Being bribed with our own money

Fresh from disagreeing with Judith I’m now going to disagree with another of my good friends:

The first of Australia’s “scalable” stimulus acknowledges the importance of building a skilled workforce by subsidising employers to retain apprentices. Businesses will be able to claim 50 per cent of the wage cost of apprentices and trainees already with the business for the next nine months.

Parnell Palme McGuinness

That statement might seem more-or-less innocuous. But I suspect directing money to apprentices has very little to do with any concern about training and the importance of apprentices. Rather it has to do with the fact that tradies now tend to be Liberal voters.

As an aside – think about the businesses that Morrison and his unconstitutional National Cabinet shut down last night. Tattoo parlours, massage parlours, beauticians who provide lashes and waxes, “adult entertainment venues”, things like that. But not hair-dressers (I made a comment in a thread saying that hair dressers had been shut down – fake news, sorry). Okay – so what is going on here? I suspect the logic is something like this – hairdressers provide employment for many women, but tattoo parlours are probably fronts for bikie gangs, lashes and waxers provide “frivilous services” that no conservation could ever approve of, and massage parlours and “adult entertainment venues” are almost certainly immoral.

Anyway – I digress.

Parnell also seems to think that prior to the Covid-19 pandemic we had something called ‘open borders’.

COVID-19 is acting like a truth serum on our economy and revealing weaknesses in the borderless dream that will need to be addressed.

and

It is incumbent on each nation to use the opportunity to find the right balance between economically destructive protectionism and the utopian fantasy of a borderless world so that humanity emerges stronger.

Australia had and still has some of the strictest border control in the world. We do not have an open border.

In a matter of weeks it has shut down the liberal world order of decades and proven the nationalists’ claim that, as Yoram Hazony puts it in The Virtue of Nationalism, “the ties of community are deeper than the dispassionate ties of contract”.

Really? That is why Victoria has a 500 strong police unit enforcing “the ties of community”? What does anything think those individuals at Bondi beach thought about “the ties of community”?

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39 Responses to Being bribed with our own money

  1. Yeah, Australia doesn’t need more apprentices, it needs more economists. BTW, you’d clearly be surprised at how many women nowadays sport tattoos (as ugly as that is). So best not to digress.

  2. Sinclair Davidson

    BTW, you’d clearly be surprised at how many women nowadays sport tattoos (as ugly as that is).

    Alas – I’m not surprised.

    I’m commenting on the value judgements that underpin some of the choices being made.

  3. Archivist

    Australia has the appearance of tight borders, but work and study visas have effectively become a backdoor immigration pathway.

    As an aside, there is something seriously wrong with Australia’s apprenticeship system. Apprentices earn very low wages, yet employers have to be encouraged and subsidised into taking them on.

  4. Sinclair Davidson

    Archivist – the operative word in your story is “visa”. Australia does not allow permissionless access (except for New Zealand).

  5. Archivist

    Tattoo parlours, massage parlours, beauticians who provide lashes and waxes, “adult entertainment venues”, things like that. But not hair-dressers (I made a comment in a thread saying that hair dressers had been shut down – fake news, sorry). Okay – so what is going on here?

    My take, when I heard it, was that they have shut down all the dodgy cash industries that use lots of illegal immigrant labour. My response last night: “Wow, never let a crisis go to waste, eh?”
    Closing all massage parlours and nail salons, for example, will have a minimal impact on the centrelink lines compared to hairdressers.

  6. Sinclair Davidson

    they have shut down all the dodgy cash industries that use lots of illegal immigrant labour.

    Good point.

  7. John A

    Archivist
    #3375597, posted on March 25, 2020, at 2:49 pm

    Australia has the appearance of tight borders, but work and study visas have effectively become a backdoor immigration pathway.

    As an aside, there is something seriously wrong with Australia’s apprenticeship system. Apprentices earn very low wages, yet employers have to be encouraged and subsidised into taking them on.

