CBS struggling to find any bad news in Trump’s America

The U.S. is near full employment. Get ready for a bad flu season.

Americans are urged to get flu shots every year, but there may be another factor that could sway them toward immunization: The country’s rising employment rate.

Because the U.S. is close to full employment, workplaces are more crowded, allowing the flu virus to spread more easily, according to an economist. In fact, each 1-percentage point increase in the employment rate correlates with a 16% bump in flu-related doctors’ visits, Erik Nesson, an associate professor of economics at Ball State University in Indiana, said.

“It seems to be a place where higher economic activity is detrimental to people’s health,” Nesson said in an interview Wednesday.

 
Having achieved or presided over full employment, a record-breaking stock market, a complete renovation of US foreign policy, the muzzling of Iran, the hitherto unimaginable coaxing of North Korea, the first steps away from a failed Afghanistan War, the de-Ginsburging of the judiciary and the demolition of the Russia hoax, it’s no wonder the media has only two stories to run. Besides Trump ‘flu, there is the imminent impeachment trial. Democrats and the journalists who work for them will be covering every angle of the circus to damage Donald Trump but it’s too late. Americans tuned out of Ukraine miscellanea months ago. It’s the second drawer down in the scandal kitchen. They also know the Democrats are running a sausage machine whose issue is offal and whose purpose is assassination-by-poison. Taking its theatrical lead from Speaker Pelosi, the New York Times (above) is playing the story as straight news; as a reality-based event. A “somber ritual,” it says. Yes, one could describe a desecration as sombre. And that’s what this ‘trial’ is: a desecration of democracy and the Constitution by embittered liars covering up their own catalogue of crimes.

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75 Responses to CBS struggling to find any bad news in Trump’s America

  1. Iampeter

    CBS struggling to find any bad news in Trump’s America

    If you’re struggling to find bad news then you’re not really looking and/or are just being incredibly dishonest.
    From out of control spending, regulations and central planning, through to cowardly appeasement of America’s enemies and the President even getting himself impeached, it’s a complete disaster.

    Heck, you didn’t even get the idiotic wall that had so many voting for Trump in the first place.

    Trump is king of failing on every level and claiming victory.

    Actually, he’d make a pretty poster at the Cat…

  2. Mother Lode

    Because the U.S. is close to full employment, workplaces are more crowded,

    Are they really arguing that higher employment means the same space dedicated to employees and therefore increased density?

    Instead of businesses opening up in new premises, expanding into new premises etc.

    If CBS is like our progressive media, they will be familiar with the opposite where the steady culling of staff without downsizing the corporate offices has resulted in people being fewer and further between. It may well have been their own managers who advised them that “Hey, we may have cut 10% of the staff on this floor, but now there is less chance of contracting flu. Also greater availability of toilets. And more coffee to go around, so it is really a good thing!”

  3. jo

    Impeteant, you know all about failure. A lifetime of it.

  4. Tim Neilson

    and the President even getting himself impeached

    Ladies and gentlemen I give you Iamashiteater, this site’s number one worshipper of big government statism.

    Because an institution of government controlled by statists has taken an action, Iamshiteater assumes with no evidence that that action is 100% justified.

    “It’s government – it’s good!”, that’s the Iamashiteater creed!

  5. J-man

    I would think a good explanation for increased doctor’s visits when there is increased employment is the requirement to get a sick certificate when you take sick leave from work.

  6. Tim Neilson

    out of control spending,

    It’s actually declining – very slightly – as a percentage of GDP. Not “good news” but hardly “bad news”, especially given the previous trajectory.

    [out of control] regulations and central planning,

    Trump’s actually repealed more regulation than he’s introduced.

    through to cowardly appeasement of America’s enemies

    Which ones? How? Oh yes, that’s what they’re all saying about his latest dealing with Iran… no, wait, …

    Iamashiteater, I know you’re a vociferous advocate for willful ignorance as a prerequisite to policy-making, but don’t you think you’re overdoing it?

