Tuesday Forum: March 24, 2020

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Over 30,000 Chinese students have arrived in Australia since travel ban started

    Lock them up.

    I hope many many academics die.

  2. rickw

    450 young Aussies relaxing at the beach: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!
    31,196 Chinese fly in during a ban – now worries, says Scott.
    These are the imbeciles destroying people’s lives to Fwatten Da Curve.

    Not imbeciles, traitors, they clearly owe more to the CCP than Australian’s.

  3. twostix

    A lot of people are talking about Trump’s two week announcement at the moment, taking it to mean that’s how long our government enforced nightmare is going to last too. They’re uplifted when they mention it.

    This is because our own government refuses to tell us anything.

    He’s basically the leader of the anglosphere right now. Whatever he does – we’ll do. Everyone knows it.

  4. egg_

    “working parents bankrupted”

    In their thousands.
    That’s the fallout from “terrified” North Shore Medicos.

  5. BrettW

    As I have said a few times before Peter is a broken record.

    “It would be impossible to stage a takeover of this country by blunt military and police force. However, as is unfolding right before our very eyes, the same outcome can be achieved very effectively with a just little bit of fear and panic (coronavirus), backed up with a dash of well-publicised intimidation”.

  6. lotocoti

    Over 30,000 Chinese students have arrived in Australia since travel ban started

    Let’s hope none are from Yunnan province.

  7. Mother Lode

    Over 30,000 Chinese students have arrived in Australia since travel ban started

    And when people get angry about this they will be accused of xenophobia.

    Uncontrolled-illness-phobia will not be mentioned.

  8. egg_

    They are snookered between doing not enough and being destroyed by the internationalist media right now, or doing too much and being destroyed in six months.

    Look at the Trump short, sharp approach.

  9. Cardimona:

    Hang on, ScoMo; all the economic pain from the pandemic is being borne by the private sector – especially small businesses. When will the overpaid public sector share the pain? It’s time to reduce public sector pays to private sector rates and to stand non-essential public servants down on no pay or the dole like everyone else.

    Very good idea, Cardimona.
    The Public vs Private sector drama is being played out in our family right now.
    A couple of them are staring financial oblivion in the face, while a couple of others were gleefully trumpeting their immunity to economic disaster.
    Most extended families in Australia are going to find themselves in this position, and the results aren’t going to be pretty.

  10. Peter the old fossil

    As I have said a few times before Peter is a broken record.

    Fair enough Brett.
    I’m sure the one and a half million people put out of work by the weekend’s edict, will be reassured by your words.

  11. BrettW

    Cardimona’s letter was good but when are the news outlets going to question the non essential civil servants being fully paid whilst not working and as their Govts rack up more billions in debt ?

    “Hang on, ScoMo; all the economic pain from the pandemic is being borne by the private sector – especially small businesses. When will the overpaid public sector share the pain? It’s time to reduce public sector pays to private sector rates and to stand non-essential public servants down on no pay or the dole like everyone else”.

  12. rickw

    A couple of them are staring financial oblivion in the face, while a couple of others were gleefully trumpeting their immunity to economic disaster.

    This is getting phenomenally ugly in the private sector. If people manage to keep their jobs, they will be on 50% pay / work hours for a long time.

  13. stackja

    rickw
    #3375182, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:06 am

    Weren’t earlier attempts at exclusions called “racist”?

  14. Cardimona

    Have any Cats heard of “hantavirus” now in China?

  15. stackja

    Albo not go to tug anymore?

  16. BrettW

    Try looking at what Boris has done in UK and you will see our restrictions are mild.

    Besides you were a broken record before this virus came along.

    Peter the old fossil
    #3375202, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:25 am
    As I have said a few times before Peter is a broken record.

    Fair enough Brett.
    I’m sure the one and a half million people put out of work by the weekend’s edict, will be reassured by your words.

  17. EvilElvis

    Still waiting for public service cut announcements.

    And a barre being banned bailout!

    Think of the the barre practitioners!

    #getbarre’dup!

  18. egg_

    Albo not go to tug anymore?

    Albo’s a tug-o-warrier?

  19. calli

    Just back from my haircut. Poor hairdresser – panicked princesses phoning constantly and complaining loudly because “you can’t have your roots done in 30minutes, madam”.

    Anyway, I left her with a smile on her face, after I told her not to take and sh*t from anyone.

    And, as promised, I had the stopwatch on. All done for me in 15mins. Just like the fellas. 😁

    Plenty of TP, eggs and other good things at Coles. The meat shelves looked a little bare, but I suspect they’re restocking slowly to stop greed.

  20. lotocoti

    Have any Cats heard of “hantavirus” now in China?

    See my 10:18.

  21. Peter the old fossil

    A couple of them are staring financial oblivion in the face, while a couple of others were gleefully trumpeting their immunity to economic disaster.

    Good morning Winston.
    Same same here. A sister and two nieces in Canberra, all PS’s on $150,00 to $200,000 each, sitting pretty. Private sector son and nephew up here facing lay-off and subsequent financial ruin at the end of the week.

  22. rickw

    rickw
    #3375182, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:06 am

    Weren’t earlier attempts at exclusions called “racist”?

    Yes, hopefully Australian’s are learning that everytime someone calls them racist, it means they’re about to get it up the arse.

  23. Geriatric Mayfly

    Have any Cats heard of “hantavirus” now in China?

    Rattus rattus strikes again. The Jack Russell has nailed a few in recent weeks as they try to enter the winter palace.

  24. thefrollickingmole

    A sister and two nieces in Canberra, all PS’s on $150,00 to $200,000 each, sitting pretty. Private sector son and nephew up here facing lay-off and subsequent financial ruin at the end of the week.

    Whats the bet if you fronted the PS harpies about this theyd give an answer along the lines of “well they should have got a government job then”.

  25. egg_

    F24 News Ticker:

    Trump: COVID-19 could kill fewer than recession or depression

    Cop that, Medicos!

  26. calli

    Ahahah!

    That would be “any” sh*t.

    I’m pretty sure personal hygiene in the Bay hasn’t reached SanFran standards…yet.

  27. thefrollickingmole

    Oh and this is a nice little pallet cleanser.

    The luxury of apocalypticism
    The elites want us to panic about Covid-19 – we must absolutely refuse to do so.

    Our skittish elites have been so baffled, infuriated in fact, by our calm response to their hysterical warnings that they have invented pathologies to explain our unacceptable behaviour. The therapeutic language of ‘denialism’ is used to explain the masses’ refusal to fret over climate change. Environmentalists write articles on ‘the psychology of climate-change denial’, on ‘the self-deception and mass denial’ coursing through this society that refuses to flatter or engage with the hysteria of the eco-elites. Likewise, the refusal of voters to succumb to the dire, hollow warnings of the ferociously anti-Brexit wing of the establishment was interpreted by self-styled experts as a psychological disorder. ‘[This is] people taking action for essentially psychological reasons, irrespective of the economic cost’, said one professor.

  28. Peter the old fossil

    Try looking at what Boris has done in UK and you will see our restrictions are mild.

    People are no longer allowed to travel between England, Scotland and Wales?
    I didn’t know that, Brett. Thanks for the heads up.

