Open Forum: December 14, 2019

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  1. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Good morning!

  2. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    No Kittehs.
    Must be time for bed.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    The last OT could have run to 21 pages, had it not been for the UK election.

    Poor start, Boris. Poor darts indeed.

  4. zyconoclast

    NSW board accepts complaint against Folau

    Campaigner Garry Burns wrote to the board’s president in early December complaining about Folau’s infamous April Instagram post in which he warned hell awaits homosexuals.

    Mr Burns also complained about the rugby player’s comments seen in a video sermon linking severe droughts and unprecedented bushfires to the legalisation of same-sex marriage in late 2017.

    He wrote that Folau’s statements were “objectively capable of incitement of contempt and or hatred of homosexual persons on the ground of their homosexuality”.

    The anti-discrimination board on Friday informed Mr Burns his complaint had been accepted under the state’s Anti-Discrimination Act.

    Once a complaint is accepted it normally goes to conciliation.

    If that fails to resolve the matter it can be referred to the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal for a legal decision.

  5. zyconoclast

    Garry Burns

    “Mark my words, Mr Folau is about to cop a dose of third-degree Burns,” Mr Burns said in a statement.

    Mr Burns gofundme

    $6,935 of $100,000
    Raised by 158 people in 22 days

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    I have reflected on the current sausage-fastness of the last OT, and have developed a theory.

    Unlike climaticians, however, I will wait until the end of the weekend before declaring the science settled in this matter.

  7. Knuckle Dragger

    *sausage-festness*

    Shit.

  8. classical_hero

    Part of the team.

  9. Old School Conservative

    And now for something completely different – a strong criticism of Netflix’s “The Crown” in the Oz.
    Tilted Crown an exercise in cruelty to royal family and the people of Britain
    Basic premise – recent series is intrusive, cruel, breaches privacy, full of mistakes and falsehoods, takes constant liberties with history.
    Reserves a lot of its criticism for the implication that Prince Philip as good as killed his sister.
    Worth buying the paper for this article alone – let alone the photo of Smith’s wonderful catch!

  10. zyconoclast

    Why waste money investigating something they do not plan to do?

    Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister Angus Taylor has poured cold water on calls to partially lift Australia’s moratorium on nuclear power to allow investigation of emerging technologies.

    A Coalition-dominated parliamentary inquiry found next-generation technologies such as small modular reactors should be explored by experts for use in Australia.

    “If we’re serious about reducing greenhouse gas emissions, we can’t simply ignore this zero-emissions baseload technology,” committee chairman and LNP MP Ted O’Brien said. “Australia should say a definite ‘no’ to old nuclear technologies but a conditional ‘yes’ to new and emerging technologies such as small modular reactors.”

    But Mr Taylor said the government had “no plans” to lift the moratorium, which has been maintained by Labor and Coalition governments since 1998. “Any changes to the moratorium would need bipartisan support and broad community acceptance,” he said.

    Australian Conservation Foundation spokesman David Sweeney said lifting the ban would start a “conga line of supplicants to Canberra promising low carbon energy and seeking high public subsidy”.

  11. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Good morrow Helen.
    Great to see there is at least one Lady Cat on air.

  12. Pete of Perth

    Watching Revenge of the nerds II. Takes me back..

  13. zyconoclast


    Great to see there is at least one Lady Cat on air.

    Just for you you some other late night cat ladies.

  14. Arky

    While I understand the celebratory instinct in the face of an immediate awful alternative and the desire to stick it up some truely shit people, all this election has done is ensure a watered down version of brexit, a continuation of deindustrialisation and a ratcheting up of the government take over of health and education.
    Of late it is the health juggernaut that most worries.
    Some truly evil things building there, plus the lost opportunities as government crowd out the driving force of the market.
    This man is no Trump.

  15. classical_hero

    Helen, it’s still night out West.

  16. areff

    Between BoM and ABC, the bullshit never stops:

    Australia could experience its hottest day on record next week as a hot air mass building in Western Australia makes its way east.

    Perth is enduring an unprecedented heatwave for December, with the city expected to hover close to 40 degrees for four consecutive days until Sunday.

    But the Bureau of Meteorology has warned that as a cool change sweeps in on Monday, the blistering heat will travel interstate.

    “We’re expecting some incredibly warm conditions as we head into next week, potentially record-breaking for a number of areas across southern Australia over the next seven days or so,” BOM meteorologist Diana Eadie said.

    I’m not posting a link because it only encourages them.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    areff at 1:04.
    It’s the BoJo effect.

  18. Steve trickler

    Looking at the full Moon from over in the West.



  19. struth

    Good moaning Vietnam.

    There’s a few pussies there that you’d like to get a- purring Zyco

  20. 2dogs

    Parliamentary report supports the use of nuclear power in Australia.

    (ALP report dissenting.)

  21. Steve trickler

    Perfect timing from Heller.



  22. 2dogs

    Even the pro-nuclear report accepted the rather baseless assertion from green groups that in Australia, nuclear power “does not have community support”.

    I think we need to start organising some pro-nuclear demonstrations.

  23. Mark A

    2dogs
    #3261193, posted on December 14, 2019 at 2:09 am

    Even the pro-nuclear report accepted the rather baseless assertion from green groups that in Australia, nuclear power “does not have community support”.

    I think we need to start organising some pro-nuclear demonstrations.

    This aversion bordering on hatred to nuclear in Aus. is irrational. Maybe those older or with better memory can enlighten us of the origin of it?

  24. Tom

    Needless to say, the anti-business daily and David Rowe loathe democracy, Brexit and BoJo.

  25. Tom

    Just as the British media establishment and Dave Brown (London Independent) loathes BoJo.

  26. Mark A

    Thanks Tom.
    Don’t be like the Doomlord and try to accommodate all, drop those stupid watercolour ‘toons of Rowe.
    They are a pain.
    Numbers can look them up for himself.

  27. rugbyskier

    Johannes Leak has an attention to detail that was evident in his father’s work. His cartoon of Kristina Keneally and Kerryn Phelps had the man with the botched penis enlargement in the line for the medevac flight and today’s cartoon features a play on the Labour slogan “For the Many, Not the Few” on Corbyn’s cards by changing the slogan to highlight Corbyn’s anti-Semitism.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    LOL.

    Protestors march on Downing Street enraged at Boris Johnson’s election win ‘Not my PM!’

    Boris Johnson’ s election victory has seemingly enraged Brits in central London tonight. Protestors have decided to march on Downing Street chanting “not my Prime Minister”. The 2019 election results showed that the Conservatives would stay in power and hold a majority of 80 seats.

    Many videos have shown clashes with police and loud chanting as protestors confront the police attempting to maintain the large groups of people.

    Leave whilst you still can. The EU is that way →.

  29. iggie

    I hear from the ABC that Darwin has had a record number of consecutive days over 35C this December.
    So far this amounts to eleven days up to, and including, 13th Dec.

    However in Dec 1931, Darwin had 12 consecutive days of +35C. Bit of an early call, eh?

    In 1892, Darwin had 19 consecutive days over 35C. Darwin PO used a Stevenson Shield back then which was a standard recording unit until 1995 when AWS came into use.

    I can only presume ACORN2 has erased that part of the 1931 record so THEY can proclaim MORE heat records. It’s worse than we thought!

  30. Farmer Gez

    The ABC has turned dog on Chinese use of coal for power generation.
    I nearly drove off the road in the grain truck yesterday listening to the dismay and disbelief in the voice of one of the laydee reporters.
    China is building more coal power generation than all of Europe’s generation put together. What about their commitment to reducing CO2 emissions?
    The dear little fairy penguins of the left might be beginning to suspect that some communist dictatorships tell big fibs to guide the gullible to destroying their own economies whilst they themselves grow stronger.
    How very dare they!

  31. Mark M

    World War II: Battle of the River Plate

    The Battle of the River Plate was fought December 13, 1939, during World War II (1939-1945).

    https://www.thoughtco.com/battle-of-the-river-plate-2361437

  32. Sydney Boy

    Lily Allen DELETES Twitter account after furious anti-Tory rants backfire

    Don’t these stupid bints realize that under Corbin’s proposed socialist agenda they are “the few” from whom he is going to take the money? Or do they think wealth generated from “the arts” is somehow more legit than wealth generated from business?

  33. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The truly amazing thing is that so many Brits think things are going to be much different regardless of who they voted for. They are going to be lied to and screwed over no matter which bunch of thieving, dishonest, deceitful pricks they elect.

    Just like here in Oz, actually. But we keep doing it, over and over.

  34. 132andBush

    47 predicted by weatherzone for Horsham next Friday.

    39 by the “YR” (Norwegian) app.

    Who to believe.

  35. BrettW

    I see at Michael Smith News that Steve Prce will not be returning to 2 GB. Being replaced by Deb Knight.

