Wednesday Forum: March 25, 2020

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  1. min

    What hairdresser would want to be first salon where covid 19 was passed on ?
    However after watching promos of MAFS there will be no lack of clients of high maintenance women who would rather be dead than seen without the hair colour etc.

  2. mh

    Alan Jones still saying 9 deaths, even though 2gb news has reported these new deaths:

    Two Victorians have died from coronavirus. The Victorians – both men – were aged in their 70s.

    Two other Victorians – one aged in their 30s and the other in their 60s – are fighting for their lives in intensive care.

    There have been 54 new cases in Victoria, bringing the state’s total number of cases to 520.

    The deaths bring to 11 the number of people who have died in Australia.

  3. calli

    Good luck with your meeting.

    Thanks, Peter. Decided not to broach pay cuts just yet – we have over a million on the books. It’s the New Broom’s call.

    Just watching a dead head on the TV talking about hairdressers – he reckons he spends over 30mins at the hairdressers so it’s not practical. Jerk.

    My girl washed, cut and dried my hair in just under twenty minutes (while taking idiotic phone calls from worried beauty queens).

  4. Twostix

    Government isn’t even looking at the numbers. They’re now looking almost exclusively at behaviours and response to their diktats.

    That’s what they’re hyper focused on now. Compliance with their mandates.

    The actual numbers and the virus itself are fourth or fifth on list now.

    Because with less than ten people dead – half of them not even aussie – nobody can soberly look at the numbers and say that these actions are justified.

    That’s why all we hear about is compliance and new diktats.

  5. Peter the old fossil

    to be able save face and stop and walk away.

    And why would we want to do that?
    On the offchance of enough people waking up to stop this before it is too late, which is increasingly unlikely, I want to see the bastards dragged out into the streets and hanged from the nearest lightpole. Their families too. Then the carcasses left hanging to rot as a reminder to anyone else with similar ideas.

  6. Farmer Gez

    The Democrats have lost their last ideological crutch as Trump shoves money at the virus downturn.

    The evil monetarist is a Keynesian pump primer after all.

    Trump was never a hard line conservative/supply side thinker, if he thought at all about economics. He’s a ‘seat of his pants’ speculator that quickly spots opportunities and exploits bad decisions by others.

    He does good on the way but you can’t pin him down politically and that’s what’s killing the Dems as they are political dogmatics to the core.

  7. calli

    If Zippy’s information is true, we have evidence of utterly unconscionable behaviour by China and its minions.

    While our despicable Vice Chancellors bent over backwards to import their poxy human paypackets, their fellow countrymen were plundering-by-buying our limited resources to remedy/inhibit/treat the very thing their country set loose.

    I don’t expect our jellyback politicians to do anything about it. Too many Aldi bags.

  8. rickw

    Yes! Thanks, rick!
    I LOVED that cartoon as a youngster Gunner!
    I used to draw heaps of pictures of it in my room…
    Is the whole series on YouTube??

    There’s a lot of them but haven’t seen the whole series lined up.

    Remember when the ABC was of some use: Star Blazers, Monkey Magic, The Goodies, Dr Who, The Two Ronnies, The Good Life (now a documentary about living in Australia in 2020), Ain’t Half Hot Mum, etc…

  9. mh

    mh
    #3376611, posted on March 26, 2020 at 7:23 am
    UK death toll lotto result 435

    Winner was late entry Helen Davidson (nmrn) with 493 (closest).

    Everyone got caught out with the incredibly low overnight death total of 13.

    🚨 🚨 🚨

    Poms are still discovering more deaduns.

    Result of death lotto is NOT confirmed yet.

  10. Dr Faustus

    Fears for Betty W as Tampon Chilla Big Ears tests positive

    From overnight UK social media:

    Prince Charles is in self-isolation with COVID-19
    Prince Andrew is in self-isolation with Courtney, 15

    (I understand that HM is safely in self-isolation.)

  11. Twostix

    In a week or so when government starts illogically dropping hints that it wants to walk away from all of this. Just let them do it without a big fuss.

    No it won’t make any sense – and yes if you look at the numbers people will still be dying at the same rate and testing positive at the same rate as they are now and naturally you’ll want to say “what the hell did you destroy thie country for then??”

    But don’t. Let them walk.

  12. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I want to see the bastards dragged out into the streets and hanged from the nearest lightpole.

    I agree. Then Heads on Pikes, up and down the length of Northbourne Ave. After a very large bermb has been dropped on that concrete neo-brutalist monstrosity where they hatch their idiotic fascist brain farts.

  13. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Let them walk.

    Then let them do it all over again, when the next fabricated emergency is invented.

    A dance of diminishing returns, I would think. There’ll be no functioning society or economy left for them to destroy.

  14. Twostix

    While our despicable Vice Chancellors bent over backwards to import their poxy human paypackets, their fellow countrymen were plundering-by-buying our limited resources to remedy/inhibit/treat the very thing their country set loose.

    The question must be asked: Did Coles take any special large orders from its Chinese customers since last December.

    Of course they did.

  15. calli

    I thought about a good “discourager”. Much better than my numbered sticks.

    Stihl pole saw. “Whirr. Whirr. Oops!”

  16. Peter the old fossil

    Spurgeon, you’re my kind of Donkfish.

    Got to go now. One of my mistresses urgently requires my “close” attention.

  17. Knuckle Dragger

    So Morrison reckons people can’t leave the country any more. Excellent precedent. Neither can non-trade-related goods then*.

    Having dealt with caravanners, Job #2 having ascended to the Big Chair will be each and every Pack and Send or similar business in this country. Their business model consists entirely of:

    1. Pack mountains of baby formula, bogroll, hand sanitiser, facemasks and anything else deemed of value wheeled or driven into the shop by the Bat People; and
    2. Send it to Hubei via Guangzhou or Shanghai.

    I won’t pretend to know nearly enough about outgoing charges, tariffs, excise and what not to drive them out of business that way. Instead I’ll use the bastard Health Departments against them and shut the pricks down for weeks once there’s a grain of rice (infection risk) found on the lunchroom floor. Cockroach throwdowns.

    Seize all the non-computer-based ledgers, all written in Battish to avoid scrutiny, all the proceeds (at least 50% cash, just like the rub and tugs*) and hold them while the records are interpreted over the following three years. Of course, this would also involve kicking in the doors of the business owners and repeating the process, only this time pinching their computers as well.

    Weekly fire safety inspections, and closures when the crates of bogroll are ‘positioned’ in front of fire exits, if there are any.

    Monthly ATO audits.

    Park the cops outside their front gates to do RBT testing six hours a day, because the Bats love the gas.

