Another opportunity to miss an opportunity

Here’s something different: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, UAE welcome Trump peace plan. I doubt it would ever have been put on the table if it had not already been pre-approved. As for the Palestinian leadership, they have never sought peace so something will have to change. The Western media will also likely remain negative, if for no other reason than the plan has come from Donald Trump. As for the Democrats, they never have a foreign policy that is not a domestic policy aimed at winning votes. The details are via Powerline.

Borders: Trump’s plan features a map of what Israel’s new borders will be, should it enact the plan fully. Israel will retain 20% of the West Bank and will lose a small amount of land in the Negev near the Gaza-Egypt border. The Palestinians will have a pathway to a state in the vast majority of territory in the West Bank, while Israel will maintain control of all borders.

This is the first time an American peace plan has included a map.

Jerusalem: The Palestinians will have a capital in east Jerusalem based on northern and eastern neighborhoods that are outside the Israeli security barrier – Kafr Akab, Abu Dis and half of Shuafat. Otherwise, Trump said Jerusalem will remain undivided as Israel’s capital.

In addition:

Settlements: Israel will retain the Jordan Valley and all Israeli settlements in the West Bank in the broadest definition possible, meaning not the municipal borders of each settlement but their security perimeters. This also includes 15 isolated settlements, which will be enclaves within an eventual Palestinian state. Within those settlements Israel will not be able to build for the next four years.

Security: Israel will be in control of security from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. The IDF will not have to leave the West Bank. No change to Israel’s approach to Judea and Samaria would be needed.

Palestinian state: The plan does not include immediate recognition of a Palestinian state; rather, it expects a willingness on Israel’s part to create a pathway toward Palestinian statehood based on specific territory, which is about 70% of Judea and Samaria, including areas A and B and parts of Area C. The state will only come into existence in four years if the Palestinians accept the plan, if the Palestinian Authority stops paying terrorists and inciting terrorism and if Hamas and Islamic Jihad put down their weapons. In addition, the American plan calls on the Palestinians to give up corruption, respect human rights, freedom of religion and a free press, so that they don’t have a failed state. If those conditions are met, the US will recognize a Palestinian state and implement a massive economic plan to assist it.

I should add that a proposal is supposed to be the start of a negotiation, inviting a counter-proposal. Will anyone on the left care or even bother to notice that no counter-proposal is ever forthcoming?

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14 Responses to Another opportunity to miss an opportunity

  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Palestinians have rejected at least five attempts at a “Two State” solution since the 1930’s. What makes anyone think they are interested in one, now?

  2. Mother Lode

    I should add that a proposal is supposed to be the start of a negotiation, inviting a counter-proposal. Will anyone on the left care or even bother to notice that no counter-proposal is ever forthcoming?

    The left don’t do deals. They believe in power and using power to coerce others into compliance with their will.

    They will see this as a stupid deal because the Palis did not accept it and also see it as a wise move on the Palis behalf as they have not submitted to the US and Israel. The only acceptable deal (for them) would be one imposed by the Palis.

    Ignorance of real world norms and practice enables the left to keep fighting when prospects of achieving their ostensive outcomes are zilch and swarms of unintended consequences are buzzing around the corpse of their idea.

    Look at how they use ‘consensus’ in scientific debate.

  3. Nob

    The left will rush to side with the first Pali to threaten violence.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nothing will change.

    Back when Olmert offered Abbas a much much better deal, so good that Abbas dared not reject it, he ‘temporarily withdrew for discussions’ and didn’t come back.

    That was because if he rejected it the EU would have stopped funding him. But if he accepted it he would’ve been assassinated within a week. This deal is worse so he can afford to reject it and play the sympathy tune with the EU to keep funding. Also the EU left has hardened in their antis emitic outlook since back then.

    The Arab countries welcome the deal because they have Iran to worry about. Trump is very capable of dumping any support of them if they give him an excuse. And they know the US is now self sufficient in oil.

    The Arab kiddies in the street, on the other hand, hate Israel. The Pali kiddies in the street all hate Israel even worse. That’s not going to change.

    The Arab leaders spend a lot of time and money keeping their kiddies placid, so they can afford to give lip service to the deal and work hard on their civil population to keep them from acting up too much.

