Open Forum: February 22, 2020

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  1. mh

    Sodomy should be recriminalised

    I would fight that tooth and nail.

    For Heaven’s sake, why??

    Good job Elle is no longer posting here.

  2. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #3335608, posted on February 26, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    Sodomy should be recriminalised

    I would fight that tooth and nail.

    #MeToo. Personal loathing of an activity is no basis for criminalising it. Otherwise I’d be in favour of charging and hanging all lefties.

  3. Cardimona

    COM, brilliant; I want one!

    And yes, I’ll have to strategically place some poly pipe around the joint.

  4. Gwendolyn

    Personal loathing of an activity is no basis for criminalising it.

    I suspect you voted for same-sex “marriage” too?

    When a nation rejects God’s natural law it is doomed.

  5. DrBeauGan

    For Heaven’s sake, why??

    Because if you want to make illegal some acts based purely on your own beliefs and prejudices, you have to expect the opposition to do the same.

  6. DrBeauGan

    I suspect you voted for same-sex “marriage” too?

    You’re wrong about that too.

  7. Twostix

    Because if you want to make illegal some acts based purely on your own beliefs and prejudices, you have to expect the opposition to do the same.

    They already are.

  8. calli

    Why would you select sodomy out of any number of unattractive, unhealthy activities for special attention?

    How about gluttony, or sloth? Or a dash of envy? Or smoking?

    Criminalising sexual practises between consenting adults imposes upon their personal liberty. It is retrograde. I don’t like it, and I don’t approve of it. But I’m not about to send someone to gaol over it.

  9. DrBeauGan

    When a nation rejects God’s natural law it is doomed.

    When a nation becomes a theocracy it is doomed. Until it returns to separation of church and state at least. See the Muslim world as a working example of this, but there have been others.

  10. Gwendolyn

    Why would you select sodomy out of any number of unattractive, unhealthy activities for special attention?

    God selected sodomy for special condemnation.

    Once Australia was a nation of Judeo-Christian laws and ethics. Look at what has happened since we turned our back on God.

  11. DrBeauGan

    They already are.

    Yes, I know. And it’s for the same reasons as Gwendolyn thinks it’s a good idea: religious fervour. Different religion, of course.

  12. calli

    Grrrr. I’ve just had some mongrel do a suss transaction on my CC. Nothing remains but to cancel the card, which I have.

    The usual crapola – an insignificant trial charge, soon to be followed by an avalanche of purchases. Hopefully it’s nipped in the bud. But it’s a darned nuisance.

  13. DrBeauGan

    DrBeauGan
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #3335622, posted on February 26, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    When a nation rejects God’s natural law it is doomed.

    When a nation becomes a theocracy it is doomed. Until it returns to separation of church and state at least. See the Mus lom world as a working example of this, but there have been others.

  14. stackja

    Relieved Reynolds opens up about his nine ‘tumultuous’ weeks
    Wests Tigers star Josh Reynolds has told of his sheer relief at the police’s move to drop a charge of domestic violence levelled against him by his ex Arabella Del Busso, describing the nine weeks since he was charged as “tumultuous” and “difficult”.

    Danielle Gusmaroli and David Riccio, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
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    February 26, 2020 3:06pm

    Wests Tigers star Josh Reynolds has told of his sheer relief at the police’s move to drop a charge of domestic violence levelled against him by his ex Arabella Del Busso, describing the nine weeks since he was charged as “tumultuous” and “difficult”.

    Speaking for the first time since the decision today to drop the charge of assault occasioning bodily harm brought by model Arabella Del Busso, Reynolds said his arrest has plagued his 2020 NRL preparation and affected his reputation.

    ARABELLA DEL BUSSO RESPONDS
    Del Busso this afternoon said she has been left “shocked” at the police decision not to pursue the case and has instructed her lawyer to find out why it was dropped.

    “We have received no formal communications from NSW Police and we have not been informed of the reasons for their decision to drop domestic violence and assault charges against Mr Reynolds,” her lawyer Rhys Roberts told the Daily Telegraph.

    “We will have further discussions with Arabella before advising her of the options for further legal action.

    “The information we have received to date from Arabella is more than sufficient to seriously consider legal action against Mr Reynolds.

    “We (and she) are shocked at her treatment by the NSW Police.

    “We will be seeking a full and frank explanation from NSW Police regarding their reasons as to why they have reportedly dropped charges of assault.”

    Del Busso is under investigation after more than ten other men came forward to police claiming she duped them separately of thousands of dollars by faking cancer and the deaths of relatives, whose funerals she said she could not afford.

    Reynolds’ nightmare came to a head last October when he took himself to a meeting with the NRL Integrity Unit and police to disclose the nature of his relationship with Del Busso.

    It was after Reynolds held the private briefing in October last year that Del Busso filed a complaint against the NRL star. It led to him being charged in December with assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

    Del Busso is said to be lying low in Melbourne amid claims she also duped Reynolds out of thousands of dollars and tricked him into thinking she miscarried their unborn twins and lost two more pregnancies.

    He maintains he was the subject of a calculated plot by his ex who faked multiple pregnancies and even lied about suffering from cancer — claims she vehemently rejects.

    Reynolds’ defence also claims she digitally manipulated images to give the illusion she was pregnant.

    Model Del Busso, originally from Traralgon, Melbourne, has never been charged with any criminal offence.

    The Telegraph revealed she received $10,000 from former lover Michael Hayes by faking four funerals — including her mother’s — and feigning poverty for loans she never repaid.

    Mr Hayes, a 36-year-old father from Sanctuary Cove in Queensland, successfully sued Ms Del Busso for fraud and obtaining money by deception and was awarded $7866 via a Queensland tribunal in 2019.

    It is also alleged, ten years ago she feigned brain cancer and seizures to con then boyfriend Brendan Van Slageren and their friends out of almost $10,000 to pay for surgery on the incurable disease she claimed had given her just 18 months to live.

    Father-of-two Mr Van Slageren says he regrets falling for her when she was a trainee at AFL Sports Ready at Kurmai Precinct Campus.

    Del Busso has been contacted for comment.

    “Victim” says. He says.

  15. calli

    How about idolatry? Nope. Not on the books.

    Yet idolatry is the act that destroys people and nations, not sodomy.

    Being the good Christian that you are, you know exactly what idolatry entails. And we all do it.

  16. jo

    I hope your grand kids Dad receives the same subliminal messaging. You have a wise head on those shoulders as do many here but your written skills are superb.

  17. Confused Old Misfit

    I have been having fun playing with a robot vacuum cleaner and driving my wife crazy!
    We octogenarians lead such wild lives!

  18. what’s the difference between sodomy and buggery?

  19. Struth

    Sticking your tockley up ya chum’s bum is dangerous to your health.
    It shouldn’t be banned but I see no reason why it can’t be taxed like they do smoking!
    Government pretends to be so caring and ready to tax people out of poo r decisions as they see it.
    Why does freckle stretching get a pass?