    That’s because our schools are turning out well-schooled, uneducated nincompoops who can’t read or think, can’t write clearly and logically, can’t do basic trigonometry or know any geography. They don’t know where they are unless they use Maps on their phones. History? Fugeddabaoutit!

  8. Deplorable

    they have shut down all the dodgy cash industries that use lots of illegal immigrant labour.

    Good point.

    A very good point which is possibly why the centrelink queues are so big, the cash economy and no engagement with MyGov through ATO.
    All politicians and senior public servants state federal and council should have large decreases in salaries, footballers and administrators should take an 80% haircut and no taxpayer handout. This is serious and the financial pain must be shared.

  9. Mother Lode

    I’m commenting on the value judgements that underpin some of the choices being made.

    That is uncanny.

    I came across this just yesterday.

    Queer Tattoo

  10. BorisG

    I agree with the government that hair dressers are more essential than tattoos. Therapeutic massage – probably not.

  11. BorisG

    How is professional massage dodgy?

  12. notafan

    If you can’t get your health care fund to give you a rebate it’s ‘dodgy’

    The shopping mall ones are okay though they never seem to have many customers.

    The two near my old shop, one next door actually, where most of the (only male) customers preferred to discretely slip out the back door into the laneway, not so much.

  13. Shy Ted

    Because the owners and frequenters of such parlours are suddenly going to start obeying the “law”.

  14. Sinclair Davidson

    How is professional massage dodgy?

    The PM suggested that massages for medical purposes were still being allowed. It was those OTHER massages that were now not allowed. 🙂

  15. Confused Old Misfit

    I have been monotonously repeating the substance of your headline to anyone whose ear I could bend for decades.

  16. COVID-19 is acting like a truth serum on our economy and revealing weaknesses in the borderless dream that will need to be addressed.

    and

    the utopian fantasy of a borderless world

    Then Sinc said

    We do not have an open border

    Neither of those two comments say Australia has an open border. “borderless dream” and “Utopian fantasy” clearly aims at the intentions of the open borders, unlimited immigrants crowd like the Greens, ALP and their ABC.
    I suspect we’ll find the current China Virus situation referred to in future immigration/refugee debates.

  17. sfw

    Tattoos on women are just natures way of giving warning signs, the more tattoos and the more they are displayed is a good thing. It lets you know who to steer clear of. Tattoos mean damaged goods, the more tatts the more damaged the person.

  18. Tony

    As someone who works with apprentices, I second the claim they vote Liberal. In fact, unless they say one thing and vote the opposite, they overwhelmingly vote Liberal. Today’s apprentices are a far cry from the tub thumping lefties of the shop floor, all they want to do is qualify, buy a tradie ute, and start their own business.

  19. Tony

    And as for tattoos: doesn’t matter the gender, at least 75% of apprentices are inked up.

  20. Roger

    Australia had and still has some of the strictest border control in the world.

    The controls may be strict on paper but the evidence suggests they’re not that strict as to who they allow in.

    We’re not getting the best and brightest but rather the ones who know how to game our system, which appears to have been outsourced to the universities and “immigration lawyers” (a profession that didn’t exist when I was a young up and comer).

    But I digress…

  21. Herodotus

    There used to be many apprentice positions because we used to make stuff.
    The UK used to make lots of things, as did the USA, and others.
    Now China makes so much and sells it for below the price that the western nations can match; we have offshored a lot, and climate idiocy has killed the remainder.
    Apprentice baristas?

  22. John of Mel

    Really? That is why Victoria has a 500 strong police unit enforcing “the ties of community”?

    The reason for this is our “tight” immigration program that allows hundreds of thousands of people from incompatible cultures to delude the community ties. It’s been proven by a few studies now, that the more diverse is an area, the less trust people have for each other.

  23. stackja

    Coronavirus: Woman who returned from overseas with virus begged to keep it secret
    An Australian woman who returned from a trip overseas with COVID-19 has opened up about her “stupid” decision to keep it secret.

