The stupidest man in American politics

As if where you put the plants inside China matters to global levels of CO2.

Meanwhile, at almost the same level of idiocy, we have this: China says developed countries lack ‘political will’ on climate goals.

Mr Zhao called for developed countries to honour financial commitments including providing US$100 billion to poorer states harmed by climate change.

The US$100 billion – which China has said it is entitled to part of – was a non-binding accompaniment to the Paris Agreement, and was the annual amount that rich countries pledged to muster by 2020.

They wouldn’t say it unless they thought there were people who would take it seriously. And there are!

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45 Responses to The stupidest man in American politics

  1. Is there any historical evidence to suggest that as civilisation reaches certain levels of advancement, rising over previous eras, the level of general stupidity also rises for some inexplicable reason?

  2. max

    The Course of Empire is a series of five paintings created by Thomas Cole in the years 1833–1836.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Course_of_Empire_(paintings)

  3. Entropy

    Oh, humans never let go of their stupidity, be used. Just look at the Salem witch trials back then, sPell today.

    Thing is, this dude is a billionaire and still comes out with the stupid. The difference between a mystical hysteric in the Middle Ages and a dude like a Bloomberg today is the damage they can do.

  4. Karabar

    Is that surprising? He’s a Dummicrat for heaven’s sake!

  5. Truth n Justice

    And our f***kwit prime minister still refuses to get out of Paris?

  6. Alan

    But wait, there’s more:
    Bloomberg told the IMF to raise taxes on the poor, because then the poor will live longer because they can’t afford as many things that “kill them.”

  7. Roger W

    There are plenty of people who have been bamboozled by the talk of Carbon Pollution to confuse rising levels of an invisible, odourless plant food with particulate pollution. A big win for greenie propagandists. Still, that this level of ignorance is shown by a potential Presidential candidate is very worrying!

  8. Whalehunt Fun

    Bloomberg told the IMF to raise taxes on the poor, because the poor will live longer because they then can’t afford as many things that “kill them.”

    Free beer for the rich, paid for by the poor. Sounds good to Bloomers, the latest entrant in the race to be the next Hillary.

    Sort of makes enslavement a form of philanthropy. Explains why the Democrats owned more slaves than Republicans. Explains why black americans mostly vote Democrat. It’s gratitude for their ancestors being made slaves and forced to eat healthy.

  9. Whalehunt Fun

    And our f***kwit prime minister still refuses to get out of Paris?

    And which recent PM was that. The term covers a lot of them, even Howard at the end when he got desperate.

  10. BoyfromTottenham

    Note that Bloomberg totally ignored (and his interviewer failed to pick up) the simple fact that China moving its coal-fired power stations away from major cities would not decrease its CO2 footprint by one iota! Was this a deliberate ‘bait and switch’ tactic or what?

  11. Tel

    Sort of makes enslavement a form of philanthropy.

    That’s been Democrat policy since Andrew Jackson … only the methods have changed, not the intention.

  12. Some History

    A 2009 article on the hypocrisy of the pipsqueak tyrant, “Little Michael”:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/dining/23bloom.html

  13. Some History

    The most frightening words to those doing it tough:

    “I’m Michael Bloomberg and I’m here to help the poor”.

  14. Dr Fred Lenin

    Bloomberg was right about the Chinese dictator. Oops sorry ,elected leader he must have support to remain leader ,he would model his suuport on the old Soviet RUSSIAN model , 10 per cent of the people are party members and members of the aparat nomenklatura that did it for 70 years inRussia ,
    I suppose in the free and fair Chinese “elections” the party polls the usual 106.9 per cent of the primary vote in the massive field of part approved candidates ,usually one in each electorate ,giving the punters a wide choice . Socialist Marxist Democracy works ,dunnit ?

  15. mh

    Michael Bloomberg states that China is combatting ‘global greenhouse gas’ emissions by moving coal fired power plants away from the cities.

    Hillary, come on down!

  16. Ian of Perth

    The man is an idiot, granted he’s a rich (socialist) idiot but an idiot nonetheless! Hard to believe he or anyone else could believe the things he said.

  17. Fisky

    A dumb CCP apologist like Joe Biden, but without the sense to hide it now the winds have changed.

  18. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Mr Zhao called for developed countries to honour financial commitments including providing US$100 billion to poorer states harmed by climate change.

    no it must be 1 trillion!