  29. calli

    None of my kids would stoop to a job in the PS. All PE, two out of three with businesses of their own. Worried sick, but they’re tough nuts. Meeting tomorrow to discuss pay cuts vs. layoffs.

  30. egg_

    F24 News Ticker:
    Frogs – COVID-19 lockdown for 6 weeks

  31. ZK2A:

    I know the health record in outback communities is appalling, but there appears to be a ruthless determination to overlook the causes of that record….

    There are probably more people in Aboriginal support agencies than there are Aboriginals.
    That’s why the situation won’t get better.

  32. Tom

    This is getting phenomenally ugly in the private sector. If people manage to keep their jobs, they will be on 50% pay / work hours for a long time.

    Out of our workforce of 10 million, I’ll have to be convinced that five million are not now effectively unemployed.

    Morrison, who has never had a real job in his life, says this will go on for a minimum of six months. Trump wants it over in two weeks.

    Spot the leader.

  33. Cardimona

    Lotocoti, thanks; that’s one of those cases where my control-f searches won’t work…
    <(-:
    So hantaviruses are mainly transmitted by rats; guess who eats rats?

  34. calli

    It’s an ill wind…

    People are making healthier choices and leaving the vegan stuff to rot. Eggs and meat and spuds flying off the shelves. And now this.

  35. Some History

    DHS
    #3375141, posted on March 25, 2020 at 9:35 am
    The rise in COVID-19 cases in Australia is due to one reason only – government let people arrive here with the virus and spread it.
    FACT CHECK: True.
    I don’t have a problem with the government controlling its borders but this simply isn’t true.
    The more people that are tested for the virus, the more people will test positive. It is as simple as that. The tests are meaningless and it doesn’t matter how long we are locked down for, people will continue to test positive no matter what.

    Someone’s comment on an article

    From the CDC
    https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
    Page 3
    The 2019-nCoV RNA is generally detectable in upper and lower respiratory specimens during infection. Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.

    So they even admit themselves that their test is worthless yet justifies destroying the world economy. Time to wake up to what is going on here.

  36. Cactus

    The Oxford study suggests that 50% of the UK population may already have the virus. If true, that means it is milder than first thought in causing hospitalization and death and we are closer to herd immunity. They are testing people randomly now and seeing if people have antibodies.

  37. DHS

    This is getting phenomenally ugly in the private sector. If people manage to keep their jobs, they will be on 50% pay / work hours for a long time.

    But the truly stunning thing though is that even though this was so easily predictable, many of those same people in the private sector actually were clamouring for the government to do this very thing. Just a week or so ago, I saw a poll that said that 75% of Americans (and the same proportion of Republican voters) were content with the lockdown. To be fair, polls run by the media are probably not trustworthy but still, if you go on social media there are no shortage of people begging for their own financial execution.

    I am sure, as the economic pain rises, their views will change but it is hard to feel sorry for anybody who didn’t see this as a monumental fraud from the very beginning.

  38. Cardimona

    I’ll have to be convinced that five million are not now effectively unemployed.

    Guvvy-numpty on Sky News Radio was saying the MyGov system designed for 55,000 users received 3,320,000 discrete log-ins trying to gain access.

  39. calli

    Morrison, who has never had a real job in his life, says this will go on for a minimum of six months. Trump wants it over in two weeks.

    Spot the leader.

    It might also be spot the truth-teller.

  40. Cardimona

    Rockdoctor, NFA, Dr Faustus, Notafan – thanks for the input last night on (severe asthmatic) baby sis in Box Hill.
    She hasn’t made up her mind, but my vote is still for the quick road trip home to FNQ starting now.

  41. EvilElvis

    The government will freeze all pay rises for hundreds of top public servants, politicians, judges and ministerial staff.

    Freezes won’t cut it. Even Cardimonas suggestion won’t cut it. The PS will burn by the end of this. The yawing chasm that has been evident between PS and private entitlements has been blown out to Grand canyon proportions with the inept handling of this virus. Each day the wedge is driven deeper by the complicit media.

  42. Peter the old fossil

    Meeting tomorrow to discuss pay cuts vs. layoffs.

    Good morning Calli.
    Sincere best of luck with that. I hope you all can work something out.

  43. twostix

    I was told there are gp’s here sending people with any flu or cold symptoms straight to hospital.

    So the hospital is being overwhelmed with “paniced” flu patients taking up beds, etc until they’re tested.

    How is that happening?

  44. egg_

    The Oxford study suggests that 50% of the UK population may already have the virus

    WHO are saying half the World’s population will get it.
    Obviously, the mortality rate is miniscule.

  45. Cardimona

    Just looking at traffic again – sure looks like a curfew flat-spot on the curve most nights…
    https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/beijing-traffic
    (the “last 7 days” option)

  46. calli

    We will, Peter. I don’t want to see any of the guys out of work. Even if it means scooting along on the bones of our bums. We’ve done it a couple of times before.

    They look to the boss for leadership, and something else. Steadfastness.

  47. EvilElvis

    It might also be spot the truth-teller.

    One has spent a large proportion of their life creating wealth, setting timelines and sticking to them.

    The other is a tax hoover who wouldn’t know what a timeline is and can’t say no to anyone.

  48. calli

    Yes, Cardi.

    The Chinese have been lying their heads off.

  49. stackja

    EvilElvis
    #3375251, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:53 am

    And ALP/Greens?

  50. Cardimona

    EvilElvis, I got this into today’s paper…

    Exactly, Woz (24/3). In the COVID-19 era, with so many jobs lost and family businesses smashed, there is no longer any need for any public servant to be earning more than Australian Median Weekly earnings. Ric

  51. US based offspring in private sector. Not only are they financially secure, but big bonuses for turning up to work.

  52. Zatara

    I saw a poll that said that 75% of Americans (and the same proportion of Republican voters) were content with the lockdown. To be fair, polls run by the media are probably not trustworthy

    In this case they are particularly untrustworthy as there is no such national ‘lockdown’ in the US to be polled about. There is ‘closing the national borders’, perhaps that’s what they meant.

    Those lockdowns that do exist in the US tend to be in large, Democrat run cites and a few Democrat run States such as, surprise surprise, California.

  53. Turnip

    Have any Cats heard of “hantavirus” now in China?

    Probably always has been there.

    Just a great time by the media to mention it without any context

  54. calli

    EvilElvis
    #3375251, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:53 am

    That was not quite what I was thinking.

    There are other factors in play in the States. If the population was told even two months, what do you think might happen?

  55. Peter the old fossil

    Could people please stop getting panicked by this “tested positive” business. The numbers are meaningless. Over 80% of the adult population would test positive for the herpes simplex virus. But it doesn’t mean millions of Australians currently have a mouthful of cold sores.

  56. What the hell is barre?

    Ballet for Japanese people.

  57. twostix

    People treated the first talk of lockdown and forced work from home as a sort of christmas time mandatory holiday.

    Lots of familes out for strolls around here and chatting at 5pm after work. Lovely time, everyone relaxed.

    Shine’s wearing off now people are being fired though.

    By next week the savings are going to run out.

    The idea that this will last six months is laughable.

  58. all PS’s on $150,00 to $200,000 each

    But that is AUD.
    In a month or so that will be about $5 USD.

