Open Forum: January 25, 2020

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  1. feelthebern

    What’s the most smoked cigarette in Australia?
    I think I might grab a carton tomorrow.
    Plus a bunch of those 375mill Jim Beam’s.
    Good barter stash.

  2. JC

    feelthebern
    #3303174, posted on January 26, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    If times get really bad, my dog will eat the rice.
    She hates tuna.
    I’ll live off that.

    If times get really bad, the dog is not getting a thing. He’s already medically limited. The fucker is about 12 years old, which means lots of vet money could be needed to be spent on him. I told wifey he had $1,000 left on potential vet expenses. One cent beyond that and he’s going down. He’s now around $835 in credit.

  3. feelthebern

    That’s the ultimate stop-loss JC.

  4. Arky

    My mother will be the last surviving resident in that home after the coronavirus hits there.
    She hates everyone and doesn’t have anything to do with them.
    A flu bug went through there last winter and everyone got it but her.
    Taking her out to lunch yesterday we walked through the common room.
    Look at them! Just look at them”! She sneered cheerfully as we passed a bunch of the wrinkly inhabitants.
    Good Lord she is a horrible old thing.
    Then she started in on how fat and short I am, how badly the missus had done E’s hair and shaking her head at the sign in the garden saying: “This garden planted with love”.

  5. Fisky

    I wonder if our stupid prime minister STILL thinks we’re on track for a surplus?

  6. 8th Dan

    I’m sweltering in the middle of a sheep paddock awaiting the appearance of Sir Elton John

    Prima facie evidence of why you should be sectioned.

  7. JC

    Bern

    I’ve heard of people spending 5K a month on a pooch for chemo and other bullshit like that. One of wifey’s pals was just recently quoted 5k for an operation.

    Ours has 835 bucks left in credit. I hope he spends it wisely.

  8. Arky

    She likes gardens.
    It must be the love she found objectionable.

  9. feelthebern

    My view, if puppy in pain, puppy goes to sleep.

  10. Geriatric Mayfly

    Palace reaches out to Harry and Meghan
    Plans are devised amid fears media intrusion in North America may force them to return to the UK.

    Would it be rash of me to say that I am utterly confused?

  11. calli

    I think I like your mother, Arky.

  12. stackja

    Sydney tram and car collide.
    Police investigation of who at fault.

  13. feelthebern

    Sydney tram and car collide.
    Police investigation of who at fault.

    Odd’s on it was a new Australian, sober.
    Or an old Australian, drunk.

  14. Fisky

    Just Think Property
    @justthink1
    ·
    2m
    Replying to
    @justthink1
    BREAKING NEWS – Order from on high to all #WeChat users NOT TO POST ANYTHING re #coronavirus from the 26/Jan … you (group organiser) will be arrested the order says if post not sanctioned by authorities
    @AvidCommentator
    serious stuff & our gov planning to do what??

    Looks like the PRC authorities are not happy about some of these social media posts going up telling us about the situation on the ground. So they are banning people from talking about the virus at all.

    That will surely stop the virus in its tracks!

  15. Farmer Gez

    Photos with an elephant.
    The bloody elephant is more photogenic than I am, which is surprising as we’re both grey with a long trunk.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Music time.

    Morcheeba – Big Calm

    Dire Straits – Ride Across the River

    P.J. Harvey – The Whores Hustle and the Hustler’s Whore

  17. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    SM III’s Preparations for the collectivist imbecile chinaman contagious disease induced holocaust:

    Fresh bottles (1.25l) of water: 50
    Canned food: Shit loads
    Beer: About 8 slabs
    Vodka: 20 1.1. litre bottles
    Champagne: 14 Bottles
    Red Wine: 4 bottles
    Basic medical supplies: some band aids, painkillers, anti-biotics and cough lozenges

    We will emerge triumphantly from this manufactured emergency, peoples! 🙂

  18. Eyrie

    “Fuck Zippy.
    What happens when the robot infects the other robots.
    Skynet, that’s what.”

    The REAL problem will be when a computer virus becomes self porting to any operating system and then discovers human wetware is just another operating system. John Barnes had a series of novels based on this.

    I’m just reading his Timeline Wars series. I want a SHAKK. Others here would want one also.

  19. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I wonder if our stupid prime minister STILL thinks we’re on track for a surplus?

    When you exist in a bizarre parallel universe, anything is possible …

  20. Roger

    Lovely program on the Vicorian town of Koroit – which I’ve visited a number of times – on the ABC.

    A little piece of Ireland in Victoria. Even the ABC can’t spoil it.

  21. Zyconoclast

    What happens when this hits Africa?

    Anyone like to guess?

    It will be cool.
    After all their Wakadan anti-Ebola practice they will be able to show us how it’s done.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Those contacts will be called daily and actively monitored for signs of any illness.

    But they won’t be ‘isolated’? What if they are out and about in the asymptomatic incubation period? It will be good luck if none of them prove to be infected.

    I hope that at least they have been told to make themselves fairly scarce in public places for ten days and not go to work.

  23. DrBeauGan

    are you on prawnhub again???

    With Maria on WhatsApp, I never have a need for prawn. She keeps me fully supplied.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    The pressure is on the God Emperor now.
    Three cases in Orange County California!!!

  25. egg_

    Sydney tram and car collide.
    Police investigation of who at fault.

    Odd’s on it was a new Australian, sober.

    Tram computer – “fvck, third world driver… need the new chaotic driver update, pronto!”.

  26. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I think this is the video pooh bear is pissed about, as democracy and freedom are mentioned. this poor guy has a short life expectancy, he should pray the virus gets him first. turn on closed captions for translation

  27. egg_

    prawnhub

    Lobster hierarchy?

  28. stackja

    Liz – Isolation meant isolated in the past. Today we have Health Hazard Brad.

  29. Arky

    I think I like your mother, Arky

    ..
    It would make you an extremely rare critter if it was requited Calli, but it’s possible you might be one of the few people she would not refer to as a “Horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE person”.

  30. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    SM III’s Preparations for the collectivist imbecile chinaman contagious disease induced holocaust:

    Fresh bottles (1.25l) of water: 50
    Canned food: Shit loads
    Beer: About 8 slabs
    Vodka: 20 1.1. litre bottles
    Champagne: 14 Bottles
    Red Wine: 4 bottles
    Basic medical supplies: some band aids, painkillers, anti-biotics and cough lozenges

    I’m not seeing much single malt in that list…

  31. Geriatric Mayfly

    Lovely program on the Vicorian town of Koroit – A little piece of Ireland in Victoria. Even the ABC can’t spoil it.
    Probably long gone now (both) but the publican of Irish extraction had a cockatoo which did card tricks when called to the bar. Sucked me in as a callow yoof.

  32. Arky

    I just don’t understand how someone as warm and loveable as I was a product of this misanthrope.

  33. Roger

    Probably long gone now (both) but the publican of Irish extraction had a cockatoo which did card tricks when called to the bar. Sucked me in as a callow yoof.

    Yes, they had some old footage of him and the bird, GM.

    And an inteview with his sister – still living and back in town – who had a career in Europe in movies in which she overdubbed Gina Lollobrigida among others.

