Tuesday Forum: January 21, 2020

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2,446 Responses to Tuesday Forum: January 21, 2020

  1. Lazlo

    Read Stone’s analysis of the RBA under current leadership over at Quadrant Online, JC.

    They are a waste of space.

  2. Rex Mango

    Tour De France has ancient castles, chateaus and thousands of people lining the route cheering. Tour Down Under has burnt orange grass and like on girl on a hill doing a handclap.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    You can have a root ON a fridge.

    And on a Corolla. The bonnet, anyway.

  4. Rex Mango

    Bench seats & column shift are one of the things modern cars have lost. Never understood the attraction of bucket seats. Bucket seats are probably retro too. I bet Arky’s Model A has bucket seats. The first cars were also convertibles. Drive In theatres would never have taken off without bench seats.

  5. Mark A

    Tour De France has ancient castles, chateaus and thousands of people lining the route cheering.

    Many people watch it for the same reason. The scenery is magnificent throughout the tour.
    Only a few bike enthusiasts would watch it for the race itself.
    Watching blokes ride a bike over that many days gets stale very quickly, only a few sections are interesting in that respect.

  6. JC

    Lazlo,

    Stone is correct to describe Lowe as a a dunce, but not for all the reasons he gives. Also, Stone is a dunce too. His refusal to advise the government of the time to float the exchange rate will go down as the stupidest advice ever by a treasury secretary.

    In the piece, Stone is again focused on the exchange rate and interest rate moves. The exchange rate is a subset of monetary policy and should never drive policy. Also, he mentions the ECB and the Fed easing to extremes in the financial crisis. Is Stone mad? Of course they had to ease to extremes. Doing otherwise would have seen us in a depression.

  7. Rex Mango

    One of the great attractions of bench seats was on long drives you could change drivers without dropping below 100. Took some preparation, teamwork and straight stretch of road, but yeah saved lot of time and fuel. Also good when on a long drive you wanted to change position, stretch the legs.

  8. Armadillo

    Ok, some natives ate some flying foxes.

    My question was about the ground dwelling ones. Stick your hand up if you’ve eaten a fox.

    Let’s not be shy about it. It’s not as if anyone here will be judgemental about it. Fess up.

  9. JC

    Another NYC institution goes down the gurgler.

    Fairway Market, the longtime New York City supermarket, is preparing to file for bankruptcy within days, with a plan to sell off the business to a number of buyers who have been circling the chain, according to people familiar with the matter.

    The grocery store, which was put up for sale last year, said Wednesday it has no plans to close its 14 locations. It issued a statement after the New York Post reported that the company could file for chapter 7 bankruptcy as soon as Wednesday.

    WSJ

  10. Leigh Lowe

    max

    #3300483, posted on January 23, 2020 at 11:27 pm

    The Indians are not big on touching or sharing things like drink bottles or kissing. The Brahmin refuse to be touched by lower castes. One of the reasons cricket was embraced, particularly by the Brahmin caste. Non contact.

    So, last ball of the match, four to win.
    The quick steams in and, in the last stride forgets all about line and length and digs it in.
    The batsmen absolutely creams the pull shot which is four all the way until the bloke at mid-wicket pulls in a sreaming one-hand catch.
    No mid pitch orgy.
    Just a “well caught sir” and they walk off.
    As it should be.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    You can have sex in a Corolla.
    It gets a little cramped if you invite a second person to get involved, though.

  12. Rex Mango

    Dillo, saw Bear Grillis eat a skunk, has to be worse than a fox. No-one seems to eat cat either.

  13. Rex Mango

    LL, think you will find modern Corolla (also with fold down seats etc) has similar interior volume to an XA Falcon.

  14. Leigh Lowe

    A gentleman never partakes of sexual intercourse in an automobile.

  15. Armadillo

    Drive In theatres would never have taken off without bench seats.

    America and popular culture wouldn’t have taken off without Hollywood. They started with Cinderella and ended up with Harvey Weinstein. .

  16. Rex Mango

    LL, no dictator has ever ruled over an automobile owning population. That was one of Adolf’s big blunders. Even if he had won the war, the boxheads would’ve got in their VW’s and driven away.

  17. Armadillo

    No-one seems to eat cat either.

    Explain the “Lunchtime Specials” at the local Chinese Restaurant.

  18. Rex Mango

    Dillo, right now Harvey is proving why he should’ve been in front of the camera all along. Did you see when they took the walker away and he stumbled? Also it seems, some of the text messages don’t help the prosecution.

  19. Rex Mango

    Dillo, A Current Affair did an expose a few years ago where they showed Chinese places in Sydney who would scrape the leftovers into certain bins and then wash the meat to re-use. Theoretically you might have been eating ten year old pork.

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    LL, no dictator has ever ruled over an automobile owning population. That was one of Adolf’s big blunders.

    I read a history of Wobbly Wobbly Two that cited there was a vehicle for every two Yanks at the start of the shooting, there was an automobile for every forty Germans.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    I only at a bat once.
    A Gray-Nicholls as I recall.

  22. Rex Mango

    ZK2A, that might be true, but the American mechanised army also created massive supply problems for them. The Germs had perhaps three men supplying one, while the Yanks had seven.

  23. Armadillo

    VW’s were Hitlers revenge.

    Arky should be able to knock one up in no time. Find any scrap of metal in your shed, and throw it in a pile. Job done.

    Spray paint “VWW” on the front of the scrap pole distinguish it from the Model A.

  24. Rex Mango

    Steve T not about, so will commence musical segment of the evening:

  25. Rex Mango

    Ferdinand Porsche ripped off the VW Beetle from some Check designer, who post WW2 VW paid reparations.

  26. Rex Mango

    No-one awake so lets do a song that is good, but the video is great. On the Overland between Adelaide and Melbourne (might be discontinoud now):

  27. Rex Mango

    Steve T, take note that, that train rivals your Big Boy clips.

  28. Dave in Marybrook

    You’re talking of the Tatra V570.

  29. Nob

    Tel
    #3300341, posted on January 23, 2020 at 8:11 pm
    . Does anyone have a suggestion for aftermarket driver seats that are comfortable on long drives?

    This is the one thing that SAAB does better than any auto maker. (despite most of the vehicle being standard GM.)

    Fuctifino how you put one in a Corolla.

  30. Rex Mango

    Dave, yeah as I remember Adolf was big car nut & him & Porsche went to car show in Czechsolvakia & saw that. First thing that they then did was invade the joint. They also took over Skoda’s factories too. Porsche was a genius, but the Beetle he borrowed.

  31. Rex Mango

    Ok, gotta work tomorrow. As Australia Day on the horizon, ignoring the previous 98,770 years of music, here is without doubt hands down the greatest band. Enjoy:

  32. Tom

    Neverending TDS from David Rowe (anti-business daily).

  33. Nick

    Sitting at the front of one of SQ’s planes at 37000 feet, laughing at Leak’s work.

  34. BorisG,

    It was reported in the news that Tesla is now worth Ford and GM combined. Bubble? Any comments ?

  35. Goanna

    He’d offer a stiff resistance, John Constantine, but I suspect he’s been taken – gulagged in a socialist shithole.

    Ears to the ground, they’ll be moving him ‘round.

    Comrades.

  36. calli

    Love the Zanetti toon. True too.

  37. Mater

    It was reported in the news that Tesla is now worth Ford and GM combined. Bubble? Any comments ?

    Boris, please don’t get JC started.
    He’s been prancing around this place, waving his Pom-Poms, for the last week.
    It’s been quite disturbing, tbh.

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    There was some talk last night about the Chinese food industry.

    The entire Chinese food industry – all of it – is based on a dare. That’s why all the cooks in the back of these joints are always happy.

    ‘Look, Wong, look! Fat man really eating it!’

  39. PeterM

    Ask JC Boris. Tesla seem to have taken over from Bitcoin as the bubble of preference of the woke generation.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    The toon in the Scottish rag Tom put up this morning (Brian and his Mum) is excellent.

  41. calli

    Chuckle. Seven presenter on the dust storm. “Normally the Yarra looks pretty filthy anyway”.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    Meth Coast Eagles ruckman Nic Natanui is a pretty good footballer. He’s also a flog, who’s started believing his manager’s press while in rehab for quite some time. The Hun:

    ‘Star ruckman Nic Naitanui is calling on the Western Australian government to ‘stand up’ and change the date of Australia Day. Naitanui acknowledged that not everyone would agree with his views but added that “division is boring as s—”.

    ‘He believes moving the national public holiday from the 26th of January will help alleviate tensions and create a more inclusive celebration from Australians of all backgrounds.’

    Despite your bespoke hairstyle Mr Natanui, you are not Col’n K’pernik. Or maybe you are.

  43. Mater

    Just one comment from the Nine News Facebook site announcing the death of Scott Morrison’s father.

