On The Getting of Scott Morrison

THIS morning’s bad Newspoll result for Scott Morrison will arouse party room conniptions and a story-unto-itself nuclear half-life in the media but the figures are only as foreboding as the Prime Minister wants them to be. The poll is a chin cut – bloody but not deep. Yes, a month of causal linkage made by commentators between Mr Morrison’s actions (or whereabouts) and deadly bushfires took a political toll. No surprise there. The bigger the lie, the bigger the bill. But the idea that hundreds of thousands of voters suddenly want Anthony Albanese to hold the reins of Federal power is laughable. Apart from a few notably goofy photo-ops with firemen, he has said and done nothing of any importance or relevance to the unfolding national crisis. His first instinct was to defend the PM when the Hawaii hysteria began. Both men underestimated the journalistic appetite during the Christmas lull for a scandal to rival the cricket as a lazy-days diversion for the bored and the fanatical. The Opposition Leader altered his messaging only when it became clear Mr Morrison was the arch-villain. The poll also shows there was a public appetite for a culpability narrative. That’s no bad thing. The dollar coin has to stop rolling at somebody’s boot-tip. But it’s doubtful the public holds the PM accountable for the fires or their scope and fallout. They realise that’s deranged. No, they mostly hold Mr Morrison responsible for mismanaging his own vulnerability to criticism. He should be on top of such political basics.

Polling aside, the broader hate-campaign against Scott Morrison had three phases. First, a few journalists – all carbon dioxide foes still smarting about yet another electoral repudiation for the cause – decided that a Prime Minister (with two young children) had no right to Christmas leave while bushfires were burning. If he couldn’t man a hose like Tony Abbott or dole out a cut-lunch for the cameras like Mr Albanese, he sure as Adam Schiff could visit some forward areas and a command headquarters; he could be seen to care, in other words. Phase two was predictable: by the time he did return to work, the media had primed those he visited – many of them sullen ferals or “firies” living fifteen minutes of fame – to abuse him. A few even expressed a desire to assault him. Other ‘protesters’ were arrested after invading his family home in the Shire – later boasting their intention was to defecate in the swimming pool used by the Morrisons’ two little girls. Amoral animals like this used to be clubbed by Special Branch in the Bjelke-Petersen era but they now sashay around Australian political life like ennobled heroes. In Victoria, they are a special branch themselves – of the ALP. The third and final phase was something the Nolan brothers’ filmic magicians called ‘the Prestige.’ The ta-da moment when we see what the set-up was all about. It was ‘climate change’ pulled out of a top-hat. Same old rabbit.

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89 Responses to On The Getting of Scott Morrison

  1. Crazyoldranga

    As a former marketing man ScoMo should have known better than to be elsewhere when the fire hit the trees. I’m not a fan of his, but the yelling and screaming about him is making me puke. It’s not like he set the fires.

  2. struth

    ScoMo deserves all he gets.

    He’s a spineless leftist, a global socialist servant, a poor salesman, who stands for nothing.

    He’s anti cash, he’s climate alarmist who will not tolerate for a second getting out of an agreement with those who wish the west’s destruction,………………..and now the left can smell the shit in his pants because he stands for nothing and has tried to have a bet each way.
    A disaster for Australia.

  3. stackja

    Did Scomo leave before Victoria exploded? Dan didn’t get interested until when?

  4. Turtle

    Morrison will now pointlessly try to win the left over with climate bollocks, winning not one vote, but turning his base against him. Fool.

  5. candy

    Same old rabbit.

    The issue of climate change needs to be officially taken to an election or plebiscite.
    That is, if a majority believe the planet is at risk and certain policies will stop our bushfires, that is what should be done.

    This whole issue is holding up proper governance and stability in Australia. The media cannot let it go and PMs lose their jobs because of it.

  6. DaveR

    Yes laughable indeed. Albanese is a lonely figure constantly traveling the length and breadth of the nation in search of an issue – any issue – that gets him in the press and gives the ALP some relevance.

    And this goes on while he and other senior Labor figures ignore the fundamental schism in the ALP – between its blue-collar voters and the inner city woke elites – that threatens to grow into a fundamental split in the party the size of the DLP episode, and will keep Labor out of government for years to come.

    Maybe it will all go away Albo?

  7. candy

    Did Scomo leave before Victoria exploded? Dan didn’t get interested until when?

    I think the difficulty arose because he did not tell the public he was on holiday and hardly anyone knew that McCormack was the acting PM, or even if he knew himself.
    Victoria exploded, there seemed to be no PM or acting PM, and only then it was discovered PM Morrison was in Hawaii.

