Tuesday Forum: January 14, 2020

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  1. Bar Beach Swimmer

    This is what we have to do. An institution proves itself unworthy by going woke, destruction ensues.
    The next step is to make new and betterer institutions that aren’t bound by all the crap the old ones got caught up in.
    That will take a new breed of engaged individuals…

    This is the sentiment that began all the worst revolutions. If you tear something down first be sure that you know what you’re going to be replacing it with, otherwise we will all be looking into the hungry jaws of M. Guillotine.

    There’s a great scene in the movie A Man for All Seasons when Thomas Moore (Paul Scofield) is discussing with his new SiL (Coren Redgrave) the rights of the Devil to a fair trial. SiL Roper wishes to deny the Devil the benefit of law because he’s the Devil. Moore responds that if it in order to deal effectively with the Devil the laws are removed, what them for his own safety and security under the law because the law has been removed. As Moore says, give the Devil his due that I, too, may be received of the same benefit.

    BtW There’s a great biography of Moore, which well relays the read: Peter Ackroyd: The Life of Thomas Moore

  2. Rex Mango

    LL, hate to do your research for you and trying to watch Youtube videos, but here’s the original screenplay by Shane Black (called Lethal Weapon II, not 2 too). Page 110 says the container is 10 feet tall by 8 feet wide, no mention of length. In the original story the container is not dropped on the bad guy either:

    http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/Lethal%20Weapon_2.pdf

  3. Armadillo

    If you want some decent memorabillia, you need to go to a middle eastern funeral. Like the Ayatollah Khomenis. Genuine clothing, handfuls of beard and bones. Genuine religious relics.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    BtW There’s a great biography of Moore, which well relays the read: Peter Ackroyd: The Life of Thomas Moore

    Sir Thomas Moore’s last words, on his way to the chopping block, were said to be to ask the executioners help in climbing the ladder to the scaffold, and “as to descending, I shall make my own arrangements.”

  5. max

    Bar Beach Swimmer, Hilary Mantel’s version of Thomas More as a scheming, duplicitous enemy of reason and progress is the redrafted and updated modern view of this English saint. Her novels are widely praised. Mantel just matches in malevolence the Richard Dawkins/ Christopher Hitchens take on religion and believers.

    The Robert Bolt and Peter Ackroyd versions of saintly, good humoured resistance against tyranny could not be left untouched by these Western iterations of the Taliban.

  6. Mr Rusty, don’t know how we will stop trannies talking to kiddies

    At one time this was never an issue. A knuckle sandwich was the resolution. Wilson Gavin reacted against the front. He didn’t go to the source. Not that what he did was wrong.
    He is a hero. Diamond fucking whatever will always be the way she he or it is. But who allowed Diamond to read stories to kids? The local Government.
    Brisbaneites. Man up.

  7. Bar Beach Swimmer

    THas to be deceased

    If Sinc smoted Numbers, he would be ideal.

    +1000

  8. Bar Beach Swimmer

    max
    #3292657, posted on January 15, 2020 at 12:17 am

    +1

  9. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3292656, posted on January 15, 2020 at 12:03 am

    There’s the true measure of a man.

    (I didn’t say man/woman he/she/they because that’s plain crap!)

  10. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Oh well, everyone’s gone home…
    Goodnight

  11. Porter

    Rex Mango
    #3292638, posted on January 14, 2020 at 11:31 pm

    I think they are heading for splitsville. Harry will miss home and come back. And Maj will protect him. Much as I like the Queen I am under no illusions as to how the royal family look down on plebs. The Queen never forgave the people for taking away the royal yacht. I remember some years back when Charles permitted a photo session with him and his sons on the ski fields somewhere in Europe and he was caught on mike just muttering to the boys mocking them all and the plebs who wanted the photos. It went way beyond just a dad joking with his boys. I am happy to be a monarchist but I am purely for selfish purposes. I’d rather the queen than some insufferable woke “president” or “head of state”.

  12. Porter

    I am amusing myself at how the Sussex spin machine is trying to rewrite the Meghan not allowed to call in due to insecure phone line to “Harry and Meghan decided it was not necessary”. Oh they are waging war on the Royal House alright.

  13. Armadillo

    The Queen won’t always be around to keep the rabble in hand. Wisdom is the word that comes to mind.

    You don’t get people of her caliber very often. The dynasty will be dead when she draws her last breath, however, what remains to be seen is if William can fill those massive shoes. Charles certainly can’t.

    It’s no doubt a question that has plagued Britain before.

  14. Mitch M.

    Not for everyone but those so interested might find it enjoyable. A bit slow to start but a good introduction to the amazing efficiency and structures involved in energy production for cells. It is all about mitochondria. The electron transport chain is an incredible piece of kit, a remarkably efficient energy generation process.

  15. Armadillo

    Not for everyone

    Mitch is refering to you, Arky.

    Just keep scribbling away with your pretend fountain pen.

  16. Armadillo

    Arky was doing OK until he started posting videos of himself hacking his running shoes to pieces.

    Without being judgemental, it’s sort of a warning sign.

  17. Armadillo

    I’m pondering one last run at it.

  18. classical_hero

    Someone’s going to have nightmares after the cricket.

  19. classical_hero

    Flawless. A 10 wicket victory.

  20. Armadillo

    Just kidding. No more record attempts.

    The Cat is a great place, but nUmbers and the various reincarnations of Septimus are making it unbearable. As they intend.

    It took about two comments to get thrown off the Bob Ellis site. My admiration for Bob has grown since his death.

  21. From The Daily Mail.
    James Packer and his wife issued a statement on Monday amid growing criticism of News Corp and Fox’s handling of the crisis
    They said they were ‘frustrated’ that there was an ‘ongoing denial’ of climate change across James’ father’s Australian newspapers
    The Australian newspapers have, under criticism, insisted they are not denying climate change but presenting all points of view
    They – along with conservative American outlets – have pointed to claims that arson may to be blame for the fires and not climate change
    27 people have died and hundreds of millions of animals have been killed in the fires”.

    Seems reporting both sides is climate denial.

    Hopefully Rupert is not leaving his newspapers to James.

  22. Armadillo

    Catallaxy is now the home of left wing trolls. They get debunked every single day. Time after time.

    And yet, they are allowed back to spruick more bullshit. Every single day.

    That’s not “debate”, that’s bullshit.

    If anyone here can point me to a single instance where nUmbers has said “Yeah, sorry mate, I got that wrong”, then let me know.

  23. Armadillo

    Dead set give-aways you are dealing with a leftard:

    a) humourless
    b) unrepentative
    c) unrelenting

    That’s not a debate about ideas.

  24. Nick

    Harry and Meghan trademarked ‘Sussex Royal’ brand in the UK in June last year
    But lawyer in the US has applied for the trademark after finding it was available
    Jared Fogelson says he wanted to ‘teach the couple a lesson about planning’

    Suck shit

  25. Arky

    Dead set give-aways you are dealing with a leftard:
    a) humourless
    b) unrepentative
    c) unrelenting

    ..
    Correct.
    You are not just a disease- ridden abomination against man and nature.
    You are a perceptive, disease- ridden abomination against man and nature.

  26. Mark A

    Chip & Tina are the same

  27. feelthebern

    Blackstone buying Mandalay Bay casino from MGM.
    We’ll never know the truth behind the shooting.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Well.
    Fancy pants hot spot was no faster with the cartoons than the old fashioned way.

  29. Porter

    Rowsen shows, yet again, that the left can’t do humour or even parody; all they have is bitter, twisted hate. Thomas at least manages to be funny.
    Thank you, Tom.

  30. Tom

    Porter, what I find fascinating about Rowson is that he’s a freelancer and tailors his ‘toons to his audience: for the Guardian, he caters for the rabid communist chattering classes and, for the Times, he tones it right back down so it’s almost comprehensible to the normies.

    However, he is, as you say, an archetypical, humourless, smartarse knowall. Such revolting people are the media class. They actually hate their audience.

  31. mh

    BrettW
    #3292675, posted on January 15, 2020 at 2:00 am
    From The Daily Mail.
    James Packer and his wife issued a statement on Monday amid growing criticism of News Corp and Fox’s handling of the crisis
    They said they were ‘frustrated’ that there was an ‘ongoing denial’ of climate change across James’ father’s Australian newspapers…

    James Murdoch I think you mean.

    All the Murdoch children are ‘tards.

  32. feelthebern

    Unverified reports of the Patriots clearing out Tom Brady’s locker.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    James (Murdoch) and his wife issued a statement on Monday amid growing criticism of News Corp and Fox’s handling of the crisis
    They said they were ‘frustrated’ that there was an ‘ongoing denial’ of climate change across James’ father’s Australian newspapers…

    And, of course, Media Watch will run a full episode on the evils of newspaper owners and their sprogs interfering with editorial independence.

  34. feelthebern

    When was the last time Media Watch aimed its resources at the ABC ?
    Back when I used to watch it, 15-20 years ago, it was a regular occurrence.

  35. Rockdoctor

    James (Murdoch) and his wife issued a statement on Monday amid growing criticism of News Corp and Fox’s handling of the crisis
    They said they were ‘frustrated’ that there was an ‘ongoing denial’ of climate change across James’ father’s Australian newspapers…

    Bwahahahaha, this for serious. Statement may fit Fox but News.com? Really? Most of Sky News was a shade less of News.com as well. Not only that they were active participants in one of the biggest character assassinations on a sitting PM I have ever seen (& I am no fan of Morrison).

  36. struth

    Morrison has no character to assassinate.
    He won’t be remembered for the right reasons if remembered at all.

  37. 2dogs

    When was the last time Media Watch aimed its resources at the ABC ?
    Back when I used to watch it, 15-20 years ago, it was a regular occurrence.

    Hasn’t happened since Stuart Littlemore left.

  38. Porter

    Interesting background on Rowson, Tom. Thamks. And that’s exactly it: they hate their audience.

  39. jo

    Dillo, it’s great to see you have escaped from Arkys basement.

  40. Porter

    An Australian Border Force officer who believed she had been in a “loving relationship” with a colleague for almost two years is suing her former lover for defamation after discovering he had secretly accused her of being a sexual predator, a Queensland court has heard.

    I don’t think that I want to read the rest of this.

  41. calli

    Porter
    #3292624, posted on January 14, 2020 at 11:04 pm
    FYI. Diamond Goodrim is a spoof name of Delta Goodrem.

    All cross dressers transwomen and drag queens parody women. The latter try to make money off it. They are among the most misogynist of men.

    Remarkable that none of the wokerati haven’t cottoned on to this. Or, if they have, they’re like the Koreans in Steve’s “Do The Hustle” NK video.

    Keep applauding, comrades.

  42. hzhousewife

    It increasingly appears that we will have to accept that the science is settled and that climate change (usually expressed as glowball warmening) is a FACT, according to the powers that be (in Australia at least).

    Now what?

    What exactly is going to be made to happen next?

  43. Porter

    Well hzhousewife, someone better tell the CSIRO as they are telling us we are entering a phase of global cooling due to grand solar minima. Someone tell the blonde as well.

  44. egg_

    Diamond Goodrim is a spoof name of Delta Goodrem.

    Did some fvcktard Academic have to run a computer analysis to discover that?
    /Slaps forehead

  45. egg_

    the CSIRO as they are telling us we are entering a phase of global cooling due to grand solar minima.

    “How dare you!”

  46. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. I quite liked the rowson toon. It was really, really silly.

  47. egg_

    “How dare you!”

    No wonder Nord thriller genre all look constipated.

  48. DrBeauGan

    And I want to make it clear that Meh Gan is no relation.

  49. calli

    However, he is, as you say, an archetypical, humourless, smartarse knowall. Such revolting people are the media class. They actually hate their audience.

    Except for those three brave ones in Iraq. Integrity in spades.

  50. egg_

    What exactly is going to be made to happen next?