  59. cohenite

    That skank Pelosi’s daughter supports the dickhead who assaulted Rand Paul; look at it, it’s uglier then its vile mother; what a spawn; I maintain there are no attractive leftie sheilas; although I’m not sure this thing is female.

  60. Boambee John

    The government will freeze all pay rises for hundreds of top public servants, politicians, judges and ministerial staff.

    A good start, now reduce them evry quarter by the unemployment rate, and keep doing so until we get back below 4%.

  61. Zatara

    Yes, this critter has been around awhile. Evidence is now coming out that patient zero in Wuhan actually occurred much earlier than the 19 Nov previously reported.

  62. Diogenes

    Last night watching Scummo’s address, MrsD was yelling at the TV, “redeploy non-essential public servants to answer the phones at Satanlink you moron!” (so proud!)

    Suggestions EVERYBODY at working depts of arts, sport, education etc should be redeployed to work the overnight phones and keep the call centres open 24 hours. They can be used as the temps at my son’s company were to handle the massive influx of claims @ the start of this year(fire, flood, hail storms). They can do at least the initial record details and handle the really simple stuff, leaving the harder stuff for the more experienced Satanink staff.

  63. Roger

    …there is no longer any need for any public servant to be earning more than Australian Median Weekly earnings.

    Including politicians.

    “We’re all in this together.”

  64. Peter the old fossil

    They look to the boss for leadership, and something else. Steadfastness.

    Having followed your endeavours for a number of years now Calli, if that is the case then I say without reservation that your staff are in the best possible hands.

  65. Confused Old Misfit

    calli
    #3375261, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:58 am

    Not sure what you’re trying to say calli..

  66. egg_

    all PS’s on $150,00 to $200,000 each

    But that is AUD.
    In a month or so that will be about $5 USD.

    Along with their Super.

  67. stackja

    Menai Marketplace staff member contracts COVID-19
    A staff member at a popular Sutherland Shire shopping centre has tested positive to coronavirus, prompting an alert to customers of the store to monitor for symptoms.

    Eliza Barr, St George Shire Standard
    Subscriber only
    |
    March 25, 2020 10:48am

    A staff member at Menai Marketplace has tested positive to coronavirus after recently working at a store inside the centre.

    Centre manager Jacqui Bell issued a public letter to advise the staff member at Bed Bath N’Table tested positive for COVID-19 on Monday.

    “The staff member was working from 8.45am to 3.15pm on Thursday, March 19, however the affected team member’s treating doctor has advised that they were not contagious during this time,” Ms Bell wrote.

    “All staff who were in contact with the affected team member have been ordered to self-isolate at home for 14 days.”

    The store is now closed while a “deep clean” is being carried out.

    A sign outside the store said the store was “temporarily closed for the day” and would reopen on Wednesday.

  68. Infidel Tiger

    Ballet for Japanese people.

    Very good!

  69. Peter the old fossil

    MrsD was yelling at the TV, “redeploy non-essential public servants to answer the phones at Satanlink you moron!”

    Brilliant suggestion, Diogenes. Not a chance in hell of it being adopted though.

  70. twostix

    The “six month” lockdown thing is a platitude to old people to make them feel like they’re really, really, really, being thought about.

    It’s complete nonsense – patronising nonsense.

    Surprised anyone buys it.

    In a few weeks the pressure will be so great they’ll change the definitions and declare the pandemic contained and everyone back to normal (sans jobs, superannation, savings, family homes and ancient liberties like not being collectively imprisoned in our homes and towns by decree of distant governments).

  71. calli

    Not sure what you’re trying to say calli..

    Okay. I’ll spell it out.

    A breakdown of law and order. It wouldn’t take much. We’ve seen isolated instances in the past. This might be nationwide.

  72. Johno

    Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.

    Does this mean that a bacterial infection could return a positive for Chinese ‘Flu?

  73. stackja

    Hantaviruses are a family of viruses spread mainly by rodents and can cause varied disease syndromes in people worldwide. Infection with any hantavirus can produce hantavirus disease in people. Hantaviruses in the Americas are known as “New World” hantaviruses and may cause hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS). Other hantaviruses, known as “Old World” hantaviruses, are found mostly in Europe and Asia and may cause hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS).

    Each hantavirus serotype has a specific rodent host species and is spread to people via aerosolized virus that is shed in urine, feces, and saliva, and less frequently by a bite from an infected host. The most important hantavirus in the United States that can cause HPS is the Sin Nombre virus, spread by the deer mouse.

    CDC

  74. A breakdown of law and order.

    Will happen. Sooner than you think.

  75. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #3375291, posted on March 25, 2020 at 11:14 am
    A breakdown of law and order.

    Will happen. Sooner than you think.

    SAS deployed? ABC in lockdown?

  76. C.L.

    As a basic principle, all politicians and “health experts” should be paid a basic Centrelink dole from now on.

  77. Old School Conservative

    all politicians and “health experts” should be paid a basic Centrelink dole from now on.

    …but only after they have lined up for 3 days to apply for it.

  78. JC

    You’re such an idiot , Cronkite. Just putting it out there.

  79. egg_

    Frogs to all sit at home with the flu (allegedly) for 6 weeks?

  80. Cardimona

    Stackja, can the hantavirus be spread from chowing down on rats or their babies?

  81. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Grate – another plague ship docked in Sydney Harbour off Cremorne Point, I see.

    Wonder when all the passengers on that will be “accidentally” allowed to disembark?

  82. Confused Old Misfit

    A breakdown of law and order. It wouldn’t take much. We’ve seen isolated instances in the past. This might be nationwide.

    Thank you. I will make an assumption that you are talking about the USA as the site of this breakdown.
    If so, I agree. The Dimocrims have little idea of how close to the edge Pelosi and Schumer are taking things.
    The Dimocrims delaying of the virus relief bill is blatant.The pork-barreling criminal. The revelations of maladministration in the New York State Health dept. only add fuel to the fire.
    That there are still near half the population that are still afflicted with TDS is beyond rational comprehension.
    If things get much worse on the employment front and if either side presents a definable target it could well get nasty.

    Morrison, … says this will go on for a minimum of six months. Trump wants it over in two weeks.
    Spot the leader.
    It might also be spot the truth-teller.

    Trump is telling the truth when he says he wants it over in two weeks, not that it will be over in two weeks.
    Trump actually has less power than Scotty
    The damage the liberals could do in six months makes my stomach churn. And there will not be any barricades in the streets here to protest anything.

  83. EvilElvis

    Exactly, Woz (24/3). In the COVID-19 era, with so many jobs lost and family businesses smashed, there is no longer any need for any public servant to be earning more than Australian Median Weekly earnings. Ric

    You’re a champ, Cardi. Keep it up mate.

  84. mh

    Hadley is calling upon Gladbag to resign over the Ruby Princess fiasco.

  85. dover_beach

    The “six month” lockdown thing is a platitude to old people to make them feel like they’re really, really, really, being thought about.

    This is the monumental miscommunication that you contrasted well earlier when you raised Morrison and Trump. We can’t be in ‘lockdown’ for six months. Two-four weeks maximum, then back to work with some social distancing restrictions, strict hygiene requirements and continued contact tracing and quarantine for those testing positive, and potentially ad hoc ‘lockdowns’ if we get spikes occurring in the next 6-12 months.