  20. Struth

    Why doesn’t the government ban deep water starts for homo water skiers?

  21. Tailgunner

    We make sure we announce who we are, a right wing activist group and ask two or three questions.

    From my man, struth, earlier…
    Reverse Zali?
    Ooooo hilarious.
    Yes, we need to start splitting the LNPe right down the middle.
    Target the lamest leftists? Yep. But we’ll need to run our own, AltRight Zali to steal the deplorables and flip the seat red….

  22. DrBeauGan

    Government pretends to be so caring and ready to tax people out of poo r decisions as they see it.
    Why does freckle stretching get a pass?

    The government doesn’t regard that as a poor decision, Struth. They go out of their way in the opposite direction. We have to celebrate the buggers.

  23. Struth

    A woman can be sodomised and is seldom buggered.
    Men can be buggered whether receiving or not.
    Men bugger men but oddly women do it more.

  24. cohenite

    Oh good, an anal sex thread.

  25. Struth

    We need a set activist’s thread, and Sinc could set one up easily.
    He studiously ignores me as much as he can, so who’s in his good books, C’mon, you can put it to him…………………..

    Open letters to pollies, engaging Sky News, campaigning against the ABC, etc.
    What fun could be had.

  26. Tailgunner

    MSDNC – like 👍

    Killshots are just second nature to the god Emperor.
    You just know he’ll run Commie Bernie up the flagpole and A-B test it.
    😃

  27. Cardimona

    ban deep water starts for homo water skiers

    Mandatory duct tape?

  28. Cardimona

    who’s in his good books

    (Can’t believe I’m saying this…)

    Numbers!
    Get in here!

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    Nice to know that Deb Freckleface and the QLD LNP have their priorities right…..ready for the coming election….guaranteed vote winner…NOT….

    “Hannah Clarke family murders: Queensland Libs announce new domestic violence election policy

    Queensland’s Liberal National Party will order an immediate review of the state’s family violence criminal justice system and introduce a new domestic violence offence of coercive control, if it wins the October election.

    In a major policy announcement in the wake of the murders of Hannah Clarke and her three children by her estranged husband last week, Opposition leader Deb Frecklington has also promised to introduce a summary domestic violence offence.

    The Women’s Legal Service Queensland is calling for a broad review of the criminal justice system and consideration of a separate criminal offence to punish coercive control, a pattern of abusive, intimidatory and controlling behaviour that has been identified as a “red flag” for murder.

    The Queensland Police Union have for years advocated for a stand-alone criminal offence of “commit domestic violence,” that would back up the current system of civil-based domestic protection orders.

    The LNP has committed to reviewing the entire domestic violence criminal justice legal framework to implement new laws such as coercive control and a specific domestic violence summary offence.

    The new laws would allow police to issue domestic violence orders on the spot.

    The LNP would also increase the maximum penalty for strangulation from seven years’ jail to 14 years’ jail, and would roll out personal safety devices to high-risk people. $2000 grants for emergency accommodation would also be made available.

    LNP Leader Ms Frecklington said it was clear the current system was not working and needed an overhaul.

    “The Not Now Not Ever report (conducted by Quentin Bryce into domestic violence in QLD) was an important review, but it’s now five years old and we need a fresh set of eyes,” Ms Frecklington said.

    “The LNP will commence an immediate review of the entire DV legal framework to implement new laws such as coercive control and a specific domestic violence summary offence.

    “The UK led the way with coercive control laws that were implemented after the Not Now Not Ever report was handed down.

    “Domestic violence isn’t just physical, it’s emotional and financial control that can have a significant impact as well.

    “We also want to empower police to issue on-the-spot domestic violence orders, providing an immediate response to help families while taking pressure off our overburdened courts.

    “Tasmania has introduced police-issued domestic violence orders and it’s something we should strongly consider.”

    Separate to the LNP’s announcement, Deakin Law School doctoral candidate Paul McGorrery, who is about to publish a book about criminalising coercive control, said the abusive behaviour was not just a red flag for future serious violence, but also harmful in the present moment.

    “It can involve the perpetrator putting video cameras at the front of the home, deleting all male contacts from their partner’s phone, stopping their partner from working, so we need an offence that broadly captures it and training for police and prosecutors when to, and when not to, use it,” Mr McGorrery said.

    He said criminalising coercive control would not be a panacea for domestic violence, but would play a “small but important role” in a holistic response.

    “It demonstrates the state’s denunciation of the behaviour, and legitimises the victims’ perceptions of what they’re going through,” Mr McGorrery said.

    “At the moment, coercive control, it’s only (legally wrong) when there’s an intervention order in place and there’s a breach.”

    “Criminalising it would give the broader community a language and shared understanding, and hopefully (lead to) a long-term change in behaviour.”

    “It would also give police and other in the justice system a tool to intervene earlier. I’ll never say tragic intimate partner homicide could have been prevented, because of the many complex factors (at play), but (criminalising coercive control) has the potential, if police are intervening earlier, to save lives.”

    But some advocates are doubtful that adding another domestic violence criminal offence will be effective.

    Heather Nancarrow, the CEO of Australia’s National Research Organisation for Women’s Safety warned governments to “proceed very carefully” before making such a law.

    “I’m very cautious,” Dr Nancarrow said. “I think it’s a respectful argument we’re having in Australia about this issue, but one of the things I’d say to you, there’s not a lack of criminal law in this area. We have laws on strangulation, stalking and rape. But trying to get another law that’s difficult or impossible to prove, or apply in particular cases.”

    “I don’t know if adding another law, on top of the current system, without being able to improve the overall system’s response, is the answer.”

  30. Struth

    ban deep water starts for homo water skiers

    Mandatory duct tape?
    Well, at the very least, or else you could find yourself on the edge of the river giving CPR to the fool.
    NB…….make sure you drag his arse out of the water before pumping the chest.

  31. Mater

    We need a set activist’s thread, and Sinc could set one up easily.
    He studiously ignores me as much as he can, so who’s in his good books, C’mon, you can put it to him…………………..

    It’s not me, Struth. Someone else’ll need to convince him.
    He won’t even let me change my callsign to “Farsi”.

  32. Struth

    It’s not me, Struth.

    That was a given…………………..

    Let me see, who thought Mal-cum was a good pick besides Sinclair?

    Shit, nobody!

  33. Fat Tony

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3335653, posted on February 26, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    I got a simple idea – let’s make murder illegal!! That should do it.

  34. Tailgunner

    God selected sodomy for special condemnation
    Funny, St Peter never mentions it when we have talk?

  35. calli

    “Criminalising it would give the broader community a language and shared understanding, and hopefully (lead to) a long-term change in behaviour.”

    I see it as an excellent pathway for false accusations. How could it be proved? What evidence would be acceptable?

  36. Tailgunner

    Oh good, an anal sex thread.

