Tuesday Forum: March 17, 2020

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  1. Arky:

    We wouldn’t be here if the bloody people charged with making decisions had done the right thing and closed the borders to China from the end of January,

    The issue here, Arky, is that the government had no plan on how to deal with the virus. And this is despite the previous Chookflu, Oinkaflu, et al.
    This is the fourth? viral illness to sweep the nation and the bloody government still has no clue on what to do. It’s incompetence supercharged. There may have been plans, but what good are plans if there are no stocks of the necessary goods to deal with the problem? Or the political will to commence and enforce them?
    The whole sanitiser issue could have been dealt with by the manufacturers being paid to have excess stocks already made and in storage – current orders being filled from older stock and new stock replacing the outgoing. The same for canned goods – make a stockpile and the government subsidising it through a Civil Defence organisation.
    The hoarding could also have been dealt with by immediate limitation of excess buying.
    Close down the Daigou pipeline. You won’t close it completely, but at least plug the outflow of goods – I think the cost of sending stuff back to the old country should be raised tenfold.
    The issue of quarantine was a bloody disgrace – quarantines are only effective if they are enacted early and apply to everyone. Perhaps an international airport up north with quarantine facilities and hospital. It doesn’t need to be staffed full time. Staffing could be from a cohort of Docs/Surgeons/Nurses/Orderlies etc who had been given extra training in communicable diseases and put themselves on a roster of availability at extra rates of pay. The encouragement of students to come back to Australia was stupid.

    All of this is a political decision but the politicians have shown themselves incapable of reacting to threats.
    And that is why this clusterfuck will happen again even as this one fades from memory.

  2. calli

    It’s good to see country people on Twitter calling out the supermarket Hhoppers from the city. Here one 2GB listener took a picture of one busload
    https://mobile.twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1240145526206717953

    Hang about.

    They don’t look like the elderly, frightened asian shoppers described by someone here last night. You know, the ones remembering the Long March famines and the Great Leap Forward.

    They look…young.

  3. lotocoti

    To be fair, they could only work with the information they were given.
    On the other hand, Chinese authorities.

  4. Knuckle Dragger

    Monty’s recovered, and realised he’s not going to die with his face eaten off.

    That sort of thing’s for other people now. Again.

  5. NoFixedAddress

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3363399, posted on March 19, 2020 at 8:39 am

    *see another Wet*

    stop it Knuckles

    sounds gorgeous the poor thing

  6. calli

    Struth is a virus denier.
    Arky is a virus influencer.
    The rest of us have no idea.

    And that, dear friends, is why I tune in. 🙂

  7. notafan

    There goes the narrative.

    The only statistics that matter to me are seriously ill, seriously ill; died, seriously ill; recovered.

    CNN gas certificate numbers of young adults are seriously ill in Italy

  8. MatrixTransform

    The rest of us have no idea.

    LOL

    my son’s best mate from high school is a very prominent “influencer” and he make money hand over fist.
    it has actually made him seem smarter

    very handsome fella.
    You’ll see his dial on the telly and on rolling advertisement tv’s (like those that used to be in what they used to call shopping centres)

    I saw the lad late last year at a social (before they were banned) and I asked him straight up, “what…the…fuck…is an influencer?”

    turns out its just a model with a marketing team

  9. Farmer Gez

    I’m waiting at the front gate of the sheds for a directionally challenged truck driver and the pet dog just farted in the ute. That has to be an anti Wuhan flu agent.

  10. Mater

    Magic Bronson
    #3363067, posted on March 18, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    These old guys on the busses, they are the children whose parents survived through the worst famine in all of history. Then they had extreme hunger again in the 70’s. We need to get with THEIR reality.

    Magic Bronson, Bird or whatever name you chose to use today,

    Have a look at the link posted by Porter above:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1240145526206717953

    Do these people in the busses REALLY look look like ‘elderly celestial gentleman’? FO champ!

    Just selfish young turds partaking in an organised strip mining excursion to rural supermarkets which can barely sustain the local populace at the best of times.

    Nothing to do with inter generational memories of 70’s communism, just a bunch of pricks with incompatible values and bugger all scruples.

    We’re now living with it everyday. The fact of the matter is, that every local feels very self conscious when they even have one pack of TP in their basket, at the moment, for fear of diddling someone else or getting a reputation. Small towns are very self regulating like that. Every knows everyone else, and word gets around.

    These ‘visitors’ have no shame whatsoever. They hold an arm out and scrap everything into their basket, take it out to their trailers/buses and head back in for another go. They don’t give a shit about what other people think of them because they generally don’t give a shit about other people, full stop.

    Everything in this country was structured around a high trust society. If the loss of this trust keeps going, a fundamental reformation will be required, and I’m not in for where that will end up.

    You can keep your rationalisations and explanations. It’s not good, it’s not necessary (at that scale) and it’s not justified.

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston:

    ‘There may have been plans, but what good are plans if there are no stocks of the necessary goods to deal with the problem?’

    Nonexistent.
    Strategic.
    Fuel.
    Reserve.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston:

    ‘There may have been plans, but what good are plans if there are no stocks of the necessary goods to deal with the problem?’

    Invisible.
    Strategic.
    Fuel.
    Reserve.

  13. It appears that there are multiple promising therapies to treat COVID-19.

    Alex Jones’ toothpaste has it covered.

  14. notafan

    Chinese personal shoppers by the busload.

    ABC were claiming 150,000 last July.

    Nice almost tax free little earner*

    *I don’t suppose they are lodging bas statements to get GST on their exports back.

  15. Porter

    They don’t look like the elderly, frightened asian shoppers described by someone here last night. You know, the ones remembering the Long March famines and the Great Leap Forward.

    Yeah…strange that.
    You know I wonder how much of this is the Chinese chords just looking out for themselves and all stripping the place to send to the relatives or a little bit of psychops ( like the CCP suddenly blaming the Americans for the virus.). Regardless of whether it is A B or C they should be called out and people should not be afraid of turning them away or talking about the Chinese virus or whatever. This is where Trump is no fool call stop he realises the psych-ops can be damaging because they erode confidence in a country’s authority and systems and create chaos.
    You know I wonder how much of this is the hordes

  16. Porter

    Delete the last sentence.

  17. struth

    You can’t have a debate if everyone’s sooking in the corner in furious agreement as is the want of the shameless.

  18. calli

    You said it better Mater. 😊

  19. notafan

    Check outbound air freight.

    I drove past one of the Chinese packaging places on the corner of Whitehorse Road and Station Street Box Hill yesterday the window was completely filled with parcels ready to go.

  20. Porter

    Try again:
    You know I wonder how much of this is the Chinese hordes just looking out for themselves and/or stripping the place to send to the relatives or a little bit of psychops ( like the CCP suddenly blaming the Americans for the virus.). Regardless of whether it is A B or C they should be called out and people should not be afraid of turning them away or talking about the Chinese virus or whatever. This is where Trump is no fool because he realises the psych-ops can be damaging because they erode confidence in a country’s authority and systems and create chaos.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    I saw the lad late last year at a social (before they were banned) and I asked him straight up, “what…the…fuck…is an influencer?”

    Pronounced “influenza”.

  22. Porter

    Mater, exactly right. Well said.

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘They don’t give a shit about what other people think of them because they generally don’t give a shit about other people, full stop.’

    Correct. Iron Age Locusts. Always have been, and always will be.

    Conditioned to believe that much like army ants, there’s so many of the bloody things that whatever they do doesn’t matter. The single rudest, most self-absorbed uncaring bunch of wankers going around.

    Observe them at tourist sites. In shops. At food courts, and especially buffets.

    DRIVING.

    Anti-social parasites, expert at not only all of the above, but in playing the big fat victim card at the first hint of mild protest. ‘All praise Chai-nerrr, or we take Chineee money away.’ But they won’t, of course.

  24. calli

    Check outbound air freight.

    I mentioned that last night. It will all be perfectly legal, of course.

    Also lockups. Full of tucker and necessities waiting for shortages to become a black market. Noice little earner.

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3363411, posted on March 19, 2020 at 8:44 am”

    Great comment Mater.

  26. Geriatric Mayfly

    Why are such signs dangling from the registers at my local rural supermarket? The ones that request courtesy and good manners, and warn that abuse and malign behaviour towards staff will not be accepted. I had always assumed that provincials were well aware of the above as a matter of course. But, I guess every hamlet these days, has within it pockets of ‘the poor’ who for some reason arrive at the mart in an addled state of mind.

  27. Porter

    I drove past one of the Chinese packaging places on the corner of Whitehorse Road and Station Street Box Hill yesterday the window was completely filled with parcels ready to go.

    I hope the airlines keep cancelling flights and I hope the government does not provide any assistance to Airlines who run freight operations to China. In fact ID confiscate those packages as reparations and distribute their contents. But remember that Morrison government has allowed the mass immigration to continue unabated up to 300000 a year most of them Indian and Chinese students who just stay here and then bring out 50000 old relative full stop the Chinese also circumvent our rules which prohibit foreign ownership of residential property by getting fairley’s here to buy property for them. As we know they’ve also bought up key agricultural land and interests etc etc. The Chinese even owne the power grid here and we won’t talk about the price gouging there which just adds to our phenomenal electricity cost.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Smart move by the people of Waurn Ponds.
    Making their Woolworths appear like a transmission point for Kung Flu.

  29. mh

    Dr Faustus
    #3363335, posted on March 19, 2020 at 7:19 am
    The UK will close schools to almost all students but the children of health workers and other vulnerable people will be exempted from the shutdown.

    Last week, Bozza insisted that this was never, ever going to happen – and in fact was unnecessary and would be quite wrong based on ‘the science’

    I’ve been highlighting the appalling shit show of Boris Johnson’s government so that hopefully the Morrison government would stop taking advice from BoJo, which Morrison said he was doing.

