“Obama likes Suleimani, and admires his work”

This is from 2015: Obama Strikes a Deal–With Qassem Suleimani. It’s by Lee Smith from the Hudson Institute.

According to the terms of the Iran deal announced in Vienna on Tuesday, U.N. Security Council sanctions regarding nuclear-related issues will be lifted on a number of entities and individuals—from Iranian banks to Lebanese assassins, like Anis Nacacche. The name that most sticks out is IRGC-Quds Force commander Qassem Suleimani. Administration officials counsel calm, and explain that Suleimani is still on the U.S. terror list and will remain on the terror list. But that’s irrelevant. The reality is that Suleimani is the key to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

It is all incredible, but this is extraordinary.

Obama likes Suleimani, and admires his work. As the president reportedly told a group of Arab officials in May, the Arabs “need to learn from Iran’s example.”

In fact, they need to take a page out of the playbook of the Qods Force — by which [Obama] meant developing their own local proxies capable of going toe-to-toe with Iran’s agents and defeating them. The president seemed to marvel at the fact that from Hezbollah to the Houthis to the Iraqi militias, Iran has such a deep bench of effective proxies willing to advance its interests. Where, he asked, are their equivalent on the Sunni side? Why, he wanted to know in particular, have the Saudis and their partners not been able to cultivate enough Yemenis to carry the burden of the fight against the Houthis? The Arabs, Obama suggested, badly need to develop a toolbox that goes beyond the brute force of direct intervention. Instead, they need to, be subtler, sneakier, more effective — well, just more like Iran.

Is it stupidity, incompetence or duplicity? Who can tell, but we should be very grateful it is gone for now. With foreign policy such a low-grade issue to at least half the American population, you never know who they will elect for president next. In the meantime, we have to hope they keep the one they now have for the next four years.

But where you will never unravel any of these questions is by reading the daily papers or watching the ABC. This is from the Australian Financial Review today, with this the heading in the paper, but not online: Trump scraps Obama legacy. This is the sub-head in the paper, but again, not the one used online.

“In confronting Iran, the president, driven by a desire to trash his predecessor’s foreign policy record, is determined to prove himself a superior commander-in-chief.”

And in the very middle of the page, the inset quote reads:

“I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to say the root of much of this is Obama envy.”

It would be nice if these people would stick to foreign policy and lay off the pop-psychology. For what it’s worth, in my view Obama was the worst president in American history, both for domestic and foreign policy. Anyone who cannot at least understand why someone might come to this conclusion should be prevented from commenting on current events.

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65 Responses to “Obama likes Suleimani, and admires his work”

  1. stackja

    BO seemed very trusting!

  2. Old Woman of the North

    Agree re Obama – dreadful. Undermined America every chance he got.

  3. mh

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism

    Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

    When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.
    “I think that some of it will end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists,” he said in the interview in Davos, referring to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps. “You know, to some degree, I’m not going to sit here and tell you that every component of that can be prevented.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

  4. a happy little debunker

    The fact is that Barrack Hussein Obama, Ugly Joe Biden & Hillary Insane Clinton funnelled material support to terrorism.

    They killed Gaddafi, destabilised Libya, restarted the African slave trade, created a humanitarian crisis resulting in millions of peoples invading the EU and enabled ISIS via their terror contacts with Iran.

    In any other world they would find themselves in Guantanamo Bay.

  5. Cassie of Sydney

    ““Obama likes Suleimani, and admires his work”

    Of course…I doubt that Obama has ever met an anti-Semite that he didn’t like. Remember his mentors….Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright and Al Sharpton,…and that’s just a start.

  6. Lee

    “In confronting Iran, the president, driven by a desire to trash his predecessor’s foreign policy record, is determined to prove himself a superior commander-in-chief.”

    What a sick joke.

    Obama didn’t need any help to trash his own foreign policy.

    He did it all himself.

    It takes very little to imagine the furore that would have erupted if the U.S. Benghazi embassy siege and murders happened on PDT’s watch.

    Admittedly, Hillary Clinton must accept a lot of the blame, but that doesn’t absolve Obama, nor his getting off almost scot-free from the media.