  86. DHS

    Does this mean that a bacterial infection could return a positive for Chinese ‘Flu?

    Pretty much anything could. A recent flu shot, too much sunlight, it could be anything because there is simply no way to evaluate whether the test means what people think it means. I wrote this yesterday but I will repeat it because it is of the utmost importance.

    You need to test the test.

    That means you need to take, say, 100 people and assess whether they are sick. Let’s say persons 1, 10, 50 55, 60, 71, 74, 81, 83, 90, 98, 99 are sick. And of those, persons 1, 50, 55, 60, 81, 90 and 98 have respiratory disease.

    So then we perform this test. But of course it is performed by people who know nothing about which people are sick. They just look at the results of the test.

    Let’s say that the results come back and persons 1, 55, 60, 81 and 98 test “positive”. Well we know that all of these people were indeed sick and they all had respiratory problems. We can (reasonably) think that the two people with respiratory disease could have had some other cause so that probably doesn’t negate the value of our tests.

    However, what would make our tests pointless is if lots of people tested positive who weren’t suffering from respiratory disease.

    We would need to perform this same test with lots of 100 people groups to make sure but once we had (and we saw very few errors) then we would safely conclude we had a useful test.

    This is of course never done. Nobody bothered testing PCR (the virus tests) against the actual real world to see if it matched up with actual illness. Instead we went the other way. We tried to make the real world match up with the virus test. If someone tested positive – even if they were perfectly healthy, we used this to claim that they were indeed infected but it was “asymptomatic”.

    This is not science.

    None of it is.

    At least if any good comes of this horror it will be that more and more people will wake up to the lies of medicine.

  87. Roger

    A breakdown of law and order. It wouldn’t take much. We’ve seen isolated instances in the past. This might be nationwide.

    The depletion of social capital, particularly in our two largest cities, bodes ill.

  88. egg_

    Where is cronkite?

    Whoops!

  89. EvilElvis

    There are other factors in play in the States. If the population was told even two months, what do you think might happen?

    Ok, I reckon Trump’s thrown the two weeks out as 20% hope for the plebs and 80% pressure on the private sector to get things happening and pressure on politicians to allow things to happen.

    #MAGA

  90. egg_

    Two-four weeks maximum, then back to work

    How many small businesses would be solvent after 4 weeks?

  91. egg_

    The depletion of social capital, particularly in our two largest cities, bodes ill.

    The Woolies aisle kerfuffle would be nothing, compared to an angry mob.
    500 pissed off beachgoers?

  92. EvilElvis

    Calli, in other words Trump’s backing MAGA in against the weight of the world while Scomo is just throwing a number out which gives no hope, no impetus for achievement and he honestly has no idea what’s going on.

  93. dover_beach

    How many small businesses would be solvent after 4 weeks?

    Good question, which is why I would give them the greatest latitude to keep operating.

  94. calli

    I was referring to the States. But Roger is correct. Fear makes fools of us all, but some are tipped into depravity. And there are others who just wait for opportunity.

    I have watched grief turn to looting in the space of 24 hours. It happens.

  95. Old School Conservative

    Hadley is calling upon Gladbag to resign over the Ruby Princess fiasco.

    There must be many examples of war time generals/admirals/etc being removed from decision making positions because of failure to win.
    We have constantly been told we are fighting this virus in a war-like situation.
    It can’t be hard to find out who gave the final decision to allow a boat load of infected passengers into Sydney and fire them.
    Border Force, Gladys, Dept of Health – somewhere there is an email with the proof.
    “Every touch leaves its trace”.

  96. egg_

    NDTV News India giving COVID-19 information with the usual edumacation placards containing face masks and bug blobs.

  97. Zatara

    Ok, I reckon Trump’s thrown the two weeks out as 20% hope for the plebs and 80% pressure on the private sector to get things happening and pressure on politicians to allow things to happen.

    Absolutely agree. Great carrot and stick leadership. Carrot for the people, big stick for the politicians.

  98. Roger

    The Woolies aisle kerfuffle would be nothing, compared to an angry mob.
    500 pissed off beachgoers?

    A lot of pressure will build if this lockdown continues indefinitely.

    Ands we’re no longer a society that shares a common identity or ethos.

    It’s a recipe for internecine conflict.

    Appeals to the spirit of the Anzacs are meaningless in the Australia our political/big business class has created.

  99. Confused Old Misfit

    I have watched grief turn to looting in the space of 24 hours. It happens.

    Where was this calli?

  100. There are probably more people in Aboriginal support agencies than there are Aboriginals.

    Winston Smith not so much the agency, but what services are in that agency would reveal what you say to be pretty close to the mark. Just using what is in my district as a guide, there would be no less than 20 support structures in the organisation. Ok you might have used hyperbowl, (HT Julia Gillard) but the sheer weight of money is enough to blow one’s mind.

  101. EvilElvis

    They need more than that. Interest cancellation and repayment suspension. Small business needs tax cancellation. And they deserve it. They actually earn a living. And help others earn a living. Unlike the subsidised bankers and public servants.

    It’s to late for any of that. There’s no customers. Today is D-day. It’s dead out there, people are spooked.

  102. Eyrie

    What’s that sound I hear?
    Could it be the spirits of the men and women of the Eureka Stockade?

  103. Confused Old Misfit

    Boeing Plans 737 MAX Production Restart By May

    The Endgame: HHS Secretary Alex Azar Lays Out How Trump Will Defeat Coronavirus ‘Invisible Enemy,’ Reopen America

    “The president will look at the data with his top medical advisers, people like Dr. Debbie Birx, Tony Fauci, Robert Redfield, Steve Hahn at FDA, as well as I’m sure outside advisers, and will make a decision in the next week whether to continue the 15 days or whether there are appropriate modifications he would make to the rest of the country,” Azar told Breitbart News in a phone interview on Tuesday afternoon. “For instance, whether it’s to look, as Dr. Birx I believe said yesterday in the press conference, to look at maybe focusing in localized areas instead of common national recommendations.”

  104. Peter,

    In the immortal words of Oddball :
    “Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves”

    “Woof, woof”.

  105. custard

    Given that I sell mobile COVID isolation homes for a living and not a single soul wants to buy one, I expect the boss will send us home at the end of the week.
    And ALL the pain of the biggest overreaction in my lifetime is being borne by the private sector….

  106. Ellen of Tasmania

    I understand why we would be questioning the numbers on this virus – how many actually sick, percentages of those who require hospitalisation, ICU, death and so on.

    But it’s worth remembering that the numbers from done and dusted epidemics/pandemics are probably no more accurate and maybe far less so. How many got the Spanish flu mildly and were not counted as SF cases at all? How many died from secondary bacterial infections, pre antibiotics? Lots of unknowns.

    I don’t know much about anything, but it seems to me that we are (rightfully) willing to question current stats while assuming that the stats from the past are gospel. We may also be playing the ‘global temperature’ game with this. Different countries seem to be having very different outcomes at present, and as Dover said, it’s too early to be sure about much, but good old ‘time will tell’.