    2GB certainly changed its line up in past few months. Bolt, Chris Smith and now Price gone. Rita Panahi is good but Deb Knight and John Stanley are fence sitters in relation to their politics. Seems Price was offered something at 9 but turned it down as wouid have had to drop The Project.

    9 have been able to use 2GB for some of their TV talent such as Deb and Karl.

    Hadley’s show is basically him reading court cases with a particular emphasise on those involving underage and country music. Plus there is a lot of stories about people he met 20-30 years ago. Not worth the $4m they are paying him.

  36. BrettW

    Peter/MV,
    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.

    Tell us again who you think should have won the last Oz election. Fraser Anning perhaps ?

    “The truly amazing thing is that so many Brits think things are going to be much different regardless of who they voted for. They are going to be lied to and screwed over no matter which bunch of thieving, dishonest, deceitful pricks they elect.

    Just like here in Oz, actually. But we keep doing it, over and over.”

  37. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Tell us again who you think should have won the last Oz election.
    Fraser Anning perhaps ?

    I didn’t, BrettW. I told you who should lose.
    It is/was the only avenue of protest left to us. The Poms don’t even have that.

    Not that it probably matters anymore.
    Once the grubbymint (yes, our “conservative” grubbymint) finishes clearing the way early in the New Year, the banks can move to negative interest rates and then it’s all over Red Rover.

    And nobody even noticed.

  38. BrettW

    Peter,
    The Poms just told the elites like Blair, Hugh Grant, Lily Allen etc to take a hike and ok’d Boris to get out of the EU cesspit. I note from Daily Mail Macron now wants to be friends with UK again after messing it around over Brexit.

    I don’t know what your alternative was but in reality it was the nut job Corbyn.

    For a bit of a laugh go onto YouTube and look up English comedian Al Murray and his segment on Why Scotland should leave the UK. If like that go on to his show On Nations. Very in PC and no apologies about history from him.

  39. 1735099

    There were no daylight B-52 strikes on Cambodia in the period 1-7 April 1970.

    Says the Midnight Rambler.
    He then quotes from Congressional hearings called to expose the duplicity of an administration that behaved much in the same way as the current skulk of thugs occupying the White House.
    From that same set of hearings, we read –
    “Occasionally, and I think very rarely, there were some tactical air operations when there were military activities on one side of the border……….there were North Vietnamese units that came across the border, and in pursuit of these occasionally, but very rarely, some tactical operations took place.” (Kissinger – p7)

    And –

    “From March 18, 1969, until May 1, 1970, the United States initiated ground operations in Cambodia. 3695 sorties were conducted, dropping 105,837 tons of bombs in Cambodia. MENU OPERATION was terminated on May 26th, 1970. By that time, 4,308 B-52 sorties had dropped 120,578 tons of bombs in Cambodia. Under the procedures instituted for reporting MENU OPERATIONS bombing missions in Cambodia regular operational reports were prepared after each mission indicated that the strikes had taken place in South Vietnam rather than Cambodia. (P6)”

    And –

    “An unspecified number of tactical air bombing strikes were conducted throughout Cambodia, including areas west of the Mekong River, prior to June 30, 1970. These bombing strikes were authorised in situations where there was a serious threat to any major Cambodian position, such as a provincial capital, whose loss would constitute a serious military or psychological threat to the Lon Nol government. (p7)”

    To summarise –
    1. “Tactical” operations took place. Unless the military has changed its terminology since I was a member, “tactical” means an activity planned to gain an immediate military end. Typically, such activity was carried out at short notice and in response to rapidly changing circumstances.
    2. This activity (including both planned and short-term tactical air operations) was under way precisely during the period that I was, as a member of my rifle platoon, at the northern extremity of our AO, some 100 kms as the crow flies from the Cambodian border.
    3. These tactical operations were “authorised” in response to threats to specific locations including provincial capitals.

    There were a couple of strategically important locations in the vicinity, including Svay Rieng, the province capital, and Krong Bavet, an important border crossing.

    Yet the all-knowing, all-seeing Midnight Rambler is so absolutely sure of his perceptions, that he can positively rule out any possibility that I might have heard something that was an exception, a departure, from his fixated orthodoxy. He can conclusively rule out, based on his comprehensive trolling through reports and journals, that absolutely no “unspecified” operation occurred in my vicinity.

    He must be in high demand at seances. Perhaps he attended a seance to establish that the Gaythorne Cinema never existed, or that Doug Gibbons was a Nasho.

    The apparently unimportant fact that I was there, whilst he was securely tucked away somewhere safe and warm, and a long way from the two-way range, has absolutely no bearing on the truth. His quest is simply to smear anything and everything I have written because it is not necessarily the approved and sanitised version of his sunny and correct view of our military history.

    Hence the reference to ANZMI. When I began posting under my regimental number, I had at least three threats from commenters on different sites (Blair, Bolt and Smith) to report me as an imposter, because I wasn’t posting the accepted twaddle.

    It’s the usual boilerplate.

  40. BrettW

    Uh oh, it’s Good Morning Vietnam again.

  41. Porter

    I agree with Arky. Johnson is no Trump. Johannes Leak captures his only redeeming feature, namely, unlike the Stalinist Corbyn, he is not an anti-semite.

  42. 1735099

    Uh oh, it’s Good Morning Vietnam again.

    Take it up with Hazmatic.
    I didn’t introduce the topic.
    My post is simply a response to his on the last open forum.

  43. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    numbers…. hug it out bitch!

  44. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Finnish minister apologises for Instagram poll asking if jihadi brides should be allowed to return from Syria after criticism embarrasses Sanna Marin’s new women-led government

    perhaps if they attached a butt baring selfie it would have been more in keeping with the tone of instagram…

  45. egg_

    late night cat ladies

    The Nonebot’s voice-to-text would be having meltdowns in moderation.

  46. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Genetic ‘clock’ predicts lifespan in animals
    Researchers at CSIRO, Australia’s national science agency, have discovered a simple way to estimate how long a species lives.
    the density of a special type of DNA change, called DNA methylation, determines maximum natural lifespan in vertebrates

  47. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I don’t know what your alternative was but in reality it was the nut job Corbyn.

    As I just said, Brett, the Pommy system doesn’t even give them an avenue of protest. So the end result was a foregone conclusion, regardless of who “won”. Now they will get Brexit, the same way as we got Abbott’s “repeal of the carbon tax”, only to be replaced by an emissions trading scheme, which was the plan right from the start, when Howard introduced the initial enabling legislation in 2007.

    In the UK feelings were running high about being screwed over by the EU. Something had to be done. Not about being screwed over, but about the negative sentiment. So Boris will go through the motions of Brexit, while its actual conditions are quietly replaced by a plethora of other agreements quietly and privately signed behind closed doors in Brussels. Just like our ETS was stitched up by Abbott. Then all the UK sheeple can go back to sleep again.

    I see it happen over and over.

    Meanwhile, while everybody here in Oz has been distracted by that election halfway around the world, our own government has been quietly and secretly laying the groundwork for the biggest financial heist ever perpetrated against the people of any nation, and as I keep repeating, nobody has noticed.

  48. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Finnish minister apologises for Instagram poll asking if jihadi brides should be allowed to return from Syria after criticism embarrasses Sanna Marin’s new women-led government

    perhaps if they attached an ass baring selfie it would have been more in keeping with the tone of instagram…

  49. Twostix

    I’m so pleased toxic old boomer trots like numbers will live to see the full blossoming of the new age of right wing nationalist populism.

    A lifes effort for nothing!

  50. egg_

    Uh oh, it’s Good Morning Vietnam again.

  51. rugbyskier

    47 predicted by weatherzone for Horsham next Friday.

    39 by the “YR” (Norwegian) app.

    Who to believe.

    YR, of course. I used YR to get the forecasts for the various places I was visiting in Chile and Argentina a few years ago and I found that its predictions from around 7 days out were spot on, even down to the time of day it rained in Buenos Aires.

    The weather nerds on the ski forum also seem to rate YR when predicting likely snowfalls for the ski fields during winter.

    I’ve compared the local forecasts for later in the week, Weatherzone is going for 42 on Thursday and YR is going for 39.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    BrettW

    #3261243, posted on December 14, 2019 at 7:10 am

    Peter/MV,
    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.

    Tell us again who you think should have won the last Oz election. Fraser Anning perhaps ?

    It’s a broken record.
    That and “flirting” with old ladies.

  53. classical_hero

    It’s amazing how BOM can get away with removing hot temperatures it doesn’t like. This is from a time when people needed to have exact temperature for many processes and yet are too stupid to be able to accurately read a thermometer. The arrogance is stunning but not brave. Climate change is only happening in the temperature record because of the manipulation of the da

  54. Twostix

    I can’t decide if in twenty years when we’re the establishment, whether we’ll purposefully remember these disgusting globalist bugmen, their lickspittles and the hellish vision they had for the everyman, or just erase them and the current time from the anglo collective memory.

    I mean technically this has just been a blip in time – the failure of one generation really.

  55. MatrixTransform

    I didn’t introduce the topic.