    The U.N. is not doing enough!
    Not enough countries are sticking to their Paris commitments!
    More austere measures are required, obviously.
    Scotty from Marketing is working on it as we speak.
    /Global Fascism

  51. Porter

    The thing is hz, that all the warmies are either deaf or disingenuous. They keep framing the debate around climate change denial ( itself denigrating the seriousness of the Holocaust by comparing it to their mindless petty politics) whereas the real issue is whether and to what extent man is responsible for it. No one has convinced me of the fact but even if you accept anthropogenic climate change the warmies have to demonstrate what difference it would make if Australia even went to zero emissions (never mind if it is possible to do so without de-industrialising). Naturally they don’t want to touch that.

  52. Shy Ted

    Don’t forget, if we don’t mention it, he won’t mention it. Mission impossible.

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    It increasingly appears as though the punters in Little Britain were ahead of their time.

    The regular pieces featuring the two of them sporting three day beards, dresses and wigs primping along the street declaring to all and sundry ‘Oooooh, yes, we’re ladeeeeeeees’ before pissing all over the floor.

    That shit was funny, in part because it was so stoooopid.

    Now we have local governments falling over themselves to bring these repressed tards into libraries to read to children, and who call gay people homophobes.

    History will, in the fullness of time, piss itself laughing at us.

  54. feelthebern

    The robber barons never left the US.

    Amazon Lifts Its Ban on FedEx Ground for Third-Party Prime Shipments

    Amazon lifted its ban on FedEx ground delivery for Prime orders shipped by third-party merchants, nearly a month after blocking the service.

    This move by Amazon has destroyed many third party merchants.
    Killing business models over the Christmas period.
    Zero chance of the DoJ doing anything & how can smaller operators pursue Amazon.
    This is the kind of thing Tucker is usually all over, but zero coverage so far.

  55. calli

    It increasingly appears that we will have to accept that the science is settled and that climate change…is a FACT

    Of course it’s a fact. What an increasing number of shills, grifters and halfwits want me to believe that it’s caused by humanity and will result in glowball warming.

    No dice.

    I will never accept anything I know to be a lie. Others, naturally, are welcome to believe whatever they like.

  56. DrBeauGan

    The thing is hz, that all the warmies are either deaf or disingenuous. They keep framing the debate around climate change denial ( itself denigrating the seriousness of the Holocaust by comparing it to their mindless petty politics) whereas the real issue is whether and to what extent man is responsible for it.

    No. You mistake the issue. If you do not embrace the global warming bullshit, you are a heretic. This is what a denialist is.. It has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with the true faith. There is no point in using reason, arguments or appeal to data. It’s a matter of faith.

  57. feelthebern

    Microsoft, even at its most cvntiest, never tried the shit that Amazon does.

  58. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Cohenite,
    In the OOT you made some great comments about the how to stand up to the Left. Your arguments are in good company with Andrew Breitbart’s strategy for attacking the Left.

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/01/13/employee-1-alex-marlow-details-andrew-breitbarts-vision-in-long-form-profile/

  59. Knuckle Dragger

    Further on drag queens and infantile naming conventions:

    Alice Springs, apparently, prides itself on having a thriving homo community. Only among whitey, though, as the locals tend to frown on that sort of thing. Anyway, they have their own pride march every year, which I know very little about except that last year social meeja showed me an article on it, along with a six foot slightly bearded bloke heavily slathered in makeup and wearing a scrubby blonde wig.

    The bloke was part of the Alice Springs Police’s contribution to the upcoming homo parade, and was advertising himself as having the name of ‘Clitorally.’

    The article was from the NT coppers’ southern media unit, which was another entity I knew nothing about until that day.

    Comments were open on this little gem, so I fucking well gave it to them. Their job wasn’t to ponce down the street in women’s clothes, their attempt to be a part of every section of the community would amount to fuck all and be counterproductive to the greater part of the population there, what sort of message does it send etc etc etc.

    They replied to me, saying that I should be supportive of their innovation and being part of the wider something something.

    I said I’d be a lot more supportive if they were catching crooks.

  60. calli

    This is the sort of smarmy, triumphalist crud the truth is up against (from the other thread):

    m0nty
    #3292569, posted on January 14, 2020 at 9:47 pm
    cohenite, you can quote other people who are wrong until you are blue in the face, that doesn’t make them any less wrong. The alarmists predicted that what has happened this summer would happen. Any bleating by you is irrelevant. You have lost the argument. Reality bites.

    It amounts to

    – our scientists are better than your scientists BECAUSE
    – we predicted what would happen in Australia this summer so we are right
    – you are irrelevant, and your scientists have lost
    – nah, nah na nah nah

    It’s the “because” that’s the intellectually insipid zinger in the childish argument.

    As BeauGan says, it’s a matter of belief, not reason.

  61. Boambee John

    Armadillo

    If anyone here can point me to a single instance where nUmbers has said “Yeah, sorry mate, I got that wrong”, then let me know.

    Has he apologised for his slanderously false allegation madecagainst Bruce of Newcastle yet? No? Thought not!

    He still hasn’t worked out that New Georgia was not Australian sovereign territory in 1945.

  62. Bar Beach Swimmer

    It’s a matter of faith.

    So I suppose that when global warming/climate change is brought up in conversation we should respond with ‘I’m an Anglican/Roman Catholic/Presbyterian/or that crowd that follow Starwars’.

    It reminds that when Jehovah’s Witnesses would turn up at her door, my grandfather’s cousin would say that she was a Methylated Spiritualist.

  63. Pretty bad now that none of the graphs cannot be trusted. People take you as being simply dishonest.

  64. Knuckle Dragger

    I for one, and on the back of yesterday’s hilarity, am hoping Liability Bob turns up with a full head of steam later and starts an argument over trading and the market with JC.

    Or how to run a pub with Sal. Or geology with Rockdoctor, or detention centres with mole.

    Or the relative benefits of taffeta vs silk with Lizzie, or the architecture of the Walgett cinema with P.

  65. feelthebern

    Alex Turnbull has been active on twitter.
    He really lives in a bubble.

  66. shatterzzz

    Hi, Tom .. noticed you saying you turned a mobile into a wifi hotspot .. make sure you have unlimited data on it because hot-spotting laps up data usage.

  67. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    English Paul Thomas and American Tina Norton today both on similar memes

  68. Bar Beach Swimmer

    He did say, when I pointed out that how could he have taken that bunch of V***[email protected] boat kids to the movies to see To Kill a Mockingbird in 1976?* when they didn’t arrive until 1976/1977 – all 111 of them including adults and beginning with five males in April 1976 – that, IIRC, he had possibly got the dates wrong. But only possibly! Does that count?

    *His answer was so boring, convoluted and cover-upish, btw is that a word? – So not going back to check because I’ll never get those minutes of my life back.

  69. The end is nigh!

    In 2020:
    There will be rain and floods
    There will be drought
    There will be fire
    There will be pestilence*

    All are safe bets.

    * that might be petulance, someonel check with numbers

  70. OldOzzie

    Meanwhile we in Australia head back to the Dark Ages!

    Have you hugged a fracker today? Our oil expansion keeps us safe from Iranian meddling.

    For decades, US foreign policy and defense strategy revolved around keeping the flow of oil from the Middle East going. Now it’s an afterthought.

  71. OldOzzie

    Hillary Clinton Vindicated On Corruption Charges? Hardly
    I & I Editorial Board
    January 14, 2020

    Last week, the Washington Post reported that the Justice Department had wound down a Hillary Clinton-related inquiry after finding “nothing of consequence.” That set off a series of Hosannas from the allegedly non-partisan press, which seems to notice quid pro quos only when they involve a Republican.

    A quick review of the flagrantly corrupt dealings of the Clinton Foundation is in order.

  72. Say yer prayers sinners!
    Yer time has come!

  73. calli

    Iranians complaining that Facebook censored positive posts about Soleimani.

    Facebook is blocked in Iran.

  74. Tom

    Shatterzzz, I’m in the process of updating my Telstra data deal, as I’ve been mindlessly renewing an uncompetitive deal that was first offered a decade ago. Should be no drama. PS: posting the ‘toons each day eats only a couple of hundred megs.

  75. OldOzzie

    Iran’s regime faces a reckoning with its own people

    By Star Editorial Board

    At last, some positive news out of Iran. The country’s repressive and incompetent government is facing a reckoning with its own people.

    For a brief moment in the wake of the American assassination of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, it seemed that Iranians were, quite understandably, rallying around their leadership. There’s nothing like a foreign threat to promote unity at home.

    But in the past three days many brave Iranians have returned to the streets, picking up on the mass protests that rocked Iran’s government for much of last year.

    This time they’re voicing outrage at the criminal incompetence made all too clear by the government’s admission that it was indeed responsible for “accidentally” shooting down UIA Flight 752 last week with the loss of 176 lives, 57 of them Canadians trying to make their way home.

  76. Bar Beach Swimmer

    For decades, US foreign policy and defense strategy revolved around keeping the flow of oil from the Middle East going. Now it’s an afterthought.

    OO, to quote Trump – @winning!

  77. Mother Lode

    Dead set give-aways you are dealing with a leftard:
    a) humourless
    b) unrepentative
    c) unrelenting

    d) Fluent in inaccuracies
    e) Thinks the person who speaks the last word (however stupid) is the winner.
    f) Depicts third party figures as heroes or vaudevillian fiends – guess how they assign these traits.

    Point ‘d’ I have come across repeatedly. It used to work in a debate where my interlocutor would make a grand brazen statement as if factual which I did not pretend to know about. Turns out neither did they – see point ‘f’. Numbers does it here repeatedly, and most amusingly when he posts links to items that contradict the point he is pretending to make. He seems rarely to read his links.

    Point ‘e’ is also commonplace. You mention a name and the give a dismissive laugh without engaging the point asserted. Bolta is a ultra-right madman – the fact that no one has been able to find ten Aborigines (or even one, I think) who was removed from their parents because they were Aboriginal (as opposed to neglected, abused, never mind the ones sent off by their parents for an education) can be ignored because he is a far-right columnist for hated, wicked News. Robert Manne is a public intellectual – doubt a word of his at your own peril. Tim Flannery has no motivations other than to save the world from itself, while Gina Rinehart cares for nothing but money and is compromised by a rapacious instinct to turn the earth into a hellish underworld if she can get a dollar.

    The best a lefty can hope for is to create the impression of winning an argument, but it is all plasterboard and tinsel.

    And, behold! Q&A!

  78. Cassie of Sydney

    “If anyone here can point me to a single instance where nUmbers has said “Yeah, sorry mate, I got that wrong”, then let me know.”

    No..he obfuscates, he changes subject, he slithers and slimes, he dodges and evades…even a worm has more backbone than the Toowoomba Turd. It’s his shtick…..he doesn’t know how to be honest.

  79. OldOzzie

    Steve Hilton: The GOP establishment is dead, thanks to the Trump Revolution. And that’s fantastic news

    Here’s how I see things at the end of a momentous week for the Trump presidency and the start of what could be another defining seven days. This show is called “The Next Revolution” but I want to talk about the “Trump Revolution” because I don’t think there’s been proper recognition of the substance and significance of what this president is doing.

    It’s completely different from what we’ve seen before. It doesn’t fit into the establishment’s traditional ideological boxes and that’s why they waste our time with pointless political games like impeachment.

    We saw the new approach clearly with Iran. The Democrats, never-Trumpers and their media lackeys lurched wildly from calling Trump weak to branding him a warmonger.

    But his strategy has been consistent from day one. He is anti-war, but he is also anti-weak. No, he doesn’t want to invade deserts of sand like the neocons, but he doesn’t want to put his head in the sand, like the isolation nuts, either.

    This is the Trump Revolution: Pragmatic, non-ideological. He approaches issues as a problem-solving businessman.