  30. Fisky:

    Very odd to see so many “libertarians” running interference for Beijing. Whether it’s on trade, foreign policy or the ChinaVirus.

    Why is it odd?
    The Libertarian movement was co opted by the Marxists decades ago, and people still haven’t noticed.

  31. Porter

    Apologies I should not be typing with one hand while drinking coffee with the other and with a spastic autocorrect on the loose.

  32. NoFixedAddress

    from a previously posted article reference

    Those concerned with global health issues may wonder why it is that China is wracked regularly by viral epidemics in addition to coronavirus, such as SARS, African Swine Fever, and avian flu (another outbreak is happening right now). Others may begin to look more carefully at China’s environmental devastation and the hundreds of thousands of premature deaths each year from air and water pollution.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/18/beijing_fears_covid-19_is_turning_point_for_china_globalization__142686.html

  33. Bugger.
    B Coy reunion in Adelaide cancelled.
    Very sad.
    For some, this is probably the last time they’ll be fit enough to get together.
    The 22nd April is the 50th anniversary of our big bunker contact.
    We took 1 KIA and 2 WIA during the incident, and another digger died of heat exhaustion the day after a company move overnight on foot to get to the AO.
    We were planning a church service and wreath laying to remember them.

  34. The Beer Whisperer

    Now link me to the “spike” of cases from December 2019 … off you go.

    Nice goalpost shifting, Tel, but it won’t work here.

    The first cases were in Wuhan, then elsewhere in China, then in other Asian countries, then the rest of the world.

    Easily verifiable.

    Just face it, Tel. You have the hardest job on Earth, being an apologist for the worst regime on earth.

    Truth be told, I expected better from you. Much better.

  35. Cassie of Sydney

    I almost feel like reposting my comment from two Saturday’s ago…you know the one where I then endured a monumental pile on…(for no good reason)…the comment where I referred to people in supermarkets brawling over TP and other essential items as “scum”, “trash” and “peasants”….where I ended my comment by stating the bleeding obvious about the dangers of “unfettered immigration” that has diametrically changed this country……and not for the better.

    I stand by every word I wrote…..particularly those three “colourful” words….”scum”, “trash” and “peasants”

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    So now we have police in supermarkets….what a country.

  37. stackja

    Qantas, Jetstar suspend flights, 30,000 staff cut

    Georgia Clark
    Qantas and Jetstar have axed all international flights and laid off thousands of staff in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The airline announced on Thursday it will suspend all international flights from late March following the government’s official level four travel ban.

    There will also be a 60 per cent reduction in domestic flights.

    The news has also seen two-thirds of employees – around 30,000 people – temporarily stood down.

    The news comes after Virgin yesterday cancelling all international services.

  38. Struth

    The chi.nks as a culture can never be trusted.
    They are as racist as all hell and extremely materialistic.
    Saving face can best be described as ‘being the one to do over the other”

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Hey Barry.’
    ‘What?’

    ‘Didja send that email to whatshisname telling him it was cancelled?’
    ‘Ken oath I did.’

    ‘Good work mate. What time are we booking the strippers?’

  40. Arky

    calli
    #3363407, posted on March 19, 2020 at 8:42 am
    Struth is a virus denier.
    Arky is a virus influencer.
    The rest of us have no idea.

    And that, dear friends, is why I tune in

    ..
    I have no more idea than anyone else where this is going.
    In order to try to understand it, I try to put numbers into it.
    If it helps some people here seeing my struggle to put a handle on it, good.
    But the innumerate should direct there anger somewhere else.
    I did not shut anything down, and if I had my way the only thing shut down would have been flights from China in January.
    They did not do that, so now the political reality id burning the economy to the ground or facing an unknown health crisis.
    Stop blaming me a fucking deal with it you morons.
    I am not responsible for your business decisions, cash flow or the lack of action by the governments around the world in January.
    Decisions made because they believed numbers coming out of a regime that I and many others have warned about on here for the best part of a decade now.
    You are jyst going to have to deal with it as best you can. It’s shit and the chance of a depression at this point induced by their fucked up and way too late attempts to stop it scares the shit out of me more than the virus itself at this point.
    I’m done discussing this with Struth, Egg or anyone else who is systematically misrepresenting my views
    You already have my email if you want to talk about it face to face Struth.

  41. MatrixTransform

    So now we have police in supermarkets….what a country.

    newsflash: Security guard who overstepped authority found beaten by a Nanna wielding large jar of capers

  42. Struth

    Bugger.
    B Coy reunion in Adelaide cancelled.
    Very sad.
    For some, this is probably the last time they’ll be fit enough to get together.
    The 22nd April is the 50th anniversary of our big bunker contact.
    We took 1 KIA and 2 WIA during the incident, and another digger died of heat exhaustion the day after a company move overnight on foot to get to the AO.
    We were planning a church service and wreath laying to remember them.

    Chicoms still winning?

  43. Porter

    Australia is now Hotel California. You can check out but you can never leave.

  44. Cassie of Sydney

    Mater wins today….and I just need to repost…

    “We’re now living with it everyday. The fact of the matter is, that every local feels very self conscious when they even have one pack of TP in their basket, at the moment, for fear of diddling someone else or getting a reputation. Small towns are very self regulating like that. Every knows everyone else, and word gets around.

    These ‘visitors’ have no shame whatsoever. They hold an arm out and scrap everything into their basket, take it out to their trailers/buses and head back in for another go. They don’t give a shit about what other people think of them because they generally don’t give a shit about other people, full stop.

    Everything in this country was structured around a high trust society. If the loss of this trust keeps going, a fundamental reformation will be required, and I’m not in for where that will end up.

    You can keep your rationalisations and explanations. It’s not good, it’s not necessary (at that scale) and it’s not justified.”

    Sublime.

  45. Caveman

    I drove past one of the Chinese packaging places on the corner of Whitehorse Road and Station Street Box Hill yesterday the window was completely filled with parcels ready to go

    There are stacks of them there, all the joints with stickers covering the windows are packaging places.

  46. Top Ender

    Scott Morrison personally intervened to prevent almost 600 Catholic schools across NSW from closing in an early morning call to Sydney Archbishop Anthony Fisher seeking a guarantee the sector would pull back and keep school gates open.

    A letter obtained by The Australian from the chief executive of the NSW Association of Independent Schools, Geoff Newcombe, indicated that in a separate conversation with him, the Prime Minister linked federal government funding to his insistence schools remain open.

    Oz

  47. Porter

    I’m sure they will have the reunion without you Numbers, and Adelaide would certainly be better without your presence.

  48. mh

    A rapid test for coronavirus which could give a result in just 30 minutes for people at home, has been developed by Oxford University.

    The super sensitive test, which can picks up the virus in its very early stages when it might otherwise have been missed, could be rolled out to testing centres within a fortnight and could soon be available for home use.

    Previous viral RNA tests took 1.5 to 2 hours to give a result slowing down the ability to respond quickly to the crisis.

    The technology has been validated with clinical samples at Shenzhen Luohou People’s Hospital in China and has a 100 per cent success rate at picking up both positive and negative results.

    Prof Zhanfeng Cui, the Director of the Oxford Suzhou Centre for Advanced Research (OSCAR) said it would initially be used at medical centres but the team hoped people would eventually be allowed to test themselves at home….

  49. Helen

    There were police in my supermarket car park yesterday, trying to assist a lady who was tired and emotional and didn’t want to get up. You see an unintended consequence (but one that should have been anticipated) of closing communities to non essential travel is that – well ‘supplies’ can no longer get in, so many many people have come into town. I had noticed lots of cars around which is unusual as the locals tend to walk everywhere, then chatting with my truck driver at the fuel stop I found that the bar of Kirby was toe to toe with them. His wife works there.

    They have come to town for grog because they can no longer get it on community. Whereupon as most frail and vulnerable, they will contract it when it eventually gets to Katherine and take it back to community because they are on essential travel, that is ‘going home.’

  50. Tom

    Unless Lizzie and Hairy hot-foot it to LAX or DFW, they’ll be having an unscheduled two-month holiday in the USA. Details announced by Qantas in the past hour:

    Earlier this week, cuts to 90 per cent of international flying and about 60 per cent of domestic flying were announced by Qantas and Jetstar. With the Federal Government now recommending against all overseas travel from Australia, regularly scheduled international flights will continue until late March to assist with repatriation and will then be suspended until at least the end of May 2020. As the national carrier, Qantas is in ongoing discussions with the Federal Government about continuation of some strategic links.

    More than 150 aircraft will be temporarily grounded, including all of Qantas’ A380s, 747s and B787-9s and Jetstar’s B787-8s. Discussions are progressing with airports and government about parking for these aircraft.

    RTWT if your have friends or family OS.

  51. Porter

    As I said last night, Top Ender, that was an important move by Morrison and also by the Archbishop to keep the Catholic schools open because if they closed in a hysterical fit, that would have acted as a contagion and created further panic.
    I’m glad to hear that he also mentioned dollars. Good. No one is as sensitive to cash as the Catholic school system. I don’t want to bash Catholics but we all know that the majority of kids in Catholic schools are from families where one or both parents are only nominally Catholic and only pretend to be just to get their kids in ( although I recognise that some Catholic schools allocate a small percentage of places to non Catholics) and that bar a few outstanding educators, the Catholic system is infested with leftard teachers, and that the Catholic ecclesiastical hierarchy has been milking the taxpayer to train their teachers, their liturgists, and so on and so on.

  52. Arky

    A rapid test for coronavirus which could give a result in just 30 minutes for people at home, has been developed by Oxford University.