    The Numptard has done the research and determined that the bastards on this forum just wont stop talking about Vietnam.

    Of course, another subject on which he’s an expert.

    I bet he’s trying new Saturday calculus to work out why that particular subject keeps coming up.

    to be expected though… after all it is the Cat

  56. classical_hero

    The 2nd Payne was good. It describes the left at the moment and yet in some countries it’s winning.

  57. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    It’s a broken record.
    That and “flirting” with old ladies.

    Yeah.
    A broken record that’s going to laugh every day, when you’re paying a fee for YOUR own wages to go into the bank, paying a fee to withdraw YOUR own money from the bank, and paying 4% interest on YOUR own money while it sits in the bank. You, and your children, and your children’s children.

    Yes, it will be be a billion laughs.
    Several billion in fact.
    Every year.
    Forever.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone who suggests there is a cigarette paper between BoJo and Corbyn has been asleep at the wheel.

  59. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    .
    .

    This aversion bordering on hatred to nuclear in Aus. is irrational. Maybe those older or with better memory can enlighten us of the origin of it?

    <I think the opposition to Nuclear power dates back to the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in the UK(formed in 1957)
    The CND proposed that the UK should give up its nuclear weapons, and then the USSR would, hopefully, give up their bombs.
    Massive demonstrations, rallies, media campaigns etc etc to try and achieve the aims of the CND morphed into a "Nothing Nuclear" which we have to this day.

    The CND was founded by three prominent UK leftists, Bertrand Russell, Fenner Brockway, John Collins.

  60. egg_

    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.

    It takes a good dose of Labo(u)r to restore the balance to normality.

  61. cohenite

    Abfuckingc heatwave hysteria:

    Perth is enduring an unprecedented heatwave for December, with the city expected to hover close to 40 degrees Celsius for four consecutive days until Sunday.

    Trove:

    Most intense December heat
    wave, however, was in 1899, when
    successive readings commencing on
    December 11 were 93.4, 100.2, 100.8,
    104.5, 104.6 and 100.8.

  62. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Movement.

    CND has been at the forefront of the peace movement in both Ireland and Britain, and remains Europe’s largest single-issue peace campaign. But its founding figures could not have imagined in 1958 that it would still be campaigning in 2008.

    Growing up in the 1950s and the 1960s, I was part of a generation that had its fears confirmed by the Cuban missile crisis, for which CND’s logo was an indispensable accessory, and the slogan “Ban the Bomb” was a mantra on every protest march and demonstration.

    Public fears about nuclear weapons emerged in Britain in the mid-1950s when the government revealed plans to build its own hydrogen bomb. When JB Priestley wrote an article in the New Statesman on November 2nd, 1957, “Britain and the Nuclear Bombs”, attacking Aneurin Bevan for abandoning his policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament, the weekly magazine received an avalanche of supporting letters.

  63. mem

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/fed-minister-blasts-irrational-nsw-mp/news-story/c2f8a0c2cb004c844431d734c0186f60
    Note there is also an exclusive story in Telegraph about Michael Photious’s wife getting to the NSW Minister to promote renewables. She is very green and making a mozza out of Green energy and the subsidies as well as being married to the Liberal power broker who behind the scenes seems to pull a lot of Liberal party strings.

  64. Twostix

    I’m pleased that burns has taken on Foleau. Cuck fags like bolt and the IPA that have deliberately ignored his and NSW’s organised persecution of Gaynor can’t ignore this.

  65. mh

    DENIERS OF DEMOCRACY Angry protesters clash with cops in ugly scenes near Downing Street despite Boris Johnson’s historic election win

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10549353/protesters-clash-police-downing-street-boris-johnson/

  66. egg_

    Perth is enduring an unprecedented heatwave for December, with the city expected to hover close to 40 degrees Celsius for four consecutive days until Sunday.

    Oh noes!
    Clutch the pearls, Doctors Wives might be having fainting spells!

  67. Twostix

    100% lock that the NSW Anti-Discrimination Board won’t dare find against Foleau – despite it being clear cut compared to Gaynor and other cases they’ve ruled on. Proving that it and its contemporaries are political star chambers used only to terrorise the working class everyman who speaks his mind.

    When we get control of these institutions we won’t forget who did what.

  68. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    She is very green and making a mozza out of Green energy and the subsidies as well as being married to the Liberal power broker who behind the scenes seems to pull a lot of Liberal party strings.

    To all intents and purposes the Liberal Party is owned and controlled by a small handful of very well heeled families based in Sydney and Melbourne.

  69. mem

    This seems extraordinary.Pakistan has levelled treason charges against 250 lawyers who have been part of a mob that stormed a hospital in the eastern city of Lahore yesterday, leaving three patients dead and others injured.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-13/pakistan-charges-250-lawyers-for-treason-in-hospital-assault/11795254

  70. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Proving that it and its contemporaries are political star chambers used only to terrorise the working class everyman who speaks his mind.

    Factcheck = True.

    When we get control of these institutions we won’t forget who did what.

    Don’t hold your breath,

  71. Porter

    Real Mark Latham

    @RealMarkLatham

    Four months ago I approached NSW Attorney General Speakman asking him to end serial, vexatious, politically-motivated matters being dealt with by NSW Anti-Discrimination Board at huge public expense. He did nothing. Now the nutters at NSW ADB have put The Bible on trial!!

    6:58 AM · Dec 14, 2019·Twitter Web App

  72. Mater

    47 predicted by weatherzone for Horsham next Friday.

    132andBush,
    Their specialist site has the top temp as 45.6 at around 1700 next Friday (it has predicts
    Ions in one hour blocks).
    The error bars on that prediction go from 41 to 49 at the moment. The predicted temp will adjust according to whatever weather model is holding truest as the day approaches and the error bars will tighten.
    Let’s keep track and see how they go – an interesting experiment. I happily post a daily update around this time for the next week.
    I have a fair amount of faith in weatherzone, given previous experience, but even they wouldn’t claim infallibility 7 days out. I would go it on a limb and wager that they are more accurate than the 39.

  73. cohenite

    Bongino, one of the great investigative reporters, having fun with the timelines in the IG report and the wapo and nyt defence of the swamp. The swamp claiming it wasn’t the steele dossier which got the ball rolling but silk stocking downer’s email. But the evidence is plain in the IG report footnotes that the dossier was and remains the beginning and the entirety of this crap:

    https://videos.whatfinger.com/2019/12/13/how-did-the-media-miss-this-explosive-footnote-in-the-ig-report/

  74. Boambee John

    Twostix
    #3261278, posted on December 14, 2019 at 8:47 am
    I’m pleased that burns has taken on Foleau. Cuck fags like bolt and the IPA that have deliberately ignored his and NSW’s organised persecution of Gaynor can’t ignore this.

    When Izzy appears before the NSW Thought Police, his lawyer should quote the relevant passages from the Koran, and ask the tribunal for its considered views on those passages.

  75. 8th Dan

    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.

    Do tell how he would have done so.

  76. struth

    As I just said, Brett, the Pommy system doesn’t even give them an avenue of protest.

    Bullshit.
    They just did and it worked.
    And if Boris doesn’t perform, Nigel will step up, or somebody will, however the surrendering of their nation to a foreign power by traitorous elites has been halted, and the message has been sent loud and clear.
    Due to first past the post and non compulsory voting they have a much better protest vote than we do.

    This landslide victory was the ordinary British people , Labour and Tory , demanding their sovereignty back so as to take back control of their own destiny.

    I believe too, that Boris is no Trump and he personally , will not deliver Brexit, but some half arsed deal nobody voted for, and so the saga will continue.
    But the message from the people has been brutal and forthright.
    And it has for now, stopped the surrendering of a great nation to outside (or internal) socialist control, and that should be applauded, but not in MV’s sour grapes outlook.
    However, the power the EU has today, is very much less than it had yesterday, and with Britain’s lead, other countries will follow, those that have tractors in their thousands driving through their capitals and riots in the streets all unreported, will demand at the very least, more autonomy.

    The lie of a “trading union” that has it’s own flag and armed forces and imposes it’s undemocratic laws on to sovereign nations, enabled by undemocratic traitors, has been laughed at by a people who have called out the arseholes pushing it, for the arrogant fools they are, in thinking no one will see what it really is.

    This is an election where the people have spoken loud and clear.
    Boris better not stuff it up (oh but he will) because this election hasn’t been the electorate asking for Brexit.
    They’ve given these pricks an order.

    It’s democracy, and it is a beautiful thing to see.
    We all have to continue to fight for democracy and freedom, and Boris will most likely be a let down, however, today , in Britain, the people have reminded these complete dead shit arseholes who is in charge.
    It’s beautiful.

  77. thefrollickingmole

    1735099
    #3261252, posted on December 14, 2019 at 7:56 am
    Uh oh, it’s Good Morning Vietnam again.

    Take it up with Hazmatic.
    I didn’t introduce the topic.
    My post is simply a response to his on the last open forum.