    Now he will have some insight into how all the families of those burnt to death in the fires feel. They also lost every other worldly good to top it off. And all the animals burnt and with habitat loss. I believe it wont change him at all.

    What an ugly group of ill informed people.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    There is a small helipad on the Yarra next to the Casino, but on the other side of the river.

    If you happen to knock off with your colleagues at 11.00 p.m. and decide to have a small bonfire near said helipad along with 20 beers over the next seven hours, a natural consequence will be to discuss the probability of successfully walking along one of the two 20 – 30 foot long cylindrical struts holding the helipad to the river.

    My advice is not to attempt this feat of balance and co-ordination, as you will discover the last third of said struts are wrapped in barbed wire. And the Yarra stinks, but not as much as the clothes stank once saturated in it.

    #itsalways1997

  45. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Now he will have some insight into how all the families of those burnt to death in the fires feel.’

    Why will his father dying give him that insight?

    Was his father’s death a consequence of Green fuel load denying policy in all three levels of government?

  46. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    incoherent testimony, how thick is this wyminsis

    Actor Annabella Sciorra has given emotional testimony that Harvey Weinstein raped her more than 25 years ago as she helplessly tried to ward off his aggressive advances.

    “I was punching him. I was kicking him. I was just trying to get him away from me, and he took my hands and put them over my head,” Sciorra told the jury in Weinstein’s sex assault trial on Thursday, her eyes welling up with tears and her voice breaking.

  47. calli

    Looking into the abyss, Mater. Imagine the wizened, bitter heart that produced that comment.

  48. Cardimona

    Cats, further to what Struth was saying the other day, I try and sheet blame home to the UN in letters to editors as often as possible.
    A bit surprisingly, this one made print in the Sydney Daily Tele today.

    UN’s great climate hoax
    Charles Miranda’s story (New climate refugee rule, 23/1) on the UN planning to force developed countries to accept refugees from “countries deemed to be under environmental threat” should serve as a wake-up to all patriotic Aussies.
    The UN is not our friend — it’s now a global socialist organisation intent on forming a world government by gradually stripping away member nations’ sovereignty
    — all on the basis of a climate hoax which they have made up.
    Don’t believe me? Where’s the sea-level rise congruent to CO2 emissions after the 1990s Asian boom? Where’s the rise that tracks China’s growth? Check NOAA’s (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) sea-level gauges — Kiribati has a lower average rise than does Brisbane (1.17 mm/yr vs 1.21 mm/yr), and both are showing recent falls.
    The sooner we get UNexit done the better off we will be.

  49. Mater

    Looking into the abyss, Mater. Imagine the wizened, bitter heart that produced that comment.

    Yes, Calli. And I thought females were meant to have more empathy, and be the catalyst for a kinder world.
    A female it was.

  50. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3300604, posted on January 24, 2020 at 7:18 am

    What an ugly group of ill informed people.”

    I think that is putting it very mildly. This country has become a nation of vicious barbarians…..given cover and sanctuary on platforms (or sewers as I prefer to call them) like Facebook and Twitter…where they are able to bleat and bombard with their bile, bias and bigotry.

    As an aside…and whilst no fan of her politics, it was nice to see that Julia Gillard put out a touching tweet of acknowledgement on ScoMo’s father’s death. Credlin last night ended her show by showing the tweet. If you remember…..Gillard also lost her father whilst she was PM. I wonder if that that Miserable Turd of Point Piper, who has spent the last few weeks maligning Morrison, will do the same? I wonder what kind of tweet the Turd of Point Piper’s creepy son will send out from his tax haven in Singapore….he always has something to say.

  51. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3300611, posted on January 24, 2020 at 7:30 am
    Looking into the abyss, Mater. Imagine the wizened, bitter heart that produced that comment.

    Yes, Calli. And I thought females were meant to have more empathy, and be the catalyst for a kinder world.
    A female it was.”

    Females are the worst. It is why Mossad has a policy that when dealing with terrorists….shoot the women first.

  52. calli

    Speaking of JoNova, we had an outage last night, 4:30 tp 6:00pm.

    On contacting OzGrid, the recording said it was from an unknown cause, but should be restored by 6:30pm.

    In other words they lied. Ration time.

    I suspect the shutdown was to keep the Tomago smelter going.

  53. Mater

    Yes, Calli. And I thought females were meant to have more empathy, and be the catalyst for a kinder world.

    Which brings me to an interesting discussion which was had at the Cat drinks the other night.
    Upon being asked about the reactions he has experienced when wearing his MAGA hat around, Tailgunner said that the only people who have felt ‘obliged’ to abuse him, were females.

    He put it down to the fact that blokes understand the rules. That is; start mouthing off at another bloke without reason and you’ll likely get a well deserved smack in the mouth (and Gunner looks like he can handle himself).

    Women, on the other hand, seem to understand the rules, but assume that it doesn’t apply to them. They seem to assume that anyone wearing a MAGA hat will abide by traditional societal norms (ironically), and feel quite safe (and righteous) to abuse away.

    I must admit, it does kinda gel with my observations of the wider community in the recent past.

    Interesting times.

  54. Women, on the other hand, seem to understand the rules, but assume that it doesn’t apply to them. They seem to assume that anyone wearing a MAGA hat will abide by traditional societal norms (ironically), and feel quite safe (and righteous) to abuse away.

    Women start most violence at licensed venues.

    Even if they don’t participate.

  55. She swapped warm and “loving” emails with him for four years after she now says she was violently assaulted. In that time, they carried on a sexual relationship and she referred to him as her “casual boyfriend.”

    Good lord what a travesty. The entire NYPD investigation is utterly corrupt also.

    But hey. They still found Cosby guilty after a second unconstitutional trial.

    Google the Pound Cake Speech.

    Mark my words.

    Weinstein was going to come out as a conservative.

  56. The UN is not our friend — it’s now a global socialist organisation intent on forming a world government by gradually stripping away member nations’ sovereignty
    — all on the basis of a climate hoax which they have made up.

    The problem is that the US – even “Herr Donald von Dwumpfenfuhrer’s Amerikkka” fund the stupid and malicious organisation and host its HQ.

  57. struth

    Good moaning.
    Females know only too well they can abuse men and get away with it.
    But they seem to instinctively know it’s only western men they can get away with it.

  58. duncanm

    Leigh Lowe
    #3300527, posted on January 24, 2020 at 12:32 am
    A gentleman never partakes of sexual intercourse in an automobile.

    there’s always the ‘did not have sexual relations’ kind.

  59. Cassie of Sydney

    “She swapped warm and “loving” emails with him for four years after she now says she was violently assaulted. In that time, they carried on a sexual relationship and she referred to him as her “casual boyfriend.””

    I don’t know any women who would carry on a relationship of any kind with a man who had supposedly “violently assaulted” her.

    I find it hard to believe that a jury would convict him…it is ludicrous…and I hope that no jury convicts him. Whilst Weinstein was, is and always will be a total grub…..since when is being a grub a crime?

  60. Geriatric Mayfly

    Guess it was bound to happen.

    Mutant goat born with human-like face will be ‘worshipped as an avatar of God’ in India: report

  61. Bruce of Newcastle

    Weinstein was going to come out as a conservative.

    Doubtful. The whole thing arose when the #metoo fad gave a sugar-rush to the feministas. Then it died when the men they were condemning all turned out to be Democrats. But by that time the Weinstein case had become irreversible.

    I’m amused by his Zimmer frame. Every now and then he forgets to lean on it with sufficient abject misery.

  62. I find it hard to believe that a jury would convict him…it is ludicrous…and I hope that no jury convicts him. Whilst Weinstein was, is and always will be a total grub…..since when is being a grub a crime?

    What about these actresses?

    They suck off an old fat rich guy for a role that lands them fame, an oscar and millions and twenty five years later, it wasn’t consensual (or transactional)?

    We all know Wynona Ryder ought to have been in Shakespeare in Love, a better actress, better looking and not a total kook.

    Well hey her and Goop used to be friends.

  63. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    However, there are mixed reports on the number of cities with imposed travel bans as the South China Morning Post reports eight cities in Hubei province in Central China—Wuhan, Huanggang, Ezhou, Chibi, Xiantao, Qianjiang, Zhijang and Lichuan — are now subject to travel bans.

    Meanwhile, eight other countries have reported patients with the virus — all either residents of Wuhan or recent visitors to the city.

    In Huanggang, theatres, internet cafes and other entertainment centres were also ordered closed.

  64. Mutant goat born with human-like face will be ‘worshipped as an avatar of God’ in India: report

    She’s currently in Massachusetts, reading 4chan and penning classics like I Knew You Were Trouble.