  7. Iampeter

    Trump’s actually repealed more regulation than he’s introduced.

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    You’re referring to a few of his less important appointees in a few areas he doesn’t care about, cutting back some red tape. Red tape that whoever replaces them will just easily re-implement.

    This is called “fiddling around the margins” and is the best we ever get from conservatives.

    Basically all conservatives can do today is concede that they are a bunch of statists, but then say “hey it’s not bad news! At least we’re not socialists!”

  8. Alan

    As to the impeachment… this may actually be a cunning Lawfare ploy against Dem candidates.

    Current Dem Senators Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar and Michael Bennet all risk losing out on invaluable time on the 2020 campaign trail.
    They will be required to remain physically in the US Senate in Washington to conduct the Impeachment Trial. And guess what – this will happen right during the peak of the early Democratic primary campaign.
    Only Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg will be free to travel the US to drum up support.

  9. Iskra

    CBS are a miserable lot of buggers we know about miserable buggers we have impete , the ultimate pessimist , I nominate him for “the great Australian Whinger” title anyone second that?
    CBS is that Communist Bull Shit ?

  10. mh

    Iampeter left home alone again.

  11. Tim Neilson

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    You’re referring to a few of his less important appointees in a few areas he doesn’t care about, cutting back some red tape.

    Behold the Iamashiteater doctrine!

    Trump cutting back “red tape” – irrelevant. We’ll just redefine “regulations” to mean only “regulations that required an act of the legislature to be repealed”, and by that magic goalpost shift TDS can continue.

    Because nothing can be good unless it’s done with all the pomp and pageantry of big government action.

    “It’s government – it’s good!”, that’s the Iamashiteater creed!

  12. Tim Neilson

    the ultimate pessimist , I nominate him for “the great Australian Whinger” title anyone second that?

    OK, but one slight correction re pessimism.

    He’s incurably optimistic about his own supposed omniscience and genius.

  13. Iskra

    Too right Tim agree with you there ,hes one of my scroll by s ,rarely read the smart ass comments ,negative contributer .

  14. classical_hero

    The Democrats and the media, but I repeat myself, are criminal enterprises.

  15. mh

    Omar has totally destroyed Trump

    Ilhan Omar

    @IlhanMN
    GAO says Trump violated the law.

    A Trump associate said Trump “knew exactly what was going on.”

    Ukraine is investigating whether he surveilled his own Ambassador.

    Any other president would have resigned by now.

    Donald Trump and all who have been implicated must step down.

    3:20 AM – Jan 17, 2020

    More destruction of Trump here

  16. Tim Neilson

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    Actually, Iamashiteater’s self-beclownment is even more abject than my reply indicates.

    In US Federal law, “regulations” aren’t passed by Congress – Congress passes “Acts” and executive agencies promulgate “regulations”, and so the idea that Trump needs a Bill to repeal “regulations” demonstrates Iamashiteater’s woeful lack of knowledge.

  17. Professor Fred Lenin

    These decromats are a bunch pf lying , , criminal ,treasonous ,unprincipled low bred bastards they should be sent to a gulag in far north Alaska for a minimum of 100 years at hard labour . Seems every western country has its share of these traitorous bastards ,re start the gulag industry .

  18. nb

    ‘higher economic activity is detrimental to people’s health’
    This is one of the most perfect, brilliant, glorious things I have ever read.
    I expect a flood of ABC/BBC documentaries based on this proposition. Things like how Gough Whitlam gave us Medibank and unemployment to help our health outcomes – compare and contrast with Orange Man/Thatcher/Howard etc. Or, studies of EU Mediterranean countries where youth is being saved from a lifetime of health problems. Oh, and the universities … a field day for research.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    LOL. I suspect most large corporations provide free flu vaccine as did one I worked for. It’s a no brainer: $20 for the vaccine vs a thousand plus in sick pay if an employee goes off work – and even worse if the employee passes flu to colleagues.

    Then there’s the fact that the antivax movement seems to be mainly on the Left, like CBS.

