Tuesday Forum: March 17, 2020

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  1. Fisky

    If you want to check the history, they found it when only a small number were dead, and we know that Beijing reacted early January because they put the military bases on alert. This is even more remarkable as they were coming off a yearly flu season when many more people were dying of that, and yet they picked up these cases as unusual. That shows they were paying attention better that your average Australian doctor.

    The most likely reason that Chinese doctors discovered the virus before Australian doctors, is that the virus started in China, where the Chinese doctors are doctoring.

  2. Monty, you predicted lockdown.

    Credible sources.

    I didn’t say they were credible, just that they were multiple.

    My own opinions have been consistent. Have yours?

  3. Arky

    Lashing out at Beaugy?

    ..
    Why don’t you blow him if you like him so much.

  4. JC

    You know, it’s incredible we don’t have this information. In fact it’s mind-boggling.

    The most valuable piece of information for answering those questions would be to know the current prevalence of the infection in a random sample of a population and to repeat this exercise at regular time intervals to estimate the incidence of new infections. Sadly, that’s information we don’t have.

    From Artie’s link.

  5. I’ll panic when I sober up.

    Maybe April.

  6. Mark A

    Tel
    #3362977, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    China. Did. This.

    The Chinese doctors found the virus, only because they did pull finger and start looking, but it might have been anywhere else on Earth before it got to China because most countries make it their standard operating practice to never see anything.

    The longest bow had been drawn.
    Tel I hope you rethink this statement.

  7. His paper is getting smashed by other experts on twitter.

    Experts eh? Can’t get enough of them now, can we. They must be right, experts they are.

  8. Mitch M.

    Archivist
    #3363014, posted on March 18, 2020 at 11:08 pm
    It — Ionnidis has one of the most cited paper Why all published results are wrong?

    His paper is getting smashed by other experts on twitter.

    From my point of view it is ironic that the paper was published in a Plos journal because I regard those as very low grade journals and typically scroll by any search reference to those journals.

    Nonetheless there are serious problems in biomedical research that need to be addressed. Much better is this …

    The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of Fisherian “Tests” in Biology, and Especially in Medicine

  9. Arky

    Hey Egg.
    Do you notice no bastard ever replies to your comments in general.
    You boring, passive aggressive fuck.

  10. Cpt Seahawks

    People might panic, so the time to panic is now. Good advice coming from the Commons. (Not from BJ).

  11. mh

    My own opinions have been consistent. Have yours?

    Nice attempt to deflect from your wrongology!

    No lockdown.
    No herd immunity strategy from Morrison.

    Yes, you are consistent. Consistently wrong.

  12. Fisky

    The only other theory we can rule out regarding the source of the virus (I mean other than the fact it started in CHINA) is that it is a Race-based Bioweapon. Too many white people have died, along with Asians and others. So that theory is out.

    But it could still be another kind of bioweapon. Or it could be due to filthy hygiene and non-existent food standards.

  13. vr

    John Ioannidis knows what he writes about. He he is talking about power of tests. It’s from 2018.

  14. egg_

    Do you notice no bastard ever replies to your comments in general.

    They’re generally observations.
    Should I spice things up with some personal ghost stories?
    Look at moi!

  15. JC

    Seriously, how is it possible we caused a stampede for toilet paper, dry pasta and lost trillions in wealth and we don’t know the prevalence of the virus through the population when a random test would have given us the information?

    This is shocking.

  16. Arky

    Derrrr look at me I’m egg I done posted at Blair for years.
    no one replied to me there either.

  17. Cpt Seahawks

    JC. Der, Pandemic!

  18. egg_

    My flippant suggestion of restoring a vintage car instead of watching the krikkit?
    Who’s a plagiarist pissant?

    How are your former students?
    How is the Model A?

    2nd time I’ve asked.

  19. JC

    vr

    He’s the guy I’m referring to. Let me be clear, the random sampling is the first time I’ve read about it- even thought about it- but how is it that so-called experts in the field of epidemics wouldn’t roll out that tool at the very beginning. It’s astounding.

  20. The Beer Whisperer

    The Chinese doctors found the virus, only because they did pull finger and start looking, but it might have been anywhere else on Earth before it got to China because most countries make it their standard operating practice to never see anything.

    Bollocks, Tel. The coronavirus spike is way above ant possible background noise.

    Rather, China covered it up for weeks and have screwed the WHO pooch. Read it and weep.

  21. egg_

    His paper is getting smashed by other experts on twitter.

    The blighters, what?!

  22. Arky

    My flippant suggestion of restoring a vintage car instead of watching the krikkit?
    Who’s a plagiarist pissant?

    ..
    Are you on drugs.
    Seriously. Or retarded?
    Are you a retard?
    we’re done.
    No more communication entered into.
    Knock yourself out having the last word you boring retarded fuck.

  23. Tel

    … experts on twitter …

    Pack of oxymorons.

  24. Fisky

    Never forget that China is the most transparent country ever in tackling the virus, according to cranks!

    Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December

    Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy samples and suppress the news, a Chinese media outlet has revealed.

    A regional health official in Wuhan, centre of the outbreak, demanded the destruction of the lab samples that established the cause of unexplained viral pneumonia on January 1. China did not acknowledge there was human-to-human transmission until more than three weeks later.

    The detailed revelations by Caixin Global, a respected independent publication, provide the clearest evidence yet of the scale of the cover-up in the crucial early weeks when the opportunity was lost to control the outbreak.

  25. egg_

    I’ve been match made by a local friend with a young lady, her niece, in the Philippines who’s 30 years younger and wants to start a family.
    I’m a Grand dad.
    Should I pursue it?

  26. vr

    Mitch M. Not this academic. Can you hink of why it is PloS and not in Nature/Science/PNAS?

  27. NoFixedAddress

    Tel
    #3363073, posted on March 18, 2020 at 11:36 pm

    … experts on twitter …

    Pack of oxymorons.

    ROFL

  28. Some History

    Monty, you predicted lockdown.
    Credible sources.

    I didn’t say they were credible, just that they were multiple.
    My own opinions have been consistent. Have yours?

    Is this one of multiple “advisers” living in your basement?

    https://imgur.com/1ttg22C

  29. egg_

    My flippant suggestion of restoring a vintage car instead of watching the krikkit?

    During the ball tampering melee, fvckwit.
    More than once.

  30. mh

    Monty, no one here is interested in my UK death toll lotto.

    Wanna have a go?

    95 is taken. Stats released overnight.

  31. vr

    If which journal it is published is all you care about, here he is in The Economic Journal where almost all economists do not have a paper in.

    That being said I like some of Deirdre McCloskey’s work.

  32. egg_

    China’s way ahead on the COVID-19 chart, what a coincidence.