    Stop trolling, cohenite, it’s NTSoB!
    🤣🤣

  37. Fat Tony

    Tailgunner
    #3335664, posted on February 26, 2020 at 4:28 pm
    God selected sodomy for special condemnation
    Funny, St Peter never mentions it when we have talk?

    He’s not chatting you up, is he??

  38. Cassie of Sydney

    “Fat Tony
    #3335663, posted on February 26, 2020 at 4:26 pm
    Cassie of Sydney
    #3335653, posted on February 26, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    I got a simple idea – let’s make murder illegal!! That should do it.”

    They want to make “men”…actually…more specifically…”white men” illegal. Wait till our august senate produces a motion censuring “white men”…why I bet a Green has already thought of that. And of course those stupid fucking cretins that constitute the LNP will support the motion.

  39. Tailgunner

    I’ve just had some mongrel do a suss transaction on my CC. Nothing remains but to cancel the card, which I have

    There has to be an epic MasterCard, priceless ad in this Chicks W/Visas getting schwhacked?

  40. Tailgunner

    He’s not chatting you up, is he??

    Nah nah, he’s my guy on the door/personal adviser on moral issues. No horse tips,but.

  41. Struth

    Callie, that’s a bit steep, fair enough if they blow .o2 I suppose, but straight murder, it’s quite offensive to many non alcoholic murderers to call them criminals, for many it’s a cultural issue, and indeed expected.
    We have more severe problems.
    Some people have been caught doing 104kph in a 100 zone.
    Hoons who put smoke into the atmosphere from burnouts and climate change deniers.

  42. Tailgunner

    Stimps would ban bicycling, for sure.
    You’d be able to get some new skool Aussie denim though. Artisanal style.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    A sodomy thread.

    Aaah, that takes me back.

  44. calli

    ‘Gunner, I think it’s the random numbers and waiting for a hit scam. There appeared to be a time lag involved. I was able to cancel after advising my bank and withdrawing some cash from the local to tide me over until re-issue.

    The thing has a $40k limit, so I’m tempted to split a new one for purely domestic purposes and the other for the business. It’s just too tempting for the crims.

  45. Struth

    Bloody hell

    Fat Tony, I do apologise.

    FMD,

  46. Tailgunner

    Did Uncle Joe seriously say he was running for US Senate, as reported here earlier?
    Lol if true

  47. 8th Dan

    He won’t even let me change my callsign to “Farsi”.

    Soldier, show some initiative. When you next comment, just change Mater to Farsi in the Name field … see what happens.

  48. Cassie of Sydney

    “Struth
    #3335678, posted on February 26, 2020 at 4:36 pm
    cassie sorry”

    Sorry for what Struth? You’ve done nothing wrong.

  49. 8th Dan

    God selected sodomy for special condemnation

    Care to point out where God actually mentioned sodomy?
    A bible reference will do.

  50. calli

    We appear to be interchangeable, Cassie.

    Are you 5’3 and a bit with grey hair and a twinkle in your eye? 😁

  51. Roger

    Except the childcare rebate: $7500 per child per year plus the subsidies going to daycares wipes out any tax paid.

    The push to get mothers into the workforce predates those subsidies. Mothers who couldn’t rely on relatives to child mind waited until the kids were school aged, hence the phenomenon of latch key kids in the 1980s. Then came before and after school care and the day care “industry”.

  52. DrBeauGan

    Care to point out where God actually mentioned sodomy?
    A bible reference will do.

    Ah, smiting the town of Sodom? That seems to suggest a certain disapproval of what went on there.

  53. Cassie of Sydney

    Calli darling….5’7, brown hair and many twinkles in my eyes!

  54. Struth

    I attributed Fat Tony’s comment to both you and calli when I meant to answer him.
    Going nuts.

    It’s because you’re scaring me.
    I reckon Mrs Struth would dob me into Authorities as quick as a flash next time she gets the irrates.
    Don’t tell anyone but she knows I’m a white man.

  55. 8th Dan

    Bogus … no mention in the bible, or anywhere else by God, of sodomy.

    The town of Sodom is mentioned only for adultery and lying.

  56. Struth

    Where does the word Sodomy come from 1/8th of a brain?

  57. Roger

    Oh dear, the Bible expert is back.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    Sodomy AND scripture interpretation!

    What luck!

  59. Struth

    Sodom and Gomorrah have been used historically and in modern discourse as metaphors for homosexuality, and are the origin of the English words, sodomite, a pejorative term for male homosexuals, and sodomy, which is used in a legal context to describe sexual crimes against nature, namely anal or oral sex (particularly homosexual) and bestiality.[7][8][9] This is based upon exegesis of the biblical text interpreting divine judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah as punishment for the sin of homosexuality, though some contemporary scholars dispute this interpretation.[10][11][12] Some Islamic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sharia.[13]

  60. duncanm

    For Heaven’s sake, why??

    one can guess.

  61. Fat Tony

    8th Dan
    #3335697, posted on February 26, 2020 at 4:49 pm
    Bogus … no mention in the bible, or anywhere else by God, of sodomy.
    The town of Sodom is mentioned only for adultery and lying.

    You’re ok then 8thDan – you may continue with your sodomy until your nose runs and your arse bleeds.

  62. Struth

    Sodom and Gomorrah have been used historically and in modern discourse as metaphors for homose xuality, and are the origin of the English words, sodomite, a pejorative term for male homosexuals, and sodomy, which is used in a legal context to describe sexual crimes against nature, namely anal or oral sex (particularly homosexual) and bestiality.[7][8][9] This is based upon exegesis of the biblical text interpreting divine judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah as punishment for the sin of homosexuality, though some contemporary scholars dispute this interpretation.[10][11][12] Some Islumic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sha ria.[13]

  63. Struth

    Sod om and Gom orrah have been used historically and in modern discourse as metaphors for ho mose xuality, and are the origin of the English words, sodomite, a pejorative term for male homosexuals, and sodomy, which is used in a legal context to describe sexual crimes against nature, namely an al or oral sex (particularly homosexual) and be sti ality.[7][8][9] This is based upon exe gesis of the biblical text interpreting divine judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah as punishment for the sin of homosexuality, though some contemporary scholars dispute this interpretation.[10][11][12] Some Isluuumic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sha ria.[13

  64. duncanm

    criminalising coercive control

    ahh – would that include withholding children from their biological father ?

  65. calli

    – haughty and proud
    – not helping the needy
    – committing abominations

    The episode in Genesis 19 expands upon the last point from Ezekiel. It also illustrated the terrible moral influence the city had on Lot and his family.

    It isn’t the only instance – the book of Judges has another example.

  66. 8th Dan

    I know I’m ok Phony.
    What you might do or want to continue with is entirely your own beeswax.
    Make sure you wash your hands before touching your keyboard.

  67. Geriatric Mayfly

    There is a persistent old-wives tale that snakes produce that hissing sibilant sound from their mouths.

