Throw some more money on the barbeque

There is so much to say about this.  Much.  There will be the usual calls for more money.  Perhaps Gonski 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

Results are going down so more money needs to be spent.  It’s as if the education industrial complex want poor results so they can get more money and more power.

Where is the accountability for the results?  Has a single education minister, education bureaucrat, education academic resigned or been fired?

Imagine what would have happened if they failed to provide their data to Austrac.

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21 Responses to Throw some more money on the barbeque

  1. Matt

    Maybe we should outsource our education to China? Sarc.

  2. Jannie

    If you were to compare those results with the expenditure per student Australia would be getting the lowest results per dollar spent.

  3. Paul

    I’ll say it. Our educational results are inversely proportionate to our commitment to flooding the Nation with third-world diversity. This is the real 30 foot Somali in the room.

  4. Win

    What a farce this is the result of PM Julia Gillards education revolution which apparently she is now exporting to the rest of the world China and Singapore excluded.

  5. nfw

    What do you expect when you constantly import low IQ immigrants who pass their low IQ genes onto their children?

  6. stackja

    2 and 2 don’t add up to 4 anymore. Fabianism is succeeding.

  7. flyingduk

    The results directly mirror national IQ, and no surprises there: educational outcome is much more about genetic IQ than formal teaching. We can expect our results to continue to decline as we dilute our traditional ‘white western’ IQ of 100 with the 70-80 ranges of our replacement 3rd world immigrant stock.

  8. Tel

    A scatter graph with spending per child would be helpful.

    We should try this OCD Pizza test on the politicians in Canberra and see how they compare with the students.

  9. Louis Litt

    Wow – no joke I can’t believe we are this height up- my youngest in yr 12 comes home with climate change, Aust is racist and women don’t get paid as much as men. FMD this is from a Catholic School which are built on you thinking ( not being given the answer eg English Grammar Schools) and critical analysis.

  10. I understand that a major part of the problem is the fact that to become a teacher today requires almost no education in itself. The bar has been lowered so far that a final year primary school student of say 50 years ago was more qualified than a newly graduated teacher of today.

  11. Politenessman

    I would ignore China, being a communist country they are almost certainly faking their results, but Singapore is doing markedly better than we are, I’d suggest having a good look at what they are doing differently.
    But we won’t – the educators union will pretend that they represent children and demand more money. and we will dutifully hand it over. again.

  12. Mark

    We scored very low on science, maths and reading. We would no doubt have scored very well on gender fluidity, climate activism, and environmental studies…..but these were not tested since other countries don’t spend hours of school time on these subjects!

  13. Rex Mango

    Let each state run their own education system. If NSW, or QLD are getting the best results, copy what they are doing. Federal government get out of the way.

  14. The difference between Australia’s score and tenth place is less than 1%. Statistically insignificant.
    Due to cultural differences, Western nations are never going to catch up to the likes of China, Singapore, S Korea and Japan. But would you want to?
    The very same culture that produces these high scores also stifles innovation.
    The US seems to be in an even worse position, yet they are still the most innovative nation on Earth.

    As others have pointed out, a closer look at the per student outlays would be more useful.

  15. The very same culture that produces these high scores also stifles innovation.

    There’s no stifling of innovation in those higher rated countries. And even with China, they are innovating and producing increasingly sophisticated and high quality products all the time.

    But a more important issue is what will the situation in Australia look like in say another 10 years? It’s the trend that’s important.

  16. Tel

    The very same culture that produces these high scores also stifles innovation.

    Remember that high test scores only tell you about people answering questions in that particular test.

    It’s difficult to test for innovation, so people instead test for memory and basic skills, doing repetitive mechanical operations. Don’t get me wrong … those basic skills are useful … but they are not a complete set of what is needed for success.

    There could be a tendency in Australia to refuse to teach too narrowly to the test itself, hence lose a few points … but we have always had that philosophy so it doesn’t explain recent decline in the most fundamental skills like reading.

  17. Diogenes

    I’d suggest having a good look at what they are doing differently.

    Japan, Korea, China, Singapore … kids spend up to 4 hours after school in “cram schools”.

    In Singapore the average teacher teaches 18 hours a week* NSW 22** teaching f2f (includes sport, and yard supervision)

    *

    SINGAPORE – Working conditions for teachers here appear to have improved, with educators putting in fewer hours each week now than they did five years ago. This is because they are spending less time on administrative work and marking, which also gives them more time to teach, according to a new global survey.
    However, they still work longer hours – 46 per week – than their overseas counterparts, who clock an average of 39 hours a week and also spend more time in the classroom than teachers here, according to the Teaching and Learning International Survey (Talis) released on Wednesday (June 19).

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/singapore-teachers-work-fewer-hours-than-before-but-teach-more-global-survey

    **https://www.nswtf.org.au/files/allocation-of-duties-high-schools-2011.pdf

  18. Tim Neilson

    There could be a tendency in Australia to refuse to teach too narrowly to the test itself, hence lose a few points …

    Tel, see Mark’s comment at 8.29 am.

    We’re leading the educational world in teaching primary school kids about breast binding, penis tucking and anal sex.

  19. Squirrel

    Happy to use this as a reason to get some of the PC bulldust out of the curriculum, but one has to be a bit sceptical about a ranking system that puts Sweden ahead of ‘Straya – an education system that can produce Greta must have serious problems……

  20. Docket62

    The report is produced by a QUANGO – Acer Education research – an oxymoron in and of itself. I would suggest these reports are produced at STAGGERING cost to the tax payer for no benefit whatsoever. Who keeps funding this shit?

  21. max

    PISA is report on government education departments.

    Why are you surprised that socialist government education do not work?

    H.L. Mencken:

    “The most erroneous assumption is to the effect that the aim of public education is to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken their intelligence, and so make them fit to discharge the duties of citizenship in an enlightened and independent manner. Nothing could be further from the truth. The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else.”

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