  8. mem

    No, they mostly hold Mr Morrison responsible for mismanaging his own vulnerability to criticism. He should be on top of such political basics.

    Spot on with this observation. The left and greenies desperately needed to shift the narrative away from the overgrowth of bush land, lack of clearing and fire bugs being the main culprits. They were on the back foot and so they targeted Morrison so he would pull in his head which, being a dutiful coward, he did. The left helped by the CO2 media then piled on the climate change mantra and low and behold they are back calling the punches. Get a back bone Scomo you just lost a big opportunity to silence the catastrophists.

  9. Viva

    I disagree

    Scomo throws the yapping pack a bone every now and then but he is still holding the line

    After all the years of propaganda and emotionalism around the climate issue it’s the best anyone can at this time

  10. mem

    After all the years of propaganda and emotionalism around the climate issue it’s the best anyone can (do) at this tim

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    Disagree totally. He would have had the public behind him and he could have landed a winning punch. Not many opportunities come along and he will live to regret missing this one.

  11. Spider

    “But it’s doubtful the public holds the PM accountable for the fires or their scope and fallout. “

    Not all of the voting public but almost every ALP and Greens voter and a sizeable proportion of folk who voted LNP who get their news from Facebook. Throw in the baying MSM who kept fanning the flames so to speak and he didn’t have a chance. Once the full force of the media decides its a story you are stuffed. I don’t care who you are (with the exception of Trump). These things then take on a life of their own.

  12. Rebel with cause

    I’ve tuned out all the bushfire coverage. It’s all part of the sickening politicisation and corpratisation of everything. Once upon a time Australian’s just got on with it, now every fire is a political event and a chance to beg for donations (what is the money going to be used for exactly?) abetted by a corporate sector seeking cheap Facebook likes.

  13. Tom

    The bigger the lie, the bigger the bill. But the idea that hundred of thousands of voters suddenly want Anthony Albanese to hold the reins of Federal power is laughable.

    Newspoll’s main function through the electoral cycle is to nominate those who say they will (but rarely do) vote for an opposition as a protest against the government. People don’t actually decide who they will vote for until days or weeks before the election.

    The real story is that, with a do-nothing retail politician who believes in nothing in charge, the LNP retained the 2PP lead for eight months after the election, which tells you how much on the nose the ALP-Filth are.

    Morrison is getting his comeuppance for being a spineless coward, which ironically only encourages the ALP and the howler monkey left to once again make themselves unelectable. And ordinary people can spot bullshit from a mile away, so the left’s instinct to lie about its intentions in government will win no votes. Better the devil you know.

    Leftards are hopeless at retail politics because essentially they exist to subvert the dominant paradigm — i.e. bring down the capitalist system — because they think ordinary people are stupid. To call this a stalemate is an understatement.

  14. jo

    It’s not like he set the fires.

    But.t but.tt But,ttt, they told me it was Morro’s fault. You mean he didn’t light the fires. Didn’t the Rub’n’Tug man introduce Climat tic Savings of the the Planit when Morro was on holiday and put all the fires out. What did the whiney little bitch do. Sweet Fanny Adams.

  15. Cassie of Sydney

    “and hardly anyone knew that McCormack was the acting PM, or even if he knew himself.”

    And therein lies the rub…McCormack is utterly, utterly useless.

    Barnaby would have been out there and giving the media as good as he got.

    Bring back Barnaby.

  16. MACK

    “Viva at 1:25 pm
    After all the years of propaganda and emotionalism around the climate issue it’s the best anyone can at this time”

    In fact ScoMo could exploit the fact that all journalists are innumerate, and throw some numbers at them.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2019/09/30/net-zero-carbon-dioxide-emissions-by-2050-requires-a-new-nuclear-power-plant-every-day/#4ca2ddb235f7

    Or quote numerate people like Bill Gates:

  17. Exit Stage Right

    Definitely a lost opportunity for Malcolm lite.
    He obviously enjoys being a leftist punching bag.
    I was holding a small measure of hope that he would repudiate the attempted link by the left to blame the fires on Climate Change.
    No way. Scomo has doubled down on the Paris Agreement and is muttering about “changes” to our approach to bushfires, no doubt incorporating more of the Green Loons ecobabble.
    Why do Liberal leaders like Scomo and Abbott feel the need to cosy up to their enemies when someone says something nasty about them? Take the lead from Trump, ignore the leftist Media and stick to your guns on policy (although the Lib guns mostly fire blanks).
    Dutton is our man. The battlelines have been drawn.