  34. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am thinking about that really nice Irishman in Wuhan who was speaking to Brit news about being in lock down. He was going to take a suitcase and go out soon, he said, and buy himself enough food to last for a fortnight. Good luck wit dat, says Hairy to me, getting sympathetically Irish. The shelves will be mostly empty and they won’t let him take too much anyway. Yesterday I tried to buy some more face masks, ready for any eventuality in our upcoming trip to Los Angeles and then a cruise through the Panama. Chemist laughed and said all chemists locally in Rose Bay had sold out long ago due to ‘pollution’. Huh? say I. The bushfires, sez he back. Oh. I see, I say. Now we’ve got this, he complains, and I can’t see when we can get any more.

    I don’t think they are much good unless you are in a frontline medical care job anyway.
    Or in a crowd on a cruise ship maybe. 🙁
    I did stock up on hand sanitation alcohol gel though. Always useful when travelling.

  35. Roger

    Chemist laughed and said all chemists locally in Rose Bay had sold out long ago due to ‘pollution’. Huh? say I. The bushfires, sez he back. Oh. I see, I say. Now we’ve got this, he complains, and I can’t see when we can get any more.

    So much for the ‘just in time’ supply chain.

  36. Mater

    8th Dan
    #3303191, posted on January 26, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    I’m sweltering in the middle of a sheep paddock awaiting the appearance of Sir Elton John

    Prima facie evidence of why you should be sectioned

    I’m in Victoria, so “Sectioned” would be appropriate.
    But not in NSW!
    Dickhead.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    More music:

    Tool – Ænima

    Steeleye Span – Thomas the Rhymer

    Gotye – Hearts A Mess

  38. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    one wonder’s what they are preping us for….there’s been some chatter that it’s airborne

    China says virus ability to spread getting stronger

  39. Fisky

    It now looks like local authorities are competing against each other to see who can take the toughest action against the virus.

    SHINE
    @shanghaidaily
    ·
    1m
    #Shanghai Education Commission has told all local schools, including kindergartens and nurseries, to remain closed until February 17 to prevent the spread of #coronavirus-related pneumonia.

  40. Geriatric Mayfly

    there’s been some chatter that it’s airborne

    ‘On the bat’s wing I shall fly…’
    Hey nonny, hey nonny, hey nonny ho.

  41. Fisky

    Danny Chen
    @happyintheair
    ·
    2m
    Shanghai has just announced the closure of their roads from other cities. Buses etc. aren’t going to be allowed in/out of the city. As far as I know flights are still operating.

    6% GDP!

  42. Police investigation of who at fault.

    Police report that they have no recollection of that incident.
    No diary was available.
    Simple Simon was unavailable to comment.

  43. Feelthe bern:

    Best to stock up on booze that can be traded with useful people like tradies.
    Easier for you to barter with some Jim Beam that some toff trying to barter with a bottle of plonk.

    Can you imagine it?
    JC: “Hi Mr Plumber. My toilets blocked from using old copies of the SMH for paper.”
    Plumber:”Maaate. That sounds expensive. Wot ‘ave yer got in trade, cos I don’t take cash.”
    JC; “I have a bottle of 24 yo Balvenie DCS Compendium 1961. It’s worth $45k a bottle.”
    P: “Maaate, it’s worth shit at the moment.”
    JC “Bloody ‘ell, the dunnies really ponging. Can you do us a favour?”
    P: “Oh, orright. Can ya chuck in a six pack of coke to mix it with?”

  44. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    links from video above
    Lab-Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate
    The creation of a chimeric SARS-like virus has scientists discussing the risks of gain-of-function research.

    Nov 16, 2015
    JEF AKST
    15.8K

    MERS coronavirus
    FLICKR, NIAID
    Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study on his team’s efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of to one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine.

    A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence

    Vineet D Menachery, Boyd L Yount Jr, Kari Debbink, Sudhakar Agnihothram, Lisa E Gralinski, Jessica A Plante, Rachel L Graham, Trevor Scobey, Xing-Yi Ge, Eric F Donaldson, Scott H Randell, Antonio Lanzavecchia, Wayne A Marasco, Zhengli-Li Shi & Ralph S Baric

  45. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Recently, Prof. Zhengli Shi and Xingyi Ge from WIV, in cooperation with researchers from University of North Carolina, Harvard Medical School, Bellinzona Institute of Microbiology and etc, examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, the scientists generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.

  46. johanna

    A fascinating insight into the growing trend for young girls with autism to be attracted to the trannie scene:

    Finally, perhaps the most important comment of all: ‘My 13-year-old autistic daughter is around other ASD [autism spectrum disorder] girls a lot. They all talk about asking for blockers as a way of stopping their periods and their bodies changing (because ASD kids can’t cope with change/transitions and there is no bigger transition than puberty). To be clear, she tells me that these girls don’t necessarily think they’re boys, but have rather perceptively worked out that saying they are trans is a golden ticket to stopping puberty. But they genuinely don’t understand what they are asking for. Autistic girls are the largest cohort affected by this, and no one is asking why.’

    The parents of these girls must be in hell. And, the self-serving, amoral, child-abusing leeches in the trans industry are putting them there. Not to mention spineless politicians and the rest of the medical profession. They are like the girls in Rotherham – sacrifices on the altar of political correctness.

    It makes me very angry, and I just don’t understand why the entire establishment is so keen to not only let it happen, but applaud it. One of the advocates got a gong today!

    Grrr! 🙁

  47. MatrixTransform

    Fuck head is back

  48. Feelthe bern:

    Cigarettes are possibly more valuable than toilet paper when it comes to a barter economy.

    I think it’s in “The Fourth and Richest Reich” just after the war and before the rationing and stuff got the size 9. A building company in Germany put in a quote for rebuild of a structure, and the price was in cartons of cigarettes. They had to redo the quote when head office in NY got it.
    But yes. Cigarettes, toilet paper, feminine hygiene products (There’s always a rich bloke with a bevy of sheilas, and you may not impress him, but the girlies will sure put in a good word for you.)
    The Romans used sea sponges for wiping, and I reckon there will be a bit of a call for alternatives. Make sure the girls know just what the alternative is, because as any married man will know, they use 90% of the date rolls you buy.

  49. Eyrie

    Winston, may be time for “Black Powder and Alcohol”

  50. JC:
    You may need a genset, but you can get by with a barbie – gas. Get ’em to throw in an extra 9kg bottle and that will last you a couple of weeks. Make sure the missus doesn’t get near the damn thing.
    Girls – apart from our worldly Catsheilas – have no idea on how to conserve the stuff for making coffee.
    The jug doesn’t need to boil for ten minutes, just roiling hot.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    Music.

    Led Zeppelin – Kashmir
    Thomas Dolby – The Key to Her Ferrari
    Single Gun Theory – The Sea of Core Experience

  52. MatrixTransform

    Ah… my favorite Thomas Dolby track!

  53. FTB:

    Parents should start thinking about ranking their children & having an acceptable loss ratio.
    This will save time if faced with the unthinkable at a later date.

    You always eat the youngest first. That’s a rule.
    Mainly because they have more subcutaneous fat, so you don’t want to wait too long before you put the Eid meat hook to use.
    A 100% loss ration is fine as long as the missus can keep pumping them out.

  54. feelthebern

    Jeez Winston
    I was going to say an acceptable loss ratio is between 25% & 30%.

  55. BrettW

    Never commented upon his Cuba trips before but always a first time.

    Pathetic.