  65. Thankyou Rex and Dave for the information about the influence of the V570 Tatra on the shape (or perhaps it’s more) on the KDF (VW). I have read quite a bit about the history of the VW and seen early versions in German car museums. I may have missed references to the Tatra.

    Rex, one reference I checked said that the V570 was designed by an Austrian.

    And 1996 Saab I bought for rafiki jumior as a safe learner’s car ended up with me. It was a great comfortable car to drive. I was sad when it went to the wreckers after I was given a repair estimate about 7 times more than its value.

  66. Eyrie

    After letting that Chinese A330 land from Wuhan and disgorge passengers, it seems our Federal Government is illegitimate. Failed at first duty to protect Australia and the people in it. Should have serviced and re-fuelled the damn thing on the tarmac and sent it home without opening any doors.
    For now, erect a bamboo curtain around China.
    We are fvcked.

  67. struth

    Cats, further to what Struth was saying the other day, I try and sheet blame home to the UN in letters to editors as often as possible.
    A bit surprisingly, this one made print in the Sydney Daily Tele today.

    I sent a couple of emails off to Outsiders and Skynews and Credlin asking why, when most viewers watching already understand the role the UN has played in our demise, they seem to not to be able to google Guturres agenda 21 or agenda 2030.
    Why are people so reluctant to go there?
    They are the greatest stories for right wing journalists to pursue, to expose the real villains in our swamp, as ours is even more a sewer than the states.

  68. Dillo, saw Bear Grillis eat a skunk, has to be worse than a fox. No-one seems to eat cat either.

    A classic for the ages.

    http://www.gastronomydomine.com/2006/06/09/badger-stew/

  69. areff

    This is the one thing that SAAB does better than any auto maker

    Saabs actually do two things better than any other car,l and they do so simultaneously:

    They look very natural on the hoist while draining their owner’s bank accounts.

    As the former owner of multiple Fiats, I should have been inured to repeated visits to the mechanic’s, but a Saab taught me I didn’t know nothing.

    The only good and decent thing the car did well was catch fire and burn.

  70. calli

    We all know Wynona Ryder ought to have been in Shakespeare in Love, a better actress, better looking and not a total kook.

    Is that so?

    She would have pulled off the Rosalind part perfectly – woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman.

    We’ve had some here from time to time. 😁

  71. Geriatric Mayfly

    Waiter! There’s a fly in my soup.

    Chinese market at center of coronavirus
    outbreak sold wolves, rats to eat
    The Chinese market at the center of the deadly coronavirus outbreak sold live animals—including wolf pups, foxes, rats and peacocks—to eat, according to a new report. The wild animals were among 112 items that were peddled at the Huanan Seafood Market in the central city of Wuhan, Agence France-Press reported. Other wildlife sold at the market, which has since been shuttered, included crocodiles, giant salamanders, snakes, porcupines and camel meat. “Freshly slaughtered, frozen and delivered to your door,” said the price list for the vendor, “Wild Game Animal Husbandry for the Masses.” The disturbing list circulated widely on China’s internet

  72. struth

    Maybe if some of you could write as well, surely I wouldn’t be the only one trying to get these people to talk about the global socialist UN, just how bad it is, and just how much our traitorous politicians have forced us to bend over to it.

    Instead, they are trying to talk up the useless and lying Sco Mo, although I think the Outsiders are starting to get annoyed with him.

  73. calli

    Mayfly! What frightful, primitive people.

    No wonder they cheat at anything they can get their hands on.

    Your link to windy.com tells me all I need to know about the horrible place. The CO filter is an eye-opener. Mordor on stilts.

  74. struth

    The problem is that the US – even “Herr Donald von Dwumpfenfuhrer’s Amerikkka” fund the stupid and malicious organisation and host its HQ.

    How would the alternative had played out?
    He’s pulled out of Paris while his competitors, and that is us too, in many exports etc, still tie our hands behind our backs, unable to even put power into our grids 24/7.

    America first, my man, America first.

    We don’t need to have a thing to do with the UN, or fund it, but while he is trying to rebuild America, probably a good political move to let others shoot themselves in the foot.

  75. Frank Walker at 7.57

    You will have noted that the prosecution wishes to adduce ‘expert’ opinion evidence that this behaviour of the complainant is evidence that she wss raped. On the other hand, if a complaint is made soon after the events, that is also evidence of rape. (‘Soon after’ – not the technical term – might be found by the trial judge to be months later).

    In a High Court case (then) Gleeson CJ was critical if this having it both ways strategy, but I would not be surprised if trial courts permitted its use. OTOH, under the uniform Evidence Acts, a statement by the (later to be) accused denying rape might be allowed in as evidence in his favour. Smart lawyers should advise the man to make a sworn statement to an independent third party.

    The rules allow a great deal of discretion to the trial judges, which in part explains why leftists push so strongly for the appointment of leftist lawyers, and feminist women in particular. Sex offence cases are a large component of crumunal trials.

  76. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mayfly! What frightful, primitive people.

    Indeed Calli. Chinese penetration into weak African autocracies, certainly had me thinking on my last safari there. As we scouted the domains of all those unique animals, I thought to myself, “There goes the neighbourhood.”

  77. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Chinese market at centre of coronavirus’

    Told you.

  78. 1735099

    America first, my man, America first.

    We don’t need to have a thing to do with the UN, or fund it, but while he is trying to rebuild America, probably a good political move to let others shoot themselves in the foot.

    We also don’t need to have a thing to do with the US, if it is indeed “America first”.
    We need to have our own fully independent foreign policy, and go down the Israeli track when it comes to defence policy and industrial infrastructure.

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    We need to have our own fully independent foreign policy

    Everyone required to learn Chinese, eh Numbers?

  80. 1735099

    As the former owner of multiple Fiats, I should have been inured to repeated visits to the mechanic’s, but a Saab taught me I didn’t know nothing.

    Fiat – Fix it again, Tony….
    Saab – They make very good aeroplanes..

  81. Geriatric Mayfly

    Planet Cornelius limbering up for his morning jog ‘ere he has to face those pesky lawyers. May have to abandon the exercise as he cannot remember the route he takes.

  82. 1735099

    I find it hard to believe that a jury would convict him…it is ludicrous…and I hope that no jury convicts him. Whilst Weinstein was, is and always will be a total grub…..since when is being a grub a crime?

    True.
    If being a grub was a crime, Trump would have been locked up years ago.
    Having said that, being a grub is an actual crime when said grub commits sexual assault.
    Even when the President of the country admits doing it routinely, there are laws against that kind of thing in the USA.
    There doesn’t seem to be much doubt about that.

  83. MatrixTransform

    If being a grub was a crime, Trump would have been locked up years ago.

    Was it just yesterday that the Numptard had a problem with ad hom attacks?

    Why, yes it was.

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Even when the President of the country admits doing it routinely’

    versus

    ‘I couldn’t care less about what happens in the land of the shooting spree’

    He’s the leader of the free world. You’re a sad old coward with delusions of adequacy.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    Shows just how far TIME has gone backwards that Numbers now links to it.
    They should rename themselves EMIT.

  86. MatrixTransform

    Numpty’s imputator on the blink again?

  87. struth

    Sniffy, can you keep your anti American commo bullshit to a slightly less hysterical level, we are talking about the UN.

  88. Eyrie

    Someone remind me – doesn’t I srael have conscription?

  89. areff

    Saab: Sick and always broken

    Rover: Requires often very expensive repairs

  90. struth

    Now was it three Communist Chinese that just died fighting our bushfires?

    They own most of the country, near all our politicians, what did they send?

  91. MatrixTransform

    every morning while yr still asleep, the fairy rake-scatterer comes and carefully resets all the rakes

  92. Geriatric Mayfly

    Hollywood star and wellness entrepreneur Gwyneth Paltrow hosted her Goop company event in front of a vulva-shaped flower arrangement on Tuesday.

    Pic shows a vagina within a vagina. Now there’s a novelty. Coming up: The Vagina Duologues.

  93. 8th Dan

    JEEP = Just Enough Essential Parts

  94. lotocoti

    Waiter! There’s a fly in my soup.

    Waiter! There’s a tomato with my rat.
    (Decided linking exceeded the limits of Cat decency by a bit. And by a bit, I mean a lot.)

  95. struth

    Hollywood star and wellness entrepreneur Gwyneth Paltrow hosted her Goop company event in front of a vulva-shaped flower arrangement on Tuesday.

    Honest question.
    Why did I need to know that?

  96. Leigh Lowe

    areff

    #3300663, posted on January 24, 2020 at 9:16 am

    Saab: Sick and always broken

    Rover: Requires often very expensive repairs

    FIAT … Fix It Again, Tony.

  97. 1735099

    He’s the leader of the free world.

    Since when is the USA a bastion of freedom?
    They have one of the highest incarceration rates on the planet.
    As for Trump, nobody outside the US, and a majority of Americans would not follow him anywhere.