  18. Confused Old Misfit

    It would not have mattered if Morrison had vacationed in Alice Springs or Honolulu he was going to be pilloried. Australian news editors, having watched the viciousness of the American media, are trying to see how far they can push against a politician before they raise the wrath of the Australian electorate.
    I predict they will go all the way.
    The only antidote is a leader in the mold of Trump. Hopefully not quite as grade school yard crude but with the fortitude to carry a policy forward and not be put off by the worry-warts who are exercised by the concerns of fringe groups. As has been said: You get no votes from those groups and loose votes from your own followers on that path.
    The example of how an economy can be invigorated is there to be followed.

  19. RobertS

    Their ABC currently transmitting the bullshit coming from the mouth of renewable energy shill Ross Garnaut.
    He is, after all, an economist.

  20. Old Lefty

    Apologies if I’m repeating myself, but an old mate who has worked in the transport sector for years told me that Albanese was a huge disappointment as minister. He and his office had no serious interest in the sector, or in policy or administration. It was only ever about the next press release, the next opinion poll or the numbers in the next caucus vote.

    My friend said that, obviously, Albo wasn’t a patch on John Anderson, his coalition predecessor. But he also failed dismally when compared to Peter Morris, Hawke’s first transport minister – not a factional heavy hitter or a media tart, but a capable and sensible man (entered parliament at 40 after running a small business) who saw his job as leaving the sector in a better state than he found it (think e.g. The National Highway). If Albinos the best the ALP can do …..

  21. Cassie of Sydney

    And the only reason why the media and all the rest of the chattering scum that permeate our institutions have gotten away with their incessant smearing, sliming and defaming of Morrison and the Libs is because Morrison and the Liberals allowed it….PERIOD! Where are the Liberals pushing back against this constant hysteria and alarmism? I don’t see any….apart from one or two brave hearts….people such as Craig Kelly who, when he speaks up…..is allowed by Morrison and others Liberals to be lampooned and trashed. The Liberals DO NOTHING to combat their ideological enemies….in fact, such is their appeasement that they will happily line up against a wall and allow the left to shoot them.

    I just give up…this smearing over the last few weeks would have been quite easy to put a clamp on….but nobody speaks up, nobody wants to counteract the lies, the defamation and the venality. This is why Trump is successful….he knows exactly what he is dealing with. He takes no prisoners.

    But you know what….it is probably too late…the Liberals have spent a decade sitting on the fence or just outright camping with their ideological enemies when it comes to “climate”. Even under Abbott…despite getting rid of the carbon tax…..they straddled the middle line…such was their fear. Remember it was Abbott who signed us up to Paris…..Turdbull and that grotesque Bitch ratified it. And now we have Morrison…..talking about further reducing our emissions without increasing power bills and unemployment. Sorry….I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry…perhaps I’ll do both.

  22. Roger

    Bring back Barnaby.

    I’m afraid I have to agree.

    McCormack may be a decent fellow but he’s low energy.

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    “Hopefully not quite as grade school yard crude”

    Disagree…..we need the crudity.

  24. JC

    Yea all true.

    But what has Morrison done to repel the borg? He’s apologized and now dolling out loads of taxpayer cash.

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3291111, posted on January 13, 2020 at 2:15 pm
    Bring back Barnaby.

    I’m afraid I have to agree.

    McCormack may be a decent fellow but he’s low energy.”

    I don’t want decent…I am tired of decent. We’re fighting a war that we are currently losing precisely because we have been too decent for far too long. We need rocks…BIG ROCKS….Barnaby knows how to throw the rocks.

  26. Billy Boy

    I think most of the Nats are not up to it. McCormack and Littleproud are not impressive, in my view. Regardless of what Morrison does, the left leaning media will find fault and find Labor supporters to embarrass him.

  27. Shy Ted

    There had never been an easier time to be a politician. Just do what Donald does. And on the lunchtime radio we have some moochers called the Carbon Market Institute. Don’t do anything, make anything, just increase the price of things. Josh F announces $50m for the greenies. Saves us donating to what we consider worthy causes. And more along the same lines. But you already know that.
    I’m actually a fan of Michael Mc but the MSM refuse to give him the airtime. He does however buy into every leftie theme and question but the core of his message is more dams, less environmental flows and so on.

  28. stackja

    White Island victims: Australian dies, death toll rises to 20
    The devastating White Island volcano is continuing to claim victims, with another Australian dying in hospital weeks after the catastrophic New Zealand event.
    Georgia Clark, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    January 13, 2020 12:15pm

    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has said the WorkSafe investigation into the “harm and loss of life” caused by the eruption may take up to a year.