  107. Infidel Tiger:

    We’ve shut down cafes, pubs, shops,cafes, sport, life… but we’re not even policing isolation or keeping people on Plague Ships.

    No ones in charge. All the supposed leaders are doing Virus Theatre.
    This goes back to the abolition of the old Department of Civil Defence and setting up the Australian Civil – Military Centre.
    As you can see from the link, it very quickly morphed into a feminist/progressive/jobs-for-life bureaucracy.
    So far I’ve seen very little evidence of any coherent action from it.
    But then, that wasn’t its function, was it?
    Theatre – because there’s no difference between doing something and appearing to be doing something on Planet Bureaucracy.
    Have a look at the Domestic Engagement Directorate:

    The International and Domestic Engagement Directorate leads the ACMC’s outreach activities.
    Within the ACMC, the International and Domestic Engagement Directorate works with Australian Government agencies and non-government partners to improve civil-military-police cooperation through a series of programs, projects and events.
    The Directorate supports stakeholders in the achievement of their policy objectives. We encourage and facilitate civ-mil-pol coordination in all stages of planning and policy development. We also manage a series of thematic programs, which drive outreach initiatives and education activities with the aim of influencing better civ-mil-pol outcomes. We respond to stakeholder requests for support and seek opportunities to further the mission of the ACMC.
    The Director of International and Domestic Engagement is Dr Kristie Barrow, who leads a team including Australian Public Service personnel and contracted experts employed for their education expertise and experience in Australian government policy development.

    They don’t actually DO anything apart from have meetings.

  108. The government will freeze all pay rises for hundreds of top public servants, politicians, judges and ministerial staff.

    Absolutely meaningless.

    This will be over by the time pay rises tick over and then they will award themselves huge increases for handling the “crisis” so bloody marvellously.

    Immediate 30% cut for all pollies. Cap of $150,000 on every PS until “crisis” is over.

    Enact that and the virus will disappear by tomorrow, about teatime.

  109. Peter the old fossil

    “Woof, woof”.

    I’m a dedicated cat person, Brett.
    Boofhead says hello.

  110. calli

    Where was this calli?

    The story is here

    Danny drove down my street, amongst the rioters. The thing lasted a couple of days, there were hundreds of them, up and down, looting anything that wasn’t nailed down. I sat on the verandah, stitching and keeping an eye on things, while the housegirls had the children and their nieces in the back of the house. They were terrified.

    Tear gas canisters landed in the yard, and The Beloved stood at the gate, barring it. He had no weapon, just his big, brawny self. One guy with a looted axe tried to gain entry, but decided he better not.

    All the expats were advised to leave town and go out to the plantation, but we couldn’t leave the housegirls – they had no way of getting home. With 20-20 hindsight, staying stopped our home from being ransacked and the girls were safe. And after that, they never stole a thing from us. Call it gratitude. 😄

  111. Confused Old Misfit

    No ones in charge. All the supposed leaders are doing Virus Theatre.

    Winston Smith
    #3375344, posted on March 25, 2020 at 11:54 am

    “We have put into power a class of people whose skills are all in manipulating language and managing image and narrative, and as a result our procedures for dealing with problems rely first, and sometimes exclusively, on these tools.”
    Anon.

  112. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    FFS – has anyone else received this scolding message* on their mobile phone? “Coronavirus Aus Gov msg: to stop the spread, stay 1.5m from others, follow rules on social gatherings, wash hands, stay home if sick.”

    Fuck off, you nanny monstrous state fuckwits.

    *Via bloody telstra

  113. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Aaarrrgggh!

    Fuck off, you monstrous nanny state fuckwits.

  114. thefrollickingmole

    Cardimona
    #3375243, posted on March 25, 2020 at 10:49 am
    Rockdoctor, NFA, Dr Faustus, Notafan – thanks for the input last night on (severe asthmatic) baby sis in Box Hill

    Ok,

    Sabutomlol and nebulizer then get a friendly doc to prescribe dome ipotropium briomide, its a drug similar to sabutomol but works on a different set of receptors in the lungs.
    Is a bit harsher than sabutomol in its side effects, but if shes bad and isolating it will help a severe attack.
    https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-3752-5222/ipratropium-bromide-inhalation/ipratropium-solution-inhalation/details

  115. Good to see the top Govt staff are making the big sacrifices and giving up a pay rise whilst others totally lose their jobs. What a joke.

    Clearly the treasurers are able to just use their unlimited credit cards to pay wages for people not working or very underworked. Not worked out that Govt income just gone down massively and expenditure gone up. Not a problem just put it on the tab for the rest of the population who will sacrifice jobs and lost income whilst the non essential civil servants get full pay.

    We are going into many billions of dollars more debt yet the Govt is not taking action on their bloated payrolls. A 20% cut to many civil servants around the country would save billions.

    “The government will freeze all pay rises for hundreds of top public servants, politicians, judges and ministerial staff.

  116. currencylad

    Appeals to the spirit of the Anzacs are meaningless in the Australia our political/big business class has created.

    Yep.

  117. Some History

    Thats a bargain. Sack, sack sack them all. Or at least harvest two UBI’s out of the salary of each if they cannot be sacked. You do this directly with the public service and indirectly with finance.

    SloMo is intending to expand the PS (at the expense of the private sector).
    There’s no problem, says SloMo. We’re re-purposing skills. Someone who worked on the phone taking airline bookings can now work in a call centre taking calls for Centrelink.

  118. Peter the old fossil

    The Caloundra Bunnings Store was cleared and closed down by police yesterday afternoon.
    Apparently people were not obeying the 1.5 metre “social distance” rule.
    Can you say ‘political stunt’ folks? I just knew you could.

  119. Roger

    It can’t be hard to find out who gave the final decision to allow a boat load of infected passengers into Sydney and fire them. Border Force, Gladys, Dept of Health – somewhere there is an email with the proof.
    “Every touch leaves its trace”.

    Good luck.

    In a managerial society the buck never stops, it just goes round and round.

  120. Old School Conservative

    has anyone else received this scolding message

    Yes, 11.13am.
    I swear my phone has a SIM card invented by Richmond Valentine.

  121. bespoke

    Ellen of Tasmania
    #3375092, posted on March 25, 2020 at 8:59 am
    “A 72-year-old priest who gave his respirator to a younger Covid-19 patient he did not know has died from coronavirus.

    I don’t have to be religious to recognize what kind of man he is.

  122. NoFixedAddress

    custard
    #3375341, posted on March 25, 2020 at 11:52 am

    Given that I sell mobile COVID isolation homes for a living and not a single soul wants to buy one, I expect the boss will send us home at the end of the week.
    And ALL the pain of the biggest overreaction in my lifetime is being borne by the private sector….

    @custard

    all the best for you custard.

    its a right royal bastard so to speak.

  123. DHS

    But it’s worth remembering that the numbers from done and dusted epidemics/pandemics are probably no more accurate and maybe far less so. How many got the Spanish flu mildly and were not counted as SF cases at all?

    There are credible reasons to believe that the Spanish Flu was actually caused by a mass experimental vaccine program – not for flu but for other diseases. I say credible because the people most affected were soldiers and their immediate contacts (other young people). That makes no sense from a standard flu virus perspective. But it is well known that soldiers were given massive amounts of vaccinations.