    Hissing maybe a myth; but tiger snakes when none best pleased will vent a sound like a small bark. Difficult to describe, but I have roused three to vocal displeasure and backed off accordingly.

  68. Roger

    It isn’t the only instance – the book of Judges has another example.

    19:22.

    And Lev 18:22 condemns the sin.

    In Romans 1 Paul states that the prevalence of homosexuality in pagan society is a symptom of idolatry.

  69. 8th Dan

    Sod om and Gom orrah have been used historically and in modern discourse as metaphors for ho mose xuality, and are the origin of the English words, sodomite, a pejorative term for male homosexuals, and sodomy, which is used in a legal context to describe sexual crimes against nature, namely an al or oral sex (particularly homosexual) and be sti ality.[7][8][9] This is based upon exe gesis of the biblical text interpreting divine judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah as punishment for the sin of homosexuality, though some contemporary scholars dispute this interpretation.[10][11][12] Some Isluuumic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sha ria.[13

    Well googled/wikied … but sodomy is not mentioned in the bible.

  70. a sound like a small bark

    Never heard that (over the sound of the shotgun).

  71. criminalising coercive control

    ahh – would that include withholding children from their biological father ?

    You’d be referring to:
    “Safeguarding children from burning petrol”
    & nope, it won’t be illegal, it may even be mandatory.

  72. stackja

    Hun reports ALP to increase rubbish taxes.

  73. Struth

    In other words Sodomy is anal sex , even oral sex [which none of is actual sexual intercourse] in a homosexual act, and is seen as a sin.
    I don’t mean to be crude but need to be, for shame, to make the point.
    Christians and the bible have nothing against head jobs between heteros.
    Homosexual acts are according to the old testament, Bad enough to burn the town down and modern “scholars” [people who wish to change da rules] don’t like it.

  74. calli

    ahh – would that include withholding children from their biological father ?

    Unless they make the law gender specific, that could be an easily verified example. And put Mum in the go-slow.

    Unintended consequences.

  75. Ed Case

    I see it as an excellent pathway for false accusations. How could it be proved? What evidence would be acceptable?

    Thats correct from the point of view of the police trying to eradicate it. The War on Sodomy if you like.
    Sodomy laws were intended to protect the weak and vulnerable in society for their own good and for the general good. rather than as a witch hunt of sodomites.
    That was a time when a mans home was his castle and the entire criminal code was maybe 20 pages if that.
    Repeal of the Sodomy laws was the thin edge of the wedge replacing the welfare of the mass with concern for the rights of the individual.
    Fast forward in the 50 year hunt to find people who need legislation to protect them and we’re down to people with 1 in a million genetic abnormalities and violent criminals with a distant indigenous ancestor.
    Meanwhile the criminal code in queensland is up to 80,000 pages and if everyone isn’t a criminal yet they will be if Deb Frecklington ever takes over.

  76. Roger

    … but sodomy is not mentioned in the bible.

    The Bible uses different terms to describe the act of sodomy.

  77. areff

    Anyone with snakes to spare is welcome to deposit them in a Hobsons Bay yellow-lid recycling bin, where they might dissuade the council’s little green pests from picking through residents’ trash to determine if it is likely to offend Gaia.

  78. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Thailand has reported three new cases today, taking total infections to 40, Reuters is reporting, citing Sukhum Kanchanapimai, permanent secretary at the health ministry.

    The patients are all Thai nationals. Two had returned from holidays in Japan’s northern island of Hokkaido, and came into contact with the third.

  79. 8th Dan

    In other words …

    Nope … that doesn’t work.
    What you need to do is specify where in the bible it says the word “sodomy”.

    PS: “abomination” doesn’t cut it either.

    #whatizzysaidisanabomination

  80. DrBeauGan

    … but sodomy is not mentioned in the bible.

    The Bible uses different terms to describe the act of sodomy.

    Such as _abomination_. Which doesn’t sound exactly tolerant to me.

  81. Roger

    What you need to do is specify where in the bible it says the word “sodomy”.

    The Bible wasn’t written in English, you twit.

  82. DrBeauGan

    Nope … that doesn’t work.
    What you need to do is specify where in the bible it says the word “sodomy”.

    You really are a fuckwit. You think the word is crucial but the meaning doesn’t matter.

  83. areff, a bunch of redbacks might also work.

  84. Struth

    Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. And he said, “Now behold, my lords, please turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” They said however, “No, but we shall spend the night in the square.” Yet he urged them strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.read more.
    Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; and they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.” But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, “Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. “Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof.” But they said, “Stand aside.” Furthermore, they said, “This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them.” So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door.

  85. Tailgunner

    Hahaha, it IS true!
    Uncle Joe is done.
    Betfair raid tonight…

  86. areff

    Hun reports ALP to increase rubbish taxes.

    To cover the cost of the four-bin recycling extravaganza coming to a nature strip near you, as it has already done in Hobsons Bay. Well here’s an idea:

    The new glass-only bin is intended to keep the paper/plastics bin bin free of glass, which cpntaminates the latter and makes it unsuitable for pulping and reprocessing.

    So, slip a beer bottle inside every old milk carton and keep a hammer handy by the bin to give it a few good pulverising whacks.

    They want to charge even more to fullfil the most basic municipal service? Let ’em earn their money.

  87. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    testing seems rather inaccurate?

    Passengers who were allowed off the virus-stricken ship are continuing to develop symptoms, and several of the 970 who were allowed off last week after testing negative have since developed the Covid-19 illness, including another Australian passenger announced today.

  88. Struth

    When you make a fucking dickhead of yourself, we can now call it doing the “Dan”
    before Dan, we would have called it making a dickhead of yourself.

    Sodomy the word, was born from the homosexual acts expressed in the bible as above.
    And the bible makes it very clear, and calls it a sin.
    Just saying.

  89. calli

    Since the first known useage of the English word “Sodomy” was in the 13th Century, it’s unsurprising it isn’t used in the Bible (either Old or New Testaments).

    Other words are used to express the same thing.

    The Bible doesn’t talk about genera or species either – “each to its own kind”. And Leviathan is a whale.

    And a rainbow isn’t an endorsement of homosexuality – it’s an enduring promise.

  90. Twostix

    “It can involve the perpetrator putting video cameras at the front of the home, deleting all male contacts from their partner’s phone, stopping their partner from working, so we need an offence that broadly captures it and training for police and prosecutors when to, and when not to, use it,” Mr McGorrery said.

    They’re talking about emotional manipulation here. But notice the entire discussion is about females as the victim.

    As if men aren’t controlled by women in bad relationships at the same (or worse) rates.

    And so the obvious question is why don’t they just leave if it’s not a violent relationship?

    The answer they’re giving very loudly is because women can’t stand up to their men emotionally and need the police to rescue them from shitty but not violent relationships.

  91. Top Ender

    Air New Zealand has unveiled new triple-decker bunk beds for its economy cabin which it hopes to use on Auckland-New York flights.

