Hanson & Lambie

I can’t quite decide if that sounds like a law firm on Collins Street or the blue-stamped maker’s name on an old Australian-made dunny. More obviously: Scott Morrison has been spending too much time at work and doesn’t even appreciate the dinners left in the oven for his late arrivals home. Would it kill him to say thank you and ask about her day? Well – she slept with the bloke at the bottlo. That’s what this sounds like:

They had the chance to [support my amendments],” Senator Lambie said after the vote.

“But they didn’t because they were too cocky that they’d get their win without me. Well, guess what. Look where that gets you.”

Senator Lambie on Friday told the ABC she warned the Government that it might not have the numbers to pass the bill.

“I could actually see this all starting to fall apart late yesterday afternoon, and I still reached out to someone in the Coalition. I said ‘please get them to come and talk to me because I think your numbers are starting to fall apart’,” he said.

“So I did give them a warning, nobody wanted to talk to me.”

Pauline Hanson offers different excuses for scuttling the government’s union-policing Ensuring Integrity Bill. She claims she couldn’t support the powers it conferred on company administrators if brought in to wind up an errant union. As for promises: “I don’t have to tell the Government which way I’m voting, never did.”

Nobody should believe these scorned woman explanations. Nor Hanson’s what-about allusions to Westpac, as though the government’s response to the bank’s transgressions is evidence of one-sided bad faith when it comes to holistic regulation of organisations. Hanson and Lambie are smart enough to use their own reputations for crabby intransigence to hide a more selfish motive. Something to do with future preference deals, unionists – especially the CFMEU – bringing a lot of game, ground-level, come polling day. That sort of thing.

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52 Responses to Hanson & Lambie

  1. stackja

    Didn’t Scomo put PHON down the bottom on the HTV over some disagreement?
    PHON just wanted some respect?

  2. miltonf

    Didn’t they put the greens and alp ahead of PHON?

  3. Entropy

    stackja
    #3248934, posted on December 1, 2019 at 9:10 am
    Didn’t Scomo put PHON down the bottom on the HTV over some disagreement?
    PHON just wanted some respect

    Hanson has always been about vote harvesting, she doesn’t care where. Never has.

  4. 2dogs

    She claims she couldn’t support the powers it conferred on company administrators

    Are there instances where company liquidators have shown themselves to be unworthy of the public’s trust?

    The absence of such scandals is a remarkable achievement that few other professions could claim.

  5. John Brumble

    Paternal government socialists vote for paternal government socialism. News at 7.

  6. Iampeter

    Something to do with future preference deals, unionists – especially the CFMEU – bringing a lot of game, ground-level, come polling day. That sort of thing.

    One Nation is just a re-incarnation of old-school, nationalist, anti-immigrant, anti-trade, leftism.
    Just like Trump supporters, these are the kind of people that would historically be union-members and Labor voters, or Democrat voters in the states.

    There’s no great mystery here.

  7. Entropy

    And furthermore, has always based her policies Based on the views of who ever she met with that morning.

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    I remember a time, not too long ago, at the QLD state election and in May, when the Libs preferenced PHON last on the ballot box…behind far-left independents and behind the Greens. Meanwhile the Labor party continues to partake in preference deals with the Greens. Please tell me what Hanson owes the Libs?

  9. Petros

    These two rarely contribute anything of substance to the political debate. I keep hoping that they get the boot at the elections. The Tasmanians want to leech off the big island. Isn’t it great to have women in politics?

  10. candy

    Ignored ladies always create troubles, especially those used to being a focus in the media and seeing their attractive faces here and there, and now their schtick is a bit dull.

    The union chaps have stepped in to promise support, some kind of deal. It’s not wise to make deals with certain unions though.

  11. Jock

    I have friends who left the nats and libs to join phon. Their reasons were that the latter were too left and not conservative enough. It will be interesting to see if sucking up to the cfmeu is conservative enough for them.

  12. John Barr

    Maybe she was sending a message to the LNP in a somewhat dramatic way. Ay.

  13. BorisG

    Please tell me what Hanson owes the Libs?

    Nothing. Yet it would be logical for them to support this particular anti-left legislation, if only to do what they preach. As Jock said about PHON supporters who switched from Libs as the latter were too left wing.

