Open Forum: January 18, 2020

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  1. egg_

    “I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.

    Dame Edna couldn’t have said it better.

  2. struth

    I bet the Ranga ex Prince thought his missus was white until she said she was actually black.
    I thought she was white when I first saw her and so did you.
    I bet Michael Jackson would be pissed off to find nowadays he just have to declare himself white.
    He is the only recorded case of black to white however. …………so maybe he’d still have to do the plastic surgery thing.
    #everyoneisblack.

  3. Top Ender

    My bottle of red bet that Hazza will separate from Megs by January 2022 is looking good.

    By then he will have had two years of following her around, wondering what the hell he is doing, and wishing he could be back with a few Army mates checking out the latest bit of helicopter kit, followed by excessive beer drinking.

    Two years of having Megs tell him what to wear, how to think, and what to say.

    Maybe I should have gone for two bottle and one year.

  4. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Palace courtiers will have had a wild ride bowing and bobbing in The Presence and balancing silver platters bearing notes whilst walking backwards. Stress leave on the horizon.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Two years of having Megs tell him what to wear, how to think, and what to say.

    Two years of watching her do the “You go, girl” photo shoots…I’ll go with two years.

  6. Dr Faustus

    Storm clouds gather for the It’s-Climate-Change-Stupid-Not-Fuel-Loads brigade:

    Right fire for right future: how cultural burning can protect Australia from catastrophic blazes

    Experts, head-tilts reporters in crisp HiViz, and former Fire Chiefs have no chance against the sheer woke-power of “Indigenous fire practitioners” and “cultural burning”.

    The smart money is already ahead of the curve:

    Dr David Bowman is a professor of pyrogeography and fire science at the University of Tasmania. Bowman describes Indigenous fire management as “little fires tending the earth affectionately”.

    An entire new industry is being born out of the ashes.
    Almost very little potential for unintended consequences here.

  7. calli

    I wonder if Harry and Missus will catch the ferry from Vancouver Island with all the plebs.

    They are into “planet saving” after all.

  8. cohenite

    Dr Faustus
    #3296506, posted on January 19, 2020 at 9:31 am
    In Megxit news:
    “I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.
    HM does a savage pisstake.

    From the article:

    “The British public have lost out because these are two fantastic people who sprinkle fairy dust wherever they go and we are going to miss that, but clearly it was not making them happy.”

    That fairy dust is turning into urine crystals.

  9. Dr Faustus

    The future is writ large for Hazza and Meg:

    Harry and Meghan would be able to protect their privacy by mansion’s gates, tall hedges and 20-foot wall

    Hiding behind a fuckoff fence, knowing there will be drones, and helicopters, and boats cruising just offshore loaded with long lenses waiting for the ‘Meghan-with-her-tits-out’ supernova payday.

  10. Megan

    Fairy dust sprinkling! More evidence of Blair”s Law in action.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Paul
    2 hours ago
    (Edited)
    Fast forward three years, a scene in the middle of a cold London winter a scruffy long ginger bearded homeless man raps on the front door of the palace looking for a warm bed and a feed.

    Comment from the Telegraph.

  12. Megan

    And look! The fairy dust created a new page. Magic!

  13. Tom

    I burnt down $150,000* worth of my old man’s farm sheds in a splendid conflagration when I was four. I believe that qualifies me as a pyrogeographer, proudly sponsored by Bryant and May.

    *present-day dollars.

  14. Entropy

    professor of pyrogeography* and fire science

    Awesome. That’s the way to do it, create your own scientific field and it’s money for nothing and your undergrads for free.

    * truth to tell the field has been around about 25 years.

  15. MatrixTransform

    How many fellas have had to give up their jobs because of their wives.?

    Actually Min, a call to that effect put the last nail in the coffin of my first marriage.

    I can see now in retrospect how the passive-aggressive witch systematically destroyed my first business to the point where I took a job with a multi-national. (so yes I gave uo my job on demand)

    when I announced I was going back into business she turned the bullshit up to eleventy.

    I told her to stick it. (so, no I didn’t give it up …still doing it now)

    I’d ring young Harry and give him a clue or two but unfortunately he’s cvntstvck

  16. Dr Faustus

    I wonder if Harry and Missus will catch the ferry from Vancouver Island with all the plebs.
    They are into “planet saving” after all.

    Young and naive.
    I bet you haven’t even heard of carbon offsets – far less bought some to cover the carbins emitted by your helicopter trip.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How many fellas have had to give up their jobs because of their wives.?

    My then wife – now my ex – nagged and complained, until I got out of the military…

  18. struth

    professor of pyrogeography* and fire scienceAwesome. That’s the way to do it, create your own scientific field and it’s money for nothing and your undergrads for free.* truth to tell the field has been around about 25 years.

    It was a forest before that?

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    I believe that qualifies me as a pyrogeographer, proudly sponsored by Bryant and May.

    Count me in as a member. Started a summer bushfire, trying to smoke out wild bees. (God! They were savage bastards.) Not long after it got up a gallop a Lancaster bomber (Subs check) appeared overhead in surveillance mode. Fortunately, the north wind pushed the fire toward open farmland. Cost of bomber – unknown. Cost of local policeman’s time, who arrived at the house on secret men’s business, also not factored in.

  20. I note no mention of who is picking up the bodyguard expenses for Megzit. Would cost more per year than the money being repaid for Frogmore renos. If Scotland Yard still providing then very significant costs and will have to be significant Canadian input and costs.

    Once they start making their millions Scotland Yard needs to invoice them.

    Or they could hire Kevin Costner.

  21. Geriatric Mayfly

    I note no mention of who is picking up the bodyguard expenses for Megzit.

    State secret apparently. History buffs here would know the ransom price for a Prince (in today’s dollars) if the Mooslies ever got hold of Hazza.

  22. vlad

    I’ve only ever heard good of Harry Messel and this image says a lot.

    https://binged.it/38iQ4t2

  23. 132andBush

    I would like to reiterate a point Armadillo made re the speed limit issue proposed by the UN and backed by the spineless never to be voted for again Nats/Libs.

    Cui bono?
    Model A Fords with crook cooling systems are going to keep up with the traffic in our brave new world.

  24. Old School Conservative

    Do I detect a lot of negotiation skills in QEII?
    Harry and Meghan lose their Royal titles, stop receiving public funds, pay back the costs of renovating Frogmore Cottage, the public are told they are no longer working members of the Royal Family and no longer formally represent the Queen.
    They get to keep Duke and Duchess titles and Frogmore Cottage as their UK residence.

    Harry’s opening gambit was “step down to junior royal status” and do the job for half a year.
    I think he has been comprehensively outplayed.

  25. vlad

    Two minor pieces are no match for a queen.

  26. Old School Conservative

    “The Art of the Deal, 2nd edition” by DJ Trump and QEII.

  27. Mark A

    132andBush
    #3296555, posted on January 19, 2020 at 10:40 am

    Cui bono?
    Model A Fords with crook cooling systems are going to keep up with the traffic in our brave new world.

    As a side note,
    I’m wondering where Arky is going with this new plate he made up.
    If he wants to make a new frame, why bother with drilling holes?
    Just have a clear opening in that plate no need to restrict the flow.
    Waiting with baited breath for future developments.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m in the process of reading Douglas Murray’s “The Madness of Crowds; Gender, Race and Identity”. It is, of course, very good in the obvious things that it tackles, with plenty of exampling of how dopey things have become out there in the polity and mediascape, with tentacles everywhere. But what I am particularly enjoying are the motifs throughout of the sheer madness of it all, and the reflections about why it is happening and what we might be able to do about that.

    Particularly, Murray has a small chapter midway in the book (he calls it ‘An Interlude’) on Forgiveness, which I think deserves more attention than it gets in the main GLBTI and ‘diversity’ thrust of the book. Forgiveness is one of the things that I have found most attractive about Christianity, in a personal sense, but also in an explanatory sense as to why Christianity has and still has such great and enduring appeal; for human social life cannot exist without forgiveness, given the argumentative and disruptive apes that we all still carry in our genetic make-up. It also combines with humility. Murray doesn’t mention this specifically, but it is there in his appreciation of how we need to consider the past and the actions of people there in terms of their concepts and choices, not in terms of ours. This does of course rather beg the question of an ‘essentialist’ morality, but I skip that for the moment as he does. Murray points out that in the internet age, where the internet doesn’t ‘forget’ as in normal human life as time moves on, an individual’s life history is collapsed because everything is as retrievable as though it happened yesterday and the forgiveness offered by time and distance is lacking (perhaps until we start to establish some ideas of internet distance, I’d suggest?).

    Also interesting regarding forgiveness in Christianity is its association with the idea of ‘redemption’. Murray doesn’t go into this at all, but it is clearly all part of the same impulse to recombine as a communal group and ‘move on’. These are powerful moral precepts, which for me are hard to find in such immediacy in the other great religious philosophies of the world: the familial ancestral constraints of Confucianism, the self-abnegation of Buddhism, the plethora of deistic moral choice in Hinduism, the rigidities of Is-lam.

    Anyway, Murray’s ten page interlude has got me thinking and I thought I’d share some of that here.

  29. Entropy

    I bet you haven’t even heard of carbon offsets – far less bought some to cover the carbins emitted by your helicopter trip

    In the old days they were called “indulgences”.

  30. Porter

    I hope Harry has a damn fine prenup. He is stupid not to but I bet he hasn’t.
    I hope this also means he loses his sixth spot in the line of succession.
    Meghan will milk this in America – prince leaves all for his fatuous princess. Enough haters will buy that line.
    My hat off to QEII who drives a hard bargain. If Charles had any sense he’d cut off the cash too.

  31. zyconoclast

    I note no mention of who is picking up the bodyguard expenses for Megzit.

    State secret apparently. History buffs here would know the ransom price for a Prince (in today’s dollars) if the Mooslies ever got hold of Hazza.

    To paraphrase the camel trader

    And they are welcome to him..

  32. 132andBush

    Mark A,
    I hope it doesn’t come to this

  33. stackja

    Scott Morrison’s climate plan: Doubters warned to toe the line
    Senior members of the Prime Minister’s staff have warned climate change doubters within the federal government to toe the line as evidence emerges of Scott Morrison’s early call for action on climate change.