  98. a policy that when dealing with terrorists….shoot the women first.

    a policy that when dealing with terrorists people….shoot the women first.

  99. Geriatric Mayfly

    Honest question.
    Why did I need to know that?

    That’s the trouble with the world today, people have lost their natural curiosity.

  100. struth

    I’d actually support a republic if I knew Trump would be our first President.
    Love the bloke.
    He’s a god.
    Why, only if Trump became President of Australia?

    For many reasons, but just for shits and giggles and watching the torment he is giving the left, as we see in Numbers this morning.
    President Trump.
    Peace be upon him.

  101. struth

    That’s the trouble with the world today, people have lost their natural curiosity.

    It’s a natural defence mechanism……………………………………………………………..

    It’s Ok, breakfast was already over.

  102. Waiter! What’s this fly doing in my soup?

    Hmmm. Breaststroke?

    Hmmm. Jerkin’ orf?

    Hmmm. The chef used to be a tailor.

  103. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Why are people so reluctant to go there?
    They are the greatest stories for right wing journalists to pursue, to expose the real villains in our swamp, as ours is even more a sewer than the states.

    Struth,
    Those are the type of stories that really require a major commitment of resources: a series in a major daily or a book. On a show like Credlin, the interviews last mostly a couple of minutes. Bolt, on occasion, will have a longer interview and then have the guest back to further flesh out the story. The submarine debacle is an example.

    And the punters (not Cats) have a short attention span what with cooking dinner and helping the kids with their homework. What’s needed is a Hedley Thomas to do an investigation. But even then all politics is local. The U.N. is too far away too be of real interest. So there needs to be a link made to a “clear and present danger”. Were the govt to agree with the latest socialist agenda of allowing climate change to become a reason for refugees to claim asylum and starting taking in people in large number maybe Australians would stand up but maybe not. On top of that most people think on the U.N. as the chief broker of peace and civilisation in the world, which is as far from the true as possible. They also don’t realise how much money we, and other nations, are funnelling into its many depts.

    I’ve remember a previous American ambassador to Australia (can’t think of his name) who likened Australians to hobbits living in The Shire: enjoying life and mostly unaware of the evil and powerful forces at play in the world. We’re earnest, helpful people who want a quiet life without having to worry about all this crap. That’s why we accept the rubbish that passes for state governments.

  104. Geriatric Mayfly

    Autopsy of an Indiana woman’s baby has confirmed that she died by overdosing on the methamphetamine suffusing her mother’s breast milk.

  105. 1735099

    He’s a god.

    LOL

    He’s actually universally loathed, especially in Australia.
    Extremists (like those who post here), are the exception, of course.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Claim against Bruce Pascoe dismissed by AFP

    exclusive
    Paige Taylor
    WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor
    Matthew Denholm
    Tasmania Correspondent
    @MatthewRDenholm
    2 hours ago January 24, 2020

    The Australian Federal Police has dismissed an allegation against acclaimed author and historian Bruce Pascoe that he had benefited financially from wrongly claiming to be ­indigenous.

    A spokesman for the AFP said late on Thursday that it had finished assessing the complaint, which was initially sent to the office of Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton on December 11. Mr Dutton referred it to the AFP.

    “On 24 December, 2019, the AFP was referred correspondence in relation to alleged fraudulent activity against the commonwealth by Professor Bruce Pascoe,” the AFP spokesman wrote in an email to The Australian.

    “No commonwealth offence has been identified. The AFP has now finalised this matter.”

    Professor Pascoe’s 2014 bestseller Dark Emu draws on early explorers’ accounts of indigenous agriculture and land management to argue for a reconsideration of the label “hunter-gatherer” for pre-­colonial Aboriginal Australians.

    The book also “attempts to rebut the colonial myths that have worked to justify dispossession”, according to publisher Magabala Books. This point is important to some of Dark Emu’s most persistent critics.

    The allegation against Professor Pascoe was made by indigenous entrepreneur Josephine Cashman, a member of the senior voice-to-government advisory group appointed by Indigenous Australians Minister Ken Wyatt.

    Ms Cashman called for an investigation of Professor Pascoe for “dishonesty offences”.

    “Given the number of grants received by Pascoe and his associates, I believe a referral to the AFP is appropriate as a matter of urgency in the public interest,” Ms Cashman wrote in her email to Mr Dutton on December 11.

    Ms Cashman later forwarded the email to other politicians.

    Mr Dutton’s referral to the AFP was in keeping with protocols, The Australian has been told.

    Professor Pascoe’s latest book Salt introduces him to readers as a Bunurong man. His ancestry has been the subject of commentary and he addresses this in an essay in Salt called An Enemy of the People.

    “Many people think I’m a traitor. You’re not like the rest of them, they tell me, you’re not ­really Aboriginal,” he writes.

    “What they say has cool logic. Clinical analysis of genes says I’m more Cornish than Koori.”

    On ABC radio in Hobart on January 13, Professor Pascoe said: “I have been helped for 40 years by community to find my family. We still get leads from people … some people think that, you know, my association — family association — is too slim to worry about.

    “I’ve said that all along that these are distant relationships but they are important to me as is every relationship in my family.”

    While Ms Cashman’s letter to Mr Dutton called for a national strategy for establishing a register for Aboriginal people, Professor Pascoe said registers had been tried and had “destroyed community — they haven’t built community”.

    From the Oz. So, in the event of a treaty, involving payments of compensation and reparations, there is no real need to prove any Aboriginality to receive such payments?

  107. calli

    every morning while yr still asleep, the fairy rake-scatterer comes and carefully resets all the rakes

    🧚‍♀️😊

    Better order some more. Container’s almost out.

    This time I’ll buy American. Dearer, but re-usable.

  108. MatrixTransform

    looks like his adHommerator is on the blink as well.

    What are you doing about Global Warming today ?

    C’mon, don’t just fire off a virtue-volley … lead by example

  109. Cassie of Sydney

    I agree that if being a grub was a crime, men like Clinton and Shorten would have been locked up years ago.
    I agree that having said that, being a grub is an actual crime when said grub commits sexual assault.
    I agree that when the President of the country admits doing it routinely, there are laws against that kind of thing in the USA…..very routinely….and there doesn’t seem to be much doubt about that…..Juanita Broadrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Leslie Millwee.

    https://www.thecut.com/2019/11/ronan-farrow-bill-clinton-rape-allegation-juanita-broaddrick.html

  110. mh

    Bernie Sanders has responded to Hillary Clinton’s claim that “nobody likes him”, saying: “On a good day, my wife likes me, so let’s clear the air on that one.”

    He may be a commo like Numbers, but Bernie is occasionally funny.

  111. Cassie of Sydney

    “He’s actually universally loathed, especially in Australia.”

    He just can’t help speaking about himself again and again and again……..the racist really needs help…a lot of help.

  112. Eyrie

    Struth: “Now was it three Communist Chinese that just died fighting our bushfires?

    They own most of the country, near all our politicians, what did they send?”

    Corona virus.

  113. Tom

    Since when is the USA a bastion of freedom?

    Only communist totalitarians — especially communist totalitarians — can’t see that.

    It has taken Trump three years to begin closing the USA’s open borders to stop thousands of economic migrants a month trying to break into the place illegally, bypassing the asylum system.

    There is no queue of people trying to break into the totalitarian hellhole of communist China, which locks up political dissidents and spies on the entire population.

    Oh, and Vietnam is a mirror image of communist China.

  114. struth

    Were the govt to agree with the latest socialist agenda of allowing climate change to become a reason for refugees to claim asylum and starting taking in people in large number maybe Australians would stand up but maybe not. On top of that most people think on the U.N. as the chief broker of peace and civilisation in the world, which is as far from the true as possible.

    I note that we were just about to sign up, without consulting one voter, to handing our sovereignty over to the UN with regards to who gets to come here.
    They were going to decide who and how many………………………..
    That’s basically our nation gone.

    Skynews, no other outlet, found out about it, I do believe it was Credlin, and put it to air.
    Australians apparently went ape shit about it.
    It was quickly canned [until they can sneak it in some time in the future].
    This was under a Sco Mo government.
    Since going free to air into regional areas, they’re being watched by millions more Aussies than ever before, and they are the right sort of Aussies.
    Not a new immigrant sitting on a train in inner Sydney playing on their phone, but the nation of quiet conservatives, the people of the regional areas.
    These people have nothing but the internet or left wing MSM and the ABC previously.
    The internet was helping, but Sky news is brilliant.
    That’s why the left are spitting their venom at it.

    Once those semi political Aussies work out it’s not the Australian Greens that are really screwing them, but foreign socialist powers like the U.N, they will start asking what the hell is going on, and they’ll be asking the traitors implementing it.