    “With Maria on WhatsApp, I never have a need for prawn. She keeps me fully supplied.”

  56. Infidel Tiger

    Fuck me. At a bbq and a guy has brought vegan food because the planet is getting hot. He also brought 2 avocados.

  57. johanna

    Wow, Bruce, while I have listened to ‘She blinded me with science’ umpteen times, I’d never heard this track, which is great!

    C’mon, admit it, you feel an affinity with this fellow nerd. Do you know what happened to him?

  58. Tel

    The jug doesn’t need to boil for ten minutes, just roiling hot.

    Doesn’t need to be hot at all, cold brew coffee is easy but slow. Just mix ground coffee with clean water, shake vigorously and give time to brew in a cool place (preferably the fridge). Benefits from a filter but if you give it time to settle then carefully decanting off the top can work.

  59. Infidel Tiger

    He’s got a wife and kids but I think he’s wearing eyeliner.

  60. Pete of Perth

    Enjoying Freo IT?

  61. EvilElvis

    Fuck me. At a bbq and a guy has brought vegan food because the planet is getting hot. He also brought 2 avocados.

    Knock the fucker out and put him on the spit. His kids will thank you later.

  62. DrBeauGan

    <blockquoteNever commented upon his Cuba trips before but always a first time.

    Pathetic.

    “With Maria on WhatsApp, I never have a need for prawn. She keeps me fully supplied.”

    I thought it was funny, but then I have a weird sense of humour. Like thinking it a fair exchange that she sends me videos of her twerking and I send pix of my Australia Day roast and Arras sparkling.

    I guess her contribution rewards her with good healthy exercise and mine rewards me with torpor. There’s a moral in there somewhere.

  63. MatrixTransform

    Knock the fucker out and put him on the spit. His kids will thank you later

    Check his temperature first

  64. DrBeauGan

    Never commented upon his Cuba trips before but always a first time.

    Pathetic.

    “With Maria on WhatsApp, I never have a need for prawn. She keeps me fully supplied.”

    I thought it was funny, but then I have a weird sense of humour. Like thinking it a fair exchange that she sends me videos of her twerking and I send pix of my Australia Day roast and Arras sparkling.

    I guess her contribution rewards her with good healthy exercise and mine rewards me with torpor. There’s a moral in there somewhere.

  65. feelthebern

    Nothing beats pineapple on a burger.

  66. 8th Dan

    Bombardier … it doesn’t matter what is or is not appropriate in Victoria. Nor does it matter whatever else you googled. The term in use in NSW is “sectioned” … and it has been “sectioned” since 1983.

  67. Boambee John

    On the hoardings at the tennis is “GUO JIAO 1573”.

    Does anyone know the significance of this?

  68. Zyconoclast

    Doesn’t need to be hot at all, cold brew coffee is easy but slow. Just mix ground coffee with clean water, shake vigorously and give time to brew in a cool place (preferably the fridge). Benefits from a filter but if you give it time to settle then carefully decanting off the top can work.

    Conclusions and Future Work

    This research reveals important fundamental differences between hot and cold brew coffee that may have implications for possible health impacts on drinkers. It is often claimed by cold brew coffee enthusiasts that cold brew coffee has lower acidity than its hot brew counterparts, and thus may be a better alternative for those who suffer from gastrointestinal symptoms. This study suggests that the hot brew method tends to extract additional non-deprotonated acids in comparison to the cold brew method. These acids may be responsible for the higher antioxidant activities observed in hot brew coffee samples. Additionally, the chemical composition of hot brew coffee may be more diverse and complex than that of cold brew coffee. Additional research is needed to fully understand any possible differences in the health effects of coffee as a function of brewing temperature and time. The lower antioxidant capacity in cold brew coffees may decrease the chemoprotective benefits known to be associated with hot brew coffees.

  69. JD

    On a more positive note, the 777X had its maiden flight. Beautiful aircraft. They had to cancel the initial run yesterday due to bad weather. I am sure JC will be happy with his Boeing stock. Looks like a winner.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    More music.

    Rick Wakeman – Sir Lancelot and the Black Knight
    Max Sharam – Coma
    Lamb – B Line

  71. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do you know what happened to him?

    Jo – He’s a lefty, sadly. Ah well.
    ‘Aliens Ate My Buick’ is an awesome album though.

    My Brain is Like a Sieve – Thomas Dolby

  72. rickw

    GUO JIAO 1573

    Chinese booze, a little low on bat entrails for my liking.

  73. JC

    JD
    What’s there to be happy about with BA stock. It’s down almost 30% from its highs and still no end in sight with the fucking 737 disaster.

    I’m not selling as it’s in my never sell basket and have to keep with that self imposed law. The new plane will be great but I’m also getting older 🙂

  74. EvilElvis

    Check his temperature first

    You’re right, Matrix.

    78 degrees for well done, IT. Might even get some crackle going.

  75. Dr Faustus

    On the hoardings at the tennis is “GUO JIAO 1573”.

    Does anyone know the significance of this?

    Premium brand of baijiu – a truly disgusting Chinese spirit, designed to compliment bat carpaccio.
    Puke in a bottle.

  76. EvilElvis

    And get the kids and wife to help basting. They’ll move on a lot quicker. She’ll be on tinder by Easter.

  77. feelthebern

    This showed up on my youtube recommended video feed.

  78. Tel

    This study suggests that the hot brew method tends to extract additional non-deprotonated acids in comparison to the cold brew method. These acids may be responsible for the higher antioxidant activities observed in hot brew coffee samples.

    Sounds like a worry … but I should be right to worry about that on the flipside after the coronageddan is all done and dusted and the power comes back on.

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    For some reason the spam monster ate my last effort.

    Lanb – B Line
    Max Sharam – Coma
    Tool – Vicarious

    I can’t remember what the third one was I had when the spammeister consumed it so you get another Tool.

  80. Perhaps I should change that to:

    A 100% loss ratio is fine as long as the missus can keep pumping them out.

    Or perhaps not…

  81. Tel:

    Doesn’t need to be hot at all, cold brew coffee is easy but slow. Just mix ground coffee with clean water, shake vigorously and give time to brew in a cool place (preferably the fridge). Benefits from a filter but if you give it time to settle then carefully decanting off the top can work.

    Tel, I never took you for a complete barbarian.
    You’ve gone up in my books.

  82. MatrixTransform

    Premium brand of baijiu

    8th baizuo

    8th bai zhuo.

    one means stupid white man that stands for nothing and the other means gonorrhea

    somebody chinese please check my spelling
    (the Numptard can have the capital C)

  83. Matrix Transform:

    Knock the fucker out and put him on the spit. His kids will thank you later
    Check his temperature first

    Make sure you remove the frock, and only take the bits of muscle that aren’t pink. Not that there will be much…
    And thanks for the Kashmir link, BoN.

  84. Tel

    I’m interested in primitive technology … especially simple easy to learn technology. I have a nice coffee machine and would not live a rough life by choice. On the other hand, one doesn’t want to get too softie either … because you never know exactly what the choices will look like tomorrow.

    Think of me as a generalist, who knows a little bit about a lot of things, specializing in being a bit skeptical about most things.

  85. Dr Faustus

    So far, Ash Barty hasn’t come out as a ‘proud Jagera woman’, or expressed a view on climate change. Just that she ‘wants to be the best she can be’.