    ..
    The game changer in this will be around testing or treatments.
    Do that will be excellent if they can scale it up quickly.

  53. Struth

    Stop blaming me a fucking deal with it you morons.

    Don’t sook off playing the victim to deflect.

    We know u r tougher than that.
    No one is blaming you and you know it.
    we are discussing how you have come to the conclusions u have come to, so don’t take it personal .
    We’re not buying it

  54. NoFixedAddress

    its Arky’s fault

  55. Arky

    we are discussing how you have come to the conclusions u

    ..
    What conclusions are they?
    I haven’t concluded anything.
    The most I did was lay out a list of probabilities from mild to extreme.

  56. MatrixTransform

    The Dialectic Wars II

  57. NoFixedAddress

    Porter
    #3363462, posted on March 19, 2020 at 9:14 am

    As I said last night, Top Ender

    put the coffee down and back away from the keyboard Bird

  58. Old School Conservative

    Oil is $23.80 a barrel, folks.

    Now there’s a business opportunity for some smart entrepreneur.
    Work out how much petrol SHOULD be at the pump and sell the information via an app.
    Drivers could use the info to negotiate a price before filling up.
    If enough people had the information, petrol companies would bend to the demand for accurately priced petrol.

  59. dover_beach

    I drove past one of the Chinese packaging places on the corner of Whitehorse Road and Station Street Box Hill yesterday the window was completely filled with parcels ready to go.

    This really is disgusting stuff. Civitas has been severely degraded in this country by continuous immigration in the order of 250000K per year over the last 20 years or so. It cannot and must not continue.

  60. Does one think that Israel Folau might be indulging in schadenfreude over the gay leprechaun’s present battles?

  61. notafan

    Shorter Porter

    I want to bash the Catholic system.

    Fyi Catholics pay taxes too

  62. Sinclair Davidson

    Dover – did you get my email?

  63. dover_beach

    It was amusing listening to Tom Elliott yesterday arvo. In the space of five days he had moved from ‘this is just the flu’ to ‘omg, this is very serious indeed’.

  64. Struth

    There go my gigs.
    ..
    six fucking deaths

    ..
    How many deaths are required to make it worth you missing a gig?
    Genuine question, not a “think of the grannies”.
    Put an actual number on it, where you would go: Yeah, fair enough, I’ll do without the gig money for a few weeks?

  65. notafan

    Caveman

    No doubt re Box Hill.

    They tend to be secretive operations.
    Now people should connect the dots and know why so many Chinese ‘students’ were so eager to return.

    And Melbourne Uni gave them $7500 each .

  66. dover_beach

    Sinc – from last week? Yes, I did. Thank you. All sorted.

  67. Cassie of Sydney

    Oh yes….and apart from hearing anything from that fat race pimp….Tim Souphalfarse…has anyone heard anything from those two China arse lickers….Paul Keating and Bob Carr…you know the two slimes who have made lots of money from the Chinese over the last two decades? Anyone heard anything?

    Remember what arse licker Keating said….just last May….

    Mr Keating, who has been appointed to the international advisory council for the China Development Bank, warned Australia was putting at risk its relationship with its largest trading partner.

    “You know, China, whatever you think, China is a great state. It’s always been a great state and now has the second-largest economy, soon the largest economy in the world,” he said.

    “The nutters are in charge,” Mr Keating told the ABC after Labor’s launch on Sunday.

  68. Nelson Kidd-Players

    From Rita Panahi’s twitter feed:

    Instead of social distancing, we should be calling it “Kung Flu Flighting”.

  69. Arky

    I don’t see a prediction in the post Struth.
    And you never answered the question.

  70. notafan

    NFA

    Many giveaways

    Not bird

  71. struth

    So let’s take it from there.
    I then asked you why this wasn’t a consideration last year with contagious virus that lkilled 1163 Australians?
    Should we have shut down Australia last year?
    Why do our six deaths now have you contemplating the right thing to do?

  72. EvilElvis

    For a culture that supposedly relies on “Saving Face”, they certainly don’t mind being seen in a very negative light.

    Saving face only applies to their own people and then on a sliding scale through other Asian cultures. They couldn’t give a tuppenny fuck what round eyes think. They hate us.

  73. mh

    Does one think that Israel Folau might be indulging in schadenfreude over the gay leprechaun’s present battles?

    No. Playing professional sport in the UK and his wife Maria pregnant he won’t be thinking of Alan Joyce.

  74. lotocoti

    Imagine a government owned enterprise which manages stuff.
    Stuff which has been greatly reduced, because of reasons not unrelated to the obvious.
    Management floats the idea of rotating five day emergency lock-ins to keep stuff happening.
    Staff on $120k-$180k PA want to know if they’ll be paid the full rate for the 16 hours per day they’re not on shift, otherwise forgetaboutit.

  75. struth

    I’m using my phone Arky as laptop buttons u/s and big chunks of script get me moderated.

  76. Old School Conservative

    Adam
    #3363146, posted on March 19, 2020 at 12:45 am
    Article in The Oz says for oldies to keep away from the grandkids and avoid the virus.
    That’s right up the Boomers’ playbook so they won’t even have to adjust their behaviour.

    Bullshit.
    I know many Boomers whose retirement predominantly revolves around the grandkids.
    Good people who enjoy helping their (adult) kids and really love being with the grandchildren.
    Perhaps it’s a little selfish. Having busted a gut at work/home/raising a family for many years, to have the luxury of watching the next generations live, love, and flourish is a fine reward for the hard work of earlier years.
    Perhaps it’s a little maudlin. The end of a Boomer’s life is a lot closer than ever before and approaches rapidly. Being with grandchildren brings contentment of a life worth living.
    Whatever the reason, there are plenty of older Australians who don’t fit your “playbook” description.

    Signed, Boomer.

  77. Arky

    Should we have shut down Australia last year?

    ..
    Thos is what ai am talking about you fucking thick arse xunt.
    I never said shut it down did I?
    astop fucking lying about what I havecsaid you miserable shit

  78. notafan

    Makes sense EvilElvis.

  79. Mater

    This really is disgusting stuff. Civitas has been severely degraded in this country by continuous immigration in the order of 250000K per year over the last 20 years or so. It cannot and must not continue.

    Now, now, Dover.
    Don’t you know that, as a nation, “Diversity is our Strength!”.

  80. mh

    Whoopi Goldberg on Coronavirus: Mother Nature Did This to Us Not China

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/03/18/whoopi-goldberg/

  81. Infidel Tiger

    America Resurgent
    @ProgressOutlook
    ·
    28m
    Ohio unemployment claims at 78,000 so far this week. That’s almost double one of the worst weeks of the Great Recession.

    No way Trump can win on those numbers.

    It’s all over.

  82. Porter

    I want to bash the Catholic system.

    Fyi Catholics pay taxes too

    They certainly do notafan. The Catholic school system is not above criticism anymore than the public school system or other independent or private schools. You will note that both last night and today I said it was a good call that Archbishop Fisher stepped in and overrided the panic merchants. I have no doubt that many of the panic merchants were the typical leftist sops that infest the Catholic school system either as teachers or administrators or parents. In that they are not much different than anywhere else.

  83. mh

    Besides, Izzy already knows Alan Joyce is going to hell.

  84. Struth

    I never said shut it down did I?

    I never said u did.
    I’m putting a hypothetical back at u.

  85. NoFixedAddress

    notafan
    #3363489, posted on March 19, 2020 at 9:31 am

    NFA

    Many giveaways

    Not bird

    i understand but eerily similar

  86. shatterzzz

    Noticed in the BREENS cartoon .. greedy guy – white .. good boy .. coloured .. no matter how serious the situation some commentary stays the same

  87. Porter

    South of France, mh. Israel Folau’s club is in the south of France.

  88. This is becoming a bit of a saga.
    Five days accommodation refunded, but trying to get a credit (no refunds) from Virgin is currently impossible.
    No dice on-line (“this fare cannot be refunded – phone the call centre”).
    Call centres in the Philippines are closed down because virus.
    ???

    I’m sure they will have the reunion without you Numbers, and Adelaide would certainly be better without your presence.

    Actually they won’t.
    The whole thing is cancelled.
    The Association AGM was also scheduled as part of the deal.
    I’m not sure what’s happening to that.
    It would have been the only part of the proceedings I would have given a miss.
    AGM’s have to be the most boring rituals on the planet.

  89. Farmer Gez

    dover_beach
    #3363472, posted on March 19, 2020 at 9:20 am
    I drove past one of the Chinese packaging places on the corner of Whitehorse Road and Station Street Box Hill yesterday the window was completely filled with parcels ready to go.

    There’s probably nothing illegal about the business if all paperwork is filled out. I bet they aren’t paying enough or any tax though. Greedy people always need to fleece everyone.
    Like Al Capone – get the ATO on to them first.

  90. mh

    South of France, mh. Israel Folau’s club is in the south of France.

    Thanks Porter. Forgot that.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    It would have been the only part of the proceedings I would have given a miss.
    AGM’s have to be the most boring rituals on the planet.

    Decoded :-

    Last year I had barely started my submission to the AGM on conscription and Agent Orange, when the Chairman shut me down.

  92. Mater

    AGM’s have to be the most boring rituals on the planet.

    Actually, no.
    A distant second to your morning routine, here at the Cat.

  93. NFA

    Many giveaways

    Not bird

    Catallaxy is obsessed with its very own bogeyman.

    Childish….

  94. Sinclair Davidson

    Sinc – from last week? Yes, I did. Thank you. All sorted.

    yep – good stuff.

  95. Farmer Gez

    Leigh Lowe
    #3363518, posted on March 19, 2020 at 9:47 am
    It would have been the only part of the proceedings I would have given a miss.
    AGM’s have to be the most boring rituals on the planet.