    “Tour operators, cruiseship happenings, emergency responders and land owners fall under this. WorkSafe can prosecute for breaches of the act and penalties in criminal sanctions range from $50,000 to $3 million and up to five years in prison,” Ms Ardern said.

    “The coronial processes are also likely to continue for some time. As a cabinet, we know that it is possible there will be broader issues that won’t be covered by these inquiries.”

    Scomo is responsible for states fires? JA is not responsible for NZ volcano deaths?

  29. Howard Hill

    Morrison is just the current bad cop actor for the whole establishment. We are being played for the suckers we are. None of them have any intention of exposing the fraud that is globull warming. It is their current method to shape the direction mankind takes into the future.

    There is no difference between the factions it’s just theatre to fool the masses into believing they have a say. I ask again, what has been conserved under any conservative government?

  30. Alan

    Off topic: Drag Queen Storytime Protest (Brisbane)
    “We have been made aware that protest organiser Wilson Gavin has DIED this morning.”

  31. cohenite

    Either scomo is another gutless conservative who pisses his pants at the first test of membrane thin principles or he’s in on the game, the game being alarmism which is really just communism in an environmental nightie which the elites have wrapped around themselves.

    So, the choice is:

    Conservative but gutless
    Swamp creature.

  32. jupes

    But what has Morrison done to repel the borg? He’s apologized and now dolling out loads of taxpayer cash.

    Not to mention caving on ‘climate change’. Weak as piss.

    He has an opportunity now though. This morning’s Oz has stated ‘climate change’ will be one of the terms of reference for the royal commission into the fires. Good. It shouldn’t take too much of the commissioner’s time to come to the conclusion that there is precisely nothing Australia can do to change the weather.

    All SloMo has to do is select the right commissioner. Who’s confident he can do that?

  33. Maybe Morrison might learn something from this. No matter what you do or say, the Left will hate you and do anything to destroy you. So grow a back bone, eat some concrete and start doing what you know is right, rather than trying to please the media.

    Guess what, the media has been trying to destroy Trump since 2016 and failed miserably. He just does what he knows to be right and keeps destroying the media and the Democrats.

  34. Davo

    Gutless jerk, a couple of numbers down and they give in the the fantasy sellers that climate change causes fires etc.

    Don’t be conned, more and more government funding is being spent on emissions…in agriculture, r&d funds are being spent on it and sensible scientists are trying to make sure they can still do useful work while the federal agencies bend over to the climate gods

  35. Cui Bono

    Dutto would sort it. ScoMo will borrow more money on our credit card in a vain attempt to appease. Third rate leaderx of a second rate nation.

  36. Chris M

    Don’t care about the medias AGW hoax bleating but PM Scott is weak, a globalist and is overseeing the demise of Australian businesses as his government regulates and taxes them to death. He’s either completely clueless or is actually willing a recession to happen. In this country it seems to make little difference who wins an election.

  37. C.L.

    Delingpole’s piece on the bushfires and the lies surrounding them is a must read.

  38. JC

    From Dellingpole’s piece.

    Dellingpole essentially citing Martin Durkin. “vironmentalism meanders over from the Nazis and North European paganism.

    But then the environmentalists stuck their oar in with their fashionable notions – borrowed from Rousseau via the German ecologists and the Nazis – that nature should be left in a wild and pristine state, unsullied by man.

  39. JC

    Also from Dellingpole and also true. He borrows slightly from my often remarked observation. Australia does virtue signlaing like no other country in the world.

    Australia – contrary to its Crocodile Dundee image – has some of the whiniest, most self-righteous and interfering lefties in the world.

  40. candy

    It’s difficult for an Australian PM to be more robust because they will be toppled by their own if the polls look dicey, and especially the Liberals are now very prone to this. Half of them are climate change alarmists themselves.

    That’s why I think a plebiscite for the public to make their wishes known is best. I am not sure how much support there would be for climate appeasement policies if they are spelt out – such as ceasing coal mining.

    Just asking someone is they believe in climate change is ridiculous. It the effect of the policies that is the issue. Whether emission reduction actually stops floods, cyclones and bushfires.

  41. JC

    More from Dellingpole.

    And where this Australian bush fire tragedy is concerned, no one deserves more opprobrium than the greens whose poisonous, anti-human, anti-science, anti-history ideology has turned what could have been a minor inconvenience into a full-on disaster

    So, so true.

  42. anonandon

    All he needs to do is ask himself – “what would Trump do?”

  43. Cassie of Sydney

    “anonandon
    #3291314, posted on January 13, 2020 at 5:59 pm
    All he needs to do is ask himself – “what would Trump do?””