    Hannah Paine, news.com.au
    March 25, 2020 6:32pm

    Coffs Harbour man charged after COVID-19 ‘prank’ at police station
    Summer Woolley
    7NEWS
    Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:56 am

    Meanwhile: Stupid people playing games.

  24. Squirrel

    For some time, I’ve had the feeling that Australia was in for a bonfire of the vanities (Savonarola, not Tom Wolfe) and whatever the trigger for that, globalism was likely to be wound back appreciably – so I’m with Parnell.

  25. 2dogs

    It was those OTHER massages that were now not allowed.

    Licensed brothels have not been shut down.

  26. Tim Neilson

    Licensed brothels have not been shut down.

    Welcome to “progressive” world. In order to slow down COVID 19 gyms are shut down, but you can still get your heart rate up with promiscuous casual paid sex.

    Does our “civilisation” really deserve to survive?

  27. John of Mel

    delude the community ties

    Pardon me. Dilute, of course, not delude.

  28. 2dogs

    The rate of infection is much lower in the UK than elsewhere in the EU.

    Brexit has saved the UK.

    In less than two months, a very real, very tangible benefit.

  29. jupes

    Australia had and still has some of the strictest border control in the world. We do not have an open border.

    Well after we have allowed a million of their loyal citizens to live here, the Chicoms no doubt see things differently.

  30. gary

    Can Australia afford a $160billion deficit in one year? Plus state govt deficits. I hope Australia is not heading to Zimbabwe level hyper inflation. It may seem silly, but things have happened in the last month that I didn’t think was possible.
    .
    Quote from Hemingway:
    “How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.
    “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

  31. Chris M

    2dogs – it’s embedded in the Bible. Prophecy from 2600 years ago states Europe will never be united. So many leaders through history have tried it and failed.

  32. 2dogs

    You’re talking about the Tower of Babel?

    I have a very different interpretation of that legend. Since it is not wrong to seek the divine, the tower builders were not sinning, and they were, therefore, not punished. They were, in fact rewarded, by being given the answer they had sought. That is, the division into many tongues was God’s answer, the means by which He may be known.

  33. Chris M

    No no, Babel was many centuries earlier! I’m referring to the prophecy of Daniel, you could google Europe in Bible prophecy, plenty of good commentary about this.

    In other news… looks like Prince Charles may have been infected at a climate change conference! So sad, a victim of climate change (not grinning).

  34. After many years of failing in trying to observe & work out how the female mind works the only thing I could be definitely sure about was, no matter how many times they would be late for an appointment with my good self, a female would NEVER be late for an appointment with her Hairdresser! It’s called getting your Priorities right – Good luck ScoMo with restricting their appointments to 30mins? Might have been better for him to have checked with Mrs ScoMo first?

  35. Zatara

    How is professional massage dodgy?

    If they offer you The Special, it might be a dodgy massage.

  36. Up The Workers!

    The Prime Happy Clapper probably thinks that ‘tramp stamps’ are only for druggies, “fugs”, Union goons, OMG members, ladies of the night and other such Labor voters.

    I wonder if he’d make an exception if you said you wanted a tattoo of enraptured “Happy Clappers”?

    Or if you sported a blue rinse and lived in Turncoat’s electorate?

  37. Up The Workers!

    Yeah…very sad news about Prince Charles coming down with Chinese Disease.

    After hanging about on the dole for 71 years waiting for his hereditary job to finally come vacant, I wonder whether his first reaction was to race from Clarence House, to Windsor Castle and kiss and embrace his mother profusely before breaking the news to her?

    On the other hand, with Yoko Markle, her hubby, her son Archie and her father-in-law all now tentatively off the payroll (if Chinese Charles pops his clogs with this disease), the Buck Palace petty-cash-tin looks a whole lot healthier than it did a few weeks ago.

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