    I agree that there is some Righty antivaccine concerns, but I suspect that is primarily focused on the MMR vaccine which is manufactured using a cell-line from an aborted foetus. The manufacturers have themselves to blame, as an alternative which doesn’t use that cell-line is almost certainly developable.

  20. candy

    When CBS say “workplaces” they must mean media offices like theirs, because not everyone works in an office. Some outdoors, some travelling in work, some at home, some on farms, some in isolated areas, some going from place to place like tradesmen, so many different types of workplaces.

    Maybe its something they have not realised, that media offices are not everything?

  21. ACTOldFart

    Once again, Iambic Pentameter has hijacked a thread. Rather than squabble endlessly with him, can I respectfully suggest to the moderators of this blog, that they invite IaP to submit an article, along the “This I Believe” lines, so that we can all get some idea of what he is on about, and comment on it, and if needed do to him what he does to many of the articles here?

    For the life of me, I can’t get a grip on where he is coming from. Is he extreme far right, some sort of demonic spawn of Ayn Rand and that unsightly creature that keeps popping up in “Alien” movies? Or some sort of Proudhon, Bakunin, Malatesta “abolish ’em all or blow ’em all up” style anarchist? And if he is some sort of individualist-anarchist believer, why is he joining in such an intensely collectivist medium as the Internet?

    And stop calling him “Iams%^teater”. That just leaves it open for him to say “they can’t argue with me so they insult me”‘

    Of couse, should he decline any offer to state his position here, then we will all know that we are seeing an essentially hollow man.

  22. Lee

    Heck, you didn’t even get the idiotic wall that had so many voting for Trump in the first place.

    Be honest (for once), and admit that you would vote for the Democrats (because there is absolutely no alternative) if you had to choose.

    And you have the gall to call others who would never vote for the Democrats “left wingers’!

  23. Chris M

    I suspect most large corporations provide free flu vaccine as did one I worked for. It’s a no brainer: $20 for the vaccine vs a thousand plus in sick pay if an employee goes off work

    Wouldn’t make any difference. Last year in Australia the flu vaccine showed only 10% efficacy; found out this via US media, mainstream don’t report this over here. I’m pro-vaccine but only if it actually works somewhat – this one was so close to useless it was barely measurable. At this point it’s only effective at milking Medicare.

  24. Tim Neilson

    And stop calling him “Iams%^teater”.

    Hmm, I’ll think about it, given that the request seems well intentioned….

    That just leaves it open for him to say “they can’t argue with me so they insult me”‘

    Embrace the power of “both”.

    Is he extreme far right, some sort of demonic spawn of Ayn Rand and that unsightly creature that keeps popping up in “Alien” movies?

    He’s very definitely an unthinking devotee of all the least credible aspects of Ayn Rand’s “thought”. But he clearly suffers other mental deficiencies.

  25. mh

    Because the U.S. is close to full employment, workplaces are more crowded, allowing the flu virus to spread more easily, according to an economist.

    If a 3.5 percent unemployment rate is not considered full employment, how is full employment measured in the US?

  26. a happy little debunker

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    Fancy being so ignorant you cannot tell the difference between regulation and legislation?

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Last year in Australia the flu vaccine showed only 10% efficacy

    100% efficacy in a study I carried out (n=1).
    😀

  28. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    demonstrates Iamashiteater’s woeful lack of knowledge

    About everything.

    Again.

  29. Zatara

    Interesting looks at the results of Trump’s deregulation efforts, particularly the effects on small business and the cost savings overall.

    Deregulation Nation: President Trump Cuts Regulations At Record Rate

    Regulations Cut: Another Yuuuge Trump Promise Fulfilled

    Note that the articles are from 2017-2018, so the effects are likely more pronounced now that the cuts have had more time to act.

  30. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Fancy being so ignorant you cannot tell the difference between regulation and legislation

    In Iamashiteater world this is referred to as “knowing aboot da politix, nah, nah, nah”, while simultaneously effortlessly demonstrating its total ignorance of the concept.