    As elections prove, we are still by far, the majority, and now, as the lights go out, the jobs disappear, and the bills go through the roof,………………………..let those Australians know why.

    Once Skynews does that, once Australians correctly identify the real enemy, hiding itself for years now, then it’s game on.

  115. Geriatric Mayfly

    There is no queue of people trying to break into the totalitarian hellhole of communist China,

    Much better welfare and many more handouts in Venezuela; so that’s where they all are, kicking the doors down to get in.

  116. struth

    He’s actually universally loathed by the media, especially in Australia.

    he he

  117. Old Lefty

    ABC ‘news’ is atrocious enough in content these days, but its standards in editorial style are plummeting as aell;:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-24/brexit-bill-becomes-law-after-royal-assent/11896110

    The headline reads ‘the Queen’s Royal Assent. What other kind of royal assent is there?

  118. Old School Conservative

    nobody outside the US, and a majority of Americans would not follow him anywhere.

    Better make sure you pay someone to check your English before you submit your thesis numbers.

  119. Old School Conservative

    being a grub is an actual crime when said grub commits sexual assault.

    Major logic fail.
    I assume you already knew that numbers, it’s just that Albo and Shorten haven’t sent their daily talking points to you yet.

  120. Geriatric Mayfly

    Plod Cornelius is now seated and rarin’ to go.

  121. Geriatric Mayfly

    First surprise, ‘I don’t recall,’ for today.

  122. Cassie of Sydney

    Oh yes…I forget to mention the name of Luke Foley…a grub who their ABC and various media outlets covered up for.

  123. lotocoti

    Anyone happen to know when without exception was deleted from
    the Pedants’ Compendium of Pedantry’s definition of universally?

  124. rickw

    ‘Chinese market at centre of coronavirus’

    Told you.

    That specialised in exotic animal meat. To quote Chris from China Uncensored: “What could possibly go wrong?”.

  125. struth

    Sco Mo is such a lying arse it’s embarrassing.
    He knows exactly why the bush has not been cleared or back burned.
    He knows exactly why people are being fined for clearing their lands.
    He knows it is due to UN compliance by traitors in his ranks.
    He knows that not ending the compliance makes him an accomplice to the deaths of Australians.
    All in government, at all levels, who have worked on implementing the UN agendas , even those who let it happen and did not oppose it, are traitors and accomplices, and indeed have blood and burned flesh on their hands.

    The left dribble on about the coal power causing this and Sco Mo being to blame for the deaths……………..insanely of course, and right in line with the UN agenda for Australia.
    Global warming propaganda pushed by the UN and it’s western destruction Agendas, fuelled those fires.
    Those that allowed it, or indeed implemented it, do have some questions to answer.

    So then, as pure distraction theatre and to appear ignorant of all this, he calls for a RC.

  126. rickw

    Mutant goat born with human-like face will be ‘worshipped as an avatar of God’ in India: report

    If enough goats get shagged in a country, then sooner or later this is gunna happen.

  127. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    He’s actually universally loathed, especially in Australia.

    I like him, that settles that then. and numbers is not very smart is he

  128. Shy Ted

    Hey Rambob, seems it pays to be a Trump supporter and behave like a gentleman.
    And think of all that sweet, sweet, I mean, think of all those nice young ladies who will find him suddenly irresistible. He could buy Toowoomba with all those $$$$$US. Doubt he’ll choose to be a bitter old man but.

  129. Steven Mnuchin takes jab at Greta Thunberg, …
    Mutant goat born with human-like face will be ‘worshipped as an avatar of God’
    If enough goats get shagged in a country, then sooner or later this is gunna happen.

    My browser is joining posts.

  130. Arky

    Extremists (like those who post here), are the exception, of course.

    ..
    wang dang a bwah bwah.
    wang wang a dang
    wang dang a bwah bwah bwah

  131. Geriatric Mayfly

    That specialised in exotic animal meat. “What could possibly go wrong?”

    Throw another monkey on the barbie. Oops! Gas has run out. Ebola virus chirps up, ‘Waste not want not. ‘

  132. calli

    Lol. Now I have the perfect “cool grannie” comeback.

    What do you do all day, nanna?

    I’m an Extremist. Take that, eco-activists!

  133. Arky

    walking around Christchurch.
    These people haven’t changed.
    Now I remember why I left this fucking place.
    Even bloody Australians are better than these tards.
    This is what a place would be like if inhabited by humourless mongs like wang.

  134. Old School Conservative

    Thank you Struth for your on-going commentary about our Constitution and also Agenda 21.

    Before I started reading the Cat, I assumed “Agenda 21” was the name of a stupid conspiracy theory that only nut jobs believed. That impression was fuelled by misleading articles in the MSM.

    I’ll bet very few Australians know of the UN’s desire to take the whole world to a minimalist existence.

  135. Arky

    Dreadlocks.
    Who’s still wearing dreads in 2020 fer foockssake.

  136. max

    ‘Chinese market at centre of coronavirus’

    Told you.

    Market, you reckon ? I think we might be told a bullshit story to hide this:

    The Wuhan lab cost 300 million yuan (US$44 million), and to allay safety concerns it was built far above the flood plain and with the capacity to withstand a magnitude-7 earthquake, although the area has no history of strong earthquakes. It will focus on the control of emerging diseases, store purified viruses and act as a World Health Organization ‘reference laboratory’ linked to similar labs around the world. “It will be a key node in the global biosafety-lab network,” says lab director Yuan Zhiming.

    The Chinese Academy of Sciences approved the construction of a BSL-4 laboratory in 2003, and the epidemic of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) around the same time lent the project momentum. The lab was designed and constructed with French assistance as part of a 2004 cooperative agreement on the prevention and control of emerging infectious diseases. But the complexity of the project, China’s lack of experience, difficulty in maintaining funding and long government approval procedures meant that construction wasn’t finished until the end of 2014.

    The lab’s first project will be to study the BSL-3 pathogen that causes Crimean–Congo haemorrhagic fever: a deadly tick-borne virus that affects livestock across the world, including in northwest China, and that can jump to people.

    Future plans include studying the pathogen that causes SARS, which also doesn’t require a BSL-4 lab, before moving on to Ebola and the West African Lassa virus,

    Worries surround the Chinese lab. The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times, notes Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey.

    Below we repost the full Nature article because it strongly hints, without evidence for now, that the coronavirus epidemic may well have been a weaponized virus which “accidentally” escaped the Wuhan biohazard facility.

  137. Arky

    Give it to the Chinese already.
    And clear these awful people out.

  138. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Even bloody Australians are better than these tards.

    I’m sorry, Archibald, would you mind repeating that?

  139. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #3300722, posted on January 24, 2020 at 10:16 am

    walking around Christchurch.
    These people haven’t changed.
    Now I remember why I left this fucking place.
    Even bloody Australians are better than these tards.
    This is what a place would be like if inhabited by humourless mongs like wang.

    Miserable fun-stopping Scottish Presbyterian bloodlines.

  140. Mater

    walking around Christchurch.
    These people haven’t changed.
    Now I remember why I left this fucking place.

    Arky,
    Do they recognise you as a local by your small, wide, hairy feet?

  141. stackja

    Tom
    #3300576, posted on January 24, 2020 at 4:23 am
    Chip Bok.

    Regarding Virginia and guns. If Dems had ruled no guns in Virginia in 1861. CSA would have probably lost First Battle of Bull Run. Richmond would have probably fallen soon after, ending The Civil War.

  142. Arky

    Miserable fun-stopping Scottish Presbyterian bloodlines.

    ..
    Fraid so.
    Almost as bad as the bleeding Cornish derived weirdos that settled in Bendigo.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #3300701, posted on January 24, 2020 at 9:57 am

    Plod Cornelius is now seated and rarin’ to go.

    The forklift managed to load him into the reinforced witness box?

  144. Mater

    Bob,
    Have you corrected your reference to “a Squadron of Raptors” in your blog post yet?
    Your reputation as a “Purveyor of Truth” and an SME on military matters might be at risk if you don’t hop to it.

  145. Arky

    Gotta go and see mother.
    Wonderful.
    Wandering around her nursing home and saying in a loud voice how much she despises “these people” waving her hand around in a broad arc to encompass everyone in earshot.
    It’s a wonder I turned out to be so accepting of all folks no matter how shit they are.

  146. Infidel Tiger

    Boris Johnson
    @BorisJohnson
    The Withdrawal Agreement has received Royal Assent and is now law. We will leave the EU on January 31st 🇬🇧

  147. Shy Ted

    We’re too far down the road, struth. All you can do is protect your little lot and plan for the future. The tough, older generation will survive a lot better than the supermarket mob when the SHTF.

  148. Delta A

    The Withdrawal Agreement has received Royal Assent and is now law. We will leave the EU on January 31st

    IT, if you hadn’t mentioned the Brexit agreement yesterday I wouldn’t have known anything about it. The Australian MSM is remarkably mute on the topic.