    Back in the Black Death, we have very little census data from any country back then (maybe Italian city states) but we do have good parish records. And that clearly shows a staggering number of people who died. Here is the thing though. If you ever look up treatments used for bubonic plague you will start to wonder if anybody ever actually died of the plague itself. Standard treatments were eating emeralds (no I’m not joking), smearing faeces into wounds, living in sewers, being whipped, being starved, being starved, killing Jews, drinking mercury and drinking arsenic.

  124. Peter the old fossil

    has anyone else received this scolding message* on their mobile phone?

    Yeah – about an hour ago. Pathetic, isn’t it.

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In a managerial society the buck never stops, it just goes round and round.

    Well said.

  126. Siltstone

    Cancel the submarine contract immediately, never was affordable, ceratinly not now.

  127. mh

    Australia’s top border cop has criticised NSW Health for not boarding a cruise ship where more than 100 people were infected with coronavirus before passengers were allowed into Sydney.

    ABF commissioner Michael Outram said he did not want to “apportion blame” but the decision to let 2,700 people disembark from the Ruby Princess at Circular Quay fell to NSW Health.

    “The decision to allow them off in relation to the health and biosecurity issue was one of the NSW Health,” he said.

    At least 133 people from the Ruby have since tested positive for COVID-19.

    Mr Outram said after hearing criticisms of ABF officers, he believed it was important to “clarify some actual facts” about how passengers were allowed off the ship.

    “I’ve got no information in front of me, factual information at all that says my officers did not equip their responsibilities under the customs … (or) immigration acts,” he said.

    Mr Outram said on March 18 the Ruby Princess was told a NSW Health panel had assessed the ship as “not requiring on-board health assessment in Sydney”.

    “NSW Health stated to the Ruby Princess, ‘you are free to disembark tomorrow’,” he said.

    Mr Outram said despite the NSW Health ruling that the Ruby Princess was “low risk” his six officers wore masks and gloves when conducting their customs and immigration checks.

    “The Department of Agriculture officials advised my officers that NSW Health had conducted a risk assessment, had rated the risk as low and that health officials would not be attending the vessel.

    “As a result of that information, all of the passengers were given a green light to disembark.”

    Mr Outram refused to specifically blame NSW Health for the failure, but said ABF did not have responsibility for conducting or facilitating health checks.

  128. Caveman

    When in doubt form a commission.
    Introducing the Covid19 coordination commission, the new clown show.

  129. Old School Conservative

    The Caloundra Bunnings Store was cleared and closed down by police yesterday afternoon.

    I was at Freshwater beach when the police closed it on Sunday.
    The individual police persons had the good grace to look embarrassed as they did it.
    Hopefully their ambivalent attitude will prevent more abrasive measures by the plod.

  130. bespoke

    Drove passed a large crew of wide brimmed hand pickers all huddled together . Nice late model cars to.

  131. Mother Lode

    If Morro is looking for a way out cutting APS wages for the duration, the rivers of gold splashed with such wantonness over those goblins and orcs, will be perfect.

    They will suddenly start clamouring for the lockdown to be cancelled, and suddenly discover that the situation is not as dire as made out.

  132. mh

    Can you say ‘political stunt’ folks? I just knew you could.

    Say it ten times fast and it becomes political cvnts.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    And still the oldies refuse to die.

    More suicides this week than China Flue deaths. How many are because people have lost their jobs we will never know.

  134. Confused Old Misfit

    This virus has laid open to public view the incredible incompetence of both our political leadership and the faceless, voiceless, talentless individuals that occupy seats in both upper and lower houses of both federal and state governments.
    The evident state of confusion in the public service indicates that directors and managers have failed to act to plan for a situation that they should have seen as possible in January and as probable in February.
    Both elected representatives and heads of departments are at fault for the resulting economic devastation.

  135. rickw

    The Caloundra Bunnings Store was cleared and closed down by police yesterday afternoon.

    Disappointing not accompanied by a chant of “Fuck Off Wankers!”

  136. Siltstone

    Thats a bargain. Sack, sack sack them all.

    Lots of fat cat public servants at the end of their careers wuld love to be made redundant and get a very big bag of extra taxpayers money.

  137. Dr Faustus

    It can’t be hard to find out who gave the final decision to allow a boat load of infected passengers into Sydney and fire them.

    Bjerrycan is ahead of the game, OSC:

    At a press conference this morning, Ms Berejiklian was grilled over the decision to let passengers disembark and asked whether the federal Border Force agency was to blame.

    She said: “All of us [in government] have to take responsibility.”

    It’s everywhere and nowhere babe, that’s where it’s at…

  138. Some History

    When in doubt form a commission.
    Introducing the Covid19 coordination commission, the new clown show.

    Greg Combet (pronounced “twit”) is on the commission.

  139. Geriatric Mayfly

    bespoke
    “A 72-year-old priest who gave his respirator to a younger Covid-19 patient he did not know has died from coronavirus.I don’t have to be religious to recognize what kind of man he is.

    The ABC will soon remedy that perception.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    To get Australia’s death stats to 8 we have had to import dying people.

    That says so much about Australia, I don’t even know where to begin.

  141. thefrollickingmole

    FFS – has anyone else received this scolding message*

    Yes arrived in time to nearly make me drive off the seawall (my mobile is almost a paperweight around site…

    #coronavirusmessagesurvivor

  142. mh

    She said: “All of us [in government] have to take responsibility.”

    Gladys is in da Nile.

    Drowning in shit.

  143. Gab:

    I’d like to know how any of you would handle this situation. What, just ignore what’s already happened overseas and do nothing cause she’ll be right, mate?

    I would have isolated Australia in mid January. Let aircraft land, allow Australian passport holders off straight into quarantine. Refuel the aircraft and send it back to its departure point. Same with ships.
    Closed the schools and universities (BIRM).
    By mid February, isolated the >60 year olds with community support – visits to front gate/front door as appropriate. Home delivery of necessities.
    I would never have closed workplaces. This is just lunacy. Self isolate if you wish.
    Yes, some people are going to die – that’s what happens during an epidemic, but making it worse by treating the economy like a redheaded stepchild is counter productive.
    I would not be allowing any takeovers of distressed businesses. If necessary, allow funding to keep them operating – essentials only. Tattoo parlors can close.
    Keep as many people at work as possible.
    Offer jobs to the unemployed doing productive tasks. Dig out the dams, chop out the weeds at the roadside the councils refuse to poison, replant the burned out forests with non burning trees.
    Round up the illegal immigrants and send them home.
    We actually have an opportunity to get stuff done if we dare do so.

  144. Confused Old Misfit

    And still the oldies refuse to die.

    Tried it once.
    Didn’t like it.
    So I came back.

  145. Helen

    hantavirus is got from wait for it

    eating rats and mice

    fortunately human to human transmission is rare – apparently …

    Is there a lab nearby?

  146. NoFixedAddress

    Siltstone
    #3375377, posted on March 25, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    Cancel the submarine contract immediately, never was affordable, certainly not now.

    plus shut down,
    DFAT
    AFP,
    HEALTH
    EDUCATION
    ASIC
    APRA
    on the first day

  147. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3375394, posted on March 25, 2020 at 12:31 pm
    bespoke
    “A 72-year-old priest who gave his respirator to a younger Covid-19 patient he did not know has died from coronavirus.I don’t have to be religious to recognize what kind of man he is.
    The ABC will soon remedy that perception.