    You know what they say Leigh:
    Open meetings attract closed minds.

  96. H B Bear

    Would anybody know if Mainland Tasmania was shut down?

  97. Cassie of Sydney

    “No way Trump can win on those numbers.

    It’s all over.”

    That was the plan all along.

  98. Huck

    Catallaxy is obsessed with its very own bogeyman.

    Childish….

    Being unable to finish a post without ellipses.
    Fuckwitish……….
    Oh Bob, before I forget. Do you have any more “facts” from un-attributed, open source, editable by anyone sources to prove China good-US bad this morning?
    Fuckwit.

  99. Goanna

    Invisible.
    Strategic.
    Fuel.
    Reserve.

    Yes KD. It’s worth repeating.

  100. Infidel Tiger

    So this is what a depression looks like.

    Meanwhile all the people with fake jobs don’t care.

    Fuck.

  101. Rex Mango

    Where is the High Court, the world wonders?

  102. dover_beach

    yep – good stuff.

    I did note that I did last week too but the OP is moving at lightening speed atm.

  103. Porter

    NFA, I know you didn’t like me pointing out how your behaviour was eerily similar to OWG when you go on your all night benders and Notafan, I know you have been a staunch defender of your Catholic faith here for many years and that you sometimes you take things too personally even when one is not referring directly to you and that you didn’t take too kindly to being called ‘abrasive’ by someone here ( not me I don’t find you abrasive, I know where you’re coming from) but I’m not Bird and I’m not Grigs or god knows whoever else I’m supposed to be. While I was posting here last night I was actually on the phone with a mate – one of those committed Catholics actually who sent his kids to Catholic Primary Schools but there was no way they were going to Catholic high schools – and we were talking about some of the rubbish that’s been posted online about recent events and I read him a couple of comments from this site from the page that was open at the time on my laptop as an example. He asked me what I was reading out and I told him it’s a blog called Catallaxy and it turned out that he was an occasional lurker here. We both commented on how there is also a lot of good information here ( mostly in the postsame), but that the comment threads were populated by individuals subject to general paranoia. So I apologise to you both for just demonstrating to him how paranoid.

  104. Tom

    In my opinion, Virgin Australia will not survive Kung Flu – mainly due to the disastrous reign of its former CEO John Borghetti.

    Borghetti was given the job by Richard Branson as a consolation for being overlooked for the top job at Qantas. Branson told himself he was so clever for hiring Borghetti to turn the smell-of-an oily-rag backpacker airline Virgin Blue into a high-cost imitation of Qantas, with all the bells and whistles like valet parking, frequent flyers and expensive airport lounges.

    It was supposed to underwrite a dramatic escalation in yield from corporates, but instead just made Virgin Australia chronically unprofitable.

    When Alan Joyce was finally allowed to start stripping costs out of Qantas from about 2010 (it should have been done straight after the collapse of Ansett in 2001, but was delayed a decade since Qantas had a monopoly on business travel until Borghetti went to Virgin), he slashed Qantas domestic unit costs to be roughly comparable with the bloated unit cost Borghetti introduced at VA.

    But VA never achieved the yields that would have justified its high costs. It hasn’t made money for years.
    Now international air travel in and out of Australia has been decimated by government decree. Even if Kung Flu is overcome in the next six months, it will take years for domestic and international travel to return to 2019 levels.

    VA is looking at at least six months of ZERO revenue and then has to re-establish itself from the ground up all over again. To survive, it would require tens of billions in a government bailout, which the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals can’t afford.

    If only the Libs actually believed in small government they’d have a war chest for such catastrophes. But since 2013 they have piled on the Big Government debt and spending.

    In any case, it’s time the Libs got out of the business of picking corporate winners, as it’s now doing subsidising the carpetbaggers destroying the national electricity grid.

  105. Rex Mango

    Speeking to barman last night, seems The Star Casino in Sydney exempt from the 100 man indoor law. Just like they were with the lockout laws too.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    China poisons the world, we all lose our livelihoods, loved ones, our kids lose their childhoods and we end up with Biden as POTUS – A China arse kissing, globalist.

    Hell of a year.

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    Where is the High Court, the world wonders?

    It’s a long lunch, this one.

  108. Cassie of Sydney

    “Rex Mango
    #3363539, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:07 am
    Speeking to barman last night, seems The Star Casino in Sydney exempt from the 100 man indoor law. Just like they were with the lockout laws too.”

    But of course.

  109. Huck

    Meanwhile all the people with fake jobs don’t care

    At my place of work (classified as an essential service), head office is all in a tizz. They’ve hoarded all of the hand sanitiser and anti-bac wipes, encouraged work from home where possible and decided all meetings must be done by video conferencing.
    Meanwhile those of us in the operations side are expected to continue on as normal- dealing with masses of the filthy public, sharing common facilities with 1000+ other operational staff with no means of disinfecting our workplace. Oh, they’ve also said gloves are not available, even for those handling money.
    To IT’s point, a huge percentage of jobs at head office are busywork roles, diversity and inclusion departments etc. These people have fake jobs, so much so that if head office was completely vacated (apart from payroll), there would be ZERO impact on the core element of our business.
    Yet it’s these same people who all of the mitigating efforts and resources have been put into.
    These people DO give a fuck. About themselves and their fellow trough dwellers only.

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Coronavirus crisis: Australian sex workers struggle amid COVID-19 spread
    Ulises IzquierdoAAP
    March 18, 2020 11:56AM
    Topics
    Australia

    Social distancing has created daunting challenges for Australia’s sex workers as they try to stay healthy amid the coronavirus spread.

    Panic buying also appears to include sex toys, with shoppers hoarding supplies for periods of self-isolation.

    Sex workers are experiencing decreased demand for services as the government steps up social distancing requirements, Australian sex workers association Scarlet Alliance claims.

    While it tries to help sex workers tackle coronavirus risks and follow health guidelines, the association is also highlighting their exposure to a fall in demand.

    “Sex workers are casual labour, and there’s much much less work for us, which will affect the most marginalised sex workers more and more quickly,“ spokeswoman Gala Vanting told AAP.

  111. H B Bear

    The best and only thing the Lieborals have ever done is tell Coca Cola/ SPC Ardmona to fuck off when looking for a bailout.

  112. Everything in this country was structured around a high trust society. If the loss of this trust keeps going, a fundamental reformation will be required, and I’m not in for where that will end up.

    Drop the ‘If’

    It is gunna be ugly.

    I wonder what the standard operating procedure of Viktoristani Blackshirts will be when they wish to avoid contact with the offender.

    “Drop the toilet roll and put your hands in the air.”

    “Bang”

  113. Porter

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #3363546, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:12 am

    Always an up side to every natural disaster.

  114. Rex Mango

    Meanwhile all the people with fake jobs don’t care

    This statement, sadly I feel to be true. All the pen pushing middle men of the public service completley safe, as others who took out loans to start a business, or work on contract go to wall.

  115. Diogenes

    Drivers could use the info to negotiate a price before filling up.
    If enough people had the information, petrol companies would bend to the demand for accurately priced petrol.

    Nup, Nanny state will prevent this. As I understand it in NSW a servo may only change its price once in any 24 hour period.

    Aussie prices are only marginally connected to the price of oil. Our prices should be the 7 day average Brent or TAPIS + @ 20c (‘normal’ refiner + wholesaler +retailer margin)

    Create an app that shows how big the tax take is on fuel and you may get calls for ropes & lampposts)

  116. Porter

    They told Qantas to fuck off as well HB Bear and within 6 months or something Qantas was posting a massive profit and has had enough cash reserves to ride the waves so far.

  117. H B Bear

    Huck – where I worked head office was responsible for collecting the cash that got everybody paid

    Good luck if they didn’t turn up.

  118. Tom

    See which domestic routes Qantas has suddenly axed or reduced here.

  119. Rex Mango

    First case reported in Fiji. Airline steward coming (phrasing) back from San Francisco.

  120. Porter

    I really don’t understand with the average public sector salary higher than the private sector salary – an extremely dangerous state of affairs – why they haven’t unilaterally cut or public sector salaries by 10 or 15% under emergency provisions. Shut down the ABC for a year. One billion can buy a lot of masks and hand sanitizer

  121. Cassie of Sydney

    “To IT’s point, a huge percentage of jobs at head office are busywork roles, diversity and inclusion departments etc. These people have fake jobs, so much so that if head office was completely vacated (apart from payroll), there would be ZERO impact on the core element of our business.
    Yet it’s these same people who all of the mitigating efforts and resources have been put into.
    These people DO give a fuck. About themselves and their fellow trough dwellers only.”

    Yep…I work for a large corporation…..and the good news is that over the ten days we haven’t received any of the usual diversity dross emails such as LGBTQRSTUVW awareness and all the other crap that these diversity and inclusion nonentities spend their time dreaming up.

  122. Davey Boy

    The government response (via local MP) to a query on the subject of Australians hoarding:

    “Information from supermarkets indicates that the current rate at which Australians of all backgrounds are purchasing goods is equivalent to feeding a population of 50 million.

    While there have been other pressures on some supply chains in recent years, such as to the baby formula supply chain, what we are experiencing currently is unprecedented and much further reaching. The supermarkets responded to previous supply chain pressures with product limits, and we are now seeing that on a much wider scale.

    The PM’s message is clear that there is no need for the current panic buying, and this message is important to ensure all Australians, no matter how vulnerable, are able to access the resources they need.”

    Wacko for Just In Time inventory management.
    Also, isn’t this the the scenario that Malcolm Turnbull wanted for us: Turnbull’s vision for Australia: ‘Disruption is our friend’

  123. 8th Dan

    Being unable to finish a post without ellipses

    Only 3 dots in ellipses.
    Just saying …

  124. lotocoti

    Do you have any more “facts” from un-attributed, open source, editable by anyone sources to prove China good-US bad this morning?