    Hands up everyone who thinks that Bobstains the wardog would have chosen any other topic to have brought up regardless of Hazmatics post?

    Im pretty sure Bobstains previous monomania was masturbation, but he actually wore it off.

  78. egg_

    Mater
    #3261286, posted on December 14, 2019 at 9:05 am

    Weatherzone’s predictions for Sydney Olympic Park last Summer were consistently 2-3 degrees too high, as related in this Blog at the time – in line with the BoM – Weather.com were usually spot on (i.e. 2-3 degrees lower) – NOT Rocket Science and ludicrous politically motivated inflation of expectations.

  79. MatrixTransform

    another 1/8 clue zinger

  80. JB above. Yes, the CND movement was sparked as you have described. Their hope that the USSR would follow suit was recklessly naive at best. CND policies were calculated to assist the USSR to catch up and exceed the USA. Through their foreign lackeys such as the Australian Communist Party, the USSR pushed the CND line for many years.

  81. Porter

    The NSW ADB will find against Folau. There has been a a clear precedent-setting agenda being prosecuted by the NSW ADB over the past 4 years. Those precedents are easy to set against nobodies like grandmothers and men with brain injuries who can’t fight back. Those precedents have already been cited in cases brought against the Daily Telegraph. The NSW ADB will use those same precedents to find against Folau. A lawyer who represented the serial complainant in a previous case before the ADB (which the serial complainant hoped would effectively ban the Bible) also represented Rugby Australia in Folau’s COC hearing. Albrechtsen – no fan of Folau but at least a champion of free speech – had the integrity to call out the potential conflict of interest there. Expect some similar incestuous revelations in this case. This has been going on for years all under the state Liberal government’s watch and without any scrutiny by the media. Speakman is well aware of it and has done nothing. Mark Latham’s interest may change that.

  82. mh

    Tom
    #3261206, posted on December 14, 2019 at 4:46 am
    Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

    😄

  83. struth

    Do tell how he would have done so.

    Jeeeeeesus C man, go and do some homework.
    Look at the policies.
    How the hell can you be so thick as to ask that question here.
    Haven’t you looked at the policies of Communist Corbyn?

  84. mh

    2dogs
    #3261296, posted on December 14, 2019 at 9:23 am
    Nasty.

    Corn Pop meets Greta.

  85. Geriatric Mayfly

    I have a fair amount of faith in weatherzone, given previous experience, but even they wouldn’t claim infallibility 7 days out. I would go it on a limb and wager that they are more accurate than the 39.

    It’s a good reference point Mater, but it was owned by the defunct Fairfax empire. The side bar news always concentrates on heat and its attendant perils, wherever they be.

  86. thefrollickingmole

    More tears for the salt mines.

    protesters chanted: “Boris Johnson, not my prime minister.”

    Growing calls for electoral reform after vote share per party is revealed

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Roberts-Smith war crimes defamation case: ‘witness wasn’t there’

    Exclusive
    Paul Maley
    NATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR
    @paul_maley
    10:41PM December 13, 2019

    An Afghan National Army soldier said to have been present when Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith allegedly ­ordered the execution of an unarmed civilian was not in the village when the supposed war crime occurred, a court has heard.

    Lawyers for Mr Roberts-Smith told the Federal Court that one of the conspirators in the alleged 2012 murder of Ali Jan was not on the SAS-led mission to the village of Darwan on September 11, 2012 — the date when the murder is said to have taken place.

    The claim, if proven, is a major blow to The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times, which are being sued by Mr Roberts-Smith over a series of 2018 articles that he claims portray him as a war criminal, a bully and an abuser of women.

    At the heart of the allegations is the claim that on September 11, 2012, Mr Roberts-Smith took a bound Afghan civilian from a prisoner holding area and kicked him over a small cliff during a mission to Darwan, in Afghanistan’s Oruzgan province.

    Along with four soldiers under his command, codenamed in court documents as “Person 4, Person 11, a member of the Afghan partner force, Person 12, and an interpreter, Person 13’’, Mr Roberts-Smith is then said to have walked to the bottom of the cliff and directed one of them to kill Ali Jan, which he did.

    However, on Wednesday Bruce McClintock SC said one of the soldiers that the Nine newspapers claimed was present — Person 12, the Afghan National Army soldier — was not in the village.

    “I might also say this … (Person 12), in fact, had been detached from the SAS at least a month before this and wasn’t actually in Darwan,’’ Mr McClintock said.

    The hearing set the scene for what is likely to be one of the biggest defamation trials in decades, with both sides giving glimpses of evidence they will offer when the case goes to trial in June.

    As part of its defence, Nine newspapers have alleged that Mr Roberts-Smith participated in six unlawful killings during his time as an SAS operator in Afghanistan, conduct that they say proves he was a war criminal.

    Mr Roberts-Smith denies the allegations. One of those alleged killings is said to have occurred on the same day Mr Roberts-Smith ­allegedly kicked Ali Jan over the cliff.

    According to the newspapers, it occurred earlier in the day after Mr Roberts-Smith pursued a man across the Helmand River then shot him while he was hiding in a bank of rocks. In the defence documents filed in the Federal Court, Nine newspapers said the man was unarmed and Mr Roberts-Smith could have taken him into custody.

    “In these circumstances, the applicant’s conduct with respect to Afghan Male 5 constituted murder,’’ the media company said in court documents.

    However, Mr Robert-Smith’s legal team said the man was a Taliban soldier who was armed with an AK-47 and foreign-made detonators of a type not before seen in that part of Afghanistan, both of which were recovered. Mr McClintock said the rifle recovered from the Taliban soldier was pierced with a bullet fired by Mr Roberts-Smith and put on display at the patrol room in Tarin Kowt. “We have photographs,’’ he said.

    From the Oz.

  88. Major Elvis Newton

    Price and Greenwood out at NineFaxMaq.

    The conservative purge of Australian media continues….

  89. dover_beach

    What has been allowed to happen to Gaynor is a gross injustice. That it has occurred and attracted so little interest on the right side of politics is a disgrace, but it is instructive.

  90. Will the temp on Friday (>36C) be enough to trash the power system in Viktoristan?
    All that food stocked up in freezers/fridges for Christmas. What joy!

  91. Mater

    Weatherzone’s predictions for Sydney Olympic Park last Summer were consistently 2-3 degrees too high, as related in this Blog at the time – in line with the BoM – Weather.com

    Be that as it may, egg, because they give hour by hour predictions, and are consistently the most accurate, most of the big industries which live or die by the accuracy of their information, pay handsomely for their services.
    Weatherzone, as a company, also lives or dies by quality of its product (as opposed to the BOM). It has a motivating effect. Pile up all the political motivations you like, they can’t white wash the temperature on the day and the impact that has at the coal face of these critical businesses. If they weren’t good (especially within the 24 hours out band), they wouldn’t exist.

    Let’s trace of history of Horsham as it approaches, and see the result. You may be right, but I’m willing to chance my arm.

  92. Mater

    So to lay down the bench mark, Weatherzone predictions in Horsham:

    1500 hrs – 44.8
    1600 hrs – 45.3
    1700 hrs – 45.6
    1800 hrs – 44.7

    Error bar – 41-49 currently

    Now just to clarify, that predicted top of 47 MAY occur between any of these hourly predictions as the worm turns on its way back down.

  93. Infidel Tiger

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky
    I’m hearing Tory insiders are already working on plans for a far more radical Budget than the one implied by the manifesto. Likely to be in Feb or Mar, post Brexit. More capital spending, esp ex-London. Policies designed in part for the new non-traditional Tory voters
    5:45 AM · Dec 14, 2019·Tweetbot for Mac

    Great stuff.

    Nation building stuff. London can get bent.

  94. jo

    8th Dan
    #3261291, posted on December 14, 2019 at 9:17 am

    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.

    Do tell how he would have done so.

    By giving air to complete tossers like yourself. Corbyn would have been shot for being a traitor once. Time to reinstate that.

  95. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    At times the resistance to all things nuclear in this country is made very clear.

    About seven or eight years ago one of the US Battle Fleets stopped at Brisbane. This included a nuclear powered aircraft carrier, and it was openly reported that some of the escort fleet were armed with nuclear tipped missiles. Some of the ships were going to be open for inspection over the weekend, and much was made of the expected “major protests”.

    On the Saturday morning by 9.30 am, on every radio and TV station, they were beseeching people not to go into Brisbane. There were already an estimated two million people queued up to see the ships, and hundreds more cars full of families arriving every minute. Brisbane was in total gridlock.

    That night on the TV it was the main story. Men, women, children – entire families waiting for their turn, lined up in all directions, as far as the eye could see.

    A camera in a helicopter zoomed in for a close up of the spectacle. And there, in one little corner, huddled together, were about twenty protesters.

    And that folks, is the true extent of the “anti-nuclear” movement in Australia.

  96. Peter Rainne

    Can you send us a postal address?
    Pete.