  7. mh

    They killed Gaddafi, destabilised Libya, restarted the African slave trade,

    There was actually a black genocide in Libya following the Hillary-led overthrow of Gaddafi.

    Noice, Bazza.

  8. PB

    Did the AJC drop you these talking points?

  9. If the Democrats win the next election, the US is over.

  10. Cassie of Sydney

    “PB
    #3284945, posted on January 7, 2020 at 6:02 pm
    Did the AJC drop you these talking points?”

    Sniff….sniff….anti-Semite.

  11. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3284949, posted on January 7, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    What’s the AJC?”

    I reckon we have a good old fashioned Jooo hater who has popped in to blame American Jooos….AJC – American Jooooish Congress.

  12. PB
    #3284945, posted on January 7, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    Did the AJC drop you these talking points?

    If you hate juice, you can always get some kosher cream cheese.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3284951, posted on January 7, 2020 at 6:06 pm
    Oh.

    Bugger off then.”

    Always polite my darling Calli……I’m a lot blunter…..

    Fuck off then.

  14. Not sure where the bit about Obama liked him comes from but I don’t see the issue with how he admired his work in the context above. He is using him as an example to the enemies of Iran and saying where is your version of him and his organisation.

    This is similar to somebody on the Allied side in WW2 admiring Rommel’s work.

    I am sorry but the title above reminds me of Fake News.

  15. Robbo

    Obama liking and trusting that Iranian murderer. That doesn’t come as a surprise. Obama was always a stupid tosser who talked up a storm but didn’t have the brains or the spine to come even close to being a competent POTUS. He conned millions of gullible Americans to vote for him and while they thought they were electing a good guy it was the complete opposite they got. He let down those who trusted him, created massive unemployment and enormous debt. Americans flirted with socialists when it elected Obama and despite the fact he is no longer in office he still slithers around like a poisonous snake encouraging the raving left wing Democrat ratbags in Congresss to do as much damage as they can to the USA. Obama will be remembered as one of the worst, most incompetent and treacherous Presidents in US history.

  16. Docket62

    I cant see any valid reason not to reduce Iran and Iraq to smoking radioactive ruins.

  17. mareeS

    Like having a quiet little chat with Vladimir.

  18. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    obama was a crypto-shiite, courtesy of his dad

  19. Bruce

    Anyone remember anything about the Pre-1979 Iranian government having an AUTHORIZED set-up to print US currency.

    Heaven knows who would have thought that was a good idea. Certainly reduced risks involved in shipping pallets of the stuff there, from the other side of the globe.Then, there would be the traditional “spillage”.

    It was apparently some sort of aid deal.

    Any chance Khomeni’s Krazies would not have twigged to the enormous value of such a facility and sought to make it all their own in the war against the Great Satan and humanity in general?

    I understood that they subsequently hired world-class “plate-makers” to produce an expanded range of notes. Remember this is industrial-scale, continuous-sheet printing, not some basement operation knocking out bogus notes, one at a time.

    You could buy a LOT of “honest politicians” with that stuff. Not only that, but suitably inserted into various national economies, it could bend the markets and the exchange rates something chronic.

    Then, there are the “interesting’ technological links between Iran and China / North Korea. missile and nuclear goodies figure prominently. That may have led to the extensive “links” between Iraq and the Soviets. Interesting that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in 1979; the same year the Shah was toppled.

    Bear in mind, also, that for a long time before all that happened, China and the Pakis were doing a lot more than playing Mah Jong. Meanwhile, India was canoodling with the Soviet bear, as a way of playing the US and UK against each other in that part of the world. The soviets had been “cultivating” numerous Arab countries in the Middle East, to go to war with Israel several times, as a way of tying up US / NATO attention in the Eastern Mediterranean. Hungary was crushed in 1956 whilst the western world tut-tutted about Aden. See also what went on globally in 1968, you know, the year the soviets gave the Czechs a bit of a flogging.

    Interesting times, indeed; probably LOTS more to come; oh joy!

  20. Derp

    Nope, no valid reason. Off you go then.
    Oh, you don’t have the required equipment?
    Just as well.

  21. calli

    There I was, trying to work out what horse racing had to do with Iranian foreign policy.