  19. Dr Fred Lenin.

    Youse deniers haven’t worked out that Western co2causes global crisis ,whereas Asian co2 is different. And doesn’t cause crisis . The worst case scenario is if the west stops paying co2 penalty u.n. Tax money to be given to the Asian co2 people .well I think that’s how it goes . Maybe the West stuff is co2 and pollutes andthe Asian stuff is co3 and beneficial .

  20. I_am_not_a_robot

    It’s a worry and he claims to be a Bachelor of Science, maybe he is just lying to confuse the interviewer and audience, either that or he’s an utter idiot.

  21. Fisky

    Opponents of the Trade War have no choice but to support Bloomberg. He is their standard-bearer. He embodies everything they support – strategic softness on the PRC, unilateral concessions to their interests (such as the phony climate deal), allowing the PRC to cheat on trade with impunity. That was the status quo ante to which all Trade War opponents wish to return.

  22. Tel

    Fisky, are you attempting to put about the dangerous idea that Democrat voters give any consideration to Democrat policy?

  23. tgs

    Lol Xi is not a dictator… his completely tautological argument that every government is legitimate because it has to ‘listen to its people’ and ‘provide services’ is demonstrably false given the existence of revolutions in history.

    Fuck me, Xi rules with the will of the people? Evidence please Mr Bloomberg??

  24. tgs

    Oh fuck off Fisky, you can support free trade in general and not be a dove militarily on China. There ate plenty of shades of grey in there.

  25. jupes

    Roger W:

    There are plenty of people who have been bamboozled by the talk of Carbon Pollution to confuse rising levels of an invisible, odourless plant food with particulate pollution.

    A big win for greenie propagandists indeed. We can see how it works in this post from Boyfrom Tottenham:

    Note that Bloomberg totally ignored (and his interviewer failed to pick up) the simple fact that China moving its coal-fired power stations away from major cities would not decrease its CO2 footprint by one iota! Was this a deliberate ‘bait and switch’ tactic or what?

    It was. In 1999 I visited Beijing and noticed that the city appeared to be powered by dozens (hundreds?) of little coal fired power stations that were emitting black smoke (particle pollutants) that contributed, along with the diesel trucks and two stroke car and motorbike engines, to the horrendous pollution of the city at the time.

    China is now building larger, cleaner (less particle pollutants) coal fired power stations away from the city to bring down real pollution. Using the propaganda term “carbon pollution”, allows self-serving liars like Bloomberg to conflate the two and avoid tricky questions.

  26. Bloomberg simply believes that when you remove shit from your own yard to someone else’s it no longer exists. He’s probably been doing that for most of his life and will continue to do so.

  27. Fisky

    Oh fuck off Fisky, you can support free trade in general and not be a dove militarily on China.

    In favour of Huawei building our 5G and stealing all our data are we? Or the PRC destroying viable businesses with their dumping practices then taking them over for pennies? Are we also fine competing with XJ gulag-labor-produced goods? There’s your “free trade”.

  28. Tel

    We might be coming to the conclusion that if you want to have trade you also need to have some rules.

    Gosh! It’s getting darn complicated!!

  29. Arky

    Hmmmmm.
    I wonder what the connection is between the chinese communist party and western progressives obsession with carbon dioxide?
    Could it be they both want us to be deindustrialised and helpless backwaters?

  30. Robber Baron

    Rich communists like Bloomberg, Turnbull, Rudd etc are the reason why the world needs Trump.

  31. RobK

    Politics aside for a minute, (expanding on jupes line); China is building High Efficiency Low Emissions coal power stations away from built up areas at home. This gains nearly30% efficiency (and reduction in CO2) whilst cleaning the air and renewing the fleet, including allowing future expansion. Including nukes, including peripheral RE (it’s a good look for sales). This is all quite rational in my book.
    There is some slight of hand for the coal power China is selling to the other third world countries because those plants are the cheap, less efficient ones because the clients don’t have the upfront cash, so they produce more co2, like our old bangers.
    Renewing the coal fleet cuts fuel use and CO2. It is what we should be doing, along with nukes away from coal deposits and RE at where suitable.

  32. RobK

    More on topic of the post; Bloomberg did not handle the interview well, obviously, and he will need to lift his game if he hopes to gain traction. It’s late in the game to improve his coaching but I wouldn’t write him off just yet. There must be some talent and resources there and it is unwise to underestimate the opposition.