    Known as “skynest” the pod of six narrow lie-flat beds are the result of three years of research to improve the experience of passengers in economy class.

    Although Air New Zealand will not make a final decision on whether to use the skynest product until next year, chief marketing and customer officer Mike Tod said they were “committed to putting more magic back into flying”.

    ….

    Each bed measures more than 200cm in length and more than 58cm in width. It is intended each pod will include a full-size pillow, sheets and blankets along with privacy curtains and lighting designed for sleep.

    Oz

  92. P

    Remember that you are dust, and to dust you shall return

    Ash Wednesday 26th February, 2020

    Repent, and believe in the Gospel

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    Mass on Demand comes to you every day from the Jesuit church of St Francis Xavier via the CathNews YouTube channel.
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  93. Lysander

    FIFY: 🙂

    Air New Zealand has unveiled new triple-decker bunk beds for its CORONAVIRUS cabin which it hopes to use on Auckland-New York flights.

  94. calli

    TE, that reminds me of the American old movies where the railway bunks were tiered.

    This one (complete with cross-dressers – a h/t to the other discussion on the OT) 😁

  95. Tailgunner

    Meh, laying Unkie Joe is outlaying $10 to get $11 back.
    Minus the Betfair 5% skim.
    Not worth the risk.

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘we need an offence that broadly captures it’

    Yeah nah yeah nah nah nah. Ain’t gonna fly.

    Nobody needs an offence that broadly captures anything, because there are existing specific offences for that sort of shit (when grouped together).

  97. Tiered bunks in an aircraft cabin will be different to tiered bunks in a railway sleeper cabin…. how?

  98. calli

    Manhattans will fend of Covid19.

    Oh ye of little faith.

  99. Top Ender

    Three bunks could take up around the same room as three seats on an aircraft if they were designed properly.

    The triple “racks” on a warship have a drawer at the deck level – one for each person, and then three bunks above that.

    Full length curtains.

    Probably lose some bag space but.

  100. Mark A

    Top Ender
    #3335743, posted on February 26, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    Air New Zealand has unveiled new triple-decker bunk beds for its economy cabin which it hopes to use on Auckland-New York flights.

    Seen a similar thing in the US but used on a long range bus.
    Passengers all very appreciative of it.

    I would try it for sure.

  101. Tailgunner

    Hehe, Betfair are funny bastards.
    They have a Nominee Forecast market.
    Trump/Sanders @ 1.89-
    But they also have a Kasich/Biden contest @ (a modest) 160-
    🤣🤣

  102. Confused Old Misfit

    Tiered bunks in an aircraft cabin will be different to tiered bunks in a railway sleeper cabin…. how?

    No clickety clack, clickety clack.

  103. Tailgunner

    Yeah nah yeah nah nah nah. Ain’t gonna fly
    As usual, Nolezy nails it.

  104. Struth

    Since the first known useage of the English word “Sodomy” was in the 13th Century, it’s unsurprising it isn’t used in the Bible (either Old or New Testaments).

    Around the time the Bible was translated for the common folk.

    I’m just putting it out there.
    To me homosexuality is a disorder and people with disorders should not be discriminated against.

    There are also Sodomites and Fornicators.
    Whole towns don’t suffer disorders, so many are just sick lazy arseholes as well.
    A lesbian with a dildo is just a confused Misandrist

    A life of sex at all costs, always, is not necessary and therefore is no excuse.
    I just don’t want to hear about your private sex life and celebrating it on the streets of Sodom, er Sydney, …………….what are you celebrating exactly?
    Who gives a rats?

  105. Twostix

    I had a friend in a terrible relationship. He was cutoff from everyone, stalked, manipulated, etc.

    He weakly left her a couple of times but kept taking her back.

    Then one day in their rockiest period, just when it looked like he might actually be really ready to leave her she magically “forgot” to take the pill for a while and got pregnant.

    No escape now.

    Is that domestic violence under the above definition of manipulation and control?

  106. Tailgunner

    Knuckles – either a tranny or a 40 y/O muscle gym chick just walked in.
    Is it impolite to go the Crocodile Dundee before six?
    In inert city Yarragrad?

  107. “It can involve the perpetrator putting video cameras at the front of the home, deleting all male contacts from their partner’s phone, stopping their partner from working, so we need an offence that broadly captures it and training for police and prosecutors when to, and when not to, use it,” Mr McGorrery said.

    No female has ever deleted all female contacts from her partner’s phone – nor has any female ever demanded her partner break off all contact with females who are not immediate relatives.

  108. Struth

    “It can involve the perpetrator putting video cameras at the front of the home, deleting all male contacts from their partner’s phone, stopping their partner from working, so we need an offence that broadly captures it and training for police and prosecutors when to, and when not to, use it,” Mr McGorrery said.
    So she can’t leave him?
    He hasn’t been violent so does da widdle miss need her arse wiped as well?

  109. 8th Dan

    Roger that … the bible is mostly written in English these days. But I’d be happy for you to show me the equivalent of “sodomy” in the Hebrew bible.

    Bogus … civility please. I know you have an inflated sense of your own worth … but I don’t buy it, old man … not at all.
    The word is indeed crucial, and has a specific meaning.Gwen said “God selected sodomy for special condemnation.”, but it is not in the bible. Nor is the activity it describes mentioned in relation to the town of Sodom, from which others have ascribed its name … only “adultery” and “lying” are so mentioned.

    Struth … lots of words, but no mention of sodomy.
    “relations”? … drinks and a game of dice maybe?

  110. EvilElvis

    Recent subject seems to be blokes who’ve snapped. Someone should mark today’s date in a diary and look west for my mental mushroom cloud!

  111. Twostix

    Importantly as was the case with all these types of bad relationships everyone he knew was telling him to leave.

    So why did he ignore everyone and keep going back to her?

    Under the above regime they’re saying the police could intervene and charge her with dv because he couldn’t help himself and stay away from her.

    It’s insanity.

  112. Caveman

    If you on the bottom or middle rack you would get farted on by passers by.

  113. Twostix

    In these cases of non violent “control” – surely it’s necessary to ban the complainant from going back to the relationship as well?

    Just to be safe.

  114. Mother Lode

    Pretty sure “Sodom” and “Gomorrah” were meant as metaphors for Labor and The Greens, not literally for rectum reamers.

  115. jo

    Caveman
    #3335775, posted on February 26, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    If you on the bottom or middle rack you would get farted on by passers by.

    I fart in your direction. said in a french accent. Mine are omni-directional so all can enjoy.

  116. cohenite

    One of the world’s great surfing spots: Greenmount point looking out to Snapper Rocks from Kirra. I’ve enjoyed many a blue there after some long haired hippie wanker dropped in on me.

  117. 8th Dan

    “H3br3w” is caught by the spaminator?

  118. calli

    Is it just me, or do we get into religious discussions at the end of (just about) every OT?

    Time for a fresh start, Your Doomship.

