Shut up, bitch, or else. DV hobbyists ramp up “strip” calls

The Governor-General has now referred requests to “strip” Bettina Arndt to the Australia Day Council.

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61 Responses to Shut up, bitch, or else. DV hobbyists ramp up “strip” calls

  1. Another award that is rapidly becoming as meaningful as Nobel Peace Prizes.

  2. nb

    Australia Day award should go to Brendan Thoms for inspiring the intellectual genius of our justices in the High Court finding that a superior metaphysics lies at the heart of a truly unerasable Australian citizenship.

  3. Robbo

    An award in the ridiculous Order of Australia list is not to be made to anyone who has an opinion that is not agreeable to the loud mouthed mob of naysayers that make up less than one percent of our population.

  4. Scott Osmond

    What is this I see? A precedent? Goodie! Now I can think of some others we can strip at a later date. Remember kiddies this is a game both sides can play.

  5. Roger

    The Governor-General has now referred requests to “strip” Bettina Arndt to the Australia Day Council.

    This is the second time Arndt’s award had been referred to the ADC by the GG, btw.

  6. H B Bear

    Bewdy. Another political football.

    Add it to the list.

  7. Mother Lode

    They think they reduce the her dignity by taking the silly trinket from her.

    They would in fact be reducing further what little credibility it has by detaching it from someone who can turn so much ‘established’ knowledge on its head and keeping it the preserve of a flock of sheep.

    I saw a poster this morning advertising the laughably misnamed ‘Festival of Dangerous Ideas’, where progressives stand up and say the same things in slightly different ways. There will be nothing new because there is no appetite for it, and the leading lights of the progressives are wedded to their own theories.

    Bettina has something to say that really would shake them up and confront them with another perspective – and they want to unperson her.

  8. ‘Festival of Dangerous Ideas’

    It should have been called ‘Festival of Group Think’.

    But seriously, whatever Leftists call any of their events, it’s usually the opposite.

  9. Ed Case

    A DV event of such magnitude would usually keep the outrage merchants quacking forever, but this one seems destined for the Memory Hole in a hurry, given that the politicians have gone for the bipartisan approach of shutting dissent down.
    Good on Bettina Arndt for encouraging rational discussion.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can we strip the Australia Day Council?
    Or will our eyes bleed from all the purple dyed pubic hair?

  11. Des Deskperson

    Arndt is a polemicist and an a controversialist. Whatever the merits of her arguments, she is not the sort of person who should be eligible for an award which as far as I understand it, is meant to unify Australians through a common feeling of uplift, pride and admiration for achievement.

    Neither, of course, is Tim Minchin AM, who wrote and performed a nasty little song attacking Cardinal Pell. Neither is Peter ‘Gorilla’ FitzSimons AM. Neither are most politicians.

  12. mh

    Strip wrongologist Tim Flannery of his AOTY award.

    Perth is not a ghost metropolis and the rain that falls DOES fill dams.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “Des Deskperson
    #3333366, posted on February 24, 2020 at 12:16 pm
    Arndt is a polemicist and an a controversialist. Whatever the merits of her arguments, she is not the sort of person who should be eligible for an award which as far as I understand it, is meant to unify Australians through a common feeling of uplift, pride and admiration for achievement.

    Neither, of course, is Tim Minchin AM, who wrote and performed a nasty little song attacking Cardinal Pell. Neither is Peter ‘Gorilla’ FitzSimons AM. Neither are most politicians.”

    Agree…Paul Keating, many years ago, stated that these kinds of awards should only ever be given to people who have actually done some for other Australians…not for polemicists, not for professional victims, not for shallow media celebrities and so on.

  14. C.L.

    I think we all agree on that, Des, but that’s a separate issue.
    Only one is being targeted for “stripping.”

    I don’t personally agree with Arndt, by the way – on two grounds. First, murderer Baxter wasn’t ‘pushed’ to commit such a crime (although family law in this country does indeed persecute men and IS responsible for inciting both violence and suicide). Second: timing. Arndt could have let the tragedy settle a while before commenting.

    Oh, a third: Twitter is an idiotic platform for expounding any argument on a serious topic.

  15. The Sheriff

    How does bestiality enthusiast Peter Singer get to keep his Order of Australia?

  16. Gwendolyn

    As a conservative I will never celebrate or defend Bettina Arndt.

    She has spent her life as a culture warrior fighting to advance the sexual revolution and to tear down the traditional family.

    What sort of job is “sex therapist” anyway?

    Everything any human being needs to know about sex can be found in the Bible.

    I’m not joking either. If you don’t believe me read your Bibles. Especially Cassie.