    Don’t underestimate how hard it is for gweilo to earn a Hero of the People’s Republic.

  125. Neil

    I really don’t understand with the average public sector salary higher than the private sector salary – an extremely dangerous state of affair

    I don’t think anybody in the Public Service should earn more than the Prime Minister. If they don’t like that they can work in the private sector

  126. EvilElvis

    With all this economy crashing stuff going on and taxpayers money getting thrown about I think I’ve missed the memo regarding public service cutbacks to help with the heavy lifting. Can someone enlighten me please? I’m sure I’ve just overlooked that part. It must be here somewhere..

  127. Leigh Lowe

    The last good and honourable chinaman was David Carradine.

  128. Porter

    Yep…I work for a large corporation…..and the good news is that over the ten days we haven’t received any of the usual diversity dross emails such as LGBTQRSTUVW awareness and all the other crap that these diversity and inclusion nonentities spend their time dreaming up.

    Every time there’s a downsize it’s these diversity HR type outfits that are usually the first to go. Irrelevant to core business. Sum contribution of zero to the bottom line. Perhaps even a nett negative. Here’s hoping.

  129. Comedy central – a draft dodger whose father bought him out of war service is implementing “wartime strategies” to “fight” a virus.

  130. Infidel Tiger

    This statement, sadly I feel to be true. All the pen pushing middle men of the public service completley safe, as others who took out loans to start a business, or work on contract go to wall.

    Public servants know the only way they can get fired is stealing and even then there are “processes”.

    Meanwhile small business is getting absolutely reamed right now. This is a dead set economic disaster that most people here won’t even be able fathom.

    Shelf stackers and delivery drivers are the only people with guaranteed jobs right now.

  131. Lilliana

    For a culture that supposedly relies on “Saving Face”, they certainly don’t mind being seen in a very negative light.

    Saving face only applies to their own people and then on a sliding scale through other Asian cultures. They couldn’t give a tuppenny fuck what round eyes think. They hate us.

    This is true. They invaders at my work have told me this. They are feeling more confident and now opening mock after our laws. They walk around town like they own the place and their shops don’t have have any English signage. They constantly flaunt traffic rules and when police arrive they suddenly speak no English. The police don’t do anything anyway in case they are seen as raaaaaacist. It’s the frog in hot water technique as they play the long game.

  132. H B Bear

    Coles and Woolworths show how easy it is to run a duopoly business in Australia.

    No time for screwing suppliers now.

  133. Leigh Lowe

    Shelf stackers and delivery drivers are the only people with guaranteed jobs right now.

    Delivery drivers who sell the supermarket logistics schedules to the Chicoms will be on clover.

  134. JC

    no, it’s not the bee.

    Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients

  135. 8th Dan

    a draft dodger whose father bought him out of war service is implementing “wartime strategies” to “fight” a virus

    Laughed like a drain when I saw that on the teev last night.

  136. MatrixTransform

    AGM’s have to be the most boring rituals on the planet

    correction: SECOND most boring ritual on the planet

    so your’e still a winner retard

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – Why is it strange that the commander in chief of all US armed services is implementing the law of the US which has been historically drafted for exactly such emergencies?

  138. Arky

    Coles advertised for 5000 new workers this week to cope with the load.
    They got 30 000 applications.

  139. Huck

    8th Dan
    #3363564, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:23 am
    Being unable to finish a post without ellipses

    Only 3 dots in ellipses.
    Just saying …

    From Wiki (see what I did there Bob?):
    An ellipsis (plural ellipses; from the Ancient Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, ‘omission’ or ‘falling short’) is a series of dots (typically three, such as “…”) that usually indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning.[
    My bold.
    Fuckwit.

  140. Porter

    Coles and Woolworths show how easy it is to run a duopoly business in Australia.

    Aldi, Costco and other such players broke up the duopoly a long time ago.

  141. Archivist

    Public servants know the only way they can get fired is stealing and even then there are “processes”.
    Meanwhile small business is getting absolutely reamed right now. This is a dead set economic disaster that most people here won’t even be able fathom.

    This is absolutely true.
    My only suggestion is that “most people here won’t even be able to fathom YET”.

  142. H B Bear

    Time to enlist Spuds.

  143. Archivist

    Numbers – Why is it strange that the commander in chief of all US armed services is implementing the law of the US which has been historically drafted for exactly such emergencies?

    actually numbers might be on to something.
    The deeper this crisis gets, the higher and sooner the chance of war (which we might refer to euphemistically as “war in East Asia”). But unlike numbers I don’t think America will instigate one.

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comedy central – a draft dodger whose father bought him out of war service is implementing “wartime strategies” to “fight” a virus.

    I’m sure the billionaire POTUS is utterly devastated at the opinion of a retired schoolteacher from outback Queensland.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just so that Numbers and Dan are fully informed I’ll mention this story from last week:

    Breaking: New York Gov. Cuomo Calls in National Guard, Orders ‘Containment Zone’ in City of New Rochelle Over Wuhan Virus (10 Mar)

    So if the Democrat Governor of New York is calling out the National Guard why should the President of the USA not treat the emergency in like manner?

  146. Rex Mango

    Can report that cousin of mine who had cushy high paying job doing all that HR diversity love each stuff, got told yesterday that all contracts for rest of the year were cancelled.

  147. mh

    “Sex workers are casual labour, and there’s much much less work for us, which will affect the most marginalised sex workers more and more quickly,“ spokeswoman Gala Vanting told AAP.

    So hookers haven’t put any money away for a rainy day?

  148. Porter

    Neil, the average public sector wage has always been lower than the average private sector wage and that was a trade-off for a job security. It is only in recent years and in particular under the regular ideas that the average public sector wage blew out significantly. When you couple that with the general blowout in actual number of public sector employees we are in a position where we have more pie eaters than pie makers. In a crisis such as this one which has severely impacted the pie makers this state of affairs is extremely dangerous. The public sector should be made to carry their cross. All of them including statutory authorities and parliamentarians right through to councils should be taking a hefty cut 2 salaries and associated bells and whistles. If Morrison was smart he would play it like a Lefty and never let a good crisis go to waste.

  149. JC

    Saying this is wrong on so many levels.

    Merkel Urges Unity in Biggest Challenge Since World War II

  150. Porter

    Regular ideas is my spell check version of Rudd-Gillard years.

  151. Infidel Tiger

    Laughed like a drain when I saw that on the teev last night.

    You’re more of a sewer pipe, you faeces gargling xunt.

  152. Caveman

    All non essential travellers heading to Tassie will be quarantined for 14 days.

  153. 8th Dan

    Huckwit

    How Many Dots?

    How many dots are in an ellipsis? The answer is three. But, if the ellipsis comes immediately after a grammatically complete sentence, that sentence still needs its own period. So you would end up with a period, plus an ellipsis, which looks like four periods in a row. For instance:

    “Call me Jonah. My parents did, or nearly did. They called me John.”
    might be shortened to:

    “Call me Jonah. . . . They called me John.”

  154. Bruce of Newcastle

    Meanwhile small business is getting absolutely reamed right now. This is a dead set economic disaster that most people here won’t even be able fathom.

    Yep. When the GFC hit the phone stopped ringing for about 9 months. Then just as the customers were coming out of their shells Rudd announced the first version mining tax and the phone stopped ringing again for another 9 months. The psychology was interesting, and fortunately I didn’t actually need the work.

  155. Geriatric Mayfly

    The safest place on the planet from Sunday, will be Latitude 90 South. No corona for the next 6 months.

  156. Roger

    Everything in this country was structured around a high trust society.

    And our politicians fooloshly subverted it with two policies:

    Mass immigration from alien cultures & multikulti.

  157. MatrixTransform

    8th Dan is the embodiment of Tourettes with a theme

  158. Infidel Tiger

    Saying this is wrong on so many levels.

    Merkel Urges Unity in Biggest Challenge Since World War II

    Oh my God!

  159. Diogenes

    Colleague just made a valid point, if we have to keep schools open, so we can “babysit the children of essential workers” (paraphrasing our “beloved” PM – which then begs the question of “what about OUR kids and loved ones you scum sucking bottom feeding arsehole”)) – why is there no talk of postponing school holidays due to start in Vic next week and Qld the week after that.

  160. EvilElvis

    Coles and Woolworths show how easy it is to run a duopoly business in Australia.

    Aldi, Costco and other such players broke up the duopoly a long time ago.

    Maybe in the big smoke. Woolies/Coles, Libs/Labor. Aldi/Costco, minority parties. There’s something in that for all of us. I think?

  161. Cassie of Sydney

    “You’re more of a sewer pipe, you faeces gargling xunt.”

    He’s not called 8th Toilet Block for nothing.

  162. Barry

    In 2018 there were 81196 deaths from all causes in people over 80. That’s 222 per day.

    If the Coronavirus test is has a specificity of 95% (as frequently quoted) and >100 people were tested, it’s entirely possible that those who died, did not have CoronaVirus, but another disease.

    Alternatively they may have died because they were one of the 222 per day, and died with the disease rather than from it.

  163. Archivist

    Neil, the average public sector wage has always been lower than the average private sector wage and that was a trade-off for a job security. It is only in recent years and in particular under the regular ideas that the average public sector wage blew out significantly. When you couple that with the general blowout in actual number of public sector employees we are in a position where we have more pie eaters than pie makers. In a crisis such as this one which has severely impacted the pie makers this state of affairs is extremely dangerous. The public sector should be made to carry their cross. All of them including statutory authorities and parliamentarians right through to councils should be taking a hefty cut 2 salaries and associated bells and whistles. If Morrison was smart he would play it like a Lefty and never let a good crisis go to waste.