    She’s missing a trick here.

  86. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Recently, Prof. Zhengli Shi and Xingyi Ge from WIV, in cooperation with researchers from University of North Carolina,

    oh look the very two chicoms who worked on novel coronavirus in 2015 in the US are now a mere 20miles from the current outbreak of a novel coronavirus.

    that would be rather ironic wouldn’t it if chicoms who steal everything in sight have had it backfire so spectacularly.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    For Johanna, off ‘Aliens Ate My Buick’:

    Thomas Dolby — Hot Sauce
    Thomas Dolby – Pulp Culture
    Thomas Dolby – The Ability to Swing

    All really good tracks.

  88. MatrixTransform

    back at ya
    Gomez – 78 Stone Wobble
    Matthew Sweet – Evangeline
    Josh Abrahams & Amiel Daemion – Addicted To Bass

  89. Tintarella di Luna

    kaysee
    #3302910, posted on January 26, 2020 at 3:53 pm

    Tinta, I’ve heard various versions of that, but I like your mamma’s.
    Added it to my book of wisdom.

    Even more sobering when said in the old Veneto dialect, heard once never forgotten.

  90. rickw

    that would be rather ironic wouldn’t it if chicoms who steal everything in sight have had it backfire so spectacularly.

    When you steal someone’s mechanical or electrical design and miss some subtle point, the outcome tends to be a little less dire.

  91. Des Deskperson

    ‘On the hoardings at the tennis is “GUO JIAO 1573”.’

    It’s a brand of Chinese liquor. I believe it is one of the sponsors of the tennis.

  92. Boambee John

    A long time ago (1979) the soviets had an accidental release if anthrax from a military research facility near Sverdlovsk. Being a closed society, they werecable to contain the outbreak, with around 100 deaths.

    China might not be so lucky, nor the rest of the world, this time.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A long time ago (1979) the soviets had an accidental release if anthrax from a military research facility near Sverdlovsk. Being a closed society, they werecable to contain the outbreak, with around 100 deaths.

    I remember that one, yes.

  94. P

    I believe stackja mentioned this before, and so I wonder if we wouldn’t be better off here in NSW with the old North Head Quarantine Station.

    The complex operated as a quarantine station from 14 August 1832 to 29 February 1984.
    The concept behind its establishment was that, as an island-nation, the Colony of New South Wales, as it then was, was susceptible to ship-borne disease. Those who might have an infectious disease would be kept in quarantine until it was considered safe to release them.

  95. johanna

    Des Deskperson
    #3302562, posted on January 26, 2020 at 9:19 am

    Among the many recipients of high level Australian honours who have already been well rewarded in terms of money, perks and prestige is one Robyn Williams AO of Roselle, NSW.

    Mr Wiliams’ citation is as follows: For distinguished service to science as a journalist, radio presenter and author, and to education.

    Roselle, BTW, is Sydney harbour-side suburb. Williams clearly isn’t worried about risings sea levels.

    Sorry, Des, but you are wrong.

    Rozelle is not a harbourside suburb – I know, because I used to live there. Parts of it front onto the river. It sits above Balmain, which is where the harbourside begins.

    I lived next door to Callan Park, the then largely decommissioned psychiatric hospital. It was a gorgeous piece of parkland, accesible to the public. The only downside was the stand of old Moreton Bay Fig trees next door to my house, which hosted thousands of fruit bats. But, meh, I just turned up Iggy to drown them out.

  96. cohenite

    The term in use in NSW is “sectioned” … and it has been “sectioned” since 1983.

    Dickless, you’re like a boil on the bum. You need scheduling; but alas those who need scheduling are mainly doing the scheduling these days.

  97. rickw:

    When you steal someone’s mechanical or electrical design and miss some subtle point, the outcome tends to be a little less dire.

    Didn’t the US do something to screw the Soviets with a supersonic jet?
    My memory is a bit vague on it.
    I know there was something with an earlier prop bomber where they copied everything down to a patch in the fuselage, but I’ve a feeling it was something a little more drastic than that.

  98. Geriatric Mayfly

    If big fat killer bees can escape a research facility in South America, airborne viruses could easily find a nano route to freedom.

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    MT – Good stuff. I have Matthew Sweet’s album but not the other two. The singles I know well though, they’re gorgeous. Gomez is smooth as good whiskey.

    Best use of anime for music track evah.

  100. Entropy

    Didn’t the US do something to screw the Soviets with a supersonic jet?

    Was that the Firefox?

  101. Boambee John:

    A long time ago (1979) the soviets had an accidental release if anthrax from a military research facility near Sverdlovsk. Being a closed society, they werecable to contain the outbreak, with around 100 deaths.

    I vaguely remember a US investigation into why several Russian towns were removed from their post code books in the late 50’s.
    IIRC, the Soviets were refining uranium/plutonium and pouring the waste into clay lined trenches. Unfortunately, the clay slowly bonded to and concentrated the fissionables. When it reached a sub critical mass it essentially became a slow volcano and contaminated hundreds of miles of country side.
    IIRC, it was in the Urals – may have been near to Chelyabinsk – OKA Tankograd.

  102. Des Deskperson

    ‘Sorry, Des, but you are wrong.’

    I based it on my I-phone map app, that seemed to show a lot of water around Roselle.

    The question is still: would a possible 100 meters rise in sea levels as suggested by Williams in, IIRC, 2007, swamp Roselle??

  103. johanna

    OK, Bruce, I’ve got them on my list.

    Damn, after a hot day, the temp is finally dropping and I should be able to open the windows – but no, more bushfire smoke. Not sure where this latest lot is from.

    After almost two months of living in a fug, it is getting very old.

    A pox on greenies and their acolytes. The bees, the plants, the birds and the humans around here have suffered serious harm, even though no fires have (fortunately) hit our spot.

    I have chatted with locals, many of whom come from surrounding small towns where logging was the main industry, and not one of them believes that ‘climate change’ has anything to do with the conflagrations. They are disgusted with slick city politicians who know nothing about the bush, and probably couldn’t even set a campfire.

  104. johanna

    ROZELLE!

    FFS, Des. If you can’t even spell the name of the suburb, after a gentle correction, I suggest that you abandon this line of discussion.

  105. Entropy:

    Was that the Firefox?

    The aircraft or the Browser?
    When the pilot defected with his MiG 21 and flew it to Japan, the US experts pulled it apart.
    To their humour, they found the supposedly top of the line aircraft had vacuum tubes instead of some its solid state electronics.
    But the aircraft was designed to be used in a pre and post nuclear environment, and the valves which were closer to the aircraft exterior and had less shielding from nuclear EMP, were more tolerant to the pulse.
    Never laugh at the Russians for an apparently odd design idea – they were pretty bloody good at making silk purses out of sows ears. A bit like expecting the Germans to not react to any real threat to their flanks.
    They may not have been able to do all that much, but I’d hate to go up against a Russo-German coalition.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I know there was something with an earlier prop bomber where they copied everything down to a patch in the fuselage, but I’ve a feeling it was something a little more drastic than that.

    That was the Tu 4, which was a mirror image of a B 29.

  107. Johanna:

    Damn, after a hot day, the temp is finally dropping and I should be able to open the windows – but no, more bushfire smoke. Not sure where this latest lot is from.
    After almost two months of living in a fug, it is getting very old.