    Annika Smethurst, National political editor, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    January 19, 2020 12:00am

    Senior members of the Prime Minister’s staff have warned climate change ­doubters within the Morrison government to toe the line.

    It comes as new evidence emerges about Scott Morrison’s long-term acceptance of climate change despite accusations the summer bushfire disaster had prompted him to change his language.

    An analysis of Mr Morrison’s speeches over his 13-year parliamentary career reveal he has always accepted climate change science and previously called for Australia to take “sensible” actions.

    “The global issues are significant and if they are not ­addressed then we will not be able to save the Murray, we will not be able to stop the Reef from bleaching, and we will not be able to avoid the ­impacts of climate change,” he said in 2008.

  34. vlad

    Stephen King is copping a lot of flak today for having said he’ll vote in the Oscars for merit over diversity.

  35. Entropy

    If Charles had any sense….

    I think I might have spotted a flaw in your plan.

  36. Dr Faustus

    Harry’s opening gambit was “step down to junior royal status” and do the job for half a year.
    I think he has been comprehensively outplayed.

    A complete goose taking on the Firm with a ‘strategy’ developed in consultation with Sparkle’s US PR mob and her current crop of BFF’s.

    The US free supermarket magazine is disappearing from major stores. Irrelevance beckons: the Sussex’s will know they have arrived when George and Amal stop picking up.

  37. Caveman

    Harry to star in reboot of Home Alone.

  38. Entropy

    You know, looking at that clip makes me realise Gallipoli is actually a crap movie. Heavy handed politics, and a soundtrack that while memorable, just does not belong. That particular clip also reinforces the Carlton sets’ fear of the outback.

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    History buffs here would know the ransom price for a Prince (in today’s dollars) if the Mooslies ever got hold of Hazza.

    Eleanor of Aquitaine, acting as Regent for Richard 1 (Richard the Lionheart) almost bankrupted England to pay for the ransom of this, her beloved son and true heir the throne.

    I doubt if Her Maj Eliz 2 will have quite the same feelings for young Harry, although obviously the family could not let him drop and there would be a payout and all sorts of political concessions needed; so rest assured they will cough up personally for a solid level of security for him and the little Archie, with Meghan along for the ride sharing that. They are not short of a penny to forestall problems of this sort.

  40. Infidel Tiger

    Well played Her Majesty.

    Harry and Meghan Windsor can now make their own way in the world. In 5 years she will be married to some tech billionaire and he will have an F45 franchise in Hollywood where as a sideline he bones 70 year old Californian degenerates.

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You know, looking at that clip makes me realise Gallipoli is actually a crap movie. Heavy handed politics, and a soundtrack that while memorable, just does not belong

    Historical nonsense – the officer that ordered that charge to continue was Australian, not British as was the impression given in the film, the attack was to be coordinated with an attack by the New Zealanders at Chunuck Bair on the rear of the Turkish positions on Baby 700, and was nothing to do with the landings at Suvla Bay, and marker flags HAD been seen on the wire – a party of Light Horsemen HAD reached the Turkish trenches, resisted all demands to surrender, and fought to the last man.

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “The global issues are significant and if they are not ­addressed then we will not be able to save the Murray, we will not be able to stop the Reef from bleaching, and we will not be able to avoid the ­impacts of climate change,” he said in 2008.

    My take is that’s how he saw it in 2008 along with many others who have since changed their views away from the hysteria in the fact of reality. The ‘warming’ scenario may look rather different now in terms of immediacy (even the IPCC reports are more muted), but for the moment he’s very happy to keep it at that 2008 stance, until the smoke of the bushfires flows away.

    He is of course wimping out. A better leader would have responded more clearly to the international hysterics enjoying a good old burn up in vivid fire photos.

    Let’s see him tackle the green fuel-building madness and not pour any more money into renewables. Then he might be worth listening to; till then, all fireworks, smoke and mirrors.

  43. Dr Faustus

    Meghan will milk this in America – prince leaves all for his fatuous princess. Enough haters will buy that line.

    This is about the only tradable asset.
    No participation in Royal work means exchanging currency as a Royal for celebrity as an ‘ex-Royal’.

    Hazza might have some reservation about dumping on his family, but it’s very unlikely that SussexRoyal will be able to withstand the lure of the big bucks for a series of exclusive Tell All’s about how Prince Phillip’s casual comments about Nig-Nog’s traumatised the Duchess…

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmmm.

    *snicker* *cough* *straight face*

    *straight face* *snort*

    BAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAA!

  45. Knuckle Dragger

    HAHAHAHA BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

  46. Entropy

    Haha, James Weir in the Tele today. Started off about Megs and Huzza then morphed into a rant about the ultimate sea change: Byron Bay

    The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have pulled off a feat the rest of us regular folks can only dream of.
    They clocked off over Christmas, kicked back on some Canadian island and, as the six weeks came to an end, started pondering what it would be like to just stay on holiday forever — far away from work and family.
    Genius, huh? It’s crazy more people haven’t thought of it. But the thing is, we’ve all thought of it and most of us can’t do it because we’re poor. I know, I know – they’re working to be financially independent. Meghan’s applied for some casual shifts down at Just Jeans. Maybe she’ll even relaunch her bespoke bookbinding business and sell her wares on Etsy. (ICYMI, Meghan recently declared she was once a pro book binder. It remains confusing.)
    The Sussexes have become the most high-profile couple to throw in their professional lives, uproot and embark on a radical transition to a fabulously stress-free life. It’s the modern-day sea change.
    Every day I feel like I read a new article about a couple who has ditched their high-paying jobs and uprooted their family to sail the globe on a yacht. And they document it all on Instagram in hazy photographs where they’re dressed in chic nautical outfits and their hair has that effortless beachy look. My hairdresser is always crapping on about that “beachy look”. It’s perhaps the most unachievable of hairstyles – you drop 50 bucks on sea salt spray and blow-dry your hair to buggery and you just end up looking like you drowned at the beach and washed up on the rocks at low tide. People who look good after going to the beach shouldn’t be trusted.
    Anyway, Byron Bay has become the ultimate place for rich people to relocate after trading in their high-flying lives. Did any of you get up there over the holidays? I didn’t. Partly because my sensitive skin can’t tolerate that kind of tropical humidity but mainly because every influencer and rich mum worth her salt booked out the entire joint well in advance.
    It has become the most intolerable place on earth. Celebrities moved in and drove up the prices and now all those hippies are having to deal with lunatic Sydney mums breezing through town in kaftans trying to be one of them, just because they do yoga and once owned a Missy Higgins CD.
    You can only imagine the townsfolk’s irritation, which of course delights me. And now there’s no affordable property left to buy in Byron so people are having to look on the outskirts. I overheard some lady bragging they just bought in Tweed Heads – “but it’s basically Byron”. “It’s basically the Gold Coast,” I muttered.
    Once people holiday in Byron, it takes them months to snap out of it. They get swept up in the fantasy – the desire to pull a Meghan and Harry by throwing in their regular lives. They consider buying a farm up there on acres of rolling green hillside. They daydream about learning to feed the cattle and the chooks and imagine renovating the old dairy down the back to rent out on Airbnb.
    But that dream never eventuates. The holiday ends. And when it’s over, they can barely cope. They head back to their average lives with a gut full of Kombucha and try to keep the Byron Bay whimsy alive by really committing to the trend. It starts off with just a few linen outfits but next time you go to their house it’s covered in macramé and there’s a giant canvas print of a highland cow hanging on the wall.

    Having grown up in the seventies and eighties in the hinterland behind Byron, this is an extremely accurate portrayal.

  47. Top Ender

    Something to rev up your Sunday – boys and girls enjoy equally:

  48. calli

    An analysis of Mr Morrison’s speeches over his 13-year parliamentary career reveal he has always accepted climate change science and previously called for Australia to take “sensible” actions.

    Then I shall do my bit to kick him to the kerb come the next election.

    I would rather vote for a demonstrated liar than a two faced one.

  49. Entropy

    This is about the only tradable asset.
    No participation in Royal work means exchanging currency as a Royal for celebrity as an ‘ex-Royal’.

    It’s lik Huzza took no lesson from the Prince Andrew/Fergy experiment and history will repeat.

  50. MatrixTransform

    professor of pyrogeography

    HR: do you have any experience?
    ME: Have you heard of the Sahara Forest?

  51. calli

    They head back to their average lives with a gut full of Kombucha and try to keep the Byron Bay whimsy alive by really committing to the trend. It starts off with just a few linen outfits but next time you go to their house it’s covered in macramé and there’s a giant canvas print of a highland cow hanging on the wall.

    🤣

  52. Des Deskperson

    ‘You know, looking at that clip makes me realise Gallipoli is actually a crap movie. Heavy handed politics, and a soundtrack that while memorable, just does not belong’

    ‘Heavy-handed politics’? well, the scriptwriter was David Williamson. He’s about as heavy-handed as you can get.

  53. Entropy

    . They consider buying a farm up there on acres of rolling green hillside. They daydream about learning to feed the cattle and the chooks and imagine renovating the old dairy down the back to rent out on Airbnb.

    Seventies redux. I blame Felicity Kendall..

  54. areff

    Divorce is a curse. Shania Twain hasn’t had a big hit since splitting with Mutt Lange, AC/DC’s producer, and he’ll never again take home such pleasant work.

  55. SloMo telling his senior ministers to toe the climate dogma line? Didn’t the idiot just win the election over this very issue? Among others of course. He isn’t very bright.

  56. Porter

    Then I shall do my bit to kick him to the kerb come the next election.

    I would rather vote for a demonstrated liar than a two faced one.

    Never expected anything different from Morrison which is why I was so disappointed when he ended up leader. You have to remember that most pentecostals are screaming lefties who buy into every lefty fad with a passion.

  57. candy

    This thing about Harry and Meghan being a “young family” is silly. They are nearly 40.

    They did not appear to have too much affection towards Archie, or they felt he was too precious to be seen.
    Kate Middleton always glowingly happy showing her kids off and enjoying her job. People want to see those lovely little children, the children of a future King probably. When they don’t want to seem them time’s up for the Monarchy.

