Political Doppelgängers

Yesterday evening, TAFKAS schlepped over to The Sydney Institute to hear Aaron Patrick from the AFR discuss his latest book on the recent Federal election – The Surprise Party.

Aaron started his comments recounting a story from just before, possibly the day before, the leadership change from Malcolm Turnbull to Scott Morrison.

Apparently, at this extremely challenging moment, Malcolm Turnbull, Lucy Turnbull and Christopher Pyne were sitting in the Prime Minister’s office eating beef tacos (presumably sustainably sourced), reading Twitter and chortling.

This story demonstrates again the appalling political judgement of Turnbull.  Not only was he not ringing his colleagues to make his case, but he was keeping the company and counsel of Christopher Pyne, the person one might suspect was the source of the story, a story likely to embarrass Turnbull.  Who else would have told such details to Patrick?  Turnbull was writing his own book.  Why would he share it?

This morning, TAFKAS was reading the AFR when Myriam Robin was writing about Kevin Rudd and his “prodigious letter-writing campaign”:

The Asia Society president had another missive in The Guardian on Wednesday. In it, he objected to an exceedingly brief reference by David Marr to his government having “collapsed”. “Did my leadership collapse? No. It was torn down,” Rudd thundered, reminding readers he’d been overthrown by a “premeditated coup”. As if anyone could forget.

My oh my.  And it suddenly dawned on TAFKAS.  Turnbull and Rudd are political doppelgängers of each other.  Consider this.

  • Both are products of challenging single parent households and carry the scars of same.
  • Both reached success due their more talented wives.
  • Both reached political leadership, twice, through nefarious perfidy and treachery and both ignore their “origin” stories, demonstrating rank hypocrisy when describing how they lost political leadership.
  • Both believed their positions of leadership came not from the support of the majority of their colleagues, but rather from the “electorate”.
  • Both, having lost leadership, just can’t and won’t go away; both seem to have an incessant need to be seen, heard and spoken of.
  • Both are citizens of the world, maintaining residences in New York; and most tellingly
  • Both are described as less likeable the more one gets to know them.

How did this happen.  2 sides of the same coin.

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21 Responses to Political Doppelgängers

  1. jo

    When they look at each other they only see themselves.

  2. BoyfromTottenham

    How did this happen? Simple, both have huge egos, probably bolstered by their wives wanting to bathe in the glow of their husbands’ success. Secondly, both being males and having had no father figure, they become narcissistic, so nothing matters but themselves. Lastly, their respective political parties were stupid enough to fail to identify their personality faults early and get rid of them.

  3. Scott Osmond

    Both gamma males. Almost textbook examples.

  4. candy

    I think Turnbull is the more devious. He and Bishop/Pyne/Morrison were in collaboration to rid themselves of Abbott only one year into his PMship.

    I don’t think Rudd went down that track, of knifing his leader. Of course, he may have thought he was too popular and lovely to need to do such things, but he did not actually conspire with secret meetings, telephones and emails, which really takes quite some treachery and cold-bloodedness.

  5. Damian of Lathlain

    Secondly, both being males and having had no father figure, they become narcissistic, so nothing matters but themselves.

    Not correct – Turnbull was raised by his father who was a successful businessman and left Malcolm a handy inheritance. Turnbull’s mother abandoned the family.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    This story demonstrates again the appalling political judgement of Turnbull.

    Sure does. No self-respecting climate tragic would ever be caught eating meat.

    ‘It’s nuts’: Former PM Malcolm Turnbull slams government’s ‘religious’ climate change response (10 Dec)

    Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has taken a swing at the government’s “fundamental problem in dealing with climate change”, saying religion and belief should never play a part.

    How dare he eat meat when the planet is melting? Gaia will smite him for that blasphemous act! On the other hand maybe he wants one of Pyne’s subs named after him. ‘HMAS Turnbull’ has a nice historical ring about it.

  7. Helen

    Yet their wives, intelligent, capable women wealthy in their own right, both adore them.

    (I think I’d rather have dinner with Therese, though, than Lucy. It would be the difference between cream and strawberries to plain old oats.)

  8. What I fail to understand is how so many people fell hook, line and sinker for these two; believing they were some sort of messiahs.

    You could tell from a mile away what they truly represented. And none of it was good.

  9. Tim Neilson

    candy
    #3259136, posted on December 12, 2019 at 11:18 am

    Maybe Mick Trumble was worse, but KRudd was undoubtedly a devious treacherous little turd.

    In Mark Latham’s memoirs he recounts how as ALP leader he was hampered by the constant leaks to Laurie Oakes, and he decided to entrap KRudd, who he knew was the source.