    I decided a few years ago to replace the aircon from evaporative to reverse cycle. I left the old system in and had it serviced and upgraded.
    Reason? The evaporative aircon just needs the addition of a liter of bleach to the pads to send sterile air through the house as well as getting the fine particulates out.
    (Not that I thought of that when I left it in.)

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m not stocking up on supplies for the Coronageddon.

    Others have already stocked up.

    I will prey on the weak. No one will come to save them.

    ‘For I am become Death,
    the destroyer of worlds.’ – some bloke

  109. cohenite

    UK Researcher Predicts Over 250,000 Chinese Will Have Coronavirus In Ten Days

    When it comes to estimating the human capital and potential fallout from a highly contagious epidemic, arguably the most important variable is the R0 (“R-naught”) value of the disease, which represents the average number of secondary cases arising from an average primary case in a entirely susceptible population. That’s the technical definition, a simpler one is that the R0, or basic reproductive number, of a contagious disease is the number of cases that a case of the disease generates over the course of its infectious period in a susceptible population. The higher this number, the more dangerous the disease, the more lethal the outcome.

    Some indicative R0s are 0.9 – 2.1 for the common flu while the 1918-1919 pandemic-causing Spanish flu was estimated to have ranged from 1.4 – 2.8, with a mean of 2. Some other notable R0s are shown below, and note that SARS was between 2 and 5:

  110. Knuckle Dragger

    The children loss ration should be a simple process.

    Send them out hunting. Whoever comes back with the least edible/usable stuff gets killed and eaten.

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    Bern, 5.58 p.m.;

    ‘Unless it’s a Gray Nicholls review, there’s no reason to listen to Rose Batty.’

    Y’see, this is the sort of appallingly hilarious stuff that scoots past most people.

    But not all. Very, very well played sir.

  112. Entropy

    Winston Smith
    #3303335, posted on January 26, 2020 at 10:32 pm
    Entropy:

    Was that the Firefox?

    The aircraft or the Browser?
    When the pilot defected with his MiG 21 and flew it to Japan, the US experts pulled it apart

    I didn’t know Clint Eastwood flew the MIG 21.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When the pilot defected with his MiG 21 and flew it to Japan, the US experts pulled it apart.

    Two separate defections here. In 1966, an Iraqi pilot defected to Israel with a then brand new MiG 21, a Russian pilot defected to japan with a MiG 25 – that was the one where the Americans got all scornful about the design and technology, only to realize that it all had advantages.

  114. Knuckle Dragger:

    I will prey on the weak. No one will come to save them

    One sub class of survivors is the ones who do nothing apart from watch their neighbours.
    Reread “Lucifers Hammer” by the Niven/Pournelle duo. Except they got ambushed by a more ruthless gang.

  115. Knuckle Dragger

    Unsurprisingly: (Hun)

    ‘A political brawl in Melbourne’s western suburbs became physical over the weekend after a factional figure in the Labor Party was punched in the head.

    ‘Jasvinder Sidhu, an assistant secretary for the party’s Tarneit branch, was hosting a branch meeting at his home on Saturday when the dispute broke out. Rising concerns over preselections meant more than 100 people turned up to the usually small event and an argument broke out over allegations of branch stacking.’

  116. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston,

    The key to postapocalyptic gang survival is not being in a gang.

    Max Rockatansky did it four times and look where that got him. Every single fucking thing he drove, he stacked.

  117. ZK2A:
    Thanks – the MiG 25 would have been the one I was remembering.

  118. Farmer Gez

    As much as I’m enjoying reading your comments, a bus load of Brazilian young chicks have arrived at our hotel and are at the pool. There’s perving work to be done.
    Beer: check
    Dark sunnies: check

  119. Entropy

    Photos or it never happened

  120. Lazlo

    Rozelle borders both White Bay and Iron Cove (which are not rivers). These are not part of the “harbour”? Their surface water levels are different to the “harbour”?

  121. feelthebern

    You are correct Lazlo.
    Rozelle is indeed on the water, in parts.
    Example, Leichhardt Oval, spiritual home of my awful Balmain Tigers is actually in Rozelle.

  122. feelthebern

    KD, thanks for picking up on my cricket bat gag.

  123. feelthebern

    South American women at all costs.
    The parasites in their water has made them all crazy.

  124. feelthebern

    Avoid South American women at all costs.

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    Make no mistake Bern.

    If I’d thought of that first, I would have had that up in a flash. Piss funny though.

  126. Lazlo

    The name is indeed Leichhardt Oval, not Rozelle Oval. Although it is actually in Lilyfield.
    The Tigers were not always awful. But the scars of 89 still remain.

  127. Avoid South American women at all costs.

    There’s three breeds of backpackers I’ll never hire, no matter what.
    South American females are one of those three.

  128. Lazlo

    Lilyfield (2040) Rozelle (2039).

  129. feelthebern

    Leichhardt is also 2040.

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s three breeds of backpackers I’ll never hire, no matter what.
    South American females are one of those three.

    Tell us more?

  131. feelthebern

    Lilyfield ?
    Hmmm…further investigation awaits.

  132. mh

    How about South American female strippers?

  133. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    For those enquiring about Chinese liquor….. All you need to know is when in China your dinner hosts produce a bottle and casually throws away the top, you will shortly be speaking fluent Mandarin, and they, fluent English. The toast “ganbei” facilitates cultural understanding remarkably well.

  134. feelthebern

    Joe Rogan.
    Toxoplasma.

  135. Lazlo

    Yes, there was a short German post-war refugee who started a movement to make Lilyfield part of Leichhardt. His Leichhardtian lebensraum was halted at Victoria Road, due to traffic light failure.

  136. feelthebern

    Every time your Chinese host drinks, you are required to drink.
    You end up having to pretend to sip your drink.

  137. Knuckles:

    The key to postapocalyptic gang survival is not being in a gang.
    Max Rockatansky did it four times and look where that got him. Every single fucking thing he drove, he stacked.

    You cannot stay awake to fend off predators by yourself. It may work for the first few days, but gangs will always emerge if only for protection. The social environment continues to change as time goes on. The best survival and growth rates are in a 50 to 250 adult group, in the country.
    Sorry guys, Mad Max scenarios break down as they plunder the available food supplies. Sooner or later the fuel and crops to sustain gangs will fail.
    The family in the wilderness so beloved of prepper scenarios will also fail because they will become magnets for the gangs who have just eaten out the area they lived in.
    You need a large group of people with a food supply to sustain the first year – like a country town away from large city populations, with enough people to maintain security patrols and an effective secure area.
    If you have the requisite skills, you may be taken in, but competition will be fierce.
    I’d have suggested taking up vet, doc, armourer, farmer, electrician, building, ex forces, midwife, etc.
    If you are a stockbroker, teacher, Health administrator, etc, you will be right out of luck.
    Docs and midwives will be worth their weight in food.
    Why?
    Because, as the girls run out of pills, the old dynamic will take over. Women’s liberation will be dead the moment the first copper is shot defending a loaf of bread.
    Expect a baby boom in the first two years post WZV – along with 50% infant and maternal rates.
    And that is where the tragedy lies – kids dying from preventable illnesses. Broken limbs will go back to being a death sentence from sepsis, and appendicitis will once again have to be done without anaesthetics.

    But you were joking, I take it, Knuckle Dragger?
    Let’s just hope this pandemic dies down soon.