    I think the Queen read the public mood well.

  58. Infidel Tiger

    Harry should have married that blonde hottie.

    Poor bloke must have PTSD.

  59. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3296229, posted on January 18, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    Perhaps an important case. As the law currently stands, while superannuation funds may take into account ESG (environmental, social and governance) issues, such a strategy may only be followed once the trustees have taken care of its fiduciary responsibilities to their members. Last year the other half pointed this out to the super fund that gauging whether members wanted to invest in “nasty, evil” fossil fuels was not in their remit. Rather, the fund’s responsibility was to maximise a return on invest subject to the prudent management of the members’ funds. If this idiot were to win his case I could envisage the Judge advising him to move his superannuation nest egg to a fund that privileges “green” investments rather than demand fellow members forego their investment strategies for his benefit.

  60. calli

    You have to remember that most pentecostals are screaming lefties who buy into every lefty fad with a passion.

    Don’t know that many Pentecostals to comment. Sounded out my little Bible study group on the subject though – deniers to a woman. But then, we’re all old and wicked and have seen a thing or two.

  61. Geriatric Mayfly

    Harry should have married that blonde hottie.

    Never. Never. Wasn’t she a WHITE Zimbabwean?

  62. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Harry and Meghan lose their Royal titles, stop receiving public funds, pay back the costs of renovating Frogmore Cottage’

    This is brilliant. And everyone saw it coming except Wallis-Markle-BoltOns and her ponytailed PR team. I suspect even Harry knew it would end like this, but kept his trap shut in the hope of getting a lick on the giblets later.

    I thought they’d just lose the Duchy. This is even better. A direct heir to the Throne of England (albeit sixth) losing the title of Prince? Jesus Christ, that’s not far off Napoleon being exiled to the Falkland Islands.

    Starry-eyed Megsie, to her flunkies: ‘What’s this shit? I don’t even know what a Duke is. I married a PRINCE!!!’

    ‘the public are told they are no longer working members of the Royal Family and no longer formally represent the Queen.’

    The working members of the Royal Family bit, no-one will care about. As far as the public as concerned, none of the Royal Family work. The last bit, no longer formally representing the Queen is nothing less than formal and very public banishment.

    ‘They get to keep Duke and Duchess titles and Frogmore Cottage as their UK residence.’

    For all intents and purposes they’re not royals any more. This now-meaningless bit of frippery, particularly without the very large money tap that is the Duchy of Cornwall, now appears to be the tiny bone Er Maj threw them.

    A Duke without a Duchy. Sure. Everyone will take you really seriously.

    And then the woman who served in WWII and ruled for six decades afterwards, and is still ruling, turned the screws again.

    ‘You want Frogmore do you? For when you come back, in economy class via Turkmenistan? No worries. It’s yours. But only if you personally pay back the cost of those fucked up renos, the ideas for which you got from reality TV – Royal Cottages do NOT have feature walls, young Markle! – AND here are the upkeep costs, and the debt associated with all that stuff.’

    Tell you what, the only reason they got as much as they did – which, frankly is fuck all – is because the Megster had the foresight to drop a pup early in the piece.

    How this xuntstruck ranga and his incredibly vacuous C grade wife thought this would end any other way escapes me. Happy fucking days. Thumbs up Lizzie II.

  63. Roger

    SloMo telling his senior ministers to toe the climate dogma line

    Pass me my baseball bat.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Not laugh out loud funny, but the James Weir article was very amusing.
    Nice segue.
    Ginger and Megs chucking it all in vis-a-vis the Byron hipoie syndrome.

  65. lotocoti

    Harry should have married that blonde hottie.

    Or perhaps someone a little more exotic* than the mundane Sparkles.
    *Warning: includes the French in Indo-China.

  66. Roger

    Seems GingerMegs won’t be “collaborating” [sic] with the Queen in their new lives as they’d hoped.

    Wise move, your Majesty.

  67. The Barking Toad

    Beautiful words Knuckle…….

    How this xuntstruck ranga and his incredibly vacuous C grade wife thought this would end any other way escapes me. Happy fucking days. Thumbs up Lizzie II.

  68. Gab

    Poor Mr Harry & Wallis Markle, so much money they don’t know what to do with themselves.

  69. Arky

    Radiator repair and reason for drilling 198 oversized holes in new bottom tank top plate will become evident in part two.
    Part two will feature a field trip to Airport West.

  70. The Barking Toad

    ScoMo……..a fence sitting softcock

    However, I will give him credit for fucking off the Labor reject socialist Turnbull

  71. stackja

    Des Deskperson
    #3296599, posted on January 19, 2020 at 11:29 am
    ‘You know, looking at that clip makes me realise Gallipoli is actually a crap movie. Heavy handed politics, and a soundtrack that while memorable, just does not belong’

    ‘Heavy-handed politics’? well, the scriptwriter was David Williamson. He’s about as heavy-handed as you can get.

    Rupert supposedly wanted the Australian Nek commander rebadged as Pom.

  72. Fair shake of the sauce

    So MM has kissed her Prince and turned him into a frog. This Shrek story just gets better by the day.

  73. Fisky

    Wall Street Journal admits, Trump’s trade war hardly put a dent in the US economy, the effects on prices were minimal, and virtually none of the costs that did occur were borne by US consumers, i.e. the exact opposite of what was predicted by “economists”.

    This is yet another colossal failure of forecasting by
    the economics profession and demonstrates once again why that discipline should be abandoned entirely.

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/01/12/the-wall-street-journal-admits-u-s-economy-sailed-through-trade-war-with-barely-a-scratch/

  74. The Barking Toad

    And thanks TE for the Shania clip – hot

  75. stackja

    Cost of IVF treatment slashed for thousands of women in NSW
    The cost of IVF treatment has been significantly reduced from today. The state government has not put a cap on how many rounds of IVF it will subsidise but with the lower cost, there are more chances of success if women don’t fall pregnant in the first round.

    Jack Morphet, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    January 19, 2020 6:00am

    The cost of conceiving a baby through IVF will be slashed for thousands of NSW women from today.

    A round of IVF will cost a maximum of $1000 at the publicly supported clinics based at Westmead Hospital, Royal Prince Alfred Hospital and Randwick’s Royal Hospital for Women.

    One round of IVF typically leaves women out of pocket by between $2000 and $6000, but the cost will now be significantly reduced.

    The state government has not put a cap on how many rounds of IVF it will subsidise per patient, which doctors will instead determine based on the likely success of each consecutive attempt.

    Each round of IVF includes egg collection and one fertilised embryo transferred into a woman’s uterus. Other embryos from the egg collection can be frozen and stored for later use, at an additional cost to the patient.

    It comes six months after the city’s leading gynaecologists began thrashing out how to best spend $42 million promised by the Berejiklian government during the state election to make IVF more affordable.

    Doctors had considered completely waiving the cost of IVF, but decided the low-cost model offered the greatest good for the greatest number.

    The cut-price treatments will be offered to 6000 women in the next three-and-a-half years, and will not be subject to means testing or an income test in the same way patients aren’t turned away from public hospitals based on their bank balances.

  76. struth

    ScoMo……..a fence sitting softcock

    However, I will give him credit for fucking off the Labor reject socialist Turnbull

    He had SFA to do with it, just the wets couldn’t bring themselves to put in a conservative [there weren’t any, anyway], and Malcom wouldn’t vacate his seat until he got another UN man, in other words, another traitor.

  77. Mark A

    Arky
    #3296621, posted on January 19, 2020 at 11:51 am

    Part two will feature a field trip to Airport West.

    I take it it’s to pick up parts or something?
    No sane man will visit that shytehole for any other reason.

  78. lotocoti

    Looks like the battyman’s replacement Oirish are fitting right in.

  79. struth

    This is yet another colossal failure of forecasting by
    the economics profession and demonstrates once again why that discipline should be abandoned entirely.

    When Steve Kates is a lone voice in the woods, it proves economics is the Left trying to pass off socialism as a science.

  80. mizaris

    AnAl in this morning’s WA Sunday Slime – doesn’t know why his marriage broke up. I’m sure that most of Australia could tell him that if your nickname is Mr Rub’n’tug and you’ve been caught visiting brothels, it might be a hint. AnAl is a disgusting lar…again.

  81. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Granville Rail Disaster just finished on History,

    Rockdoctor, I didn’t see it. But I hope it laid out the political story behind it.

    1) The swinging seats out Penrith way and the Blue Mountains and so the need for the government of the day to ensure that the trains ran on time. Which is to say that the on-time running was impossible without the train speeding.
    2) The problem with 46 class locomotives having a preponderance to jump the tracks at speed.
    3) Lack of maintenance of the line.
    4) The DMR, having built the bridge over the line, discovering that it was too low – 1 metre – for the road, so adding additional concrete, which dramatically increased the weight. As well, it had no intermediate support piers.

    There was a great docu-drama a number of years ago starring Peter O’Brien as the investigator in the accident. Well worth a view.

  82. Knuckle Dragger

    Ahhhh.

    Vis-à-vis the egg debate. If there was an easier way to peel boiled eggs I’d chow down on those bastards all day. With white pepper.

    Glorious, organic or not.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    Battery eggs are the go.

    I find they give me more power through the day.

  84. Rex Mango

    TE, not impressed by your Shania Twain clip:

  85. Rex Mango

    Woolworths caged eggs around $3.20 a dozen the go. Never buy free range.

  86. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3296644, posted on January 19, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    If there was an easier way to peel boiled eggs

    There are, this is only one.
    I use the shake them in a jar with water method.

  87. Rex Mango

    The way to peel boiled eggs is like Robert De Niro in Angel Heart:

  88. Roger

    If there was an easier way to peel boiled eggs I’d chow down on those bastards all day.

    Put boiled egg sideways on benchtop with enough force to crack the shell (but not squash the egg!).

    Roll egg across benchtop applying the same amount of pressure.

    Shell should come apart in two halves.

    Eat boiled egg.

  89. Knuckle Dragger

    The Hun:

    ‘The couple’s staff at Frogmore Cottage have been redeployed’

    Oh God, this is good.