    It’s actually a revolution in ideas and it goes way beyond foreign policy. He is combining the best of traditional conservative ideas with positive populism, appointing conservative judges and leading the way on criminal justice reform, cutting taxes and boosting family leave.

    Cutting regulations, by the way, given a massive boost last week with new plans to reform the environmental bureaucracy that’s blocking infrastructure construction and cutting low wage immigration.

    The result? Well, we know the story by now, but we see new chapters every month.

  80. OldOzzie

    They’re like pampered aristocrats in pre-revolutionary France in powdered wigs and fake beauty spots as they witter to each other, “My dear, Trump is so vulgar!”

    Well, maybe he is. But if you’re someone who has finally got a job after years on the scrap heap, you’ll take that over elegant failure.

  81. Mater

    The alarmists predicted that what has happened this summer would happen. Any bleating by you is irrelevant. You have lost the argument. Reality bites.

    For Monty’s benefit: I’m a AGW sceptic, and even I predicted what would happen this summer. Blind Freddy could have, but not using models, using commonsense and my own eyes.

    Mater
    #3210433, posted on November 13, 2019 at 9:55 am
    Coming into the bushfire season, it’s good to see that at least one council has it’s emergency planning priorities squared away…

    Read it and weep.

    If we are short of resources to do risk reduction burns, it’s because we are paying people to write this shit!

    Mater
    #3210461, posted on November 13, 2019 at 10:12 am

    Mater, that link you just posted is terrifying and demonstrates exactly what is wrong with these loons/bureaucrats.

    Yeah. Such a policy would be more at home in a Kabul Government Department but it’s ok…”the Greens aren’t in power in” the Macedon Ranges.

    Mater
    #3210468, posted on November 13, 2019 at 10:19 am

    Mount Macedon got wiped out in 83 from memory

    It did and if you go to the Street View link below and spin around 360 degrees, you’ll see that come summer one spark will see it erupt as never before.

  82. dover_beach

    The alarmists predicted that what has happened this summer would happen. Any bleating by you is irrelevant. You have lost the argument. Reality bites.

    Yes, David Peckham did predict that increasing fuelloads, whose removal was slowed by Green policy, would lead to the devastating fires seen this summer. I guess that was the plan all along.

  83. Cassie of Sydney

    And the Toowoomba Turd…premier Jooo hater that he is…..doesn’t quite match the absolute squalidness of 8th Toilet Block. Toilet Block’s comments yesterday about that young QLD man were grotesque. And I have noticed with Toilet Block that, as with his previous aliases called Grigory and Rae, he can’t help himself…..he is getting more offensive by the day….his love of stalking other Cats is already showing through and Sinclair needs to be advised.

  84. OldOzzie

    We Can’t Trust the Media to Report Honestly on Iran

    It’s hard enough watching journalists blaming the United States for the Islamic Republic’s perniciousness or exaggerating the importance of “revered leader” Qasem Soleimani while minimizing the actions of the courageous Iranians who oppose the mullahs. Even before a pro-Iranian regime bias infected much of the institutional media, conservatives were reading outlets like the New York Times through a prism of skepticism. In general, though, one could trust that the underlying facts and framing were basically correct. The past four years have made even that impossible.

    Now, I realize that theory, one that suggests Trump’s actions include some logical decision-making, doesn’t fit neatly into the media’s hysteria over President McCrazy. But it may well be true in this case. If there were a basic standard of reporting, rather than a tendency to spin everything into a scandal, the public would be far better equipped to decide.

  85. OldOzzie

    We Can’t Trust the Media to Report Honestly on Iran

    It’s hard enough watching journalists blaming the United States for the Isl*mic Republic’s perniciousness or exaggerating the importance of “revered leader” Qasem Soleimani while minimizing the actions of the courageous Iranians who oppose the mullahs. Even before a pro-Iranian regime bias infected much of the institutional media, conservatives were reading outlets like the New York Times through a prism of skepticism. In general, though, one could trust that the underlying facts and framing were basically correct. The past four years have made even that impossible.

    Now, I realize that theory, one that suggests Trump’s actions include some logical decision-making, doesn’t fit neatly into the media’s hysteria over President McCrazy. But it may well be true in this case. If there were a basic standard of reporting, rather than a tendency to spin everything into a scandal, the public would be far better equipped to decide.

  86. OldOzzie

    Little Women Goes to War

    “Woke” critics express outrage that men stay away from a movie with little to offer them.

  87. OldOzzie

    TRUCKIES VS CARAVANNERS

    Allegedly, the caravan and trucking fraternities have been at war with each other. This war is played out on our nation’s roads. The battles take place in roadhouse car parks and roadside parking bays. The propaganda war, however, wages on social media.

    ‘War is mainly a catalogue of blunders’ – Winston Churchill

  88. If you repent and sell your V8, you may yet be saved.

  89. P

    Nancy Pelosi Announces House Vote to Transmit Articles of Impeachment Tomorrow

    WASHINGTON DC – […] The resolution the House will vote on Wednesday will do three things: transmit the articles of impeachment against Trump; name the team of impeachment managers; and provide funding for the trial. Democrats and Republicans will have five minutes per side to debate the resolution on the floor, according to rules established during the House impeachment debate in December.

  90. stackja

    Americans are consuming more alcohol per capita now than in the time leading up to Prohibition, when alcohol opponents successfully made the case that excessive drinking was ruining family life.

  91. 1735099

    And the Toowoomba Turd…premier Jooo hater that he is…..doesn’t quite match the absolute squalidness of 8th Toilet Block.

    Coprolalia, literally ‘shit speech’, is a prominent feature of Tourette’s syndrome.
    I’d get that seen to, Cassie.
    It may not be Tourette’s – but you need to check it out.
    The symptoms are starkly obvious.

  92. cohenite

    Cohenite,
    In the OOT you made some great comments about the how to stand up to the Left. Your arguments are in good company with Andrew Breitbart’s strategy for attacking the Left.
    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/01/13/employee-1-alex-marlow-details-andrew-breitbarts-vision-in-long-form-profile/

    I forget what I said but it’s good that Breitbart is what it is. Murdoch is stuffed and when the old guy kicks the bucket the kids will turn Fox and the other organs into mush and typical left wing gibberish.

  93. 1735099

    Americans are consuming more alcohol per capita now than in the time leading up to Prohibition, when alcohol opponents successfully made the case that excessive drinking was ruining family life.

    Hardly surprising, when you consider who a minority of them elected in 2016.
    Some of it would be a result of buyer’s remorse, some guilt for failing to vote, and some (who voted for Clinton), utter frustration.

  94. Top Ender

    Very exciting.

    Here I am in Hobart, and Bruce Pascoe is speaking at a festival just down the road in Cygnet.

    Might go down and hear the old bloke doing his shtick.

    On second thoughts, maybe water dad’s garden for him instead.

  95. Cassie of Sydney

    “Palilalia” literally ‘repetitive speech’, is a prominent feature of Tourette’s syndrome.
    I’d get that seen to, Turd.
    It may not be Tourette’s – but you really need to get it checked out.
    The symptoms are starkly obvious to all of us here…….

    Vietnam….conscription…Vietnam…conscription….Vietnam…conscription.

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    Convection underway already in Victoristan. Rumours of rain.

  97. Ye shall be judged for CO2 become 0.04% of the atmosphere and cast into the fires of hell!

  98. Hardly surprising, when you consider who a minority of them elected in 2016.

    Do you mean supporters of Hillary Clinton plus a lot of electoral fraud?

    Apparently old Hillsy was so paralytic on election night she couldn’t swipe up to answer a phone call to concede.

  99. WTF mate?

    Evangelical and can’t do statistics. Same problem.

  100. Your only chance of salvation is to provide me with a government subsidy.

  101. An Australian Border Force officer who believed she had been in a “loving relationship” with a colleague for almost two years is suing her former lover for defamation after discovering he had secretly accused her of being a sexual predator, a Queensland court has heard.

    Get with the times.

    Women are unaccountable.

    Enjoy the decline.

  102. incoherent rambler
    #3292787, posted on January 15, 2020 at 8:45 am

    Your only chance of salvation is to provide me with a government subsidy.

    Okay sir, this will be done by means of direct debit, but first I need you to give me administrative rights over your PC with Team Viewer.

  103. cohenite

    The only interesting infographics we want from you is your funeral notice.

  104. struth

    Kid puts his hand up to ask a question at tranny reading day.
    Ms Goodrim, why did you change it to Goodrim from Goodrem?

  105. If ye repent*
    The oceans will cease rising
    The fires will stop
    The evil CO2 will go away
    The earth will cool
    And the whales will be happy

    *requires a donation to Rambler Inc.

  106. That’s a good idea. There are huge numbers of youtube channels providing a living for people with some very basic formats and subscriptions in 6 and 7 figure sums that provide a good living. They have ads, the unavoidable ones are typically quick and the others you can click through after 5 secs.

    Check out how “media company” Jukin Media is trying to extort small content producers by ignoring fair use and blackmailing people with copyright strikes.

    What they are doing is so close to fraudulent, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a criminal investigation by the CA AG.

  107. min

    Changing Beliefs . I trained with Albert Ellis, father of RET aCognitive Behavioural Therapy , who proposed that irrational thinking / beliefs led to humans making themselves anxious depressed or angry . However just like the light bulb and psychologists joke, people have got to want to change.
    A frequent gentle challenge to clients was Do you like feeling this way? Or perhaps does getting so angry make you feel better or solve the problem? Some actually get something out of being miserable and being the victim Next question then is What do you get out of it? ( does not have to be positive)
    People such as AGWs would be in this category hard to work with but not impossible . I use a lot of humour

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some interesting infographics here.

    LOL. I love how they have sophisticated graphics from 1910.

    Lying oversensitive models by lying BoM regurgitated by lying ABC.

    And isn’t it weird how they start in 1910 right at the bottom of the thermohaline cycle, and not in 1900 in the middle of the Federation Drought.

    Why did they do that Numbers? Is BoM trying to hide something?

  109. OldOzzie

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3292781, posted on January 15, 2020 at 8:42 am
    “Palilalia” literally ‘repetitive speech’, is a prominent feature of Tourette’s syndrome.
    I’d get that seen to, Turd.
    It may not be Tourette’s – but you really need to get it checked out.
    The symptoms are starkly obvious to all of us here…….

    Vietnam….conscription…Vietnam…conscription….Vietnam…conscription.

    Too Dumb to work out how to Avoid Conscription

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    Terrible news about Roger Scruton.
    There’s fewer than 5 intellectuals left on earth now.

    “The greatest conservative philosopher of our age”.

  111. calli

    On the alcohol consumption.

    How on earth would they know how much was consumed pre-Prohibition, given that home brewing/distilling was popular. And that ale was safer than so-called potable water?

    Easy now because retail sales can be accessed. And when they say “alcohol” what % per drink? Wine has become increasingly popular in the States, even in the past 15 years that I’ve been visiting.

    I have no doubt that Americans are drinking more alcohol now than, say, the fifties. I can think of any number of social reasons other than despair at their politics.

  112. People such as AGWs would be in this category hard to work with but not impossible .

    Good luck.
    Facts, data and reason to ecoloons is like the morning sun to Dracula. They run and hide.

  113. struth

    Hardly surprising, when you consider who a minority of them elected in 2016.
    Some of it would be a result of buyer’s remorse, some guilt for failing to vote, and some (who voted for Clinton), utter frustration.

    Or now they can afford it.

  114. Geriatric Mayfly

    An unusual photo of Marlene
    Talking of portraits. In that Roger Scruton vid posted yesterday there were two by Rembrandt that required a long engagement of the ‘Pause’ key.
    The digital reproductions were seemingly flawless.
    For the pedants though, those bold brush strokes and finger daubing might be missing.

  115. calli

    Thou shalt not cite any Australian temperature records prior to 1910. Do do so is a sin against Gaia and punishable by shaming and shunning.