  138. There’s three breeds of backpackers I’ll never hire, no matter what.
    South American females are one of those three.

    Tell us more?

    Same reason feelthebern gives.
    They’re crazy. Avoid at all costs.

  139. EvilElvis

    ‘Unless it’s a Gray Nicholls review, there’s no reason to listen to Rose Batty.’

    Y’see, this is the sort of appallingly hilarious stuff that scoots past most people.

    But not all. Very, very well played sir.

    Damn! I purposely don’t reply to these as I think 98% of Cats are pissing themselves laughing like I am. Keep it up, bern. And keep the jokes coming…

  140. feelthebern

    Is it illegal to ask a South American lady to take a toxo test before employing them?
    I know a young chap who fell in love with an Argie lady.
    They’ll still together, but his full head of hair is gone & what’s left is greying.
    & he’s only 30.
    She is barking mad.
    Definite toxo case.

  141. The best survival and growth rates are in a 50 to 250 adult group, in the country.

    The acid test for any group is going to come when their ammo runs out.

  142. feelthebern

    Winston, thanks for that.
    You clearly put a lot of thought into it.

  143. mh

    Curious timing

    Global Health & Emergencies Advocate Peter Salama Dies At Age 51

    WHO’s head of Universal Health Coverage, Dr. Peter Salama, has died suddenly at the age of 51.

    The Australian-born medical epidemiologist was known as an eloquent global health advocate, who dedicated his career to combatting the world’s most difficult and dangerous diseases and strengthening fragile health systems in states weakened by war and civil unrest…

    https://www.healthpolicy-watch.org/global-health-emergencies-advocate-peter-salama-dies-at-age-51/

    🤔

  144. feelthebern

    I’m avoiding Alex Jones & Infowars for the time being.

  145. JC

    mh

    It says he died of a heart attack. What’s curious about that?

    Salama, who was reported to have died of a heart attack, is survived by his wife and three children.

  146. EvilElvis

    Due to the current Corona situation I’d just like to put a shout out to a couple of girls in China. Hopefully if you receive this you’re both well and healthy. Honestly, after that night, we could get through anything. Bless!

    And KD, Tailgunner, there’s some surprise California beach bodies over there. As well as deadly viruses. Should that be contagions? Shit…

  147. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Yes, Feel the bern, I learnt that the hard (Maotai) way.

  148. JC

    Fuuuucck! The parents must be beside themselves.

    Australian kids stuck in Chinese virus trap

    Diplomatic staff are scrambling to repatriate Australians, including at least 100 schoolkids stranded in Wuhan, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.

  149. My accountant is on holiday in China for New Year. Last heard of a couple of weeks ago, extremely ill in hospital, with “a really strong cold” and in a wheelchair.

  150. feelthebern

    JB, my host brought out a bottle of Remy Martin cognac.
    I shudder to think what it cost.
    I sat on one class for the dinner, while he & his brother polished off the rest.
    While eating Chinese food.
    Bizarro world.
    They drank theirs with ice & coke.

  151. mh

    JC,

    51 years old.
    ‘Reported’ to have died from a heart attack.
    Global health and emergency advocate.
    Just happens to die when the ChiComs are desperately covering the truth of what’s happening.

    🤔

  152. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘But you were joking, I take it, Knuckle Dragger?’

    Potentially, Winston.

    I agree vis-à-vis the resourcing loads required to sustain larger groups. Besides, they draw attention to themselves and have competing interests and factions, especially in groups of 50 or more.

    And I will have to sleep. But I won’t have a stronghold, from which to sally forth and forage/plunder and return to. I’m good enough to not be found for eight or nine hours at a time, which will do.

    Even in a group of three, there will ultimately be a clique of two against one. So I will prey on the weak, the unwary and the stragglers after I have them isolated.

    Should it come to that, I won’t be interested in the human race’s survival. I’ll be interested in MY survival.

  153. Mark A

    Not familiar with Sydney so I looked it up Rozella is on the Paramatta river and the other side facing Rozella, Jones and White bay.

  154. feelthebern

    You need a machete KD.
    The way Denzel used his in the Book of Eli makes it a must have.

  155. Serious SATP?

    Yep.
    A message was passed a couple of weeks ago to someone, via social media or something, nobody bothered to tell me.
    Sick in hospital with a “really bad flu”.
    Coronavirus was totally unknown at that stage, & didn’t the news until a week or 10 days later.

  156. JC

    mh

    What “truth” are the Chinese actually trying to cover up?

  157. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #3303396, posted on January 26, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    JB, my host brought out a bottle of Remy Martin cognac.
    I shudder to think what it cost.
    I sat on one class for the dinner, while he & his brother polished off the rest.
    While eating Chinese food.
    Bizarro world.
    They drank theirs with ice & coke.

    Remy Martin can be good and also very ordinary.
    Ice and coke suggest ordinary.
    Still a sacrilege.

  158. Crikey! Someone posted a link quite some time back, to a lengthy & comprehensive account by a bloke, about surviving in Sarajevo or somewhere, during the really rough time.
    Very brutal & very stark account.
    Included plenty about breakdown of societal trust, & the value of various objects etc, including the value of medical expertise.

    Now I cannot find the blasted link!

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Diplomatic staff are scrambling to repatriate Australians, including at least 100 schoolkids stranded in Wuhan, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.’

    If those kids are anywhere near Wuhan and they think they’re coming straight back here because a) they’re nominally Australians, and b) therefore they’re somehow resistant to this shit, they should have some very bad news coming their way.

    Of course, I say ‘should have’.

  160. Mark A

    Shyte, “Rozella” Rozelle even.

  161. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Feel the bern, over the years, I have come to appreciate very much the different ways that Chinese people have. Like you, I have learnt to give an enthusiastic “ganbai” and just sip my drink. One thing I enjoy is the fact that alcohol fuelled violence is unknown (in my experience.)

  162. mh

    What “truth” are the Chinese actually trying to cover up?

    Anything that makes China look incompetent and shit. Like they always do.

  163. feelthebern

    alcohol fuelled violence is unknown

    Unfortunately alcohol fuelled singing is common place.

  164. mh

    ‘Diplomatic staff are scrambling to repatriate Australians, including at least 100 schoolkids stranded in Wuhan, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.’

    Chinese kids in Wuhan who hold Australian visas or passports. Yep, bring them straight here. Don’t mind us.

  165. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #3303380, posted on January 26, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    Spot on Winston.
    Read a book or small essay a while ago about surviving an apocalypse, same sentiments.
    A lone wolf is a non surviving wolf and a small gang is destined to perish.

  166. JC

    mh

    A lot of kids of European extraction do a year or so of schooling overseas. It’s not unusual.

  167. Knuckle Dragger

    Outstanding, bern.

    ‘It’s my hand now.’

    I think that’s what he said because my speakers are playing up.

  168. JC

    Seeing we’re in a curious mode.

    I wonder if these two abominables will be errr delaying the trip.

    ToJo, who is about to head off to China with his high-profile wife, Sarah Ferguson,

    As new hounds they would be doing cartwheels to get over there and report the action, no?

  169. JC

    As expected, the Media Diary piece further down says the trip has been delayed. Visas are tougher to enter China these days apparently.

    It’s been 12 months since it was announced these two arseholes were moving.