    If after three months they’re still in business, put the screws on.

    *Not mineral resources. Except to BatLand. They get nothing.

  18. Megan

    I’m grateful knowing that so many others here can see the greater picture of what’s happening across the country. Different interpretations and perspectives, yes, but a good understanding of the unforseen consequences and their severity for years to come.
    I am a total outlier amongst my family and friends who are busy running in circles, demanding I stay home except to shop and talking at me about how the government will save us.
    I’m ready to join the heads on likes brigade!

  19. Farmer Gez

    We haven’t been able to buy a single bog roll in our local supermarket for over three weeks. Who’s getting the supplies? It’s not country towns that’s for sure.

  20. Nelson Kidd-Players

    If anyone gets squashed amidst vehicles and is found to have Covid19, which tallyboard gets the tick for the cause of death?

    If a Victorian euthanasia suffer ends it all and is found to have Covid19, which tallyboard gets the tick for the cause of death?

    If a small business owner cannot take it anymore and is found to have Covid19, which tallyboard gets the tick for the cause of death?

  21. calli

    Is a “like” an extra-long pike, Megan?

    😁

  22. Ellen of Tasmania

    Zippy’s story:
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-backed-company-s-mission-to-source-australian-medical-supplies-20200325-p54du8.html

    Public service announcement:
    “For as long as schools are closed, we’re open. Starting today, kids everywhere can instantly stream an incredible collection of stories, including titles across six different languages, that will help them continue dreaming, learning, and just being kids.

    All stories are free to stream on your desktop, laptop, phone or tablet.”

    at: stories.audible.com

  23. Megan

    PIKES!!!! Damned stupid phone.

  24. Rossini

    Idiot on 3Aw calling for complete lock down
    Deaths in Victoria 2
    He obviously will still get paid
    Isolate the bloody media on a deserted Island with limited supplies and no internet (that
    would kill them) and make them pay exorbitant rent.
    2 deaths in the state for goodness state regardless less stuff everybody else.
    Notice that those calling for the shut down will still have employment………..aceholes

  25. Megan

    Calli, shorthand for the Stihl pole saw.

  26. lotocoti

    Surely the happiest person in Straya must be whatshisname, that bloke who lost the unlosable election.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    The immediate reversal of the 30 minute haircut rule for chicks does nothing except reinforce the proposition that this entire fiasco is about superficial hand-waving and absolutely nothing about reducing potential transmission vectors and dying Australians.

  28. calli

    Thanks Ellen.

    It’s a deliberate act of bastardry. We must not forget it.

  29. Geriatric Mayfly

    (I understand that HM is safely in self-isolation.)

    Don’t go just yet Betty. We want a send off with all the pomp and circumstance. Just ten people will not do.

  30. Dr Faustus

    In Evidence Based news:

    Parliamentary Secretary for the Hunter Catherine Cusack is pushing for a shutdown of regional motels and caravan parks to stop the spread of coronavirus.

    Ms Cusack said the experience in Spain showed what happened when people fled urban areas with high rates of coronavirus.

    “The reason they are having such a crisis now is that people fled the cities into the regions. It has caused geographic dispersion of this illness all over Spain, and that is the massive problem for all of their health services, for their testing. The whole key to defeating this is to confine it,” she said.

    Good catch, Catherine.
    Apparently people are fleeing Sydney to hole up in motels in Woolgoolga.

  31. calli

    And McClymont’s article needs to be screenshot.

    Because it will disappear.

  32. bespoke

    I’m not a fan on hugging between adult’s but toddles and aged are going to suffer.

  33. mh

    Cardimona
    #3376607, posted on March 26, 2020 at 7:15 am
    Cats, I managed to get some Cat-wisdom into the Gold Coast paper today.

    The Editor

    Food for thought; $189 billion stimulus

    Stimulus. Anyone know why any of the 189, 000, 000, ooo AUD are being referred to as stimulus?

    Morrison wants the economy shut down for 6 months. What is he stimulating with this money?

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Important point:

    Gabriella Power, Sky news moppet.

    Hot AF.

  35. Ellie

    MV, I’m still waiting for you to prove the lies you said about me regarding your dead wife,
    Bring it forward old chap?
    You lying piece of shit.

    Leave him alone, Struuuth.

  36. Top Ender

    Daily Mail Australia doing its best to whip up fear, loathing, and despair:

    Terrifying new research shows 10,000 Australians under 30 could DIE in a best case scenario if our coronavirus outbreak isn’t brought under control – as the PM defies doctors’ calls for a full shutdown

  37. calli

    But the doctors’ wives neeeeeed their roots done.

    Didn’t the doctors get the memo?

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    HAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

    45 absolutely destroying the panic-mongering journos in a presser.

    ‘You do. You write fake news.’ Points at lady question-asker-er. ‘She does.’ Point at another one, off camera.

    ‘The media, some in your profession want me to fail on this.’

    Repeats that 19’s from China. ‘Lots of talk about it. It came from China.’

    Poetic.

  39. Ellie

    Ray Hadley is dissing my local cafe in Waverley. They are a family of Italians, running a little business. Ray, calm your farm, you hysterical woman!

  40. Anne

    Joe Biden tests negative for President of the United States.

  41. Knuckle Dragger

    Right this minute Lizzie will be proofing her missive for the editors at Quadrant to come save her.

    And Hairy, if there’s room.

  42. bespoke

    Maybe this will stop the spread of Coodies .

  43. Dr Faustus

    Italian mayor wants drones to swear at anyone breaking coronavirus lockdown rules

    An Italian mayor has suggested using drones to shout profanities at people ignoring stay-at-home rules for the containment of the coronavirus outbreak.

    The drones will broadcast “my voice that will say as soon as I catch you, ‘where the f*** are you going? Go back home!’. This will be the voice of the drone.”

    More effective than the Australia voice of the drone.

  44. lotocoti

    Prince Charles is in self-isolation with COVID-19

    Hold hard, Madge. Hold hard.

  45. Nelson Kidd-Players

    The news report on 3AW said that Chuck had (was likely to have?) picked up WhüFlü at the Bushfire Relief event in London, and had been in contact with Mumsy soon after. I hope her fortitude remains strong. The prince may be vulnerable.

    Agree that Tony Jones on 3AW is a good reason to reach for the dial, in my opinion. Where’s Neil?

  46. mh

    An Italian mayor has suggested using drones to shout profanities at people ignoring stay-at-home rules for the containment of the coronavirus outbreak.

    The drones will broadcast “my voice that will say as soon as I catch you, ‘where the f*** are you going? Go back home!’. This will be the voice of the drone.”