    It will be interesting to see if sucking up to the cfmeu is conservative enough for them.

  14. BorisG

    Btw I think this is more designed to assert her power balance role and create free publicity than sucking up to the unions. The unions won’t support her anyway.

    Hanson does not feel good when she is not front page news for a week or two.

  15. stackja

    Entropy
    #3248958, posted on December 1, 2019 at 9:34 am

    Politics is?

  16. BorisG

    Politics is?

    But does she stand for anything at all?

  17. Ubique

    The Bell Curve as it applies to IQ is distinctly shifted to the left in the case of Parliament.

  18. Juan

    It’s interesting to reflect on how the everyday man (and woman) politician is the only game in town these days: ScoMo, Albo, Pauline, Jacqui Lambie …

    And we’re barely a year removed from a Prime Minister ensconced in his own harbourside mansion and an Opposition Leader dining at at ‘Raheen’. How times have changed!

  19. Shy Ted

    Suck it up, ScoMo. The ABC treats Lambie like an oracle of wisdom and ignore her alcoholism, drug abuse and professional misconduct in the military. Hanson, the successful businesswoman, is only ever treated with disdain. PHON electorates are working people who bestow great wealth on the nation and IMHO she represents them well. My prediction – mining jobs jobs jobs in Qld.

  20. Commentators here are forgetting there are two ON senators (Pauline & Malcolm Roberts) and in the NSW Upper house there is Mark Latham. ON rejects the idea of AGW and and wants something done about electricity generation and planning. The liberals and most of the nationals (particularly in NSW) are still in support of the useless Paris Agreement. If the Libs & Nats would see the light and go along with ON ideas about energy, mining, jobs and democracy (free speech, citizen initiated referendum) then they will get back at the next election, get back some voters from ON but will not wipe out ON and will not stop Pauline being reelected to the Senate at the next election. I suggest that she will get at least 12% of the first preference vote and will take the fourth or fifth place in Qld.

  21. Not Uh oh

    Didn’t Scomo recently agree to a $150m debt waiver for Tasmania in return for Lambie’s support for the Govt’s tax cuts? Why on earth would he think that either of these ladies would now give their support without, dare I say it, a similar quid pro quo? They now know how easy it is to roll the Libs so the shakedowns will just get bigger. SFL. No principles but plenty of OPM.

  22. Juan

    I suggest that she will get at least 12% of the first preference vote and will take the fourth or fifth place in Qld.

    Any idea who might be the № 2 on the PHON Queensland Senate Ticket?

    She’s had a bad run with people elected on her coattails turning on her. Malcolm Roberts is about the only one who had remained true through thick and thin.

  23. Roger

    Something to do with future preference deals, unionists – especially the CFMEU – bringing a lot of game, ground-level, come polling day.

    Swings to PHON in QLD were particularly strong in seats where mining featured and came at the expesne of Labor.

    In an interview on ABC Brisbane radio just prior to the election, the CFMMEU state head conceded many of his members were not going to vote for the ALP as there was “a lot of anger out there”.

  24. Hanson and Lambie are smart enough to use their own reputations for crabby intransigence to hide a more selfish motive. Something to do with future preference deals, unionists – especially the CFMEU – bringing a lot of game, ground-level, come polling day. That sort of thing.

    It’s always a conspiracy with you lot.

    How about an alternative view: that it was a bad bill, and Morro’s were too arrogant and/or incompetent to get the votes through compromise?

  25. How about an alternative view: that it was a bad bill, and Morro’s were too arrogant and/or incompetent to get the votes through compromise?

    I’m struggling to see how it was a bad bill. Please expand on that.
    Easy to believe Dr. Spin (alias Scott Turnbull) is incompetent. Getting a bill through parliament is a form of achievement – nobody with two functioning brain cells is going to expect much of that from Slowmo.

  26. BrettW

    No surprise with Lambie. She was all bluster about supporting the Union bill if Setka did not step down. Total BS from the start and knew she would never support it.

    As for Hanson she has seen the benefit of CFMMEU support. Don’t forget her candidate in the Hunter Valley was a miner and came close to winning Fitzgibbons seat. With Union support she might pick up some seats in Qld and could possibly hold real power in a hung parliament.

    Many Union leaders have sold out their members and it is the leaders just protecting their rightful place at the trough.