  33. Arky

    During the ball tampering melee, fvckwit.
    More than once.

    ..
    Yeah.
    That makes perfect sense.
    I bought a car from a mate of my plumber and spent 18 months restoring it and made a hundred videos of it because of some comment you made years ago that no one read.
    Mate, you’re fucked in the head.
    Where’s your vintage resto? Where’s your videos?
    Fuck me, this is the saddest conversation I have had in my life.
    We are done now.
    Sorry you are such a sad fuck.

  34. NoFixedAddress

    I currently live in a place where many many wounded folk arrive.

    And I try to say, you have to laugh

  35. JC

    Does any one know if we look back through history in the past 50 odd years has there ever been a serious flu pandemic that has been close to overrunning a hospital system round the world?

    I know about 4 or so years ago, Australia was very close to calling a flu epidemic in late January as folks going on overseas hols during the Xmas break were bring back bugs and infecting everyone.

  36. Tel

    The coronavirus spike is way above ant possible background noise.

    It was first reported at the end of December 2019 (maybe even before) after only a dozen or so cases.

    Did you read the link you posted?!?

    Experts have pinned the virus as starting possibly as early as October, months before the CCP alerted the world about the risks posed by the deadly disease. Rather than addressing the issue, China arrested journalists and doctors who tried to sound the alarm.

    Do you somehow think these doctors were trying to raise the alarm before they found anything? Or perhaps it was after they found something. Use your judgment here.

    At any rate there was no spike happening in October 2019, nor Nov either, and it was just building up in December, and if it really did start all the way back in October (speculative) then it could easily have gone around the world several times by now.

    Here’s the first confirmed date reporting a problem in Wuhan:

    Li had already become a national hero for alerting fellow doctors Dec. 30 in an online post about the emergence of a SARS-like illness, warning them to wear protective clothing to avoid infection.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/02/07/coronavirus-doctor-li-wenliang-death-china-censors-anger-speech/4688827002/

    Now link me to the “spike” of cases from December 2019 … off you go.

  37. Fisky

    Very odd to see so many “libertarians” running interference for Beijing. Whether it’s on trade, foreign policy or the ChinaVirus.

  38. egg_

    How are your former students?
    How is the Model A?

    3rd time I’ve asked.

  39. JC

    Yes Fisky, libertarians are working for the Chinese regime.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    I have decided, after careful consideration, to sue. Somebody. Anybody.

    For emotional trauma and realised FOMO after missing the Halley’s Comet-like event no one, even the worst doomsayers said would ever some true. Sure, there was talk it would someday get to this, but deep down I never really believed it. And that event was:

    ‘The facts are verifiable.
    Sorry they don’t accord with your ignorance.
    Not my problem.’

    Plagiarism Bob jumping the sharknado by posting a slab of information.
    From fucking Wikipedia.
    Having first removed all the references in said slab of text to assist in a pissweak attempt to deceive people that the words in that slab of text were things he thought of, and were readily sitting around in his shrivelled frontal lobe waiting to be put to paper.
    And finally, failing to attribute his ‘work’. Even if it is to Wikipedia. Which is what everybody else, aspirational PhD student or not, does here and everywhere else where opinions and assertions are made in the course of polite discussion.

    Proven liar. Demonstrated fraud. Shameless plagiarist.

    Cannot be denied.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Noah Barkin
    @noahbarkin
    Hundreds of vacationing skiers appear to have been infected with the #coronavirus in the Austrian ski resort of Ischgl and then spread it across Europe. Local officials kept the resort running for 1-1/2 weeks after they were first alerted to the risks

    People who ski are disgusting.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I know where the single malt is stored. I’m watching the immortal B.B.C series , “1990” starring Edward Woodward, about a country run by hundreds of thousands of public servants, working hard and monitoring all threats to the country…

  43. jupes

    Frogland LOCKDOWN update.

    Went for a walk to the green grocer and patisserie today for “essentials” (as per the form we had to fill out and carry). A few people around, a lot less traffic. The tabac shop was open too. No police seen. Buses still running but with only one or no passengers.

    Interesting yet boring times …

  44. NoFixedAddress

    Johanna

    A song from a person who grew up in ‘deplorable’ country

  45. egg_

    Lashing out at Beaugy many times.
    Lashing out at Struth.

    Rage.

    Lack of self awareness.

    Was there a mental health risk in being a male among a bunch of females at a Govt school?

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    Long fucking day. Again.

    Barry’s exhausted. Must push on though. Monty, yesterday:

    ‘Fare thee well, as I shuffle off this mortal coil. Huzzah for Mr Trump.’

    Monty, today:

    ‘Trump boo lol lockdown rake US to blame.’

  47. Arky

    How are your former students?

    ..
    Doing very well. I get calls and messages from around the Australia constantly. I can’t walk down a street in the town without bumping into an ex student. Invariable I bring a huge grin to their faces.

    How is the Model A?

    Pretty much finished. Running. Total restoration.
    Waiting for the end of stockmarket fluctuations to register it.
    ..
    Now we really are done.
    Kindly scroll me, like most people scroll you. I texted a few cats just now. They are reading the blog and have no idea who I’m arguing with because they habitually scroll you.
    Apparently I’m the only one who reads your shit.
    Sad.
    Goodbye loser.

  48. Knuckle Dragger

    45 has this bang on. And so does IT, for that matter.

    The Chinese virus. Because that’s what it is.

    If you wanted to go into semantics, you could possibly say ‘THIS Chinese virus’ to differentiate it from the mountain of other viruses that spawned in that Third World discarded lab animal eating shitfest of a country before spreading into civilisation and knocking off the normies. Old sick normies, but normies nonetheless.

    Knee-high inscrutable dry cleaners, for the benefit of Plagiarism Bob.

    Also IALs. Iron Age Locusts.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    #illeatbatswithyou

  50. NoFixedAddress

    @TopEnder

    Re: Hobart Casino type stuff

    Your a bloody legend man

    That would have been grouse as in A+

  51. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Proven liar. Demonstrated fraud. Shameless plagiarist.

    Try to understand Number’s Bobs desperate search for credibility. He’s posted here, before, about how he had read all about the war, and knew exactly what was going on there, when he was posted there.

    It’s since emerged, given what’s been written over the past twenty years or so, with access to the North Vietnamese official records, just how thoroughly, he fell for the Party line.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    Fucking hell. Now it’s restaurants. Melbourne restaurants, and Hosier Lane restaurants who are impossible to get near in the usual course of events and charge you several thousand dollars for an after dinner mint when you do.

    Of course they’re demanding the government step in and keep them in the style to which they’re accustomed, the thieving parasites.

