fire chiefs today were warning that 6pm is going to be a dangerous time in the current Sydney ring of fires, as a southerly buster is due and will change the wind direction. There was an interesting graphic showing that a long fire advancing on a narrow front can turn into a wide fire over the whole of the traverse with a change of wind direction; hence the likely problems he warned about.

    International media is abuzz with Sydney in Conflagration tales. Nothing to see here, I feel like saying, but no comments allowed anywhere re this.

  86. Juan

    ‘Mercedes-Benz launches direct-to-buyer EQC sales model’
    It’s interesting Mercedes is adopting the Tesla (and Dell) direct sales model.

  87. Ellie:

    …they will all be totally hairless in certain key regions so as to make them look positively prepubescent….oh but that’s right…some men like that.

    It has nothing to do with looking prepubescent for men. It’s about personal choice and not wanting hair in certain places.

    I’m puzzled Ellie. I thought women dressed for other women?

  88. Oh come on

    Regarding the following article:

    American quilts hailed as miraculous works of modern art come to UK

    Some Cats may not be aware of the back story here.

    So way back when, the feminist movement was absolutely convinced that they would discover female Da Vincis, Mozarts etc. It was speculated that the evil Patriarchy had suppressed the magnificent works of these female greats, but they couldn’t be kept in hiding once people started looking for them. Some time passed, and no great works by suppressed female artists were unearthed. Then the femmos thought that many of the male greats were actually passing off the work of faceless female geniuses as their own, and this could be proven. Unfortunately, absolutely no evidence has been discovered that supports this hypothesis.

    So what did the feminists do? They lowered their standards. They held up a well-made quilt and insisted it had the same artistic merit as the Mona Lisa. They recorded some Andean female folk singing and demanded it be recognised as being of equal cultural merit as Beethoven’s 5th.

    And, as you can see from the article above, they’re *still* carrying on about the quilts.

  89. Knuckle Dragger

    Can’t link from where I am, but:

    The Daily Mail reports that a ‘healthy eating’ establishment called Leon is quite popular with XR Poms. So much so, that they descended en masse to the joint after a banner-waving gluefest on Westminster Bridge.

    All was hunky dory until the crushed pea salad sold out, then it was on like Donkey Kong.

    Punters were jumping counters attacking staff, and the rest of the crowd indicated their displeasure at the salad-free state of affairs by smearing not only their own shit on the place’s walls and doors, but stuck used tampons and pads on them as well.

    Stay classy, fuckheads.

  90. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mother Lode at 12.44

    Extreme LOL.

  91. Chris

    *tarting*

    Gawd.

    We knew what you meant
    we knew what you meant
    We heard what you said – but we knew what you meant!

    I have reached the conclusion that humans are hardwired for status competition, in two separate but interacting systems – male and female.
    Everything in the universe is a target for capture in female status competition.

  92. Juan

    Getting payment out was also a massive hassle. Big time.

    It’s a shame letters of credit have fallen out of favour. Can’t remember the last time I heard of one being used.

  93. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stay classy, fuckheads.

    Time for that restaurant to start serving Argentinian style:
    huge steaks with a very light garnish of vegies.

  94. Mother Lode

    So what could Bolsonaro’s Brazil have done to done to avoid upsetting Trump?

    Just being competitive I expect. Not everyone places identical value on the same thing as each other. There are likely things that Trump wants the Brazilians to do which, for whatever reason, they are reluctant to do. And vice versa. Perhaps the Brazilians subsidise some sector of the economy for domestic reasons which the Americans see as unfair according to their lights.

    So they will negotiate. Each surrendering something more valuable to the other than themselves and using that to demand things more valuable to themselves than the other.

    You can ask Trump for more details. I was just responding to your surprise that Trump might do something Bolsonaro doesn’t like. I just wanted to make the point that Trump is just putting Americans ahead of Brazilians.

  95. Johno

    Does Braidwood beat Bungendore for Wokicity or wokeulation?

  96. Oh come on

    Incidentally, those quilts are hideous.

  97. Mater

    I bet he didn’t have to buy a drink in the Spy vs Spy Bar ever after that.

    Unfortunately it didn’t end well for him, Winston.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Cohen

    His story is immortalised in the Netflix series called “The Spy”. Really worth a watch.

  98. Juan

    Time for that restaurant to start serving Argentinian style:
    huge steaks with a very light garnish of vegies.

    I find Argentinian steaks a little overdone for my liking — necessitating rather more Malbec to wash it down.

  99. Knuckle Dragger

    Potentially the most un-racist commentary going around, Old Yeller.

    If various trigger-happy squealy shriekers want to jump at shadows, bless their cotton socks for having a try.

  100. Mother Lode

    MY has failed to observe that women check out other women far more than men check out women.

    I am not sure that is possible.

    Sorry, Entropy.

    I started reading your observation…but a woman walked past my building and I was distracted. Could hardly see her – I am on the 15th floor.

  101. Ellie

    MV, Milton Friedman was a brilliant economist. His political philosophy – free market economic system with minimal intervention – is what conservatives and libertarians agree with – one of the few things we have in common IMO. The fact he was an advisor to two greats – Ronald
    Reagan and Margaret Thatcher is icing on the cake.

  102. Knuckle Dragger

    There was a line there about Leon from ‘The Professional’ and if it was his cafe called Leon full of shit-smeared hippies asking to be shot, but the moment’s passed.

    Timing, I guess.

  103. Ellie

    Winston at 1:01pm – can you please highlight which was Cassie’s comment and which was mine. We have different views and you appear to have lumped me in with a view I don’t agree with.

  104. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    but a woman walked past my building and I was distracted.

    Isn’t it a bummer when that happens?
    Even worse if the wife catches you at it.

  105. Ellie

    I’m puzzled Ellie. I thought women dressed for other women?

    They do? So, if I turn up at the next Cat catch up this Friday in leather pants and thigh length leather boots, I’m dressing for Lizzie, Tinta and Cassie? I don’t think so. We are individuals.

  106. Any less “on the hunt” when single, and any less possessive when attached?

    Spelling!

  107. Oh come on

    There is something seriously bizarre about the Conway marriage.

    George Conway is behaving like a child. Or possibly a cuckold.

  108. Des Deskperson

    ‘Does Braidwood beat Bungendore for Wokicity or wokeulation?’

    Unquestionably.