    And where’s that Antarctica travelogue? You can never have too many penguins.

  119. Confused Old Misfit

    To me homosexuality is a disorder and people with disorders should not be discriminated against.

    Usually disorders are treated with the intent of reversing or remediating the condition.
    With homosexuality the treatment method seems to entail spreading the condition through the rest of society.
    This is not a strategy to ensure the survival of the species.

  120. dover_beach

    I can’t believe 8th Dan thought that would be remotely convincing.

  121. OldOzzie

    Just for Custard

    HOW WELL ENGINEERED IS YOUR CARAVAN

    When buying a new van, how do you pick a well-designed and engineered peach instead of a lemon? Before you get your R&R, there should have been lots of R&D!

    Go to any RV show and the glossy caravans on display all look fantastic. But when it comes to signing up for a new van, how do you know you’ve picked a well-designed and engineered van that has the best chance of not falling apart or being terrible to tow?

    If a caravan has had little time or effort go into its design and engineering, once the new-van shine has rubbed off you might find it won’t be a great ownership experience.

    There are plenty of other questions to ask as part of your due diligence when buying a caravan, but crucial ones to begin with include what design and engineering methods are used. You should also check out some engineering ‘tells’ for yourself, such as load ratings and weights.

  122. mh

    The musings of Bernie Sanders

    “A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A woman on her knees, a woman tied up, a woman abused.
    “A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously.
    “The man and woman get dressed up on Sunday — and go to Church, or maybe to their ‘revolutionary’ political meeting.
    “Have you ever looked at the Stag, Man, Hero, Tough magazines on the shelf of your local bookstore? Do you know why the newspaper with the articles like ‘Girl 12 raped by 14 men’ sell so well? To what in us are they appealing?”

    Uh huh

  123. calli

    Yes, Dan, it is.

    I said I would scroll, but I am weak.

    Blame the Avian.

  124. Ed Case

    Twostix at 6:04 pm
    In these cases of non violent “control” – surely it’s necessary to ban the complainant from going back to the relationship as well?
    Just to be safe.

    DV covers every sort of conceivable behavior already. The police in queensland will tell complainants that they can’t break the conditions either but nothing happens when they do.
    Basically Deb Frecklington is a hopeless politician who just wants to keep her job and has no hope of leading the LNP out of the woods.
    Thats all there is to it.

  125. DrBeauGan

    The musings of Bernie Sanders

    Really? He’s even sicker than I thought if that’s really him.

  126. Knuckle Dragger

    Gunner.

    40 yo gym chick, easy.

    Before six may be rude for some, but it’s always before six somewhere.

  127. Arky

    Woman tests positive for coronavirus, dengue at same time!

    ..
    That’s what you get for hanging out on the sodomy thread with armadildo.

  128. OldOzzie

    How Do You Keep China’s Economy Running With 750 Million in Quarantine?

    The “demon virus” threat has rattled the confidence of many Chinese in the regime’s ability to protect people’s lives and jobs.

  129. DrBeauGan

    It’s him, BeauGan.

    And lefties were complaining about Trump’s sex life.

  130. Arky

    I don’t understand the footage we are seeing in many countries of people in overalls spraying bulk amounts of disinfectant around the outsides of buildings.
    Is the virus living outside for hours?
    Is it shedding off people onto pavement, then wafting up into the air again?
    Attaching itself to concrete walls and then pushing off again?
    Either I have a basic misunderstanding of how it works (possible) or this is a strange allocation of effort.
    I could understand disinfecting door handles or the entrance of a buildings or lift buttons etc.
    But the concrete metres from an entrance?
    I don’t get it.

  131. notafan

    Twostix is correct.

    Tax and benefits changes over the last four or so decades have been designed to destroy the family.

  132. Roger

    Twostix is correct.

    Tax and benefits changes over the last four or so decades have been designed to destroy the family.

    It started before the benefits were made available.

  133. notafan

    Memorising the Anglican catechism as a child does not a biblical scholar make.

  134. Roger

    It started before the benefits were made available.

    And our politicians were following the Soviet Union’s lead, btw.

  135. notafan

    And numbers the devote Catholic using the shellfish argument.

    LOL

  136. Mark A

    re. corona virus.
    Allegedly, if you have a runny nose and ‘wet’ cough it’s just a cold or flu.
    Corona comes with a dry cough and eventual pneumonia.

  137. Tel

    I don’t understand the footage we are seeing in many countries of people in overalls spraying bulk amounts of disinfectant around the outsides of buildings.

    Optics.

    Busy activities, easily visible to the public, that convey the message, “We are doing something!”

    Admitting they have NFI would be unthinkable.

  138. Roger

    Admitting they have NFI would be unthinkable.

    In our government’s published plan for dealing with a covid-19 pandemic the phrase “solutions will be innovated” (or similar) appears.

    Bureaucratese for “We have NFI right now but hopefully somebody will think of something when the time comes”.

  139. Porter

    We now have an official warning not to travel to north Italy or Iran but we’re about to let in tens of thousands of Chinese students. The Morrison government is FITH.

  140. DrBeauGan

    Bureaucratese for “We have NFI right now but hopefully somebody will think of something when the time comes”.

    Bureaucrats don’t know anything about innovation except it creates change, which is bad because the rules don’t work. The only thing they can create are more rules.

  141. Porter

    So the Queensland LNP is now going to have a policy of policing and criminalising your personal relationships or because some evil bastard killed his family. It never occurs to then perhaps to stop giving out AVOs like lolly water and punish people who lie in court in order to get one and to deregister lawyers who have made it an industry and so restrict AVOs to those who really need them and thereby release police resources to properly police them and support people who are genuinely in danger.

  142. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    punish people who lie in court in order to get one and to deregister lawyers who have made it an industry and so restrict AVOs to those who really need them and thereby release police resources to properly police them and support people who are genuinely in danger.

    I don’t know how prevalent the practice is today, but back in the 1980’s, there was an element of the sisterhood that regarded an allegation of domestic violence as a perfectly legitimate tactic in a custody dispute/property settlement.

  143. Tel

    The only thing they can create are more rules.

    Not so different to a mathematician then.

    I know, I know … mathematicians go to a little bit more effort to check that their rules are consistent, and at least the mathematicians usually admit that what they do is all academic. Points awarded for honesty if nothing else.

  144. Roger

    The only thing they can create are more rules.

    Encased in documents written in an appallingly opaque jargonese that is painful for any decently educated person to read, let alone the average citizen.

  145. Tel

    Encased in documents written in an appallingly opaque jargonese that is painful for any decently educated person to read, let alone the average citizen.

    Gosh! Not so different to a mathematician then.

  146. Mater

    Soldier, show some initiative. When you next comment, just change Mater to Farsi in the Name field … see what happens.

    Gee Dan, I never thought of that.
    You’re a sock master, you should know exactly what happens.