  53. Post over on Michael Smith News explains why supermarkets having no problem with supply of toilet rolls.

    Little plastic buckets with handle called a tabo. Have had plenty of experience of them during trips to Phillipines.

    Useful standby.

    If I was living in a small town and outsiders coming in to bulk buy in local supermarket then I would be getting together with others to take counter measures. Lookout on road leading into town and text to others to welcome the visitors as park vehicle, possibly 4 flat tyres, plenty of photo taking and posting online etc.

  54. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu,

    Somewhere, undiscovered in some bloke’s shed will be Zapruder-like footage of Plagiarism Bob’s opt-out parade that he attended, and didn’t raise his hand because he was scared of being teased.

    Every day thereafter has been faux-nobility, white knighting and most importantly, self-loathing.

  55. Tel

    John Ioannidis knows what he writes about. He he is talking about power of tests. It’s from 2018.

    I remember that episode … they could have much more easily simply declared psychology and all of social science a load of bunk and then avoided agonizing over reproducibly issues.

    I mean, the lack of reproducibility is formal proof of what everyone instinctively knew already.

  56. Oops – should read as supermarkets in Phillipines.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu,

    Somewhere, undiscovered in some bloke’s shed will be Zapruder-like footage of Plagiarism Bob’s opt-out parade that he attended, and didn’t raise his hand because he was scared of being teased.

    Ek roll ap die vloor – or there would be Zapruder- like footage of Plagiarism Bob, raising his hand at the “opt out” parade, to go to the “fun factory” for the benefits open to “returned servicemen” – the war service housing loan, the opportunities for higher education…and turning against the war, when popular opinion in Australia turned against that war..

  58. Infidel Tiger

    Squawk Box
    @SquawkCNBC

    “No buybacks. Not now, not a year from now, not 20 years from now. Not ever.”
    @mcuban
    on attaching terms to companies that need a government bailout during the #coronavirus outbreak.

    Couldn’t agree more

    It’s time for the corporatist state to bend the knee.

  59. NoFixedAddress

    #wheresthedogmeat

  60. mh

    Nevada has closed all casino and gaming operations.

    More money left for hookers then.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    I didn’t say they were credible, just that they were multiple.

    “Multiple:.
    The word VikPol used about Pell to poison the wells.
    Until it became “singular”.
    Possibly soon to be “none”.

  62. NoFixedAddress

    clean up ‘national’ parks

    #wheresthedogmeat
    #koalastogo
    #lickahenrywombatsarse

  63. JC

    Oil is $23.80 a barrel, folks. The last time I think I saw it down here was before gulf war 1.

  64. Has the price gone down there at the pumps? Here in Holland it’s still sitting at 1.50 euro which is only a 15cent drop.

  65. BorisG

    Very odd to see so many “libertarians” running interference for Beijing. Whether it’s on trade, foreign policy or the ChinaVirus.

    Not sure I qualify as a libertarian. Anyway I oppose Beijing’s trade practices (especially theft of IP), aggressive behaviour in East China Sea and South China Sea, human rights violations, as well as their very bad behaviour on the virus, especially early on.

    Yet China is not outright evil across the board, like North Korea or Iran. Even their response to the virus, while with some flaws, shows this. The West needs to have a nuanced policy towards China. Preferably coordinated policy. Which is hard to achieve when leaders such as Trump is not interested in multilateral cooperation, undermines western alliances and is getting into trade wars with allies such as Europe, Korea and Japan. Sure they don’t get a free pass but there should always be a clear distinction as to who are your friends, and who are enemies. With Trump it is sometimes hard to tell.

  66. BorisG

    Oil is $23.80 a barrel, folks. The last time I think I saw it down here was before gulf war 1.

    JC, it was $12 in 1998.

  67. JC

    Adam , It has gone down but it majorly tempered by the fall in the Aussie Dollar.

  68. Watching Mighty Planes just now the A380s maiden voyage. The engineering of such things is masterful. Frankfurt to San Francisco. Was ages ago but the point stands. No diversity hire on this project.

  69. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3363087, posted on March 18, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    Does any one know if we look back through history in the past 50 odd years has there ever been a serious flu pandemic that has been close to overrunning a hospital system round the world?

    I found a great graph on, I think, Powerline the other day.
    It plotted the level of contagiousness(?) on one axis, and the mortality of those contracting the bug on the other axis.
    Furthest “North-East” on the graph is bad.
    1918/19 Spanish flu was way out there.
    Two other flu epidemics (1957 and another mid-century) ranked about half-way, along with an educated guess about where Kung Flu will end up.
    Not great, but not Spanish flu and certainly not the Black Death.

  70. BorisG

    Very odd to see so many “libertarians” running interference for Beijing. Whether it’s on trade, foreign policy or the ChinaVirus.

    Fisk, don’t you still consider yourself as a libertarian?

  71. Fisky

    The West needs to have a nuanced policy towards China. Preferably coordinated policy. Which is hard to achieve when leaders such as Trump is not interested in multilateral cooperation, undermines western alliances and is getting into trade wars with allies

    There is no prospect of a multilateral trade policy involving anyone in Europe. Germany is far too much in hock to both Russia and China. Never going to happen.

  72. Infidel Tiger

    Petrol is way down but so is our dollar.

    58cents!

  73. JC

    JC, it was $12 in 1998.

    Oh yea, that’s right, for a very short period of time.

  74. Arky

    The West needs to have a nuanced policy towards China.

    ..
    Nope.
    The West needs to turn it’s back and rebuild our industrial capacity in preparation for the inevitable war with China.

  75. NoFixedAddress

    BorisG
    #3363127, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:33 am

    Very odd to see so many “libertarians” running interference for Beijing. Whether it’s on trade, foreign policy or the ChinaVirus.

    Not sure I qualify as a libertarian. Anyway I oppose Beijing’s trade practices (especially theft of IP), aggressive behaviour in East China Sea and South China Sea, human rights violations, as well as their very bad behaviour on the virus, especially early on.

    Yet China is not outright evil across the board, like North Korea or Iran. Even their response to the virus, while with some flaws, shows this. The West needs to have a nuanced policy towards China. Preferably coordinated policy. Which is hard to achieve when leaders such as Trump is not interested in multilateral cooperation, undermines western alliances and is getting into trade wars with allies such as Europe, Korea and Japan. Sure they don’t get a free pass but there should always be a clear distinction as to who are your friends, and who are enemies. With Trump it is sometimes hard to tell.

    Fer FK sake BorisG

  76. Arky

    Heading straight into a trading halt again?

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Fucking hell. Now it’s restaurants. Melbourne restaurants, and Hosier Lane restaurants who are impossible to get near in the usual course of events and charge you several thousand dollars for an after dinner mint when you do.

    Of course they’re demanding the government step in and keep them in the style to which they’re accustomed, the thieving parasites.