  116. John64

    Mount Macedon got wiped out in 83 from memory. It did and if you go to the Street View link below and spin around 360 degrees, you’ll see that come summer one spark will see it erupt as never before.

    The Greens on the local Council call all the shots.

    There has not been 1kg of fuel load reduction or 1m2 of backburning performed in the Macedon Ranges since Ash Wednesday 37 years ago.

    It is the next bushfire ticking timebomb in Victoriastan waiting to explode. And it will make Ash Wednesday look tame by comparison. It isn’t a question of if; but when.

  117. OldOzzie

    Jussie Smollett’s Google Headache

    If Jussie Smollett had last year pleaded guilty to some minor charge, done 90 days of community service, and paid a substantial fine to reimburse the $130,000 worth of overtime costs rolled up by Chicago police detectives investigating his ludicrous assault claims, he might today be in full rebound mode. Picture it: the tearful, dramatic mea culpa with Robin Roberts. A bold admission — “This is on me” — followed by a deflection of blame to drugs or alcohol or the dark demons of hate we all know are lurking out there, waiting for third-tier television stars to emerge from sandwich shops. A charity concert. A blessing from Al Sharpton. Some light-hearted banter with Stephen Colbert. Then, gradual forgiveness and maybe another TV deal.

    What Smollett did instead looks increasingly stupid. He admitted nothing and even doubled down on his fantasy tale of a late-night attack by men supposedly roaming the streets with a noose and a bottle of bleach. He was handed the opportunity by the office of State’s Attorney Kim Foxx, which dropped charges without demanding a guilty plea because he had supposedly already been punished enough, by secretly serving a few hours’ community service and forfeiting a bond of which he paid a mere $10,000. But if he was the victim of a crime, why should he forfeit one dollar or agree to one hour of community service? Worse: The real criminals are still out there!

    Led by the then-mayor and the then–CPD superintendent, outrage about Smollett’s lies caused the appointment of a special prosecutor, Dan Webb. So the story lives on. Smollett has not been nailed, and Chicago wants him nailed. He will get nailed. The postman always rings twice.

  118. Project Veritas actually got a high level Bernie staffer.

    Re-education camps.

    I’m not joking.

    https://pluralist.com/project-veritas-bernie-video/

    Bernie 2020 Staffer in Undercover Video: ‘Nazi’ Trump Supporters Will Be ‘Reeducated’ When We Win

  119. struth

    Hey Cassie, challenged McSniffy the other day to denounce Moossie terrorism and say he has nothing against the Joooooish race, and again, the old Nazi goes silent.

  120. OldOzzie

    Despite Tweeting Often About Iran This Week, No 2020 Democratic Contender Has Commented on Iranian Protests

    Whether it’s anti s*mitism or the oppression of the Iranian people, the left has no interest in drawing attention to any issue unless the problem can be attributed to President Trump.

  121. Herodotus

    The Australian seems to be running more and more climate alarmism and anti-coal articles each day. By coincidence it’s being reported that Murdoch’s youngest sprog is a climate alarmism convert.

  122. Mother Lode

    Rowsen shows, yet again, that the left can’t do humour or even parody; all they have is bitter, twisted hate.

    Rowsen?

    Meticulously executed vacuity?

    England’s Rowsen and our Rowe – related, perhaps?

  123. Cassie of Sydney

    “struth
    #3292812, posted on January 15, 2020 at 9:07 am
    Hey Cassie, challenged McSniffy the other day to denounce Moossie terrorism and say he has nothing against the Joooooish race, and again, the old Nazi goes silent.”

    But of course….he’s not called the Jooo hater for nothing. And I found it mildly amusing that he rushed to defend Ginger & Megs the other morning….probably because he’s jealous that Harry got to put on a Nazi uniform once…however we know our very own Nazi does it quietly in the comfort of his Toowoomba home.

  124. There has not been 1kg of fuel load reduction or 1m2 of backburning performed in the Macedon Ranges since Ash Wednesday 37 years ago.

    Wow.

    A rule from my youth was that undergrowth must be burnt before it reached one quarter of the tree height. i.e. If it reached 1/4 you had an unfixable disaster on your hands.
    How are we doing in Macedon?

  125. Porter

    I actually don’t believe 173whatevs ever was a teacher. Really, who would let such a psycho near children? The guy positively hates his life and hates everyone and kids are the first to pick up on such bitter shits and run a mile. No, the poo blogger of Catallaxy is a fantasist. Nasty and hate-filled. That’s why he gets a hard-on here every morning defecating on this blog No friends. No life.

  126. Cassie of Sydney

    “Herodotus
    #3292814, posted on January 15, 2020 at 9:09 am
    The Australian seems to be running more and more climate alarmism and anti-coal articles each day. By coincidence it’s being reported that Murdoch’s youngest sprog is a climate alarmism convert.”

    Yep..I have noticed that too….and they certainly joined in the hysteria against Morrison. And I have noticed more and more frustrated commentators. Well the newspaper will get its just desserts…..people will stop subscribing.

  127. OldOzzie

    Defence advised to walk away from French subs

    Ben Packham
    FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT

    A key adviser to the federal governmen­t was so concerned about the $80bn Future Sub­marine Project it warned Defence it should consider walking away from the French-built boats.

    A report by the Australian Nationa­l Audit Office released on Tuesday revealed the Naval Shipbuilding Advisory Board warned that Defence should consider whether proceeding with the project was in the national interest.

    The ANAO said in the report the submarines’ design phase was running nine months late, and “Defence cannot demonstrate that its expenditure of $396m … has been fully effective” in achieving key milestones.

    The report also revealed Defence­ had approved the fabric­ation of complex hull parts for the first future submarine to be undertaken in France, rather than ­Australia, to guard against delays to the build schedule.

    The revelations follow the ­Defence Department’s admission to a Senate estimates hearing late last year that construction of the first boat had been pushed back by up to a year, and the cost to build and maintain all 12 submarines would reach $225bn over their 50-year lifespan.

    Defence told the ANAO that if the subs project was delayed by more than three years, it would “create a gap in navy’s submarine capability” that could affect plans for the nation’s Collins-class ­submarines.

    In a sign of the tensions between­ Defence and French shipbuilder Naval Group, the report said the government’s Naval Shipbuilding Advisory Board, chaired by former US Navy secret­ary Don Winter, warned in September 2018 that “Defence should assess whether program risks outweighed the benefits of proceeding”.

    At that time, Defence was struggling to negotiate a strategic partnering agreement with Naval Group. “The Naval Shipbuilding Advisory­ Board expressed a separate­ view that, even if the strategic partnering agreement negotiations were successful, Defence consider if proceeding is in the national interest,” Defence told the ANAO. “This consideration was represented in the advice to government seeking approval to enter the (SPA).”

    The agreement was finally signed in February last year and included a provision for Aust­ralia to break the contract if the subs were delayed or failed to deliver­ promised capability.

    Defence has previously warned of “high to extreme risk” to its naval shipbuilding prog­ram, with differing engineering methodologies between France and Australia cited as a potentially major issue.

    The Auditor-General said that establishing “an effective long-term partnership between Defence and Naval Group” was a key risk-mitigation measure.

    Opposition defence spokesman Richard Marles said government “mishandling” of the nation’s biggest ever defence acquisition­ posed major risks.

    “On all three measures of this program — on time of delivery, on the cost of the project, and on the amount of the Australian content — the numbers are all going the wrong way,” he said.

    Centre Alliance senator Rex Patrick said the ANAO report was “one of the most concerning reports I have ever seen”.

    “The alarm bells are ringing. If the minister is not hearing them, they need to be turned up,” Senator Patrick said. “Defence’s view that they can recover the schedule is naive at best.”

    But Defence Minister Linda Reynolds said the schedule delay had been essential to get the submarine design right.

    “Doing so will reduce costly changes and uncertainties while the Attack-class submarines are built, and will reduce the need for larger construction contingencies,” she said.

    She said the first submarine was still due to be delivered to the navy in 2035, as planned.

    The Naval Shipbuilding Advis­ory Board’s role is to provide­ expert, independent advice­ to the government on its $90bn shipbuilding program. Its membership includes three retired­ senior navy officers — Rear Admiral Thomas Eccle, Vice Admiral William Hilarides, and Vice-Admiral Paul Sullivan — and former Department of Education secretary Lisa Paul.

    Australian Strategic Policy Institute defence analyst Marcus Hellyer said the advice of the high-level board was normally confidential. “It’s the first time I have seen that gloomy assessment,” he said. Mr Hellyer said the potential “capability gap” was likely to refer to the risk of having fewer than six operational submarines at any point.

    He said it was now likely all six Collins-class boats would have to have their lives extended.

  128. Porter

    I noticed, Cassie, that the poo blogger never attempts to deny that he’s an anti-semite. He loves the label.

  129. Mark A

    I have no doubt that Americans are drinking more alcohol now than, say, the fifties.

    Could we correlate prices?
    Preferably as % of disposable income.

  130. struth

    Hey Monty,

    HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM……………Oh yes , I see it now, a vision, I can predict for certainty there are going to be good surfing waves at Bell’s beach one day, and also I can see, wait for it, Lake Eyre will flood again.
    There will be bushfires close to townies who light them and floods will ravish parts of Australia.
    My Crystal ball is not made in China so it is far more reliable than the one used by Flannery.

  131. OldOzzie

    The U.S. Navy Signs Up for 9 New Nuclear Submarines

    These nine submarines, eight of which will be new Block V Virginia-class submarines, is the Navy’s largest warship building deal ever.

    . The U.S. Navy will spend a record $22 billion for nine new Virginia-class submarines.
    . Most of the submarines will include the ability to carry and launch up to 40 cruise missiles.
    . The submarines will join the fleet in the mid to late 2020s.

  132. struth

    Thanks Dot.

    That’s the shit to be spread around.

  133. Mark A

    She said the first submarine was still due to be delivered to the navy in 2035, as planned.

    In 15 years?
    Honestly, why bother?

  134. John64

    If it reached 1/4 you had an unfixable disaster on your hands. How are we doing in Macedon?

    It is an unfixable disaster waiting to happen. This ship’s steaming straight at the iceberg and it’s too late to turn.

  135. OldOzzie

    The Natuna Sea Incident: How Indonesia Is Managing Its Bilateral Relationship With China

    Indonesia’s pragmatic, even-handed approach to the recent Natuna Sea incident shows how China’s rise can be managed.

    China’s latest use of grey zone fishing operations in the North Natuna Sea to challenge Indonesia’s sovereign right to fish and exploit the natural resources in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) appeared to be a victory at first glance. At one point, about 50 Chinese fishing vessels accompanied by two oversized white hulls fished unimpeded in Indonesia’s EEZ.

    As a countermeasure, Indonesia’s Maritime Security Agency (Bakamla), which was charged with law enforcement against illegal activities in Indonesia’s maritime jurisdiction, could only observe the situation. This limited action was due to the Bakamla’s limited resources.

    Yet, the Chinese fishing vessels sailed away on January 9, 2020 having only strengthened Indonesia’s resolve to safeguard its national interests. China also publicly executed a volte face to prioritize friendly bilateral relations and downplay differences in a statement by China’s foreign ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang on January 10. The incident underscored the limitations of unilateral coercion and the overall success of Indonesia’s public relations strategy.

    Firm Diplomatic Signalling, Restrained Maritime Response

  136. Boambee John

    m0nty says The alarmists predicted that what has happened this summer would happen.

    The alarmists, with their opposition to proper land management, made what happened this summer inevitable.

    It is easy for them to predict that something they caused would happen.

  137. OldOzzie

    CES Editors’ Choice Awards: The Most Exciting Tech for 2020

    The world’s biggest consumer electronics trade show is in full swing. Here are the products and gadgets that caught our eye.