    But he won’t.

  44. anonandon

    Cassie

    And there is the tragedy of it all. It is being handed to him on a plate.

  45. Watch Your Back

    I look at President Trump and I see someone who refuses to back down. When he’s attacked, he attacks right back. He speaks over the heads of the media, the Democrats and the climate loons straight to ordinary people. Mr Morrison did this at the election here.

    Instead of trying to placate the Greens and thecABC, he should go on a full attack.
    This might include:

    1. A Royal Commission chaired by someone on the right.
    2. A promise of severe penalties where negligent land management has occurred.
    3. Setting up a Fed inspection Unit to visit the forests and the bush, issue fines to the States, lollies and managers, prison terms for repeat offenders.
    4. Heavy, well-publicised sentences for arsonists.
    5. Setting up a semi formal Country Fire Service, which can pay firefighters as freelancers. (Fuck the unionist).
    6. Sack every CEO of environmental planning in the States.

    I think he’d get a lot of support. As Machiavelli said, there is no point in a leader trying to appease his opponents, to try to curry favour. He needs to be strong, decisive, firm and harsh.

  46. Perfidious Albino

    It was telling as we were driving north from MEL to QLD pre Christmas as the ‘getting of ScoMo’ commenced – lots of older ‘hi Alan’ callers to radio expressing outrageous outrage at ScoMo being in Hawaii. Equally, we could almost exactly predict the unprompted comments from people we visited along the way – regurgitating the same MSM talking points for the day. Frustrating that so many erstwhile capable and intelligent people are captured by the hive mind…

  47. Michael Lewis

    Everybody (all experts) getting stuck into ScoMo – the more you swear and curse him, the more you must be right. If you bothered to look at the comments on the SMH fire articles, you will see thousands of screeching, hysteric, whipped up people (?) who will be satisfied ONLY with “Climate Action” – none of this pussy footing, clearing of forests etc. That is irrelevant! Climate Action is required starting with the banning of “pollution” – the black stuff that always comes out of coal (and nuclear) power stations and forms clouds during thunder storms- hey that’s water vapour? – a minor detail – anything to do with EVIL coal – the most evil form of “carbon”. (Who heard of carbon dioxide?). How do you make decisions with a baying mob at your vitals? Summary: all of the comments here are really by Albanese, armchair warriors. The real political world is extremely difficult.

  48. Colonel Crispin Berka

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/the-economy/port-arthur-moment-business-urges-pm-to-lead-on-climate-amid-bushfire-crisis-20200113-p53qzq.html

    “I hope the tragedy of the past few months is our generation’s Port Arthur moment,” Paul Bassat, a prominent investor and co-founder of employment website SEEK said, referring to the 1996 massacre that prompted the Howard government to drastically tighten gun laws. “The government and all Australians must take much more aggressive measures to reduce emissions,” he said.
    “For those that are sceptical, the simple question I ask is: ‘What if you are wrong? Are you prepared to gamble the planet on your non-scientific hunch?’”

  49. miltonf

    Third rate leaderx of a second rate nation

    Australia is a first rate nation that suffers from a treacherous political class. This has probably been the case since 1972.

  50. miltonf

    PS – the way the media hate ScoMo suggests that there must be something good about him even if it is only that he is not Shorten.

  51. Cassie of Sydney

    ” If you bothered to look at the comments on the SMH fire articles”

    I can’t read the stinking, sneering, socialist anti-Semitic morning herald.

  52. miltonf

    Thing is Cassie you know what the readers’ comments in the Sydney Morning Vomit are going to be without having to read them.

  53. Chris M

    It’s difficult for an Australian PM to be more robust because they will be toppled by their own if the polls look dicey

    Other way around Candy. The polls look dicey because the guy doesn’t look or act robust. Therefore he is setting himself up to get turfed before too long.

  54. Nob

    Colonel Crispin Berka
    #3291336, posted on January 13, 2020 at 6:25 pm
    “For those that are sceptical, the simple question I ask is: ‘What if you are wrong? Are you prepared to gamble the planet (he said “planet” – wank wank wank) on your non-scientific hunch?’”

    Well, we are wrong.

    We’ve vastly underestimated the cost of the proposed emission targets which would do more damage to The Planet (wank wank wank) than any change in weather.

    But we’re also right, since nobody important is seriously doing anything and only unimportant countries are striving to be world leaders in economic self harm.