    That banging noise you here is George Calamari banging his head against the wall.
    “Two months. If I’d hung on for two more fucking months.”

  78. Adam , It has gone down but it majorly tempered by the fall in the Aussie Dollar.

    Kinda glad I’m holding euros at the moment. Mind you, that might all blow up rather quickly too.

  79. The West needs to turn it’s back and rebuild our industrial capacity in preparation for the inevitable war with China.

    How many refineries has Australia got now? Is it one or none?

  80. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363141, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:39 am

    “The Chinese virus. Because that’s what it is.”

    I’m not so sure about that. There’s too much smoke-blowing for it to be a simple infection from bat soup or a loss of some of the substances within a local laboratory. You can pull out a number of points that would lead you to a North American developed attack. I don’t think we’ll have this one unscrambled for a number of years. There are even quite different theories as to what causes these viruses in the first place. If its biowarfare we’d want to look around for the people who were prepared in Advance. That would not seem to be China.

    r u 4 fkn real?

    wat. u and borisg work in tandem

    where’s dan8?

  81. Article in The Oz says for oldies to keep away from the grandkids and avoid the virus.

    That’s right up the Boomers’ playbook so they won’t even have to adjust their behaviour.

  82. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The West needs to have a nuanced policy towards China’

    Absolutely agreed.

    Nuanced between carpet bombing, infrastructure sabotage and building a bloody great wall around its border to keep the rest of them in, and where where they can’t spread the next killer virus caused by eating pangolins and live rat pups with soy sauce.

  83. BorisG

    wat. u and borisg work in tandem

    Don’t talk about me like this. I don’t buy these conspiracy theories, either from China or the US.

    BTW I was in Wuhan in early November. Maybe I brought the virus from Perth?

  84. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363147, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:50 am

    I trust and believe that Trump has nuclear carrying planes constantly in the air

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘BTW I was in Wuhan in early November’

    Did you have your pangolins medium rare or blue?

  86. Fisky

    Fisk, don’t you still consider yourself as a libertarian?

    YES! I am indeed a libertarian.

  87. NoFixedAddress

    BorisG
    #3363151, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:52 am

    wat. u and borisg work in tandem

    Don’t talk about me like this. I don’t buy these conspiracy theories, either from China or the US.

    BTW I was in Wuhan in early November. Maybe I brought the virus from Perth?

    LOL

    so its your fault

  88. BorisG

    they were caught completely unprepared.

    So what? It could either be from animals or accidental leak from a lab, not necessarily even military.

    The US origin of the virus is Russian and Chinese cheap propaganda shot. Don’t join this propaganda effort unless they pay you.

  89. Mark A

    Magic Bronson
    #3363141, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:39 am

    Hello JB
    How is Shanghai?

  90. Mark A

    BorisG
    #3363158, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:58 am

    Don’t join this propaganda effort unless they pay you.

    Oh but they do! They must be.
    Nobody in his/her right mind would spill this garbage otherwise.

  91. NoFixedAddress

    BorisG

    My apologies for my comment

    I refused to go HK last year because shit was gunna happen and went Singapore.

    But Sing is full on OBOR. far outski

    I got out of Singapore after 2 days and much discussion at airport but I had a proven paid on ticket to near the Chin IT joint just below the batsuckers

  92. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363162, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:07 am

    JB stands for???? Mark you are an idiot. Wake up to yourself. There are forces out there that want everyone to be fighting each-other. If the Russians and the Chinese think that the Americans did it, and the Americans think that the Chinese are to blame, thats quite a successful play by someone or other.

    Only the Chinese are rat shit scared

    Along with their ME mates

  93. NoFixedAddress

    @magic bronson

    that droning noise you can hear is obama

    trump has nuclear armed war planes

  94. Steve trickler

    Fine editing skills.



  95. Mark A

    Finished the day off with a huge winner at the Cannington greys Race 12 #1 $19
    Was a hard slog but worth it.

    Now for some lame pics.
    One I find disgusting but that’s people for you, I’m sure it wasn’t a setup, seen worse myself.

  96. Mark A

    Magic Bronson
    #3363173, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:31 am

    in reality I was the first one here to talk about excessive Chinese influence. I was the first person here to ever point out that selling all our strategic assets to communists ought not be considered free enterprise.

    Point me to it and I apologize.
    Don’t recall your moniker. for further back than a few days.

  97. BorisG

    Even a vaccine that DOESN’T work takes 18 months or so.

    yes and i predict it won’t be ready until about 18 months from now. or from January.

  98. NoFixedAddress

    thanks Steve t

    prefer

  99. BorisG

    If the Russians and the Chinese think that the Americans did it, and the Americans think that the Chinese are to blame, thats quite a successful play by someone or other.

    And, Magic, it does not matter whether you are for or against the Chinese. You are a complete and utter nut conspiracy theorist. And an extreme one at that.

    Neither Russians nor Chinese think that the Americans did it. They just say it, unofficially mind you, for propaganda purposes. It is amazing that people with half brain like you can fall for it.

  100. Arky

    In those days the economics illiterates would always equate; wanting a powerful manufacturing sector, with either tariffs or subsidies. You couldn’t so much as be in favour of powerful manufacturing without people presuming that you meant you wanted more tariffs or subsidies to business. It was quite exacerbating.

    ..
    Tell me about it.
    Some of the most frustrating conversations I have had in my life.

  101. Fisky

    Jesus Christ you are an idiot. You must be thinking I’m some sort of Beijing loyalist when in reality I was the first one here to talk about excessive Chinese influence. I was the first person here to ever point out that selling all our strategic assets to communists ought not be considered free enterprise. Which used to be a heresy at the time. Right on this blog.

    Actually, I was the one who reframed the entire issue of Chi-Com investment in our agriculture as Communist nationalisation.

  102. Mitch M.

    It will take decades to restore manufacturing. What concerns is that manufacturing serves as a base to develop skills. A country with engineers and chemists is going nowhere fast.

  103. Mitch M.

    A country WITHOUT …

  104. NoFixedAddress

    @Mark A

    well done the bet

    last 2 imgr asks me to log in

    do I have to do that?

  105. NoFixedAddress

    Mitch M.
    #3363191, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:50 am

    A country WITHOUT …

    we got it MM

  106. Infidel Tiger

    Graeme, couple of good points tonight.

    You have always been righteous about manufacturing and trade.

    You did slip a few points in there about Dhus and Chicoms I’m not ok with but we will avoid those.

  107. NoFixedAddress

    Fisky
    #3363189, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:49 am
    ……
    Actually, I was the one who reframed the entire issue of Chi-Com investment in our agriculture as Communist nationalization.

    so Fisky

    you will join me in investing in Chinese land?