    A good idea. The votes lost by slashing public sector bureaucrat salaries would be negligible.
    The votes gained (or perhaps, vote bleeding staunched) by reducing the budget blowout would be non-negligible.

  164. mh

    Merkel Urges Unity in Biggest Challenge Since World War II

    😆

  165. Infidel Tiger

    I mentioned that last night. It will all be perfectly legal, of course.

    Also lockups. Full of tucker and necessities waiting for shortages to become a black market. Noice little earner

    There’s plenty of quality Australian history that will aid us in how to deal with ChiCom grifters doing the wrong thing. Won’t be long until the beatings start.

  166. Barry

    There is one (dubious) benefit of high public sector wages x high number of public servants – it provides a stabilising factor – it’s hard to generate price inflation or deflation when a sizeable proportion of the economy is basically running fixed price, fixed volume.

    I say dubious, because recovery depends on rapid adjustment of the unemployment / wage dynamic to meet the prevailing situation. So the economy takes a much longer time to right itself, even though it probably experienced less of a downturn. All up, a significant negative and a drag on our standard of living.

  167. calli

    Merkel’s Biggest Challenge Since WWII will be to avoid the pikes.

  168. notafan

    Really Porter

    Because indi and public are so much better.

    Your anecdotes are anecdotes and you clearly have an agenda introducing Catholic schools wishing to go online into the debate.

    Cut their funding!

    I could post hair raising tales about public schools and one particular top of the tree private as well.

    But I won’t because meaningless.

    The last of mine finished up at Catholic school about five six years ago, and nephew finished up last year so I say meh to your horror stories

  169. Rex Mango

    Numbers, is this Australia’s biggest challenge since a certain war in South East Asia?

  170. Cassie of Sydney

    “Won’t be long until the beatings start.”

    No thank you. I don’t believe in collective guilt. And I won’t be beating up anyone….and how long before the mob direct their animus towards others….such as my lot?

  171. Why is it strange that the commander in chief of all US armed services is implementing the law of the US which has been historically drafted for exactly such emergencies?

    That’s not strange.
    However, beyond strange – in fact sickening – is that excuse for a POTUS making a big fella of himself using military metaphor.
    He ran a mile..
    To quote him – “You think I’m stupid, I wasn’t going to Vietnam.”

  172. Roger

    A moonbeam from the larger lunacy:

    The first stage of the NSW government’s plan for ‘Ground Zero’…sorry, that’s ‘Net Zero’ has been released , covering 2020-2030. The government says it will create 2400 jobs (!) (how many jobs will be lost because of it?), attract over $11.6 billion in investment* and save households $40 p.a. (!) on their electricity bills.

    * Attracted by subsidies, paid for by the tax payer. That $40? Say goodbye to it and more.

    Coming soon to your state.

    We need a political revolution.

  173. Arky

    No thank you. I don’t believe in collective guilt. And I won’t be beating up anyone….and how long before the mob direct their animus towards others….such as my lot?

    .
    Yep.
    Good post.

  174. Boris

    The Russia-Saudi ‘price war’ is aimed squarely at the US shale oil industry.

    That is old news.

    The aim of the game is to force US unconventional producers out of the market on a permanent/long-term basis – and effectively have the US provide the 3-4 million bbl/day production cut Russia and Saudi desperately need to get the oil price up to US$80+ and prop up their creaking economies.

    But it won’t work. It didn’t work last time, when saudis did this for a couple of years. They caused a series of bankruptcies but as soon they ended this, the industry rebounded, and since then went from strength to strength. Shale oil wells can be closed and open at will.

    Also Sauds started giving big discounts to major importers of Russian oil, suggesting they are outraged by Russian insults. Saudi’s are not stupid, they know russia only pretended to limit production, but they won’t tolerate open insults.

    The lower the price goes the quicker it should rebound.

  175. mh

    Numbers, you appear bitter about something.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Merkel’s Biggest Challenge Since WWII will be to avoid the pikes.

    Yes. She was probably the biggest opponent to the EU closing borders. But finally 2 days ago she gave in and closed Germany’s borders.

    Lefties are getting hit with a cluebat (and I regard Mamma Merkel as a lefty). Borders are compartmentalization against ingress of toxic agents be they nasty political or religious ideas, or invading viruses. And globalization makes you a slave to countries like China, Russia and Saudi Arabia. It’ll be interesting to see what the voters think after all this dies down.

  177. The Beer Whisperer

    I did not shut anything down, and if I had my way the only thing shut down would have been flights from China in January.
    They did not do that, so now the political reality id burning the economy to the ground or facing an unknown health crisis.
    Stop blaming me a fucking deal with it you morons.
    I am not responsible for your business decisions, cash flow or the lack of action by the governments around the world in January.
    Decisions made because they believed numbers coming out of a regime that I and many others have warned about on here for the best part of a decade now.
    You are jyst going to have to deal with it as best you can. It’s shit and the chance of a depression at this point induced by their fucked up and way too late attempts to stop it scares the shit out of me more than the virus itself at this point.

    You’ve been even more cranky than usual lately, Arky, but this I like.

    How abysmal of the leftists to call racism at the suggestion of stopping flights, only to scream that everything must be shut down, including flights, AFTER the virus is in our community.

    Now the crunts are posting tales of woe about coronavirus to show that they, and only they, care about people.

    And these are the same people that want us to die horribly at the hands of coronavirus. odious individuals, through and through.

  178. Huck

    So Septimus, what you’re saying is that Wiki doesn’t always get the facts right.
    Excellent. Please pass this on to your bedfellow, Sideshow Bob.

  179. Infidel Tiger

    No thank you. I don’t believe in collective guilt. And I won’t be beating up anyone….and how long before the mob direct their animus towards others….such as my lot?

    If any group is found hording products in order to cash in on the black market they will be beaten. We won’t discriminate

    I’ll happily kick the shit out of a Pom, Chinaman or Dhu who does the wrong thing. And if I can find an Anglo-Sino-Dhu hordinh stuff I’ll kick the shit out of her and collect the Trifecta.

  180. Eddystone

    I was fortunate enough to get a letter published in The Australian today.

    Janet Albrechtsen bells the cat (ha ha!) on regulation of business. The dead hand of the state can cause real hardship. These hard times are more likely due to the government’s response to corona, rather than the virus itself.

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    However, beyond strange – in fact sickening – is that excuse for a POTUS making a big fella of himself using military metaphor.

    You shouldn’t talk about Bill Clinton like that Numbers.

  182. OldOzzie

    Old School Conservative
    #3363497, posted on March 19, 2020 at 9:33 am

    Bullshit.

    I know many Boomers whose retirement predominantly revolves around the grandkids.
    Good people who enjoy helping their (adult) kids and really love being with the grandchildren.
    Perhaps it’s a little selfish. Having busted a gut at work/home/raising a family for many years, to have the luxury of watching the next generations live, love, and flourish is a fine reward for the hard work of earlier years.

    Perhaps it’s a little maudlin. The end of a Boomer’s life is a lot closer than ever before and approaches rapidly. Being with grandchildren brings contentment of a life worth living.

    Whatever the reason, there are plenty of older Australians who don’t fit your “playbook” description.

    Signed, Boomer.

    OCO,
    +1

    as a 3 generation Household, my youngest daughter and her husband are worried about Nonna and I being infected – we are hoping for closure of Catholic schools and for her husband to find out if he has to take leave, so we can join my son, daughter-in-law and Grandkids 1/3/5 (who are out of school and home schooling) down in Ski House, which is fully prepped, as they leave for Ski House tomorrow and we hope to join them soon

    Love being with Grandkids, but aim to minimize risks for them and ourselves.

    I am tidying up all affairs here in Sydney, and hoping to hear re Immunotherapy Trial to allow planning for future

  183. Snoopy

    Bullshit.
    I know many Boomers whose retirement predominantly revolves around the grandkids.
    Good people who enjoy helping their (adult) kids and really love being with the grandchildren.
    Perhaps it’s a little selfish. Having busted a gut at work/home/raising a family for many years, to have the luxury of watching the next generations live, love, and flourish is a fine reward for the hard work of earlier years.
    Perhaps it’s a little maudlin. The end of a Boomer’s life is a lot closer than ever before and approaches rapidly. Being with grandchildren brings contentment of a life worth living.
    Whatever the reason, there are plenty of older Australians who don’t fit your “playbook” description.

    Well said, Old School Conservative #3363497, posted on March 19, 2020 at 9:33 am.

    Much more elegant than the simple “Get fcuked, Adam.” I was tempted to post last night.

  184. Bar Beach Swimmer

    For a culture that supposedly relies on “Saving Face”, they certainly don’t mind being seen in a very negative light.

    Winston, that “Saving Face” thingey is when they’re put at an obvious disadvantage in front of others. Up until now they’ve been singing from Liberace’s song book of ‘…laughing all the way to the bank!’.

    The photo posted on Twitter – the one that Mater posted – is the “being shown at a disadvantage”.

    As more photos emerge on line, get ready for claims of “Sinophobia”! Now, however, when basic supplies are scare, no-one cares about the Twitterarti meltdown and the outraged Left. Hell, we’re all outraged now.

    Last thought: for the foreseeable, their business model is broken and with no income, will we see a sudden emigration back home?

  185. Neil

    It is only in recent years and in particular under the regular ideas that the average public sector wage blew out significantly

    Costello got rid of the Defined Benefit Scheme for Public Servants Super but they still get 15.4% which is higher than the rest of the population

  186. DHS

    Decisions made because they believed numbers coming out of a regime that I and many others have warned about on here for the best part of a decade now.
    You are jyst going to have to deal with it as best you can. It’s shit and the chance of a depression at this point induced by their fucked up and way too late attempts to stop it scares the shit out of me more than the virus itself at this point.