  97. Geriatric Mayfly

    More tears for the salt mines.
    protesters chanted: “Boris Johnson, not my prime minister.”

    As they swarm out of their squats and bedsits, surprised that Hitler has not entered the equation as yet.

  98. 8th Dan

    The Tories are now the party of the working class.

    Probably not. Cold, winter Thursday election. Voter turnout down 2%, most likely because fewer working class people were able to vote.

  99. Snoopy

    Bangladeshi man gets clonked on the head with a spade. Climate change is fingered as a culprit.

    We have surprisingly little empirical evidence of how social, psychological, financial, geographical, and political factors contribute to conflict, and how climate change interacts with them. We need much more diverse and interdisciplinary research to better understand how to protect vulnerable people from both conflict and climate change.

    Arenas such as COP25, the latest iteration of the UN’s annual climate change summit, have the capacity to advance these research efforts. Our children recognise the urgency and are demanding that we look at the science. It is time to listen.
    Sonja Ayeb-Karlsson
    Senior Researcher, Institute for Environment and Human Security, United Nations University

    Ka-ching!

    From TheirConversation. Of course.

  100. Infidel Tiger

    George Monbiot
    @GeorgeMonbiot
    We have each other. No one needs to face this setback alone. We are the resistance now.
    7:22 AM · Dec 13, 2019·Twitter Web App

    This really is a cracking time to be alive. So many loons with megaphones.

  101. Professer Fred Lenin

    Australian manufacturers whose product need large amounts of reliable electricity are advised to move to,Third World countries which have a reliable 24/7 power supply . Probably coal generated using Australian coal mined by a Chinese owned company.
    Regulations in these countries is very small ,taxes are lower and the authorities help with everything you need they actually want you therev,labour is cheaper and unions non existant. You can export to Australia esily under the u.n. Globalist laws on free trade . Whats not too love ,reliable production ,less regulation,lower taxes ,more committed workforce gratefull for a job and no union communist interference its a no brainer not to do it .
    Another thing you will be saving the world for our grand children ,and making gaia happy

  102. Infidel Tiger

    The working class have come home to the Conservatives.

    Any betrayal of their natural constituents must be harshly dealt with. All Whigs and Libs to The Tower.

  103. cohenite

    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.
    Do tell how he would have done so.

    He would have cut off everyone’s dick so they were all like you.

  104. 8th Dan

    Corbyn would have been shot for being a traitor once.

    Care to state your evidence for that?

  105. Roger

    We have each other. No one needs to face this setback alone. We are the resistance now.

    Steady on, George; at least Boris is a renewables enthusiast.

  106. Porter
    #3261299, posted on December 14, 2019 at 9:24 am

    The NSW ADB will find against Folau.

    …and Folau can appeal to a court with Federal jurisdiction because the findings woulod be contrary to our rights we have under the ICCPR and ICESR.

  107. Care to state your evidence for that?

    He’s the mirror image of the Norsefire guy.

    …but no, treason is a very specific crime with very specific fault elements.

  108. Roger

    Growing calls for electoral reform after vote share per party is revealed

    They’ll only be satisfied with a one party state.

  109. Bruce of Newcastle
    #3261232, posted on December 14, 2019 at 6:33 am

    Wah!!!

    Lily Allen DELETES Twitter account after furious anti-Tory rants backfire

    She not happy.

    It’s not fair and I think you’re really mean
    I wanted to hear her scream

  110. Infidel Tiger

    In a better time, Dan would have been shot too.

    One can only hope a return to those times isn’t far away.

  111. roger

    The left will oppose whatever system Boris Johnson won with.

    FPP – we need IRV
    IRV – we need PR
    PR – we need an electoral college
    EC – we need FPP

    “Give them sortition and let the gods sort them out!”

  112. “Mark my words, Mr Folau is about to cop a dose of third-degree Burns,” Mr Burns said in a statement.

    These are not the words of a model litigant.

  113. 8th Dan

    In a better time, Dan …

    In a better time, Dam would be in charge of terminating the French submarines contract. He’d be willing to pay around half a Billion to save much more. Has previously done so.

  114. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Lawyers for Mr Roberts-Smith told the Federal Court that one of the conspirators in the alleged 2012 murder of Ali Jan was not on the SAS-led mission to the village of Darwan on September 11, 2012 — the date when the murder is said to have taken place.

    pocs like wiminsis must always be beliebed

  115. Roger

    They’ll only be satisfied with a one party state.

    ABC news analysis last night:

    ‘Labour’s policies couldn’t gain traction against Boris’s simple message.’

    That is to say the UK electorate is too dumb to know what’s good for them.

    With the exception of the Scots – UK bureau chief Samantha Hawley even relegated Boris to second fiddle in order to praise the SNP results – who voted for a form of national socialism.

  116. Lawyers for Mr Roberts-Smith told the Federal Court that one of the conspirators in the alleged 2012 murder of Ali Jan was not on the SAS-led mission to the village of Darwan on September 11, 2012 — the date when the murder is said to have taken place.

    Charge all the corroborating prosecution witnesses with making false statements and perjury.

    Salt the land, scorch the earth, cut their hearts out with spoons and cancel Christmas!

  117. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You do realise the only alternative to Boris was Corbyn right ? Corbyn would have destroyed the UK.

    Do tell how he would have done so.

    8th kyu, sounds like you would more at home in beijing…. scoot

  118. We need a razor gangster in Canberra with this sort of moxie, BoJo would do well with this sort of bastard knocking stupid ideas on their head:

  119. The ALP has been using UK Labour’s electioneering strategies for decades.
    Pray that they copy the Corbyn campaign.

  120. egg_

    Let’s trace of history of Horsham as it approaches, and see the result. You may be right, but I’m willing to chance my arm.

    It’s difficult to lie about the hourly reading; when daily maximum temperatures climb into the 30s, BoM and Weatherzone consistently predict on the high side, which suits the political agenda – e.g. unheard of temperatures such as 45C for Penrith which are never reached – Richmond was Sydney’s former hot/cold spot, but Penrith must now suffer from the urban heat island effect.
    Fauxfacts says it all.

  121. 8th Dan

    C’mon jo, a tosser like yourself should be able to find some evidence of Corbyn’s treason. Let’s see what you have.

  122. egg_

    most of the big industries which live or die by the accuracy of their information

    Doh!
    We’ve been on about this since Blair’s – concrete pours, etc. out in the weather.
    The BoM is a travesty.
    Any (overloaded) exploding transformers in Vic last Summer?

  123. Forget the hourly temperature readings.
    The only thing that matters is CO2. Let’s have hourly CO2 readings!

  124. resistance to all things nuclear

    Some navies are nuclear powered.
    When are we converting ours to wind power?

  125. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #3261370, posted on December 14, 2019 at 10:32 am
    Forget the hourly temperature readings.
    The only thing that matters is CO2. Let’s have hourly CO2 readings!

    Those who are concerned about CO2 should stop exhaling. This will stop all their worries.

  126. Top Ender

    The reason Australia doesn’t go nuclear is both major parties are too cowardly to take it to an election.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    82nd anniversary of the start of the infamous “Nanking Massacre.”

  128. Forecast for next Friday.

    Loy Yang to shut down.

  129. egg_

    https://www.weatherzone.com.au/vic/wimmera/horsham

    27C today, agrees with Weather.com.
    I’d prefer Sydney than the boondocks, but I’ll wager that even in the boondocks they’ll push from the high 30s just to reach the grand 40C mark where possible, error bars or no.

  130. Porter

    Rambler, I think it’s time they recycled John Mcternan back to Australian Labor. His losing record is impeccable and he probably needs a job. Again.
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/88199/watch-arch-blairite-john-mcternan-joins-momentum

  131. Mater

    27C today, agrees with Weather.com.

    Egg,
    weather.com predicts a max of 42 for Horsham on Friday. I’ll include Weather.com in the experiment.
    That’s still 3 degree more than YR is predicting.

  132. My electricity retailer has informed me of a 2c to 3c rise in the price per kwh as of Jan 1.
    Renewable subsidies at work.
    I note with interest that the rise is not far away from what was the Hazelwood production cost.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    Nicholas Kristof
    @NickKristof
    Six decades ago, China was suffering the worst famine in world history. Today, it’s suffering from obesity and a surge in diabetes.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NickKristof/status/1205532973161996288

    They stole our IP, we gave them diabetes. Don’t ever fuck with us again, you Chicom turds.

  134. thefrollickingmole

    1/8th of a penis needs to use google.
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/03/jeremy-corbyn-has-a-soft-spot-for-extremists-ira-hamas-hezbollah-britain-labour/

    This is someone who accepted money from Iran to present on the government-affiliated channel Press TV and who invited Linda Quigley and Gerry MacLochlainn, both convicted of activity connected to the Irish Republican Army, to Parliament just two weeks after the IRA had killed five people and almost assassinated the British prime minister in the 1984 Brighton bombing.