    Milligan …- “Controversial Priest Offers Inducement to Vulnerable Young Man.”

  148. cohenite

    You’re such an idiot , Cronkite. Just putting it out there.

    Oh the tedium, I’m so bored, here in the office counting money and reading head prefect’s little tinkles. You only said that head prefect so your sock, this ghost bot, could engage it’s gears and say something mystical, in a Woman’s Day kind of way. Which it did.

    Anyway, you’re just jealous; my 30 year old bod is something you only had briefly between the ages of 20 and 20 and 2 months before you went off the rails. It’s sad how you went down hill. And get a better sock.

  149. thefrollickingmole

    custard

    Rumour is a lot of wrinklies have shot through to Coral Bay as their “bartertown”.
    A place with a nursing post and one gravel airstrip 1200 or so KM from Perth and at least 400km from a hospital.

    But it might be worth you getting on the blower to the bay and seeing if you can make yourself middleman for any bits they need for their vans.
    Might keep you in a bit on money.

  150. Bear Necessities

    50,000 died in WW1. Equivalent to over 250,000 in today’s terms. Many more physically and emotionally maimed returning diggers.

    Anzac Spirit does not = Wuhan Flu virus.

  151. cohenite

    The Caloundra Bunnings Store was cleared and closed down by police yesterday afternoon.
    I was at Freshwater beach when the police closed it on Sunday.
    The individual police persons had the good grace to look embarrassed as they did it.
    Hopefully their ambivalent attitude will prevent more abrasive measures by the plod.

    They closed Bunnings! Is this all stores or just this one. I hope everyone has already got a nail gun which is indispensable in end of the world situations such as we have now. Everyone that is, except head prefect, since he would only nail his tongue to his foot.

  152. Delta A

    It is not only the premier and/or Border Force to blame for the Ruby Princess farce. This from today’s Australian:

    Two more COVID-19 cases in the NT traced to Ruby Princess
    A cruise ship that docked in Sydney with four confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Thursday had previously been sailing with 158 sick passengers on board — including 13 with high temperatures — who disembarked at Circular Quay before the vessel left for New Zealand with nearly 4,000 on board.

    The Ruby Princess returned to Sydney 11 days later — on Thursday, March 19 — with four confirmed cases of coronavirus; health officials are now urgently trying to track down passengers who were allowed to disperse into the community.

    Two more confirmed cases in the Northern Territory have been traced to passengers from the Ruby Princess.

    The infections were found in a couple who disembarked from the Ruby Princess cruise ship and then flew to the Top End capital, before testing positive for COVID-19 on Saturday.

    Questions are now being raised over why the Ruby Princess was permitted to leave Sydney for New Zealand without undergoing quarantining or disinfection — it was carrying 2,700 new passengers and 1,100 crew members when it set sail, just hours after 158 sick people disembarked the ship.

    Further concerns are being raised over the conduct of the Ruby Princess’s master. An email sent by the Port Authority of NSW, and obtained by The Weekend Australian, revealed that when the Ruby Princess arrived in Sydney on March 8 its captain told NSW Vessel Traffic Services there were “no ill passengers or crew on board”.

    This is despite the ship logging its 158 unwell passengers through the Federal Government’s biosecurity management portal, known as MARS, or the Maritime Arrivals Reporting Systems. Breaching the MARS is an offence under the Biosecurity Act, according to its website.

  153. Chris

    Disaster! First we cancelled the muzzle-loading shooting Nationals; then today they closed the shooting range completely. Da hell? You go there alone, do healthy stuff , then leave alone.

  154. DHS

    I’d like to know how any of you would handle this situation. What, just ignore what’s already happened overseas and do nothing cause she’ll be right, mate?

    I can tell you. I would have said “the virus tests are meaningless and what is happening in Wuhan is just people in a heavily polluted city contracting pneumonia just as they always do. There is no evidence that the virus is new and therefore there is no reason to worry about it spreading nor is there any reason to believe it has a high case fatality rate.

    However, if people are worried, we will happily expand access to masks.

    I would then challenge any “expert” in media to a debate and tear them apart by pointing out the uselessness of the tests, and how no mere mortal could have possibly known the virus was “novel”. I would also say to the media that they should be extremely careful about encouraging me to use emergency health powers to lockdown society because fomenting hysteria over a non-existent virus could easily be construed as a public health risk and, whilst I would be very upset about hairdressers, miners and café owners losing their livelihoods, I would shed no such tears for anybody who works at the ABC, Fairfax, News Ltd, Seven, Nine or Ten losing their jobs.

    Do you know what’s funny?

    My answer to this problem is the answer to virtually all of our problems. Punish the commie/doctor worshipping media and let freedom reign.

  155. Eyrie

    Chris, the local pistol club where our smallbore club shoots is also closed. WTF?

  156. Eyrie

    “No ones in charge. All the supposed leaders are doing Virus Theatre.”.
    Yep a smart man told me once that his father told him “never confuse activity with achievement.”

  157. feelthebern

    Shouldn’t the cops have to provide proof the social distancing wasn’t working?

  158. areff

    WHO warns US could become epicentre, but Trump wants country back to normal by Easter

    The ABC, at it again.

    If you were chief sub and a down-table comma cruncher put that in your queue for approval, you’d read the copy, get up, walk with an air of menace to the offender’s terminal and smack the kid behind the ear.

    The headline clearly suggests that Trump wants people to gather in the pews when what he’s actually saying is that it would be lovely IF the crisis abates to the point where church services are possible.

    Meanwhile, CBS in the States (Ten’s parent) is blaming Trump because two nitwits drank fish-tank cleaner containing chloroquine (and, no doubt, a lot of other nasty stuff)

    Here’s the story and the actual headline:

    Arizona man dies, wife ill after taking drug touted as virus treatment: “Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure”

    So Trump’s to blame for NOT telling effwits that they shouldn’t be drinking cleaning solutions.

    Die, Big Media, die!

  159. feelthebern

    We have constantly been told we are fighting this virus in a war-like situation.

    Yes it is war-like.
    There are the fools leading from behind (those on taxpayer paid incomes).
    & there are those going over the top getting a German machine gun burst to the chest (those who don’t derive income from the tax payer).

  160. Dr Faustus

    Further concerns are being raised over the conduct of the Ruby Princess’s master. An email sent by the Port Authority of NSW, and obtained by The Weekend Australian, revealed that when the Ruby Princess arrived in Sydney on March 8 its captain told NSW Vessel Traffic Services there were “no ill passengers or crew on board”.
    This is despite the ship logging its 158 unwell passengers through the Federal Government’s biosecurity management portal, known as MARS, or the Maritime Arrivals Reporting Systems. Breaching the MARS is an offence under the Biosecurity Act, according to its website.

    On the strength of this, I’d say the concern might be more about the disconnect between State and Commonwealth agencies. The captain may have fucked up the paperwork, but clearly someone in the agencies failed to get them to coordinate.

    Strange, given there is a bit of a pandemic thingy going on at the moment.