  55. miltonf

    Why is my ‘hunch’ non scientific- I studied chemistry to second year and physics to third year so I reckon I know something about it. What these people really want is an end to the middle classes. In the meantime they’re happy to mash birds and chop down rainforests in Borneo.

  56. miltonf

    Marx didn’t like the middle classes either- said they should be eliminated or something.

  57. Nob

    I proposed a register to beat climate change.

    Like a donor or “do not resuscitate” card, you can carry a card or join a register demanding that no fossil fuel vehicle is to be used to rescue you or your loved ones or your property in the event of fire or other emergency.

    It got through The Australian comments a couple of days ago but hasn’t made it anywhere else.

  58. Roger

    “For those that are sceptical, the simple question I ask is: ‘What if you are wrong? Are you prepared to gamble the planet on your non-scientific hunch?’”

    Begging the question there with “non-scientific hunch”.

    Be that as it may; in response, Australia could do all that is asked of it in terms of carbon emissions reduction and more and it would have near zero impact upon the climate.

    The chief scientist said so.

    Do the cost-benefit analysis, old mate, an dmake your case to the Australian public without sensationalism.

  59. Roger

    Why is my ‘hunch’ non scientific

    Simply because it doesn’t accord with the politically manipulated “scientific consensus”.

    People who make these criticisms have never heard of scientific paradigms and why they are best treated with suspicion or simply ignored. They imagine that science progresses by majority vote; well, it does, I suppose – but not in the way they imagine (cf. Thomas Kuhn).

  60. miltonf

    Thanks Roger- hadn’t heard of Kuhn.

  61. Nighthawk the Elder

    Morrison never stood a chance against a relentless MSM. They had him in their sights and they were going to bring him down any way they could. It’s payback for the AFP raids on a couple of journos mid last year. Has everyone forgotten that? The MSM haven’t and they want revenge.

    They ran an attempted support campaign last spring trying to woo the great unwashed to push the government into the direction they wanted. That didn’t go to plan and they probably didn’t expect the level of criticism towards media from the general public. So plan B is to bring down Morrison some other way. Enter the fires, Albo’s fake breakfast, McCormack’s lack lustre presence as the act PM in a crisis and a few selected media attack dogs and there you go. It was all down hill from there.

    And don’t think for a second the Murdoch press didn’t get in on the action. They’ve guzzled the Klimate Khange Koolaid and they went in just as hard. Thousands of comments were posted on the stories on their mast heads over those few days, whereas comments from the getup trolls were posted straight away, comments with a conservative bent or even a whiff of supporting Morrison could spend up to 24 hours in moderation. By the time they were posted, the thrust of the story was lost.

    Morrison should not waste any more time apologising. He needs to learn the lesson Abbott should have learnt, the media hate him because he isn’t Turnbull. Stop trying to be their friend. He should also stop listening to the bullshit advise on future use of the ADF in an emergency, on setting up federal agencies and on basically excusing the states of their responsibilities. And one more thing, giving hugs is not fucking leadership. (Did Churchill ever give out hugs during the blitz?). Go and do some intense training on what leadership and crisis management really is.

    Perhaps take a leaf out of Trump’s playbook and bypass the traditional media. Court the support of the independents and citizen bloggers and use other platforms such as Twitter (but do it smartly by not engaging with trolls).

    But we all know they won’t learn.

  62. Nighthawk the Elder

    That’s advice (noun), not advise (verb). (I’m edumacated).

  63. Diogenes

    I put a fuller version of this extract of comment in Pennies thread, but is apropos here…

    Just wait for the anti-ScoMo campaign when people make insurance claims, and have their claims assessed and discover they are now woefully underinsured due to something called BAL, which I know is now in force in NSW & the ACT, and I believe as it an Australia Standard (AS3959) and in force in all states.

    In the past many insurers would have advised cover on the basis of x m2 house size* $y = $cover to rebuild as a new build and that is adjusted for inflation as the years roll on, or people would have looked at a project home of similar spec, used the build price of that, and added a “fudge factor”.

    If they used the former method, for houses built before 1994, the rebuild will now have to account for Basix (adds anywhere between 15-50k depending on house size), if the latter then that would be built in.
    Now add in BAL

    According to home insurance company AAMI, the estimated additional cost for BAL 12.5 to BAL 40 is between $16,000 to $56,000, while BAL 40 is between $19,000 to $73,000.

    Houses in Flame Zones — the highest risk category — could cost an additional $65,000 to $277,000, to meet requirements.

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/home-mag/what-you-need-to-know-about-building-in-a-bushfire-prone-area/news-story/c0d5747aa81cc2d588c6eab0a631b305

    No 1 son says the Insurance Council wrote householders in high risk areas advising them to review their insurance. No 1 son says his colleagues in Home Insurance have told him that very few have either contacted them, declined the increase in cover, or just cancelled their insurance altogether.