  147. Mother Lode

    Considering how our political leaders pass off their (prospective) incremental inches toward balancing the budget by raiding our wallets and leaving us worse off as masterful economic management, so we can look forward to them tooting their own horns when the population is so thinned out that the rate of spread of the infection slows, claiming it to be the result of the calm but resolute and precisely calibrated management.

    Hoorah!

  148. calli

    notafan
    #3335811, posted on February 26, 2020 at 6:53 pm
    Memorising the Anglican catechism as a child does not a biblical scholar make.

    Was that directed at me, Nota?

  149. Shy Ted

    Off topic but sometimes life is just too beautiful for words. Been words in the central desert where, if you’re a dog, life is pretty bloody miserable, but you don’t know any different. In week one I rescued a dingo cross from starvation, just a few days of dry biscuits and she had meat on her bones and she left, returning to the only life she knew but with her pack. Heartbreaking. Colleague asked me to walk her own rescue, beautiful dingo cross, different one but similar, then asked if I’d take her. Yes,obviously. Wonderful morning walks at the crack of dawn, so many things to smell and roll in. Awesome sight this morning as she raced down one hill and up another, incredibly rugged terrain, in pursuit of something I neither saw nor heard, full pelt, just a hunter doing what hunters do.
    Word had obviously got around the camp dogs there was free food at chez Ted so one pitiful specimen, recently pipped, turned up regularly, crippled, could only hobble at best, has turned up early evening and eaten her fill of the cheapest dog food available locally. Dingo doesn’t approve and makes it known but hunger is the best driver. Tits hanging down to the floor she stands her ground and eats as though it were her last meal and then back to the kids. I leave town tomorrow and she arrives with puppy in tow. Fed, she leaves just a little bit faster than puppy can manage, puppy turns back. Mum never looks back. After another little feed and she’s in my lap. Somehow we know it’s his new home. Just too beautiful for words.

  150. Arky

    You’re a sock master, you should know exactly what happens.

    ..
    You just keep posting under the new name every day, eventually the dirty libertarian gets sick of you appearing in the filter and adds you to the party.

  151. 8th Dan

    I can’t believe 8th Dan thought that would be remotely convincing.

    In the beginning …

    Gwen said:

    God selected sodomy for special condemnation

    8th Dan replied:

    Care to point out where God actually mentioned sodomy?
    A bible reference will do.

    Roger … not in the English bible, not in the H3br3w bible either.

    Bogus … in response to your lack of civility I returned the compliment, but it has been enspaminated.
    So, in summary … the word is in fact crucial and the meaning does in fact matter … see “In the beginning …” above.

    Struth … lots of words quoted there, but not “sodomy”.
    “relations”? … that might be drinks and a game of dice, but still “sodomy” is not specified.

    calli … thanks for the confirmation.

    PS: I do know the Bible very well … read it many times in the past.

  152. Mitch M.

    Shy Ted
    #3335838, posted on February 26, 2020 at 7:31 pm
    Off topic but sometimes life is just too beautiful for words. Been words in the central desert where, if you’re a dog, life is pretty bloody miserable, but you don’t know any different. In week one I rescued a dingo cross from starvation, just a few days of dry biscuits and she had meat on her bones and she left, returning to the only life she knew but with her pack. Heartbreaking. Colleague asked me to walk her own rescue, beautiful dingo cross, different one but similar, then asked if I’d take her. Yes,obviously. Wonderful morning walks at the crack of dawn, so many things to smell and roll in. Awesome sight this morning as she raced down one hill and up another, incredibly rugged terrain, in pursuit of something I neither saw nor heard, full pelt, just a hunter doing what hunters do.
    Word had obviously got around the camp dogs there was free food at chez Ted so one pitiful specimen, recently pipped, turned up regularly, crippled, could only hobble at best, has turned up early evening and eaten her fill of the cheapest dog food available locally. Dingo doesn’t approve and makes it known but hunger is the best driver. Tits hanging down to the floor she stands her ground and eats as though it were her last meal and then back to the kids. I leave town tomorrow and she arrives with puppy in tow. Fed, she leaves just a little bit faster than puppy can manage, puppy turns back. Mum never looks back. After another little feed and she’s in my lap. Somehow we know it’s his new home. Just too beautiful for words.

    Thanks.

  153. custard

    OldOzzie
    #3335789, posted on February 26, 2020 at 6:25 pm
    Just for Custard

    I went out to Avans factory on Tuesday morning before I flew back to Perth. Quite something to see. I knew I had a good product to sell, but after seeing them being built I now know I’m selling the best brand in Australia.

    But of course you’d all be disappointed if I said anything else.

  154. cohenite

    PS: I do know the Bible very well … read it many times in the past.

    Especially the section of having no dick.

  155. Arky

    In week one I rescued a dingo cross from starvation,

    ..
    Good work. Miss my dingo cross to this day.

  156. Snoopy

    PS: I do know the Bible very well … read it many times in the past.

    Looking for sodomy loopholes.

  157. Calli

    I would say obviously not.

    Just recalling a grig boast while attemptimg to claim forcing children to learn to recite the entire kor an was perfectly normal.

  158. Roger

    Roger … not in the English bible, not in the H3br3w bible either.

    Go away.

  159. Confused Old Misfit

    Shy Ted
    #3335838, posted on February 26, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Thanks Ted. Beautiful. God bless.

  160. Top Ender

    Some of the more hilarious bits in bold:

    Education Department’s gender strategy costs male teachers

    While the NSW Department of Education’s aim to promote more women may seem noble, it presents a clear problem for the many children needing positive male role models, writes Louise Roberts.

    The problem with gender quotas for leadership positions is that while they sound good in theory, in practice they tend to reward in-group members who share inflated egos and sense of “purpose”.

    Take our schools: One of the biggest issues undermining our system is a dearth of male teachers, not a lack of women in high paid, high powered roles.

    But that matters not to a NSW Department of Education strategy, the goal of which is to increase within five years the number of women in leadership roles, such as principals.

    Already 53 per cent of these jobs are done by women – so says the department themselves – so why focus resources on gaining an extra seven per cent?

    And where’s the proof it will lift our dismal and frankly embarrassing NAPLAN and PISA results?

    The effects of this sort of gender crusading seep into our secondary schools, evident by our report today that one in three Year 10 students are ignorant of why we have day and night. I kid you not. It is of course due to the earth rotating on its axis but there were a lot of blank faces when the question was asked.

    Meanwhile, the number of men entering the teaching profession is on the decline. A national study made the sobering prediction that schools are set to run out of male principals in the next 20 years and the male teacher as a species will be extinct in the next 40 years.

    Again, it is a case of ideology trumping the basics of education. We don’t send our kids to school to be indoctrinated.

    The education department strategy is ignoring the real gender diversity crisis here: the lack of a beneficial male influence and role models in classrooms.