  31. C.L.

    When CBS say “workplaces” they must mean media offices like theirs, because not everyone works in an office. Some outdoors, some travelling in work, some at home, some on farms, some in isolated areas, some going from place to place like tradesmen, so many different types of workplaces.

    Indeed.

  32. Tel

    The U.S. is near full employment.

    That’s not what you see when you look at the charts … full employment was a lot fuller back in 2000.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART/

    However, there has been a recent, small, uptick which is a fine thing, but a long way from where it used to be. Also, it’s been a long time since the last recession, and I do believe that Trump has assisted in keeping the economy going, because there would have been a recession by now under Hillary. However, how long can he keep it up? No one knows for sure.

  33. stackja

    Network 10 is an Australian commercial television network.
    Owned by: Ten Network Holdings; (ViacomCBS Networks International)

  34. stackja

    1960s CBS supported Dems. 2020 CBS supports Dems.

  35. Tel

    Trump’s actually repealed more regulation than he’s introduced.

    Yes I agree … it’s a small miracle and staying so far out of the news cycle that even most libertarians don’t know about it. Perhaps sometime around 2030 after Global Warming has mercilessly killed us all and I’m hanging around my beachfront property in Western Sydney (dead but otherwise happy about my real estate purchase) some Australian government might send a fact finding junket to the USA and learn something.

  36. Leo G

    Because the U.S. is close to full employment, workplaces are more crowded, allowing the flu virus to spread more easily … In fact, each 1-percentage point increase in the employment rate correlates with a 16% bump in flu-related doctors’ visits … It seems to be a place where higher economic activity is detrimental to people’s health.

    Or maybe its a place where the recently employed need a medical certificate to be paid medical leave while recovering from influenza.

  37. Squirrel

    “CBS struggling to find any bad news in Trump’s America”

    No worries – their Australian subsidiary is finding plenty of bad news in Trump’s close ally’s Australia – and our bushfires are proof of what happens when the deplorables have their way and elect reactionary populist gummints (as we heard in the Democrat debate earlier this week).

  38. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Tel at 7:05 pm:

    “… However, how long can he keep it up? No one knows for sure.”

    Too right – how do we know when he might declare war on Brussels or Bolivia? Trade relations with China are not secure; and he promised a wall along the southern border and has not built it.

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average, The S&P 500 index and the DOW are very different to what they were at the close of business yesterday, an inescapable fact – that too is down to Trump.

    Donald Trump has stubbornly forced so many changes on the USA.

  39. Scott Osmond

    The secret king strikes the thread again. The regulations Trump is repealing will just be replaced by the next democrat. Ah, and now we see what his kind of advice is, don’t do anything because the left will simpley replace it when they get back in office. This is why ladies and gentlemen the left keeps on pushing things left. People like Iamashiteater counciling despair. Be silent wormtongue we know you for what you are. On another point I’m once again amused by the secret king not knowing the difference between legislation and regulation. The latter doesn’t need the president to go cap in hand to a hostile house to change it. As long as it is within the delegated powers set down in the legislation.

    Now we see what that drunken sot Nancy was up to with delaying the articles. It was a way of helping creepy uncle Joe in the early primaries.

  40. John Dee

    Re identifying a poster as Iamashiteater:
    I operate on the time-honoured and sound principle of if it “looks like a duck etc”
    Iamashiteater stands.
    The insult is deserved…and intended.
    Next.

  41. Fair shake of the sauce

    Sky news: after the China USA trade deal The US stockmarket is up…but not as high as we should expect.

    Sky news earlier: Australia will be damaged in the crossfire between USA trade war with China.
    Sky news Later: Australia will lose out with the signing of USA China free trade deal.

    Let’s cross back to the Bushfires and drive confidence down further.

    MSM Parasites.

  42. Tim Neilson

    However, how long can he keep it up? No one knows for sure.