    Oh no, not another Sinophile mayor.

  47. Nelson Kidd-Players

    The Italian Mayor just needs that cockatoo from the clip I posted last night…

  48. hzhousewife

    Public service announcement:
    “For as long as schools are closed, we’re open. Starting today, kids everywhere can instantly stream an incredible collection of stories, including titles across six different languages, that will help them continue dreaming, learning, and just being kids.

    All stories are free to stream on your desktop, laptop, phone or tablet.”

    at: stories.audible.com

    Ellen THANK YOU ! This is brilliant and I am sharing it all over. No Classical Radio FM today, stories instead !!

  49. liliana

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3376700, posted on March 26, 2020 at 9:07 am

    Brilliant plan.

  50. cohenite

    Farmer Gez
    #3376687, posted on March 26, 2020 at 8:53 am
    The Democrats have lost their last ideological crutch as Trump shoves money at the virus downturn.
    The evil monetarist is a Keynesian pump primer after all.
    Trump was never a hard line conservative/supply side thinker, if he thought at all about economics. He’s a ‘seat of his pants’ speculator that quickly spots opportunities and exploits bad decisions by others.
    He does good on the way but you can’t pin him down politically and that’s what’s killing the Dems as they are political dogmatics to the core.

    Correct. But I believe the Don is genuine in his love of Western values and truth, justice and the American way. You can’t say that about the demorats; and the punters are seeing that demonstrated more every day.

  51. mh

    The drones will broadcast “my voice that will say as soon as I catch you, ‘where the f*** are you going? Go back home!’. This will be the voice of the drone.”

    Imagine if a couple are in lockdown in their apartment, and, for this example, the fella starts going nuts and bashing his Mrs.
    She escapes out the door, starts running down the road for help, then she hears the Italian Mayor’s voice booming “Where the fuck are you going? Go back home!”

  52. cohenite

    Anne
    #3376726, posted on March 26, 2020 at 9:24 am
    Joe Biden tests negative for President of the United States.

    Very good Anne; the decrepit old hack also tests negative for sanity.

  53. BorisG

    Let’s look at the countries that are doing ok here.

    Israel is not doing ok. It is doing as ok as Australia.

  54. vr

    Joe Biden tests negative for President of the United States.

    Don’t forget to attribute it to the “Imam of Peace”

  55. min

    Suggest all those on this thread who are carrying on about the shutdown look at what is happening in Italy and Spain . Spain has now supposedly more deaths than China, although their numbers are suspect with some wondering about the 15 million cancelled phones because bills not paid for a month .
    I have stayed in some of those towns in Italy that are not coping with the numbers of sufferers and to see via RAI news the overworked, stressed doctors and nurses I wonder what will happen to these people and their town in future. However not the first plague the towns have survived .
    There is no way way we want this to happen to our hospitals and staff. Thank goodness family members who are on the coalface here are coping , overworked but still ok.

  56. Roger

    As 73-year-olds on a round Australia caravanning trip, we find ourselves on the NSW south coast now needing to return home in Western Australia. But that’s not so easy.

    Needing or wanting to return home?

    Yes, it’s it’s annoying that borders are closed – not “closed closed”, but crossing them poses the inconvenience of spending two weeks in the caravan with all mod cons you’ve been happily living in for months.

    But at least you’re towing that portable home around the country; think of those who’d have to sleep in their cars or under the stars for two weeks at the border. And there will be those.

    Maybe reconsider that need and stay put on the south coast of NSW, eh?

    There are worse places to be stranded in a pandemic…like Melbourne for instance.

  57. The Beer Whisperer

    Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3376671, posted on March 26, 2020 at 8:37 am
    One thing I would love to do after all this insanity abates (presumably temporarily) is go out and smash to smithereens every CCTV camera I can find.

    You better be quick. Once the riots commence, there won’t be many left.

  58. areff

    Agree that Tony Jones on 3AW is a good reason to reach for the dial

    He’s a shocker, ain’t he! If he can have a radio show, marine sponges deserve the vote — they’re considerably smarter.

    Then comes Nurse Ratchet in the afternoons, replacing Denis Walter, who has been shunted to the nightside so 3AW can say it is gung-ho for giving girls prime time airtime.

    If anyone set out to challenge 3AW’s dominance with a new talk station, well the market is ready and waiting.

  59. Zatara

    Ms Cusack said the experience in Spain showed what happened when people fled urban areas with high rates of coronavirus.

    This is exactly what appears to be happening in the US as people flee the virus-laden cesspit that is NYC and spread the virus willy-nilly across the landscape. Florida is particularly impacted by this.

    Having New York license plates on your car while driving out of state is to be instantly loathed and feared.

  60. P

    at: stories.audible.com

    Ellen THANK YOU !
    This is brilliant and I am sharing it all over. No Classical Radio FM today, stories instead !!

    Discover

    Excellent, Ellen.

  61. Zatara

    ‘Sweet Caroline’ redux.

    Hands
    Washing hands
    Reaching out
    Don’t touch me
    I won’t touch you…

  62. Nelson Kidd-Players

    If only we could be rid of that other behemoth of the airwaves, just sitting in the corner like Jabba the Hutt. There may be more space for competition in Broadcastland.

    Rábz?

  63. C.L.

    The trouble is going to be how to allow our governments – now crazed and drunk on power and hysteria, who have destroyed our country and way of life to be able save face and stop and walk away.

    Because right now they can’t. They’re all in. They’ve literally bet the country. No going back now.

    What we now is the notional CFRs that started it all were garbage.
    Donald Trump’s original view of the percentages was very close to the mark – while the “experts” of three weeks ago weren’t even close.

  64. Geriatric Mayfly

    No Classical Radio FM today,

    As a serious classical music outlet it died over a decade ago. So today is no different.

  65. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Oh no, not another Sinophile mayor.

    those trade deficit yellow dollars at work

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We arrived home safe and sound yesterday on one of the last flights into Sydney after completing some of our holiday agenda. In a long life I have always made my own risk assessments and paid my own way. Nor am I prone to hysterics about matters epidemiological, or anything else.

    My hair will not suffer although the economy certainly will. I own scissors and dye is still available from Chemist Warehouse. I have survived tougher times than this. 🙂

    LAX looking like a cattle paddock was quite an experience, as were many other things we did and saw which the state of the Cat did not impel me to share. No regrets at all about going. We are well and all set to enjoy 2 weeks at home. We will miss the cruise ships sailing by of course, huge mist-wreathed swans in a calm dawn or a towering fairyland of lights at night on dark waters. I wonder if these Leviathans may not have had their day.