    Lets not forget the following :

    HSU – Mike Williamson (former President of Labour Party) ripped of $20 million over many years with money also going to his family. Craig Thompson (protege of Williamson) same Union and an MP by the time his credit card rorting became public. Then Kathy Jackson in VIC also helping herself to Union funds. There is no way other HSU leaders did not know what was going on. This is the Union where now Senator Kimberley Kitching came from and was shown to have fraudulently helped HSU leaders pass tests for access to workplaces.

    TWU – Tony Sheldons NSW branch shown to have inflated membership by double. Sheldon VP of Labour Party. Fake membership numbers give you more voted and power at Labour conferences to pick parliamentary leaders etc. Sheldon now a Senator after becoming Labour No 1 pick. Special mention to the two WA TWU leaders who got their funds to pay for $150,000 Utes from USA.

    AWU – Shortens well documented selling out of his Clean Event (ie. to massive benefit of the business) workers and the Mushroom workers in return for donation to Union funds. Fake memberships for groups such as Jockeys etc. Massive over reporting of membership numbers again. Cesar Melham etc.

    NWU – Union head Derrick Belan and his niece convicted of rorting hundreds of thousands out of the Union.

    CFMEU – Setka thug in chief and admitted wife basher. Dave Hanna of Qld three convictions for destroying Union documents prior to TURC, rape and receiving benefits from MIRVAC in relation to his house build. Multiple of Union convictions for bullying and intimidation on stirs around the country. Strikes on pretty much every Hospital or Govt build job in the country. Can’t remember his name (Smith) but Qld Mining head had plenty of interesting expenses on his credit card but naturally Labour blocked legislation to require Unions to reveal credit card expenses. It was also Qld CFMEU which had a case involving dodgy leadership election practices. Not to mention well documented love by CFMEU leaders for Hugo Chavez.

    Plus there was dodgy practices in NSW involving $100,000 funds for a CFMEU run drug rehab place where the funds were then given to CFMEU general account. Or Setka’s mob in VIC holding “charitable” functions where the only money that went to the charity was from the auction items but not the over inflated seat charge. Then you have Hanna spending $10,00o from a workers fund for his mates wife IVF treatment. What do Setka and Hanna have in common ? Both their wives worked in the businesses that supplied clothing to the Unions. In Setka’s case that company is run by him when you would think it should be the Union benefiting from the income. His kindness knows no bounds.

    In all the above cases the money involved was significant and there is no way other Union leaders could not have known what was going on.

    Let’s not forget the police dropped 30 charges against Setka in relation to his wife abuse. Also note he is trying to take over SA to include in his VIC/ TAS rorting ground.

    Let’s also not forget that Police Ministers in ACT, VIC and Qld all happened to be CFMEU affiliated but also stood down in strange circumstances.

    So congratulations Lambie and Hanson for showing their support for all the Union members who have been ripped off by their leaders and the many small businesses intimated by them (30 alone in the Indooroopilly shopping centre a few years ago).

    If anybody can think of other examples please mention as I have probably forgotten some.

  27. BrettW

    PS Honourable mention to the politicised Emergency Services in VIC, especially the Ambulance guys who covered their Govt owned vehicles with slogans against the Napthine Govt.

    Sal,
    Strange how you blame ScoMo Govt when Hanson had got all the changes she apparently asked for and then still voted against. She is now bought and paid for by CFMEU thugs.

  28. Old Lefty

    Mmm…. Maybe Keating was right about unrepresentative swill.

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She is now bought and paid for by CFMEU thugs.

    Didn’t the CFMEU contribute to the Lambie coffers?

  30. Sal,
    Strange how you blame ScoMo Govt when Hanson had got all the changes she apparently asked for and then still voted against. She is now bought and paid for by CFMEU thugs.

    BrettW: I’m blaming Scomo not for failing on any particular piece of legislation, but for not being up to the job.
    He’s turning out to be what he always has been, a spin doctor who hasn’t the faintest idea how to get things done on the factory floor. I’d be surprised if he could organise an outhouse to have sufficient rolls of paper inside.