  138. struth

    Kid puts his hand up to ask a question at tranny reading day.
    Ms Goodrim, why did you change it to Goodrim from Goodrem?

    Well kiddies, I like to lick and kiss men’s arseholes……………………..

    Liberal Party…………………let’s fund and defend this.

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, I did think the old thread was quite quiet late last nite. You wuz all here. Never mind, I am off to dance any blues away. They say it may rain in Sydney tomorrow, and we can all start singin’ in it.

    Cat meet up mooted? Great. Advance notice needed as the dance card is filling as the holiday period ends and life returns to sleepy town.

  140. Porter

    Really they should just jail Christopher Pyne, everybody at the Adelaide Advertiser, the South Australian government at that time and every other rent thinker who advocated for that disgusting disgusting submarine contract.

  141. Mother Lode

    Well hzhousewife, someone better tell the CSIRO as they are telling us we are entering a phase of global cooling due to grand solar minima.

    They will now be able to claim that warming caused by filthy humanity is being masked by the cooling – so the fact that the temperatures are stable will be proof of warming.

    They will greatly over estimate the rate of cooling. Now we will be trapped between two sets of flawed models – the one that inaccurately predicts cooling and ones that inaccurately predict warming.

  142. struth

    The only way to get per capita consumption is to divide sales per head.
    Numbers is so economically illiterate he comes onto a right wing blog to let us know Americans now have a higher disposable income, and more of them have it, as well.

  143. lotocoti

    It appears the Corbynistas still believe they were slaughtered electorally for not being socialist enough.
    I’m not sure flat beer will be a winner oop norf.

  144. Porter

    I actually wrote rent-seeker but somehow it got changed to thinker.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Wow, that’s pretty blunt, Struth.

    Speaking truthfully though. Libs should not support this lewd show for children.

  146. OldOzzie

    Joe Hockey’s farewell draws elite of US industry and politics

    Cameron Stewart
    WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT

    Joe Hockey is not leaving Washington quietly.

    A stunning who’s who of American political and business leaders will pay tribute to Australia’s outgoing ambassador at a gala farewell party on Saturday.

    Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have accepted invitations to join some 400 American and Australian powerbrokers who plan to attend the big Washington bash.

    Donald Trump’s acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, is among those who will speak and a long list of Trump cabinet ministers and advisers from Steven Mnuchin to Stephen Miller are also expected to attend as well as leading American CEOs.

    On the Australian side, former prime minister Tony Abbott and golfer Greg Norman will speak, while other attendees will include billionaire businessman Anthony Pratt and News Corp co-chairman Lachlan Murdoch and his wife Sarah.

    Donald Trump was also invited but couldn’t attend so instead he has invited Mr Hockey, a semi-regular golf partner of the President, into the Oval Office for a personal farewell on Wednesday (AEDT).

    The attendance of so many powerbrokers reflects the close ties that Mr Hockey has forged, especially with the Trump White House, but also more broadly in the US during his four-year term as ambassador.

    Mr Hockey’s stint in the country’s most important diplomatic post has been widely praised for helping Australia maintain a close relationship with Mr Trump and his key advisers — something that many other US allies have failed to do.

    Under Mr Hockey’s watch the US-Australia alliance survived several potential storms including the angry phone call between Mr Trump and then prime minister Malcolm Turnbull over the refugee deal in early 2017.

    In 2018, Australia was one of the only countries exempted from Mr Trump’s steel and aluminium tariffs while Mr Hockey also played an important role last year in defusing potential diplomatic tensions over Alexander Downer’s role in triggering the FBI’s Russia investigation.

    Asked what his proudest achievement was in Washington, Mr Hockey said “navigating this uncertain world with twists and turns everywhere”.

    “The greatest legacy I can leave is the thought that you can’t take the US alliance for granted,” he told The Australian.

    “You just need to keep working really hard at it more than ever.”

    Mr Hockey says that in an era where the US is more transactional with its alliances, Australia needs to keep closely and constantly engaged to ensure it protects its own interests.

    “In this world there is no regard for traditional allies, there is no regard for traditional partnerships, there is no regard for any great historical alliance,” he says. “Decision-making comes down to country-specific relationships in a way we’ve never seen before and that means you can be defined as a close ally but then end up on the wrong end of a trade announcement or something else and it is the relationships that hold it together.”

    Mr Hockey has got to know Mr Trump better than most ambassadors in Washington, having played golf with him and having also developed a close relationship with the President’s acting chief of staff, Mr Mulvaney.

    Last year, Mr Trump granted Scott Morrison the first state dinner for an Australian leader since John Howard’s in 2006.

    So after four years, what are Mr Hockey’s observations about this mercurial and unconventional President?

    “He is an engaging and curious person,” he says. “You never think of it when you see him on television or social media but he actually asks a lot of questions. He is curious and he is incredibly street smart. He is canny and he is intelligent.

    “I think he likes provoking people and he is ‘America first’, which rubs a lot of countries up the wrong way. But we would expect our Prime Minister to be ‘Australia first’ so you can’t deny America’s right after all these years to put their country first,” he says.

    It’s considered the best job in the public service an ambassadorship to the United States. But for @JoeHockey, @realDonaldTrump’s Presidency brought a whole new set of challenges. https://t.co/OF81oZFF1j #7NEWS pic.twitter.com/vnHdnOftmZ
    — 7NEWS Sydney (@7NewsSydney) January 12, 2020

    Mr Hockey’s term finishes at the end of next week and he will be replaced by former senator Arthur Sinodinos. But Mr Hockey will remain in Washington for much of this year, doing part-time lecturing on public policy at the American University while he works out his next move, which is likely to be a corporate role in the US.

    Mr Hockey has said that despite serving 20 years in federal parliament, including four jobs as a minister and now a four-year term as ambassador in Washington, he wants to keep working.

  147. Boambee John

    It may not be Tourette’s – but you need to check it out.

    It seems that as well as being an atmospheric physicist and a research chemist, the seagull is also a psychiatrist!

    No wonder its geography is a bit wonky!

  148. Porter

    Please don’t give them ideas Mother Lode.

    I was just reading the Bio of our blonde science minister. Why the hell do we have a science minister? In any case she was a mining engineer who got into industrial relations and HR, seems to have enriched herself on the back of workers. About 9 investment properties. I smell more Green filth and incompetence.

  149. Mother Lode

    Except for those three brave ones (newsreaders) in Iraq. Integrity in spades.

    They had been reading this stuff for years – I will guess from their departing comments that they had an pretty shrewd idea they were reading nonsense.

    I take it not so much as a sudden conscience-seizure as a admission that they see the writing is on the wall.

  150. calli

    Mr Hockey’s term finishes at the end of next week and he will be replaced by former senator Arthur Sinodinos.

    Grate.

    No doubt Trump already has this creature’s measure. The only appointment that could possibly be worse and more embarrassing for Australia is BitchSlap. Small mercies.

  151. Top Ender

    The submarine contract is the biggest mess ever created by Defence.

    It should be stopped right now, and we should ask the USA to lease us 12 nuclear submarines one by one over 12 years.

    We would save more than 50% of what we’re spending now and get a better submarine into the bargain.

    Morrison needs to get a grip and do something.

  152. calli

    They could be “disappeared” regardless, Lode. You’d have to get your timing right.

  153. Now that all the fire services in Vik are lumped together.
    Rumour has it that there is and has been some tensions* between CFA volunteers and MFB employees.
    Especially when a MFB person who has never seen a bushfire is operationally in charge of experienced volunteer CFA crews.

    * threats to dental work

  154. Porter

    Sinodinos is going to be a bloody useless U.S. ambassador. I bet he’s going to get caught up with some really dirty self enrichment schemes too. He has form. When I see people like Sinodinos I despise men like Howard even more. The Libs were always pointing fingers at Labor for their nepotism but no one can beat the Liberals in that department.

  155. struth

    Global warming is causing global cooling yet the sea is hotter and the Poles are growing with Ice, the polar Bears are increasing in Number, the pacific Islands are increasing in size and there has not been one climate refugee to be seen.
    Regular Australian summer bushfires fuelled by the green left’s adherence to UN policy and started by Arsonists still aren’t anywhere near as bad as they have been in the past, are proof the climate Emergency is upon us.
    Western cows should not be killed for eating because they fart, while Indian cattle live on as Gods , farting and shitting their way to old age in the streets of India.
    An emergency that requires all western industry and power usage to cease, and be taken over by communist, socialist and corrupt states who, due to their Marxist socialist control, can never hurt the environment, and need never to adhere to any restrictions.

    Makes perfect sense.

  156. 8th Dan

    This film also the start of Joe Pesci.

    Nope. Pesci’s real start was earlier. Either Raging Bull in 1980 as Joey LaMotta, or Once Upon a Time in America in 1984 as Frankie Minaldi . Probably the latter.

  157. OldOzzie

    Bushfire recovery a way out for the Reserve Bank on rates

    Robert Gottliebsen

    There is increasing evidence that Reserve Bank Governor Philip Lowe and his people are significant contributors to the increase in pessimism by so many Australians.

    While it is true Lowe and his Reserve Bank can’t be blamed for the bushfires, their interest rate policy has not stimulated the economy.

    Rather it appears to have had the reverse effect—-it increases the pessimism of Australians, making it the most obvious depressor of the Australian economy.

    Philip Lowe does not agree with that conclusion and the market expects the Reserve Bank to cut rates again in February.

    But as the evidence mounts of the damage lower interest rates are creating it is possible that the Reserve Bank now has a way out.

    The Reserve Bank has been calling on the federal government to lift spending but the government wanted to achieve a surplus.

    Now bushfire relief and recovery has given the government a justifiable reason to spend that surplus and more. The big bushfire spending proposals of the federal government may now give the Reserve Bank an excuse to stop rate cutting without admitting error.

    You do not need to look far to see that interest rate cuts are not working.

    Just before Christmas Morgan Research announced a big fall in consumer confidence, which reversed a tentative recovery. There has since been a recovery but retailers are not noticing it.

    Our current consumer confidence levels are around the levels reached in major economic crises. Youth unemployment, particularly among males, is at disturbing levels. We are seeing an increase in economic pessimism, as measured by forecaster and analyst Foreseechange.

    Foreseechange combines Australians’ view on the economy and on unemployment into an index of pessimism, with figures dating back to 2008.

    Australians’ rating of the likelihood of a severe economic downturn is now at its highest level since November 2008 in the middle of the global financial crisis.

    The number of people predicting a rise in unemployment is increasing and is up sharply on two years ago. Forseechange says that past trends show that if Australians expect employment to rise it’s a good predictor that the actual rate will increase.

    Leaving out the global financial crisis, Forseechange says the force that most coincides with an increase in pessimism is lower interest rates.

    It is not hard to understand why this is the case. The Australian central bank has cut already low rates three times in six months, which is a clear sign in the eyes of a great many people of economic desperation.

    Accordingly, those with large mortgages are not spending the extra cash created by lower repayments, but are accelerating their payments.

    Those approaching retirement are enjoying the share market but returns in other areas are down so they are stepping up their savings. Many young people who don’t have a house are adopting the same policy.

    And as house prices rise on the back of higher rates, those buying a dwelling are forced to take on huge mortgages which makes them nervous and reduces their disposable income. They require two incomes and childcare costs cripple them.

    While those who own houses are making paper profits they are not real profits until they die and Australians are living longer, so the benefits of the higher house prices to the next generation are being delayed.

    These trends are simply not understood by classical economists who in the ultra-low interest rate environment have become remote from what is happening in the real economy.

    The best way to stimulate consumers is to get money into the hands of people who will spend it.

    Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan achieved that in the global financial crisis.

    But it isn’t going to be easy in 2020 Australia, given the large amounts of money required for immediate bushfire relief.

    What looks like being triggered is a massive investment in replacing assets —much of that investment via insurance company funds —- and substantial Commonwealth investment in infrastructure. If it is done properly the budget will go into deficit and it will stimulate the economy.