  108. Mark A

    NoFixedAddress
    #3363192, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:51 am

    last 2 imgr asks me to log in

    do I have to do that?

    Strangely it asks me that too, I have an account so no problem, but they are shooting themselves in the foot by doing that because there are many other picture sharing apps around which I’m going to use in the future.
    Sorry about that.

  109. Mark A

    Magic Bronson
    #3363195, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:57 am

    “Neither Russians nor Chinese think that the Americans did it.”

    Yeah they do.

    Birdy get out while the getting out is easy, you are crazy mate.

  110. NoFixedAddress

    Mark A
    #3363197, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:58 am

    tnx

  111. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363195, posted on March 19, 2020 at 1:57 am

    “Neither Russians nor Chinese think that the Americans did it.”

    Yeah they do. And the Iranians too because their bigshots are all infected. Because these three countries don’t see the Deep State as separate from the American State.

    The former head of the CIA, Brennan, self confesses to voting for Gus Hall!

    FKN communist traitors

  112. NoFixedAddress

    for fk sake

    this is whom fkn Brennan voted for Arvo Kustaa Halberg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Hall

  113. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363203, posted on March 19, 2020 at 2:07 am

    Don’t worry MagicB

    Trump has primed planes circling the so called hot spots with ultimate death to deliver

    Did you see the other day?
    https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/2020/03/12/us-uk-troops-among-3-dead-in-iraq-rocket-attack-as-us-led-coalition-responds

  114. BorisG

    Funny I previously suggested NFA was Bird.

    Still he reminds me of someone who inhabited this place previously.

  115. NoFixedAddress

    the xunts who are targeting our soldiers who were on the front line deserve front line service in Northern Nigeria to protect Christians

  116. Oh come on

    From the online intro to some bullshit ABC podcast that no one listens to (I certainly didn’t):

    There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there about the origins of coronvirus — was it invented by the US military? The US Democrats? Maybe even by aliens?

    A glib line from some ABC sub editor betrays the utterly banal thinking of the ABC hivemind. Yes, it’s supposed to be a joke but literally no one thinks the Democrats are behind engineering the coronavirus. What, we’re supposed to think they could pull that off, but not the Iowa caucuses? Where are the laughs? No, the messaging is that stupid conservatives blame the wrong people. Any conspiracy theorist belief that the US military is responsible for the coronavirus is also remarkably exotic and not particularly well thought through.

    That the coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory may technically be unconfirmed but is comfortably plausible rather than tinfoil hat fare. Why it was produced and how and why it was released are legitimate questions.

    A possible explanation is that it’s the modern day equivalent of the tanks clearing out Tiananmen Square. Hong Kong’s insurgency could not be put down in such a way. Maybe the threat of a highly contagious virus might keep people off the streets. Not a bad idea, really, if you’re willing to do whatever it takes.

  117. jupes

    Fuck off Bird you dickhead.

  118. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363208, posted on March 19, 2020 at 2:18 am

    Yeah isn’t that interesting. They used to say that the communists put Gus Hall in charge of the American communist party because he was the only gentile communist they could find. On closer examination, as I think you were implying, he might have been a tribesman after all.

    MB

    No you stupid fk head.

    Brennan is a Communist like most deep state.

    And in case you wonder I probably have got more chooish blood than that fake american indian

    I grew up with a Father that didn’t like the choose because finance crap

    I have worked with and for Choose.

    I would bulldoze Gaza into the Med

  119. BorisG

    Hong Kong’s insurgency could not be put down in such a way. Maybe the threat of a highly contagious virus might keep people off the streets. Not a bad idea, really, if you’re willing to do whatever it takes.

    Another idiotic theory. HK riots died down well before the virus raised its ugly head.

  120. NoFixedAddress

    MB

    see, we ugly bastards can make movies

  121. The problem with posting on the Cat when living in Europe is that my prime time is the local lunatic time in Australia.

  122. BorisG

    Good point Adam. Get back! It is pretty dangerous out there.

  123. jupes

    The problem with posting on the Cat when living in Europe is that my prime time is the local lunatic time in Australia.

    Indeed.

  124. NoFixedAddress

    Adam
    #3363223, posted on March 19, 2020 at 2:42 am

    The problem with posting on the Cat when living in Europe is that my prime time is the local lunatic time in Australia.

    I’m Agent 54

  125. Agent 54

    Magic Bronson
    #3363228, posted on March 19, 2020 at 2:53 am

    what about we have 150 States?

  126. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363228, posted on March 19, 2020 at 2:53 am

    what about we have 150 States?

  127. NoFixedAddress

    serious question MagicB

  128. Arky

    You are dummies. You don’t know what is going on around you. You are low-level intellects. You believe what you are told. You are a bunch of fuckwits.

    ..
    Egg. He’s talking to you. Answer the man.

  129. Boris

    How long does it usually take from the bird reincarnation till he is extinguished?

    There are many idiots on Cat but Bird appears to be literally mad. He must be caged for his own protection.

  130. Arky

    Like what Switzerland did, inspired as they were by the Americans.

    ..
    No.
    They were inspired by cheese.

  131. Arky

    Carnival cruise lines. Currently down 32% on the day.
    They’re fucked.
    Much like this fred.

  132. NoFixedAddress

    MagicB

    wrap your pin head around the concept of 150 States of Australia

  133. Arky

    Egg is a nice old man.

    ..
    Egg’s a good guy usually, but he asked for a slapping.

  134. Look at all these smug low-IQ retards standing around with their arms folded trying to act superior. Guys you are not smart. You are dummies. You don’t know what is going on around you. You are low-level intellects. You believe what you are told. You are a bunch of fuckwits.

    You all upset ’cause you couldn’t find anyone to blow today?

  135. Arky

    Chevron hasn’t been this price since 2006.
    Occidental Petroleum part of the old Standard oil wasn’t this price since 2000.
    Exxon is back at 2003 prices.
    Royal Dutch Shell hasn’t been near this price since the 1990’s

  136. I’m not gay; my boyfriend is.

  137. NoFixedAddress

    Magic Bronson
    #3363250, posted on March 19, 2020 at 3:21 am

    “Adam” its probably not a good thing that you bring your European fag-talk to this part of the world. This is a not a cruising blog you bum-sucking homo.

    lol

  138. NoFixedAddress

    anti fracking is paid by the communist so called wwf- world wide fuvkheads

  139. That must be why I really love the new Marvel new new superheros.

  140. More Marvel amazeball details here! Right up your back alley, Magic B, I would think.

  141. NoFixedAddress

    eat dogs

    or koalas

    mot sure which would be worse

    maybe Ken Henry WomBATS taste the best

  142. Quokkas, mate. You get to kick them around and then grill the smelly bastards. That’s tops. Only we were doing it once, right? And then Magic B comes along and he gets all upset and stuff. Starts running around waving his gigantic oversized arms in the air, kinda like a demented epileptic windmill. And he’s trying to save the fucking quokka, but the quokka ain’t having none of it, like, and he wants to get away from him. And they’re just running around and running around, and we’re all throwing full beers cans at him.