  31. BrettW: The CFMMMMEU mining chap in Central Qld you’re thinking of is Stephen Smythe, and yeah, there is quite some travel & other charges on his account that could prove difficult to explain if union officials had to justify in public their expenses.
    In the leadup to the federal election he ran a Facebook Group of CFMMEU & “supporters” – the group quickly became a way for members (not always under fake ID either) to tell the CFMEU what they really thought of them, & in particular what they really thought of Smythie. He’s now much more careful about providing a public forum for feedback. Much more careful.
    A quick read of the group revealed to that the ALP had Buckleys in the CQ mining belt.

  32. Old School Conservative

    Hanson appears a lot on PML.
    First question on her next appearance – “So it’s true that you’re a fully paid up union member?”

  33. BorisG

    How about an alternative view: that it was a bad bill…

    SO Libs are bad but Pauline Hanson is all wisdom and virtue ? LOL. So bad bill that brilliant Hanson recognized it and voted against despite Libs agreeing to all her amendments ?

    Actually if this was a bad bill, in her view, she should have said this from the start. Or at least afterwards. But she did not then and not now. It is all about ‘they have taken my vote for granted’. Nothing about the bill itself.

  34. Beachcomber

    2dogs at 9:35 am

    She claims she couldn’t support the powers it conferred on company administrators

    Are there instances where company liquidators have shown themselves to be unworthy of the public’s trust?

    Are you kidding? This is an ongoing scandal where liquidators strip a company’s assets, pay themselves very, very handsomely, and leave the creditors with nothing! You don’t hear about it because the creditors are mostly small business people who don’t matter to the establishment.

  35. Entropy

    Actually if this was a bad bill, in her view, she should have said this from the start. Or at least afterwards. But she did not then and not now. It is all about ‘they have taken my vote for granted’. Nothing about the bill itself

    Quite so. Also, a bit hard to have taken her for granted when they actually sat down and agreed to every amendment she asked for.
    Obviously, they didn’t give her a pony as a bonus on top.

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “a happy little debunker
    #3249265, posted on December 1, 2019 at 3:41 pm
    Everything wrong with Jacqui Lambie
    https://www.facebook.com/abchobart/videos/325838508101085/

    Lambie is utterly grotesque….a blot and a blight.

  37. She claims she couldn’t support the powers it conferred on company administrators
    Are there instances where company liquidators have shown themselves to be unworthy of the public’s trust?

    Are you kidding? This is an ongoing scandal where liquidators strip a company’s assets, pay themselves very, very handsomely, and leave the creditors with nothing! You don’t hear about it because the creditors are mostly small business people who don’t matter to the establishment.

    Well said Beachcomber.
    +100,000

    The only time I can recall it making news was the case of the Nickel Refinery in Townsville – and even then the clueless j’ismists were too busy writing “Clive Palmer is overweight which proves he’s a shifty businessman” type articles to pay any attention to the facts of the matter.

  38. jupes

    Imagine living in a country where there are enough people to vote for Jaquie Jackie to be a senator.

    What hope do we have?

  39. Truth n Justice

    Morrison put Hanson below the green sucking labor scum at the last election. What did he expect? Chickens always come home to roost. A stupid bit of virtue signalling has cost the libs big time but do you think they have learnt anything from this? Not a bit.

  40. Cassie of Sydney

    “Truth n Justice
    #3249338, posted on December 1, 2019 at 5:32 pm
    Morrison put Hanson below the green sucking labor scum at the last election. What did he expect? Chickens always come home to roost. A stupid bit of virtue signalling has cost the libs big time but do you think they have learnt anything from this? Not a bit.”

    My thoughts exactly….and no…the stupid fucking Liberals have learnt nothing and will continue to learn nothing. You reap what you sow.

  41. Tel

    It’s a dumb idea in principle to have magic laws that apply only for unions, when you have similar but arbitrarily non-identical rules for corporations. Then one set of events can cause you to be disbarred from being a corporate director, but a quite different set of events would then cause you to be disbarred from being a union boss. Both positions are significantly influenced by the “Principle / Agent Problem” and you would expect basic operations like honest bookkeeping and acting in the member’s / shareholder’s interest to be standardized.

    However, once we get past that issue. If the Liberals might learn anything from their past mistakes like Work Choices, they should learn that a hostile Senate is there to be a helpful house of review. The Liberal Party could benefit greatly from simply listening to other people outside their own bubble now and then. Lambie’s amendments aren’t so bad. Measure three times, cut once.