    China move delayed

    Speaking of Sarah Ferguson and Tony Jones, there has been a delay in their high-profile relocation to China to allow Ferguson to become the ABC’s bureau chief there.

    Jones tells Diary that the pair are in fact unable to move yet, because their visas have been “delayed” by the Chinese New Year holidays. Ferguson is overdue to take up the role, with the ABC originally saying she was due to commence in October last year. Jones will join her, writing thrillers while also keeping a roving regional correspondent’s role that will see him report from other countries in the region.

    Their move now looks like happening next month. Incidentally, Diary has been told the delay has nothing to do with the Wuhan coronavirus or, for that matter, with word among some western media outlets that Chinese authorities have been adopting a tougher position on journalists’ visas over the last year.

    I don’t believe a word of it.

  170. JC

    mh

    Now that’s a conspiracy theory (Jones delay and why) is worth chewing on. 🙂

  171. mh

    Please take Tony Jones.

    Then experiment on him.

  172. JC

    Please take Tony Jones.

    Yea, but he’s not going.

  173. mh

    Paywalled, but you get the idea

    Quick burials and lack of tests raise fears coronavirus outbreak is much bigger than China admits

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/25/quick-burials-lack-tests-raise-fears-cornavirus-outbreak-much/

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Pay the rent’ protesters label those who question racist
    NRL players Latrell Mitchell and Cody Walker in Sydney. Picture: Jonathan Ng
    NRL players Latrell Mitchell and Cody Walker in Sydney. Picture: Jonathan Ng

    Rachel Baxendale
    Victorian Political Reporter
    @rachelbaxendale
    2 hours ago January 26, 2020
    2 Comments

    The organisers of a Melbourne “Invasion Day” protest at which attendees were encouraged to “pay the rent” for living on “stolen land” have accused those asking questions about the governance of the fundraiser of being “racist”.

    Tens of thousands of people marched from state parliament to Flinders Street Station on Sunday, protesting against the celebration of Australia Day on January 26

    Buckets for cash collection, credit card facilities and online links were made available to attendees and other supporters who were told by protest organiser and Gunnai and Gunditjmara woman ­Meriki Onus: “Whether you live here, or in Gippsland, or up in Brisbane, you live on Aboriginal land, and you have an obligation to pay rent to the local blackfellas of that area.”

    Mr Onus’s uncle, Aboriginal activist Robbie Thorpe, suggested 1 per cent of annual income would be an appropriate amount to ­donate to the fund, which is not a registered charity and is being ­administered by activist group Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance, of which Ms Onus and Mr Thorpe are members.

    Ms Onus said the money would be put towards funerals for indigenous Victorians.

    Ms Onus’s cousin, activist and former state Greens MP Lidia Thorpe, hit out at those who asked questions about where the money was going.

    On Friday, Melbourne broadcaster Neil Mitchell interviewed Ms Thorpe, telling her Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance is “not the most credible organisation in the world” and asking, “where will the money go?”. On Sunday, Ms Thorpe hit back, to cheers from fellow protesters.

    “For those questioning the governance of the pay-the-rent concept, how dare you? It is racist,” she said. “Why don’t you ask where everybody else is spending their money and what they’re using it for?

    “We have a sophisticated governance system in place that our old people are in control of, like they should be.

    “We have the oldest constitution on this planet, the oldest governance system on this planet, so if anyone wants to question how the money is being spent, then you need to talk to my old people, and you need to justify what you’re doing on stolen land.”

    From the Oz. “The oldest constitution on this planet.” Can I see a written copy?

  175. mh

    Buckets for cash collection, credit card facilities and online links were made available to attendees and other supporters who were told by protest organiser and Gunnai and Gunditjmara woman ­Meriki Onus: “Whether you live here, or in Gippsland, or up in Brisbane, you live on Aboriginal land, and you have an obligation to pay rent to the local blackfellas of that area.”

    Peter Garrett endorses this message.

  176. Steve trickler

    I’ve never heard this before…… 👍



  177. JC

    Here’s an uplifting story about China – Shanghai actually.

    How Shanghai Saved 20,000 J&*^ws from the Nazis

  178. JC

    Here’s an uplifting story about China – Shanghai actually.

    How Shanghai Saved 20,000 J*^ws from the Nazis

  179. Mark A

    Hava to cut back on my silly postcards as they are of no value here, but I can’t resit this one, applies to the pseudo intellectual wankers.

  180. Mark A

    also have to check spelling manually, no spellcheck. Turned it off.

  181. Top Ender

    Winston Smith…Reread “Lucifers Hammer” by the Niven/Pournelle duo.

    And their others. I drag out The Mote in God’s Eye every now and then.

  182. Mark A

    The Mote in God’s Eye
    Have that and never finished, have to check why?
    Buying the other now.

  183. Has Sinclair Davidson been in here yet stating that there should be no quarantine or other impediment to people freely arriving from Wuhan?

  184. Mark A

    Anatomy question at uni

    Which body part can expand to 9 times its normal size?
    Long silence and then a female student risks an answer “The penis?”

    No, it’s the pupil says the lecturer, but I congratulate your boyfriend.

  185. Mark A

    One last reminder to all, When all else fails, read the instructions
    I mean it, cost over a 100k to one of our customers, “Do not remove this cover” in 5 languages.
    Of course it’s almost an invitation for some.

  186. Gilas

    Thank you Tom.

    Mark A
    #3303441, posted on January 27, 2020 at 2:40 am

    Anatomy question at uni..

    LOL, except that a pupil is a part of the body, but not a body part (says a pedantic spoiler of good jokes..).

  187. Mark A

    Thanks Tom
    But sorry, a very poor crop today.

  188. Mater

    Bombardier … it doesn’t matter what is or is not appropriate in Victoria. Nor does it matter whatever else you googled. The term in use in NSW is “sectioned” … and it has been “sectioned” since 1983.

    Hey Dan (yes, I know you’ll read this), I’m just catching up from yesterday and last night.

    When you start throwing around the “Mental Health Act (1983)” and linking to information to try to prove me wrong (as you did last night), perhaps check that the link is for Australia (preferably NSW) and not the UK.
    Hint for young players: If it refers to the “NHS”, it’s talking about the National Health Service in the UK…where, in fact, they do use the term “sectioned”.

    If you are a Doctor, as you seem to infer in that post (8th Dan #3302947, posted on January 26, 2020 at 4:28 pm) you need to be more au fait with your responsibilities in THIS country.

    The term in NSW is “scheduled”, and I have provided NSW Government material which says exactly that. Provide me with something (preferably from Australia, better if it relates to NSW) which proves me wrong.

  189. Nick

    Mr Onus’s uncle, Aboriginal activist Robbie Thorpe, suggested 1 per cent of annual income would be an appropriate amount to ­donate to the fund, which is not a registered charity and is being ­administered by activist group Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance, of which Ms Onus and Mr Thorpe are members.

    Ms Onus said the money would be put towards funerals for indigenous Victorians.

    You couldn’t make that up if you tried.
    The ‘funerals’ lurk sounds like a time honoured earn within the community

  190. Nick

    Mater, didn’t Septimus opine regularly about his medical experience ?

  191. Mater

    Mater, didn’t Septimus opine regularly about his medical experience ?

    Not sure, Nick.
    If he is in the game, I think it better that he not use NHS guidelines when advising his patients. Medicare will have a fit!

