Hate sites on the internet

Yesterday I flew through Auckland on my way home and decided to catch up on what had been happening in Australia. So after reading through the papers I began checking out the blogs. Turns out New Zealand runs a nanny state.

As much as I would love to make the short of cheap comments that petty minds like Steve revel in (  🙂  ) the fact of the matter is that this simply reflects the problem of censorship.  The nanny state starts with the allegedly noble intention of protecting people from “Hate and Racism” an ends up censoring very moderate traditional conservatives.

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44 Responses to Hate sites on the internet

  1. The nanny state starts with the allegedly noble intention of protecting people from “Hate and Racism” an ends up censoring very moderate traditional conservatives.

    That’s not an unintended consequence, that’s a feature.

  2. Cassie of Sydney

    “The nanny state starts with the allegedly noble intention of protecting people from “Hate and Racism” an ends up censoring very moderate traditional conservatives.”

    Of course….that is precisely the intention.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    The problem is the MSM is about 96% in the tank for the Left.
    So the Right has moved to blogs.
    Hence the censorship.

  4. Shy Ted

    St Jacinda has only just started. Watch and laugh.

  5. Richard Standley

    Yep… and who decides what’s hate speech and what’s not?
    As a white, heterosexual Christian man, I’m confronted all the time by “hate speech” from those who condemn such bile…
    My Christianity is the subject of hatred, my maleness means I’m somehow part of a “rape” system, as a Heterosexual male I’m being told I’m a hater of the alphabet community, and as a man of European complexion I’m supposed to be a racial bigot…
    We have reached more than a Nanny state, but a looming totalitarian system that won’t brook opposition… or criticism..

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    “hy Ted
    #3331307, posted on February 22, 2020 at 9:16 am
    St Jacinda has only just started. Watch and laugh.”

    Yep.

  7. Cassie of Sydney

    “We have reached more than a Nanny state, but a looming totalitarian system that won’t brook opposition… or criticism..”

    It’s here…..we are already seeing it everyday with the left and their social media sewer tools. If you question stuff…..like Bolt did during the week about St Kevin’s……then you are smeared and silenced…and of course…Bolt being Bolt the Dolt who who craves being liked by everybody (like Tony Abbott)…prostrated himself at the alter of the left after they had castrated him. And Bettina Arndt…who was smeared last night by a supposed conservative….the lynch mobs on social media are probably smearing and hanging Arndt today as I write.

    There is nothing “looming”…it is here.

  8. Tel

    If your only argument is “Shut up before I hit yez!” that means you actually don’t have an argument at all.

    As for the inevitable comment, “Those network operators are private and can do what they want!” this is BS, they are highly regulated, they cannot do what they want and they need to stay on the good side of government if they want to keep their business. Also, there are strict limits in terms of how many operators are allowed, so it runs as a cartel system, not a free market.

    Would be interested to know if the bloxor list is nation wide, or changes depending on the carrier. Not sure if you were using the mobile network or perhaps there’s WiFi at the airport.

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    And our so called right of centre government is no better.

  10. Crossie

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3331306, posted on February 22, 2020 at 9:16 am
    The problem is the MSM is about 96% in the tank for the Left.
    So the Right has moved to blogs.
    Hence the censorship.

    The Left does not tolerate competition in thought or deed, it’s their way or the highway even/or especially on the information highway.

  11. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    everything the left touches turns to shit. When they are in power they accelerate our civilisation’s terminal decline. this is what the fall of the Roman empire must have felt like, slow, inevitable, corruption, degeneracy overrun by barbarians, and their lunatic enablers.

  12. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Anything that does not fit with the narrative of the left is now hate speech. Simply stating that you are heterosexual is hate speech. Simply stating that you are a Christian is hate speech. None of this is on the radar of mainstream society as it gets on with the business of just getting by and making a living. But its all going on quietly in the background and in the MSM and politics and mainstream society is in for a big shock when the penny finally drops. One day it will be a punishable offence if you even look like you might have had a ‘hate thought’ let alone actually uttering one. Think that’s a bit far fetched?

  13. struth

    The nanny state starts by pretending it has noble intention of protecting people from “Hate and Racism” so it can end up censoring very moderate traditional conservatives.”

    FIFY

  14. Crossie

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3331324, posted on February 22, 2020 at 9:32 am
    And our so called right of centre government is no better.

    “So called” is right, the current government is way to the left of their voters who are actually centre right. The government is not even in the centre as they like to think. Both sides of the politics are arguing for our economic destruction to appease the weather gods and their only difference is how quickly to accomplish it.

    I just do not understand the level of stupidity of the political class, they oppose economic destruction in favour of stopping climate change and “unexpectedly” win an election. Before their bums have even touched green and red leather in Canberra they forget what got them there.

    The media are easier to understand – simple ignorance and overwhelming arrogance that the electorate cannot influence.

  15. C.L.

    This was posted at Ace’s yesterday …
    Shows NZ cops interrogating a bloke for criticising the government online.
    Can’t find any other details.