    The Liberals had a try at railroading this one … they deliberately kept the details quiet for the longest possible time and when Lambie requested a formal process for unions to respond with comment, that seems like an entirely reasonable thing to do.

    Sorry guys … I’m coming out in favour of Lambie on this one. She did the right thing.

    Lambie’s amendments lift the bar on bad behaviour, to ensure it cannot be merely something trivial, has to be a serious offense. The original draft legislation defined “designated finding” as: including:

    (i) a civil penalty provision of this Act; or
    (ii) a civil remedy provision of the Fair Work Act; or
    (iii) a civil remedy provision of the Building and Construction Industry (Improving Productivity) Act 2016 ; or
    (iv) a WHS civil penalty provision of the Work Health and Safety Act 2011 ; or
    (v) a provision of a State or Territory OHS law (within the meaning of the Fair Work Act), other than an offence.

    I mean, that could be pretty much anything, any little slap on the wrist safety fine would count. That’s a really stupid thing to legislate. ScoMo should be keeping his team on a tighter leash because they are so hard trying to shoot themselves in the foot same as Work Choices all over again.

    https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query%3DId%3A%22legislation%2Fbillhome%2Fr6348%22;rec=0

    There’s the bits and pieces if anyone wants to read it.

  42. Beachcomber

    It might be by accident, but Hanson and Malcolm Roberts may have gotten it right on this. We don’t need more legislation giving more powers to government and administrators/receivers, with all of the inevitable unintended(?) consequences; such as stripping the assets from struggling farmers and businesses and their creditors.

    The SFLs should instead be repealing legislation that exempts unions from corporate governance responsibilities and liabilities. That would seem to be the obvious way to go. We need less legislation and government power, not more.

  43. Entropy

    I might in fact agree with that Beachcomber.

  44. Chris M

    Suck it up, ScoMo…

    Well put Ted, 100% agree. Librls ooze smugness so much they no longer realise it.

  45. Squirrel

    Unless the Liberals are prepared to move on their version of Big Australia – in a serious way, not just with bulldust about luring immigrants to “the regions” and still piling a couple of hundred thousand a year extra into the cities – the likes of Hanson and Lambie are going to be around for a long time.

    They could also try getting their heads around the political consequences of their half-smart efforts to move towards a flat-tax regime for income tax – catnip for the cocktail party set, but a two-fingered salute for Howard Battler types who are still paying marginal rates in the high 30s (when you include the Medicare Levy and withdrawal of the low income tax offset) on truly low incomes. Many of the latter group work in marginal, insecure jobs, and a perceived attack on a union movement which they see as one of their few defences would not go down well with them.

  46. deplorable

    Interesting comments but could it all come down to Phon and Hanson being sick and tired of being shit on by McKenzie at every opportunity in question time. You may think Hanson is an arsehole but remember the old joke about who is the boss of the body and in this instance Phon has proven to be the boss. A bit of respect from Senate LNP towards Phon is required as their votes and those people who voted for them are important. This is how the game has always been played and the government of the day has to deal with the cross benchers especially in the Senate. RESPECT

  47. Gowest

    If PHON were bad/whatever for opposing this legislation then so are all the others who opposed it – anyone of them could have changed their vote.
    As for the lib/nats they are pretty stupid having the thoroughly unionised public service law-fare practitioners draft this legislation in the first place. I can also see them using this to hit the rich unions for big multiple fines like the banks to balance the budget. More user pays legislation from our economy killing government.
    They would have been better off getting the employers to draft it – at least it would be written by the current victims who know the damage their current laws cause and how to level the playing field!

  48. Helen

    Both gals have always been suckers for a knowledgeable bloke, unfortunately it means they don’t always think with their brains.

    This CFMEU bloke seems woke in this regard and used his charms well on Pauline just like Epstein did all those years ago. Probs why she has gay CoS now. Just sayin.

  49. Jimf

    I’m surprised Hanson can even get out of bed in the morning given she’s so “sick and tired” all the time …

  50. Tel

    A bit of respect from Senate LNP towards Phon is required as their votes and those people who voted for them are important. This is how the game has always been played and the government of the day has to deal with the cross benchers especially in the Senate. RESPECT

    Oh come now, bullying is what usually works … can’t see any reason to change strategy now!

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