    Bungendore has been infected by wokeness, but its still a shoddy, lower-middlebrow half-hearted kind of wokeness.

    Braidwood is a magnificent, decades old edifice of genuine, smug, twee. protected and enshrined wokeness.

  109. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The fact he was an advisor to two greats – Ronald
    Reagan and Margaret Thatcher is icing on the cake.

    Would that be the same Maggie Thatcher who set up the Hadley Climate Research Centre with Phil Jones in charge, to create and promote her CO2 caused Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) fairy tale, and so gave us the whole world-wide global warming scam most recently epitomised by young Greta and the Extinction Rebellion?

    That Maggie Thatcher?

    Saints preserve us if she is your hero, Elle.

  110. Juan

    There are likely things that Trump wants the Brazilians to do which, for whatever reason, they are reluctant to do.

    Trump wants Brazil not to devalue its currency.

    Brazil doesn’t want to devalue its currency either; the devaluation is a consequence of the state of its economy and the parlous state of most of the rest of South America. I also know Argentina substantially tightened capital controls as a response the free-falling peso. I don’t follow Brazil quite as closely but I would expect they did something similar.

    It’s not like these countries are devaluing their currencies deliberately. Considering Argentina’s dollar-denominated foreign debt, why would they want to devalue their own currency?

    On the other hand, something which can be controlled, on Trump’s side, is whether he wants to maintain Kudlow’s ‘King Dollar’ policy which prizes a strong dollar even in the face of currency declines elsewhere.

    And yes, the ‘King Dollar’ does benefit US consumers; but it also hurts exporters.

    As I said, you can’t have it both ways!

  111. Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘Mercedes-Benz launches direct-to-buyer EQC sales model’

    Dead carmaker walking. That’s just a twitch from the remaining nerves.

    Germany crisis: Car blow as 50,000 jobs at risk in ‘biggest crisis since invention of car’ (2 Dec)

    Last week the owner of Mercedes-Benz announced plans to axe at least 10,000 employees globally, taking the number of jobs losses by German carmakers to almost 40,000 this year as the industry sinks under a massive sales slump.

    Why the crisis you might ask? Well…

    Daimler wants to save £1.2billion in staff costs as it prepares to invest billions in the electric cars boom. Audi, which is owned by Volkswagen, has also said it would be shedding almost 10,000 people – around around 10 percent of its global workforce.

    Volkswagen chief executive Herbert Diess warned “the auto industry is in the middle of a far-reaching upheaval”, and followed another announcement from VW in the spring, where it said 7,000 jobs would be axed with the savings to be pumped back into electric cars.

    GWGB. They’re betting on cars that are ridiculously expensive and unappealing. Who wants to spend hours waiting for one to charge? The battery dies after 8 years or so and is screechingly expensive to replace.

    It is estimated the German car industry, which directly employs more than 830,000 people and supports a further two million in the wider economy, will be forced to pump around £34billion into battery-powered technologies over the next three years.

    Strict EU carbon-emissions rules are also forcing carmakers to speed up production plans ahead of the electric vehicle boom or risk having to pay out billions in fines from the EU.

    Brussels wants between seven million and 10.5million battery-powered cars to be on Germany’s roads by the end of the next decade.

    When announcing plans last month to build a further four million battery-powered vehicles, Volkswagen boss Mr Diess insisted “electrification is not a gamble”, but warned “the conversion to e-mobility requires resources,” which must be financed from the company’s “traditional businesses”.

    Mr Kalmbach at Bain also said: “For the moment, you have to consider that with every electric vehicle, manufacturers are losing a tremendous amount of money.

    I suspect it already costs more to run an electric car than a petrol one because German electricity is the most expensive in the world. And the manufacturers are burning cash selling them because they can’t make them competitive in price to ICE cars. And anyway there will be rampant smuggling and import of Chinese and etc petrol cars even if the German govt enforces their crazy policies. The open borders the EU so loves will see to that. German car manufacturers are so screwed.

    And the weather is getting colder not hotter since the natural forcings they ignore have turned into cooling mode.

  112. Infidel Tiger

    Have you ever been to a seminar or training that a fat woman didn’t dominate with stupid questions and anecdotes?

  113. Ellie

    Margaret Thatcher was my kinda feminist, MV. Modern day feminists, such as Clementine Ford, are now paraded as “strong, independent women”. They pollute young women who can’t do anything beyond clicking ‘like’ on social media. MT shattered the glass ceiling, broke the trade unions, won elections. I try and focus on the positives.

  114. Mother Lode

    Well I don’t know what other conversations Trump has had with Bolsonaro that contextualises it all.

    I would note, though, that calling him a Brazilian Trump is just the press trying to market their version of events. They could be substantially at odds on any number of matters.

    But I don’t think taking the tariff’s action in isolation is likely to explain much.

  115. Boambee John

    Winston

    I bet he didn’t have to buy a drink in the Spy vs Spy Bar ever after that.

    If he is the bloke I think he was, he stayed on too long, was caught and publicly hanged in Damascus.

    The Syrians would not let him write a final letter to his wife in H€b r€w, so he wrote it in French, refusing to use Arabic.

  116. Areff:

    On the subject of fires, the ABC is reporting the story of a woman who took the burned remains nof her home to Canberra and dumped them outside parliament as a protest against Morrison’s climate policies (apparently giving a billion dollars to rent-seeking climate spivs doesn’t buy him any brownie points).

    I chased up details of our Melinda yesterday. Hadn’t gotten as far as you did, my google fu is nowhere near as powerful as yours obviously.
    Good on you though RF.

  117. Gilas

    Juan
    #3250737, posted on December 3, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    It’s a shame letters of credit have fallen out of favour. Can’t remember the last time I heard of one being used.

    Juan
    #3250743, posted on December 3, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I find Argentinian steaks a little overdone for my liking — necessitating rather more Malbec to wash it down.

    Confirmed!

    Juan is Grigs!

  118. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Germany crisis: Car blow as 50,000 jobs at risk in ‘biggest crisis since invention of car’

    Ah, the poor ol’ krauts. Spectacularly wrong about everything, yet again. What’s that colourful li’l term they have?

    Oh that’s right – Schadenfreude. Feeling it right now.

  119. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Brussels wants between seven million and 10.5million battery-powered cars to be on Germany’s roads by the end of the next decade.

    aren’t they the same dickheads who pushed diesel on us…what could possibly go wrong

  120. Boambee John

    Mater

    Sort of snap!