    Then, there is his long-held contempt for NATO and his admiration of far-left revolutionaries such as Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez (reflected in the advisors and political allies closest to him, who include a self-identified Marxist, a decades-long member of the British Communist Party, and a defender of Joseph Stalin).

    Just as disqualifying—though less remarked upon—is Corbyn’s attitude toward Islamist extremism. Take the most egregious example: the Islamic State. Corbyn does not long for the creation of a caliphate or imposition of sharia. However, he can only bring himself to condemn the Islamic State if, in the same breath, he lambasts what he sees as the other side of the coin: Western imperialists.

    Then, three days after al Qaeda’s suicide bombings in London in July 2005, Corbyn spoke at a Stop the War Coalition rally in the city to stress the reason that civilians there were being blown up on trains and buses was “because of the way we inflict an insecurity on so many other people around the world. We have to be very clear about that.”

    It is a favorite Corbyn theme. At another Stop the War rally (before becoming leader of the Labour Party, attending Stop the War rallies constituted a significant part of Corbyn’s life), he said the Islamic State’s beheading of Alan Henning, a British aid worker, was “the price of jingoism.”

  135. egg_

    weather.com predicts a max of 42 for Horsham on Friday.

    Weatherzone says 47C with 60% chance of rain* (1-5mm).
    *When?
    At the 3pm daily maximum?
    Or will rainfall cut that down?

  136. stackja

    NSW coast shrouded in dust and smoke November 1944
    Jo Nova
    Whole of NSW coast shrouded in dust and smoke, 47C in Hunter Valley (75 years ago)
    This week 75 years ago. Dust storms, bush fires and unbelievable heat across New South Wales. 118 fahrenheit is 47 degrees C, and there were 100+ temperatures in many places. The sun appearred as a “red sky”. A dust storm created a “terror” in Mildura (just like last week in 2019).

  137. egg_

    Weatherzone says above 40C Wed thru Fri in the boondocks.
    Weather.com has Thu at 39C.

  138. 8th Dan

    Weatherzone, as a company, also lives or dies by quality of its product (as opposed to the BOM).

    Weatherzone – About Us:

    The Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) supplies weather information and The Weather Company converts this information into computer ready data, specialised forecasts, TV or web ready graphics and scripts.

    Where does our weather information come from?:

    Weatherzone’s Opticast forecast system utilises realtime observations from the Bureau of Meteorology

    Weather content provided by Weatherzone is based on content sourced from the following organisations:
    •Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM)

    Use your belt for a tourniquet (no, not around your neck), and call triple zero … ask for an ambulance.

  139. stackja

    Clashes erupt in Delhi; Abe cancels visit
    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has cancelled a visit to India as students clash with police in Delhi over a controversial new citizenship law.
    Devjyot Ghoshal and Adnan Abidi, Reuters
    December 14, 2019 2:16am

    Violent clashes have erupted in Delhi between police and hundreds of university students over the enactment of a new citizenship law that critics say undermines India’s secular foundations.

    The unrest has already led Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to cancel a planned visit to India on Sunday.

    The new law offers a way to Indian citizenship for six minority religious groups from neighbouring Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan – including Hindus and Christians, but not Muslims.

    Police fired tear gas and used baton charges to disperse scores of students demonstrating at Jamia Millia Islamia university in the heart of Delhi on Friday.

  140. egg_

    1/8th of a penis needs to use google.

    It probably can’t reach the keyboard.

  141. Roger

    Oh, the ironing:

    The favoured contender to replace Corbyn as UK Labour leader, Keir Starmer, led the charge for a second Brexit referendum.

    Mate, you’ve just had your second referendum. What say ye now?

  142. Dr Faustus

    With the exception of the Scots – UK bureau chief Samantha Hawley even relegated Boris to second fiddle in order to praise the SNP results – who voted for a form of national socialism.

    The SNP picked up 48 out of 59 Scottish seats, with 45% of the total Scottish vote (3.9% of the National vote). So, malaportionment.

    This is uncannily close to the 45% of Scots who voted for independence in the 2014 referendum.
    But nonetheless is now viewed as a clear mandate for IndyRef02.

  143. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Eddie Obeid freed from Sydney jail

    Elias Visontay
    Reporter
    @EliasVisontay
    45 minutes ago December 14, 2019

    Disgraced former NSW minister Eddie Obeid has walked out of a Sydney prison on parole for misconduct in public office.

    The 76-year-old former ALP powerbroker emerged from Silverwater Correctional Complex on Saturday morning after his non-parole period expired.

    Sporting a black cap and long-sleeved shirt and carrying a box of possessions under his arm, Obeid was chaperoned by authorities as he got into a waiting Kia SUV.

    The former minister for Mineral Resources and Fisheries was sentenced to five years in prison in December 2016 after being found guilty of misconduct in public office between August and November 2007.

    From the Oz.

  144. Farmer Gez

    I’m really pissed off with the whole socialist fantasy of ATAR scoring.
    My daughter has had her marks brutalised by being in a small school with kids whose Mummies insist they do VCE. Barely literate maths science boys have had their scores upped by my daughters efforts whilst her score is dropped.
    To top it off, one of her last assessment tasks was given a C+ even though it was marked an A+. She achieved a good score that will get her into her course at Uni comfortably but how the hell is it fair. It stinks of Marxist levelling down.

  145. stackja

    stackja
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Reuters in the naughty corner?

  146. Johno

    The smoke and haze has knocked my solar downloads about, I was averaging in the low 70KWH a day,this week it is down to an average of 62KWH per day. I take a reading every saturday morning.

  147. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    It stinks of Marxist levelling down.

    You mean like Tony bbott’s “fairness tax”?

  148. Cardimona

    Areff

    Thanks for the reply yesterday – #3260013, posted on December 13, 2019 at 8:02 am

    I just sent this follow-up enquiry…

    [email protected]

    A further question about your pottery collection

    G’day again

    Just a quick follow up question as I’m a little confused.

    I enquired about your pre-1788 aboriginal pottery collection.
    You replied that pottery and ceramics in the NMA collections post-dates 1788 so we have none on display.

    But my mate heard from you that you do hold several collections of indigenous potteries with other collections coming into the Museum’s collection and display spaces soon.

    I’ve been following Bruce Pascoe’s work with interest.
    I’d love it if some of my western NSW forebears were skilled farmers.
    But I’ve never heard of any remnants of fitted-stone pest-resistant granaries being found.
    I know from experience that no unsawn timber granary could have been effective.
    There was no Australian equivalent of Felis catus to control rodents.
    So there must have been pottery for storing grain.
    Every settled agricultural society invented pottery.

    So … are you telling me that no pre-1788 aboriginal pottery has ever been collected?
    Or … it has been collected but the NMA just doesn’t have any?
    If it’s just that the NMA doesn’t have any, can you please tell me who does?

    Thanking you in anticipation.
    (Cardimona)

  149. Mater

    Weatherzone’s Opticast forecast system utilises realtime observations from the Bureau of Meteorology

    So WeatherZone takes the current weather conditions from the publicly funded weather stations and then applies it’s own forecasting methodology? Yes, it does, and it’s predictions are usually different.

    You have no idea what you are talking about, Dan. Google can’t provide all the answers, try as you might.

  150. Roger

    This is uncannily close to the 45% of Scots who voted for independence in the 2014 referendum.
    But nonetheless is now viewed as a clear mandate for IndyRef02.

    Bring it on!

  151. Snoopy

    Wow! This is huge!

    This small German town took back the power – and went fully renewable

    With just wind and solar. Apparently.

    What a pity TheirConversation couldn’t be bothered to provide any information on how the magic works.

    It’s all in the governance. Possibly.

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    New choo choo:

    Tel Aviv – Jerusalem railway to commence operations on December 21

    More than a decade overdue, the high-speed railway connecting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem is expected to welcome its first passengers next Saturday evening, December 21.

    While no official announcement has yet been made by Israel Railways, online schedules show the first direct train departing Tel Aviv’s Hahagana Station at 9:56 p.m., arriving at Jerusalem Yitzhak Navon Station 34 minutes later.

    If only Paul had that option when Festus wanted to send him to Jerusalem.

  153. Knuckle Dragger

    Once again, we see that actors and ‘artists’ with loads of cash given to them by the public for their questionable talent seem to believe that the art of saying or singing things somebody else thought of makes them experts on national security and foreign policy.

    And once again, we see them rudely woken up to the undisputable facts that they are merely clothes horses who could easily be replicated by CGI in this day and age, and that their opinions on matters outside their field of expertise are irrelevant.

    So, eat a very large Aldi special bag of dicks, Hugh Grant and Lily Allen. Foppish twats the pair of them, who would have been first up against the wall and shot had Corbyn’s revolution come.

  154. Infidel Tiger

    The Scots must be completely delusional if they think Europe will pay for another mendicant State.

    Every Scot should rise of a morn and get on bended knee to thank an Englishman.