    Of course it will be ALL ScoMos fault for letting their house burn down.

  64. Roger

    Thanks Roger- hadn’t heard of Kuhn.

    The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (c. 1970) is a modern classic, milton.

    Slim and relatively easy to read for laymen too.

  65. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    VenOztraliastan – this stupid, stupid, shithole.

  66. Roger

    Correction – 1962. My edition is 1970.

  67. miltonf

    They ran an attempted support campaign last spring trying to woo the great unwashed to push the government into the direction they wanted. That didn’t go to plan and they probably didn’t expect the level of criticism towards media from the general public. What were they up to then Nighthawk?

  68. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I don’t want decent…I am tired of decent. We’re fighting a war that we are currently losing precisely because we have been too decent for far too long. We need rocks…BIG ROCKS….Barnaby knows how to throw the rocks.

    Agree. The conservative voice is far too tame and just sits back to be drubbed. Time to hit the direct route to the public, Scomo, by doing a Trump and getting on to Twitter with a different point of view. While the leftist MSM will always bay for your blood this is something positive you can do to stand up for yourself.

    Or get Barnaby to do it for you if you lack the cojones for it. Make him Deputy PM while you are at it. Whatever, a quick and immediate response to the blatant nonsense is needed – a constant drip feed to counter the baying mob.

  69. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    People who make these criticisms have never heard of scientific paradigms and why they are best treated with suspicion or simply ignored.

    I have mentioned Kuhn’s work a number of times on Catallaxy. It is important because it shows how when politics enters the mix of science then science itself can get swamped by opinion. Which is exactly what has happened with any science regarding a possible anthropogenic warming of the planet. The models are not good and the empirical evidence for any warming is scanty at best. There is a lot of data fudging to make the empirical situation seem to agree with the hypothesized warming. Time to change the dominant paradigm and dismiss its political components; back to genuine science – hypothesis testing and evidence.

  70. Roger

    Or get Barnaby to do it for you if you lack the cojones for it. Make him Deputy PM while you are at it.

    And sack the likes of Wyatt & Littleproud.

    And “Josh” Frydenberg’s remit to comment publicly on issues should be constrained to Treasury matters only.

  71. Roger

    It is important because it shows how when politics enters the mix of science then science itself can get swamped by opinion.

    Much more than that, Lizzie; not politics but human nature.

    One of the most influential books of the 20th C.., whose lessons sadly appear to have been forgotten.

    If my niece’s scientific career is anything to go by, it’s now possible to advance quite a bit in a scientific career without ever having to wrestle with the philosophy of science. If scientists themselves are unaware of these questions it shouldn’t surprise that their lay disciples who so quickly make illegitimate appeals to scientific authority in discussions about public policy are too.

    Unwittingly, they are ushering in a new dark age with a veneer of Platonic respectability.

  72. Craig Mc

    Would I be wrong if I said the polls were similar to the ones done in the week before the May election?

  73. classical_hero

    I don’t understand why we’re listening to traitors. They are willing to destroy the economy for supposedly saving the environment. We should be calling them out.

  74. miltonf

    I thought the same Craig Mc.

  75. Mark M

    If ScoMo is responsible for the fires, he could also take credit for the cool as well …

    Australia bushfires: Cooler weather brings respite, situation still volatile
    https://www.dw.com/en/australia-bushfires-cooler-weather-brings-respite-situation-still-volatile/a-51889829

    … but he won’t. He can’t. He is onboard the UN doomsday global warming train. Express.
    First stop; climate nirvana. Mind the gap when alighting …

  76. Squirrel

    The pile-on certainly has been something to behold (and Pyne probably still thinks that Turnbull is Aslan) but we’ve got a couple of years until the next election, and the MSM is already getting back to its usual fascination with the police rounds, footballer shenanigans, petrol prices etc. etc.

    Today’s talk about technology as a way of dealing with carbon emissions targets is a good response – it steers the debate away from the obsession with targets as an end in themselves and a measure of purity and saintliness (separation of church and state really is a good idea), and moves it towards the practicalities which the climate change crusaders don’t like to talk about.

  77. eb

    Need to remember the political climate in Australia has been absent any kind solemn event for a while. Morrison has looked a goose over this because he’s tuned into either belting people or trying to pretend he’s an average yobbo at the rugby or cricket. His media people are mostly ex Daily Telegraph cretins who aren’t the brightest bulbs and they only know punch or be punched. I know his head of media, it’s been a fortunate run and I wondered when the big balls up was coming. I wasn’t disappointed.