  90. Entropy

    I buy cage eggs because:
    *Price
    *I am very familiar with chook behaviour. It’s called the pecking order for a reason.
    *I prefer to know what my egg provider ate. Chooks are opportunistic cannibals.
    The cage keeps all the above to manageable levels.

  91. struth

    eggs
    Hot water in a mug , egg into cup, a minute and a half in the microwave and poached egg.
    Chuck egg on toast……………….half runny half solid yoke.

    Eat while slurping down Nescafe gold with full cream milk and sugar and typing Good Moaning.

  92. Arky

    rickw
    #3296482, posted on January 19, 2020 at 8:23 am
    Yesterday I found the contents of some poor buggers wallet strewn all over the footpath including credit card, medicare card etc. picked up all I could find and took it to the local police station.

    First time I had been inside. Wall to wall virtue signalling on the walls. Handed over the contents, got the distinct impression they didn’t give a shit and that the contents would be held for the minimum time and then disposed of.

    ..
    We must get over this quaint old English idea that the police are your friends / here to help / a bulwark between the ordinary people and the criminal.
    This is no longer the case, if it ever was.
    You may have been brought up to see them as the friendly face of authority and act accordingly.
    Whereas when they encounter you the process that is going through their brain is:
    1. Can I charge this individual with something?
    2. How do I get out of this inconvenience as quickly as possible so I can charge someone else?
    And that’s the consciencious ones.

  93. min

    I have not read Douglas Murray’s The Madness of Crowds” but have listened to interview with John Anderson. He speaks about forgiveness and how it is the one thing that discriminates Christianity from other religions .
    When talking about forgiveness, from RET, CBT perspective , I linked it with forgetting . Humans are a bit like elephants do not forget , but forgiving means giving up the emotion that goes with it . That is why climate alarmists , lefties cannot forgive , they are all too bloody angry .
    So when someone has done wrong according to your rules how do you feel.?
    People do have erroneous beliefs such as others should live by my rules and if they do not they should be damned, and punished. Next time the conversation is on climate change alarmism ask the question and hear what comes out of their mouths.

  94. Rex Mango

    Don’t know the recipe, as Mum is the guru, but coddled eggs are fantastic. Basically par boiled egg and toast in a cup. Am thinking butter involved too.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    Disclaimer:

    I have been in love with Shania Twain for 20 years.

    Not lust. Love. The love that births sonnets, launches a thousand ships and starts wars.

    The love that keeps you up at night*. Don’t care if she can cook.

    I would die for that woman**.

    If I were in the mannequin business I would create one in her image, and call it ‘The Shania’.

    *Phrasing. Naturally.
    **I realise this is an easy claim to make, as Shania Doesn’t know who I am, where I live or what my number is

  96. Arky

    Chooks are opportunistic cannibals.

    ..
    Surely this gives the meat an extra chickeny flavoursome flavour?
    And the eggs eggsactly the correct nutrients required?

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    For clarity:

    Wendy James = lust. Would wreck that chick.
    Shania = love. Tender wrecking would ensue.

  98. P

    In the three years since the coup against Abbott, the new leader stubbornly refused to treat the wound he had inflicted. He got away with it thanks to a largely supine media content (right up to this weekend) to damn Abbott as the “wrecker”. Well, if they think he’s an embittered ex-, wait’ll they see the new one.
    Nothing in Malcolm Turnbull’s four decades in public life suggests a man minded to move gracefully on. He caused the split, he deepened the split, and his ego will be unable to resist widening it.

    The Spiller Spilled by Mark Steyn – August 25, 2018

  99. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘opportunistic cannibals’

    Yes. The feathery bastards should not be underestimated, especially black chooks.

    Black chooks will sneak up on you and steal your wallet given half a chance..

  100. Rex Mango

    Worst, or most useless sort of police are the ones on horses. They do look good, but can’t do much at all. Was witness to two girls on horses trying to apprehend a Lebanese individual who had just punched out a gay dude. Beyond a farce, particularly as the crowd gathered and his women folk wearing veils appeared.

  101. Mark A

    Did numbers say there was no risk of election fraud in the US?

  102. Arky

    If there was an easier way to peel boiled eggs I’d chow down on those bastards all day.

    ..
    Peeling ease of the boiled egg depends on two things:
    (i) The age of the egg.
    (ii) The temperature difference applied to the egg during cooking.
    In order to improve peelability, make sure the egg goes into a pot which is already at a roiling vigorous boil.
    And then after the allotted time, plunge the cooked egg straight into cold water.
    An easily peeled egg results.

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NationalIndigenous culture

    Bruce Pascoe says Aboriginality queries an attempt to discredit Dark Emu
    Jewel Topsfield
    By Jewel Topsfield
    January 19, 2020 — 12.00am

    1 hour ago

    Author and historian Bruce Pascoe says he believes attempts to discredit his award-winning book Dark Emu are at the heart of allegations he is not Aboriginal.

    Professor Pascoe was fighting bushfires in Mallacoota when he learned the Australian Federal Police was assessing a complaint that he had benefited financially from incorrectly claiming to be an Aborigine.
    Bruce Pascoe at his property in Gipsy Point last week.

    “It was terribly hurtful of course but … to tell you the truth I couldn’t concentrate on it, we were in a very dangerous situation here,” he told The Sunday Age.

    “Yep, I think it comes down to (an attempt to discredit the book). I think there are a few people determined to make it an issue.”

    Dark Emu draws on accounts from European explorers to argue that history has whitewashed the fact Indigenous Australians had sophisticated agricultural practices prior to European settlement.

    “The book has been incredibly successful and read by thousands of Australians and the support for it has been incredible,” Professor Pascoe says.

    He is unsure why people would seek to discredit it, but says “certainly some people are uncomfortable about looking at Aboriginal people in a different light”.

    “Some people are so fixated with Aboriginal incapacity that any thought of a sophisticated Aboriginal civilisation undermines the validity of the colony itself.”

    Dark Emu calls for a reconsideration of the hunter-gatherer label for pre-colonial Aborigines and pushes for a return to more sustainable Indigenous land management methods.

    The complaint, first published in The Australian, was referred to the AFP after Indigenous businesswoman and lawyer Josephine Cashman wrote to Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton accusing Professor Pascoe of “dishonesty offences”.

    She disputes Professor Pascoe’s Aboriginal heritage and says he has benefited financially from government grants, university appointments and literary prizes awarded to Aboriginal people.

    Professor Pascoe said he had not sought legal advice, although this might change if he was contacted by the AFP.

    “I didn’t worry too much when I did start thinking about it, because I know who I am and I know who my family is and I know my place in the community and that place is very, very important to me and my extended family because we are all in it together.”

    Professor Pascoe, 72, grew up unaware of any Indigenous heritage and did not identify as Aboriginal until he was 32.

    He began researching his heritage after a conversation with his uncle.

    Professor Pascoe has said he found Indigenous ancestors from both sides of his family, tracing from Tasmania, the Yuin people from the south coast of NSW and the Boonwurrung (commonly written as Bunurong) people.

    The widely accepted definition of Indigenous heritage in Australia comprises three parts: self-identification, evidence of descent and community recognition.

    Yuin elder, Pastor Ossie Cruse, questioned why Professor Pascoe’s Aboriginality was being disputed when he was accepted by his community.

    “It does concern me because I don’t think anybody needs that, what’s the gain in it, particularly a person who has really had a hard life and found out they were of Aboriginal descent,” Pastor Cruse told The Sunday Age.

    Sydney Morning Herald.

  104. struth

    The freedom of the west comes from the individual choice Christianity offers, in my opinion.

    It gives you a moral code to live by which is not punished or rewarded until after death.
    Your life is basically a test to see if you are fit for the pearly gates.
    It’s individualistic and performance based.
    It’s individualism over collectivism.
    You are judged not by the colour of your skin, but by the content of your character.

  105. If an uneducated government Minister picked up an economics text and followed the principles, they’d be labelled as a “right wing extremist”, even with counter cyclical macro policies and dubious merit goods.

    You have to remember that most economists are employed…by government. The ones that rise to the top are good at getting PS promotions. They’re not necessarily good economists. The rot also set in with glorifying their positions with “Schools of Government” nonsense in universities.

    Trump’s tariffs were small and saw no significant change in the level of net protectionism. His income tax cuts and regulation cuts are so much more significant.

    It was not like this struth a while back. U. Syd. for example has had its Econ. Dept. totally captured by the left.

    Economic Invincibility has a good video now on how Trump is actually a progressive, BTW. The bills he supported are popular. I have reservations about the AA stuff regarding women. The left don’t like him because he’s not one of them anymore and he “robbed” Clinton of something she was “entitled” to.

  106. struth

    You are judged not by the colour of your skin, but by the content of your character.

    It’s individualistic and performance based.

    That’s why it is universally hated by the left.

  107. Arky

    They’re not necessarily good economists.

    ..
    No such thing.
    That’s like saying “good libertarian”.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comment in moderation – seems Bruce Pascoe is claiming that questioning his “Aboriginality” is an attempt to discredit “Dark Emu.” I thought “Dark Emu” was already filed and receipted for the rubbish it was?

  109. Arky

    After Trump’s tariff palooza of the last two years, shouldn’t the US economy be a smoking wreck?
    Wasn’t that what libertarians and economists promised?
    Exactly why did we spend the last forty years obsessed by “free trade” at the expense of all else?
    Where’s the bloody apologies from these bow tie, hat- spinner wearing frauds?

  110. Knuckle Dragger

    The NT News, this Territory’s journal of record is notorious for its front pages and the brilliance of its subbies in headline writing. For those unaware, their front pages routinely feature big saltwater crocs, UFOs, idiots on top of croc traps in rivers, idiots surrounded by crocs being rescued from Cahill’s Crossing near Oenpelli and various government failings.

    The other day its front page was all black, with white lettering. No pics. It was an entreaty from the paper to the Fed Govt to stop mucking about and embrace the concept that humans cause climate change, and to spend the vast sums required to change the weather. I can’t link the actual page from here, with apologies.