  33. tgs

    In favour of Huawei building our 5G and stealing all our data are we? Or the PRC destroying viable businesses with their dumping practices then taking them over for pennies? Are we also fine competing with XJ gulag-labor-produced goods? There’s your “free trade”.

    That noted statist Milton Friedman said that one of the few legitimate objectives of the state is self defense.

    5G is one thing, no Huawei can fuck right off. Dumping is different and there are shades of grey it’s easy to get into retarded mercantilist shit like you do so often. Which goods do the gulags produce that we are competing with, Fisky? Please itemise.

  34. Fisky

    Dumping is different and there are shades of grey it’s easy to get into retarded mercantilist shit like you do so often.

    No tgs dumping is one of the PRC’s strategies for buying up Western companies on the cheap after destroying their profitability. It is an economic warfare weapon.

    Which goods do the gulags produce that we are competing with, Fisky? Please itemise.

    Any (all?) cotton grown in XJ is likely employing slave labour.

  35. Oh come on

    Bloomberg is a remarkably underpowered media mogul, especially when you take his wealth into account. He’s rich but he doesn’t seem to have much juice.

  36. yarpos

    Once again the Democrats best and brightest bubbles up to leadership roles. The quality of the people they attract is awesome.

  37. jupes

    Renewing the coal fleet cuts fuel use and CO2. It is what we should be doing …

    Cutting CO2 is irrelevant. In fact, the world would probably benefit from an increase in CO2 emissions. Green the planet and increase crops.

  38. Dr Fred Lenin

    Love to go to a Bloomberg eet and ask him what he thinks about the one million or so muslims being “Re educated”in camps . He probably thinks it’s a Tafe thing .
    The decromats candidate will probably be the one Soros finances , like he did Obama ,owned him totally Soros did ,made a shit stirring muslim activite fromChicago a senator then president ,there is absolutely no corruption in US politics . Soros has his dirty mitts in the Ukraine crap too Giuliani says .

  39. BorisG

    Previously cats argued that because Trump is a successful businessman he must be a genius. By this argument Bloomberg can’t be that stupid.

  40. RobK

    Cutting CO2 is irrelevant.
    It is, but extending the utility of your resources and modernising the fleet, it’s reliability and capacity makes sense.

  41. Mark M

    Michael could have reminded us all how they “cut air pollution” in China when they haven’t moved cement plants …

    Beijing confiscates barbecues in drive to cut air pollution
    “More than 500 barbecue grills seized in three-month campaign are cut up so they cannot be used again”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/27/china-barbecues-air-pollution

  42. Tel

    Previously cats argued that because Trump is a successful businessman he must be a genius. By this argument Bloomberg can’t be that stupid.

    I agree, but being successful in one area doesn’t reliably translate to other endeavors.

    My analysis of this interview is that Bloomberg intelligently understands that Democrats don’t care about those details too much … they want to hear a few keywords, so Bloomberg runs through the party talking points to ensure everyone knows he is on side. Then he has a bit of a halfhearted attempt to make sense of it but both Bloomberg and the young lady know none of it makes much sense (and anyway climate change isn’t real). Think of it much like a Star Trek fan talking to a Star Wars fan about how many battlestars it would take to hunt down the Millennium Falcon. They aren’t stupid, they know it’s a game, they probably think the audience are fairly stupid and that’s difficult to argue with.

  43. Kneel

    “In favour of Huawei building our 5G and stealing all our data are we? “

    Heh.
    1) Huawai didn’t steal 4G tech from US companies, those companies gave it away for a short term profit.
    2) Huawai owns hundreds of 5G patents, which until DT decided they were the devil incarnate, they were NOT enforcing – they gave away their 5G tech that they spent billions creating (Huawai spent >$16B on R&D last year, twice as much as their nearest US competitor)
    3) Huawai is prepared to put in the contact that there is NO spy tech – hardware or software – that they put in their tech. They are even prepared to allow a third party audit to prove it. US tech companies refuse to do the same.

    In my view, the US deep state and TLAs WANT the war on Huawai because they can’t lean on the company to give them spyware like they can US companies.

    Having used both Huawai and competitors products, I can tell you that Huawai has, if anything, slightly better QA, significantly better pricing, and are more responsive to fixing issues. Overall, IMO they offer a superior product and have superior customer sevice than, say, Sierra Wireless.

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