    He didn’t talk to us for weeks after that. It was fucking brilliant. Good times.

  143. NoFixedAddress

    Adam
    #3363261, posted on March 19, 2020 at 3:39 am

    Quokkas, mate. You get to kick them around and then grill the smelly bastards. That’s tops. Only we were doing it once, right? And then Magic B comes along and he gets all upset and stuff. Starts running around waving his gigantic oversized arms in the air, kinda like a demented epileptic windmill. And he’s trying to save the fucking quokka, but the quokka ain’t having none of it, like, and he wants to get away from him. And they’re just running around and running around, and we’re all throwing full beers cans at him.

    He didn’t talk to us for weeks after that. It was fucking brilliant. Good times.

    so

    you reckon someone is off their meds?

  144. NoFixedAddress

    Adam

    I agree

    Ken Henry is a loon

  145. On a more serious note, I’ve heard that this global warming is a thing. Anybody know anything about that? It sounds a bit worrying.

  146. NoFixedAddress

    fer fk sake

    loons like henry are so called public servants

    and I laughed and laughed and laughed

  147. NoFixedAddress

    Adam
    #3363266, posted on March 19, 2020 at 3:52 am

    On a more serious note, I’ve heard that this global warming is a thing. Anybody know anything about that? It sounds a bit worrying.

    COversion19 is a better bet than COversion2

  148. Megan

    Thanks Tom. A common viral thread this morning.

  149. struth

    Arky.
    I am not a funded artist.
    I work in pubs and must attract an audience to be rebooked.
    Pubs and resorts that are not cancelling gigs because of the fear of an audience gathering as much as no one going for feeds or meeting for a few drinks and I play places that rely on tourism in their hungreds of room resorts that are empty.
    I’m losing gigs because those venues look like closing altogether.
    They won’t come back.
    Now you wanna speak numbers……ok
    Where were you last year when 1163 Australians died of a contagious virus?
    Why was that not worth ckosing down the country then?

  150. struth

    I just wantvto know what is so important about the six this year compared to the1163 last year that is reaon to help the left destroy Australia?

  151. struth

    I’m in fear.
    Fear of how many the panic is going to kill.
    Fear of how much misery and death the new dark ages we’ll enter into through a lack of stoic calm masculine thought at this time.
    All because of a contagious virus that acts like a bad flu virus.
    That hasn’t killed as many in OBOR Italy as the flu did last year.
    And age and pre existing conditions aside, isn’t going to kill you.
    The disease isn’t worth the panic.
    A panic that if not fought will turn the lights out in the west and really cause death and misery.

  152. struth

    I’m always moderated lately.

  153. struth

    So lets talk numbers Arky.
    What is the potential death and misery numbers when we allow the MSM to destroy the western world?
    For they will not care about millions dead rather than see capitalism fight back under Trump.
    They are at war and you know it.

  154. 2dogs

    Sinc! Help!

    Magic Bronson = Bird

  155. struth

    Unfortunately my own elderly parents like many here still can’t seem to get their heads around just how much bullshit they are being fed by the MSM…….and they were my tail end Charlies on the convoy and saw first hand the rabid communist liars the media are.

  156. struth

    It’s a generational thing……….they still watch the television and the MSM know it.

    Here’s your choices Arky.
    You don’t have any others.
    You just don’t.
    It’s unfortunate and regrettable but that’s the world we live in.
    We either stop the panic over a contagious virus the likes of which kill milions world wide every year or we let the MSM destroy the west.
    China is buying up Brownes milk and destroyed companies as we speak.

  157. rickw

    How many refineries has Australia got now? Is it one or none?

    There are 4 last time I checked, Brisbane (maybe it shut?), Geelong, Melbourne, Perth. I don’t think there is one that can make lubricant base stocks. Adelaide closed ages ago.

    Capacity of these 4 is less than one Asian refinery, and less than the total demand for the country.

    Why? Government Policy. There has been a 40 year war being waged against the oil and gas industry. Who would invest in major capacity expansions? most investments have been driven by “clean” fuel regulations.

  158. struth

    Just like the climate change hoax a bushfire is pushed by the evil world wide MSM…..owned by socialists as unprecedented.
    We know it isn’t.
    They are doing the same thing with this virus.
    No one wants a bushfire and all should be done to minimise the risk but they happen and we don’t abandon Australia to the Chinese no matter how many it kills.

  159. Entropy

    from MitchM’s baldy link.

    The process took several weeks, mirrored normal hair follicle development and resulted in new hair shafts. The follicles grew on both the back of mice, where hair normally occurs, and even in paw areas that are usually hairless. Not unexpectedly the new hair follicles were accompanied with skin tumors. But, promisingly, treatment with Hedgehog-pathway inhibitor Vismodegib restricted tumor growth while keeping the new follicles intact. This suggests that future work on improving when and where Hedgehog signaling is activated may allow new follicle formation in adult skin with less adverse effects.

    What could go wrong. Like global warming and Wuhan Virus responses, the cure can be worse than the disease.
    .

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    New insights provide hope for new hair growth in adults

    Traders may need it. Quite a bit of hair tearing is going on I suspect. The Dow is down 9% and oil is down 17% on the US trading day with half an hour to go.

    WTI is now just over $22/bbl. I wonder what that will do to the oily MENA regimes?

  161. Dr Faustus

    Virus reporting jumps about 15k in a day.
    Notice how China has levelled off.

    The dashboard tool is really useful. Interestingly, when you dig down into the detail using the GIS regional tool, China distinguishes itself from the rest of the world in that, in almost all provinces, reported C19 cases resulted in either death, or recovery. Unlike the rest of the World, there are very few ‘active’ cases reported.

    Either the Chinese are amazingly resilient and get better faster than anyone else, or the lingering sick are recategorised out of the system, or an inexplicable error has crept into the PRC reporting.

  162. mh

    UK death lotto came in at ….. 104

  163. bespoke

    Egg’s a good guy usually, but he asked for a slapping.

    Not with a tissue drenched in tears.

  164. Herodotus

    Thanks Tom, but pbs.twimg blanks my ipad screen. The others work ok.

  165. bespoke

    Mark A
    I always found dark humour to be very cathartic in tuff times. And the wife is loving the pics, cheers.

  166. Herodotus

    Bronson seems ok.
    Even if he is G. bird.