    It attracted such a storm of complaints from its readership that yesterday it posted this in response:

    ‘IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX. IT’S A HOAX
    We think we may have said too much already here. Screw it; IT”S A HOAX!’

    Well played, you magnificent bastards.

  111. struth

    Comment in moderation – seems Bruce Pascoe is claiming that questioning his “Aboriginality” is an attempt to discredit “Dark Emu.” I thought “Dark Emu” was already filed and receipted for the rubbish it was?

    That rubbish will still be shoved down every school kids throat in this country, and the only respite they’ll get from it is when they are watching the rabbit proof fence, taught fire lighting, or being taught the world is about to end, unless we go UN led Global socialist.

  112. “The income tax cuts and regulation repeals are the main game. The tariff changes were actually very small”

    Which has been repeated over and over and over again.

    An increase in tariffs is never going to create jobs more than increasing any other tax. All that may happen is trade diversion.

  113. Tel

    If there was an easier way to peel boiled eggs I’d chow down on those bastards all day.

    There’s a very quick way: first fry some bacon, then crack the egg into the pan and fry the egg in fat. Throw away the shell and the peel.

    It’s so fast and easy, and tastes great!!

  114. jo

    Knuckles, I’ll ask my sister to see if she knows you. They used to be regular passing aquaintance. Holidayed in the same place.

  115. Arky

    “The income tax cuts and regulation repeals are the main game.

    ..
    Exactly.
    Bloody exactly.
    So explain to me why you fucking numpty morons spent forty years pushing free trade at the expense of all else?
    To the point where the common man now thinks that “free trade” and “the right” are synonymous.
    Whereas for the past 150 years until 1980 in was the left that consistently raised taxes while lowering tariffs and the right who would lower taxes and raise tariffs?
    You have destroyed the manufacturing base, breed a species of crony corporation that has emeshed itself in politics and emboldened a leftist movement that was all but dead after the end of the Soviet Union.
    Idiots.

  116. Entropy

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3296665, posted on January 19, 2020 at 12:38 pm
    For clarity:

    Wendy James = lust. Would wreck that chick.
    Shania = love. Tender wrecking would ensue

    Seen that ANNA movie yet, KD.

    iTunes rental or Amazon Prime.


    http://youtube.com/Z6yTXsCauIc

  117. struth

    From what I heard they’re response was actually still arrogant [nt news]
    Go woke go broke.

    Territorians aren’t buying their response in Alice Springs anyway.

  118. Infidel Tiger

    So explain to me why you fucking numpty morons spent forty years pushing free trade at the expense of all else?
    To the point where the common man now thinks that “free trade” and “the right” are synonymous.
    Whereas for the past 150 years until 1980 in was the left that consistently raised taxes while lowering tariffs and the right who would lower taxes and raise tariffs?
    You have destroyed the manufacturing base, breed a species of crony corporation that has emeshed itself in politics and emboldened a leftist movement that was all but dead after the end of the Soviet Union.
    Idiots.

    Spot on.

  119. Entropy

    The problem with microeconomics is it seems to think what it is looking at is the only market.

  120. Boambee John

    Chooks are opportunistic cannibals.

    Spent time in the UK in the 1980s.

    The chooks tasted fishy. Found out that they were fed fish meal.

  121. min

    Re Pascoe I thought he was being investigated for fraud as he got money for an indigenous competition.

  122. Arky

    Republicans were not always idiots:
    ..

    With high revenue held over from wartime taxes, the federal government had collected more than it spent since 1866; by 1882 the surplus reached $145 million.[147] Opinions varied on how to balance the budget; the Democrats wished to lower tariffs, in order to reduce revenues and the cost of imported goods, while Republicans believed that high tariffs ensured high wages in manufacturing and mining.

  123. Eisenhower wanted to cut tariffs and cut WWII income tax rates, but his priority was a balanced budget.

    Kennedy, who is now on the right compared to current year leftists, implemented significant income tax and tariff cuts. The US boomed until the financial strain of the Numbers War was too much under Johnson.

    Cutting tariffs does not destroy the manufacturing base. You should be raging about electricity prices.

  124. Tariffs and other assorted protectionism lowers wages in Australian mining, the sector faces a negative “effective rate of assistance”.

  125. 1735099

    I can’t link the actual page from here, with apologies.

    I’ll have a crack.

  126. Mark A

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3296702, posted on January 19, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Cutting tariffs does not destroy the manufacturing base. You should be raging about electricity prices.

    We lost our manufacturing 20 years ago and the process began with Whitlam I remember it well, suddenly you could buy electrical goods at half the previous price.

    Electricity prices at high level is a recent phenomenon.

  127. Arky

    Every Republican Presidential administration up until Reagan explicitly wanted a system of tariffs and a lowering of taxes. Most introduced legislation to do so. Reagan also was pro using tariffs but was rolled by Gingrich.
    Every democrat administration had a platform of reducing tariffs.

  128. Arky

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3296705, posted on January 19, 2020 at 1:14 pmTariffs and other assorted protectionism lowers wages in Australian mining, the sector faces a negative “effective rate of assistance”.

    ..
    See?
    Obsessed.
    IT DOESN’T BLOODY WORK.

  129. struth

    An increase in tariffs is never going to create jobs more than increasing any other tax. All that may happen is trade diversion.

    You have to make things , nations can’t serve each other coffee forever.
    If you want to put barriers in the way of me selling my shit into your country, I’ll put barriers up too.
    Take the barriers down and we’ll compete fairly.
    All Tump did was demand a level playing field.
    He believes in capitalism and free and FAIR markets, low taxation and minimal regulation.
    Jeeeeeesus, if we had that, we could out produce China, population is not the main facto in economics.
    Freedom is.

    We are losing 170 shops, they declared just last week including Harris Scarfs, Jeans West, and many big names.
    Thanks Sco Mo and Fliedeggberger……………………………
    That should help you stay in good with the UN socialists.

    The last one to leave should turn the lights out………………….however they’re leaving because they couldn’t afford to turn them on in the first place.

  130. 1735099

    It’s not a bad effort – way above the NT News regular fare for which a mental age of ten, and reading age of seven is all that is necessary.

    NT NEWS EDITORIAL, NT News
    January 15, 2020
    OPINION
    The time has come for a measured discussion on climate change in the wake of Australia’s bushfire crisis.
    EVERY Australian – and millions around the world – have been touched by the unfolding bushfire crisis.
    Thousands of people have lost their homes, several have lost their lives and millions of animals have perished.
    It is an ecological disaster of mammoth proportions and it will take months – even years – to rebuild parts of Australia that have been impacted.
    While many of those directly affected by the fires are focused solely on rebuilding their homes and their lives, it has unfortunately led to an unhealthy and vicious debate about the impacts of climate change.
    No one can dispute the science that tells us climate change is real but there are many who still don’t believe it – and, just like those who do believe it, they are entitled to think that way.
    But amid all the posturing and outrage about the lack of action from our leaders on the issue of climate change, we are yet to see some real and affordable solutions.
    One of the major concerns of climate change sceptics is the risk that Australia throws billions of dollars at a problem that doesn’t exist.
    Of course it’s a risk – but it’s a bigger risk to do nothing.
    Our future generations, at the very least, deserve our country to unite as one on the issue of climate change and come up with a plan for the future.
    Letting the debate play out on social media sites such as Twitter and Facebook is democratically unhealthy.
    The experts and politicians need to come together and work out what Australia can do to address climate change but, at the same time, continue to build our economy.
    We can and must do both.
    Time to act. Even the conservatives warned us a generation ago.
    Australia is the lucky country and always will be. We are blessed to live in the greatest country on Earth.
    As a world leader, now is the time for Australia to properly address the issue of climate change. No one wants to see a widespread crisis like this ever again.

    We now have no choice but to talk in depth about climate change and its threat.

    This is Australia’s moment.

  131. 8th Dan

    Did numbers say there was no risk of election fraud in the US?

    Not that I recall.

  132. struth

    It’s upped it’s readers age to 13.

    Very awkward those teenage years, you think you know everything but alas……………..

  133. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob.

    One. That is the editorial accompanying the front page that I spoke of, not the front page.

    Two. The front page and the editorial convey an identical sentiment.

    Three. If you had read the earlier comment, you would have realised at IT WAS A HOAX, as stated by the same editorial staff that wrote that piece.

    One, two, three. ‘Duuuuuhhhhhhhhh.’

    They’re notorious for it.

  134. Johno

    You are such a dumb shit Sniffy.

  135. Entropy

    Boambee John
    #3296697, posted on January 19, 2020 at 1:10 pm
    Chooks are opportunistic cannibals.

    Spent time in the UK in the 1980s.

    The chooks tasted fishy. Found out that they were fed fish meal

    So there is a reason chicken tastes like chicken?

  136. 8th Dan

    Comment in moderation – seems Bruce Pascoe is claiming

    I watched Charlie’s Country this morning. It was very good. No doubt, you’d be among the 92% of fans who liked it.

  137. Arky

    That while providing revenue for the
    support of the general Government by
    duties upon imports, sound policy re-
    quires such an adjustment of these
    imports as may encourage the develop-
    ment of the industrial interests of the
    whole country; and we commend the
    policy of national exchanges, which’
    secures to the workingmen liberal wages,
    to agriculture remunerating prices,
    to mechanics and manufacturers an
    adequate reward for their skill, labor
    and enterprise, and to the nation com-
    mercial prosperity and independence.

    If I have any recommen-
    dation to make it will be that every
    man who is called upon to serve the
    people in a representative capacity
    should study the whole subject thor-
    oughly, as I intend to do myself,
    looking to the varied interests of the
    common country, so that when the time
    for action arrives to advocate that
    Protection may be extended to the coal
    and iron of Pennsylvania, the corn of
    Illinois and the reapers of Chicago.
    -Abraham Lincoln.

  138. Leo G

    No one can dispute the science that tells us climate change is real …

    Truisms are seldom true. If it can’t be disputed, it’s not science.

  139. Rex Mango

    8 the Dandruff, with your personal hygiene problems, did you get called Lamington at Sydney Uni?

  140. Mark A

    8th Dan
    #3296719, posted on January 19, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Did numbers say there was no risk of election fraud in the US?