    Add that to the amounts set to be spent in reconfiguring our power supply network and the increase looming in capital city home building rates, plus existing infrastructure.

    Accordingly we have on the slipway a major stimulation of the economy, albeit much of it replacing existing assets. Don’t be surprised if building costs rise along with the increase in food prices that will come with the bushfire damage.

    I am reluctant to forecast a rise in the inflation rate because there are so many complex forces but there will certainly be pressure in that direction.

    Of course, normally what happens after bushfires is the bureaucrats have a ball and nothing ever gets done.

    If pessimism is to be reversed we will need a federal government that looks like it knows what it is doing on climate, infrastructure and bushfire relief.

    It will also need to understand that the small business community, which is our largest employer, is being savaged by the bad practices of big companies. But I will return to that subject at a later stage.

    I fear the Reserve Bank will stick to its current order of service and what the asset price driven market wants—lower rates. It may not yet be ready to grasp what is happening in the real word.

  158. struth

    Good rim is exactly why he changed the e to an I.

    Rim Jobs.

    The liberal party fund and defend this shit being presented to Children.
    C………nts.
    Immoral C…nts who should be beaten with bats.

    Sorry Lizzie, it’s how I feel.

  159. OldOzzie

    Unlock clean power technology

    The Australian Editorial

    The Morrison government’s plan to consider more than 100 new technologies with a view to doubling renewable energy in the electricity grid within a decade and modernising high-­polluting industries should be an efficient path towards cutting Australia’s carbon emissions. A year ago, we urged the government to dislodge itself from the renewables/climate action versus coal contest and recast the debate on better terms. The draft technology investment road map to be released later this year should help achieve better terms.

    The road map, reported on Tuesday’s front page, will involve input from industry, the finance sector and researchers. It will highlight opportunities for short, medium and long-term investment in emerging developments in hydrogen, carbon capture and storage, lithium production, biofuels and waste-to-energy. Advances in agriculture, such as feed supplements to reduce methane emissions and ways to track carbon sequestration in soils, also would be included.

    In Business on Tuesday, Robert Gottliebsen highlighted the potential of Tasmania’s “battery of the nation” project to double the state’s renewable energy capacity by developing pumped hydro energy storage, building wind farms and upgrading existing generation assets. An interconnector, to be built by 2027, would send excess electricity to Melbourne during peak demand times.

    If nations such as Australia are to further reduce emissions significantly without inflicting economic hardship and destroying jobs, exploiting our comparative advantages through technical and scientific ingenuity will be crucial. The Johnson government in Britain recognised the same principle in September when it allocated £1bn ($1.8bn) for scientists to develop technology to help tackle climate change in developing countries. Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister Angus Taylor is right when he says the best way to deliver Australia’s international commitments to cut emissions is through technologies that also support growth.

  160. Mother Lode

    His answer was so boring, convoluted and cover-upish, btw is that a word?

    If it wasn’t it will be because it was not needed until now.

  161. OldOzzie

    Greens’ shaky camera conspiracy near Carmichael coal mine

    Alice Workman
    Strewth Editor

    Suspicious Minds, Tony Abbott’s go-to karaoke tune, could easily serve as the soundtrack for the latest saga involving the Greens and anti-Adani activists in central Queensland. Protesters recently became suspicious of cameras installed on roads leading towards the controversial Carmichael coalmine, convinced they were being used to secretly monitor their activities. Queensland Greens MP Michael Berkman fired off a question on notice to state Transport Minister Mark Bailey: “Will the minister advise … do the monitoring facilities use thermal sensors, infra-red sensors, face recognition or vehicle number plate recognition? Who has access to the monitoring feeds and information?” Berkman demanded to know who owned the devices and whether the Palaszczuk government had given permission for them to be installed. Bailey pleaded ignorance. Eventually the Isaac Regional Council confessed to putting up the traffic cameras and admitted the confusion could have arisen because no signs were erected. Despite the James Bond gadget claims from the Greens, a spokesperson for the council insists “there is no face recognition, no infra-red capability”. The cameras’ only purpose is to make sure trucks and other equipment don’t damage the “assets of the council” — aka the road. “They don’t monitor anything else but vehicle movements,” the spokesperson says. “The council just wanted to know the pressure being put on local roads from the activity at the mine site.” Asked who would have access to the footage, the council says normal rules of privacy will apply. But that’s not good enough for Berkman. The Greens MP’s flack says he will continue to pursue the curious case of the unmarked road cameras: “We are happy to take the council at their word but would still like to know who would have access to the vision from the cameras.”

    Greta’s new environment

    A giant eucalyptus tree in Tasmania has been named after teen sailing fan Greta Thunberg. It’s one of five mountain ash trees — also known as swamp or stringy gums, which measure up to 5.8m in diameter — in the Huon Valley dubbed by state conservation group Forestry Watch. The others: David Attenborough, Tim Flannery, Naomi Klein and Indian environmentalist Sunita Narain.

    On the edge of seats

    Tennis-loving Treasurer Josh Frydenberg is preparing to contest his version of the Kooyong Classic, with preselections opening on Wednesday (and closing promptly at 5pm on January 29) for all Liberal-held lower-house federal seats in Victoria. Twelve MPs are being forced to fight for their right to (represent the Liberal) party including ministers Greg Hunt, Alan Tudge and Michael Sukkar; House of Representatives Speaker Tony Smith; safe-seat holder Kevin Andrews (who hasn’t faced a challenge in 20 years); and the often embattled Gladys Liu. But they won’t submit their applications without a fight. A second petition (the first failed) calling for a special meeting of the state council to be held within two weeks — so a vote to delay the nomination process to “no earlier than September 1, 2020” can be put — was emailed to state party officials on Friday. It has been referred to the constitutional committee for advice. Backed by Frydenberg and Scott Morrison, its arguments include the need for proper vetting, possible seat redistributions and finding “quality candidates”. One Liberal says MPs who aren’t re-endorsed will become lame ducks for the next two years of parliament, which could put the government’s majority at risk. Another claims it will harm their chances to win the next election as it gives Labor more time to dig up candidate dirt. But a supporter of the fast-tracked timeline tells Strewth it’s long overdue, as some Liberal MPs are too used to not having to face the people and “just want jobs for life”.

    Big Apple Isle moment

    Outgoing Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman will go down in history as the first premier to be ejected from Tasmanian parliament. As Strewth wrote after the moment for the ages in question time in August 2016: “The Speaker of the Tasmanian parliament Elise Archer, against expectations, booted out fellow Liberal, Premier Will Hodgman, for poor behaviour. We are confident this has everything to do with the independence of the office and nothing whatsoever to do with Hodgman overlooking Archer in a recent reshuffle.” Hodgman, who won the Apple Isle’s top job in March 2014, was the longest serving of the current mob of state and territory leaders. That honour now passes to Victorian Premier Dan Andrews.

  162. Porter

    They were warned about that exact scenario Rambler but you will notice that Andrews has already called a bushfire inquiry – meaning he already knows what answer he wants from it – while Slo mo is still scratching his balls. Once again people have died and once again they will have died needlessly.

  163. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The submarine contract is the biggest mess ever created by Defence.

    Up against some pretty stiff competition, though.

  164. Porter

    They were warned about that exact scenario Rambler but you will notice that Andrews has already called a bushfire inquiry – meaning he already knows what answer he wants from it – while Slo mo is still scratching his ba lls. Once again people have died and once again they will have died needlessly.

  165. Once again people have died and once again they will have died needlessly.

    Is there any chance of an insurer taking a state and/or local government to court in an attempt to recover their payouts because of government wilful negligence?

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘an unfixable disaster’

    Yes it is. It was 15 – 20 years back when I lived in Romsey.

    Used to drive on occasion down Woodend Road through Hesket (past one of Hinch’s joints – grapes on it, natch) and the country in there was terrifying. Waist high throughout, a miracle it hasn’t gone up since.

    A SiL’s in Macedon itself. Pretty little house in the town. Overshadowed, and I mean overshadowed by monstrous oil-filled tinder dry bark-dropping gums.

    As the man said. When, not if.

  167. OldOzzie

    Jeff Kennett joins panel for indigenous voice to government

    Paige Taylor
    WA Bureau Chief

    Former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett, Fraser government ­Aboriginal affairs minister­ Fred Chaney and Aboriginal media executive Donna Odegaard are among 16 Australians appointed to help establish the details of the indigenous voice to government.

    Dr Odegaard, chief executive of Aboriginal Broadcasting Aust­ralia, will co-chair the national co-design group with a senior bureau­crat from the National Indigeno­us Australians Agency. The group’s job is to develop a model for a national voice and to make sure any proposals comple­ment rather than duplicate organisations that work well.

    A yet-to-be-appointed co-­design group will examine how the indigenous voice can improve local and regional decision-­making.

    The voice was central to the 2017 Uluru Statement from the Heart — the culmination of dialogues­ with 1200 indigenous people around Australia. The landmark document called for a constitutionally enshrined voice to parliament. The Morrison governme­nt is working towards a voice to the whole of government to be established in legislation but not in the Constitution.

    Indigenous Australians Minister Ken Wyatt is due to announce members of the new national group on Wednesday. They includ­e Rodney Dillon, a Palawa elder from Tasmania and indigenous rights adviser for Amnesty International, and lawyer Fiona McLeod SC, who represented the commonwealth in the Victorian Bushfires Royal Commission, Queensland Floods Commission and the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sex Abuse.

    Overall, the co-design process will be guided by Mr Wyatt’s senior­ advisory group, co-chaired by indigenous leaders Marcia Langton and Tom Calma.

    When proposed models for the voice are ready, they are due to be “refined” in what Mr Wyatt has described as consultations with “indigenous leaders, communit­ies and stakeholders across the country”.

    The minister has asked the nation­al group to “ensure any proposed models will work within existing structures”.

    “Indigenous Australians want their voices heard at all levels of government and want to help shape the policies and programs that affect their lives,” he said.

    Other members of the national group are Jamie Lowe, a Djab­wurrung man and National ­Native Title Council chief executive, indigenous health expert Gracelyn Smallwood, indigenous children’s advocate Richard Weston, indigenous children’s author Cheryl Kickett-Tucker, Australian Rugby League Indig­en­ous Council chairwoman Katrina­ Fanning, First People’s Disability Network Australia chairman Damian Griffis, co-chair of the First People’s Assembly­ of Victoria Marcus Stewart, indigenous businesswoman Kristal Kinsela-Christie, Indigenous Land and Sea Corporation deputy chair Joseph Elu, indigenou­s health executive Zell Dodd, and Steven Wanta Patrick Jampijinpa, who has worked on indigenous youth suicide prevention projects.

    Dr Odegaard described the Morrison government’s plan as an unprecedented opportunity for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people “to express who we are, what we want, what we need and the direction we choose for the future for the benefit of all our people and the nation”.

    While Mr Wyatt has said the government would not seek to include­ the voice in the Constit­ution, it plans a referendum on the separate question of whether indig­enous people should be recog­nised in the Constitution.

  168. Herodotus

    Burn, Baby, Burn!
    I’ve no link to any video but it’s rumoured that Project Veritas is exposing some rather poor attitudes to burning (people and places) among the Sanders campaign operatives. Twitter accounts are said to be dropping/deleted like flies at the moment.

  169. stackja

    OldOzzie
    #3292862, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:01 am

    Meanwhile in remote communities?

  170. Herodotus

    “Indigenous Australians want their voices heard at all levels of government and want to help shape the policies and programs that affect their lives,” he said.

    It’s not the program and policies. The things that affect their lives the most are cultural. They appear unable to grasp that or to do anything to improve it. And when Jacinta Price suggests they try and do that they cut up rough.

  171. Helen

    Re-education camps for Trump (MAGA) supporters.