  22. Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer

    While one can be in distrust of the devil (to say the least) one can still be in awe of his cleverness and cunning approach to things. Some would say “the good guys” could borrow something of that to achieve good outcomes.

  23. Chris M

    Where, he asked, are their equivalent on the Sunni side?

    Barry claimed to want some pushback, ergo now he is now a Trump fan!

  24. Peter Duell

    There may be some confusion here. ISIS was the disease. The General was the cure.

  25. Mother Lode

    I think it was Obama’s ego. Very susceptible to flattery and with a naïveté that allows other people to play him for an utter fool.

    In any situation he thought himself the smartest person in the room, convinced that not only was he thinking far ahead of the people he was meeting, but secure on the conviction that any idea that did not cross his mind certainly won’t have occurred to them.

    And remember that startling insight into his character, as he told his speech writers how brilliant he was at their jobs and that if he had become a speech writer he would have run rings around the lot of them.

    So he goes to meeting, they tell him how special he is, memorise a few anecdotes about him, let him prattle on about himself and feign astonishment at his mastery of every situation. All the pomp, all the dinners, the ranks of soldiers at attention, shaking hands with people that are in the newspaper – he would be grinning inside like a simple child who suddenly finds themself surrounded by applauding adults.

    How else could he have thought that, having had navy personnel abducted and humiliated on TV, rescinding sanctions that had contained Iranian nuclear ambitions ang gifting them pallets of cash to be a success?

  26. Entropy

    BrettW
    #3284964, posted on January 7, 2020 at 6:22 pm
    Not sure where the bit about Obama liked him comes from but I don’t see the issue with how he admired his work in the context above. He is using him as an example to the enemies of Iran and saying where is your version of him and his organisation.

    This is similar to somebody on the Allied side in WW2 admiring Rommel’s work

    Sorta agree with the principle but your analogies are appalling.

  27. Entropy

    Also: was Obama actually worse than Carter?

  28. Tom

    And yet, since 90% of the the American news media is now the activist wing of the Democratic Party, it’s only four years after Obama left office we learn Obama was not only in the tank for the mad Iranian mullahs, but their military enforcers like Suleimani.

    The Obama presidency has so poisoned the Democratic Party it has decided democratic elections no longer matter and it will try to win the 2020 election by impeaching Trump and swinging so far left it’s unelectable.

    And the media is so far in the tank for the Dems it will be shocked when it is proven yet again it is totally incompetent as a source of public information and the Dems are thrashed in November.
    .

  29. Tom

    Bird now supporting the Ayatollah.

    Doomlord! Clean up required in aisle three.

  30. jupes

    This is similar to somebody on the Allied side in WW2 admiring Rommel’s work.

    Except the Allies didn’t deliver the Nazis pallet loads of cash.

  31. Bar Beach Swimmer

    In any situation he thought himself the smartest person in the room, convinced that not only was he thinking far ahead of the people he was meeting, but secure on the conviction that any idea that did not cross his mind certainly won’t have occurred to them.

    Kevin Rudd?

  32. Iampeter

    For what it’s worth, in my view Obama was the worst president in American history, both for domestic and foreign policy.

    That makes no sense. You support Donald Trump.

  33. stackja

    Petering out still angry.

  34. Iampeter

    I’m amused by how many clueless leftists there are on what is meant to be a right wing blog. I’m not angry.
    Reading the Cat is like reading The Onion. It’s just a parody. It makes you laugh, not angry.

  35. JohnJJJ

    Solly was probably ‘delivered’ to the US by Ayatollah Ali. He was getting too popular in Iran and Iraq and therefore a threat to Sayyid Ali Hosseini Khamenei. This is how the game is played. Easy way to get rid of your enemies.

  36. custard

    Happy nails it again

    happy little debunker
    #3284932, posted on January 7, 2020 at 5:49 pm
    The fact is that Barrack Hussein Obama, Ugly Joe Biden & Hillary Insane Clinton funnelled material support to terrorism.

    They killed Gaddafi, destabilised Libya, restarted the African slave trade, created a humanitarian crisis resulting in millions of peoples invading the EU and enabled ISIS via their terror contacts with Iran.

    In any other world they would find themselves in Guantanamo Bay.