    People whose opinion I respect say that some of the economic improvement is caused by things Trump has done which may have to be unwound eventually. If they’re right it seems that Trump is betting that he can create enough momentum to sail through the headwinds caused by those unwinds.
    I’m nowhere near informed enough to comment.
    But I’d rather have someone like Trump who has a plan to try to improve things for ordinary Americans than someone like Obama who simply sneers that it would take a “magic wand” to get them jobs, and who thinks good government is just disdainfully tossing them a wad of food stamps.

  43. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Tim Neilson at 9:15 pm:

    “However, how long can he keep it up? No one knows for sure.

    People whose opinion I respect say that some of the economic improvement is caused by things Trump has done which may have to be unwound eventually. If they’re right …”

    We will never know if they are very smart or not.

    We do know that Donald Trump has been extraordinarily successful across several fronts simultaneously, for four years against concerted opposition which he routinely destroys, employing a momentum I have not seen in any president from Kennedy onwards. His energy, focus and determination is exceptional – he is over 70 and does not need to do what he does for the benefit of so many ungrateful slobs, grubs, traitors and know all ignoramuses.

    Anyone can have an opinion. Very, very few can claim an outstanding track record.

  44. Fat Tony

    ACTOldFart
    #3295367, posted on January 17, 2020 at 6:08 pm
    Once again, Iambic Pentameter has hijacked a thread. Rather than squabble endlessly with him, can I respectfully suggest to the moderators of this blog, that they invite IaP to submit an article, along the “This I Believe” lines, so that we can all get some idea of what he is on about, and comment on it, and if needed do to him what he does to many of the articles here?

    I suggested that to him some months ago only to be called “Trailer Trash”

    His limited intelligence probably can’t hold consistent and coherent thoughts any longer than a goldfish.

  45. Trump’s actually repealed more regulation than he’s introduced.

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    I see a commenter who does not understand the US government, Regulations DO NOT require legislation. In fact, regulations are the product of the Administrative State that is being rolled back. For decades, Congress has written vague bills that are implemented by thousands of pages of regulations issued by agencies that are technically part of the Executive Branch, not Congress. What Trump has done is to require that two regulations must be repealed for every new one issued. The result has been the surge of productive enterprise freed from the dead hand of regulation, thousands issued by Obama’s administration.

  46. Iampeter

    Fancy being so ignorant you cannot tell the difference between regulation and legislation?

    There is no difference you embarrassing clown.

    Once again, Iambic Pentameter has hijacked a thread.

    If you think I’m “hijacking” any thread then I can’t imagine what you’re doing on a right wing blog.

    And stop calling him “Iams%^teater”. That just leaves it open for him to say “they can’t argue with me so they insult me”‘

    I think the ship has long sailed on pretending any of you have any idea except insults. Even you’re own post is an example of delusional pretensions and condescension, instead of any relevant point of disagreement.

    Of couse, should he decline any offer to state his position here, then we will all know that we are seeing an essentially hollow man.

    My position has been stated numerous times and quite extensively in many threads. I’ve patiently explained things that shouldn’t need any explanation on what’s meant to be a right wing blog.

    It’s YOU who needs to state your position. Why are you, as obviously a mindless supporter of Trump, on a right wing blog?

    Why do you think you not knowing what you’re talking about means you can condescend to those you disagree with but have no counter arguments?

  47. Iampeter

    The secret king strikes the thread again. The regulations Trump is repealing will just be replaced by the next democrat.

    If actual bills are passed the deregulate things they are hard-to-impossible to undo by later democrat administrations.

    On the other hand, random bureaucracies randomly fiddling with red tape, is not “deregulation.”

    Until conservatives actually pass some bills deregulating anything, they need to stop pretending they are some kind of advocates of small government.

    But conservatives are too politically illiterate and dishonest to get this.

  48. Zatara

    The Federal Register is the bible of US regulations.

    Trump reduced it by 32% within 6 months of his inauguration.

    During that year he attained a 22-1 kill ratio. 22 regulations killed for every one added.

    The cost value savings of those cuts was estimated at $10 billion.

  49. BorisG,

    Lev Parnas has flipped. Giuliani next ?