  149. Callie:

    Lol. Now I have the perfect “cool grannie” comeback:

    What do you do all day, nanna?
    I’m an Extremist. Take that, eco-activists!

    Another:
    “I make baskets all day.”
    “What are the baskets for, Grannie?
    “To put heads in. From the guillotine. After the revolution. I’m an extremist Grannie, ecoactivists.”

  150. Arky

    Cornish derived weirdos that settled in Bendigo.

    ..
    Sitting in the gutters and scoffing down their cornish pasties and chips with gravy.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3300741, posted on January 24, 2020 at 10:29 am

    Boris Johnson
    @BorisJohnson
    The Withdrawal Agreement has received Royal Assent and is now law. We will leave the EU on January 31st 

    What is going to be great now if someone can put together a montage of “business as usual” economic and employment stats with the Chicken Little Remoaner doom prophecies.

  152. Infidel Tiger

    Possible coronavirus case under investigation by NSW Health after flight from Wuhan arrives in Sydney

    Complete and total travel ban.

    I would also suggest quarantining all chinks. Unlikely to get the go ahead but a righteous society would do it.

  153. vr

    Is this you commenting in the WSJ, IT?

    Tokyo, Singapore, NYC, SF, London, even India with higher density in Delhi and Mumbai do not get these infections. These are almost always out of China or SouthEast China region.

    Why? Because they eat every animal that moves and the standards for cleanliness and hygiene are awful. This virus’ origin is from snakes (!!), which the Chinese eat! Go figure. Talk about a Kosher diet, this is as anti-kosher as one can be.

  154. Boambee John

    go down the Israeli track when it comes to defence policy and industrial infrastructure.

    Nuclear wespons? That is the ultimate Isr aeli fallback.

  155. I find the AFP decision hard to accept. If a grant or competition prize specifies the applicant must fit certain criteria such as Aboriginality then obtaining it by deception is surely an offence. I guess much depends on each occasion and how the criteria are laid out. I presume the applicant has to complete an application form and false completion of that would constitute the offence in relation to where it occurred.

    I doubt any such offence falls within the role of AFP by virtue of the location or victim of offence (the organisation). Whilst they may have apparently cleared Pascoe aren’t the potential offences State offences ?

    This has been decided based on PC matters rather than legal.

    “No commonwealth offence has been identified. The AFP has now finalised this matter.”

  156. Helen

    Dillo, saw Bear Grillis eat a skunk, has to be worse than a fox. No-one seems to eat cat either.

    How come there are no kitties around Chinese restaurants? Just like rabbit, just like chicken.

    Kitties are highly prized by indigenous when I was supplying the local butcher with rabbit at 60 cents a body ($1.20 a pair), the local coppers told me they supplied cat to the local dinginess for $20.00 a pop.

  157. Boambee John

    They have one of the highest incarceration rates on the planet.

    Which, unlike his Demorat predecessor, he has taken steps to reduce. Another rake!

  158. calli

    “I make baskets all day.”

    I can actually do that. And…I knit really fast.

    A natural when the time comes.

  159. Infidel Tiger

    No VR, but I approve of the message.

    Leviticus is a very good guide for health.

  160. Infidel Tiger

    Tokyo, Singapore, NYC, SF, London, even India with higher density in Delhi and Mumbai do not get these infections. These are almost always out of China or SouthEast China region.

    Having San Fran in that list is a disgrace.

    There is more poop on the streets in SF than all of India and India at least is endeavouring to do something about it.

  161. stackja

    A water main has burst in North Sydney, causing a mass evacuation
    The Daily Telegraph
    January 24, 2020 5:07am
    Subscriber only

    A large water main burst in North Sydney has prompted the evacuation of up to 600 people from a nearby office block.

    The main burst on Mount Street about 9.30am, causing major flooding to the road and the office building’s basement.

    Office workers were evacuated by Fire and Rescue NSW due to the presence of electrical equipment in the basement, and two fire crews are on the scene.

    Meanwhile Sydney water restrictions are in force.

  162. For those interested in NFL or crime / trial matters I recommend the Netflix doco about Patriots star Aaron Fernandez.

    Was put on trial in two murder cases and committed suicide in jail. He had a troubled childhood to say the least and clearly had not been a CSI TV show watcher as he was not good at covering up his crimes. Not the sort of guy to upset in a bar.

    Drug use, paranoia, sexuality issues, bad parents (glossed over a bit but Wiki has more details), criminal associates, teams overlooking his problems etc.

  163. Cassie of Sydney

    “Infidel Tiger
    #3300759, posted on January 24, 2020 at 10:51 am
    No VR, but I approve of the message.

    Leviticus is a very good guide for health.”

    Yes…good for health…and punishment too.

  164. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “No commonwealth offence has been identified. The AFP has now finalised this matter.”

    how exactly short of a dna test, which one presumes wasn’t done, did they establish his aboriginality?

  165. candy

    I can actually do that. And…I knit really fast.
    A natural when the time comes.

    I admire the skill, calli. I’ve tried in the past but every garment gets bigger and bigger and I seem to add more and more stitches and the thing looks wonky and ridiculous. And then unaccountably drop a whole bunch, just gone. You will have to be definitely in charge of the head baskets come the revolution.

  166. Cardimona

    Saab: Sick and always broken
    Rover: Requires often very expensive repairs

    Holden Torana: Horrible oil leaks dreadful engine noises Ton of rust and no acceleration

    Any I was a proud Torana owner – after I’d fixed the rust and replaced all the mechanicals with go-fast bits.

  167. candy

    how exactly short of a dna test, which one presumes wasn’t done, did they establish his aboriginality?

    Maybe if he’s lying about his background or extremely deluded, writing a book like that with its ridiculous scenarios of indigenous villages and well tended crops and water agricultural systems is still not a crime? It can’t be proved or disproved.
    People write all sorts or rubbish about the past and the future pretending they have special knowledge.

  168. stackja

    Rover: Requires often very expensive repairs

    I read somewhere a Land Rover just needed a sapling for a broken spring.

  169. feelthebern

    “No commonwealth offence has been identified. The AFP has now finalised this matter.”

    Whoa, slow down AFP.
    World’s quickest investigation.
    Why didn’t they do a VicPol:
    1) Put ads in the paper;
    2) Speak to Pascoe’s lawyer to get privileged information.

  170. No commonwealth offence has been identified.

    “Obtaining financial advantage by deception” (or similar), I was sure was in various state crimes acts.

    The problem (I was told) was proving the intention to deceive.

  171. Where are the lawyers who know this stuff?

  172. feelthebern

    The world is in a bad place.
    Assange still locked up (not a peep from all the David Hicks-philes).
    Snowden is hiding out in Russia for exposing the biggest scandal in American history.
    Glenn Greenwald being charged with “cyber crimes” in Brazil & only Tulsi & Tucker seem to be the only people defending him.

  173. Old School Conservative

    Struth’s link to the news.com piece on Agenda 21 certainly makes clear that the conspiracy is called Agenda 21.
    Fake news.

  174. feelthebern

    Brett, the Aaron Hernandez doco was ok.
    They needed to focus more on his mother – what a total bitch.

  175. Why didn’t they do a VicPol:
    1) Put ads in the paper;
    2) Speak to Pascoe’s lawyer to get privileged information.

    You forgot the initial steps:

    Before proceeding check:
    . Not a SLF
    . Not a friend of Dan
    . Not related to Dan
    . Not a friend of the ABC
    . Not a copper

  176. Narwhal Tusk

    What’s with the Bendigo bashing I see above?
    Unless you’re talking about Bong Gully.

  177. Infidel Tiger

    Glenn Greenwald being charged with “cyber crimes” in Brazil & only Tulsi & Tucker seem to be the only people defending him.

    I fisagree with Tucker for once

    The more I read about Greenwald’s crimes the more I believe he must be locked up.

  178. cohenite

    If being a grub was a crime, Trump would have been locked up years ago.

    Trump is not a grub; he is all class; the swine of the left don’t like being called out for the treasonous, destructive, useless bastards they are. Trump has called them out, the parasite class who not only bludge off the Western system but actively seek to constrain any rights to the punters.

    The twat troll is one of these parasites. So naturally it projects it’s own values onto Trump and other people confronting them.

    Now, fuck off and die you old bastard.

  179. Boambee John:

    Nuclear wespons? That is the ultimate Isr aeli fallback.

    Damn straight. We should about a thousand of the crackers – only to be used as a last resort – like another Chinese national with a fever arriving having said they were infection free.
    Boom! No more flights out of Wuhan.
    OK – we need a 1 Gigaton warhead for that size a target. Seems like a good intermediate yield, you wouldn’t want to go overboard, now.