  37. John Stankevicius

    Dear Happy and Bruce
    I never understood why Hillsry got rid of Gadaffi or Bashir. Could you please explain. Also the slave trade comment

  38. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Entropy at 8:04 pm:

    “Also: was Obama actually worse than Carter?”

    Jimmy Carter didn’t despise white America, nor was he a servant of the medieval death cult hidden in plain view.

  39. Zatara

    Anyone remember anything about the Pre-1979 Iranian government having an AUTHORIZED set-up to print US currency.

    No.

    But that’s probably because it never happened (except on ‘The A Team’)..

  40. Mother Lode

    Kevin Rudd?

    Li’l Kevni was less secure in his egotism.

    He will have wanted to enter Obama’s orbit just to hear Obama compliment him. That was the little niggling doubt that Krudd wished done away with. An itch only one other person could scratch.

    Obama had no such doubt. He did not need anyone else to tell him how brilliant he was, how popular he was, and how destined to usher in a new age he was.

    No one recalls the Krudd years with any enthusiasm. And Obama is reduced to a cypher, only occasionally referred to as it is, only deriving meaning from the context of describing Trump as departing from Obama – not the virtue of Obama himself. The pallets of cash, the bowing to Middle-Eastern monarchs, the wars this Nobel Peace Prize winner let drag on, the mushrooming of Federal power (even over wheel-washes on farms), and even his signature Obamacare.

    What a yammering buffoon.

  41. Iampeter
    #3285236, posted on January 7, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    I’m amused by how many clueless leftists there are on what is meant to be a right wing blog. I’m not angry.
    Reading the Cat is like reading The Onion. It’s just a parody. It makes you laugh, not angry.

    If you were genuine at all you’d offer an opinion as to alternatives to Trump’s so far excellent foreign and military policy.

    You can’t and won’t because you’re an establishment & deep state loving misanthrope, lunar green leftist etc LARPing as a Rand loving conservative.

  42. OldOzzie

    Putting Paid to Appeasement
    Editorial of The New York Sun | January 6, 2020

    That was quick. The first positive consequence of the slaying of Iran’s terror master, General Soleimani, came with the announcement Sunday by Iran that it is withdrawing from the nuclear deal it struck with the Obama administration. It puts paid to a pact that was opposed “overwhelmingly,” as the New York Times put it, by our own Congress. President Obama used the United Nations to try to bind the U.S. even though he was aware that the Congress was against it.

    Tehran’s announcement Sunday puts the lie to any illusion that it had peaceable intentions. Insofar as America is concerned, the articles of appeasement, as we tend to call the Iran deal, had been a dead letter since 2016. That’s when the 30 states that decided our election chose, in Donald Trump, the candidate who vowed to withdraw from the pact. Criticism of the deal focused on details — the transfer to Iran of vast sums, say, or the lack of a permanent prohibition on an Iranian A-bomb.

  43. OldOzzie

    The Greatness Agenda
    Americans Will Rally Around Trump on Iran

    The overwhelming majority of Americans will support the president—the Democrats have put their head in a noose while standing over a trap-door. The consequences are predictable.
    Conrad Black – January 6th, 2020

  44. OldOzzie

    Soleimani dead, but ‘America First’ very much alive

    President Trump did not get elected to spark a war with Iran.
    Nor was he elected to use American blood, sweat and treasure to fix the hopelessly broken Middle East. Not since 9/11 has a nominee from either party run a campaign with such a clear, forceful and credible promise to roll up America’s far-flung foreign entanglements. It is one of the chief reasons Mr. Trump won the 2016 election.

    That said, watching the full-blown hysterics out of Washington over the past few days reveals just how wildly delusional the Trump-haters have become.

  45. OldOzzie

    Further

    The idea that a festering theocratic dump in the sand of the Middle East poses greater immediate threat to regular Americans than the blood cartels and human body traffickers next door in Mexico is mind-boggling.

    And this obsession with nation-building in countries no decent American could locate on a world map while utterly ignoring the Byzantine federal bureaucracy that has held back our own economy for decades is downright immoral.

    Mr. Trump is the first president since Ronald Reagan to come along and realize all this. And he is unapologetic about it, which really drives his opponents in both parties completely out of their minds.