  17. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I saw a poster this morning advertising the laughably misnamed ‘Festival of Dangerous Ideas’, where progressives stand up and say the same things in slightly different ways.

    Well, there was that time they’d scheduled a chap who was going to the speak on the topic “Honor killings are morally justified”, until an outpouring of self righteous outrage from ‘orrible racist right wingers put a stop to it going ahead.

    In its own bizarre way there is some resemblance between the actions of the murderer in Brisbane and the topic identified above.

  18. Cassie of Sydney

    “C.L.
    #3333372, posted on February 24, 2020 at 12:28 pm
    I think we all agree on that, Des, but that’s a separate issue.
    Only one is being targeted for “stripping.”

    I don’t personally agree with Arndt, by the way – on two grounds. First, murderer Baxter wasn’t ‘pushed’ to commit such a crime (although family law in this country does indeed persecute men and IS responsible for inciting both violence and suicide). Second: timing. Arndt could have let the tragedy settle a while before commenting.

    Oh, a third: Twitter is an idiotic platform for expounding any argument on a serious topic.”

    I agree with every word you wrote above…thanks C.L.

  19. Lee

    What is this I see? A precedent? Goodie! Now I can think of some others we can strip at a later date. Remember kiddies this is a game both sides can play.

    I agree.

    I can think of a number who should be stripped of their awards, including a former army general in high heels, and an undeservedly over-lauded Victorian woman.

  20. The purpose of this is not to get Bettina stripped of her title, because that won’t happen.
    It is to warn the Australia Day Council that if they dare pick another person who goes against the leftist narrative then they will kop this kind of abuse and harassment.
    All non-leftists are to be shunned, ignored and censored, under no circumstances do you award them or give them media exposure. And you will comply Australia Day Council.

  21. Lee

    And a footballer who got Australian of the Year for having a young girl dragged out of the crowd (and probably illegally) held incommunicado for a period by the AFL.

  22. Tom

    The reason Bettina Arndt is being targeted is because she is a very articulate tribal enemy of the feminist left, whose university “rape epidemic” Arndt exposed as an elaborate hoax that simply did not exist.

    The ferals have therefore decided to try to attach one of its standard silencers (sexist/racist/homophobe/bigotty bigot) to her public voice as a dissident from the all-men-are-bastards club.

    The Australia Council is the same Deep State bureaucracy that set about destroying the Australian Of The Year as an institution about a decade ago, appointing a series of leftist heroes that the public either despised or was indifferent to.

    The tribal left knows the Australia Council awards system is one of its hostages and will again be mobilised to take down one of the left’s tribal enemies.

    QED.

  23. Mique

    Whatever we think of the worth of the Australian System of Honours and Awards, I find it startling, indeed, frightening that anyone in this august group, where freedom of speech is allegedly something to be treasured, could argue that as “polemicist and a controversialist” Bettina Arndt should not be eligible for an award for Des Deskperson’s interpretation of the purpose of such awards. And to quote Paul Keating in support, for crissakes. What next?

    All I can say is that critics here must be very young to be unaware of the many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a sex therapist which was, no doubt, a large part of the reason for her award. Secondly, even if it were true that she is a polemicist, etc, which I dispute, what exactly is wrong with that? I would have thought that Cats would have found that alone was sufficient to justify the award.

    Had Arndt’s statement been made before the award, the Council might have been justified to overlook her recommendation. But, to date at least, unless I’m mistaken, the award has only been withdrawn in cases where a recipient has been convicted of a disgraceful crime in a court of law, and not in that of the very disgraceful media or, even worse, that of crazy radical feminist opinion.

    Like it or not, this is one precedent we don’t want to set.

  24. Old School Conservative

    Hmmm….Jane Caro AM.
    Called conservative voters “truculent turds”.
    Said Australia is fucked.
    Wishes she was a New Zealander.

    I may take the Ray Hadley-endorsed technique of submitting a request to the GG to strip Jane of her AM because of her professed anti-Australian attitude.
    Ray supports the anti-Arndt request: I’m sure he and the GG will give my request similar air time/gravitas.

  25. areff

    Arndt’s chief accuser and source of the agitation against her claims to have been assaulted in a midnight park by a horny Leb. If I remember correctly, she had attended a Take back the Night rally at Sydney Uni before the purported assault, in which she claims to have been punched, beaten and bruised, somehow driving off her attacker. She parlayed this into Fairfax essays, awards, appointments to DV boards etc. The aroma of ripe and reeking hoax hangs over the entire alleged episode.

    She has never, so far as I know, responded to requests, including from fellow feminists, to release the photos of her injuries which she claims to have sustained.

