Upside: less “group work” responsibility for Aussie students

Coronavirus: Travel ban risks exodus of Chinese students.


Australia is in danger of losing a third of new Chinese students to foreign universities as tensions over the Morrison government’s extension of the coronavirus ­travel ban into a third week prompted the Chinese embassy to express “deep regret and dissatisfaction”…

The Chinese embassy in Canberra last night expressed “deep regret and dissatisfaction” over the extension of the travel ban, saying China had taken “the most comprehensive and rigorous prevention and control measures” against the disease. “Only Australia and a small number of countries have taken such extreme measures, which are overreaction indeed,” the ­embassy said.

A major survey of Chinese students stranded in China by the travel ban has found nearly a third of them (32 per cent) would enrol in another country if they were prevented from studying in ­Australia in the first semester of this year.

 
What else can you do but laugh when the people behind the Cultural Revolution and the Tiananmen massacre criticise your country for “extreme measures?” The ABC reports that China’s ambassador to Australia was seen “multiple times in the days leading up to Thursday’s decision to extend the travel ban.”

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21 Responses to Upside: less “group work” responsibility for Aussie students

  1. Judge Dredd

    A good silver lining to the fake news Corona-with-lyme-disease media scare – putting a serious halt to immigration.

  2. Infidel Tiger

    Our inner cities, our schools, our universities, are finally returning to some sense of normality with hundreds of thousands of Chcioms kept out.

    Long may it continue.

    One day a degree from an Australian uni may be worth more than a piece of shit stained toilet paper if this keeps up.

  3. Judge Dredd

    @Infidel Tiger, true. demographics is destiny as they say. I’m trying to work out the last time I voted for one of those major political parties that said they would stop immigration? Oh , they never put it to the people, that’s right.

    One day a degree from an Australian uni may be worth more than a piece of shit stained toilet paper if this keeps up.

    That is funny! I wouldn’t hold your breath though!

  4. Slim Cognito

    At last an upside to covid19.

  5. liliana

    Our inner cities, our schools, our universities, are finally returning to some sense of normality with hundreds of thousands of Chcioms kept out.

    If only it were true. Enough of them made it back or were already here. The squawking, spiting, hording empty houses and mountains of rubbish continue unabated. The major political parties are bought and paid for. Immigration is the great untouchable.

    I hang onto a thread of hope that Australia can return to its pre-invasion state. If nothing else hopefully the virus will make a few more people realise just how much influence china has – that is if people can tear themselves away from FB and MAFS.

  6. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    yellow dollar much more valuable than a few white ageing males, no?

  7. Cynic of Ayr

    Well, it’s completely beyond me why the Chinese would want an education in Australia.
    It’s a complete furphy to extol the value of the brilliance of our University Lecturers. Many are idiots, with the smarter ones keeping their heads down.
    I guess the reason is that it is well known – very well known – that foreign students do not have to actually gain an examination pass to get the award. They just have pay the money.
    OK, run with the idea that China wasn’t all that educated a number of years ago.
    Run with the idea that thousands of Chinese have been “educated” in Australia, the US, Britain and wherever.
    Run with the idea that a significant proportion of those Chinese students, are now Professors or Doctors of some varied fields. Even just competent.
    So, ergo, why the hell doesn’t China have it’s own Universities?
    There is no reason that I know of, so all this Chinese invasion of foreign (to them) Universities must have some other , perhaps nefarious, purpose.

  8. John A

    What else can you do but laugh when the people behind the Cultural Revolution and the Tiananmen massacre criticise your country for “extreme measures?”

    Is that a form of national-grade hypocrisy, then?

  9. Just a speed bump on the road to our inevitable destiny which is to become The Poor Multicultural Trash of Asia(TM).

  10. Boambee John

    Cynic of Ayr

    Pardon my cynicism, but China has many universities, of adequate quality to support, inter alia, nuclear, strategic missile and space programs.

    What those universities cannot provide is the possibility of permanent residency in a “refuge” nation.