  180. jupes

    The AFP said Pascoe’s “Aboriginality was not relevant in determining whether a Commonwealth offence had been committed” and so those inquiries had not been undertaken.

    Wow. The claim was that he gained money by fraudulently claiming to be an Abo. But now apparently Aboriginality is not relevant. How the fuck does that work?

    Maybe they didn’t have the manpower to investigate Pascoe, as they have sent all those investigators in Afghanistan asking the Taliban to help them prosecute Australian soldiers.

  181. struth

    Somebody needs to tell the kiddies in MSM that to have a conspiracy theory there first needs to be a deception.
    Our pollies might be into talking about it, but the UN makes it plain, and says it straight out.

  182. Arky

    What’s with the Bendigo bashing I see above?

    ..
    Say “Pall Mall”.

  183. struth

    The AFP said Pascoe’s “Aboriginality was not relevant in determining whether a Commonwealth offence had been committed” and so those inquiries had not been undertaken.

    The blatant corruption and arrogance of government as a country slides into socialist Venezuela……………………..

  184. jupes

    Assange still locked up …

    Good. I would have shot the traitorous prick.

    Snowden is hiding out in Russia for exposing the biggest scandal in American history.

    The “hiding in Russia” speaks to the type of traitorous arsehole Snowden is. There are a lot of ways to fight the deep state without running to China and Russia.

  185. Arky

    “Pell Mel”
    No, Pall Mall.

  186. Answer the question.
    Is the AFP the most politicized police force in AU?

    Worse than Vikpol ?

    Tough question.

    How about the corruption question?

  187. Arky

    Say “All”.
    “All”.
    Great, now say: Mall”.
    “Mel”.
    No, no, no. No.”Mall”.
    “Mel”.
    Arrrrrrrfghhh.

  188. Shy Ted

    I just got home from work early and found the missus on a porn site. She’d better have a bloody good explanation when she gets home!

  189. 8th Dan

    The Withdrawal Agreement has received Royal Assent and is now law. We will leave the EU on January 31st

    IT, if you hadn’t mentioned the Brexit agreement yesterday I wouldn’t have known anything about it. The Australian MSM is remarkably mute on the topic.

    ABC Brexit Articles

    Today … yesterday … and before.

  190. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wow. The claim was that he gained money by fraudulently claiming to be an Abo. But now apparently Aboriginality is not relevant. How the fuck does that work?

    Riddle me this one, legal Cats. When Australia signs treaties with each of the five hundred or so “First Nations” – treaties which will , no doubt, involve the payment of massive sums of “compensation” and “reparations” , one’s word that one is of Aboriginal ancestry will be sufficient to claim payment of said “compensation” and “reparations?” No actual proof required?

  191. Don’t understand this point. He would presumably know his parents and grandparents were not Aboriginal and had apparently previously said looking for evidence of his Aboriginal ancestors which had eluded him.

    I think he has at various times claimed to be related to 4 or 5 Aboriginal groups, from different states, and wouldn’t that involve more than one Aboriginal ancestor ?

    Or are we now basing Aboriginality on merely claiming to be. This seems to be satisfactory for Ken Wyatt who accepts he is despite Pascoes family tree being documented as not having any Aboriginals in it. This has very serious implications for all sorts of Government, University, employment benefits or advantages. Even more so if we are going down the treaty, reconciliation and compensation road.

    I guess we are now at the point where it is racist to query anybodies claim of Aboriginality no matter how dubious. If any Govt wants to give away tax payers money as compensation for past wrong doings they need to resolve how they define Aboriginality.

    “The problem (I was told) was proving the intention to deceive”.

  192. feelthebern

    Considering we have the science to back up claims, I don’t understand why a DNA test isn’t required to qualify for indigenous based grants & benefits.

  193. feelthebern

    Considering the science is settled, why are there still DNA deniers?

  194. Narwhal Tusk

    Pawl Mawl.
    Bendigo is a lovely place.
    Gentlemen who don’t have sex in Corollas live there.
    Minis maybe.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I think he has at various times claimed to be related to 4 or 5 Aboriginal groups, from different states, and wouldn’t that involve more than one Aboriginal ancestor ?

    All of whom have denied any such ancestry.

  196. Roger

    Considering we have the science to back up claims, I don’t understand why a DNA test isn’t required to qualify for indigenous based grants & benefits.

    I don’t understand why we have indigenous based grants and benefits.

  197. Top Ender

    Pascoe’s alleged offences are probably more:

    a) civil – someone could take him on saying they were deprived of a prize/whatever by him due to a false claim by him, or

    b) criminal – alleged fraud through claiming state/territory monies reserved for Aboriginals only (I know, don’t get me started)

    I reckon a lot of damage has been done though to the Pascoe Gravy Train due to the publicity. Nevertheless, there are the Woke people out there who are so against the present societal structure it would not matter if Pascoe was Ghengis Khan reincarnated. So long as he’s agin capitalism/patriarchy/white people they’ll support him.

    We know a couple like that. It doesn’t matter how logical you are, pointing out fallacies in climate change/Donald-ScoMo-Boris rejection/aboriginal industry stuff – they are “radicals” who want to tear it all down and rebuild it.

    Someone here pointed out on this thread these people are idiots, with their Year Zero/rebuild from there vision. They don’t realise they would be swept up in the mincing machine.

    The couple we know are very well off; children to the best schools; holiday house etc etc. Under the new regime they’d be driving a VW knock-off; wearing grey clothes, and calling everyone Comrade – or else. It’s the only way they’d learn of their stupidity, as they can’t be bothered reading Solzhenitsyn, and they don’t realise they’re advocating for Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot to be resurrected.

  198. candy

    one’s word that one is of Aboriginal ancestry will be sufficient to claim payment of said “compensation” and “reparations?” No actual proof required?

    But that would be outlandish, and politically stupid. The government just asking to be conned.

    Writing a book though based on chats with friends and relatives’ stories from the past and simply just imagined scenarios might sell or not. Unless he had a grant from the government based on being an indig. Otherwise it’s just some private venture?

  199. Considering the science is settled, why are there still DNA deniers?

    Bone marrow donors?

  200. stackja

    Sydney on blackout watch, people told to close windows and doors, turn off non-essential
    In the largest city in a country with 300 years of coal left, yesterday the government asked a few million people to pull down the blinds on a midsummers day, to turn off the pool pumps, and not run the dishwasher from 4 – 8pm if they could avoid it. It was 42 degrees C.

    Remember the good old days when the nation could afford to run the air con? Here in metropolis Australia, some days it’s better to bunker down in a few dark rooms with the air con at survival mode.

    Welcome to Renewable World. What’s wrong with all those solar panels? Between dust storms and bushfires and the hail in Canberra, possibly they are covered in dust or soot, or perhaps, holes.

    Imagine how much productive brain power is being consumed. The whole nation (almost) is becoming involved in management of the hypercomplex random generation network. As well as all those poles and wires and control rooms, we now need radio and twitter to send messages to the serfs to open and close windows, change their work schedules, or run out and click the pool pump off.

    Jo Nova

  201. feelthebern

    How are the Dems going to steal the nomination from Bernie this time?

  202. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #3300814, posted on January 24, 2020 at 11:42 am

    Great post Top Ender.

  203. mh

    Breitbart

    The New York Times, citing Chinese officials, reported that the cities of Huanggang, Ezhou, Chibi, and Zhijiang joined Wuhan in having all trains into or out of the cities canceled and other travel restrictions imposed; most of the new restrictions took effect at midnight local time. The new travel limitations now affect about 20 million people living in the greater Wuhan area; Wuhan is the regional capital of Hubei province.

  204. Top Ender

    Scroll down to Awards in Pascoe’s Wiki entry.

    He’s been on the game since 1999.

  205. Roger

    Someone here pointed out on this thread these people are idiots…

    Useful idiots.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Unless he had a grant from the government based on being an indig.

    He was awarded a prize, as an indigenous author.

  207. Mater

    What’s with the Bendigo bashing I see above?
    Unless you’re talking about Bong Gully.

    Q: What’s the definition of confusion?
    A: Fathers Day in Eaglehawk.

  208. stackja

    candy
    #3300817, posted on January 24, 2020 at 11:44 am

    We have collated, using information from the public domain, a list of estimated Income, Awards, Grants, and Funding received by Professor Bruce Pascoe,

    1. GRANT = $25,263 on about 11/1/2019 from the Australian Government – Small Farms Round 2. To Pascoe Publishing Pty Ltd, with Bruce Pascoe as Director for, “Black Duck Foods is a company that has been established to support the inclusion of indigenous Australians in the production of native food. The company is based at Black Duck Farm which on is situated on the Wallagraugh River in ‘Yuin Country’. The property is owned and run by Bruce Pascoe, a Yuin man

  209. Boambee John

    Perhaps the indigenous issue could be readily fixed by amending “accepted by an aboriginal community” to “accepted by and fully initiated into an aboriginal community”

    The prospect of being whistlecocked might cause some to pause for thought. Is there a female equivalent?

