Thursday Forum: March 26, 2020

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  1. C.L.

    Thread infected.
    Watch the opinions spread.

  2. Tom

    Wow! Top 10 on the daily open fred.

  3. JohnJJJ

    Interesting conversations : Nassim Taleb and Yaneer on the virus
    https://youtu.be/LX_bqMQfWlw

  4. Tom

    Roger on the old fred:

    Bereft of an inner moral compass shaped by tradition and the robust identity that goes with it, lefties derive their identity from their social group. Hence political positions are adopted not because they have been thought through or because they offer solutions, but because they are shared by the group. Virtue signalling declares one’s membership of the group. Social media magnifies all of this tremendously.

    The worst fate imaginable in this world is ostracism because of dissent from the group position. In fact, that is the path to freedom.

    Simple and brilliant.

  5. Zatara

    Some interesting history regarding the Spanish Flu of 1918 from the Washington Examiner.

    Schools, churches, businesses, and movie theaters were closed for weeks. Train service was drastically reduced, making stores run low on food and essential goods as a result. When postal workers got sick, mail delivery ground to a halt. Funerals were held outdoors in hope the fresh air would protect mourners from the virus. It didn’t.

    More than 200,000 people lined Philadelphia’s streets for a massive Liberty Loan Parade one morning in September 1918. Hundreds of them were dying by nightfall.

    Some state legislatures even passed laws that made spitting a crime to halt the spread. Again, it didn’t.

    Everywhere you looked, there were masks. Young, old, middle-aged — everyone wore a white gauze mask over their nose and mouth. A few cities enacted laws mandating their usage, though some people openly resisted wearing them. Virology was in its infancy then, so folks didn’t realize gauze masks were useless.

    Numbers tell the ultimate story. There were 105 million people in the U.S. at the time — 675,000 of them died from the flu, more than were killed in World War I. In all, the illness killed some 20 million people worldwide.

    Hopefully the numbers won’t be as bad this time but interesting to see how they attempted to deal with it in 1918 and how many things are being re-learned. Govts will still knee-jerk in lame attempts to ‘do something’.

  6. calli

    I dedicate this fred to Queen Elizabeth, now returned safely to harbour…views.

    😷🎉🥂

    Oh. And her hirsute vassal. 🥃

  7. woolfe

    Keeping social distance

  8. In times like these we need knights to don their armour and go forth in search of damsels in distress, fight off the evil dragons and rescue the damsels.

    from the “Stimpsonian Handbook for Knights”

  9. Fleeced

    Worried about rels in UK. They are doing i t tough there. Have an uncle near death (pneumonia, not coronavirus) and he’s in lockdown, hasn’t been able to have visits from family for a week, and has dementia. Prays from fellow Cats are welcome.

    Hospitals in UK are turning patients away.

  10. Fleeced

    On a lighter note, Hillary Clinton has tested negative for President of the United States.

  11. pete m

    Is anyone surprised a mum wanting to go full term with her Downs baby was pressured to kill it instead?

    Read here her lovely story:

    I love how she shows off her son to the same people who said kill it.

    Brave woman.

  12. Infidel Tiger

    Worried about rels in UK. They are doing i t tough there. Have an uncle near death (pneumonia, not coronavirus) and he’s in lockdown, hasn’t been able to have visits from family for a week, and has dementia. Prays from fellow Cats are welcome.

    Hospitals in UK are turning patients away.

    The NHS sounds amazing.

  13. Zatara

    “Elbow Jobs $15”

    Thanks for the SH! Best laugh I’ve had in days.

  14. Ellie

    Why is our Doomlord, Master, Sir social distancing the threads? Please explain, Libertarians. 😘

  15. Fleeced

    The NHS sounds amazing.

    Oh, yes. The more I hear about how they’ve handled things, the angrier I get.

    When I say he’s in lockdown btw, I mean in hospital. The hospital is in lockdown. They don’t allow visitors.

  16. mh

    Ladies can now spend as long as they like at the hairdressers.

    The Prime Minister wants you to look your best.

  17. calli

    Cover your mouth when you cough, Ellie.

    And Fleeced. Done.

  18. Amadeus

    If I distance myself any further, I’ll be treading water in Moreton Bay…

  19. C.L.

    Will do, Fleeced.
    How many patients being “turned away” in Britain are rocking up with colds, though?

  20. Sinclair Davidson

    I am totally discombobulated!

    Stop bragging.

  21. Cardimona

    Premier Puddleduck just announced a weird partial closure of schools from next week.
    Some kids can go – if their parents are “essential” workers.
    Others can’t.
    FMD, what a pointless and hysterical move…

  22. made me laugh too, Zatara.

    Don’t tell Albo.