    And so the eternal contradiction of modern feminism and their beloved gender quotas is this. It’s not really about equality at all – it’s about putting the patriarchy back in their place. It’s a move by educated upper-middle class women for educated upper-middle class women. And correcting so-called toxic masculinity is at the heart of this issue.

    Vaughan Cruickshank, from the School of Education at the University of Tasmania, has researched the challenges faced by male teachers. Looking at primary school teachers as a whole, he found that 18 per cent of them were men but that included sports masters and principals.

    “So the actual percentage in the classroom would probably be about 15 per cent”, Cruickshank says.

    So what is worse for our young people and their understanding of gender equality? Is it that the senior executive hierarchy of the NSW Department of Education is out of balance, gender wise, or is it pupils completing their primary education without a Sir at the front of the class teaching them the basics of reading, writing, mathematics, geography, history, science, sport and so on.

    Meanwhile our pals at the NSW Teachers Federation vehemently oppose any plan to tackle the urgent shortage of male teachers. It argues that recognising men as a minority in the profession would be offensive to gay, disabled and Aboriginal people.

    Added to this the dangerous agenda that there must be something wrong with men who want to work with kids.

    Kevin McGrath is the researcher who identified two years ago the 20 year deadline in male principals as part of the country’s first longitudinal study of teacher numbers. But in December he said: “It’s frustrating and disappointing and people who hold decision-making power don’t seem to care.”

    What we as parents care about is a curriculum clogged with social justice awareness at the expense of rote learning and useful skills.

    What we as parents care about it that in a global economy, the one in which our kids will compete, our education system is not giving our kids the skills they need.

    Most recent international scores showed NSW student performance dropping by the equivalent of a whole school year when compared to overseas students. The Australian Association for Research in Education blog in November last year said that “there are compelling arguments for increasing the representation of male teachers in our schools.

    “And we believe it is becoming increasingly important to understand the ‘need’ for men in the education of children.”

    “Male teachers are needed in schools for psychological, social, organisational, and societal reasons.

    “First, male and female teachers contribute to children’s gender knowledge.

    “The presence of male teachers may be particularly important for some children – allowing them to observe men who are nonviolent and whose interactions with women are positive.”

    I have a friend whose son has long wanted to do a Bachelor of Teaching (Primary) because he wants to make a difference with students. He went to an all-boys school and had a range of male teachers, very fortunate he knows. But even he is questioning his career choice. Will he be viewed with suspicion? Will he get tangled up in the ropes of political correctness strangling our classrooms?

    And isn’t that the greatest gender crime of all? Capable young men not chasing the corporate dollar, but wanting to make a difference in educating our children.

    Daily Tele

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    PS: I do know the Bible very well … read it many times in the past.

    Why were you in solitary confinement?

  162. calli

    I would say obviously not.

    Thank goodness for that! I can’t remember a single bit of the Catechism. 😅

  163. DrBeauGan

    Encased in documents written in an appallingly opaque jargonese that is painful for any decently educated person to read, let alone the average citizen.

    Gosh! Not so different to a mathematician then.

    You never got to understand it, Tel?

  164. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3335850, posted on February 26, 2020 at 7:40 pm
    Roger … not in the English bible, not in the H3br3w bible either.

    Go away.”

    I doubt very much that 8th toilet block knows anything about the H*br*w bible…and he certainly wouldn’t be able to read the H*br*w.

  165. Roger

    Roger that … the bible is mostly written in English these days. But I’d be happy for you to show me the equivalent of “sodomy” in the Hebrew bible.

    Fine.

    Pay attention.

    H3br3w has a relatively small vocabulary, which means that words have a wider semantic range than in more loquacious langauges, like Koine Greek, for example, or German.

    This means that words must often do double or even triple duty, their meaning being determined by context.

    In Genesis 19:5, the story of Sodam, the word used is וְנֵדְעָ֖ה, that we may know them.

    Since Abraham, describes this desire as ‘wicked’, this is clearly not meant in the harmless sense of “that we may get to know them”. It means, rather, that we may “know them” in the sense of sexual intercourse, i.e. sodomy.

    The Authorised Version retained the euphemism, but more modern translations are less constrained, and simply put it, “that we may have sex with them” (NIV).

  166. Roger

    I doubt very much that 8th toilet block knows anything about the H*br*w bible…and he certainly wouldn’t be able to read the H*br*w.

    I’ve posted a response.

    It’s gone into moderation.

    Those interested might want to check back in due course.

  167. miltonf

    What the f*k is going on in Canada btw? Is this what Soros’s street fighters have planned for other countries?

  168. Nob

    men who are nonviolent and whose interactions with women are positive

    Iz not exist!

  169. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3335872, posted on February 26, 2020 at 7:57 pm
    I doubt very much that 8th toilet block knows anything about the H*br*w bible…and he certainly wouldn’t be able to read the H*br*w.

    I’ve posted a response.

    It’s gone into moderation.

    Those interested might want to check back in due course.”

    Will do..I know my H*br*w and I can read classical H*br*w…the Torah is quite explicit and precise about certain practices and the punishments that will ensue if you indulge in such practices. The Torah doesn’t like it. And as for the K*r*n!

  170. Tel

    You never got to understand it, Tel?

    I’m not the average citizen … but I concur that it was painful.

    Besides, you never gave me the answer to my stated problem of calculating the Lorenz differential equation. I’ve lost the link but could find it if necessary. I mean, I ask one for one measly thing … sheesh.

  171. Farmer Gez

    If the Cyclone over Broome heads inland the NT, and Queensland will be in for flooding rains, then pushing south into NSW.
    They tell me that some mug punters at the BoM put their money on a nag with no form, Far Crap, to win on hard dry track. Mudlarks more likely to do well.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3335539, posted on February 26, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    ‘He said senior police had failed to acknowledge their own faults, instead shifting the blame onto rank and file officers.’

    Yep.
    Damn straight.
    Weak xunts.
    Garglearse is a “client” to be “case managed”, not a crook.

  173. cohenite

    Chunks and demorats starting to use beer virus to beat up Trump.

  174. 8th Dan

    Ah, Roger … what a disappointment you are. Obfuscation and your own interpretations of words and phrases do not equate to a mention of “sodomy” in the H3br3w Bible. It’s just not there, old fella.

    I could give you these: “He knew him” in the biblical sense … or, “he went in unto him”
    Pardon me for laughing.

    Crazy Cassie will not be pleased … she thought you were on a winner.

  175. Cassie of Sydney

    “Crazy Cassie will not be pleased … she thought you were on a winner.”

    Hey diseased cockroach….stick to hanging around toilets blocks where you can practice your “sodomy”…no wonder you’re sensitive about the word….it’s something you do everyday.

  176. Eyrie

    “and would roll out personal safety devices to high-risk people”

    They’re going to issue Glocks?

  177. Eyrie

    As for the Air new Zealand bunk beds idea I figured that out years ago. They’ll make out like bandits if they do it.
    Air travel in economy might be bearable instead of deliberate torture and sleep deprivation.

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