    Not that I recall.

    What you recall or not is mostly immaterial, but to indulge you, he even gloated about the commission that was set up to investigate electoral fraud being shut down after allegedly found no fraud.
    Now we know otherwise.

  141. Tel

    Real men cook with fire … not water.

  142. Knuckle Dragger

    Hints for Mr Literal the ex-spack teacher:

    ‘EVERY Australian – and millions around the world – have been touched by the unfolding bushfire crisis.’

    Nope.

    ‘It is an ecological disaster of mammoth proportions’

    Nope.

    ‘Letting the debate play out on social media sites such as Twitter and Facebook is democratically unhealthy.’

    Haha. Nope.

    ‘As a world leader’

    If you hadn’t worked this out by now, nope.

  143. struth

    Three. If you had read the earlier comment, you would have realised at IT WAS A HOAX, as stated by the same editorial staff that wrote that piece.

    I reckon the got hammered about it and called it a hoax.

    Most journalists for them are young communists fresh from the Eastern States Uni’s, who probably pushed for that page and got a hiding from reality.
    Either way, it’s embarrassing for Sniffy, who thinks the majority, the vast majority, of Australians who think the same way as cats here, don’t exist.
    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

  144. Chris

    Did anyone see the Margaret Court bit on the ABC last night? I saw it was on, muted, in the mess. Got the feeling it was not actually attacking her on behalf of the toilet-loitering set, which would be quite a change. Just wondering if monts or anyone can tell me what to think about that.

  145. Rex Mango

    Numbers, your mate Mark Dapin on ABC right now, talking about a certain war in SE Asia you may be interested in.

  146. Rex Mango

    Mark Dapin reckons the most gay action was at Vung Tau and amongst officers. Numbers, you agree?

  147. 1735099

    Three. If you had read the earlier comment, you would have realised at IT WAS A HOAX, as stated by the same editorial staff that wrote that piece.

    They wrote that in response to the bogans who responded on social media.
    Their response was also on social media.

    Just one of the many responses –

    F**K YOU NT NEWS AND YOUR POINTS OF VIEW
    Brett Saad: F**k your bullshit climate change c**t!!! … love the NT news because they were a no bullshit paper but f**k your climate change … F**k your climate change c**t … F**ck the greens f**k the liberals f**k every c**t in a big city that got something to say you don’t know sh**t shut the f**k up and let the people from bush look after the bush and our houses animals bush our farms and our communities and you c**ts can get f**ked!!!!

    Reads a bit like Catallaxy….

  148. 8th Dan

    Now we know otherwise.

    Yeah? nah … not without a link.

    So, still … not that I recall.

  149. MatrixTransform

    Exactly.
    Bloody exactly.
    ….
    Idiots.

    My thoughts exactly

    I did a biz unit while doing some rmit post-grad. full of free trade agreements are bad ad nauseum

    Tell me again how it’s good that I can’t sell my software skills in the UK?

  150. Bar Beach Swimmer

    struth
    #3296673, posted on January 19, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    +1

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    Real men cook with fire … not water.

    Geeks cook with microwave radiation. 😀

  152. struth

    NT News circulation will be down next week.
    Not a good move, Hoax or not, due to the absolute anger in Australia by those who have no voice, in the Climate Change hysteria, they’ll regret that.
    If they can survive 12 months, half the population of Darwin will have changed and all will be forgotten.

  153. Mark A

    8th Dan
    #3296745, posted on January 19, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    Now we know otherwise.

    Yeah? nah … not without a link.

    YOU bloody stupid little canut, you don’t read but shoot straight out of the holster, hitting your feet.
    Now see what you did?
    I never swear unless I hit my thumb with a hammer.
    F.. off and stay there with your equally useless pathetic puppet master.

  154. MatrixTransform

    It’s not a bad effort – way above …

    even a scientifical Numpty like you should be able to find the global warming

  155. struth

    Reads a bit like Catallaxy….

    Fuck orf

  156. Rex Mango

    Mark Dapin on ABC RN just through ultimate curve ball on the topic of gay folk in the South East Asian war. He related the story of some Aussie bloke who went an a date with an American guy, who then got roped by his two mates. Moral of the story was that the ban on being gay meant he couldn’t report the rope. Ergo evil heteronormativity made this bloke’s time over there so much worse.

  157. 1735099

    Either way, it’s embarrassing for Sniffy, who thinks the majority, the vast majority, of Australians who think the same way as cats here, don’t exist.

    The opposite is in fact the case.
    Every survey/poll indicates that.
    Catallaxy is a sewer of extreme opinion.

  158. struth

    Geeks cook with microwave radiation.

    I even have a Microwave in the Kenworth.
    You need it these days as the roadhouses Australia wide serve only Indian Slop.

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    The NT News do this all the time, you colossal peanut.

    Every once in a while they get sick of putting up front pages about dildos, and they do this sort of thing to get a reaction.

    In their online version, they have a dedicated section where they reproduce the hate mail they get sent.

    And it sucks in the two-heads in the rural areas (see the comment you posted), and is embraced by the southern city softies who think the paper’s finally going mainstream. On this occasion, they attracted responses of both these types, let it run for a few days and then said it was a HOAX.

    This is not Cairns or Port Stephens or Esperance. People have very strong views on this nonsense, got wound up by the hoax and were sucked in. Like I said, they do it all the time.

    The key word here, Mr Jump-on-the-bandwagon-locked-and-loaded-without-working-out-what-its-really-about-on-so-many-things-including-this-one, is HOAX.

  160. struth

    Don’t quote the ABC here, you drop kick, ya links don’t work anyway.

  161. Arky

    Tariffs

    Another contentious financial issue at the time was the protective tariff. These tariffs had been implemented as a temporary measure during the civil war to protect American industrial interests but remained in place after the war.[125] While it had not been a central point in his campaign, Cleveland’s opinion on the tariff was that of most Democrats: that the tariff ought to be reduced.[126] Republicans generally favored a high tariff to protect American industries.[126] American tariffs had been high since the Civil War, and by the 1880s the tariff brought in so much revenue that the government was running a surplus.[127]

    In 1886, a bill to reduce the tariff was narrowly defeated in the House.[128] The tariff issue was emphasized in the Congressional elections that year, and the forces of protectionism increased their numbers in the Congress, but Cleveland continued to advocate tariff reform.[129] As the surplus grew, Cleveland and the reformers called for a tariff for revenue only.[130] His message to Congress in 1887 (quoted at right) highlighted the injustice of taking more money from the people than the government needed to pay its operating expenses.[131] Republicans, as well as protectionist northern Democrats like Samuel J. Randall, believed that American industries would fail without high tariffs, and they continued to fight reform efforts.[132] Roger Q. Mills, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, proposed a bill to reduce the tariff from about 47% to about 40%.[133] After significant exertions by Cleveland and his allies, the bill passed the House.[133] The Republican Senate failed to come to agreement with the Democratic House, and the bill died in the conference committee. Dispute over the tariff persisted into the 1888 presidential election.

  162. Rex Mango

    Another bloke relating the story of getting drunk and playing hide and seek with his mates (been drunk plenty of times and never done this), near the beach. Before he knew it, he was rolling in the waves with his mate. Eerily similar to a scene with Deborah Kerr and Burt Lancaster in From Here to Eternity.

  163. Some History

    Catallaxy is a sewer of extreme opinion.

    That’s a bit extreme, Ralph.

  164. Tel

    Geeks cook with microwave radiation. 😀

    I’ll give you a pass … but only if you are using microwave radiation on an open hob.

  165. Rex Mango

    Arky, what you think this is, like an economics blog?

  166. Arky

    Continuing our study of Republican tariff policies,
    From Lincoln and Chester A. Arthur, now we move on to McKinley:
    ..
    McKinley had built his reputation in Congress on high tariffs, promising protection for American business and well-paid American factory workers. With the Republicans in control of Congress, Ways and Means chairman Dingley introduced the Dingley Act which would raise rates on wool, sugar, and luxury goods. McKinley supported it and it became law.[171]

  167. MatrixTransform

    Climate change survey shows Australians want action on emissions, but are divided on nuclear

    I wonder of they surveyed engineers, schientists, geolgists etc … or is the survey confined to retards only

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – It’d be appreciated if you link directly, not use goolagproxy links. So we can know more easily where we’ll end up. The internetty thing is not without its risks.

    Furthermore Goolag has very well identified partisan ideology. So that’s a second reason why I’m reluctant to follow such links.

  169. 8th Dan

    Now see what you did?

    Sure … still didn’t provide a link.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    Sorry struth, but it was a hoax from the get go.

    A few years back when the Stuart Highway established a 130kph speed limit instead of no speed limit, to the justified horror of just about everyone up here the NT News ran another hoax piece advocating that the limit be lowered to 80kph from Batchelor to Alice, 1500km away. For the wildlife this time, not the planet.

    Same responses. Same result.

  171. struth

    Well, watch their circulation drop.
    This wasn’t the subject to be hoaxing about.

    Yes they got a few drop kick texts, but they also got others more clued up to the world writing in quite eloquently explaining their disgust.
    But it will be the average Joe who just sees the headline and make the conscious decision not to buy it anymore to see the apology, er sorry, the “it’s a hoax” cry.

    I remember well the types of hoax stories they did when I lived there and this it not in the same Vein, so hence my scepticism.
    Either way, with the mood of Australians over this, I reckon it was a poor call and one they will pay for.

  172. 1735099

    Numbers – It’d be appreciated if you link directly, not use goolagproxy links.

    I’ll link any way I like.
    You don’t have to follow them.
    Besides, I ceased taking orders in 1971.
    I have stuck to that habit for nearly fifty years.

  173. Rex Mango

    Numbers, at ease. I order you right now to relate all your tales about war time service.

  174. struth

    Besides, I ceased taking orders in 1971.

    Yawn.
    Lost in the ancient past.

  175. MatrixTransform

    I’ll link any way I like.

    then yr links will for the most part be ignored.

    …why are you here?