    The problem with the scene at that town, why was he there? He didn’t bring anything, he didn’t do anything, didn’t say anything, didn’t listen to anyone. And because he had nothing beyond himself and some advisers they had to make for the cars and speed out of town. All on camera. Utter disaster. We can blame the media or the bogans all we like, but a lot of it has been the shambles coming from his office.

  78. Spider

    Why was he [scomo] there?

    Why is any politician there? As I’ve said before when did this whole politician visiting the disaster site thing begin? Does anybody (apart from media) actually benefit from the PM crawling through their burnt out property (with a media circus in tow) trying to shake their hands. I just don’t get it. But we’ve now been conditioned to expect it otherwise we’re disappointed.

  79. Crossie

    Why do Liberal leaders like Scomo and Abbott feel the need to cosy up to their enemies when someone says something nasty about them? Take the lead from Trump, ignore the leftist Media and stick to your guns on policy (although the Lib guns mostly fire blanks).
    Dutton is our man. The battlelines have been drawn.

    Dutton has less chance than a snowball in hell, we will end up with the great formless Frydenberg. And then somebody else and somebody else until defeat at the next election.

  80. Mark M

    And this is why my vote went to Pauline …

    “When he was immigration minister I predicted then that he would actually go on to be Prime Minister of this country and I have been dismally disappointed with him.
    “He is not the strong leader he was then.
    I feel that a lot of the time he is fence-sitting.
    “He is trying to appease a lot of people without just getting and making those tough decisions and going ahead and doing it.”

    In a five-minute spiel, One Nation leader Pauline Hanson said “bloody climate change” should play no part in any inquest into the bushfires.

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/i-think-its-a-load-of-bs-pauline-hanson-wants-climate-change-left-out-of-bushfires-royal-commission/news-story/05b8869789039d7b9ad711f39916b620

    And my vote is safe with PHON.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Why is any politician there? As I’ve said before when did this whole politician visiting the disaster site thing begin?

    Big disasters need to draw in those who represent the country in times of trouble as well as in times of decision making. The Aberfan disaster in Britain in 1966 which hundreds of children when a mine sludge heap collapsed on their school drew in poiticians and also that other symbol of the Nation – Royalty. However the Queen delayed a short period of a few days before appearing, because she didn’t want to get in the way of rescue efforts. Some criticism came to her for that, saying she left it too late. Royalty is expected to be at the bedside of disasters ever since; taking care of subjects in distress is one of the traditional functions of Royalty, symbolizing that the Nation cares. What about here? Did our Governor-General or any of the State Governors appear this time? The Queen and Prince Philip sent a message, as they always do with any Australian concerns. Politicians these days are also national symbols; ScoMo had bad optics taking a holiday in a bushfire season, especially overseas, but too much has been made of it. Like the Queen, he can recover from such a small misstep. He was there. As I’ve said, he should also have taken his wife when entering a labor stronghold area that was devastated and where social media had whipped the residents into a fury against him. That’s Marketing 101. Perhaps he should not even have gone to that funeral, sent the GG instead, but taken himself to other areas. He had choices there.

  82. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    .. which killed .. hundreds of children

  83. J.H.

    Meanwhile the media are quite happy to push the message that if you burn the joint down, you can change a government.

    The true madness is having entire townships submerged in fire cycle vegetation with regulations that imprison people for clearing it away from their homes and properties.

    We have Government Ecofascists and nutcase arsonists working hand in hand to create their apocalypse…. and a media only too willing to fan the fires of revolution.

    Bizarre times indeed.

  84. Jo Smyth

    I haven’t really listened much to ScoMo lately. When I have he appears to be going over to the dark side. He sounds sympathetic, has that sympathetic look on his face and then we get the climate lecture. Has he ever actually mentioned the arsonists, the woke Green State Councils and their love of excessive fuel loads. The mismanagement of the bush. If he has ever mentioned all these things he must have skirted over the subjects quite quickly. They don’t fit with his current narrative.

  85. Fair Shake of the Sauce Bottle

    This issue was raised during a slow news week by left wing journalists who can never be appeased. It was picked up by their International cohort, put through the amplifier and perspective of ‘Scomo bad on Climate change dogma’ and dumped back into Australia.

    Hatchet 🪓 job of the first class.

    No mention of States Leaders gorn missing cos they can’t get enough of that Climate Change stuff.

  86. Cui Bono

    Diogenes – how long before calls for a Royal Commission into the insurance industry?

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