  121. What hope do new mercs have when I can’t even get a 1990 model to fscken start.

  122. Juan

    Germany crisis: Car blow as 50,000 jobs at risk in ‘biggest crisis since invention of car’ (2 Dec)

    I’m glad someone reads the Express. 😂

    The Telegraph is better, though. You get the facts without the hyperbolic headline; though I do love playing ‘Count the number of times the Express says someone or other has been ‘humiliated’ in headlines on their landing page in at the same time.’ My record is 7 times!

  123. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Margaret Thatcher was my kinda feminist

    Margret Thatcher personally invented the whole CO2 global warming scam solely to further her own domestic political desires. That scam has now corrupted science and teaching across the entire western world, and has already been responsible for the deaths of millions of people. And we’ve hardly scratched the surface compared to what is coming.

    Is that one of the positives you prefer to focus on, Elle?

  124. Infidel Tiger

    Bolsanaro has been cosying up to China.

    This is payback. Nothing to do with currency.

  125. Helen

    Winston

    Gorilla – horse racing and gambling terms for money gorilla = $1,000.00

  126. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Bolsanaro has been cosying up to China.

    While taking a break from setting fire to the Amazon.

  127. Juan

    Sadly, the present tally for the number of times Express headlines says someone was ‘humiliated’ is a lowly 1.

    For anyone wishing to fact-check: https://www.express.co.uk/

    Poor form, Express. Poor form.

  128. Juan

    Bolsanaro has been cosying up to China.

    This is payback. Nothing to do with currency.

    BRICS wouldn’t be BRICS without the ‘B’ and the ‘C’.

  129. classical_hero

    It’s almost 11am and it’s nearly 37. Good thing I’m on the west coast.

  130. Diogenes

    . It was speculated that the evil Patriarchy had suppressed the magnificent works of these female greats, but they couldn’t be kept in hiding once people started looking for them. Some time passed, and no great works by suppressed female artists were unearthed.

    A lot of Mrs Mendel’s little boy Felix’s works are said to be actually his sister Fanny’s. I have no idea how strong the evidence is, but there is some form of AI involved & a couple of Piled Higher & Deeper thesis’s in the works.

  131. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Good thing I’m on the west coast.

    Then you’re in no danger of frosts tonight – the Esperance Doctor will see to that.

  132. dover_beach

    Grigs managed to stay in character for what, 2 weeks, but he’s now let the mask slip. The block quotation and link was a nice diversion.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m glad someone reads the Express.

    The Express is a lot of fun.
    You want to understand a culture then read what the ordinary people read.
    Here in the bogan backblocks of Ncl you will see the Tele out the front of people’s yards of a morning.
    Fewer and fewer Newcastle Heralds, which is produced by Fauxfax.
    It’s excellent to see evolution in action.

  134. Helen

    Have any of you ever brined a turkey? I don’t cook it as a rule because breast is dry before the legs are cooked, but Nigella swears by this – I am tempted to try it. Works well with Cornish hens too, in the comments.

    Normally I just do duck, yum! Not long now, to rain or Christmas. Or both!

  135. Tailgunner

    Everything in the universe is a target for capture in female status competition.

    Word, Chris.
    Don’t hate the playa, hate the Game.

  136. Bruce of Newcastle

    And regarding evolution the German carmakers are right under the asteroid called green-prog insanity. There’s no escape kids.

    Unless someone find a way to overturn physics, chemistry and economics, or overturn the woke EU, they are companies in the process of extinction.

    Meek German carmakers won’t inherit the Earth, Chinese realist carmakers will.

  137. Snoopy

    There is something seriously bizarre about the Conway marriage.

    Help me here. Which one is the real George.

    This one? Or this one?

  138. Tailgunner

    Grigs managed to stay in character for what, 2 weeks, but he’s now let the mask slip.

    Fk! Wait til Rae finds out!

  139. Juan

    It’s excellent to see evolution in action.

    Also pleasing to know you’re not hostile to evolution, unlike one of Australia’s noteworthy exports. 😉

  140. Tailgunner

    Arky, put the Pffaf down and get in here and tell us about locking down chicks,pronto!

  141. Shy Ted

    From chapter 2 of Pirate Pete’ latest tome, James Cook, The Story Behind the Man who Mapped the World.
    After a couple of good night’ sleep on quite the most comfortable beds we had ever slept in the ship’ officers began a tenuous dialogue with the natives, no easy task. Lt Carpenter, funnily enough an actual carpenter was bemoaning the difficulty of making repairs to the ship when the damage was below the waterline. The native laughed and said we were using old technology. He had a cousin “across the land” in the “Pilbara” where the streets were lined with iron ore and there was a metal shipbuilding industry in a place called Meekatharra and though it was a little way from the sea the location had solved the problem of the iron rusting before paint was applied. And being inland they could use the abundant solar power for the welding. Ships made from metal, welding, paint – so much to take in! Sadly, when intellectual property law had been explained to us, it would be many years before the patents expired and metal ships would become commonplace.
    In due course the natives would introduce us to their food and water sources. Pesticides had been devastating, the toxins sprayed on crops producing any manner of birth defects and thus abandoned. The afflicted children were reared until they could fend for themselves and then sent to Tasmania where they were among their own kind. It had meant farming came to a near end in favour of hunting and gathering but this kept people healthier and also solved the problem of what to do with the food packaging. Some crops still grew – potatoes, wheat and tobacco for gin, beer and cigarettes respectively but they were organic and caused no health problems.
    Water was not drawn from rivers as we had expected as the natives recognized the importance of environmental flows but from deep wells with bores powered by the wind via an ingenious pump. Storage was a problem and when the wind was light and supplies of water sparse the native merely uttered a resigned “damn”. When the wind was roaring the water poured out and the natives had what they called a “shower” – they stood under a stream of water and cleaned themselves. We considered the naked females somewhat immodest so we gave them T shirts which they wore in the “shower” and this proved very popular with men black and white alike.
    Sydney summers and winters are polar opposites, the former hot and breezy, the latter cold and blowy though with many nice days. When the rain falls it can be torrential and the men urge the women to don their T shirts to protect themselves from it. The natives have an interesting building concept to protect themselves from the elements. These elementary buildings, variously called houses, homes or humpies all have native grasses cultivated – on the east a good supply where kangaroos are encouraged to graze and they provide a partial windbreak from the easterly breezes in summer. To the west of the house is grass double the thickness and quantity of the east where twice as many marsupials graze and this provides double the windbreak from the cold westerlies of winter. The native term is “double grazing”.