  176. Arky

    Taft 27th President of the United States
    In office
    March 4, 1909 – March 4, 1913:

    Tariffs and reciprocity
    At the time of Taft’s presidency, protectionism through the use of tariffs was a fundamental position of the Republican Party.[81] The Dingley Tariff had been enacted to protect American industry from foreign competition. The 1908 party platform had supported unspecified revisions to the Dingley Act, and Taft interpreted this to mean reductions. Taft called a special session of Congress to convene on March 15, 1909 to deal with the tariff question.[82]

    Sereno E. Payne, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, had held hearings in late 1908, and sponsored the resulting draft legislation. On balance, the bill reduced tariffs slightly, but when it passed the House in April 1909 and reached the Senate, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Rhode Island Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, attached many amendments raising rates. This outraged progressives such as Wisconsin’s Robert M. La Follette, who urged Taft to say that the bill was not in accord with the party platform. Taft refused, angering them.[83

  177. Chris

    Besides, I ceased taking orders in 1971.

    Moved to the delivery window?

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Besides, I ceased taking orders in 1971.’

    Except for the time you followed your orders from the BFBs to relinquish the spack bus, whose use you refused to justify.

  179. Bruce of Newcastle

    You don’t have to follow them.

    Sheep follow where they know not where they’re going.
    Cats have judgement, caution and sense.

  180. Arky

    We now move on to Harding 29th President of the United States
    In office
    March 4, 1921 – August 2, 1923:
    ..

    When Harding took office on March 4, 1921, the nation was in the midst of a postwar economic decline.[136] At the suggestion of its leaders, Harding called a special session of Congress to convene on April 11. When Harding addressed the joint session the following day, he urged the reduction of income taxes (raised during the war), an increase in tariffs on agricultural goods to protect the American farmer, as well as more wide-ranging reforms, such as support for highways, aviation, and radio.[137][138] But it was not until May 27 that Congress passed an emergency tariff increase on agricultural products. An act authorizing a Bureau of the Budget followed on June 10; Harding appointed Charles Dawes as bureau director with a mandate to cut expenditures.[139]

  181. Cassie of Sydney

    “Catallaxy is a sewer of extreme opinion.”

    Well we all know how the racist loves to defecate here on this site…such that it becomes a toilet for his own extreme opinions.

    Geez…I mean who could forget his extreme opinion that Isr**li border guards pour bleach down the throats of poor Pally women. I reckon that libel comes out of a sewer of extreme opinion….or his other extreme opinion gem….calling religious Jooos “religious extremists”…something he doesn’t use to describe suicidal maniacal religious extremists who do things like…umm….blow up children at an Ariana Grande concerts. I could go on with other examples but we all know the truth…and that is that the only sewer of extreme opinion lies in the Toowoomba Turd’s own feeble low IQ brain.

  182. Rex Mango

    Arky, when you going to cover Van Buren?:

  183. 1735099

    On this occasion, they attracted responses of both these types, let it run for a few days and then said it was a HOAX.

    In other words, you can interpret it any way you want.
    The NT voters have their own interpretation.
    They elected a Labor government in 2016, as I recall.
    What was the result?
    Something like ALP – 16 seats; CLP – 2 seats; Independents – 7 sounds familiar.

  184. Arky

    Coolidge 30th President of the United States
    In office
    August 2, 1923 – March 4, 1929
    ..

    The result of McKinley’s policies as Coolidge noted was the “application of his principle of a protective tariff, which furnished the initial opportunity for laying down of the greatest industries of America and the development of her entire resources.”[5] Coolidge, just as McKinley argued, that protectionism benefited not just business, but the farmer and laborer as well.
    ..
    “Cheap goods meant cheap men,”
    -Calvin Coolidge.

  185. Mark A

    Mark A
    #3296670, posted on January 19, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    8th Dan
    #3296776, posted on January 19, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    Sure … still didn’t provide a link.

    ‘=====================
    Did numbers say there was no risk of election fraud in the US?
    ‘=================
    Posted it at 12:42 pm you dumb fu..k

  186. Arky

    We need not go into Hoover and Smoot–Hawley as no doubt all are familiar.

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘In other words, you can interpret it any way you want.’

    Stop trying to clunk that MX5 into reverse, Old Yeller.

    It was a hoax. They said it was a hoax. The NT News’ Chief of Staff, who I know in social circles said it was a hoax, and he also said the ‘journos’ hadn’t stopped laughing about it since it went to print, and further said they were partly inspired by the Betoota Advocate – hence the language in the editorial.

    You are of course free to interpret it any want you want, which will be the same as usual. To try and minimise within your decaying, cowardly carcass the level of rank idiocy that compelled to you to open your trap in the first place.

  188. stackja

    Arky
    #3296798, posted on January 19, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    FDR ‘fixed’ all the ‘problems’.

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    And, as I wanted to separate the political distraction squirrel:

    ‘They elected a Labor government in 2016, as I recall.’

    A Territory election, yes. And they’re about to get extremely unelected in August.

    The NT, like everywhere else in the country let Tits know that his ‘climate change election’ was a festering sack of shit.

  190. Knuckle Dragger

    Arky!

    Do William Henry Harrison!

  191. The Barking Toad

    Most problems in the world can be fixed with a combination of hammer, duct tape and WD40.

    So endeth the Sunday lesson.

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Isr**li border guards pour bleach down the throats of poor Pally women’

    Oooh yeah, that was a good one.

    Tell us again, Liability Bob! About the Pali bleach drinking chicks! Surely there’s a PedestrianTV link about it!

    You gargantuan halfwit.

  193. Rex Mango

    Numbers, I hereby order you to blindly follow all promulgated ALP dogma and repeat their talking points ad-nauseum upon this blog.

  194. egg_

    Catallaxy is…

    What was 1/8th Wang’s insult – inbred rednecks or summut?
    Deplorable behaviour.
    Sad.

  195. Rex Mango

    Numbers, warning order. At no time should you ever be funny either.

  196. DrBeauGan

    There are few situations in life that cannot be honourably settled, and without loss of time, either by suicide, a bag of gold, or by thrusting a despised antagonist over the edge of a precipice on a dark night.

  197. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3296789, posted on January 19, 2020 at 2:13 pm

    Sheep follow where they know not where they’re going.

    Yes they do!

  198. Arky

    On to Eisenhower and GATT:
    ..

    The primary international concern of top officials in the Eisenhower administration was to counteract the spread of communism, especially in Europe and the Far East. Both Eisenhower and his Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, viewed the expansion of international trade as a vital tool for integrating non-communist countries with the United States

    ..
    By the time Eisenhower took office Democrats had slashed average tariffs from the 50% of the 1930s down to 12%
    This figure would remain constant during Eisenhower’s two terms, despite the fact that he faced a Democrat house and senate for six of those years.

  199. Infidel Tiger

    Looks like our hysterical and fake news peddling media have destroyed our tourism industry.

    They’ll be stoked.

  200. Rex Mango

    Mark, sheep in the snow not as good as corgis in the snow:

  201. Tom

    At no time should you ever be funny either.

    Don’t worry, Rex. When he decided to flood the Cat with trolls, Doomlord knew that, apart from rendering the joint unreadable for big slabs of the day, only repulsive, ignorant, humourless, smartarse knowalls like Numbers and Googleory would apply — and he’s been true to his word.

  202. Arky

    On to Nixon:
    ..

    On August 15, 1971, President Nixon issued Proclamation 4074, in which he declared a national emergency and
    imposed a 10% ad valorem supplemental duty on all dutiable articles imported into the United States. That evening, in a
    televised address to the nation, President Nixon outlined his new economic policy, the targets of which were
    unemployment, inflation, and international speculation. He addressed the supplemental duty specifically:
    I am taking one further step to protect the dollar, to improve our balance of payments, and to increase jobs for
    Americans. As a temporary measure, I am today imposing an additional tax of 10% on goods imported into the United
    States. This is a better solution for international trade than direct controls on the amount of imports.
    This import tax is a temporary action. It isn’t directed against any other country. It is an action to make certain that
    American products will not be at a disadvantage because of unfair exchange rates. When the unfair treatment is ended,
    the import tax will end as well.

  203. Peter the old fossil

    Numbers, I hereby order you to blindly follow all promulgated ALP dogma and repeat their talking points ad-nauseum upon this blog.

    Or he could be like the rest of the Catallaxy Collective, cut out the middleman, vote Liberal, pretend there is a difference, and just be done with it. Simple, easy, quick, effective. What’s not to like?

  204. DrBeauGan

    An hour and a quarter and I’ll be paying vast sums in duty.

  205. johanna

    Entropy at 11.23 am – what a magnificent rant – and so true.

    Byron is one of the most beautiful places on the planet, which first hippies and then the rich wokerati figured out.

    The town council has become more and more like the equivalent in once superb San Francisco – can’t be picking on homeless people amid all this riches. Sorry about the poo and needles on the street.

    And what a moneymaker it has been. My old boss bought a shack on the beach for about $30k in the early nineties, and it is now worth millions.

    Note also that it has one of the lowest vaccination rates in NSW, so every time there is an outbreak of a childhood infectious disease, the Byron luvvies are at the top of the list.

  206. Rex Mango

    Tom, Numbers is many things, but not a knowall. He doesn’t know of any islands that have sunk below the sea.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘This kind of social circle?’

    As it happens, Liability Bob, no. I don’t hang out with convicted sex traffickers and their enablers. I appreciate you very clearly and publicly asking the question, though.

    I’d hang out with Donald the Conqueror and his squeeze, though. No question.

    Not sure what you’re imputing here. I’m a cynical bear, though, so I do tend to take these sorts of vague assertions at their worst. I know I shouldn’t, but it’s just me.

    Anyway. Tell us again about the indig section mate of your that was segregated in the Melbourne pub. That one’s always a hoot.

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    *of yours*

    Goddamned penis banner.

  209. Rex Mango

    Dr BG, two x 1.25litres duty free Absolut Vodka please.

  210. Arky

    Gerald Ford 38th President of the United States
    In office
    August 9, 1974 – January 20, 1977
    ..
    Gerald Ford attempted to impose an import fee on OPEC, but was stopped from doing so by a majority Democrat Congress.
    Which takes us through all the Republican presidencies from Lincoln on.
    All of which imposed higher tariffs, with the exception of Eisenhower, all of which were opposed in so doing by the Democrats.