    Talk about passing the buck. If you are going to tell people they have to act now or they’ll die you can’t turn around and say “oh well they acted out of panic but I wanted them to be all orderly and stuff – it’s not my fault”.

    Why should we believe you when you say that you would have stopped at just shutting down flights? What if the virus still came anyway? It seems odd that you would have just said “oh well we tried it and it didn’t work so let’s just give up”.

  187. Roger

    I noted yesterday that a shop keeper has a right to refuse service and to reserve products for locals, especially in times of shortage:

    Gisborne supermarket (50kms from Melbourne) hires bouncers to keep out “shelf raiders”.

  188. They hold an arm out and scrap everything into their basket, take it out to their trailers/buses and head back in for another go.

    That is not far removed from looting.

    Treat them the same as looters.

  189. Infidel Tiger

    The year is 2020.

    Coles has police in the toilet paper aisle.

  190. Numbers, you appear bitter about something.

    Not bitter.
    Just amazed at how a minority of Septics actually voted for this dickhead.
    It’s a very strange country.

  191. MatrixTransform

    Just amazed at how a minority of Septics actually voted for this dickhead.

    …like a new born baby everyday

  192. areff

    I noted yesterday that a shop keeper has a right to refuse service

    only to heterosexuals

  193. Roger

    Just amazed at how a minority of Septics actually voted for this dickhead.

    He promised an end to military excursions abroad, to bring jobs back home to middle America and to secure the border.

    Compared with a Democratic candidate whose record on foreign policy was disastrous, who had nothjing but disdain for middle America (deplorables!) and who told coal miners – with a smile – she was going to put them out of a job.

    I’d say those who voted for Trump made a rational decision.

    What is amazing is that so many voted for Hillary.

  194. get ready for claims of “Sinophobia”

    Vicks Sinex™ Decongestant ought to fix that.

  195. lotocoti

    I’m surprised our friend hasn’t volunteered.
    He’s done it before.

  196. EvilElvis

    And if I can find an Anglo-Sino-Dhu hordinh stuff I’ll kick the shit out of her and collect the Trifecta.

    I’d like to play. Let me know when the first run of ‘TP Beatings Bingo’ cards arrives from China, IT.

  197. Cassie of Sydney

    “As more photos emerge on line, get ready for claims of “Sinophobia”! Now, however, when basic supplies are scare, no-one cares about the Twitterarti meltdown and the outraged Left. Hell, we’re all outraged now.”

    Yep…well said BBS. There is a silver lining to most things.

    I am about to go up to my local IGA to see what is on offer……..there was probably more on offer in a supermarket in East Berlin in March 1982.

  198. Infidel Tiger

    Laura Ingraham
    @IngrahamAngle

    All immigration to the US should be halted due to this national emergency—we sure as heck don’t need any foreign workers with millions of Americans on verge of losing their jobs. #AmericaFirst

    ScoMo, you reading this big fella?

    Letting a single immigrant in right now is treason.

  199. 8th Dan

    Pale Orange Man is looking quite blanched these days.
    His mishandling of the COVID-19 crisis will hand the Presidency to Biden next November.

  200. twostix

    The year is 2020.

    Coles has police in the toilet paper aisle.

    It’s the peak of liberal global free-trade “capitalism”.

    Looks much the same as marxism though??

  201. Cassie of Sydney

    Just posted this on The Australia…rejected…

    The joys of globalisation
    The joys of excessive immigration
    The joys of multiculturalism

    Except there is nothing to be joyful about..is there?

  202. ScoMo, you reading this big fella?

    Letting a single immigrant in right now is treason.

    Indeed.

  203. EvilElvis

    Coles has police in the toilet paper aisle.

    The PTP (Poo Ticket Police) are a little known and long dormant special ops group primarily made up of failed council rangers and parking inspectors. ‘Shit first, asks questions later’ is the mantra they live by. Provoke them at your peril.

  204. Bar Beach Swimmer

    One other thing about the daigou: if they can’t source in a timely manner the products that their customers in mainland China want, that’s where they will “Lose Face”. No products: no customers.

  205. cohenite

    One hopes the 2 trolls die soon.

    This virus and more importantly the consequent hysteria and every world catastrophe have all been caused by the left.

    A leftie is a person who makes a problem worse and if there is not a problem creates one. And while doing so demands respect, power and money because they are superior.

    If an alien race with a perverse sense of humour wanted to fuck humanity up they would have created the genetic code which produces a leftie mentality.

  206. MB:

    Like what Switzerland did, inspired as they were by the Americans.

    Arky:

    No.
    They were inspired by cheese.

    What flavour?

  207. areff

    On the subject of Twitter, it seems to be down — haven’t been able to get on and learn what currents are swirling in the cesspit

  208. Geriatric Mayfly

    They weren’t too popular on the diggings. Now they’re sifting through the regional supermarkets looking for more gold.

  209. Roger

    Letting a single immigrant in right now is treason.

    Our migration program has been a betrayal of Australia for many years now.

    But yes, let’s see what happens when the economy starts to seriously contract.

    The government must already be anticipating that and planning for it, but they must listen to Australians and not perfidious public service mandarins whose commitment is not to this country but to globalisation.

  210. Mother Lode

    I got some bread.

    I shall buy some champers this evening to celebrate.

  211. Farmer Gez

    Get your meat if you can at current prices because once stock is sold BIG rises are on the way.

    2kg mince $73 at Bendigo.

    Those lentils I said I was holding in anticipation of a rise once India was locked down, are up $80 per tonne in two days. Demand is up and the dollar is way down.

  212. EvilElvis

    Brilliant, Calli. “You buy! You buy now round eye! IT Pakapoo lucky big you!”

  213. Cassie of Sydney

    “The government must already be anticipating that and planning for it, but they must listen to Australians and not perfidious public service mandarins whose commitment is not to this country but to globalisation.”

    Except they won’t.

  214. Des Deskperson

    ‘The government must already be anticipating that and planning for it, but they must listen to Australians and not perfidious public service mandarins whose commitment is not to this country but to globalisation.’

    For the last two decades at least, any ‘perfidious public service mandarin’ who ignored or failed to do what the government of the day wanted would have been – and has been – sacked.

  215. Herodotus

    We knew globalisation and multiculti-ponzi migration were bad ideas.
    Now we have busloads of ethnics “looting” shops.

  216. One of my offspring (with residency rights in the USA) made a dash for the US last week.
    Reckons he would rather be in the US for a crisis than a “Land of TP plunder”.

    And he said, “I come from a land down under
    Where food is scarce and men blunder”
    Don’t you fear, don’t you fear the plunder?
    You better run, you better take cover”, yeah

    h/t men at work

  217. Tom

    His mishandling of the COVID-19 crisis will hand the Presidency to Biden next November.

    Laughed out loud, Googleory. All those decades as a public service parasite have made you an astute observer of the real world.

    Replaying the idiocies of our trolls is going to be such fun in November.

  218. Infidel Tiger

    Our migration program has been a betrayal of Australia for many years now.

    But yes, let’s see what happens when the economy starts to seriously contract.

    The government must already be anticipating that and planning for it, but they must listen to Australians and not perfidious public service mandarins whose commitment is not to this country but to globalisation.

    You and I both know the UniParty is going to do the opposite. Immigration will be ramped up to create fake GDP numbers.

  219. zyconoclast

    Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients

    “For those of you who want to continue to shoot and kill people of this city, we’re not going to tolerate it,” Young implored. “We’re going to come after you and we’re going to get you.”

    He urged people to put down their guns because “we cannot clog up our hospitals and their beds with people that are being shot senselessly because we’re going to need those beds for people infected with the coronavirus. And it could be your mother, your grandmother or one of your relatives. So take that into consideration.”

  220. Infidel Tiger

    New idea to add to my list for recovery:

    All excise removed on alcohol.

    Let’s get hospitality pumping.

  221. rickw

    Vic Government efficiency in a time of crisis:

    Permit to acquire No.1 Mk.III processed in 2 days!!!

    Clearly no one in Vic Gov has any idea about the volume of Gun and Ammo purchasing that has been going on! Happily!!

    I can only imagine how demanding it’s been for the burgeoning Victorian firearm Black Market….. if the legitimate businesses have been run off their feet…

  222. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Phew! More computer problems requiring Professor Hairy to fix for me. Computer still trying to log into our home network. Anyway, cache cleared and fixed now. We are in an airport hotel in Miami again, this one with a less fierce aircon which was a nuisance in the last one. Tomorrow we fly to New Orleans and one of my cousins will met us and whisk us off to relative safety for three days. Then we fly to LAX and take the Qantas flight on Monday nite to Australia and 14 days of stay-at-home life.

    These are extraordinary times. Today we drove in our hire car out of Key West, the further-most southerly point in America and down to Miami Beach. Key West closed down completely last night. Our boutique hotel of ten rooms was full, and as we checked late this morning out our trendy wooden-tagged key was placed in a solemn line on the table with nine others. Everyone was packing up, cancelling and heading home. We shared a Subway Footlong last night as we didn’t find anything else open or answering calls. We had wine and beer, and a muesli bar for dessert, so we ‘did fine’, as they say here along the Southern Dixie freeway to this end-of-the-world place full of Democrat Trump Haters. Although founded on the mercantile idea of enterprise, our Queen Anne-style hotel originally being that of a cigar baron who made his money out of rolling Cuban leaf, Key West has become a haunt of the trendy middle class celebrating anniversaries and another set, hordes composed of rich young Gramsci-educated party goers. We drove through the town admiring the many large mansions that came from these boom times from the 1820’s to the time of the Great War in 1914, after which the cigar business fell off a bit, replaced by the new trend for cigarette. O tempora, O mores. Reminds me somewhat of interviewing an old man in the 1960’s for my university project, a denizen of Sydney’s old waterside inner-city; occupation: pianola mechanic. Business, he said to me sadly in a memorable sentence I’ve never forgotten, fell of a bit when the wireless came in.