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    Juan – The principle “righteousness by faith alone” requires that neither evolution nor creation can be proved. Think about it. All those people who try to play around with Genesis and evolution are just displaying their lack of understanding of the supreme capability of God the Father. God is not a slightly larger than life human like Zeus, he is the God of the laws of thermodynamics, spacetime and reality. Try considering what would be required to achieve Jesus’ miracles from a scientific point of view. As a scientist I know just how awesome they are.

  143. Infidel Tiger

    40deg day. Woman brings thermos of soup to seminar.

  144. Juan

    And regarding evolution the German carmakers are right under the asteroid called green-prog insanity.

    A would have agreed with you; until Porsche released its Taycan. It shows the Germans, when they set their minds to it, can quickly catch up to and even surpass competitors. Particularly the Porsche’s system voltage of 800 volts instead of the usual 400 volts used by those suddenly old fashioned Teslas. Elon Musk must have been kicking himself (maybe that’s why he’s been throwing solid objects at the windows of the Cybertruck?)

    Whatever ones views on the climate, this is technology worth applauding.

  145. Snoopy

    Infidel Tiger
    #3250805, posted on December 3, 2019 at 2:24 pm
    40deg day. Woman brings thermos of soup to seminar

    Could she be of Spanish descent?

  146. classical_hero

    It’s the Freemantle doctor. I doubt on a day like today we will get one.

  147. Tailgunner

    Have you ever been to a seminar or training that a fat woman didn’t dominate with stupid questions and anecdotes?

    Not just in ugly,small, windowless rooms either,Tiges.
    I’ve been taking note for the past few workdays in the Yarragrad CBD,trams,TigerTown and honestly, 60-70% of the chicks in my AoOp are fatties. Size 14+. Let alone the older&younger crew.
    It’s best to keep blue pilling and looking at Google search results for “hot Aussie chick”.

  148. Ellie:
    It’s an issue here with the formatting. I will put it another way:
    Someone not Ellie:

    “…they will all be totally hairless in certain key regions so as to make them look positively prepubescent….oh but that’s right…some men like that.”

    Ellie:

    It has nothing to do with looking prepubescent for men. It’s about personal choice and not wanting hair in certain places.

    Does that sort it out? No harm was intended by my statement.

  149. Juan

    All those people who try to play around with Genesis and evolution are just displaying their lack of understanding of the supreme capability of God the Father.

    So what’s your view of Ken Ham … quixotically misguided?

  150. Tailgunner

    It’s Marxism’19 time in Yarragrad.
    They’ve left the perfect blank space on the posters for my patented “Death to” tags.
    Always be concealed carrying a decent black marker,Cats.

  151. zyconoclast

    Rainbow Laces – Come Out Active for LGBT equality in sport

    .

    Football has the power to bring us together.

    Clubs and communities are stronger when everyone feels welcome, and it’s down to all of us to make that happen.

    That’s why we, the Premier League, proudly stand alongside Stonewall in promoting equality and diversity.

    Our clubs will come together between 3-9 December to celebrate Stonewall’s 2019/20 Rainbow Laces campaign and show support for all LGBT people in football and beyond.

    At all Premier League fixtures across the two Matchweeks, there will be bespoke Rainbow Laces pitch flags, ball plinths, handshake boards and substitutes boards. There will also be rainbow captain’s armbands and rainbow laces.

    LED boards at the stadiums will highlight the campaign and our social media channels will feature a rainbow Premier League logo and will promote the campaign.

    Clubs will showcase the wide-ranging work they do to support and celebrate their LGBT communities, showing there is no place for discrimination and demonstrating the power football has to bring people together.

    Indeed, we ask that all fans support LGBT people in football and beyond by making them feel welcome.

    Show your support. Because when we all play our part, we make football everyone’s game.

  152. Tailgunner

    I actually dated a bird for a time who refused to wax it all off, EmilyR-style.
    It was the reason I bailed on her.
    Although after that it would have been her refusal to get bolt ons.
    She was a bit lacking in that department too…
    And she collected CornishWare.
    Put that blue striped milk jug down and get over here. No, crawl!
    She loved that stuff.

  153. Tailgunner

    IT, put the handouts down and get back in here, ffs,
    #TrainingDay
    😅😅😅

  154. Delta A

    Have any of you ever brined a turkey?

    Helen, I marinate in brine all turkeys and chickens prior to roasting them*. Just use salt and dark brown sugar in water – can’t give the exact ratio because I do it by taste. Leave to soak for about I hour per kilo. The result is excellent, well worth the effort.

    * Don’t use this method if the poultry is sold pre-marinated, seasoned or treated with other substances.

  155. Helen:

    Gorilla – horse racing and gambling terms for money gorilla = $1,000.00

    Thanks for that – and the link.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    A would have agreed with you; until Porsche released its Taycan.

    Juan – Ah but that is a different business model entirely. I have always said that Tesla makes sense as a premium marque, like Lotus and etc. It makes no sense as a mass market model. Mass-market Mercs make no sense either. Trying to build a mass market EV is a stupid idea because the science and engineering don’t fit. That is why the Chinese will take the German mass-market EV carmakers to the wall, because you simply cannot get the range required from the energy density available in a battery, which will always cost vastly more than a $10 cast-plastic petrol tank which has 20 times the energy capacity of a battery of the same volume. Chemistry and physics are not open to negotiation.

  157. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    It’s the Freemantle doctor.

    Yes, that’s the one. Fremantle Doctor in Perth and surrounds, Esperance Doctor throughout most of the southern half of the state, all the way up to Kalgoorlie and beyond. Inland from Perth the wind comes more from the south, hence the name.

    In Kalgoorlie as a kid, long before the widespread use of fans, let alone air conditioners, I would be sent to bed at 8.30 in sweltering heat. So hot it was impossible to sleep. Then, between 11.00 and midnight, you would hear it coming, like a freight train. The Esperance Doctor.

    When it hit it would drop the temp so far, so quickly, you’d be huddling under three or four blankets within ten minutes, your sweat still drying on your skin.