  210. Cassie of Sydney

    From The Australian…

    Coronavirus: Scientists examining virus outbreak suspect it was passed to humans from snakes

    Scientists examining the new coronavirus suspect that it was passed on to humans from snakes or badgers that were sold at a market in Wuhan.
    Scientists examining the new coronavirus suspect that it was passed on to humans from snakes that were sold at a market in the city where the outbreak began.
    Zhong Nanshan, a Chinese government medical adviser, also identified badgers and rats as possible sources.
    Beijing health officials warned that the deadly virus could mutate and spread rther.
    The suspicions were expressed as five Chinese cities were quarantined in an unprecedented move to try to stem the outbreak.
    Beijing gave the order to close Wuhan, where the virus was first identified, on Wednesday night, blocking its 11 million residents from leaving. They were given just a few hours’ notice. During the course of yesterday four more cities were locked down, with airports, railways and roads shut. At least 18 people have died of the virus since it broke out in December.
    The neighbouring city of Huanggang was locked down from midnight yesterday, while in Ezhou train stations were closed. The two other towns of Xiantao and Chibi closed a main highway and suspended public transport. All five are in the same province, Hubei.
    The Wuhan Health Commission said that there were long queues at fever treatment centres, as well as a “tight situation” in terms of beds available. It said that seven hospitals were being “fully utilised” with 3000 beds set aside to treat suspected and confirmed cases. The Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University issued an appeal to alumni for donations of masks and protective clothing.
    Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, said: “We don’t want to overstate the panic because there is so much uncertainty. We want to keep a sort of calm, moderated approach to it, but we do have to take this incredibly seriously because you don’t often get an animal virus coming into humans, passing between humans and being spread by the respiratory route.”
    There has been a rush on food supplies in Wuhan, Hubei.
    Beijing said it had contacted a Chinese woman from Wuhan who had flown to France exhibiting symptoms and urged her to go to hospital.
    It is the first time in the modern history of epidemics that a government has attempted to isolate an entire city, and two days before the lunar new year, when hundreds of millions of Chinese people travel across the country and the world to be with their families.
    Beijing’s Palace Museum — known as the Forbidden City — is to be closed to tourists from Saturday in an attempt to stop the spread of infection. The Beijing authorities have also cancelled large new year events such as temple fairs. Last year about 1.4 million holidaymakers attended the fairs.
    Wuhan has 60 international air connections, including direct flights to London, New York, Paris, San Francisco and Sydney, as well as more than a hundred domestic destinations.
    Travellers flying into Britain from Wuhan just before the quarantine were screened for signs of illness.
    Cases of coronavirus, which is from the same family of viruses that gave rise to the deadly outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (Sars) that raged in China between 2002 and 2003, have been confirmed in the US, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Thailand. The patients were either residents of Wuhan or recent visitors to the city. Singapore and Vietnam confirmed cases yesterday.
    Chinese state media said that among those suspected of being infected was Wang Guangfa, a doctor who went to Wuhan with a team of experts to investigate the virus.
    Gao Fu, the head of the Chinese Centre for Disease Control, said that the coronavirus would continue to develop. “It has developed different features compared with the early stage, and the prevention and precautionary measures need to change accordingly,” he said. Mr Gao said that officials were working on the assumption that the outbreak resulted from exposure to wild animals sold illegally at a food market in Wuhan and that the virus was mutating, which could make it spread faster or make people who acquired it sicker. In more severe cases it can cause pneumonia and breathing difficulties.
    The largest number of infections outside China has been in Thailand. Anutin Charnvirakul, Thailand’s public health minister, insisted that no secondary infection had taken place in his country, saying: “We checked all of them: taxi drivers, people who wheeled the wheelchairs for the patients, doctors and nurses.”
    Hong Kong confirmed two cases on Wednesday, including a man who had arrived from mainland China on a high-speed train. It has designated two holiday camps as quarantine zones for those suspected of having been exposed.
    Cathay Pacific Airways in Hong Kong announced that it would allow flight crew to wear surgical masks while flying within mainland China.
    In Macau, another semi-autonomous city, authorities have cancelled new year events.
    People queued outside pharmacies in Wuhan to buy masks, but sales were limited to one package per customer. Staff in protective suits could be seen carrying supplies and stretchers into the Wuhan treatment centre.
    Compared with the prolonged cover-up of the Sars outbreak, the authorities have been relatively open about the epidemic. There are suspicions, however, that there are many more cases of the coronavirus than the official tally.
    Gilead Sciences, a drug company, said yesterday (Thursday) that it was examining whether its experimental ebola treatment could be used to treat the coronavirus.
    “Gilead is in active discussions with researchers and clinicians in the United States and China regarding the ongoing Wuhan coronavirus outbreak and the potential use of remdesivir as an investigational treatment,” a company spokesman said in an emailed statement.
    A butcher sells a yak’s head to a customer at a market in Beijing.
    Tom Whipple reports: Viruses have one goal: to reproduce. And they don’t generally care where they do it. They can do it in bats, they can do it in humans, they can do it in snakes – and it’s even better, from their point of view, if they can do it in all three.
    Jumping the species barrier, however, as happened with the coronavirus, is difficult — especially so if, as some scientists now believe, the last host is a distantly related species like a snake. To successfully live in one species you have to find a way to evade its immune system, to hijack its cells to your own ends and then also find ways to make that species spread you — through sneezing, or sex or some other method. This means that diseases are often very well adapted to one host.
    However, diseases also reproduce rapidly, which means they can evolve rapidly. All it takes is a few mutations that are advantageous (again, very much from the point of view of a virus), and a disease can find a home in a new species. A few more mutations, and it can use this foothold to become successful and spread.
    To make such a sequence of beneficial mutations is extremely unlikely for one virus but becomes a lot more likely when you realise there are trillions of them.
    This is why many human diseases originated in animals, with a whole new wave dating to the domestication of livestock. A bacterium, Yersinia pestis, lives in rodents largely unnoticed. When it started infecting humans as well it became something that we did notice: the Black Death.
    What is strange about the findings on the new coronavirus is that if the scientists doing the genetic analysis are correct, it probably spread first from bats, then into snakes – an animal with a physiology very different from bats – then into humans.
    It is one thing to catch a disease from a primate, or even a rat – both are mammals. It is quite another to catch one from a cold-blooded reptile whose last common ancestor with us lived some 300 million years ago.

  211. Mitch M.

    feelthebern
    #3300808, posted on January 24, 2020 at 11:35 am
    Considering we have the science to back up claims, I don’t understand why a DNA test isn’t required to qualify for indigenous based grants & benefits.

    If they nailed Pascoe a flood of potential frauds will be need to be investigated. Australia will be labelled with another pejorative pertaining to how evilly racist we are, so the AFP have left it alone possibly through “persuasion” from politicians.

    I’m not concerned about his indigenous status. In a moment of curiousity last week I decided to look at Google play because I thought it was for gaming. It’s for books and movies. Under the “Top Seller Under $10” listing the first one to appear last week and just now is Dark Emu. We’re effed.

    Going after Pascoe on the basis of his heritage is a tactical mistake because we can’t make the final determination and I’m not even sure a DNA test can do that. Even if a DNA test is definitive we can’t demand it and perhaps the AFP can’t demand it. So all we can do is speculate. Go after the book, that we can fully access and critique.

  212. Roger

    Coronavirus: Scientists examining virus outbreak suspect it was passed to humans from snakes

    Whew! The whole bat soup is OK then.

  213. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Whew! The whole bat soup is OK then.

    the snakes ate the bats

  214. Geriatric Mayfly

    Whew! The whole bat soup is OK then.

    Number 34 with the crispy noodles thank you Gaçon.

  215. Roger

    Even if a DNA test is definitive we can’t demand it and perhaps the AFP can’t demand it.

    And due to the way the identity debate has been framed over the last several decades a DNA test alone – even if it could be compelled, which is unlikely – is not definitive of aboriginal identity. Recognition by members of an aboriginal community is also required. But there’s a problem there as well – members of aboriginal communities don’t always agree on who is in or out.

    The matter of indigenous identity is ‘complex’, as things oftren are when money is involved.

    Now, if grants and benefits were based on merit and need instead of race, as they should be in an eganitarian democracy, this complex problem would largely disappear. Which politician would try to unscramble that egg?

  216. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    chicom “official” toll, 850 infected, 25 dead.

  217. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Coronavirus patients transported in plastic boxes and tubes as doctors collapse in hospital
    A new video appears to show doctors collapsing in a hospital in China as the deadly coronavirus mutates and continues to spread.

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