  50. BorisG,
    #3295793, posted on January 18, 2020 at 10:02 am

    Lev Parnas has flipped. Giuliani next ?

    You are watching lunatic hate mongering, conspiracy theory trash like CNN and MSNBC.

    Please tell us what crimes you believe they committed.

  51. Tim Neilson

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    Iampeter
    #3295734, posted on January 18, 2020 at 8:14 am
    Iampeter
    #3295735, posted on January 18, 2020 at 8:16 am

    Will you, for once in your life, post an honest comment, and admit that you’ve spectacularly beclowned yourself by failing to understand that in the USA repeal of “regulations” does not require a Bill?

  52. Tel

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    The Obamacare individual mandate was repealed via a bill.

    However, as others have pointed out many “administrative state” regulations simply appear or disappear with the stroke of a pen by a faceless bureaucrat in some unknown office. Sad … but that’s what we are reduced to in this modern world, and Trump has made things ever so slightly better.

    Michelle Obama’s dumbarse school lunch rules came via power delegated to the USDA … and you have to wonder who elected Michelle Obama to any position of authority over what kids eat? Anyway, the lunch rules were removed by the same delegated power when Sonny Perdue was appointed Agriculture Secretary. I guess someone has to decide what is good for kids to eat, but after the “food pyramid” fiasco you would that the USDA would be the very last people to be entitled an opinion.

    At any rate at least Sonny Perdue’s food selection has some official capacity to it.

  53. Tel

    But I’d rather have someone like Trump who has a plan to try to improve things for ordinary Americans than someone like Obama who simply sneers that it would take a “magic wand” to get them jobs, and who thinks good government is just disdainfully tossing them a wad of food stamps.

    Yup.

    So far, Trump has been somewhat better than the whole nation giving itself a collective uppercut.

    A small blessing, but still appreciated.

  54. Iampeter

    The Obamacare individual mandate was repealed via a bill.

    No they didn’t. Their pathetic attempts to repeal any aspect of Obamacare fell apart pretty quickly. Conservatives don’t have any arguments to oppose government run healthcare. That’s why they always talk about repeal and replace. They can’t imagine a world without government running healthcare anymore than progressives can.

    So, precisely because they couldn’t repeal any aspect of Obamacare, they decided to bypass the whole need to have any ideas, used their unrelated fake tax bill to reduce the penalty for not buying mandatory insurance to zero, hoping this would then render the individual mandate “not a tax” and therefore be struck down by a court.

    Only if you uncritically except talking points from the tribe you randomly belong to, could you consider any aspect of this farce as “repealing” anything.

    Instead this should be another example for actual capitalists and advocates of rights-protecting government to be condemning the hopelessly bankrupt conservative movement.

    Sad … but that’s what we are reduced to in this modern world, and Trump has made things ever so slightly better.

    Surrendering to the status quo of an ever growing, ever unaccountable welfare and regulatory state is not a way to make “things better.”
    It just proves the lack of any alternative ideas.
    Just more good news from the Trump administration, right?

  55. Tim Neilson

    Iampeter
    #3295983, posted on January 18, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    Will you, for once in your life, post an honest comment, and admit that you’ve spectacularly beclowned yourself by failing to understand that in the USA repeal of “regulations” does not require a Bill?

  56. Iampeter

    A couple more repeal bills.

    Trump signs bill repealing ACA Cadillac tax, granting ‘relief’ for employers

    Trump signs permanent repeal of medical device tax

    Those are not repeal bills. Those are literally spending bills. Having a bit tacked on here and there, reducing some trivial cost here and there, is exactly what I would describe as fiddling around the margins.

    You guys don’t even know what an actual deregulation looks like. Not even theoretically.

    It would be something like “Get Government Out Of Healthcare Act.”
    It would be directly put forward and authored by men who could provide the correct, philosophically grounded and politically literate arguments for it. Not attempted as a run-around the process because of no ideas, or sneakily tacked onto a larger bill that’s actually expanding regulations and spending.
    They would persuade the American public to put pressure on their Congressmen to vote for it.
    They would have the political savvy to persuade Congressmen directly to vote for it.
    Then when passed it would be a nightmare to repeal because the whole process would have to be followed in reverse.