    But none of these “America First” principles that make up the Trump Doctrine have anything to do with Mr. Trump’s decision last week to order the drone strike that killed Qassem Soleimani, the powerful military leader of Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

    One of the big problems with getting deeply entangled all around the world is that it is very hard to withdraw — especially after you have just finished killing a bunch of them. You never want to turn your back on these people, even if your intent is peace.

    So we are deeply entangled in Iraq, a place Mr. Trump and many Americans would dearly like to depart. Along comes Iran, which launches an attack on our embassy compound in Baghdad, ordered by this thug Soleimani.

    What on God’s green Earth is Mr. Trump supposed to do in response to such an attack?

    Write a check for more than $1 billion and give it to the mullahs? Send a plane under the cover of darkness carrying pallets of $400 million in unmarked cash for the ayatollah? Wipe out effective sanctions so that Soleimani might sow even more terrorism around the world?

    Well, that is precisely what the previous administration did. But not Mr. Trump. Instead, he killed the thug.
    And good riddance.

    Now, let’s get back to the business of disentangling ourselves from Iraq and the rest of that God-forsaken, barren land.

    But don’t forget: Never turn your back to them while you’re walking out and never take your finger off the trigger.

  46. OldOzzie

    Surprisingly New York Times

    Tehran’s overrated military strategist made many political miscalculations
    Suleimani squandered Tehran’s chances with focus on proxies and imperial frontiers

    Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 17:56 – Thomas Friedman

    One day they may name a street after President Donald Trump in Tehran. Why? Because Trump just ordered the assassination of possibly the dumbest man in Iran and the most overrated strategist in the Middle East: Maj Gen Qassem Suleimani.

    Think of the miscalculations this guy made. In 2015, the US and the major European powers agreed to lift virtually all their sanctions on Iran, many dating back to 1979, in return for Iran halting its nuclear weapons programme for a mere 15 years but still maintaining the right to have a peaceful nuclear programme. It was a great deal for Iran. Its economy grew by over 12 per cent the next year. And what did Suleimani do with that windfall?

    He and Iran’s supreme leader launched an aggressive regional imperial project that made Iran and its proxies the de facto controlling power in Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad and Sanaa. This freaked out US allies in the Sunni Arab world and Israel, and they prevailed on the Trump administration to respond by tearing up the nuclear deal and imposing oil sanctions on Iran that have now shrunk the Iranian economy by almost 10 per cent and sent unemployment to more that 16 per cent.

    All that for the pleasure of saying that Tehran can call the shots in Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad and Sanaa. What exactly was second prize?

  47. OldOzzie

    Real Clear Politics – I Faced Soleimani’s Forces; Dems Are Mourning a War Criminal

    As someone who went toe-to-toe with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) in Afghanistan, I can assure you that Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani got exactly what he deserved when he perished in a U.S. drone strike. What he certainly doesn’t deserve is praise from Democrat lawmakers who would rather mourn a war criminal than credit President Trump for making the world safer.

    As the leader of the IRGC’s Quds Force, which has been designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. government, Soleimani was among America’s most vociferous and aggressive foes. He was personally responsible for the deaths of thousands, including the killing and maiming of hundreds of American soldiers. He was an evil, remorseless man, and his death is a positive development for the entire world — including his own country.

    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, however, is currently considering a resolution that labels the strike that killed Soleimani “provocative and disproportionate,” and even seeks to curtail the president’s ability to respond to future Iranian aggression. Death, no matter the manner it is dealt to a terrorist who has planned and engaged in the murder of Americans, is never “disproportionate” — it is necessary.

  48. Hieronymous

    “Why was it necessary to kill this guy and to kill him now and to exacerbate the military issues, given the fact that President Trump looks to us as someone who’s not trigger happy?” Mr. Bannon said, paraphrasing a question he said he was hearing from independent voters.

    “That still has to be explained,” Mr. Bannon continued. “I don’t know if it’s the president addressing the nation. I don’t know if it’s the president getting on ‘Fox & Friends.’ But clearly, at some point in time, the president’s got to walk through not just what his logic was, but also where he wants to take this.”