  11. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    the people behind the Cultural Revolution and the Tiananmen massacre

    Not to mention that regrettable contretemps, the Taiping Rebellion.

  12. Speedbox

    What those universities cannot provide is the possibility of permanent residency in a “refugee” nation.

    Yep. And a degree from a western university is more highly valued in the labour market, particularly if the person subsequently seeks employment in another western country.

    The Russians have had universities since the mid 1700’s – and some of them are actually quite good – but a degree (even a doctorate) from a Russian university is not as highly valued as a standard degree from a western university.

  13. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    I don’t see why them not being here precludes them from a degree? The qualification is bought not earned. My son was put with a group of non English speakers and told that if the group failed he failed. My son did all the work but they all got the degree. It’s a joke!

  14. Chris M

    They come to obtain degree in personality + comedy and humour studies. It’s an essential service Australia is providing, enriching the world we are. Also feeding babies with mystery powder – new Aussie slogan you make them, we feed them.

  15. JohnJJJ

    Rename it the XXXXVirus.

  16. JohnJJJ

    What is not really “studied” is the effect of Chinese style of learning on Australian Universities. They don’t suddenly change when they arrive here. For a start there is zero original thinking or discussion. They try to guess what the person in authority wants. As they are the main $ source (i.e easiest CBA) the admin and teachers who fit this style are promoted and eventually impose this type of teaching on all the staff. The lecturers and tutors teach in this manner and all the non Chinese (i.e. locals) must now fit the CONfucius model of learning. All courses now must be fixed in content years in advance, predictable and ruled by the rubric. The aim of the lecturers then is ‘delivery’ and they spend time marking predictable (completely) assignments. There can be NO changes. The OS students constantly look for ways to game the system and the local students just give up and realise it is ALL A CON!

  17. Squirrel

    “Upside: less “group work” responsibility for Aussie students”

    Good – “group work” with people of widely divergent capacities and motivation has a strong whiff of socialism about it – not what we want from young Australians in a very competitive world.

    Sooner or later, the overseas student racket was going to run into problems which couldn’t be covered up with the usual spin and propaganda – if the coronavirus brings forward the inevitable day of reckoning, that will be a silver lining.

  18. Nighthawk the Elder

    Colonel Bunty Golightly
    #3323429, posted on February 14, 2020 at 4:43 pm

    Yep, same as my two that went to uni. And work colleagues tell me the same with their kids.

    It’s a bloody rort and I don’t care what it supposedly brings to the economy. The paid for degrees aren’t worth whatever it is they are printed on. And no way I would want to do business with one of these purchased graduates. I want my graduates to at least have been educated, even if they lack experience at that point in time.

  19. flyingduk

    The ‘group work’ thing, involving carrying Chinese students through projects when they can barely speak English is real. My son (Engineering grad at Flinders) experienced it previously.

  20. Cynic of Ayr

    Boambee John
    Pardon my cynicism, but China has many universities, of adequate quality to support, inter alia, nuclear, strategic missile and space programs.
    What those universities cannot provide is the possibility of permanent residency in a “refuge” nation.

    Pardon? I applaud!
    However, methinks there is a bit more to this.
    Here we have a totalitarian State. The Citizens exist for the State. The State does not approve of rebellious Citizens. The Citizens are not allowed to take any action that is detrimental to the State.
    So, why would the State approve of, or allow, it’s Citizens the means to escape from the State, by the means you have outlined?
    There’s something in it for the State.
    Western Governments may not be prepared to admit they don’t know. Indeed, Western Governments may not be prepared to admit they do know. Chineseophobia and all that, donchaknow.
    Ta for reply.

  21. notafan

    Ditto on the group work.

    It’s a disgrace in Engineering.

    I doubt that Australian educated employers are ever gulled though.

    Or very many other western employers.

    Or not for long.

    But as people point out it’s the PR that is the real reward.

    Then a safe career as a personal shopper and baby formula/vitamin exporter.

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