  5. Ceres

    “In addition, the American plan calls on the Palestinians to give up corruption, respect human rights, freedom of religion and a free press, so that they don’t have a failed state.”
    Good luck with that. Corruption and human rights abuses are ingrained in these people and freedom of religion, apart from islam, is not possible, given their hatred of jews.
    So like many before him Trump will find he is not dealing with a rational, civilised way of thinking, (which I’m sure he realises) but good on him for trying. They reject everything short of getting rid of Israel.

  6. Herodotus

    The PLO do not deserve a state. Looking around the region, with Syria and Iraq in a mess, Iran still a disastrous theocratic dictatorship, Saudis pretending to be more liberated, where is the model of a modern arab state that works? Jordan is less troubled than most, and is where most of the relatively sensible “palestinians” actually live.

  7. Nob

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3306178, posted on January 30, 2020 at 6:58 am

    The Arab kiddies in the street, on the other hand, hate Israel.

    Do they?

    I worked plenty in Egypt, Syria and UAE.
    The locals didn’t care about Israel, the Egyptians actually do a lot of business with Israel, and none of them like the “Palestinio” diaspora seeing them something like “thievin’ Gypsy bastards”.

    On the other hand, I kinda liked the Palestinians working in the UAE. They were wheeler dealers but had a bit of energy and charm compared to the lethargic entitled locals.

    A world away from full-time resentniks running Gaza and the West Bank.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jordan is less troubled than most

    Jordan announced a vehement “no” to the proposal even before the details were released.

    King of Jordan: Our ‘no’ to the ‘Deal of the Century’ is absolute (26 Jan)

  9. Bruce

    In their own words:

    Starting with Zuheir Mohsen, – top PLO member responsible for Damur massacre:

    “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

    See also; Professor Philip Hitti, an Arab historian who declared, “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.”

    This fact is further confirmed by the Saudi Arabia Representative at the United Nations. “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.”

    Or Fathi Hammad, who said live on TV:“…half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis”

    How about Hafez Assad, who said to the PLO: “You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria.”

    Then there’s Zuhair Muhsin, Executive Council, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO: “There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.”

    And finally, a few words from retired terrorist, Walid Shoebat: “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?” We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”. When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

    The very name “Palestine” is based on fictions and ancient political shenanigans.

    After the siege of Masada. Emperor Hadrian decided to erase the name of Judeah forever, so being literate and having a suitably grim, Roman sense of humour, he ordered the area to be renamed after earlier inhabitants of the region; a large band of notorious pirates. These were the “Peleshet”, a name which variously and loosely translates to “invaders” or “raiders”. They had long since ceased operating in the region, but their memory lingered across the eastern Mediterranean. Hence the morphing of the Latin terminology for said pirates nominal “home”, “Palaestina”, through to the Medieval English “Palestine”.

  10. Jock

    Glad it refutes the “refugee” return crap. How can you have refugees 70 years later? Mind you it puts pressure on Jordan. Makes sense to annex the Jordan valley and give up part of the Negev close to Egypt. Overall it’s a good practical plan. Or at least the basis of negotiation. But the Arabs in the West bank and Gaza will reject it. They need another 100 years to do a deal.

  11. Bruce

    Supplementary:

    The Turks refer to the “Paleestinians” as “Filistini”.

    Ring a bell?

  12. PB

    Great plan for Israel. Might even keep Bibi out of jail.

  13. Mother Lode

    The Jordanians might prefer the Palis to be at someone else’s throat so they can avoid dealing with them themselves. They were originally Jordanians anyway but have allowed themselves to become so degraded through a pervasive resentment which they instinctively pick at like a scab, a relentless grinding away of all refinement, a cumbersome heaping upon themselves of dubious and inconsistent military ideologies, and a general odium that makes them unwelcome anywhere except within their own gloomy burrows among fellows with a similar stench – and a similar readiness to creep up and slit the throat of friend or foe alike.

    Bad hygiene too.

  14. BorisG,

    The locals didn’t care about Israel,

    Well I guess it is complicated. Maybe individually they don’t care, but when their government makes the slightest gesture towards Israel, like sending an ambassador or meet with an Israeli representative somewhere in NY or Davis, they immediately organize mass protests etc. not sure how to reconcile these different reactions.

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