  23. Professor Fred Lenin

    Up there with the young uns (wishfull thinking ) .
    I am incarcerated in my village with enough food to withstand a six month siege,keep away you unclean devils keep away . I walk around the inner boundary road equivelant of four times around the oval,. Just back ,saw two cars no other walkers a bit like the end of days . Walking ,ya gotta use it or lose it mate .
    Just imagining what the Black Death was like years ago,,it claimed an ancestor aged 48 a wealthy clothier and two weeks later his wife aged 37, their six kids lived to old age for those days 70 to 78. I have copies of their wills amazingly preserved from 1578 beautifull writing with quill pens . I have another from 1678, all in Essex Archives must have an amazing collection there . I know my roots now thanks to a journalist cousin now retired.

  24. Tom

    Thanks for midweek pix, Some History. A word from health authorities.

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Phil Bak
    @philbak1
    ·
    6h
    Family friend, healthy male about 65 or 70, was about to go on ventilator last night for covid at NYC hospital. They gave him the new drug cocktail (hydroxychloroquine and whatever else), woke up this am breathing easily and no fever. Firsthand story.

  26. Ellie

    I could brag, but would be smited.

  27. Fleeced

    How many patients being “turned away” in Britain are rocking up with colds, though?

    There have been cases of people dying as a result, apparently. In fact, they were planning to send my uncle home, despite his condition, because “they’d already given him s many antibiotics as they could”. Seems they’re evicting people from their beds a bit early.

    I’m not sure how the lockdown affected that… he has been tested for coronavirus and it came back negative. Though being in hospital… Probably better if he was home. My cousin said, “If he’s going to die, we’d rather it was here with family rather than alone in hospital.” That’s a shocking thing to hear.

    I do wonder how many people who don’t need the beds are taking them up.

  28. Fleeced

    Family friend, healthy male about 65 or 70, was about to go on ventilator last night for covid at NYC hospital. They gave him the new drug cocktail (hydroxychloroquine and whatever else), woke up this am breathing easily and no fever. Firsthand story.

    Australia is apparently trialling this… I wonder if that’s why our death rates seem lower than the UK’s? Or is it something else?

  29. mh

    The Ponzi pushers are already up and running

    Headline at the Tele

    Coronavirus won’t kill us, but a lack of migration will.

  30. Pete of Perth

    Plague ship central over here in the west.

  31. Carpe Jugulum

    Forty Tooth 🦷

  32. Amadeus

    You can tell that the dimwits in bureaucracy are making up all the restrictions with gay abandon.
    Firstly, they announce a new curb, and before it even gets up and running, it’s superceded by something more far reaching and draconian – so we don’t have a clue if the first one actually might have done anything remotely helpful towards containing the virus.
    Secondly, they’re having a field day restricting the supply side without a clue as to whether it makes any sense, to wit, how long it takes for giving our girls and haircut. But never fear, Canberra will send you some money from the bottomless pit to have a shampoo and scalp massage along with the hair trim.
    And lastly, when we have Albersleezy and friends declaring the ABC (Albanese Bullshit Communications) is an essential service, we are able to emphatically confirm that the virus treatment is worse than the virus itself.

  33. EvilElvis

    Coronavirus won’t kill us, but a lack of migration will.

    FMD.

  34. Ellie

    Who doesn’t enjoy a good smiting.

  35. Ellie

    Let him back on, Doomlord. People with mental health issues need to be heard in these doomed times.

  36. Ellie

    All you old people have fallen asleep. Back to work.

  37. Some History

    You can tell that the dimwits in bureaucracy are making up all the restrictions with gay abandon.
    Firstly, they announce a new curb, and before it even gets up and running, it’s superceded by something more far reaching and draconian – so we don’t have a clue if the first one actually might have done anything remotely helpful towards containing the virus.
    Secondly, they’re having a field day restricting the supply side without a clue as to whether it makes any sense, to wit, how long it takes for giving our girls and haircut. But never fear, Canberra will send you some money from the bottomless pit to have a shampoo and scalp massage along with the hair trim.
    And lastly, when we have Albersleezy and friends declaring the ABC (Albanese Bullshit Communications) is an essential service, we are able to emphatically confirm that the virus treatment is worse than the virus itself.

    Federal and State governments could be setting themselves up for class action lawsuits, e.g., loss of earnings, loss of businesses, bankruptcy.

  38. areff

    The Prime Minister wants you to look your best.

    Brings this band to mind — one of the most underrated Oz bands ever. Always worth catching their irregular reunion tours. Last time I caught them, at Thornury Ballroom, they blew co-headliners Radio Birdman off the stage. That isn’t easy to do.

  39. Sinclair Davidson

    People with mental health issues need to be heard in these doomed times.

    I have a lot of sympathy with that position – unfortunately Graeme is too disruptive and destructive to allow onto the threads.

  40. Sinclair Davidson

    Gotta be quick.