    Bettina might find it useful to raise these suspicions by way of counterattack

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “All I can say is that critics here must be very young to be unaware of the many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a s*x therapist which was, no doubt, a large part of the reason for her award.”

    Mique…I am very aware of Bettina Arndt’s decades of pioneering work as a s*x therapist and I am a huge fan of Arndt. Her amazing work has nothing to do with the arguments about our awards system…a system which has now become utterly politicised and thoroughly corrupted. I was very happy to hear that Bettina had been given a gong but I also knew that the crazed left would go after her and I have been proven correct. I very rarely agree with anything that Keating says but he was right about our awards system.

    Anyway….Bettina has been given this award and I say bravo….and if they take it away from her they will be setting a very dangerous and ugly precedent.

  27. EvilElvis

    Remember kiddies this is a game both sides can play.

    Don’t kid yourselves. There is no ‘other side’. And if there is they certainly don’t play dirty or use weapons that are easily available.

  28. Suburban Boy

    To date, only a conviction for a serious crime has been used as justification for cancelling an award in the Australian system of honours.

    Let’s hope that crimethink (as defined by Orwell) doesn’t become an alternative justification.

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    “Let’s hope that crimethink (as defined by Orwell) doesn’t become an alternative justification.”

    Here’s my prediction SB…it is already happening.

  30. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘Festival of Dangerously Absurd Ideas’

    fixitingly

  31. liliana

    Agree with Cassie and C.L.

    Baxter was a nutjob, through and through. But that doesn’t invalidate all the good work Bettina has done for which she was rightfully was recognised. The council needs to stand firm and ignore the mob.

  32. Ed Case

    Rowan Baxter seems to have been well adjusted and moderately successful, from what we read in the papers.
    Gym proprietors have got to be switched on and fairly outgoing in my experience.
    Clearly he was insane for an hour or so before his death, but calling him a Nutjob as if that explains everything is just sweeping the dirt under the carpet, isn’t it?

  33. C.L.

    I’d be interested in Baxter’s toxicology results.
    Roids?

  34. Archivist

    Rowan Baxter seems to have been well adjusted and moderately successful, from what we read in the papers.

    …and harbouring murderous, psychotic fantasies all the while.

    Clearly he was insane for an hour or so before his death, but calling him a Nutjob as if that explains everything is just sweeping the dirt under the carpet, isn’t it?

    no. This particular dirt is too toxic to look at. It’s radiocative.
    If you have a point you want to make about family law or whatever, keep walking and find another example to dissect and analyse, not this one.

  35. Chris M

    Agree with Gwendolyn, Bettina is a sort of weird old creep who has done much more harm than good. But the whole award is meaningless anyway and should be dumped.

  36. Ed Case

    …and harbouring murderous, psychotic fantasies all the while.

    Any proof for that assertion?

    no. This particular dirt is too toxic to look at. It’s radiocative.

    How’s that? Are you purporting to know some undisclosed facts that would justify curtailing discussion?

  37. Des Deskperson

    ‘All I can say is that critics here must be very young to be unaware of the many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a sex therapist which was, no doubt, a large part of the reason for her award.’

    Minque, this is her award citation:

    “significant service to the community as a social commentator, and to gender equity through advocacy for men”.

    It says nothing whatever about the ‘many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a sex therapist’. Rather it is for being a ‘social commentator’ and a gender equity champion.

    ‘Secondly, even if it were true that she is a polemicist, etc, which I dispute, what exactly is wrong with that? I would have thought that Cats would have found that alone was sufficient to justify the award. for being a polemicist.”

    I would agree with this provided Minque and other Cats be happy with David Marr or Clementine Ford also being honoured as ‘social commentators ‘? They could both also plausibly claim to be ‘gender equity’ champions.

  38. Ed Case

    Archivist at 2.10 p.m.
    If you have a point you want to make about family law or whatever, keep walking and find another example to dissect and analyse, not this one.

    Free Speech ring any bells for you? Nothing I said is objectionable, personal or in bad taste.

  39. Cassie of Sydney

    “If you have a point you want to make about family law or whatever, keep walking and find another example to dissect and analyse, not this one.”

    You don’t decide that.

  40. Ed Case

    I’d be interested in Baxter’s toxicology results.
    Roids?

    It sounds like that might be likely given the outcome, except he had a lean build.
    Hannah Clarke did have impressive muscle growth for a woman.

  41. John A

    Des Deskperson #3333476, posted on February 24, 2020 at 2:19 pm

    ‘All I can say is that critics here must be very young to be unaware of the many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a sex therapist which was, no doubt, a large part of the reason for her award.’