  158. Tailgunner

    I’m on a CFMEU-mandated pub break til knockoff at 4.
    Knuckles,what’s the secret to “always winnin’big” at Keno, Noleezy-style?
    Have you seen their Joe Biden-like Keno mascot? Haha, I just saw it today. Grabbing all the chicks and giving one wanker a wet Willie…
    I only remember the hot dancing blonde mascot. I loved watching her winning.
    Good times

  159. Overburdened

    https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/list-ranks-two-aussie-towns-as-among-the-worlds-most-dangerous/news-story/0900ff320e9cb6cb48bee246d402385e

    Clearly the survey did not include some of the places I have worked in Australia.

    There are several criteria I have identified over time that makes for a dangerous place.

    Some are logistical.

    Some I can’t discuss because it would be impolite.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    So what’s your view of Ken Ham … quixotically misguided?

    Pass. I don’t know of him and I’m not therefore in a position to consider what he believes when I only have a wiki to go on.

    Juan – My intention is to work from first principles and primary data where I can, which as a science guy I have the training and education for. I use the same approach with discussions of Christian things, where the bible is the textbook not Perry.

    (If you now what Perry is you will know what I’m talking about. 😀 )

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From chapter 2 of Pirate Pete’ latest tome, James Cook, The Story Behind the Man who Mapped the World.

    Brilliant!!!

  162. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ‘double grazing’, Shy Ted. lol. Perhaps the Japanese had been there first.
    Love anything historic about Capt’n Cook and his Band of Merry Men.
    Did Cook notice any crop circles while he was there? 🙂

  163. jo

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3250779, posted on December 3, 2019 at 1:52 pm

    Margaret Thatcher was my kinda feminist

    Margret Thatcher personally invented the whole CO2 global warming scam solely to further her own domestic political desires. That scam has now corrupted science and teaching across the entire western world, and has already been responsible for the deaths of millions of people. And we’ve hardly scratched the surface compared to what is coming.

    Is that one of the positives you prefer to focus on, Elle?

    She also changed her mind.

    But, her autobiography states: “By the end of my time as Prime Minister I was also becoming seriously concerned about the anti-capitalist arguments which the campaigners against global warming were deploying.

    “So in a speech to scientists in 1990 I observed: whatever international action we agree upon to deal with environmental problems, we must enable all our economies to grow and develop because without growth you cannot generate the wealth required to pay for the protection of the environment.”

    The Iron Lady’s complete and dramatic U-turn meant that her free market admirers could reclaim her legacy and erase from history her arguments that economic growth must be environmentally sustainable while the public seemed to have mostly forgotten that one of the earliest champions of legally binding international agreements was, in fact, a staunch Conservative and economic Liberal.

  164. Zyconoclast:

    Six more countries join Trump-busting Iran barter group
    Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway and Sweden sign up to Instex mechanism that sidesteps US sanctions

    Fair enough, they can vote to be anti US and Pro Iran.
    Hope they’ve got a plan to fill the hole in NATO when the US leaves.

  165. Helen

    Thanks Delta A yours looks quickerband simpler than Nigellas.

  166. Helen

    Thanks Delta A yours looks quicker and simpler than Nigellas.

  167. jo

    Tailgunner
    #3250821, posted on December 3, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    I actually dated a bird for a time who refused to wax it all off, EmilyR-style.
    It was the reason I bailed on her.
    Although after that it would have been her refusal to get bolt ons.
    She was a bit lacking in that department too…
    And she collected CornishWare.
    Put that blue striped milk jug down and get over here. No, crawl!
    She loved that stuff.

    Did she bark as well?

  168. Tailgunner

    OB, if you’re not scrolling back, I posted on the cool surfn link you put up.
    Liked

  169. Mother Lode

    Football has the power to bring us together.

    Generally because it is about fun and football, that is all. It is not about politics, not about mandating beliefs, not about telling half its fans they are not wanted or that they consider they are retarded.

    The logic they seem to have is:

    1) People like football.
    2) We want to push woke crap but ordinary people are sick to death of it.
    3) Therefore we will change football into woke stuff but will keep calling it football, and those poor dull-witted rubes will fall for it.
    4) WTF just happened?

    As the goth RA woman who looks like a gothic grotesque.

  170. Tailgunner

    As the goth RA woman who looks like a gothic grotesque.

    It’s like they don’t even have to hide anymore?
    #pizzagate

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s about personal choice and not wanting hair in certain places.

    I prefer the manicured style. For both ladies and gentlemen. Otherwise, too bald and clinical.
    Plus shaving creates prickles when it grows back, and waxing can create ingrowing hairs.
    Both unpleasant, can be painful. And not all that hygienic because of minor nicks etc.
    Even some shearing of Hairy’s upper torso which he demands in summer creates a prickly hug.
    Much better when it grows out a bit. A neat but furry winter chest to bury your head in.

    But hair today, gone tomorrow. Whatever.

  172. Tailgunner

    Italian bread w/toppings and outdoor doors still verboten I see….

  173. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    She also changed her mind.

    How nice of her.
    Having created and implemented the means by which millions have already died, and tens, if not hundreds of millions of others are going to die, she changed her mind. Truly splendiferous.

    Here is Margaret Thatcher’s true legacy.
    Watch it and weep.

  174. Geriatric Mayfly

    Thanks Delta A yours looks quicker and simpler than Nigellas.

    Don’t forget to dry thoroughly. Blowies permitting I hang mine overnight. Then, in the tradition of the Two Fat Ladies, smother the bird in butter, and baste about every 10 -15 minutes. I start with the back up, turn the cadaver half way through to breast up. Strips of bacon optional.

  175. Juan

    I use the same approach with discussions of Christian things, where the bible is the textbook not Perry.

    (If you now what Perry is you will know what I’m talking about. 😀 )

    The Perry Bible Fellowship?

    To your broader point, how do you feel about bible commentaries shaping (or misshaping) so many people’s understanding of the Word of God?

  176. Tailgunner

    Even some shearing of Hairy’s upper torso which he demands in summer creates a prickly hug.

    Hairy, get in here and prove you aren’t a cyclist!
    Disappointing

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    Perry. Sits next to my desk.

  178. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Did she bark as well?

    lol, Jo. Hat tip to Arky there, no doubt, who recommends an active love life. 🙂

    Seals bark too. It’s not just hounds, so we can enlarge the imagery.

  179. Overburdened

    Onya TG

    Only a surfer can know eh.

    Hope all good in your camp.