  49. OldOzzie

    The Democratic media hate Trump more than they love Iran — or America

    Only the ignorant or bad-faith actors would jump to the conclusion that Trump is about to bomb Iran’s mosques

    Soleimani, TIME says, was a ‘general’ and ‘a top military leader in Iran’, who was ‘called a terrorist’ by President Trump — which is to say, not a terrorist in the opinion of TIME and the decent people who read it, but a terrorist in the opinion of the warmongering white supremacist who has launched forever-war after forever-war since stealing the 2016 election. Soleimani, Warren said after repeated questioning, is ‘of course…part of a group that our Federal government has designated as terrorist’ — which is to say, not a terrorist in her opinion, because she wants to win the Democratic presidential nomination and because she is quite possibly so morally impaired that she can’t bring herself to call any enemy of her country a terrorist, but a terrorist in someone else’s opinion, probably the opinion of people who believe that she claimed to be of Cherokee descent, and allowed others to claim it without correcting them, just so she could work the affirmative action system to her advantage.

    These failures of nerve and honesty on the subject of Soleimani are uncannily similar to the failures of the New York Times and the Associated Press. The Times’s Farnaz Fassihi, who attended Soleimani’s funeral, reported that even the mullahs’ opponents were calling Soleimani a ‘national hero’ and quoted a student who claimed to have slept better at night knowing that Soleimani was ‘out there’. The student didn’t say whether Soleimani was at his most comforting when he was organizing killings ‘out there’ in Iraq or Lebanon or Yemen or Syria. Of course Fassihi didn’t ask him, or note that people who live under dictatorships tend to mouth the official line to foreign journalists.

    Nothing in Trump’s tweets suggested he is now mulling over a target list of UNESCO sites. He described the targets as ‘important to Iran & the Iranian culture’. Trump’s idea of culture is a wet T-shirt contest followed by a burger. These elementary pleasures of Western life are denied to the people of religion-blighted Iran, who instead must endure the entertainments offered by the Telecommunications Company of Iran.

  50. OldOzzie

    Fox News Trump team’s Iran strategy – Pompeo lays out ‘confront and contain’ vs underwrite and appease

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo gave new insight on Tuesday morning on what’s been sorely missing in the US-Iran confrontation: the US strategy.

    “We put Iran in a place it’s never been before,” Pompeo said.

    The Obama administration chose to underwrite and appease. “We chose to confront and contain,” Pompeo said. What a contrast.

  51. Bruce

    Not the “A” team. Not even the “B” Ark.

    After making a few inquiries, the events seem to be as follows:

    In the late sixties or early seventies, The US (CIA?) provided the Shah of Iran with a set of a perfect printing plates that could reproduce US $100 bills without blemish. Also delivered was an intaglio printing press. This piece of kit ensures that the etched plates meet the paper with sufficient force to form the distinctive embossed feel of a genuine banknote.

    In addition, the correct ink and banknote quality paper were delivered.. The Shah later fled Iran and the whole setup was left to the Mullahs.

    Remember Oliver North and “Iran – Contra”?

    There is also link here. Part of that deal involved “acquiring” several pallets of bogus bills from Iran and creatively depositing them in Pablo Escobar’s bank. The next part of the caper was selling the Iranians spare parts for a lot of their US-built military hardware, for which the Iranians paid, in cash; i.e., the REAL money sent to buy the bogus stuff at a rate to two for one.

    Apparently, the dollar printing facility is STILL in Iran. Only now, the Iranians are best buddies with the Chinese who supply serious quantities of military hardware to Tehran.

  52. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You can’t and won’t because you’re an establishment & deep state loving misanthrope, lunar green leftist etc LARPing as a Rand loving conservative.

    a cucktural marxist

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  54. OldOzzie

    Oops wrong thread post above

  55. old bloke

    Obama likes Suleimani, and admires his work. As the president reportedly told a group of Arab officials in May, the Arabs “need to learn from Iran’s example.”

    What was Valerie Jarrett’s role in the White House?

  56. Just want to throw one thing in on the subject of the assassination of Qassem Suleimani:

    In 2015, when the numbers of deaths in the civil war in Syria escalated dramatically, I began to research what was the cause of this growing catastrophe. That, of course, meant becoming mired in the many nuances of the political scene in the Middle East. It also led to the phenomenon of Qassem Suleimani who was increasingly involved in Iranian support of Assad, especially with the expansion of Islamic State. I collected and cached a lot of articles on his career and influence.