    Minque, this is her award citation:

    “significant service to the community as a social commentator, and to gender equity through advocacy for men”.

    It says nothing whatever about the ‘many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a sex therapist’. Rather it is for being a ‘social commentator’ and a gender equity champion.

    ‘Secondly, even if it were true that she is a polemicist, etc, which I dispute, what exactly is wrong with that? I would have thought that Cats would have found that alone was sufficient to justify the award. for being a polemicist.”

    I would agree with this provided Minque and other Cats be happy with David Marr or Clementine Ford also being honoured as ‘social commentators ‘? They could both also plausibly claim to be ‘gender equity’ champions.

    Not necessarily.

    The whole stupid point about trying to have Bettina stripped of the award is that such argument (that her controversial nature ‘brings the award into disrepute’) flies in the face of the actual terms of the citation.

    If Marr and Ford were cited for being social commentators, OK, but then we must go back to check the terms of their respective citations, right?

  42. stackja

    Murphy Law continues to ruin lives.

  43. Tintarella di Luna

    The Sheriff
    #3333380, posted on February 24, 2020 at 12:34 pm
    How does bestiality enthusiast Peter Singer get to keep his Order of Australia?

    Glad you mentioned him The Sheriff — he actually has a higher gong than an OAM — he was gonged as an AC — a Companion of the Order of Australia

    The Companion of the Order of Australia is awarded for eminent achievement and merit of the highest degree in service to Australia or humanity at large. The Order of Australia has four levels: Companion of the Order (AC)

    Peter Singer is the guy who reckons children could be murdered up to the age of 5 because they have no awareness of self, as for people who are disabled ….Harriet McBryde Johnson (MSRIP) challenged Singer’s belief that parents ought to be able to euthanise their disabled children (well in Belgium that has come to pass) her Unspeakable Conversations she lays it all out beautifully.

  44. Mique

    Des, I take your point about the specifics of her citation, but still see no problem. If David Marr or Clementine Ford were to receive such an award I’d cringe a lot, but we’ve seen, and will continue to see, worse. Just have a look at the number and level of awards our delightful politicians award each other.

  45. Gwendolyn

    ‘All I can say is that critics here must be very young to be unaware of the many decades of Bettina Arndt’s pioneering work as a s-x therapist which was, no doubt, a large part of the reason for her award.’

    Minque, this is her award citation:

    “significant service to the community as a social commentator, and to gender equity through advocacy for men”.

    Listen, men wouldn’t need Arndt’s advocacy if she and others hadn’t given us the s-xual revolution which started destroying covenant marriage with the respect due to the head of a household, and promoted s-xual promiscuity.

    She’s like a fireman that you later find out is a pyromaniac. She light the fires she is now getting credit for fighting.

  46. Chris

    Listen, men wouldn’t need Arndt’s advocacy if she and others hadn’t given us the s-xual revolution which started destroying covenant marriage with the respect due to the head of a household, and promoted s-xual promiscuity.

    She’s like a fireman that you later find out is a pyromaniac. She light the fires she is now getting credit for fighting.

    I submit that Bettina Arndt was a creature of her times then; we all were! But the educated class, as a whole and especially the media created the hedonistic values that were normal in the 1970s and forward. Arndt was to my mind one of those who articualted n the media what most people had then assimilated in values about sex. No-fault divorce and nice girls do it too were the foundation in public life, the rabid tracts of the feminists in academia changed the climate for educated women, and they preceded Arndt’s writings.

  47. Ed Case

    She’s like a fireman that you later find out is a pyromaniac. She light the fires she is now getting credit for fighting.
    The Double Standard was the death of the Sexual Revolution.
    Instead of just the odd girl giving up her virginity before getting a signature on the dotted line and then finding out that her marriage prospects took a big dive, the majority of girls were in that category.
    Fast forward 40 years and there’s a lot of bitter women with some justification.
    Bettina Arndt is a Bolshie and has done more harm than good but keeping the Baxter story in the news is in the public interest in my opinion.

  48. Helen

    Bettina has never been afraid to come out in the face of the wind. I saw her defend Latham when he was sacked and her defense of the Red Pill movie doco.

    We need people like Bettina who have the energy and courage to fight some of the fights we are too lethargic to do ourselves.

    I dont care if the award for its category is weak or shouldn’t have been given (to anyone) in this case it was given and should not be taken away.

    We dont have to agree with her in every little thing. We just have to be thankful she is there, asking the questions.

    Now I read her reasons why she said what she said and it was that friends and family of the deceased man told a different story to the one that ran away. And, I think she said, let us just wait a while until we have the facts and then we can decide what really happened in this horrible saga. And maybe we can find a way to stop it happening again.