    That’s why Obama was prepared to sacrifice so much to get Obamacare through. He knew once that was done, it wasn’t going anywhere.

    You guys are just doing exactly what I said earlier in the thread, celebrating central planning and statism while consoling yourselves that at least you’re not coherent and clear headed enough to be actual socialists. Winning!

  57. Zatara

    No they didn’t. Their pathetic attempts to repeal any aspect of Obamacare fell apart pretty quickly.

    Congress repeals ObamaCare individual mandate

  58. Tim Neilson

    Iampeter
    #3296003, posted on January 18, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation. Not even one such bill has been passed nor are there any plans to pass such bills.

    Will you, for once in your life, post an honest comment, and admit that you’ve spectacularly beclowned yourself by failing to understand that in the USA repeal of “regulations” does not require a Bill?

  59. Kneel

    “Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation.”

    “You guys don’t even know what an actual deregulation looks like.”

    You understand the difference between reducing the number of regulations and removing all government control, right? The former simplifies the system, the latter removes all control. With the “deep state” being so left wing, we have to erode their power first – makes it easier to get rid of them altogether, see?
    We can change the legislation easily enough with a majority, and force changes to regulations onto departments etc, but we still gotta live with the rules, can’t change those.

  60. Iampeter

    Congress repeals ObamaCare individual mandate

    But it didn’t. I guess you prefer to mindlessly accept talking points from shills over actual knowledge and facts.

    You understand the difference between reducing the number of regulations and removing all government control, right?

    Yes. Do you understand the difference between an actual capitalist and right winger and those too confused to just be socialists? The latter are not the same thing as the former, yet many of them post at the Cat thinking otherwise.

    With the “deep state” being so left wing, we have to erode their power first – makes it easier to get rid of them altogether, see?

    Sure, but that doesn’t describe anything Trump is doing. He’s not eroding anything.
    We have things like the out of control spending bills.
    We have tariffs, policy so economically illiterate and left wing that even democrats haven’t pushed for it in decades.
    We have record bailouts to farming businesses predictably destroyed by the these trade regulations.
    We have the President of the United States screaming orders at CEO’s over Twitter.
    And so on. But let’s celebrate all the good news out of this administration, right?
    You guys don’t seem to understand the basic facts and the most basic of which is that conservatives are not an alternative to progressives. Just a stupider version of them. Trump is not an alternative to Bernie or Warren. Just a more buffoon and incompetent version.

    We can change the legislation easily enough with a majority, and force changes to regulations onto departments etc, but we still gotta live with the rules, can’t change those.

    Then you don’t really have a deregulatory agenda. I’ve explained a few times now in this thread what one looks like and you keep ignoring it and regurgitating the same mindless talking points.

  61. struth

    You’re too thick to argue with Iampoyda.
    Many here could pull your stupidity to pieces.
    For example.
    The democrats don’t want borders so of course they don’t want tariffs on imports.
    They are going for global socialism.
    The nation state is of no concern to them and it’s destruction preferred.
    That’s why tariffs aren’t on their agenda.
    The rest of your dribble we could pull apart but for what point?
    You’re just a deluded anarchist.

  62. Kneel


    “Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation.”
    “Then you don’t really have a deregulatory agenda.”

    You’re the one conflating “reduced regulation” with “deregulation”.
    You’re the one saying that reducing regulatory burden is leftist.
    You’re the one saying that renegotiating trade deals to get equal access and taxes on both ways of trade is leftist, destabilising etc.
    You’re the one saying non-US partners in US trade deals should be able to ignore the parts they don’t like, while the US is forced to play by the rules, and the US should do nothing about it.
    You’re the one begging the US to play world cop, then bitching they won’t leave.