  67. rickw

    What we now is the notional CFRs that started it all were garbage.
    Donald Trump’s original view of the percentages was very close to the mark – while the “experts” of three weeks ago weren’t even close.

    DJT has a great ability to discern reality.

  68. woolfe

    Why didn’t that caravanner jump on a plane?

  69. NoFixedAddress

    Must be every anarchists wet dream in becoming a ‘modeler’ to destroy economies.

    8 in 10 Australians need to stay home to flatten the curve: new modelling

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/8-in-10-australians-need-to-stay-home-to-flatten-the-curve-new-modelling-20200325-p54dsu.html

    ALSO
    referenced at the SMH article above which states

    This site is run by volunteers. Please consider supporting it.

    https://www.covid19data.com.au/

  70. feelthebern

    Donald Trump’s original view of the percentages was very close to the mark – while the “experts” of three weeks ago weren’t even close

    Trump has demonstrated the best strategy of any elected leader.
    & he’s done this against the non-stop attacks from the media.
    & he’s been right.
    Ex Manhattan & a nursing home in Washington state, the US has almost the best stats on the planet.

  71. Anne

    Prince Charles isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19.

    Prince Andrew isolating at Windsor with Colleen-13.

    H/T someone on the Internet.

  72. Fat Tony

    Where’s all the dunny paper going? China??

  73. Sinclair Davidson

    I wonder if these Leviathans may not have had their day.

    Welcome home Lizzie.

    I hope not – I have a Christmas cruise booked around New Zealand and a re-positioning cruise booked next year from Sydney to Hawaii.

  74. C.L.

    We arrived home safe and sound yesterday on one of the last flights into Sydney after completing some of our holiday agenda. In a long life I have always made my own risk assessments and paid my own way. Nor am I prone to hysterics about matters epidemiological, or anything else.

    Good for you, Lizzie.
    You should know that some of your critics are still in their pyjamas afraid of going to the letterbox.

  75. areff

    MTR tried, true. But it had 3AK’s old (weak) frequency, couldn’t reach much of Melbourne and piped Sydney comperes into Dannograd on the blithe assumption that the local audience would cop it and like it. It was most annoying to hear the host refer to the West Suburbs and realise he meant Emu Plains, not Foot-a-scray.

    Curiously, 3AW is now doing the same: piping in Sydney “talent” because it’s cheaper, hence Tony Moclair’s exit from the midnight-dawn shift.

    Do it properly and you’d have 3AW’s guts for garters.

    Clarke Forbes, the programme director who made 3AW top of the heap, was pushed into retirement. Hire him and let him hire the rest of the talent. I think he’d enjoy giving his former masters a bit of stick

  76. NoFixedAddress

    How a handful of Democratic activists created alarming, but bogus data sets to scare local and state officials into making rash, economy-killing mandates.

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/inaccurate-virus-models-are-panicking-officials-into-ill-advised-lockdowns/

  77. mh

    C.L., aren’t nearly all of our COVID-19 cases and deaths related to cruises?

  78. calli

    Aaand she got back with her own money under her own steam. No bleating to Daddy Grubbermint to “save her”.

  79. C.L.

    Trump has demonstrated the best strategy of any elected leader.
    & he’s done this against the non-stop attacks from the media.
    & he’s been right.
    Ex Manhattan & a nursing home in Washington state, the US has almost the best stats on the planet.

    Yep.
    Democrat shitholes NYC and big city California are the biggest problems.

  80. Shy Ted

    Welcome home, Lizzie. A practical demonstration showing the elites how full of shot they are.

  81. NoFixedAddress

    Welcome home Lizzie and Hairy

  82. Good morning all.
    Do you think Dan Andrews was relieved to hear that 2 elderly punters met their maker? Maybe got hard in the pants? He needed these deaths to justify his complete and utter disregard for businesses, for freedoms. He cares nothing for anything he doesn’t see in a mirror. Stage 3 is now a formality because of these deaths. And yet a majority of Victoriastan punters thought he was best placed to run the state. FMD.
    And you know you are in a shit state of affairs if you don’t even know your local member for Federal Parliament. Was Andrew Broad before his misdemeanors. Time almost for a Carlton Draught.

  83. Dr Faustus

    with some wondering about the 15 million cancelled phones because bills not paid for a month .

    The reason is possibly more prosaic than 15 million hidden deaths.

    It’s very common for PRC Chinese to use multiple phones, one (or more) for work, one for personal use, sometimes one for extracurricular personal use (according to Chinese colleagues). Many Chinese mobile handsets are designed to take two SIM cards for this reason.

    It’s a low trust thing.

    The Chinese are fiercely money conscious and many will have cancelled (or allowed to default) one, or more of these parallel accounts because lockdown.

  84. rickw

    I wonder if these Leviathans may not have had their day.

    I think putting turrets and big guns on them would help open up new markets.

    Imagine a cruise on the Mighty Mo plinking at Somali Pirates.

  85. Johno

    OPTUS just sent me a text telling me to wash my hands. That’s nice of them.

  86. mh

    OPTUS just sent me a text telling me to wash my hands. That’s nice of them.

    Maybe they are watching you, Johno.

  87. Dr Faustus

    Do you think Dan Andrews was relieved to hear that 2 elderly punters met their maker?

    In line, but slightly off track, I’m noticing that specific instances of young people contracting, requiring ICU, and dying (in this instance young = 50 y.o.) are becoming newsworthy.

    I’m thinking narrative shaping: it’s everyones‘ Andromeda Strain, not just the elderly…

  88. Sinclair Davidson

    MTR was good but you couldn’t hear it in many parts of the city. For example I couldn’t get signal driving down Flemington Road!

  89. feelthebern

    Seriously, if the national guard blocked off Manhattan (think Bane-style in the third Batman), the US would be safer.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Welcome home Lizzie.

    Apologies for not replacing the toilet rolls and butter.

  91. Mater

    Israel is not doing ok. It is doing as ok as Australia.

    11 dead? I’ll take those odds, Boris.

    Just for a bit of perspective:

    From their new positions the gunners had not fired even ranging rounds, but the infantry soon knew that the artillery was right on its targets. As the troops moved towards the wire very little enemy fire met them and much of what there was went well over their heads. But as the 2/3rd got near the anti-tank ditch, one chance salvo landed in the middle of Major J. N. Abbot’s ‘C’ Company, killing or wounding an Officer and twenty men.”

    Tobruk 1941: Capture-Siege-Relief, Chester Wilmot, published 1944.

    Just one friendly fire incident in the initial stages of the capture of Tobruk. 21 young men from one dropshort!
    Can we get a grip please?