  180. Bruce of Newcastle

    To your broader point, how do you feel about bible commentaries shaping (or misshaping) so many people’s understanding of the Word of God?

    This.

    11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. 12 As a result, many of them believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.

    Acts 17:11-12.

  181. Juan

    Here is Margaret Thatcher’s true legacy.
    Watch it and weep.

    I feel like for some people watching that would be like a confirmed Communist witnessing this:

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tailgunner, he keeps his deliciously hairy legs so no worries.
    Love those hirsute thighs. Very manly, imho.

  183. 1735099

    Meek German carmakers won’t inherit the Earth, Chinese realist carmakers will.

    Probably.
    China manufactured and sold about 1.2 million electric vehicles in 2018, more than three times the sales in the US.
    China has the fastest and largest growing market for electric vehicles in the world. Electric cars (EV) had a market share of 4.2% of new cars sold in China for 2018. Shenzhen and Beijing are rapidly adopting electric vehicles. All of Shenzhen’s 16,000 public buses are electric, and soon all of its 22,000 taxis will be electric cars as well.

    Their products are currently for local consumption, but when they start exporting, the market will know all about it.

  184. Ellie

    Lizzie – if that is happening then people are either doing it wrong or not maintaining things. If maintained nothing should grow back and no ingrown hairs – ever!

    As to a hairy chest – very noice – very noice indeed.

  185. Bruce of Newcastle

    To your broader point, how do you feel about bible commentaries shaping (or misshaping) so many people’s understanding of the Word of God?

    This.

    11 Now the Berean J-ws were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. 12 As a result, many of them believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.

    Acts 17:11-12. Read them like a Berean. A concordance like Strong’s is good too, since there are issues in rendering meaning between languages, eg Greek to English. If you look at the word by word comparison you can get the meaning of the original text pretty well. NIV uses a concept called ‘dynamic equivalents’ whereas KJV and NKJV do a one-to-one translation, which can be confusing sometimes because of how the languages operate.

  186. jo

    Lizzie, seals aren’t mans best friend.

  187. classical_hero

    Looks like I’m wrong. The doctor is in. According to the app, which is centred on where I live, the temperature is only 29. Yet at the airport it’s 40.5. Being not too fare from the coast has its advantages.

  188. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I might add that all the kids in that clip are, or are studying to be, “climate scientists”.
    These degree level and higher university “studies” require nothing as mundane as physics, chemistry, biology, or maths. No, the courses feature much more important subjects such as “Ecological Diversity”, “First Nations Influence on Climate”, and “Eco-Feminism”.

    Tomorrow’s scientific “leaders”. All thanks to Maggie Thatcher.
    But she eventually changed her mind. So that makes it all alright.

  189. Juan

    Meek German carmakers won’t inherit the Earth, Chinese realist carmakers will.

    Probably.
    China manufactured and sold about 1.2 million electric vehicles in 2018, more than three times the sales in the US.

    Just convince the Chinese the Porsche Taycan and similar are the Louis Vuitton or Hermès of automobiles and the German can industry will be set.

    Of course, as with the French luxury brands, there will be rip offs, such as this 300C in Tangiers.

  190. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    not maintaining things

    Too much like hard work, Ellie. And as I said, I don’t favour the look anyway.

    You know, the way this site hops around on topics, I scroll upthread and interspersed I find:

    Thanks Delta A yours looks quicker and simpler than Nigellas.

    Luckily, I know that they are talking about how to brine a turkey for Christmas, but one could be forgiven for thinking …..

    On which note, I must depart for the arvo. I will come back though for the turkey recipe.
    I’ve never heard of brining a bird. Shows what I don’t know.
    Bung it in the oven with butter, and keep basting, that’s been my style.
    Defrost it first. I did learn that on one occasion. Now we buy the super-fresh sort.

  191. Top Ender

    The native laughed and said we were using old technology. He had a cousin “across the land” in the “Pilbara” where the streets were lined with iron ore

    Brilliant ST!

  192. Juan

    Read them like a Berean. A concordance like Strong’s is good too, since there are issues in rendering meaning between languages, eg Greek to English. If you look at the word by word comparison you can get the meaning of the original text pretty well. NIV uses a concept called ‘dynamic equivalents’ whereas KJV and NKJV do a one-to-one translation, which can be confusing sometimes because of how the languages operate.

    The problem, which I’m sure you’re seen as well. is there are verse-by-verse commentaries which flatly contradict the literal verse they’re supposedly illuminating.

    Putting that issue to one side, and again I have a feeling you’ve seen this too, way too many people read the Bible and without understanding the text immediately go to a bible study leader or one of the commentaries and take what they say as, excuse the pun, gospel.

  193. Cactus

    I have done a few whole chickens on the BBQ. I had read a lot about brining, but then I found the chickens I buy at Woolies have been pre brined – so I dont bother – check on the pack. If ingredients have water and salt then it has been pre brined.

    I also find it worth lifting the skin off the breast with your fingers. You sorta squeeze your fingers between skin and breast. It should give and you have a marvelous cavity. Into that I put slices of butter. As it cooks the butter just keeps it all a bit more moist.

    Lastly on stuffing. I leave a small hole in the cavity. Ie. I dont fill the cavity up 100% with stuffing but more like 80%. I think that will allow heat to move around the inside of the bird and cook the whole thing more evenly. If the heat cant get to the centre of the bird then you have to wait an eternity for the centre to cook to 165deg F. That means the edges are dried out.

  194. Bruce of Newcastle

    China manufactured and sold about 1.2 million electric vehicles in 2018, more than three times the sales in the US.

    Numbers – That is because of Chinese government laws to do with pollution in cities.
    Recently the EV market in China collapsed.

    PricewaterhouseCoopers report: Global Sales Of Electric Cars ‘Collapsed’ – Drop -15.7% In China (3 Nov)

    Huge sales drop in China

    T-Online reports that the world’s largest market for electric cars, China, “collapsed drastically between July and September 2019.” Adding: ” Sales of electric cars fell by 15.7 percent, of hybrid cars by 20 percent and of plug-in hybrids by as much as 27.3 percent.”

    EVs suck, but are better than nothing if you are a Chinese guy wanting to impress a lady. But Chinese people are acute when it comes to prices, so when the Chinese government cut subsidies the market made like Wile E Coyote over a cliff.

    Only the dead hand of government can keep EVs in the game, like Trabants.