    Yep, you – you and your leftie mates. The ones that flit around the world in private jets and mega-yachts telling the plebs not to use incandescent light bulbs to “save the planet” from CO2. The ones that complain about capitalism “failing”, when in reality, it’s the crony capitalism that you yourselves created that has failed – of course it did, it’s only purpose was to make the establish richer! It worked too – no-one is really poor, at least, no one worth speaking about.

    But hey, why let facts get in the way of your story, eh? Trump clearly knows nothing of politics, that’s how he managed to get the republican presidential nomination as an outsider, then managed to get elected, actually kept or tried to keep his promises, and then managed to get a better approval rating at this point in his term than Obummer – better than most since WWII, actually. Clearly no political nous, right? How could he have any – he’s not IamPeter, who as we all know is the only one who understands politics. Got investment and wages growing in the US too – so clearly no knowledge of economics either. Got the best black and latino unemployment numbers ever – so obviously a white supremacist, right? Still, a pretty good effort for a crude, racist ignoramous, what?

  63. Iampeter

    You’re the one conflating “reduced regulation” with “deregulation”.
    You’re the one saying that reducing regulatory burden is leftist.

    I’m just saying Trump is overall increasing the welfare and regulatory state and spending and is therefore a leftist.
    Nothing I’ve said could even accidentally be interpreted as suggesting reducing regulations is left wing.

    You’re the one saying non-US partners in US trade deals should be able to ignore the parts they don’t like, while the US is forced to play by the rules, and the US should do nothing about it…

    Yes, everything you’ve written there is what I expect to hear from a clueless leftist.
    Not sure why no one at Australia’s leading right wing blog isn’t point this out…

    Yep, you – you and your leftie mates.

    Who are you talking about? You’re the leftist, right down to the clueless talking points about “fair trade” etc. You’re just too clueless about the subject of politics to even realize it.

    Trump clearly knows nothing of politics, that’s how he managed to get the republican presidential nomination as an outsider, then managed to get elected

    Yea, the conservative movement is completely ideologically bankrupt. That leaves it ripe to be taken over by any fast talking grifter, which is exactly what happened.

  64. struth

    Iampoo really hates the right winning.

    TDS.

  65. Tim Neilson

    But it didn’t. I guess you prefer to mindlessly accept talking points from shills over actual knowledge and facts.

    Will you, for once in your life, post an honest comment, and admit that you’ve spectacularly beclowned yourself by failing to understand that in the USA repeal of “regulations” does not require a Bill?

  66. Roger

    “Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation.”

    A contender for stupidest comment ever at the Cat.

  67. struth

    You’re the one saying non-US partners in US trade deals should be able to ignore the parts they don’t like, while the US is forced to play by the rules, and the US should do nothing about it…Yes, everything you’ve written there is what I expect to hear from a clueless leftist.
    Not sure why no one at Australia’s leading right wing blog isn’t point this out…

    Because we understand the difference between free trade and fair trade.

  68. mh

    “Trump hasn’t repealed a single regulation.”

    A contender for stupidest comment ever at the Cat.

    Iampeter has some tough competition. From Iampeter.

    Trump isn’t a capitalist. You don’t seem to know what “capitalist” really means and I think you’ve confused it with “businessman.” Which Trump also is not.

  69. Iampeter

    Iampoo really hates the right winning.

    TDS.

    I’m just pointing out that none of you are on “the right” nor have the faintest clue on this topic anyway.

  70. Tim Neilson

    I’m just pointing out that none of you are on “the right” nor have the faintest clue on this topic anyway.

    Will you, for once in your life, post an honest comment, and admit that you’ve spectacularly beclowned yourself by failing to understand that in the USA repeal of “regulations” does not require a Bill?

  71. struth

    I’m just pointing out that none of you are on “the right” nor have the faintest clue on this topic anyway.

    Tanslation;
    I’m just having my regular Sunday wank…………………..it lasts for seven days.

  72. Mother Lode

    I have always been sceptical about stories that Trump has ‘flown’ to such and such country and signed a trade deal: I am sure he has pilots they fly the plane.

    Better check Snopes.

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