  167. mh

    Italy reporting 475 new deaths

    Total deaths 2978

    So expect over the weekend their number of deaths to reach over 4000

  168. Either the Chinese are amazingly resilient and get better faster than anyone else, or the lingering sick are recategorised out of the system, or an inexplicable error has crept into the PRC reporting.

    In other words, the numbers are rubbish. There is no reason on this God’s earth to believe anything coming out of China.

  169. Crossie

    Either the Chinese are amazingly resilient and get better faster than anyone else, or the lingering sick are recategorised out of the system, or an inexplicable error has crept into the PRC reporting.

    Yeah, inexplicable, go with that.

  170. struth

    The reaction to this virus, taken by our liberal party government is to use it as an excuse to completely crash the economy.
    They have panicked and pushed the panic into hysteria.
    No one is sure how stupid the government will be over this and proves everyday thst the hoarders are spurred on by their disgusting over reaction.
    Our politicians are either directly or indirectly through contract owned by China.
    If people do not tell them to get fucked very soon Australia is history.

  171. Farmer Gez

    We’d better hope that the virus moves along quickly as the fruit and veg will get scarce. Backpackers and foreign pickers won’t be allowed in.
    Bail those airlines out first though.

  172. Dr Faustus

    WTI is now just over $22/bbl. I wonder what that will do to the oily MENA regimes?

    The Russia-Saudi ‘price war’ is aimed squarely at the US shale oil industry.

    At US$22/bbl, Russian and Saudi Arabian production is running at, or below average cash cost.
    On the other hand, US shale oil producers are in a world of pain: cash costs are in the range US$40-$60/bbl and reservoir engineering issues force shale producers to continue pumping – or permanently lose productivity and reserves from their heavily-fracked unconventional reservoirs.

    The aim of the game is to force US unconventional producers out of the market on a permanent/long-term basis – and effectively have the US provide the 3-4 million bbl/day production cut Russia and Saudi desperately need to get the oil price up to US$80+ and prop up their creaking economies.

    Neither Russia nor Saudi Arabia give one single fuck about the fate of ME producers – OPEC had its chance two weeks ago and dealt itself out of the decision-making. Particularly tough shit for Iran; regime collapse would be an added bonus for both dancing gorillas.

    Huge unfolding strategic geopolitical issues hanging off this.

  173. struth

    And those nodding in furious agreement with each other’s sensible middle of the road outlook regarding the fact thst it’s ok to shut down the country for a bit so the hospitals don’t get swamped is fucking crazy.
    80 percent of people that get the virus won’t need to be hospitalised and our socialist health care system would be able to cope if our beloved government didn’t spend billions sabotaging Australian power grid handing billions to black fella rubbish, foreigh aid, the UN, the ABC SBS and Communist Universities.

  174. Dr Faustus

    The UK will close schools to almost all students but the children of health workers and other vulnerable people will be exempted from the shutdown.

    Last week, Bozza insisted that this was never, ever going to happen – and in fact was unnecessary and would be quite wrong based on ‘the science’. Not instantly clear how the sprogs of health workers will actually be educated/cared for during the shutdown.

    This will happen here in the next few weeks.

  175. struth

    How many hospital beds could the stimulus package paid for?
    That eighty percent figure is on worse case scenario.
    It would be more like 95% of those infected will not require hospitalization.

  176. Bar Beach Swimmer:

    The businesses referred to, including the government-owned Australia Post, seems to have shown no concern for Australian consumers, riding instead on the coat tales of the celestials. And the government seems to have done even less about this phenomenon. Well, it was fine when products were in abundance, or seemed to be. But now, we’re supposed to show a generosity of spirit because “we’re all in this together”. But is that the case? From that article, not at all. There’s a fifth column operating in this country and it needs to be shut down.

    For a culture that supposedly relies on “Saving Face”, they certainly don’t mind being seen in a very negative light.
    Asiatic reputations are going to take bloody big hit from here on in. And deservedly so.

  177. Dr Faustus

    Fortunately, the UK Government has worked through the finer details of collapsing the education system:

    [Education Minister] Williamson said pupils in England would not have to sit GCSE, A-levels or Sats exams this year, saying: “I can confirm that we will not go ahead with assessments or exams, and that we will not be publishing performance tables for this academic year. We will work with the sector to ensure children get the qualifications that they need.”

    Asked how pupils would receive qualifications at the daily No 10 press conference, Johnson gave no details, saying only: “We will make sure that their progress is not impeded as a result of this decision we have to make now.”

    This will be a Clown Circus, with lasting impact: the cohort of 2020 will be condoned forever to have dodgy qualification.

  178. Good morning all.
    Waiting out front of Woolworths for the elderly and disabled to complete their shopping. Entry through one door only with a guard present. Guard is being over zealous, asking obvious elderly to brandish their identification. No sign of any er, ‘outside influence’ so to speak. But such are the numbers at present there will be what Paddy shot at for the rest.

  179. struth

    Amazing stuff in Venestralia Black Ball.

  180. notafan

    China now ‘saving face’ on coronavirus statistics.

    We don’t know how many outside hospital deaths were not reported nor will we ever.

    Italy running at 8% in critical condition

  181. struth

    Has Australia had another death overnight ?
    I don’t mean the hundreds of deaths nation wide of elderly people who got pneumonia as they died as per usual.
    But from the VIRUS OF DOOM.

  182. notafan

    Iran on the other hand have zero in critical condition but their death toll continues to rise.

  183. Reading the Hun and thank fuck the football is on. This news sullied somewhat with this paragraph on the back page:

    ‘Sports medicine expert Dr Peter Larkins said players would have to be mindful of their on-field hygiene and tackling techniques.’

    So lads, game’s in the balance, try not sweating profusely and let the guy with the pill run through and kick the winning goal. Not entirely sure that advice from the good doctor will be adhered to.

  184. notafan

    It’s never going to be apples with apples though.

    We can speculate that countries like the US have now been able to isolate the vunerable that only the comparatively healthy are getting exposure to account for the much lower percentage of critical cases.

  185. How about we call the Boss “Eleven”?

  186. This will happen here in the next few weeks.

    Happens every year.
    It’s called Easter.…..

  187. Well the guard isn’t armed struth. Yet! He comes to me and asks what I am doing I disjointed English. ‘You waiting for smokes?’ 😂 I am 50 metres from the entrance. Told him to go away and do his job. Truly amazing time to live.

  188. Pete M:

    they have run out of sanitizer and hand wash at school and rationing it – how safe is that? The snotty brats don’t use it anywhere near enough anyway, and no cleaner comes near the desks to actually wipe them down at end of class – it is all BS what the schools are saying about extra cleaning.

    Do the kids go from one classroom to the other, or do they just stay in one room?