  16. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I have zero sympathy for the individual who operates that joke of a site, given he’s a vocal supporter of censorship and the nanny state.

  17. Infidel Tiger

    Sad to see Steve is now running a racist hate site!

  18. lotocoti

    Sad to see Steve is now running a racist hate site!

    Well he was the only one true conservative© to comment here.
    ©SfB

  19. Cynic of Ayr

    I don’t know if this will work, but try it.
    I got it from open thread on instapundit yesterday.
    https://twitter.com/OntWtf/status/1230669714453434369

  20. Chris M

    Is that Bird’s website Sinc?

  21. Cynic of Ayr

    Um… dunno, Chris.
    PJ Media runs Instapundant.
    This came from an Open thread part.
    I have no idea who the poster is.
    Why? Do you think there’s something wrong with it? I’m interested in the reason for your question.

    There was another one, and I’ll never find it now, where two “Detectives” interviewed a feller, and he recorded it.
    They asked him not to record, but he insisted, and they did nothing about it.
    The two came across as either morons, or they just did not want to be there. I suspect the latter.

  22. Lee

    But for Winston Peters, the Ardern government would not even be in office.

    I reckon most of Peters’ voters in his electorate would not have wanted her party in government, the same as Windsor’s (and probably Oakeshott’s) electorate would not have wanted him to back a Gillard Labor government.

  23. Chris M

    Cynic sorry I was referring to the website Sinclair listed at the top. The clip you posted at 12:14 is terrific, loved it. Two things – useless plods unthinking plods and two if this is typical NZ in knackered.

  24. MPH

    What bemused said times a squillion

  25. Brislurker

    It’s very difficult to get onto SfB’s site, not sure if it is because Bird comments there. Having been on this blog for a long while, I like to check out Steve’s opinion every now and then. I cannot get onto it through either Opera, or Edge, but do with Chrome.

  26. Cynic of Ayr

    Chris M,
    Oh right. Here I was thinking you just couldn’t spell Cync. 🙂
    Silly me.
    You’re right though. This is happening In NZ. Staid ol’ conservative, Empire loving NZ. Not any more apparently.

    Regards…

  27. areff

    Even since the kiwi mos que massacre I haven’t been able to load Blazing Cat Fur.

    https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/

    Anyone else have this problem?

    It was listed as a “hate site” after publishing the killer’s addled I-love-China manifesto.

  28. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Is that Bird’s website Sinc?

    No, this is:

    http://www.fractionalreservejooodaism.com

  29. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Actually, this is the real one – accept no substitutes:

    https://graemebird.wordpress.com/

    Trigger Warning: Bizarre Parallel Universe

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    At Heathrow airport, using airport-provided wifi, I got the same response when I tried to load up Breitbart.

    Breitbart!! All thanks to Richard Branson’s system which was the one Heathrow was using.

  31. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Branson’s little spiel was something along the lines of not wishing to ‘offend’ any users of the airport wifi which was ‘also available to children’. Bletch.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Catallaxy’s next. One of the genuinely free speech sites on the internet with very few blots on that copy book. Rules are few and tolerances are many within the bounds of human decency. Stays entirely legal too. Ruined by trolls sometimes though in an excess of human kindliness on the part of the blog owner. They could be limited in some way so that they don’t hog or derail threads.

    Personal opinion of course. His blog, his choice. 🙂

  33. Squirrel

    Oh for the halycon days of yore when the NZ definition of hate speech would have been sledging the All Blacks.

  34. Ellie

    What actually is “free speech”? It’s made too complex by conservatives, libertarians, leftists, totalitarians, tarts and libertines.

  35. Ellie!
    Whenever you see an attached qualifier, you know a Collectivist is trying to invert the meaning.
    #ruleofthumb

  36. bespoke

    It is not too complex, Ellie it is as it should be.

  37. Iampeter

    Gotta love all the posters who would support something like the Prager lawsuit trying to force tech companies to host content, suddenly getting all “anti-censorship” when “the left” is trying to force tech companies re their content.

    Too funny.

  38. Ellie

    I clicked on your link, Spurgeon. I had never read his comments before. He certainly despises Sinc and J*ws.

  39. Ellie

    I clicked on your link, Spurgeon. I had never read his comments before. He certainly despises Sinc and Joos.

  40. bespoke

    Predictable simpletons response from Imp.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Free speech needs some more amusing and varied toons on the Open Forum, Ellie.
    Steve Trickler’s got twice the workload since you dipped out of that late-nite job.
    Take pity on him. 🙂

  42. Ellie

    Hi Lizzie. I was away and out of internet range for a few weeks. Will take a gander. 🙂

  43. Even since the kiwi mos que massacre I haven’t been able to load Blazing Cat Fur.
    https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/
    Anyone else have this problem?
    It was listed as a “hate site” after publishing the killer’s addled I-love-China manifesto.

    areff, it is the dns.

    Change your DNS servers to
    1.1.1.1` and 1.0.0.1

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