  161. Rebel with cause

    America, 1809: Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.

    Victoria,2020: There is no social occasion or celebration that’s worth more than a human life.

  162. Armadillo:
    Winston Smith remains carry-over champion.

    Bullshit. Toss a coin.

    Piss off you diseased, leprotic, bag of maggots. The arseless chaps are mine and they be going out again tonight.
    Sing along with Winston!
    And again!

  163. Ellie:

    Let’s play beg the J ew!

    Huh?

  164. egg_

    France enters second week of lockdown as COVID-19 deaths rise
    Government is urging people to be more disciplined and stay indoors to stop the spread – 100,000 police officers have been deployed to enforce the restrictions.

    Al Jiz

  165. EvilElvis

    Custard,

    All the best, mate. I’m shutting up shop today. Nine people out of work. Not worth it. People look at shop front closures and go “what a shame” but don’t get that behind the scenes there’s probably 10 times that amount in delivery, warehousing, manufacturing, sales etc, etc. This will scar this country.

    Good luck.

  166. Ellie

    Ellie:

    Let’s play beg the J ew!

    Huh?

    Huh?

  167. Mark A

    So as everyone is about to die this would be a good time to say

    pineapple doesn’t belong on a pizza.

  168. egg_

    it very quickly morphed into a feminist/progressive/jobs-for-life bureaucracy.

    Speaking of plagues.

  169. egg_

    pineapple doesn’t belong on a pizza.

    *May contain traces of pangolin.

  170. pineapple doesn’t belong on a pizza.

    Yep. There are better uses.

    I’m looking at you Dan.

  171. Infidel Tiger

    For those that need cheering up, an immigration lawyer of my acquaintance is about to go out of business.

  172. Chris

    Custard, EvilElvis, all the best. Wanta form a recreational criminal syndicate?

  173. EvilElvis

    Thanks Chris.

    I prefer ‘semi-professional’ to recreational. We don’t want it to look like we’re not trying. 😂

  174. Fat Tony:

    Anyone want to have a guess when the government is going to confiscate all legal firearms in the country?
    It will happen – the question is when. There will be no resistance allowed.

    Yes – it occurred to me a week ago.
    No further comment.

  175. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    For those that need cheering up, a NSW Liberal powerbroker and lobbyist is seriously ill with moronavirus in the intensive care unit of a Sydney hospital.

  176. egg_

    a NSW Liberal powerbroker and lobbyist

    & unfit fvck?

  177. Mater:

    The last time my university educated ex-nurse wife (with significant and diverse experience) tried to revamp her registration, it appeared as though she’d very nearly need to redo her university course.
    Clearly not on for a Mum wishing to re-enter the workforce, and she has since started a new career.

    Yep. I wanted to go back to work after the transplant and because it was over 18 months, the NRB said piss orf. To reregister, I had to do the entire university degree stuff. seeing I was 62, it seemed to be a bit ridiculous.
    I’ll go back and help if they want, but it’s a case of ‘put me on the roster and spare me the bullshit or it’s just not happening’.
    I don’t have the time or the patience to deal with administrations who want to stuff me around. Incidentally, many of those administrators have the qualifications to fill the positions but just want arse on seats jobs. If the admin people are not prepared to go on roster, then why should I?

  178. Helen

    How would I have handled it? I would not have let 5 planes a day land from virus central (the tourism, the tourism the students the students racism racism) I would have not let any non passport holders into the country, revoked all visas for non residents.

    I would have mandated 14 days quarantine in a quarantine place (even if a booked out hotel) for all passport holders returning unless they got a clear test.

    I WOULD HAVE TESTED TESTED TESTED AND STILL BE TESTING

    1. Testing would establish pockets and individuals (we still have no idea of silent asymptomatic carriers established to be 20 % by western testing – Dr Campbell referred yesterday or today and he only uses per reviewed papers) from whom we could trace back and locate and test others, pockets we could shut down until 14 days self isolation passed and all tested clear.

    2. this means that areas which have clean sampling can stay at work earning a quid and those that are dirty stay dirty and locked down until cleared. A dirty area might be a suburb or a couple of streets or a small town or a farm. As big as they need to be.

    3. We will very soon have an antibody test which will establish those who have had it and are now in effect, immune. These people can go back to work.

    From now? I would start the process at Testing testing testing and keep on with it, feeing areas and people up to go back to work.

    I am told over and over that test kits are rare and expensive. BTEC cost 1 billion dollars to eradicate Brucellosis and tuberculosis 40 years ago. I reckon 100 Billion now would be cheap compared to the stimulus and the trashing of the economy that is occurring now.

  179. Helen

    Oh and Dr Campbell this am says 70% fat people in ICU in IK so far. Could dining on Maccas be a premorbidity condition?

  180. Helen

    UK – but it would be ik

  181. Boambee John

    It can’t be hard to find out who gave the final decision to allow a boat load of infected passengers into Sydney and fire them. Border Force, Gladys, Dept of Health – somewhere there is an email with the proof.
    “Every touch leaves its trace”.

    The title NSW Deputy Chief Medical Officer has been mentioned.

  182. The Beer Whisperer

    How long to widespread civil disobedience and flouting the shitdown?

    I give it 6 weeks, tops. And yes, I’m being conservative.

  183. EvilElvis:

    The yawing chasm that has been evident between PS and private entitlements has been blown out to Grand canyon proportions with the inept handling of this virus.

    Farmers/small businesses have never figured it out. Why does the government make their lives so difficult?
    It’s slowly becoming more evident – they are the kulaks of society. The ideological enemies. A kulaks success is a newspaper belt across the nose of the mongrel government.
    For a closer look at the problem, the MIA is a powerful lesson. The Public sector is the dominant, the private sector is the subject.
    Evilelvis, you have just described the wedge being forced into Australian society.

  184. Blackbull:

    Winston Smith not so much the agency, but what services are in that agency would reveal what you say to be pretty close to the mark. Just using what is in my district as a guide, there would be no less than 20 support structures in the organisation. Ok you might have used hyperbowl, (HT Julia Gillard) but the sheer weight of money is enough to blow one’s mind.

    I spent about ten years doing nursing support to many of the communities in WA/NT/Qld/NSW. I found it particularly instructive to read the rosters and to note who turned up for work. I also took the time to find out who was working under their ‘married name’ their single name and their tribal name.
    When I complained to the tax department about it, nothing was done. Because ‘too hard.’
    Also instructive was the rate at which the pokies were fed, and who went to the card games.

  185. The big eared, hunch backed, commo, old folks and babies killer wins the virtue signaling championship.
    Not only did the fascist prick have a hand waver as is compulsory for all elites apparently (haven’t these morons heard of subtitles), BUT he had a Chunk hand waver. Gold award from lefties, sneering disgust from normies.
    Can you hand wave in Chunk?

  186. Rossini

    Idiot on 3Aw calling for complete lockdown.
    Deaths in Victoria 2
    He obviously will still get paid
    Isolate the bloody media on a deserted Island with limited supplies and no internet (that
    would kill them) and make them pay exorbitant rent.
    2 deaths in the state for goodness state regardless less stuff everybody else.
    Notice that those calling for the shut down will still have employment………..aceholes

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