  189. Porter

    Good morning Black Ball. That’s a surreal scene.

  190. Porter

    Lee Casey

    @Lncasey12

    How come it’s only men and women getting the coronavirus, what about the other 47 genders

    6:52 AM · Mar 17, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

    37.8K

    Retweets

    171.4K

    Likes

  191. Porter

    Schools can still use good old fashioned soap. It would be a great fun science class to make your own although I wouldn’t recommend that for the very young.

  192. Porter

    Prue MacSween

    @macsween_prue

    ·

    Mar 18

    Thanks

    @RealMarkLatham

    for telling us Greenie

    @Matt_KeanMP

    has given $90k to Greenie Glen Innes Council to build a viewing platform & $20k for a monument to celebrate renewables.A grave misuse of taxpayer funds 4 propaganda. Does nothing to help this struggling town

    @GladysB

  193. Also very humourous to see some punters younger than I trying to argue with Tibor* for access.

    *Simpsons reference.

  194. struth

    Kids aren’t learning anything at school anyway.
    gets them away from commo indoctrinators like sniffy.

  195. Porter

    It’s good to see country people on Twitter calling out the supermarket Hhoppers from the city. Here one 2GB listener took a picture of one busload
    https://mobile.twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1240145526206717953

  196. Mater

    Good morning Black Ball. That’s a surreal scene.

    Modern Australia.
    Produce ID to buy food…but not necessary to vote.
    Surreal indeed.

  197. Knuckle Dragger

    Bird, overnight:

    ‘I was the first one here to talk about excessive Chinese influence’

    and

    ‘I was the first person here to also call for reindustrialisation’

    but

    ‘The records were lost.’

    Didn’t know Bird was Simon Overland.

  198. struth

    Also get told time to go shopping.

  199. NoFixedAddress

    It appears that there are multiple promising therapies to treat COVID-19.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/one-more-treatment.php

  200. struth

    So not one death in this nation of twenty six million overnight from the VIRUS OF DOOM?

  201. Porter

    Disappointed to read online that Alan Jones was blaming Coles and Woolworths the lack of supplies. Well I’m loathe to defend them at the best of times the problem is just the supply chain. The demand is so high they just can’t keep up with deliveries and restocking shelves.

  202. struth

    If only we’d done this last year maybe the 1163 Flu victims may have made it.

  203. Porter

    It’s the infection rate that’s the one to watch struth and the percentage of those who need hospitalization and/or are serious

  204. Bruce of Newcastle

    It appears that there are multiple promising therapies to treat COVID-19.

    One of the interesting bits in that report is the Japanese have been quietly using Avigan since February. That may be why the Diamond Princess fatality rate stayed at 1% despite the general elderly flavour of cruise ship passengers.

    I hope our hospitals are taking note. And Canberra.

  205. struth

    Alan is a silly old poof.
    And it’s obvious to all though unspoken, you can’t get the poof out of him……so to speak.

  206. Dr Faustus

    It’s good to see country people on Twitter calling out the supermarket Hhoppers from the city. Here one 2GB listener took a picture of one busload

    The Daily Mail publishes photos of an out-of-town raid on Foodworks, Gisbourne. Curiously, it seems to be largely the same demographic as the 2GB one.

    The Age is more culturally sensitive, and publishes a shot of the same Foodworks that conclusively shows the offenders to be vermin pensioners.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    Over 8000 punters toes-up from BatFlu. Globally. Since January.

    For context, that’s about a day and a half on the Western Front at Fromelles for our troops in 1916.

  208. pete m

    Winston from yr 3 they have specialist classes like music, language, sport and library where they move about school but stay in same class group.

    Daughter in high school changes every hour classes.

  209. struth

    Go on Porter….you too can quote OBOR Chinese owned third world hospitals, ancient population Italy.

    I’ll type slow for the hard of hearing.
    When you don’t know the total infections or the infection rate you don’t know the death rate.
    Fullstop.
    That like the little piece of skin between the you know whats is a fact.

  210. struth

    Yeah but they were only white blokes KD.
    This virus is killing humans.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    It would appear the NSW wallopers, or more correctly their betters have arranged to patrol dunny roll aisles after ‘discussions’ with Woollies, Aldi et al.

    This is a bit weird, because in general terms I’ve heard that this is a gigantic no-no – ie, retailers, festival organisers etc are made to massively commit to the expense of hiring private security before the [free] cops get involved.

    Then again, the prospect of working in aircon and potentially batoning a fat, entitled wildebeest in activewear to the floor and then giving it a good kicking, Rodney King-style probably appeals to most people.

  212. NoFixedAddress

    struth
    #3363382, posted on March 19, 2020 at 8:21 am

    Yeah but they were only white blokes KD.
    This virus is killing humans.

    No struth

    it’s worse than that

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/first-dog-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-has-died-in-hong-kong/

  213. NoFixedAddress

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3363384, posted on March 19, 2020 at 8:24 am

    It would appear the NSW wallopers, or more correctly their betters have arranged to patrol dunny roll aisles after ‘discussions’ with Woollies, Aldi et al.

    This is a bit weird, because in general terms I’ve heard that this is a gigantic no-no – ie, retailers, festival organisers etc are made to massively commit to the expense of hiring private security before the [free] cops get involved.

    Then again, the prospect of working in aircon and potentially batoning a fat, entitled wildebeest in activewear to the floor and then giving it a good kicking, Rodney King-style probably appeals to most people.

    ROFL

  214. Helen

    That dog was 17 years old. FFS. It died of old age.

  215. MatrixTransform

    is struth a virus-denier ?

  216. Knuckle Dragger

    My old Staffie’s 16.

    She is the elderly canine equivalent of Ruth Cracknell in Mother and Son.

    I doubt she’ll she another Wet, but I said that last year as well.

  217. is struth a virus-denier ?

    Yeah he is a week behind. Everyone else has moved on to communist hysteria.

  218. Farmer Gez

    Struth is a virus denier.
    Arky is a virus influencer.
    The rest of us have no idea.

  219. NoFixedAddress

    Helen
    #3363390, posted on March 19, 2020 at 8:34 am

    That dog was 17 years old. FFS. It died of old age.

    I know Helen but I had to laugh and laugh and laugh

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    *see another Wet*

    I actually doubt she’ll she much of anything, the 3/4 blind old mole. Walks into fridges and chairs out the back under lights at night and so on.

    Sometimes she’ll just slowly walk around, find herself head first in a corner and just stand there. She’s like a cow though – get her head turned the right way, and off she goes.

  221. Farmer Gez

    Speaking of deniers. What happening with the justice deniers of the HC?

  222. Woolworths couldn’t organise for toilet paper to be delivered before the opening of business, let alone shelved. FMD

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