    In returning to those cached articles I have found that almost none of them can be retrieved through Google. Even UTUBE records of the youthful Suleimani’s speeches (in Farsi) to his troops, as well as interviews with him in later life are irretrievable………… What is going on here?

  57. Zatara

    There is also link here.

    Yes, a link would be nice. Because you’ve been taken in by a myth Bruce. One so good they made a movie out of it.

    But the myth fails the most basic of logic tests. Why would the US give anyone, much less an unstable Arab sheikdom, the capability to print US currency and thereby ruin the US economy should they chose to?

    Next problem, the technology used in the printing of US currency has changed vastly since 1979 with security thread and microprinting added in 1990, a complete redesign of the currency in 1996, and various redesigns of specific value notes since then.

    Yes, Iran does use intaglio printers, as do many other countries of the world.
    No, the CIA didn’t buy it for them. Nor did any other US agency.
    No, the CIA didn’t give them US Treasury plates for printing US bills (for one thing the CIA doesn’t have access to them, for very good reason)
    Nor did any other US agency provide them the plates.

    It is quite possible that the Iranians have used their intaglio machines to attempt to print counterfeit US bills. It’s not possible that they used US Treasury pates to do so.

  58. Why is this “awaiting moderation”???

    Just want to throw one thing in on the subject of the assassination of Qassem Suleimani:

    In 2015, when the numbers of deaths in the civil war in Syria escalated dramatically, I began to research what was the cause of this growing catastrophe. That, of course, meant becoming mired in the many nuances of the political scene in the Middle East. It also led to the phenomenon of Qassem Suleimani who was increasingly involved in Iranian support of Assad, especially with the expansion of Islamic State. I collected and cached a lot of articles on his career and influence.

    In returning to those cached articles I have found that almost none of them can be retrieved through Google. Even UTUBE records of the youthful Suleimani’s speeches (in Farsi) to his troops, as well as interviews with him in later life are irretrievable………… What is going on here?

  59. Professor Fred Lenin

    The last thing theUS government wants is a repeat of the decromat Carters hostage situation which dragged on for over a year and showed the ineptness of US forces during the abortive “rescue ” attempts . That was an extremely embarrassing event for the people involved . A repetition of that would be a disaster and encourage every two bob fascist communist in the world to try their hand at attacking the USA .
    Fortunately Hilarity isnt president ,God only knows what her left swamp administration would do in a situation like this . I strongly favour the death sentence for terrorism no matter who or what they represent , there is no such thing as a recividist terrorist if the are dead . The drones are a great idea totally unexpected death raining from the sky ,no matter where they are or who they are ,knocking off a few mullahs might bring a bit of caution to the actions of the surviving islamofascists ,I mean they expect the foot soldiers to join allah but that shouldnt affect the “leadership” Kill a half dozen, “pour encourager les autres .”I mean what can they do that they are not doing at moment .
    Thes rocket attacks the fascist are responding with find the HA of the iranian troops and drone the officers ,introduce uncerainty into the leaderships lives ,remove their security see .the change

  60. Bruce

    Zatara:

    Iran is absolutely NOT an “arab” sheikdom. The majority of Iranians are “Persians”, the speak Farsi (from which the term “Persia” is derived.

    As for the rest of the story, I was merely relaying what more “interested” parties have told me. There was some bloke called “Casey” deeply involved, as I recall.

    Iran under the Shah was something of a bulwark in a region replete with countries under Soviet influence. It’s collapse, rapidly accelerated by the return of Khomeni from a rather comfy exile in France, was loudly cheered by the usual suspects.

    The Mullahs are the pointy end of the Shia brand of Islam. Their steadfast adherence to the apocalyptic doctrine of the “Twelfth Imam” is also shared by Alawite Syrians. BOTH schools are regarded as utterly heretical by the primarily Arab Sunni groups who surround them. Iran once held sizeable populations of Jews, Christians and, importantly, Zoroastrians. They all seem to be pretty thin on the ground there now.

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