    The time for hysterics may come later. We’ll see.

  92. feelthebern

    I don’t understand how Hong Kong hasn’t blown apart.
    So densely populated.

  93. The Beer Whisperer

    Global Warmings Ghost
    #3376741, posted on March 26, 2020 at 9:46 am
    Here is a pretty good representation of what we might think of as the DHS, Struth et al theory. While I think, as a best guess, there is a pretty serious underlying virus, its very important to understand what Jon is saying. Because without very good testing there is no science behind this. Meaning also no good way to work out where the original infection began. What seems as self-evident turns out to be not that way at all. I don’t think it is HIV all over again, but its all smoke. No clarity.

    Some value there, but too conspiratorial without evidence.

    Firstly, the statistical methodologies are inconsistent. COVID-19 should have the same statistical methodology as every other infectious disease, but it doesn’t. The flu is a projected mortality rate, but COVID-19 is CASE mortality rate, which is useless apart from propaganda purposes.

    Secondly, his claim of it being an existing virus is disproven by its genetic code vs other viruses.

    Still, scepticism is always warranted, now so more than ever. I think leftistm is mostly subconscious. They actually do believe their own shit. On most cases.

  94. Dr Faustus

    And we are supposed to take the Greens seriously?

    Oh yes.
    Healthy social distancing is very important.

  95. areff

    Likewise, Williamstown, Doomlord. Reasonable signal in the night, when they were running Sydney fare, but fickle when the sub was up.

    3AW really is shocking. Bring back Philip Brady!

  96. areff

    3AW’s finest hour (and best prank caller):

  97. mh

    If the economy has to be shut down for six months over COVID-19, why the hell is Lizzie at home “safe and sound” following a recent overseas cruise and not in forced quarantine?

  98. Gab

    Hi Lizzie – glad you’re back safe and sound.

  99. calli

    Refugees flee PonyGirlLand.

    I wonder what it’s like down at Albury/Wodonga?

  100. JC

    feelthebern
    #3376807, posted on March 26, 2020 at 10:38 am

    I don’t understand how Hong Kong hasn’t blown apart.
    So densely populated.

    Have a read of this. I posted it last night. Oxford reckons 50% of the British public may test positive and never knew. Maybe that’s what happened in Honkers.

    Fin times piece.

    The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.

    If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.

    “We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said.

    The modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group indicates that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest. Like many emerging infections, it spread invisibly for more than a month before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February.

    The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta.

    However, she was reluctant to criticise the government for shutting down the country to suppress viral spread, because the accuracy of the Oxford model has not yet been confirmed and, even if it is correct, social distancing will reduce the number of people becoming seriously ill and relieve severe pressure on the NHS during the peak of the epidemic.

    The Oxford study is based on a what is known as a “susceptibility-infected-recovered model” of Covid-19, built up from case and death reports from the UK and Italy. The researchers made what they regard as the most plausible assumptions about the behaviour of the virus.

    The modelling brings back into focus “herd immunity”, the idea that the virus will stop spreading when enough people have become resistant to it because they have already been infected. The government abandoned its unofficial herd immunity strategy — allowing controlled spread of infection — after its scientific advisers said this would swamp the National Health Service with critically ill patients.

    But the Oxford results would mean the country had already acquired substantial herd immunity through the unrecognised spread of Covid-19 over more than two months. If the findings are confirmed by testing, then the current restrictions could be removed much sooner than ministers have indicated.

    Although some experts have shed doubt on the strength and length of the human immune response to the virus, Prof Gupta said the emerging evidence made her confident that humanity would build up herd immunity against Covid-19.

    To provide the necessary evidence, the Oxford group is working with colleagues at the Universities of Cambridge and Kent to start antibody testing on the general population as soon as possible, using specialised “neutralisation assays which provide reliable readout of protective immunity,” Prof Gupta said. They hope to start testing later this week and obtain preliminary results within a few days.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sinclair, I think this crisis will accelerate the move towards smaller ships, which are easier to hygienically maintain and disembark into isolation if necessary. Smaller ships are a trend among the middle classes which was happening anyway.

    With luck you should be ok to take up your bookings as planned. I told my still fit and feisty 99 year old aunt that we had a free Panama cruise now if taken in the next 12 months, so we would try to attend her 100th birthday post-cruise. This is after having had a short free cruise to Mexico with full refund on our 17 day Panama expectations.

    The cruise lines are doing it tough and being very fair given the circumstances. Support them.

  102. win

    I am pleased to announce we had a full quota of remnant staff in yesterday. All following mandatory social distancing procedures.
    The Printer was isolated from the off sider by 5 decks of a 10 colour press ,both isolated from Miss Haversham of the Bindery by a building and all separated by a building and stairs from accounts and office.

  103. JC

    Does anyone have a grasp of the Spanish flu period? Was there any heightened level of panic in the population affected as there is now?

  104. Johno

    Every time I see some half wit gurning me in future I will remember this skit.

  105. Roger

    I think leftistm is mostly subconscious.

    I’m gravitating toward the view that prog-lefitsm is more of a social than a political phenomenon, although it plays out in the political sphere because the Left has made everything these days political, even sport.

    Bereft of an inner moral compass shaped by tradition and the robust identity that goes with it, lefties derive their identity from their social group. Hence political positions are adopted not because they have been thought through or because they offer solutions, but because they are shared by the group. Virtue signalling declares one’s membership of the group. Social media magnifies all of this tremendously.

    The worst fate imaginable in this world is ostracism because of dissent from the group position. In fact, that is the path to freedom.

  106. Old School Conservative

    seems we can’t even make something simple like dumbbells in the west

    Saw plenty at Parliament House.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t you just love epidemiological models? As someone with training in epidemiology I said at the start the models were only as good as the denominator and other assumptions made. If anything, this scientific modelling crisis should give many more pause to critique the climatic modelling and arrant nonsense that has stood for adequate data in this field too. Economic destruction on a whim and a curve is rather like depending on a wing and a prayer. A matter of luck, or foolishness.

  108. EvilElvis

    Well may we say social distancing will save a life,
    Because nothing will save the Australian economy!

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yep. So true, Roger. When the bully boys of the tribe are out to get you then you must be doing something right. Thinking for yourself maybe. 🙂

  110. Oh come on

    Kathy Griffin slams Trump’s coronavirus response while in hospital with ‘unbearably painful’ symptoms

    Now she knows how audiences feel after having to sit through one of her shows.

  111. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Welcome back, Lizzie and Hairy. Must have been quite an adventure in these times of mass hysteria.