    As we drove back along the various keys with their up to seven mile long causeways connecting those islands, we decided to check out the possibility of staying for our last nite in Miami Beach, and enjoying the Art Deco ambience there, which was certainly magnificent. We drove down into the middle of it, and right into Partytime. Young people everywhere, partying like no tomorrow under an 11pm curfew. Many of them ethnic blacks and Mexicans and various hippie-style trendoids, who had just had their bars and clubs closed on them completely day and night and who were moving Partytime to the streets and the beach. A hoon riding a bike on one wheel wove in amongst the riotous activity and nearly brought it down on our car’s ‘hood’. Cops everywhere, drug dealers in their flash Mustangs everywhere (Hairy’s gone off having one now), and I say to Hairy no, get me outta here now, I am not staying here. He agreed, unsafe atmosphere and loads of virus incubators around. We went to a sedate Best Western near the airport where I type this at last, having thoroughly disinfected the room as is my wont in these times. Man in the garage said there is a tradition in Miami of partying on the beach before a hurricane hits. That’s whats happening on the beach now, helping the virus along mightily, says the garage man correctly.

    We just heard that Qantas and Virgin have both noted 31st March as the last plane into Australia.

  223. rickw

    But yes, let’s see what happens when the economy starts to seriously contract.

    We’re in prime position to handle the pending spike in demand for qualified goat herders.

  224. Makka

    100% Rog.

    Betrayed for 2 decades at least. But so many Australians are still not a wake up. Fucking lemmings too many are ,or hooked on Govt handouts. Media and Business complicit of course to fk us over.

    Gangs reselling goods headlines while Customs rush through many tons of baby powder for export daily so our mothers can scrounge around bare shelves in legit panic for the odd tin.

    You bet we are being betrayed.

  225. Porter

    AFP to prosecute shelf strippers

    As police go in to patrol supermarkets, Peter Dutton suggests some people stripping shelves are linked to criminal enterprises.

    Dutton, fearless as always, with the truth.

  226. Bruce of Newcastle

    I must somehow be empathic for the poor wukkas caught in this mess, I must:

    Qantas, Jetstar to stand down 20,000 workers due to coronavirus, Alan Joyce says national carrier’s future is at stake

    Mr Joyce you should’ve thought about this before alienating half the country with your woke crusade.

    ScoMo should tell him to politely get nicked. Those air routes are golden roads, they will be picked up by someone, and the staff will too. Hopefully by airlines who avoid taking political positions.

  227. zyconoclast

    General Motors, Ford and Fiat Chrysler to temporarily close all US factories due to the coronavirus

    The companies bowed to pressure from union leaders and employees who called for protection from the pandemic…

    Honda North America announced on Wednesday that it will be closing four U.S.-based plants

    BMW to suspend output at Europe, South Africa plants

  228. Bruce O’Newk:

    WTI is now just over $22/bbl. I wonder what that will do to the oily MENA regimes?

    If ever there was a time to build up our strategic reserves of fuel, it’s now.
    But, unless we park a couple of dozen double hulled aging tankers into a bay somewhere to store it in, it’s another opportunity we’ll miss.
    Or line half a dozen quarry/mine sites and fill them up.
    Or tell all the servos to fill their unused tanks while we build lots of storage for it.
    Shit, it’s raining soup and Australia is buying umbrellas.

  229. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Phew! More computer problems requiring Professor Hairy to fix for me. Computer still trying to log into our home network. Anyway, cache cleared and fixed now. We are in an airport hotel in Miami again, this one with a less fierce aircon which was a nuisance in the last one. Tomorrow we fly to New Orleans and one of my cousins will met us and whisk us off to relative safety for three days. Then we fly to LAX and take the Qantas flight on Monday nite to Australia and 14 days of stay-at-home life.

    These are extraordinary times. Today we drove in our hire car out of Key West, the further-most southerly point in America and down to Miami Beach. Key West closed down completely last night. Our boutique hotel of ten rooms was full, and as we checked late this morning out our trendy wooden-tagged key was placed in a solemn line on the table with nine others. Everyone was packing up, cancelling and heading home. We shared a Subway Footlong last night as we didn’t find anything else open or answering calls. We had wine and beer, and a muesli bar for dessert, so we ‘did fine’, as they say here along the Southern Dixie freeway to this end-of-the-world place full of Democrat Trump Haters. Although founded on the mercantile idea of enterprise, our Queen Anne-style hotel originally being that of a cigar baron who made his money out of rolling Cuban leaf, Key West has become a haunt of the trendy middle class celebrating anniversaries and another set, hordes composed of rich young Gramsci-educated party goers. We drove through the town admiring the many large mansions that came from these boom times from the 1820’s to the time of the Great War in 1914, after which the cigar business fell off a bit, replaced by the new trend for cigarette. O tempora, O mores. Reminds me somewhat of interviewing an old man in the 1960’s for my university project, a denizen of Sydney’s old waterside inner-city; occupation: pianola mechanic. Business, he said to me sadly in a memorable sentence I’ve never forgotten, fell of a bit when the wireless came in.

    As we drove back along the various keys with their up to seven mile long causeways connecting those islands, we decided to check out the possibility of staying for our last nite in Miami Beach, and enjoying the Art Deco ambience there, which was certainly magnificent. We drove down into the middle of it, and right into Partytime. Young people everywhere, partying like no tomorrow. Many of them ethnic blacks and Mexicans and various hippie-style trendoids, who had just had their bars and clubs closed on them and who were moving Partytime to the streets and the beach. A hoon riding a bike on one wheel wove in amongst the riotous activity and nearly brought it down on our car’s ‘hood’. Cops everywhere, drug dealers in their flash Mustangs everywhere (Hairy’s gone off having one now), and I say to Hairy no, get me outta here now, I am not staying here. He agreed, unsafe atmosphere and loads of virus incubators around. We went to a sedate Best Western near the airport where I type this at last, having thoroughly disinfected the room as is my wont in these times. Man in the garage said there is a tradition in Miami of partying on the beach before a hurricane hits. That’s whats happening on the beach now, helping the virus along mightily, says the garage man correctly.

    We just heard that Qantas and Virgin are running their last planes to Australia by 31st March.

  230. Leigh Lowe

    If any group is found hording products in order to cash in on the black market they will be beaten. We won’t discriminate

    If I sell an AFL Grand Final ticket for double face value I am in deep shit legally.
    But will it be a crime to sell a roll of toilet paper or a bag of flour for $50?

  231. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Phew! More computer problems requiring Professor Hairy to fix for me. Computer still trying to log into our home network. Anyway, cache cleared and fixed now. We are in an airport hotel in Miami again, this one with a less fierce aircon which was a nuisance in the last one. Tomorrow we fly to New Orleans and one of my cousins will met us and whisk us off to relative safety for three days. Then we fly to LAX and take the Qantas flight on Monday nite to Australia and 14 days of stay-at-home life.

  232. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am posting paragraphs as a whole chunk goes into moderation.

    These are extraordinary times. Today we drove in our hire car out of Key West, the further-most southerly point in America and down to Miami Beach. Key West closed down completely last night. Our boutique hotel of ten rooms was full, and as we checked late this morning out our trendy wooden-tagged key was placed in a solemn line on the table with nine others. Everyone was packing up, cancelling and heading home. We shared a Subway Footlong last night as we didn’t find anything else open or answering calls. We had wine and beer, and a muesli bar for dessert, so we ‘did fine’, as they say here along the Southern Dixie freeway to this end-of-the-world place full of Democrat Trump Haters. Although founded on the mercantile idea of enterprise, our Queen Anne-style hotel originally being that of a cigar baron who made his money out of rolling Cuban leaf, Key West has become a haunt of the trendy middle class celebrating anniversaries and another set, hordes composed of rich young Gramsci-educated party goers. We drove through the town admiring the many large mansions that came from these boom times from the 1820’s to the time of the Great War in 1914, after which the cigar business fell off a bit, replaced by the new trend for cigarette. O tempora, O mores. Reminds me somewhat of interviewing an old man in the 1960’s for my university project, a denizen of Sydney’s old waterside inner-city; occupation: pianola mechanic. Business, he said to me sadly in a memorable sentence I’ve never forgotten, fell of a bit when the wireless came in.

  233. Farmer Gez

    Mr Magic Bronson. You have absolutely no idea what your talking about.
    The beef herd is at near record low levels. Cattle at record numbers were killed off as the farmers ran out of feed and only kept the prime breeders. It will take years to build up again.
    Sheep are a far quicker turn around due to high fertility but there’s no chance it will turn around in a year.

  234. Infidel Tiger

    “Get your meat if you can at current prices because once stock is sold BIG rises are on the way.”

    What bullshit.

    All our export markets are closed.

    Should be coming down in price. If farmers are going to gouge us, we’ll beat fuck outta them too.

  235. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    These are extraordinary times. Today we drove in our hire car out of Key West, the further-most southerly point in America and down to Miami Beach. Key West closed down completely last night. Our boutique hotel of ten rooms was full, and as we checked late this morning out our trendy wooden-tagged key was placed in a solemn line on the table with nine others. Everyone was packing up, cancelling and heading home. We shared a Subway Footlong last night as we didn’t find anything else open or answering calls. We had wine and beer, and a muesli bar for dessert, so we ‘did fine’, as they say here along the Southern Dixie freeway to this end-of-the-world place full of Democrat Trump Haters.

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