    They are a disgraceful and ungrateful nation.

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Growing calls for electoral reform after vote share per party is revealed.

    “Growing calls”.
    C.L.’s favourite phrase.
    This could mean “sore losers whinge”.
    Note the use of the word “revealed”, as if this was something that was deliberately hidden and had to be exposed.
    Tell me.
    How have they factored in the impact of, say, a prefential system with Farage running hard in all seats?

  156. Dr Faustus

    Sporting a black cap and long-sleeved shirt and carrying a box of possessions under his arm, Obeid was chaperoned by authorities as he got into a waiting Kia SUV.

    And round to Krispy’s for a cuppa and a chat about the released ALP offender’s remuneration rehabilitation scheme.

  157. egg_

    What is Opticast?
    Opticast is an automated forecasting system designed to produce detailed forecasts for specific times of each day. The system works by taking forecasts from a range of computer models and comparing them with past observations to produce the most accurate possible forecast possible, tailored to a specific location where weather observations are taken.

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    struth, earlier:

    ‘It’s democracy, and it is a beautiful thing to see.
    We all have to continue to fight for democracy and freedom, and Boris will most likely be a let down, however, today , in Britain, the people have reminded these complete dead shit arseholes who is in charge.
    It’s beautiful.’

    The elites may and might redouble their efforts, but that’s okay. It’s what they do. The silent majority just became the slightly louder majority, which should (but it won’t) let them know that the family manor at Butttington-on-Tyne is not central to world events.

  159. dover_beach

    Adrian Vermeule on twitter:

    In any country, when the party of the intellectuals gets crushed, one is treated to a pyrotechnic display of rationalization, cognitive self-protection, fear and hatred of the proles dressed up in therapeutic garb – in short, entertainment for even the most jaded cynic.

    This is very heaven, indeed.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    The SNP picked up 48 out of 59 Scottish seats, with 45% of the total Scottish vote (3.9% of the National vote). So, malaportionment.

    This is uncannily close to the 45% of Scots who voted for independence in the 2014 referendum.
    But nonetheless is now viewed as a clear mandate for IndyRef02.

    In simple terms the SNP gains were almost entirely pinched from Labour.
    The conclusion which should be drawn is that the Scottish vote has not moved one iota.
    Just that a bunch of former Labour voters found Jermy’s left lunacy a bridge too far and went SNP.
    And that is saying something for feral Scots.

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They are a disgraceful and ungrateful nation.

    They can distill drinkable whisky, which is more then the Irish and Yanks can do.

  162. Dr Faustus

    Growing calls for electoral reform after vote share per party is revealed.

    Tragic UK watchers all know this shock horror revelation happens 12 hours after every election.
    A true goldfish-meets-treasure-chest moment.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    The Scots are a bunch of freckly feckless dress wearing ranga layabouts who can’t hold their licquor

  164. Mater

    Thank you, egg.
    Dan, take note.

  165. Some History

    The Guardian doing some Greta™ PR

    Michelle Obama sends Greta Thunberg message of support after Trump tweet

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/13/michelle-obama-greta-thunberg-message-support-trump

    At the bottom of the article is this –

    As the climate crisis escalates…
    … the Guardian will not stay quiet. This is our pledge: we will continue to give global heating, wildlife extinction and pollution the urgent attention and prominence they demand. The Guardian recognises the climate emergency as the defining issue of our times.
    You’ve read 19 articles in the last two months. We chose a different approach: to keep Guardian journalism open for all. We don’t have a paywall because we believe everyone deserves access to factual information, regardless of where they live or what they can afford to pay.
    Our editorial independence means we are free to investigate and challenge inaction by those in power. We will inform our readers about threats to the environment based on scientific facts, not driven by commercial or political interests. And we have made several important changes to our style guide to ensure the language we use accurately reflects the environmental catastrophe.
    The Guardian believes that the problems we face on the climate crisis are systemic and that fundamental societal change is needed. We will keep reporting on the efforts of individuals and communities around the world who are fearlessly taking a stand for future generations and the preservation of human life on earth. We want their stories to inspire hope. We will also report back on our own progress as an organisation, as we take important steps to address our impact on the environment.
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  166. Infidel Tiger

    They can distill drinkable whisky, which is more then the Irish and Yanks can do.

    It’s okay with coke.

    I prefer bourbon and rum.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    They can distill drinkable whisky, which is more then the Irish and Yanks can do.

    Pity they can’t drink more than a thimble full of it without head-butting their grandmothers and wives.
    Terrible pasty, freckly rangas.

  168. Knuckle Dragger

    The Poms should ditch Scotland. The most valuable thing about it is the deepwater harbour at Scapa Flow.

    Scotland is like the brother-in-law who rocks over to your place every six months or so with his hand out. Yes I’ve got a job, he says. Yes I pay some of my bills, he says. Yes I’ve got a nice house, he says.

    But I’ve spent all my readies on the pokies, he says. Again?, I say. Afraid so, he says, but this will be the last time, he says. Six hundred should do the job, or maybe a gorilla, he says.

    So you dig into the black ops account your bride doesn’t know about, and give the stupid prick some cash knowing full well he’ll be back in a couple of months with the same tale of woe. Or you could tell him to get fucked but then the wife would find out, and then she’d find out about the black ops account so you’d be twice as fucked.

    You consider telling Scotland to go ask his old girlfriend (France) to help him out, and then you end up saying fuck it and live with the short term pain until next time.

  169. Dr Faustus

    I prefer bourbon and rum.

    Horrible mixture.
    Rum and creme de menthe for the discerning palate.

  170. feelthebern

    I can’t wait for the Scots to reap what they’ve sown.
    I don’t drink Scotch so the place has zero redeeming features as far as I’m concerned.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Scots must be completely delusional if they think Europe will pay for another mendicant State.

    Th EU have already told Scotland to get nicked several times.
    They’re not dumb.
    Why would you want to replace a large cash cow with a small mendicant state?

    Scottish independence: Barroso says joining EU would be ‘difficult’ (Feb 2014)

    Scotland is told it won’t be able to stay in the EU after Brexit (Jun 2016)

    EU says independent Scotland would not have automatic right to become new member (Mar 2017)

    Scots, though, keep trying the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome.

  172. Tom

    Price and Greenwood out at NineFaxMaq.

    The conservative purge of Australian media continues….

    Price is not a “conservative”. His primary job (unaffected by his sacking from 2GB) is as a star on The Project — commercial TV’s megaphone for public service communists.

  173. feelthebern

    The SNP party meeting.

  174. Bruce of Newcastle

    Support The Guardian from as little as €1 – and it only takes a minute. Thank you.

    When I want fiction or fantasy I buy it from Amazon.

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    The Auld Alliance will never be renewed.

    Its entire existence for centuries was based on the premise that the French had a potential interest in claiming the English crown, or at the very least distracting the Poms from getting hold of the French one.

    No more French crown. No more Auld Alliance. Sorry Scottish punters. Concentrate on this year’s thistle crop and we’ll talk later.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Glasgow effect

    The dish of the day these days in Glasgow is muesli in a black bag.
    Won’t do much for life expectancies either.

  177. Geriatric Mayfly

    This accompanies the obscure images from the Whakatane camera, which has a bead on White Island.
    Seeing it’s pretty pointless, I fear the intrusion of a Mizzzzz Adern.

    Our sympathies are with those families affected by the Whakaari/White Island eruption. While rescue and response operations are underway, we are suspending the broadcast of our webcams on the volcano and removing the images of the moments before the eruption. Thank you for your understanding.

  178. Roger

    Scots, though, keep trying the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome.

    Only 45% of them, to be fair. The majority are quite happy with the Union (as they should be – they get a good deal).

    As Faustus pointed out, on that front nothing has changed since the 2014 independence referendum.

  179. 1735099

    It stinks of Marxism levelling down.

    It definitely stinks, but has nothing to do with Marxism.
    It is a product of an economic rationalist approach to education driven by raw politics attempting a crude measurement of the unmeasurable.
    The pollies like to be seen as “doing something about education”.
    The only people with the capacity to do that are teachers.
    If they were paid according to their contribution to the National good (which would bring their income somewhere comparable with the medical profession) educational outcomes would begin to resemble those in countries like Finland, where the profession is valued.
    It comes from the same place as NAPLAN, and every other contemporary attempt at standardised measurement of educational outcomes, including PISA.
    As Einstein once quipped – “Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything can be counted counts”.

  180. Fisky

    I can’t decide if in twenty years when we’re the establishment, whether we’ll purposefully remember these disgusting globalist bugmen, their lickspittles and the hellish vision they had for the everyman, or just erase them and the current time from the anglo collective memory.

    I mean technically this has just been a blip in time – the failure of one generation really.

    Option C – we actively pursue and persecute every last one of them.

  181. Fisky

    If they were paid according to their contribution to the National good (which would bring their income somewhere comparable with the medical profession) educational outcomes would begin to resemble those in countries like Finland, where the profession is valued.