  192. Arky

    On the numbers for the last 24 hours, if they can be believed, it would seem to me that the china outbreak has peaked and the controls placed and whatever else shit they have done is working.
    Which would be very good news.
    Along with the fact that most every case in other countries are people arriving from China, so apparently not spreading.
    Be interesting to see what people take away from the event, what effect it has.
    Do companies go “Holy shit, do we want to operate in a country that might have to lockdown 50 million or 100 million people”? or do they go “Heh. That was an overhyped load of shit”.
    Do schools and universities here take a second look at their chasing the china market?
    Do supply chains start diversifying or even retaining local manufacturers?
    I’m joking of course. Nothing is ever learnt, and nothing changes.

  193. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    guardian quoting afp

    At one Wuhan hospital AFP visited, there were long queues of sick patients, many coughing, with overwhelmed staff unable to process them quickly.

    Outside the Red Cross facility – which is one of the hospitals people are sent to for initial tests if they show signs of infection – patients told AFP they felt exasperated and helpless.

    “It has been two days since I slept, and I have been wandering from hospital to hospital,” said a man in his 30s, who was trying to see a doctor because he was worried he might be infected.

    “At this rate, my turn will be tomorrow morning at best.”

    Those who spoke to AFP told of extremely long queues and disorganisation.

    One spoke of a fear that sick patients with fevers will infect each other while waiting in long queues, even if they didn’t have the coronavirus when they first arrived at the hospital.

    Another man said he had seen several people faint while waiting.

  194. Arky

    The other concern, of course, is our politicians and public health people will feel their non- response “We are monitoring the situation” was the correct one.
    When very obviously it could have been a total disaster.

  195. Mater

    The other concern, of course, is our politicians and public health people will feel their non- response “We are monitoring the situation” was the correct one.
    When very obviously it could have been a total disaster.

    We have a winner!

    It’s a truism that the Government will read a situation in exactly the wrong way.
    We are talking about a Government who, having lost much of their base due to leftist tendencies, decide that people aren’t voting for them because they are too Right Wing…and head off into the bushes with the Greens!

  196. vr

    Hopefully, this puts and end to the poaching of animals for Chinese medicine.

  197. Arky

    Jaysus Crow, a large chunk of the population scarpered:
    .

    Mr. Zhou also said that five million people had left Wuhan before travel out of the city was restricted, leaving nine million people still living there. That could imply that many more cases will be confirmed in other places in China over the next week or two.

  198. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    While everyone is getting all excited about the coronavirus in China…end of the world, plague of locusts, etc, have a look at deaths in the USA from old fashioned flu….

    http://www.usatoday.com › flu-season-cdc-says-virus-widespread-30-states
    Flu season: CDC reports 1900 deaths, virus is … – USA Today
    Dec 21, 2019
    The flu is widespread in 30 states and has caused almost 2,000 deaths this season,

  199. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.Jun 20, 2019

  200. miltonf

    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

    Calling career politicians a menace is an understatement.

  201. Arky

    Keep calling people racist.
    It really helps mixed race families.
    You idiot.

  202. 1735099

    Keep calling people racist.
    It really helps mixed race families.

    And abusing mixed race families is a better idea?
    Only on Catallaxy.
    Any brief read of comments about corona virus posted here exposes racism in all its glory.
    There are many rational ways to respond to a situation which kills innocent people.
    Post after post vilifying the victims is not one of them.

  203. Shy Ted

    Let’s hope they’ve grown out of saying dumb things by the time they’re 72, eh, TwoBob?

  204. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    CDC

    The virus genetic sequence from the patient in Washington is nearly identical to the sequences posted from China. The available sequences suggest a likely single, recent emergence from a virus related to bat coronaviruses and the SARS coronavirus.

    what a coincidence

    Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone.

  205. Arky

    Post after post vilifying the victims is not one of them.

    ..
    You are doing precisely that which those little kids were doing.
    Finding an easy way to feel superior to someone else.
    You have just done that twice on one page.
    Once to make yourself better than children, and now in your brain you are better than people who don’t like Chinese communism and make quips about it.
    Grow up.

  206. dover_beach

    Adventures in the Old Atheism, Part IV: Marx:

    All the same, let’s give that old rascal Karl Marx his due, because that is the point of this series. As with Nietzsche, Sartre, and Freud, Marx’s atheism exhibits far more gravitas than that of any of the New Atheists. The reasons are twofold. First, the brand of philosophical naturalism that underlies Marx’s atheism is less crude than that of Dawkins and Co. Second, as with the other Old Atheists, you won’t find in Marx the chirpy naïveté about the consequences of naturalism and of abandoning religion that you see in the New Atheists.

  207. Mater

    The Elton John concert last night was better than I expected.
    There was no aboriginal flags flying above the stage…unlike Springsteen.
    There was no intermission to bad mouth Trump and drum up hatred…unlike Springsteen.
    There was no competition for the best Anti-Trump placard…unlike Springsteen.
    No political BS at all.

    He got up, he sang (well, for his age), and told some amusing stories about his early career. Concert done.
    Credit where it’s due.

  208. shatterzzz

    1735099
    #3303491, posted on January 27, 2020 at 7:32 am
    This behaviour should have stayed in South Africa.

    Our ABC runs several of these tales a day .. stop being picky! .. link ’em all!
    it’s one of their standard themes!

  209. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Thanks, Tom (and Mark’s postcards also deserve a mention).

    Ben G usually doesn’t do it for me, but his artwork is always impressively detailed. I note the koala featured in the Chinese meal!

    Leak is on point, as he usually is.

  210. Cassie of Sydney

    “Grow up.”

    Would be nice Arky…but the racist is a perpetual adolescent.

  211. Arky

    The Elton John concert last night was better than I expected

    ..
    You never told me you were gay.

  212. Mater

    You never told me you were gay.

    You never asked!

  213. Arky

    You never asked!

    ..
    I should have known when you asked me to babysit your bichon frise.

  214. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone.

    SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronavirus pose threat for human emergence
    Vineet D. Menachery,1 Boyd L. Yount, Jr,1 Kari Debbink,1,2 Sudhakar Agnihothram,3 Lisa E. Gralinski,1 Jessica A. Plante,1 Rachel L. Graham,1 Trevor Scobey,1 Xing-Yi Ge,8 Eric F. Donaldson,1 Scott H. Randell,4,5 Antonio Lanzavecchia,6 Wayne A. Marasco,7 Zhengli-Li Shi,8 and Ralph S. Baric1,2

    zhengli-li’s Wuhan virology institute to huanan seafood market route

  215. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China installed the first of a planned five to seven biolabs designed for maximum safety in Wuhan in 2017, for the purpose of studying the most high-risk pathogens, including the Ebola and the SARS viruses.

    Tim Trevan, a Maryland biosafety consultant, told Nature that year, when the lab was on the cusp of opening, that he worried that China’s culture could make the institute unsafe because ‘structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important.’

    In fact, the SARS virus had ‘escaped’ multiple times from a lab in Beijing, according to the Nature article.

  216. Eyrie

    “You cannot stay awake to fend off predators by yourself. It may work for the first few days, but gangs will always emerge if only for protection. ”
    How do you the concept of “government” ever got started? Government is just a large gang.

  217. Eyrie

    Sorry, “how do you think”.

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