  112. Zatara

    Does anyone have a grasp of the Spanish flu period? Was there any heightened level of panic in the population affected as there is now?

    Wouldn’t the difference in communications have slowed any real panic?

    Half the people who died of it may not have even known what they died of.

  113. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Kathy Griffin … in hospital with ‘unbearably painful’ symptoms

    Woo-hoo! Another good news story.

  114. jupes

    We arrived home safe and sound yesterday on one of the last flights into Sydney after completing some of our holiday agenda.

    Well done Lizzie and Hairy.

    It’s always good to have an adventure.

  115. Geriatric Mayfly

    Asked the plump guard yesterday, if THAT woman inside the DIY checkout (pointing) was going to keep her social distance. Blank look. To unravel this complexity, I said she may have the virus. Blank look.
    What I meant was, I just hope she’d die, her last words being ‘Place Item On Scale.’

  116. The Beer Whisperer

    Roger
    #3376825, posted on March 26, 2020 at 10:53 am
    I think leftistm is mostly subconscious.

    I’m gravitating toward the view that prog-lefitsm is more of a social than a political phenomenon, although it plays out in the political sphere because the Left has made everything these days political, even sport.

    Absolutely true, Roger. I’m on the right because I am a non-conformist at heart. Some of them really are fantasists, particularly women. To them, a world where everyone is nice is possible, if only we did things differently.

  117. JC

    Obviously comms would have slowed everything , Zat. Word of mouth in the surrounding areas hit by it would traveled quickly though.

  118. Geriatric Mayfly

    Kathy Griffin … in hospital with ‘unbearably painful’ symptoms

    Terminating a phantom pregnancy.

  119. C.L.

    Economic destruction on a whim and a curve …

    I may end up pinching that.

  120. Mother Lode

    OPTUS just sent me a text telling me to wash my hands. That’s nice of them.

    I the post-Coronaviral world what we are seeing now will be rich pickings for satirists and comics.

    > Phone companies sending out advisories telling people to check their phones for advisories

    > Political leaders sending out cheques to give people more spending money, then closing down all the places they would have spent the money

    > SWAT teams crashing through doors and windows to arrest people in apartment complexes who met on the stairwell for anti-social socialising, and then seated together in the paddy wagon

    > Elder citizens telling their great grandkids of how things used to be, but being a little fuzzy on details such as how they recollect great feasts of toilet paper so grand and varied that you would have to take an extra large steak to wipe your butt when you went to the toilet

    and so on.

    Of course, all we will likely get is TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

  121. mh

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3376712, posted on March 26, 2020 at 9:14 am
    The immediate reversal of the 30 minute haircut rule for chicks does nothing except reinforce the proposition that this entire fiasco is about superficial hand-waving and absolutely nothing about reducing potential transmission vectors and dying Australians.

    Do Morrison and his advisors believe that keeping it to 30 minutes reduces the risk of virus spreading?

    If they do, then Morrison has to explain why women’s hairstyling is so vitally important to the nation that they are willing to risk the increase in the spread of COVID-19.

  122. jupes

    Does anyone have a grasp of the Spanish flu period? Was there any heightened level of panic in the population affected as there is now?

    I doubt it, they had just got through WW1. Pretty hardy population back in the day.

  123. P

    Lizzie, good to hear you have returned safely.

    Alan Jones on 2GB this morning:
    Leading scientist explains how long people can be sick with coronavirus

  124. cohenite

    But consider the test? Can it really consistently separate one corona virus from another? Maybe it can? Would they tell us either way?

    Maybe we should test you.

  125. Ellie

    Welcome home, Lizzie! ❤

  126. Ellie

    I am totally discombobulated!

  127. Roger

    Yep. So true, Roger. When the bully boys of the tribe are out to get you then you must be doing something right. Thinking for yourself maybe.

    Welcome back safe and sound, Lizzie.

  128. C.L.

    New Forum ship just docked, folks.

  129. EvilElvis

    The immediate reversal of the 30 minute haircut rule for chicks does nothing except reinforce the proposition that this entire fiasco is about superficial hand-waving and absolutely nothing about reducing potential transmission vectors and dying Australians.

    Wtf?!? Have they gone back on that already? After one day and Morrison looking across the war desk at the harridans dispensing advice?

    Absolute crock #justiceforbarre

  130. Zatara

    Some interesting history regarding the Spanish Flu of 1918 from the Washington Examiner.

    Schools, churches, businesses, and movie theaters were closed for weeks. Train service was drastically reduced, making stores run low on food and essential goods as a result. When postal workers got sick, mail delivery ground to a halt. Funerals were held outdoors in hope the fresh air would protect mourners from the virus. It didn’t.

    More than 200,000 people lined Philadelphia’s streets for a massive Liberty Loan Parade one morning in September 1918. Hundreds of them were dying by nightfall.

    Some state legislatures even passed laws that made spitting a crime to halt the spread. Again, it didn’t.

    Everywhere you looked, there were masks. Young, old, middle-aged — everyone wore a white gauze mask over their nose and mouth. A few cities enacted laws mandating their usage, though some people openly resisted wearing them. Virology was in its infancy then, so folks didn’t realize gauze masks were useless.

    Numbers tell the ultimate story. There were 105 million people in the U.S. at the time — 675,000 of them died from the flu, more than were killed in World War I. In all, the illness killed some 20 million people worldwide.

    Hopefully the numbers won’t be as bad this time but interesting to see how they attempted to deal with it in 1918 and how many things are being re-learned. Govts will still knee-jerk in lame attempts to ‘do something’.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    mh, we are in 14 days of home quarantine ex-airport which we signed on a voluntary form of agreement to maintain. It should have been a mandatory agreement, imho. We will stick to it, but many probably won’t. Our kids are provisioning us although Hairy is looking forward to making inroads on my stored tins of Spam while he has the excuse. Woolies are also being very helpful re home delivery to aged (lol) isolaters such as us. I have a skipping rope and weights for exercise and some dance routines on CD.

    Re the pre-war preps the virus is said to make in the throat and general URT, I thought it wise during air travel to suck on antiseptic lozenges and rub nasal tissues with Nasalite, a post-op nasal antiseptic. Seems to have worked for us. Made the wine taste filthy but the alcohol in it still worked its usual blissful magic. The skin on my hands has suffered from alcohol abuse though, likewise my boringly clipped naked nails, which are cracking under the sanitizing strain. 🙂

  132. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Welcome back, LizzieB. All the best.

  133. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Alcohol sanitizers do bring up my diamond rings to their sparkling best though, so it’s not all bad. 😀

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks Zulu, Gab and others. A busy 2 weeks ahead for me now though. I have made promises.