  211. cohenite

    I’ll link any way I like.
    You don’t have to follow them.
    Besides, I ceased taking orders in 1971.
    I have stuck to that habit for nearly fifty years.

    What a shitstain you are troll. Arrogant and stupid. Go away and die.

  212. Arky

    Go away and die.

    ..
    You should lose this from your repertoire.
    As annoying as it is to have three posters on here who by their own admission are here only to disrupt.

  213. Val Majkus

    Looks like our hysterical and fake news peddling media have destroyed our tourism industry

    Infidel, totally agree … the media have been abhorrent … seems to be the theatrical nature of television; get reporters in the field, dress them up in those orange uniforms and peddle the shock and horror for all it’s worth .. I’ve stopped watching the television news

  214. Arky

    The palliative for blog trolls is more frequent posting from others on interesting topics.
    Please go to it, as at times I feel I am hogging the place, but this is only because we need more contributions from others.

  215. Infidel Tiger

    They’ll all “go away and die” the moment they stop getting acknowledged.

  216. Boambee John

    No one can dispute the science that tells us climate change is real …

    I’m not aware of any reasonably sentient being who disputes that there is a climate, and that it has been changing for millenia. It will continue to change regardless of the efforts of a few nitwits overendowed with hubris, who think that humans can stop this process.

    The issues in dispute, of which the editorial writer and various easily led people either are unaware, or choose to ignore, are the extent of human (anthropogenic) influence, and the likely (or unlikely) level of harm (catastrophe) likely to occur. Both of these are valid points of contention.

  217. Rex Mango

    Cohenite, correct.

    I’ll link any way I like. [translate; stupidity]
    You don’t have to follow them. [translate; arrogance]
    Besides, I ceased taking orders in 1971. [translate; narcissism]
    I have stuck to that habit for nearly fifty years. [translate; stubbornness]

  218. cohenite

    You should lose this from your repertoire.

    Why?

    They’ll all “go away and die” the moment they stop getting acknowledged.

    No they don’t.

  219. Arky

    Which takes us through all the Republican presidencies from Lincoln on.

    ..
    Onto Reagan, of course, who started the modern trend of Republican free- marketism.
    But only because the Congress and party had by this stage been infected by it via the advisers they had coming out of Harvard.

  220. Peter the old fossil

    Go away and die.
    You should lose this from your repertoire.

    Why, Arky?
    Worked a treat for Infidel Tiger a a fortnight ago.
    Of course, he had a lot of help from the usual suspects.

  221. Mark from Melbourne

    Most problems in the world can be fixed with a combination of hammer, duct tape and WD40.

    And blu-tac. Never underestimate blu-tac.

  222. Boambee John

    The opposite is in fact the case.
    Every survey/poll indicates that.
    Catallaxy is a sewer of extreme opinion.

    The real, genuine, poll (the election) seemed not to agree.

  223. Old Lefty

    If Tom the pyrogeographer doesn’t live in Victoria, he should think of moving there. The Socialist Left Green ABC Fairfax church arson program would welcome him with open arms.

  224. Fisky

    After Trump’s tariff palooza of the last two years, shouldn’t the US economy be a smoking wreck?
    Wasn’t that what libertarians and economists promised?

    Yes, they predicted a massive recession, a bit like the anti-Brexit bedwetters in the UK. Oh dear, how embarrassing for libertarians!

  225. Fisky

    All respectable economists must apologise and admit that immigration restriction and tariffs have been tremendously successful.and wealth emhancing – just look at US stocks! This is an epochal refutation of the entire economics profession!

  226. Rex Mango

    Job Interviewer: ‘How do you deal with authority?’

    Numbers; ‘I stopped taking orders in 1971’

    Job Interviewer; ‘How do you manage change?’

    Numbers; ‘I have stuck to that habit for nearly fifty years’

    Job Interviewer; ‘What would you say to someone who didn’t follow directions?’

    Numbers; ‘You don’t have to follow them’

    Job Interviewer; ‘Do you have any questions?’

    Numbers; ‘I’ll link any way I like’

  227. Val Majkus

    from Watts up with That about the Aussie bushfires a couple of quotes

    Many of the arsonists and the reckless are children. Yet, many are adults aged between 30 and 60, predominantly male.
    It’s impossible to reduce the number of sociopaths in a society to absolute zero. And even one sociopath can ignite several fires in proximate locations that can join up into a single crown fire.
    How? Because, the fuel—the forest canopy, runs for miles as a single, unbroken circuit.
    And it is governments who are, by stealth, opposing the significant breaking of these fire circuits.
    The fuel loads pile up waiting for a hot summer ignition. This Australian fire season was preceded by years of drought: the fuel was plenty, it was dry, it was unbroken—making the disaster inevitable—the arsonist’s power had been multiplied tenfold by those entrusted to protect us.

    After every major bushfire, there are inquiries, funded by the State. And the conclusions are exactly the same.

    CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation) is Australia’s national, state-owned science agency. In 2015, CSIRO bushfire scientist David Packham had warned that “forest fuel levels [in the state of Victoria] had climbed to their most dangerous level in thousands of years,” a situation he attributed to “misguided green ideology” and which presented “an increasing threat to human life, water supplies, property and the forest environment.” Packham recommended the tripling of the fuel-reduction burning target. But in fact, even the minimum target agreed by both major political parties was not met, only a quarter of it was done (less than a tenth of what was actually required).
    This Royal Commission inquiry was held after the “Black Saturday” fires in Victoria on February 7, 2009, killed 173 people, hospitalized over 800 others, destroyed 2133 houses and burnt hundreds of thousands of hectares.

    Why Are the Authorities Derelict?

    One government backbencher, MP Craig Kelly, could take it no more. On January 6, he appeared on Great Britain First, and spoke truth to power, pointing the finger at the real villain: the buildup of record fuel loads and arson, and later calling his critics on Facebook “lefty trolls” who were “brainwashed.” Media host Piers Morgan blasted Kelly’s candor as “absolutely disgraceful.” British meteorologist Laura Tobin awarded Kelly a medal of valor … well, she called him a “climate denier,” which amounts to the same thing.
    Soon after, even many conservative MPs quickly distanced themselves from Mr. Kelly.
    What is at work here is that the climate racket hasn’t just taken over the media. Heads of state, including Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison and U.S. President Donald Trump, are so wary of the racket’s power over the citizenry, that hardly anyone confronts it head-on.

  228. Knuckle Dragger

    Rex,

    Brilliant. Perfectly captures the self-admitted ‘aging subversive’.

  229. johanna

    First the greenies want to destroy our mining industry and claim that everyone can be redeployed in tourism – then they try to destroy the tourism industry by claiming (falsely) that The Great Barrier Reef is dead.

    Of course, these sensitive hypochondriacs are horrified by the slaughtering and eating of meat. Rather like our own JC, who apparently can sort eggs according to how he feels the next day. Most Sicilians are stoic individuals, what a disappointment you must be to your parents.

    But, I digress.

    These people are nihilists who just want to destroy, and have no idea what will come after. They don’t care. It’s an adolescent fantasy writ large.

  230. mh

    Breitbart covering the Women’s March

    The love theme of the protest shifted when a Hispanic group of women took the stage to reprise a Latin American protest song, “A Rapist in Your Path,” which has graphic lyrics accusing men of being rapists:

    Lyrics to the song in English are:

    Patri-archy is our judge

    That imprisons us at birth

    And our punishment

    Is the violence you DON’T see.

    Patri-archy is our judge

    That imprisons us at birth

    And our punishment

    Is the violence you CAN see.

    It’s femicide.

    Impunity for my killer.

    It’s our disappearances.

    It’s rape!

    And it’s not my fault, not where I was, not how I dressed.

    And the rapist WAS you

    And the rapist IS you

    It’s the cops,It’s the judges,

    It’s the system,

    It’s the president.

    I thought Trump covered this during his announcement that he was running for President.

    Or maybe they are calling for Trump to get tougher.

  231. Knuckle Dragger

    Er Maj should capitalise on the goodwill towards the slightly smaller Royal Family by immediately abolishing TV licences.

    Left unchecked, it’s this sort of thing that starts civil wars.

  232. johanna

    Fisky
    #3296853, posted on January 19, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    After Trump’s tariff palooza of the last two years, shouldn’t the US economy be a smoking wreck?
    Wasn’t that what libertarians and economists promised?

    Yes, they predicted a massive recession, a bit like the anti-Brexit bedwetters in the UK. Oh dear, how embarrassing for libertarians!

    It has been very embarrasing, especially as consumer prices in the US have not only not risen, but fallen.

    I expect that they will tell us that it hasn’t been applied properly yet.

  233. Arky

    Every Republican President from Lincoln on until those wretched Bushes understood that government revenues should be raised by tariff, not tax. By doing so they mostly ran surpluses.
    Every Democrat President ever, EVER, has done their darndest to reduce tariffs as quickly as politically possible.

  234. kaysee

    I feel I am hogging the place, but this is only because we need more contributions from others.

    Like this? 😺

  235. egg_

    Looks like our hysterical and fake news peddling media have destroyed our tourism industry.

    Go woke, go broke.

    Likewise, Germany’s car industry ist kaputt?

  236. Infidel Tiger

    No they don’t.

    You wouldn’t know. You’ve never stopped acknowledging them.

    You’re a junkie and your gear is Grig and Numbers. You yearn for them like a love sick puppy waiting for its master on the porch.

    Very sick behaviour.

  237. johanna

    Old Lefty
    #3296852, posted on January 19, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    If Tom the pyrogeographer doesn’t live in Victoria, he should think of moving there. The Socialist Left Green ABC Fairfax church arson program would welcome him with open arms.

    He should be moved, at public expense, to a ‘treechanger’ house in the middle of several thousand inflammatory gum trees.

  238. 1735099

    The real, genuine, poll (the election) seemed not to agree.

    Suggest you read the Coalition’s Climate Solutions policy.
    Amongst other things, it promotes reducing emissions, supporting the uptake of renewables, and developing a national electric vehicle strategy.

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