    China slashes electric car subsidies (13 Nov)

    The China Association of Automobile Manufacturers said Monday that the sales of electric, hybrid and fuel cell cars plunged by over 45% in October, marking four straight months of declines in the sector.

    “Because of the insufficient demand of the domestic market, the pressure for automakers to upgrade their technology to the national standard, and the major subsidy cuts for new energy vehicles, the recovery of production and sales is still limited,” said Chen Shihua, assistant secretary general of the group.

    “Based on the current developing trend, we may see negative growth for new energy vehicles this year.”

  195. Delta A

    but one could be forgiven for thinking …..

    No, one could not.

  196. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    On cooking: the girls are bringing some savory nibbles for my arvo tea, as I they know I don’t cook.
    Some of them do, and they like to show off what skills they have in making wonderful filo things.
    On my part, the local bakery can supply a goodly amount of impressive display cakes and petit fours.
    Hairy has got in some French Champagne and Italian bubbly. All good. Give it ’em first, I always say.
    After that, no-one cares about the bought cake. Calli’s sanger tips will come in handy though.
    Don’t use ordinary white Tip Top sliced bread, get the bakers slice up a good square white loaf.

  197. Cactus

    Also on cooking chickens and turkeys. Always put a water pan in the oven. I think it helps keep the air more humid than otherwise and prevents at the margin water coming out of the bird.

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No, one could not.

    Only for half a second, Delta, I assure you. Knew it couldn’t be you.
    And certainly no gentleman would ever make such a gross error in manners.
    I am foxes paws all over the place, known for it. 🙂

  199. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Time for my mandated mid-afternoon “nap”.
    The Nazi guard – aka 16yo granddaughter – will be over for a cell check in the next ten minutes.
    God I hate school holidays.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Time for my mandated mid-afternoon “nap”.

    Dunno. When we were borrowing customs from other cultures, to make up the multicultural society, where’s the goose who passed up the siesta?

  201. Juan

    aka 16yo granddaughter

    This is a very personal question, so please don’t feel obliged to answer it, but I’m curious: does your granddaughter share your religious beliefs; or a more liberal version of Christianity; or even none at all?

    In any case, enjoy your nap! 😊

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie, seals aren’t mans best friend.

    True. But when it comes to romance, neither are dogs.

    Hillary in that link above does a fairly good yap though.
    Is this where Arky got the idea? Surely not?
    There must have been some girl for him, sometime, who barked.
    Interesting.

  203. Juan

    Oh, my apologies – I thought Peter’s comment was Bruce’s.

    My bad! Please ignore.

  204. Old School Conservative

    Would that be the same Maggie Thatcher who set up the Hadley Climate Research Centre with Phil Jones in charge, to create and promote her CO2 caused Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) fairy tale, and so gave us the whole world-wide global warming scam most recently epitomised by young Greta and the Extinction Rebellion?

    True Peter, but don’t forget she was also one of the first and most prominent of “climate sceptics”. She recanated her earlier views and questioned the main scientific assumptions used to drive the scare. (The Global Warming Policy Forum).
    Credit where credit is due.

  205. Snoopy

    Is this where Arky got the idea? Surely not?
    There must have been some girl for him, sometime, who barked.
    Interesting

    Maybe Arky blew a seal in his beloved Mk1 Cortina?

  206. Pickles

    Any cats going to the IPA screening of the Jordan Petersen movie thi arvo?

  207. feelthebern

    Have you ever been to a seminar or training that a fat woman didn’t dominate with stupid questions and anecdotes?

    Bet she has a horrible hair cut, or a horrible colour through it or both.

  208. cohenite

    Whatever ones views on the climate, this is technology worth applauding.

    At this stage of our technological development humans can’t have a view on the climate; it just it.

    And EV technology is just bullshit.

  209. classical_hero

    When I was younger I thought that a carbon tax would be a good idea. Thankfully I thought it through and saw the folly of it.

  210. Top Ender

    Read this testimony of incompetence.

    Police ‘absent’ as killer roamed
    A senior policeman believed officers were zeroing in on the Bourke Street killer using his phone location, hours before his murder spree, but no police attended for more than an hour.

    An inquest into the January 20, 2017, tragedy has heard that after stabbing his brother, hours before mowing pedestrians down in the CBD, James Gargasoulas’s phone pinged in three locations in the early hours.

    Acting Inspector Adrian Filzek said he believed police units were being sent to the locations to try to arrest him, but when questioned on Monday about no one responding to the pings for more than an hour, Inspector Filzek said “at the time I thought there was a response”.

    After the first successful ping in a St Kilda street, former police sergeant Frank Caridi sought the help of the specially trained critical incident response team to box the offender in so he could be arrested, but it was refused as it didn’t meet their criteria.

    Mr Caridi, in charge of the overall response, then returned to the office to do paperwork as Gargasoulas remained at large.

    His superior, Inspector Filzek, said he had confidence the sergeant was co-ordinating local police units to find the offender.

    “There’s no reason to believe he wasn’t doing a good resolution strategy,” Inspector Filzek said.

    He agreed under cross-examination by counsel assisting, Stephen O’Meara, that police units were available, but “felt Sergeant Caridi was deploying them as necessary”. “If Sergeant Caridi’s not sending them, he’s not competent, is he?” Mr O’Meara asked. “I can’t really comment on his overall competence based on one thing he did or didn’t do,” Inspector Filzek said.

    “I felt Sergeant Caridi was doing the best he possibly could at the time, and so was I.”

    He didn’t feel the need to ask Sergeant Caridi about units being sent. However, Mr O’Meara asked: “If none of that happened because of people beneath you, you didn’t detect it either, did you?” “No,” Inspector Filzek replied.

    He believed “several plans” were in place to arrest Gargasoulas, including tracking him by phone. Inspector Filzek said part of his job was to direct people if things didn’t appear to be getting done, but “not micromanage them”.

    He also said he understood the critical incident response team was going to be available and he requested it monitor the incident. The team shot Gargasoulas in the CBD after he killed six people.

    Gargasoulas, who suffers paranoid schizophrenia, was jailed in February for at least 46 years.

    AAP Oz print edition

  211. JC

    cohenite
    #3250933, posted on December 3, 2019 at 4:22 pm

    Whatever ones views on the climate, this is technology worth applauding.

    At this stage of our technological development humans can’t have a view on the climate; it just it.