  135. Roger

    Absolutely true, Roger. I’m on the right because I am a non-conformist at heart. Some of them really are fantasists, particularly women. To them, a world where everyone is nice is possible

    I’ve long looked at the world through a theological lens. Not everyone gets that but everyone has a theology whether they know it or not; the crucial question is whether it is good or bad theology.

    Be that as it may, if you believe in the condition of original sin you’ll never fall for Socialism. As the Articles of Religion of the CofE put it, “man is very far gone from original righteousness, and is of his own nature inclined to evil”. If anyone thinks that’s not the case consider the will to power and self-centredness a two year old can display!

    That doesn’t mean that every person is as evil as they can be; most aren’t, thankfully, because evil is held in check by internal (an informed conscience, the will to suppress evil and do good) and external (the fear of being punished) powers. But it does mean that man is not perfectible and neither is society. So a world where everyone is as nice as possible is indeed not possible.

    I’d settle for more civility, though, but that’s another thing entirely.

    Cheers, Beery!

  136. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Top Ender at 8:08 am:

    “Interesting letter in the Oz:

    Nomads on the road home could find themselves in limbo”

    “During this time of stress I would like to show Scott Morrison how well his team consisting of state and territory leaders is working [because I know how to manage 24 million people in the face of a sudden and dynamic crisis].

    As 73-year-olds on a round Australia caravanning trip, we find ourselves on the NSW south coast now needing to return home [Needing or wanting to return home? as Roger notes at 0950] in Western Australia. But that’s not so easy.

    While I accept the PM’s efforts are for the good of everyone it seems that somewhere, something is wrong [run for election and have a crack yourself, entertain me sport].

    P. Edwards, Safety Bay, WA”

    P. Edwards can get stuffed for a start.

    The virus has been front page since early January. These fools fiddled about for weeks at 57 kilometres per hour and created the situation “we find ourselves” in. Governments, medical experts and hospitals have been all over the news and on special broadcasts communicating yet this pair have not felt the need to listen and act on that information.

    They are self absorbed whingers, nothing more – a now deeply embedded characteristic of modern Australians.

    The authorities ought to have them serve a double term of quarantine at each one of their three border stops, seize all their potentially contaminated food and haul them before the nearest ATM to ensure that their predicted “considerable cost” becomes a reality.

  137. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare at 11:23 am:

    “Alcohol sanitizers do bring up my diamond rings to their sparkling best though, so it’s not all bad. 😀 “

    Fabulous! For Pete’s sake duck Elizabeth, incomingssss. 😉

  138. Geriatric Mayfly

    Charles met Brandis before positive test

    Could be any malignant bug then.

  139. Farmer Gez

    Pssst….I’ve heard a rumour.

    Sources tell me a certain publican in Northern Vic town, let’s call it Donald, has refused to close his doors and the Fed Police are currently paying him a visit.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Re closing the beach, I agree it was overkill if it was only the beach. But I put up commentary here re the Spring Break crowding we drove through in Miami South Art Deco, calling it out as incubation central. People of all ages, majority under 30, hugging and gathering. Florida Health thought the same and that night closed all celebratory bars, clubs and beach life down, including the beach, trying to stress to the young that they too could get it and spread it. That this sent them all home in droves to infect the oldies may have been an unintended consequence, but better than the alternative of creating thousands of super-spreader asymptomatics in that Satyricon going on there.

  141. Mindfree

    What concerns me is this could be the start of a repeating process. Seeing how successfully destructive this has turned out, the enemies (China, world govt advocates…) can try this again. Scenario, in 6 months all panic, restrictions have been lifted as the virus is now contained and the public are given the all clear. People start to associate again with cafes, restaurants, sporing events and theatres re-opening.

    What it would take for someone (an paid agent, a whoops – we had another leak) to pass on the virus again or even another more virulent strain to restart the panic and economic chaos all over again, how many of these occurrences are required to totally wipe out western economic and civilization for that matter?

    What lessons have our “leaders” learned that the same dire circumstances would not be repeated. What risk mitigation strategies are in place going forward? From what I’ve seen, these incompetent fools would only ensure they themselves are all OK?

    Rinse and repeat, this could be the start of bio warfare that would be a lot more damaging than anything the scum activists decrying human induced climate change could imagine their wildest dreams. Having said that both would result in which they would welcome (Zero emissions anyone?) with the exception of a number of very sick people and the economic and social wipeout which would also adversely affect them.

    Just sayin’ and maybe this is what is really behind the panic!

    Now back to work

  142. Calli:

    While our despicable Vice Chancellors bent over backwards to import their poxy human paypackets, their fellow countrymen were plundering-by-buying our limited resources to remedy/inhibit/treat the very thing their country set loose.

    I was thinking of the entire scenario and late last night, couldn’t sleep because headache. While the WZV can be put down to simple carelessness/illegal behaviour by WZV staff, one particular incident has been nagging at me for nearly a week. The repatriation of Taiwanese people back home from China, and the substitution of sick non Taiwanese people for some of them.
    It seems to stand out, for some reason.
    I’ll keep working at this knot, and will get back to youse when I make headway..

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ducking now, Mick. Thanks for the heads-down. 🙂

  144. Mater

    Sources tell me a certain publican in Northern Vic town, let’s call it Donald, has refused to close his doors and the Fed Police are currently paying him a visit.

    Those damned Kulaks!

  145. Farmer Gez

    LA International Airport
    where the COVID virus roams
    LA International Airport
    Fourteen days stuck at home.

  146. Annie!

    Joe Biden tests negative for President of the United States.

    Haha.

  147. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mostly we are able to be self-sufficient in food and with help from our kids will mostly leave Woolies home deliveries to those in more need of it than we are. Good to see though that the supermarkets are coping well so far.

  148. Peter the old fossil

    Good to see though that the supermarkets are coping well so far.

    I guess that’s one way of putting it.
    Personally I would have gone with “laughing all the way to the bank”.

  149. egg_

    See anything in common?

    Yes, that’s it: NATIONAL SERVICE!

    Unlike the bedwetting mummy bloggers, who are likely spreading the virus.

  150. GWG:

    I’m more thinking about the next infection as well. About defence policy more generally. I don’t want to second guess the Prime Minister. But we cannot put up with this economic closure again. Or the politicians having the power to foist it on us. They closed the beach. Closed the damn beach. Sterilising sun, seawater, vitamin D production. The very picture of a healthy environment.

    Good bloody luck with Civil Defence. Its successor is all about gender equality, meetings with stakeholders, Wymminses at risk in emergencies, meetings with stakeholders, and advisory consultation.