    He told KRudd something saying “don’t tell anyone else at all – it’s a closely guarded secret that very few know about”.
    Next day it appeared in Oakes’ column. Latham called KRudd in and revealed that the secret was totally fictitious – just something Latham had made up and had told no-one in the whole world about except Rudd.
    Apparently KRudd launched into an impassioned denial, swearing on his mother’s grave that he hadn’t leaked it. Even Latham, used to political bastardry and dishonesty of the highest order, was flabbergasted.

  10. Tim Neilson

    ‘HMAS Turnbull’ has a nice historical ring about it.

    On its maiden voyage it would crash into a bridge and sink, blocking a vital shipping channel.

    Then after salvage and repair it would do exactly the same thing again.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thorium has nothing on Coles mince.
    Just got the newly arrived female koel cuckoo to accept food from my hand for the first time.
    Powerful stuff, Coles mince is, and irresistible.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, wrong thread! On the other hand Malcolm might go for Coles mince too.

  13. Rohan

    Someone actually wrote a book on a federal election and someone actually went to hear a reporter speak on that very same book?

    Far out Brussel sprout, some poeple really do lead exciting lives!

    #bucketlistfulfilled

  14. Ubique

    I’ve been saying for ten years that Turnbull and Rudd are twins separated at birth. As Opposition leader, Turnbull could never lay a glove on a rampant Rudd as he agreed with all of Rudd’s policies.

    Once Turnbull was booted by Abbott in December 2009, Rudd’s goose was cooked – his support collapsed and he was gone, replaced by Gillard in June 2010.

  15. min

    Firstly Turnbull was abandoned by his mother , she walked out on him and that leads to feelings of being unloveable. So it follows that he had to do a lot of self promotion to get approval and acceptance. But from all accounts he was a little shit even at a young age so he had to be the best to get approval etc. does not mean being nice . However mother’s story does not give much hope for the genetics he inherited.
    Rudd ‘s wife ran a business getting disabled people into jobs and As I worked as a consultant in a large International staff selection company I know about fee structures etc . She made her money when she got all the government work when hubby was bureaucrat running Queensland. Cushy and cosy because what experience would she have had dealing with executive selection from disabled into work
    Rudd suffered from inferiority so had to be superior to feel good about himself.
    The two of them chucked out , Failure and not the topdog so have to keep trying to prove it all the time.
    NB Abbott does not do the same

  16. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    They’re both infuriating narcissistic pompous windbags.

  17. Mother Lode

    This story demonstrates again the appalling political judgement of Turnbull. Not only was he not ringing his colleagues to make his case,

    This was his approach to the election he ‘won’ on the back of a single seat picked up by the Nationals on their platform, not Maolcolm’s.

    He would do a couple of hours campaigning in the morning, then retire to his preening room. It would be rude (and demeaning) to ask people to do what they must surely be going to do anyway – vote for him.

    Morro was probably stoked eventually to see that, since Maol had campaigned under ‘The Mick Trumble Coalition Team’ the Liberal logo had not taken the hit.

  18. Helen

    min, take your observations, but maybe a bit unfair to her, she had disabled Dad and head of Physio rehab mum, so exposed to it all at the coal face.

    Rein was born on 17 July 1958 in Adelaide, South Australia. Her father, John Rein, was a Royal Australian Air Force navigator who had suffered severe spinal cord damage during a plane crash. He later became an aeronautical engineer and represented Australia as a paralympian, his achievements playing a pivotal role in inspiring his daughter.[5] He met his future wife Elizabeth at a rehabilitation hospital in Sydney where she was working as the head of physiotherapy.

    In 1986 she worked part-time as a rehabilitation counsellor, primarily helping people get back into the workforce

    So some exposure.

    The manner of getting the contracts may have been dodgy – I don’t know that. But it takes skill to run a company and she has obviously done that well.

  19. Professor Fred Lenin

    I can just see it ,if newspapers still exist , an article in March 2085,
    “The first of Australias submarines HMAS Turnbull has been deliverd, a little behind time ,it is to be followed by HMAS Pyne in six more years . A fleet of six will be available by the turn of the century .
    . Crews are not available as the submarine concept is obsolete and the money is needed to complete the obsolete NBN which is running a little behind schedule .

  20. Squirrel

    Some interesting parallels, although Rudd did actually win an election, and won it very well – it’s just that things didn’t go too well after that (and maybe thus a broad parallel with Abbott).

    As to this – “Malcolm Turnbull, Lucy Turnbull and Christopher Pyne were sitting in the Prime Minister’s office eating beef tacos (presumably sustainably sourced), reading Twitter and chortling.” – and mistaking the clatter of tumbrels for a carriage to take them to the masked ball?

  21. NuThink

    Both, having lost leadership, just can’t and won’t go away; both seem to have an incessant need to be seen, heard and spoken of.

    Not just miserable ghosts but poltergeists, staying around to torture us.

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