    Nuclear could toss gerbiling off Q&A and back in research labs. 4th gen is exceptionally brilliant.

  212. cohenite

    4th gen is exceptionally brilliant.

    5th and 6th even more so. I’m 7th generation, related to Capt Cook on my mother’s side through a 3rd cousin’s great, great grandfather.

  213. Tailgunner

    Love those hirsute thighs. Very manly, imho.
    Feminine chicks do.
    🙂
    Yin/yang

  214. Tailgunner

    4GW?
    Like it.
    There’s a 7th generation now?

  215. JC

    No one likes flamboyant homosexuals, Cronkite. Ponder that and think about changing your behaviour at the Cat.

  216. Ellie

    JC – oh puuleeeze! Peter Alan was a Libertarian. Loosen up.

  217. Old School Conservative

    What great Australian resourcefulness!
    After drinking groundwater and surviving for over a week on a packet of Scotch Finger biscuits, some beef noodles and a ten-pack of premixed vodka, Ms Hockridge and Mr Tran had left to walk the roughly 25km to the Stuart Highway to get help.

  218. C.L.

    Not sure is this has been posted – bu here it is again anyway …
    A Leak classic.

  219. jo

    Bet she has a horrible hair cut, or a horrible colour through it or both.

    That is so you don’t notice she is a land whale.

  220. cohenite

    No one likes flamboyant homosexuals, Cronkite. Ponder that and think about changing your behaviour at the Cat.

    You’re just jealous head prefect because you’ve never won the arseless chaps on the Q&A thread. I have. I’m wearing them now; they give me more wriggle room.

  221. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘so you don’t notice she is a land whale.’

    Indeed, jo. You hardly ever see a really tasty bit of kit with pink or green mohawks.

    It’s almost always a vain attempt to draw the eye away from the vast, slightly mobile cellulite bank underneath the multicolored melon.

    And, naturally, the inevitable enormous front of thigh tattoos (fatoos) heaving below the massive gunt.

  222. Arky

    Arky, put the Pffaf down and get in here and tell us about locking down chicks,pronto!

    ..
    Afraid not.
    I’m having a crisis.
    I just whipped up a pair of curtains for the bathroom and am now sitting on the couch playing with my boobs.

  223. JC

    Anyone buy any funnell dollars today?

  224. Tailgunner

    When I was younger I thought that a carbon tax would be a good idea.

    Jaques, put classical in permanent moderation please.
    Fksake,xunt

  225. Tailgunner

    I just whipped up a pair of curtains for the bathroom and am now sitting on the couch playing with my boobs.
    Fkn, here E iz

  226. Arky

    Sigh.
    Snap out of it man.
    OK.
    I’m going out to bleed the brakes on the car.

  227. Tailgunner

    After drinking groundwater and surviving for over a week on a packet of Scotch Finger biscuits, some beef noodles and a ten-pack of premixed vodka, Ms Hockridge and Mr Tran had left to walk the roughly 25km to the Stuart Highway to get help.


    Hehe, I saw this. Bitch didn’t look like she’s been ‘lost our bush fa 12 days,mate’ to me.
    The other chick was her Les partner, and some weird, thirsty looking Indo-Asian dude.
    It’s a lesbian vampyre chronicle,fo shizzle.

  228. lotocoti

    Ease up Gunner, it was a typo.
    He meant cabrón tax.

  229. Tailgunner

    bleed the brakes on the car.

    You need the sweet four pot Brembos on the front,mate.
    Shoot you through the windscreen at 13 knots.

  230. Tailgunner

    a ten-pack of premixed vodka, Ms Hockridge Survival: ‘straya

  231. Tailgunner

    That Stuart Hwy chick is a meth head, fo’show.
    She’s straight from Breaking Bad casting offs

  232. cohenite

    Water, water everywhere and not a drop for Australians:

    Canada’s PSP snaps up Olam water rights for $490m
    Ben Wilmot The Australian December 3, 2019
    Canada’s Public Sector Pension Investment Board has locked in its position as one of country’s most powerful water barons by snapping up water rights held by Singapore-listed agri-business company Olam International for $490m. The deal covers 89,085 megalitres of permanent water rights in Australia. PSP Investments is also in the midst of taking over Webster Limited, which has about 50,000 megalitres of water entitlements.
    ASX-listed Webster is chaired by businessman Chris Corrigan and also includes a major nut growing business. PSP Investments’ play for the business is worth $854m including debt, and the Canadian company will also buy about 12,000 hectares of almond orchards and related assets in Victoria from Olam. The Singaporean company will still keep operating both the almond orchards and associated water rights.
    Olam has also entered into a new, tiered revenue sharing arrangement with PSP Investments for the almond orchards, related assets and permanent water rights.
    It will pay PSP Investments a share of revenue from the almond orchards for an initial period of 25 years with options to renew for another 25 years.
    Olam managing director Ashok Krishen said the deal was “consistent with our asset-light approach to tree crop production”.
    “This arrangement will enable Olam Orchards Australia to focus on operations and continue to deliver best-in-class products and services to customers,” he said.
    PSP Investments head of natural resources, Marc Drouin, said the agreement with Olam Orchards Australia was in line with the company’s strategy to partner with best-in-class operators.
    “It is also quite complementary to our existing permanent crop investments around the world and represents a unique avenue to add scale, particularly in Australia,” he said.
    Olam will receive cash proceeds of $490m and also expects to book a one- time pre-tax capital gain of about $311m. The company also flagged it would undertake further divestments this year.
    Headquartered and listed in Singapore, Olam ranks among the city state’s top 30 largest primary listed companies in terms of market capitalisation.

  233. Knuckle Dragger

    Peyote and disco bickies Gunner.

    No question at all.

  234. Tailgunner

    Arky – where’s the frivolous/controversial MMGTOW lawsuits?
    That’s ‘Married Men Going They’re Own Way’
    I demand equal maternity rights/leave, bigots!?!?!!But if you got your girl in hand, then you can pull off unemployed seeing days…
    Game recognized

  235. Tailgunner

    Peyote? Yeh,nah,nah,nah
    The psychodelic stuff is crazy I reckon.
    I was , Maxwell Smart, THIS close to doing an ayuhausca ceremony thing with just me&the 9 witch.
    I politely refused at the 11th hour.
    It’s satanism.
    I knew it deep down.
    #GodPill

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