  151. egg_

    An Italian mayor has suggested using drones to shout profanities at people ignoring stay-at-home rules for the containment of the coronavirus outbreak.

    Does the stupid multiply in a crisis?
    There’s always an idiot on every panel – too bad, if it’s the Leader.

  152. Geriatric Mayfly

    Stay. Away. From. The. Queen.
    Homeopathy’s Royal Test
    Prince Charles, now diagnosed with coronavirus, is a big fan of homeopathic remedies. Just last year the oddball Prince became the patron of a British homeopathy group.
    Blair

    Some old crone from the hovel in woods scouring the Highlands at this minute for ragwort, pennyroyal, hemlock, wolf-bane, catnip and assorted fungi to brew for the Royal bedtime elixir.

  153. egg_

    But the doctors’ wives neeeeeed their roots done.

    Didn’t the doctors get the memo?

    The lead shrieking Doctor is an Arab with bleached blonde hair, natch.

  154. egg_

    Some old crone from the hovel in woods scouring the Highlands at this minute for ragwort, pennyroyal, hemlock, wolf-bane, catnip and assorted fungi to brew for the Royal bedtime elixir.

    And wing of bat?

  155. egg_

    No talking to trees for 2 weeks for Chuck.
    Will the forest notice?

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Wealthy couple return from skiing with coronavirus then do not self-isolate
    An Australian couple infected while at Aspen have been the subject of repeated police complaints after they allegedly flouted advice to self-isolate.

    Name and shame.

    We have certainly learnt in the past few months that people who ski and people who enjoy cruise ships, are filthy and depraved degenerates who do not belong in a civilized society.

  157. egg_

    Terrifying new research shows 10,000 Australians under 30 could DIE in a best case scenario

    Cvnts should be gaolled for printing stuff like that in an alleged pandemic.

  158. Geriatric Mayfly

    Terrifying new research shows 10,000 Australians under 30 could DIE in a best case scenario

    Looks like the computers have been at it again. Shit in, shit out.

  159. egg_

    In a week or so when government starts illogically dropping hints that it wants to walk away from all of this. Just let them do it without a big fuss.

    My bet is that ScoMo retires to Abbott’s bunker.
    Where will the shrieking Medicos be then – on Teh Dumb?
    The country will be lead by Jane Caro on The Dumb?

  160. Peter the old fossil

    Prince Charles, now diagnosed tested positive with coronavirus

    FIFY
    Big difference.

  161. egg_

    While our despicable Vice Chancellors bent over backwards to import their poxy human paypackets,

    But, but… aren’t the leaders of our Education paragons of virtue?
    Education IS the enlightenment, after all?

  162. Sinclair Davidson

    There is a new thread.

  163. Megan

    Welcome home Lizxie and Hairy. A holiday for the ages.

  164. Peter the old fossil

    Education IS the enlightenment, after all?

    Too true, Egg.
    But what has that got to do with an Australian “university”?

  165. Megan

    Missed the new thread by this much!

  166. egg_

    26000 people turned up at gps and hospitals in Victoria certain they’re dying from coronavirus.

    Duly tested.

    466 actually have it.

    25000 have the flu.

    0 dead from coronavirus. Nobody cares how many dead from the flu.

    The Hunchback knows it’s benign?
    Nothing to lose with stern measures, is there?

  167. twostix

    But look at Italy!

    Yes. Let’s.

    The Italian city of Genoa is so overrun with wild boars that the authorities have given permission for them to be shot.

    🤣

    Italy and Australia are exactly the same! We’re sure to be next!

  168. Mater asked at 6:41 am, “Who doesn’t agree that our current ‘leaders’ could have done with a year or two of doing Military Appreciations, Risk Assessments and Cost/Benefit Analyses?”

    Fair go Mater! Why should MPs have to be trained in those things?

    Judging by our obscene submarine dilemma, the lack of fuel for our armoured vehicles and an absence of useful jet interceptors, our admirals, generals and air marshals don’t have to study Military Appreciations, let alone Risk Assessments.

  169. JC

    Italy and Australia are exactly the same! We’re sure to be next!

    I’m not sure. They’re all anti-vaxxers and organic’ers by all accounts. It’s not as bad here yet.

  170. candy

    I wonder if anti vaxxers, those not completely vaccinated, are more susceptible to corona because they are just generally more susceptible.

  171. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare at 10:17 am:

    “We arrived home safe and sound yesterday … We will miss the cruise ships sailing by of course, huge mist-wreathed swans in a calm dawn or a towering fairyland of lights at night on dark waters. I wonder if these Leviathans may not have had their day.”

    Much like African African Congressman-child Hank Johnson¹ on Guam “My fear is that the whole island the bloody things will become so overly populated that it are so top heavy that they will tip over and capsize”.

    Just to stumble up the gangway to have a look I’d want to be convinced they have a heavily loaded keel 1½ times as deep as the height above water!

    ¹ Hank does have a low centre of intellectual gravity, I know, I know.

  172. JC

    I wonder if anti vaxxers, those not completely vaccinated, are more susceptible to corona because they are just generally more susceptible.

    I read Italians have the lowest flu vax in Europe. You could get the flu and the China bug at the same. Then you’re potentially well and truly fucked.

  173. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From T29E at 1:09 pm:

    “…
    Judging by our obscene submarine dilemma, the lack of fuel for our armoured vehicles and an absence of useful jet interceptors, our admirals, generals and air marshals don’t have to study Military Appreciations, let alone Risk Assessments.”

    They alone should have crafted a campaign against closure of our oil refineries in favor of just 3¼ days of gasoline storage, or whatever monumentally stupid storage capacity we are expected to believe.

    That characteristic alone means Australia is rooted.

  174. Chris

    Great to see you home Lizzie!
    You will hardly know the place.

  175. It’s Remarkable

    Clearly the greatest employment growth will be in Auslang (you know the hand waving, facial twisting) signers that accompany every pollie or other emergency spokesperson. They seem to now be obligatory on every TV broadcast no matter how superficial it might be.
    They are (to me) enormously distracting, distracting from what is actually being said, and the furious signalling often appears quite unrelated to what is being said.
    And, don’t deaf people have TV’s with sub-titles.
    Anyway, we may have a “Auslang-led recovery”. Demand for their services will never end at this rate.

  176. Helen

    Welcome home Lizzie and Hairy, good to know you are back, safe and sound.

  177. jo

    On the lighter side Coronian Rhapsody. Enjoy

  178. 8th Dan

    Barre, pronounced bar-ray

    No … its pronounced “bar”.

    And by the bye … I believe I was the first to ping Porter as being None.

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