    You mean we’d be collapsing down the PISA ranking at the same rate as Finland is?? I hope not!

  182. Option C is good.

    The left needs to be attacked systemically and financially ruined.

  183. Professer Fred Lenin

    The heat this coming week will be a test of the ability of the government interfering in the power system to please their globalist carpetbagger mates like turnbull etc . In Victoria it could see the beginnings of the destruction of the Andrews government ,the people wont forgive them if the aircon and freezers dont work due to them letting the rentseeking AGL Mob close Hazelwood . They will all be alp voters till the power runs out ,even their gangrene allies will desert them when the soy latte runs out and the iphones run out of battery power .
    Unfortunately we dont have a liberal or national party in Victoria , or if we do the media doesnt talk to them , A bit like SA which hasnt had a state government since weatherill got the flick .
    You can walk all over the people politically lie ,cheat and rip them off but look out if the aircon dont work

  184. Bubbles

    I am saddened by the FB agony of our elitist Hampshire friends. Their anti-Brexit passion is almost scary. Two sons in the City and Allison in Dubai don’t you know. We must fight for them.
    These folk are not drooling upper class idiots, they are educated, experienced and worldly. How can they possibly not understand that voting for a 19 century Bolshi in order to stop Brexit will not only put Jeremy, Marc and Allison out of work, but will also wipe out their inheritance.
    We bight our tongues. Talking about it leads to uncharacteristic TDR-like venom.

  185. Leigh Lowe

    Brits south of Hadrian’s wall wanting to be independent of Europe … dirty, filthy, xenophobic racist bigots.
    Brits north of Hadrian’s wall wanting to be independent of the South … a fiercely independent people determined to forge their way in the world and preserve their proud cultural heritage.

  186. lotocoti

    The Wee Krankies’ People’s Republic is no joking matter.
    Or is it?

  187. 8th Dan

    Thank you, egg.
    Dan, take note.

    Yes, well googled, egg. Will have to get you a tour guiding leaflet drops.

    But … I already knew about Opticast and its “computer models”. They are how, when I want information for Heathcote, Weatherzone gives me the information for Campbelltown.

    Far more accurate than the BoM source.

  188. Bruce of Newcastle

    but has nothing to do with Marxism.

    It never has anything to do with Marxism because no one has yet managed to do Marxism correctly.

    Someone eventually will do Marxism properly and utopia will manifest on Earth, with dancing unicorns and Gaia sprinkling her holy juice on all the enlightened proles.

    Meanwhile try not to be a zoo animal in any of the next few attempts at true Marxism.

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘If they were paid according to their contribution to the National good (which would bring their income somewhere comparable with the medical profession) educational outcomes would begin to resemble those in countries like Finland, where the profession is valued.’

    If teachers concentrated on actually teaching, instead of ramming every social justice brain fart from obese pink-haired lesbians and noodle-armed man-bunned organic cotton-wearing pointy shoe having omega males down unsuspecting kiddies’ throats, they might indeed be valued.

    As it is, the parents who actually give a fuck about their kids spend an inordinate amount of time ‘unlearning’ them. As it is, by the time they’re 13 they’ve identified this nonsense for what it is but go along with it because it makes their day easier.

  190. Geriatric Mayfly

    a fiercely independent people determined to forge their way in the world and preserve their proud cultural heritage.

    Only as long as they are subsidised.

  191. cohenite

    The UK tabloid press having the best time spanking former-PM, Huge Grunt:
    Hugh’s sorry now? The moment crestfallen arch-Remainer Grant saw exit poll announcing huge Tory majority – as Corbyn’s celebrity fans weep into their almond milk lattes
    Hugh Grant HUMILIATED: Moment luvvie actor learned of Corbyn’s historic loss
    The King of RomCom not quite as wise as Sir Anthony Hopkins.
    [Divine Brown was unavailable for comment.]

    Back in the day after Hughie’s mugshots (and those of the girl with a dick he was plugging; and vice versa) I thought there’s no hope for this fuckwit; and I was right.

  192. mh

    The Welsh continue to be solid Brexiters.

    Most Welsh would have some contact with the farming community I expect, which could be the difference between them and the Scots.

  193. cohenite

    Speaking of dicks where they shouldn’t be, this from troll 1:

    It is a product of an economic rationalist approach to education driven by raw politics attempting a crude measurement of the unmeasurable.
    The pollies like to be seen as “doing something about education”.
    The only people with the capacity to do that are teachers.

    I think it really believes this; and that is why these people must be regarded as part of life’s challenge.

  194. Leigh Lowe

    Puh-lease.
    Mzzz Sturgeon doesn’t want Ranga Independence.
    She will make a long career out of whipping up the Maccas and shaking her fists at Westminster, but secretly hoping it goes nowhere.

  195. Back in the day after Hughie’s mugshots (and those of the girl with a dick he was plugging; and vice versa) I thought there’s no hope for this fuckwit; and I was right.

    Comparing a photo of Liz Hurley (at the time his official root) with that of Devine Brown… well… certainly left you wondering about him.

  196. Is Sinc issuing participation certificates for 2019?

    I need to update my CV.

  197. lotocoti

    If they were paid according to their contribution …

    Or why garbage collectors should be paid more than brain surgeons.

  198. Infidel Tiger

    Option C – we actively pursue and persecute every last one of them.

    Public show trials.

    Trebuchets.

  199. zyconoclast

    2dogs
    #3261276, posted on December 14, 2019 at 8:46 am
    The Tories are now the party of the working class.

    Who they will continue to screw over with fake Brexit, unlimited third world immigration and increased taxes.

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    In ‘ermagherd feckin terrible’ news, from the Hun:

    ‘A young woman who became infamous for beating up a pensioner at a Geelong bus stop earlier this year has died after suffering a massive seizure. Cori Glencross was just 23 when she died suddenly late last month, following an epileptic fit.’

    This monstrously obese drug addict, which fired her epilepsy all the wrong ways anyway had a friend film her beating the suitcase out of a stick-thin 75 year old lady with a walking stick and one of those walker things you put your groceries in at said bus stop, and then (naturally) put in on soshul meeja.

    Had a solid docket in any event, mostly for Earth-B#lling her way through crowded areas, fighting with various punters then suddenly becoming a misunderstood victim when inevitably collared.

    Mumsy says the dead fat skank was now ‘living with her’, ie for free after being booted out of her own place, and ‘hoped to pursue a career in hospitality’. Aspiring door bitch, then.

    I feel sorry for her. Oh – no I don’t. I feel sorry for the undertakers and the cops tasked with squishing that monumental carcass out the front door and into the meat wagon. Good fucking riddance, I say. We’re all better off.

  201. Infidel Tiger

    The untold story from yesterday’s election is that not only are the working class back home where they belong in the bosom of The Conservatives, but Britons of Indian descent are voting blue.

    Same as Australia. Tradies and migrants believe in family values.

    Hyper individualism and neoliberalism are evil and anathema to a functional society.

  202. feelthebern

    She will make a long career out of whipping up the Maccas and shaking her fists at Westminster, but secretly hoping it goes nowhere.

    Exactly.
    Like Democrat’s trying to “help” African-Americans.

  203. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Comparing a photo of Liz Hurley (at the time his official root)’

    No wonder Hurley ended up with Shane Warne. Anything would be several rungs up from that mincing foppish stick insect.

  204. thefrollickingmole

    driven by raw politics attempting a crude measurement of the unmeasurable.

    1/10, standard boilerplate special pleading, must try harder to bring some spark of life or originality to their argument.

    There are few things more measurable in life that the results of a test in mathematics.
    Go on, make a convincing case that math results are unquantifiable or unreliable.

  205. “Hyper individualism” and (progressive) neoliberalism aren’t even concomitant.

  206. zyconoclast

    The Poms should ditch Scotland. The most valuable thing about it is the deepwater harbour at Scapa Flow.

    Rebuild Hadrian’s wall x 10

  207. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How the Nazis found solace in cyanide: Thousands of ordinary citizens took their own lives rather than face the shame of retribution after Hitler was defeated

    From the Daily Mail. The timing of the article is pure coincidence, I’m sure.

  208. Infidel Tiger

    We will be a society that talks of our responsibilities, not our rights.

    Libertarians are in for a very tough time. They might even have to get jobs in the private sector. That will be hard for them, but we must rehabilitate their wicked minds.

  209. Entropy

    I took out a monthly subscription to weatherzone yesterday.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    Adolph will be turning in his grave now that his man Jeremy has copped a whacking.

  211. IT believes the fat middle aged lesbian communists in the NDIS fiefdom are “libertarians”.

    Okay champ.

    Time for your nap.

  212. Tel

    The Poms should ditch Scotland.

    If England made a mutually acceptable agreement to leave the UK they would automatically be out of the EU and the seat of UK government could move to Glasgow. That way the Scotts could keep themselves in the EU, Wales could do who the heck cares, and Northern Ireland could figure themselves out.

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