    The way this is running though, we will never have the facts because the media have made up their Rosy Batty minds already and it just doesn’t seem to matter about dead children if there is a mother who did it. Note I am not saying at all, that this poor lady had a hand in the deaths of her children and herself.

    What I am saying is the media should leave the emotion at the door and not be judge, jury and executioner before the facts are fully known.

  49. Ed Case

    Hi Helen
    The media narrative didn’t stack up from the start, so if it’s falling apart thats no surprise.
    The Detective leading the investigation being publicly removed the same day is unprecedented .
    While the deaths were horrific, the haste to shut down discussion is censorship leading to memory holing.
    That Bettina Arndt gets piled on for just talking about the policeman could be an indication that something is being covered up that doesn’t support the narrative.

  50. Cassie of Sydney

    “Helen
    #3333670, posted on February 24, 2020 at 6:24 pm”

    Bravo Helen. I agree with every word you wrote.

  51. stackja

    Lionel Murphy not getting a mention.

  52. Ed Case

    Wouldn’t mention of Murphy be OT since the thread is about the suppression of dissent?

  53. Squirrel

    Some of the people who are most outraged about Arndt’s award are hostile to the idea of nation states and nationalism and, presumably, the artefacts and baubles of the nation state – so they should really be quite pleased to see the Straya Day Awards sullied.

    Still on the subject of irony, Our ABC is reporting a link between bushfires (i.e. climate change, in ABC Land) and the incidence of domestic violence – they will, of course, obsess about this with a laser-like focus, and completely ignore other pressures on families which don’t fit the narrative.

  54. stackja

    Ed Case
    #3333720, posted on February 24, 2020 at 7:23 pm
    Wouldn’t mention of Murphy be OT since the thread is about the suppression of dissent?

    Murphy created the problem that faces Bettina Arndt. Murphy suppressed dissent on ASIO.

  55. Old Lefty

    Let’s similarly demand stripping of the award got he bigoted foul-mouthed leftist grub Tim Minchin. (His bigotry, of course, is directed against Christians, so it doesn’t count.)

  56. Old Lefty

    Jane Caro has also said that traditional married stay-at-home mothers are the real prostitutes in society. Mind you, even Abbot betrayed that much despised class of people who dare to think they know better than Big Sister.

  57. Wozzup

    So Bettina was awarded the Order of Australia for “significant service to the community as a social commentator, and to gender equity through advocacy for men.”

    And now the Left wants her to be stripped of the Order of Australia for precisely the same reason – because she is a person who has provided (and continues to provide) “significant service to the community as a social commentator, and to gender equity through advocacy for men.”

    There is a certain irony in that, which is not lost on me and speaks volumes for the hatred of the Left for men (and traditional families, and Judeo Christian morality – the list goes on) inherent in its current ideology …………

    Every time I read something of this sort it reminds me (should I ever need reminding) why I loathe and despise the Left and leftists.

  58. dover_beach

    If you have a point you want to make about family law or whatever, keep walking and find another example to dissect and analyse, not this one.

    Surely the same applies to the DV industry, feminists, and their media sycophants. If it doesn’t, then people must respond to the statements they’re making.

  59. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Long ago I served as researcher for Daughter No 1, studying at Sydney, raising too many little ones too early, running her own modest print design business and supporting her impressive young husband in his accelerating career.

    She ordered material on why and how young males had been shunted during the feminist era, which was being discussed in a theology subject.

    Bettina Arndt was the first to come to mind because I had followed her independent commentary right from the jump. English author Doris Lessing was another. They were both players but they were also rare, intelligent and objective analysts of the issues being debated/shoved down throats.

    I suspect – I hope – Arndt is unperturbed by the nation wide astonishment from all right thinking wymminses; unconcerned by the highly unlikely loss of her dull piece of tin; and thoroughly entertained by the dumb cows dutifully falling in, nose to tail, lowing the mantra.

    From C.L. at 1:27 pm:

    “Mique changes my mind.”

    Good on you for saying so. It’s a complex issue and there is nothing surprising about changing position after considering another view.

  60. Geoff Hatten

    I note that even Peta Credlin, Andrew Bolt and Shari Markson have joined up with the lefty lynch mob in condemning Bettina Arndt. How could Bolt of all people not have some empathy for what is happening to this woman. I note nearly every Sky presenter and guest has prefaced his or her comments with “I was one of the first last Friday to say Arndt’s Twitter comments were “reprehensible.”

    Sadly I also notice that Arndt is being verballed big time with the Queensland police officer’s “driven too far” statement now being widely spun as her words.

    I sincerely hope this does not end with Arndt’s suicide.

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