    Gulags weren’t that bad

  172. 1735099

    plus a lot of electoral fraud

    Trump established a commission to investigate potential large-scale electoral fraud, despite the absence of credible evidence that would typically justify such an action.
    The commission was disbanded without having found any such evidence.
    Have you found something?
    Post any evidence of electoral fraud if you have it, as a public service.

  173. Old School Conservative

    Or now they can afford it.

    Or celebrating continual winning.

  174. P

    Swedes vote for climate policy The biggest waste of taxpayers’ money in 2019

    The Swedish public has voted that spending on climate change was the biggest waste of taxpayers’ money in 2019, according to a survey by the Swedish Taxpayers Association.

    The Taxpayers Association released the results of its annual unnecessary spending survey earlier this week, stating that climate policy had been the biggest waste of money, largely due to the fact that despite spending , emissions in Sweden had actually increased slightly.

  175. OldOzzie

    stackja
    #3292865, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:03 am
    OldOzzie
    #3292862, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:01 am

    Meanwhile in remote communities?

    Boozed Locals continue to beat the Crap out of each other – burn their own houses down and expect your the Stupid Australian Taxpayer to pay to rebuild it so they can burn down again

    Chair of the Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advisory Council, Warren Mundine, told Q&A that $30 billion is spent every year on 500,000 Indigenous people in Australia.

    Is that right?

    Checking the source

    When asked for sources to support his statement, Warren Mundine told The Conversation that:

    The figure covers Commonwealth, state and territory expenditure and includes direct Indigenous funding and indirect funding (eg welfare payments). The figures come from a direct presentation by the Productivity Commission to the Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advisory Council meeting, which used their data from their reports.

    Let’s check Mundine’s statement against original sources.

    The Productivity Commission reports

    The Productivity Commission creates two major reports of relevance to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians. The first is the Overcoming Indigenous Disadvantage report, which focuses on socioeconomic and well-being outcomes.

    The second report, titled the Indigenous Expenditure Report, attempts to identify the level of expenditure that relates to the Indigenous population. A key point in this 2014 report supports Mundine’s claim:

    Total direct expenditure on services for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians in 2012-13 was estimated to be $30.3 billion, accounting for 6.1% of total direct general government expenditure.

    The same report also found that:

    Estimated expenditure per person in 2012-13 was $43,449 for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians, compared with $20,900 for other Australians (a ratio of 2.08 to 1 — an increase from a ratio of 1.93 to 1 in 2008-09).

  176. struth

    Just enough time according to Sniffy, to let the Jooo hatred , Moooosie supporting go into the memory hole, and in he comes again.

  177. Leigh Lowe

    Harry and Meghan trademarked ‘Sussex Royal’ brand in the UK in June last year
    But lawyer in the US has applied for the trademark after finding it was available
    Jared Fogelson says he wanted to ‘teach the couple a lesson about planning’

    Jared will be suicided before the year is out.

  178. OldOzzie

    EDITORIALS
    U.S. Has 3.5 Million More Registered Voters Than Live Adults — A Red Flag For Electoral Fraud

    Elections: American democracy has a problem — a voting problem. According to a new study of U.S. Census data, America has more registered voters than actual live voters. It’s a troubling fact that puts our nation’s future in peril.

    The data come from Judicial Watch’s Election Integrity Project. The group looked at data from 2011 to 2015 produced by the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, along with data from the federal Election Assistance Commission.

    As reported by the National Review’s Deroy Murdock, who did some numbers-crunching of his own, “some 3.5 million more people are registered to vote in the U.S. than are alive among America’s adult citizens. Such staggering inaccuracy is an engraved invitation to voter fraud.”

    Murdock counted Judicial Watch’s state-by-state tally and found that 462 U.S. counties had a registration rate exceeding 100% of all eligible voters. That’s 3.552 million people, who Murdock calls “ghost voters.” And how many people is that? There are 21 states that don’t have that many people.

    Nor are these tiny, rural counties or places that don’t have the wherewithal to police their voter rolls.

    California, for instance, has 11 counties with more registered voters than actual voters. Perhaps not surprisingly — it is deep-Blue State California, after all — 10 of those counties voted heavily for Hillary Clinton.

    Los Angeles County, whose more than 10 million people make it the nation’s most populous county, had 12% more registered voters than live ones, some 707,475 votes. That’s a huge number of possible votes in an election.

    But, Murdock notes, “California’s San Diego County earns the enchilada grande. Its 138% registration translates into 810,966 ghost voters.”

    State by state, this is an enormous problem that needs to be dealt with seriously. Having so many bogus voters out there is a temptation to voter fraud. In California, where Hillary Clinton racked up a massive majority over Trump, it would have made little difference.

    But in other states, and in smaller elections, voter fraud could easily turn elections. A hundred votes here, a hundred votes there, and things could be very different. As a Wikipedia list of close elections shows, since just 2000 there have been literally dozens of elections at the state, local and federal level decided by 100 votes or fewer.

    And, in at least two nationally important elections in recent memory, the outcome was decided by a paper-thin margin: In 2000, President Bush beat environmental activist and former Vice President Al Gore by just 538 votes.

    Sen. Al Franken, the Minnesota Democrat, won his seat by beating incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman in 2008. Coleman was initially declared the winner the day after the election, with a 726-vote lead over Franken. But after a controversial series of recounts and ballot disqualifications, Franken emerged weeks later with a 225-seat victory.

    Franken’s win was enormous, since it gave Democrats filibuster-proof control of the Senate. So, yes, small vote totals matter.

    We’re not saying here that Franken cheated, nor, for that matter, that Bush did. But small numbers can have an enormous impact on our nation’s governance. The 3.5 million possible fraudulent ballots that exist are a problem that deserves serious immediate attention. Nothing really hinges on it, of course, except the integrity and honesty of our democratic elections.

  179. Porter

    Aboriginals already have a voice in Parliament including Ken Wyatt himself. There is absolutely no justification to privilege one race over another unless you are a racist and 12 institutionalized racism. These Hollow gestures will not improve the life of one single aboriginal in Australia.

  180. calli

    Herodotus
    #3292866, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:04 am

    Now that’s interesting, Hero. I do hope smart people are taking copious screen shots.

  181. candy

    PM Morrison needs to do the plebiscite thing again, with climate change. We can all move on then, as they say.
    I think it best to give citizens the right to choose whether they want action on climate change such as decommissioning the coal mines and a carbon tax, and subsidising further renewables.

    Best to give people knowledge and allow them to weigh things up. You know, if say 52% of voters want to go the climate change action way we must accept. Just like SSM, really.
    I know I am being repetitive about this, but I think it the way to proceed.

  182. calli

    Harry and Meghan trademarked ‘Sussex Royal’ brand in the UK in June last year
    But lawyer in the US has applied for the trademark after finding it was available
    Jared Fogelson says he wanted to ‘teach the couple a lesson about planning’

    Any Drag Queen who doesn’t try to adopt the name Samesex Royal just isn’t trying.

  183. candy

    Gulags weren’t that bad

    Reading that apparently Bernie Sanders had his honeymoon in USSR during the Cold War time.

    A true socialist/communist. Ms Cortez much the same, I think. If that’s what Americans want, fair enough.

  184. OldOzzie

    Judicial Watch: Federal Court Orders Snap Hearing on Awan Brothers, Congressional Democrat IT Scandal After DOJ Files Document Under Seal

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that a federal court yesterday ordered a snap hearing after the Justice Department submitted information under seal on Friday following the court’s demand for an explanation of why no records have been produced in the ongoing legal battle for documents about the Congressional Democrat IT (information technology) scandal involving the Awan brothers. The hearing is set for tomorrow, January 15, at 10 am.

    In November 2018, Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the FBI over two FOIA requests for records related to the Awan brothers (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Justice (No. 1:18-cv-02563)).

    In August 2019, the Justice Department told the court that it would begin producing records by November 5, 2019. After producing no records, on November 13, 2019, the agency told Judicial Watch that it was having “technical difficulties,” and in a recent email claimed that “difficulties with the production remain.”

    In a joint status report filed on December 5, 2019, Judicial Watch reported to the court that the DOJ claimed in a phone call that it was now unable to produce any records to either of the FOIA requests “because the agency was waiting for some unspecified action by Judge [Tanya S.] Chutkan in some other matter so as to avoid having to produce records in this case.” In that same report the DOJ told the court that Judge Chutkan is “presiding over a related sealed criminal matter” that prohibits the government from releasing the requested FOIA information.

    In a hearing last month, U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta expressed frustration and ordered the Justice Department to explain its failure to produce records by January 10 and to provide Judicial Watch some details about the delay. Instead, the Justice Department made its filing under seal and has yet to provide Judicial Watch with any details about its failure to produce records as promised to the court.

    “The cover-up of the Awan Brothers Democratic IT scandal shows the FBI and DOJ’s penchant for dishonesty isn’t just limited to FISA abuse,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The DOJ’s handling of the Awan Brothers case has long been an issue of concern and now we are expected believe some secret investigation prevents the public from knowing the full truth about this scandal. We are skeptical.”

    Imran Awan and his family were banned from the House computer network in February 2017 after the House’s top law enforcement officer wrote that Imran was “an ongoing and serious risk to the House of Representatives, possibly threatening the integrity of our information systems,” and that a server containing evidence had gone “missing.” The inspector general said server logs showed “unauthorized access” and procurement records were falsified.

    Imran Awan was Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s (D-FL) top information technology aide. Most lawmakers fired Awan in February, but Wasserman Schultz kept him on until he was arrested in July 2017, trying to board a flight for Pakistan.

    In July 2018, Imran Awan was given a plea deal, and pled guilty to federal bank fraud but prosecutors found no evidence that Awan “violated federal law with respect to the House computer systems.”

    The Awan brothers reportedly “were not given background checks before being given access to highly sensitive government information and no explanations have been given as to why.” Additionally, “If they would have run this background check it would have found out not only multiple criminal convictions, but $1 million bankruptcy, a dozen lawsuits … it would have found a whole host of major red flags and the Democrats didn’t do any of those checks.”

    The status hearing is before Judge Amit P. Mehta:

  185. Herodotus

    Candy, after seeing the tidal wave of virtue signallers in media and Celeb-land all accentuating the positive re SSM I’d have little faith in a correct outcome for climate change.

  186. 1735099

    Global warming is causing global cooling

    Welcome to the alternative universe, where black is white, down is up, and piebald unicorns wander at night.

    yet the sea is hotter

    Strangely, you got that right.

    and the Poles are growing with Ice

    Not really.

    the polar Bears are increasing in Number

    A population drop is a “decrease”, not an “increase”.

  187. calli

    Jurek was stating that “free speech has consequences.”

    Don’t be surprised if he meets some consequences really soon.

  188. Porter

    It’s parents who permitted their children to be exposed to deviants. It’s parents who are sexualising their children.

  189. OldOzzie

    Candy

    Kyle Jurek – What a Frightening Bastard

    Kyle Jurek – Sanders Field Organizer: MAGA People Need to Be Reeducated in Gulags

    An “anti-fascist” field organizer for the Bernie Sanders Campaign in Iowa was caught on tape saying that when Sanders becomes president of the United States “MAGA people” will have to be “reeducated” to learn “how to not be a f**king nazi” and that, in fact, is what the candidate’s proposal of free education for all is all about.

    Kyle Jurek shared his “hard C” Communist beliefs to an undercover journalist from Project Veritas, saying that the United States could learn a lot to from the Gulag, a forced labor-camp system in the Soviet Union under Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin.

    “After the fall of the Nazi party, there was a shit-ton of the populous that was f*cking Nazi-fied,” Jurek explains in the video. “Germany had to spend billions of dollars reeducating their f*cking people. We’re probably going to have to do the same f*cking thing here,” he added. “That’s kinda like what Bernie’s whole f*cking like ‘hey free education for everybody because we’re going to have to teach you to not be a f*cking Nazi.”

    Jurek assured the Veritas journalist that the Gulags were not actually as bad as people make them out to be.

    “Actually, the Gulags were a lot better than the like the CIA has told us,” Jurek said. “Like people were actually paid a living wage in the Gulags, they had conjugal visits in the Gulags. Gulags were actually meant for reeducation,” he explained.

    “The greatest way to break a f*cking billionaire of their privilege and their idea that they’re superior? Go and break rocks for 12 hours a day. You’re now a working class person and you’re going to f*cking learn what that means,” Jurek added.

    Making a logical fallacy frequently promoted by antifa members, Jurek went on to say that the folks who will be hurt [conservatives, Trump supporters] will deserve it because they believe in “eliminating people” based on their race, gender, or religion.

    “The only thing that fascists understand is violence. So the only way you can confront them is with violence,” he said, conflating all people on the right with Nazis.

    The organizer also stressed that cities across the country will be severely punished if his candidate does not get the nomination.

    “If Bernie doesn’t get the nomination, or if it goes to a second round at the DNC Convention, f*cking Milwaukee will burn,” he said, adding that it would only start with Milwaukee, where the convention is being held. “When the police push back on that, other cities will f*cking [makes explosion sound].”

    “We’re going to make 1978 [he means 1968] look like a f*cking girl scout f*cking cookout,” Jurek said.

    “You should expect a f*cking violent reaction,” he said. “The cops are gonna be the ones that are getting f**king beaten in Milwaukee.”

    James O’Keefe, the founder and president of Project Veritas, produced FEC records showing that Jurek, who has been with the campaign for six months, has been paid nearly $11,000 by the Sanders campaign in Iowa.

  190. candy

    ‘Sussex Royal’

    Being the glamorous daughter-in-law of the future King of England with a loving husband and little baby, and admired by Britons, not enough for Miss Meghan. She wants more.

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Especially when a MFB person who has never seen a bushfire is operationally in charge of experienced volunteer CFA crews.

    Yes.
    I love how they like to distinguish MFB by calling them “professional firefighters”.
    Strictly true, in that they get paid, but it is meant to imply “better than the rag-tag CFA”.
    Most of them have Cert IVs in Cat Rescue and False Alarms and whinge like all fuck about “the danger and the smoke” if, heaven forbid, they get called to a real fire.

  192. Who would of guessed that change of 0.005% in a trace atmospheric gas would cause so much havoc?

    Can we blame Trump?

  193. Porter

    Re: insurance companies suing governments re bushfire, my answer is no because ultimately the tax payer gets to pay and then gets to pay twice over and maybe even three times if you’ve already lost your home.
    The ideal would be to personally sue MPs, counsellors and especially activists. Sue them individually and see them serve time or be bankrupted. Frankly ID like to see someone’s sue those East Gippsland activists who stopped a burn off about a month before the fires started and those fires in the Alpine area have been going for months now.

  194. Herodotus

    Thanks Calli. Rivetting stuff. But Gurgle lists Project Veritas as doing dodgy editing.

  195. 1735099

    the pacific Islands are increasing in size

    Only Tuvalu.
    Many others have disappeared.
    Generally, the larger islands have proved the most stable and likely to grow as seas rise (as factors such as wave patterns and sediment kick in) whilst the smaller atolls will disappear.

  196. OldOzzie

    Unequal Fates: A Real Obama Era Whistleblower vs. the Trump ‘Whistleblower’

    As the Trump impeachment drama continues to unfold on Capitol Hill, the so-called whistleblower in that case enjoys hero-martyr status on the Left and in the news media. Lt. General Michael Flynn has enjoyed no such treatment.

    But the whistleblower reserved his harshest criticism for the government’s intelligence agencies, including the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the agency he left the year before.

    “What I learned was that the CIA was not sharing all of their information . . . the CIA has operational cables that don’t make it into intelligence reporting, which is incredibly irresponsible,” he told the interviewer. “I wanted to know about that disconnect.”

    When he confronted an unidentified CIA official, the whistleblower was brushed off. “This is where the intelligence leadership is irresponsible for not sharing intelligence in and among themselves. There is a huge, huge political [bias] in this. The reason is that there is a political bias and the reason is there is a lack of courage in senior government officials to tell the truth.”

    This whistleblower, however, is not some anonymous partisan operative now cheered by the Left and the media as a patriot. He is not the unnamed driving force to take down the president of the United States.

    The person I just described is Lt. General Michael Flynn, Trump’s short-lived national security advisor who faces jail time for his plea agreement with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

    Flynn’s stunning interview is among the hundreds of documents contained in the Washington Post’s recent exposé on the war in Afghanistan. The six-part series, authored by Craig Whitlock, is an infuriating account of how our top military, national security, and political leaders lied to us about the disastrous conflict that has taken the lives of more than 2,300 U.S. troops, wounded more than 20,000, and cost $1 trillion and counting. Last year was the deadliest since 2014; 23 American service members were killed in 2019. Two soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb earlier this month.

    Nearly three-quarters of the total U.S. casualties in Afghanistan occurred on Barack Obama’s watch.

    One can only wonder what the public case against Flynn would have looked like had the Post published his harsh assessment of the same people—Clapper, Obama, and CIA Director John Brennan—attempting to sabotage the decorated Army veteran. (In their first meeting, Obama warned Trump not to hire Flynn. Now we know why.)

    As the Trump impeachment drama continues to slowly unfold on Capitol Hill, the “whistleblower” in that case enjoys hero-martyr status on the Left and in the news media. No reporter is trying to track him down and force him to answer questions about his political ties; on the contrary, anyone who mentions the name of the suspected “whistleblower” is condemned and falsely accused of breaking the law.

    Flynn has enjoyed no such treatment. He awaits sentencing from a federal judge, more than two years after his plea agreement and despite proven corruption in the FBI’s case against the Trump campaign.

    Further, considering the revelations in Whitlock’s series (American Greatness will continue to cover it, by the way), it turns out Flynn was right. His first-hand account, unlike the hearsay accusations made by the Ukrainegate “whistleblower,” shows legitimate threats to national security, political decisions by U.S. leaders that involve another country, and the self-serving interests of a presidential administration at the expense of the public good.

    “From ambassadors down to the low level, [they all say] we are doing a great job,” Flynn said. “Really? So if we are doing such a great job, why do I feel like we are losing?”

    Those are the informed revelations of a true, and brave, whistleblower.

  197. Frankly ID like to see someone’s sue those East Gippsland activists who stopped a burn off about a month before the fires started

    yes!

    and those fires in the Alpine area have been going for months now.

    A month is long enough to safely cut a 1km wide fire break in the path of the fire.
    Where are the D11s and heavy lift choppers?

  198. Check the number of MFB work avoiders who are ex-Navy. The public sector union and Navy cultures are a perfect fit.

  199. candy

    It’s parents who permitted their children to be exposed to deviants. It’s parents who are sexualising their children.

    I don’t get the fascination with drag queens. I feel repulsed, but I know they are just people with emotions and aspirations, parents who love them, just like anyone else. But I feel almost nauseous looking at their get-up, almost like they have a bad smell. It’s in my head, but it’s my reaction to them.

  200. Shy Ted

    “Soldiers to the left, projectionists to the right”.
    PS, visible and concealed gravatars don’t match. Go and stand in the corner, boy!

  201. John64

    Who would of guessed that change of 0.005% in a trace atmospheric gas would cause so much havoc?

    Despite mankind’s best efforts belching out emissions since the start of the industrial revolution; atmospheric CO2 has increased from 7/20,000ths to 8/20,000ths of the earth’s atmosphere.

    And we’re supposed to accept unquestioningly that an increase of 1/20,000th of an inert trace gas is wreaking havoc on the planet’s climate?

    Gimme a break.

  202. calli

    First they say surface temperatures are rising.

    Then it’s

    Global ocean temperatures are rising, yet the impacts of such changes on harmful algal blooms (HABs) are not fully understood

    Sloppy.

    However, I’m prepared to accept the algal bloom increase if the surface temp is increasing. (If I read that correctly yesterday, it was estimated at 0.1 degrees. I’ve seen algae myself, although can make no comment over its increase or otherwise. They do say it isn’t widespread over the North Pacific, but is occurring in Alaska. There is always a possibility that it’s seasonal (like it is here) or responding to current temperatures from the equator. It might even be relocating, like so much other crappy and unwelcome species, due to shipping movements.

  203. Mark A

    re disappearing islands
    Many others have disappeared.

    Name them.

    And don’t be snarky and say Google it yourself, I don’t know of any and I didn’t claim it, you did.
    Put up or..

  204. calli

    Project Veritas as doing dodgy editing.

    May be. But the guy needed to take a breath mid-rant.

    I did like the ELO background music. You couldn’t make that up. 😀

  205. RobK

    Review of the Lands Acquisition Act 1989

    THE HON KEN WYATT AM MP
    Federal Member for Hasluck
    Minister for Indigenous Australians

    MEDIA RELEASE

    13 January 2020

    REVIEW OF THE LANDS ACQUISITION ACT 1989

    Federal Member for Hasluck, the Hon Ken Wyatt AM MP is informing residents of the Lands Acquisition Act 1989 (the Act) review.

    The Government is undertaking a review of the Act to ensure it reflects modern community expectations and is in line with current public administration practices.

    Public consultation will inform the Review and feedback from interested people is invited.

    The Review will consider reforms made by state and territory governments and refine the Commonwealth’s approach.

    Any changes to the legislation as a result of the Review will not be retrospective.

    Public consultation will ensure views are taken into account and community expectations are understood, noting these may have changed since the Act was introduced.

    The Department of Finance has released a discussion paper to seek views on matters relating to the Act and welcomes submissions.

    Further details on the consultation process, including how to provide feedback, can be found on the Review website at:

    https://www.finance.gov.au/publications/reviews/review-lands-acquisition-act-1989

    – END –

    MEDIA CONTACT: Sebastian Rosati – [email protected] or (08) 9359 0322

  206. Cassie of Sydney

    “Many others have disappeared.”

    What….Atlantis!

    Sorry to disappoint you Turd but Atlantis is fiction.

  207. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mark A
    #3292905, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:39 am
    re disappearing islands
    Many others have disappeared.

    Name them.

    And don’t be snarky and say Google it yourself, I don’t know of any and I didn’t claim it, you did.
    Put up or..”

    He believes in Atlantis.

  208. it was estimated at 0.1 degrees

    +/- 0.5 degrees

    So it could be 0.6 and it might be -0.4.

  209. OldOzzie

    The Feminist Sociopath

    Which will it be, 21st-century feminists? An unfeeling, virtually sociopathic feminism or a feminism that is a proud and integral part of an ongoing project to more completely embrace humanity?

  210. John64 #3292903, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:37 am

    eggsactly.

  211. Herodotus

    There’s Tuvalu, and for the rest it’s toodle-oo.
    Yeah, right. Thanks for that, daily troll nutter.

  212. Roger

    “Indigenous Australians want their voices heard at all levels of government and want to help shape the policies and programs that affect their lives,” he said.

    Yeah? Well, don’t we all. Get to the back of the queu, mate.

  213. OldOzzie

    Shy Ted
    #3292902, posted on January 15, 2020 at 10:37 am
    “Soldiers to the left, projectionists to the right”.
    PS, visible and concealed gravatars don’t match. Go and stand in the corner, boy!

    B’Hell Shy Ted, you should put severe health shock possible on that link.

  214. calli

    Thanks, Rambler. I was too lazy to go back to the ded fred.

    On the atoll growing/sinking question, no one really seems to know.

    Darwin had a theory about it. Worth a look.

  215. 2020: The Lowest Solar Activity In Over 200 Years

    The magic CO2 is causing the Sun to go out.

    Repent ye sinners*.

    *Donate to Reverend Rambler’s Church of the Atmosphere. visa/MC/paypal and cash accepted.

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