    Story of our lives. 🙂

  41. Peter Finch

    Hopefully someone will organise the local generics manufacturers to produce lots of hydroxychloroquine but then again if its up to the quintessential team of the NSW health department and Ports Authority we can whistle Dixie.

  42. ProfessorFred Lenin

    I see “Stinking Rebellion “is crowing that the Chinese Virus is the cure to the human disease Mother Earth has , if being human makes you a germ therevis an exit for Anti Human Fascists , it’s called Assisted Euthanasia ,and it’s Taxpayer funded so there is no need for the taxpayer kept rebels to hesitate . Help heal Mother Earth top yourself for a cleaner world

  43. Infidel Tiger

    Australia is apparently trialling this… I wonder if that’s why our death rates seem lower than the UK’s? Or is it something else?

    Australia has a much better healthy system than most.

    We still largely live in suburbia, despite our betters attempts to dog box us.

    We have warm weather.

    I reckon that all helps.

    The lesson from this plague is that China must become a pariah state and that high density living must be limited.

  44. Anne

    #Building7DidntKillItself

  45. Cardimona

    Sky News Radio just announced a senior cit has died of the Wooflu at Toowoomba.
    Have we heard from our Inventnam vet today?

  46. Mindfree

    What concerns me is this could be the start of a repeating process. Seeing how successfully destructive this has turned out, the enemies (China, world govt advocates…) can try this again. Scenario, in 6 months all panic, restrictions have been lifted as the virus is now contained and the public are given the all clear. People start to associate again with cafes, restaurants, sporing events and theatres re-opening.

    What it would take for someone (an paid agent, a whoops – we had another leak) to pass on the virus again or even another more virulent strain to restart the panic and economic chaos all over again, how many of these occurrences are required to totally wipe out western economic and civilization for that matter?

    What lessons have our “leaders” learned that the same dire circumstances would not be repeated. What risk mitigation strategies are in place going forward? From what I’ve seen, these incompetent fools would only ensure they themselves are all OK?

    Rinse and repeat, this could be the start of bio warfare that would be a lot more damaging than anything the scum activists decrying human induced climate change could imagine their wildest dreams. Having said that both would result in which they would welcome (Zero emissions anyone?) with the exception of a number of very sick people and the economic and social wipeout which would also adversely affect them.

    Just sayin’ and maybe this is what is really behind the panic!

    Now back to work…created and posted this from last thread before this thread was created. Things move fast in these times

  47. Just a thought bubble…to annoy Bob.

    Suggestions for a form of National Service to assist in the current situation aren’t annoying, but they may not be practical.
    If instituted in conventional form, it would involve bringing a large group of people together for training which would immediately create the potential for infections.
    An alternative would have to be found.
    Some suggestions –
    1. An online or phone enabled registration process.
    2. A rapid assessment of critical need.
    3. A online survey of the registered group to determine location, skillset, capacity, and deployability.
    4. A matching of human resources (as determined by the surveys) with the critical needs.
    5. An assessment of the training needed. This would probably have to be quick and dirty, and much of it online. Perhaps a core of three training programmes – Human and health support/call centre protocols/driving and delivery protocols.
    3. A rapidly developed logistic capability capable of getting PPE to anyone working within the service where their work involves close physical contact.
    The ADF could be involved, especially personnel with experience/skill in rapid response and critical logistics.
    This is one situation where I would cheerfully volunteer, but I was knocked back the other day by Meals on Wheels because of my age.

  48. calli

    We still largely live in suburbia, despite our betters attempts to dog box us.

    Read McClymont’s SMH article up thread.

    These aren’t our “betters” by a long chalk. These are a’holes hand in glove with Party run development companies. No doubt using building material from that epicentre of quality control, the PRC.

    They need to go, and the string-pullers behind them.

    But Aldi bags.

  49. mh

    But never fear, Canberra will send you some money from the bottomless pit to have a shampoo and scalp massage along with the hair trim.

    Next thing True Thai will get the go ahead to re-open.

  50. Cardimona

    And just like that you need a Queensland government-issued “Border Pass” to visit.

  51. P

    Read McClymont’s SMH article up thread.

    Further to this HERE

  52. calli

    I’m trying to work out why morning church in an open paddock with everyone sitting far apart on deck chairs is forbidden.

    But sitting for hours in a crowded hairdressers with spray from the washbasins and hairdryers is a-okay.

    Am I missing something (besides my hastily shorn locks)?

  53. stevem

    Coronavirus won’t kill us, but a lack of migration will.

    The author uses the Dr honorific, but not sure what he’s a doctor of. His main thing is urban property development. It would seem that a little investigation reveals another pushing his own barrow…

  54. notafan

    I saw a lady sitting on a bench at local strip centre with her hair wrapped in glad wrap.

    If sensible arrangements can keep hairdressers off the dole queue good for them.

    Lots are sole traders in rented premises.

    I went to the dentist this morning, long standing appointment.

    No point in me wearing a mask, of course.

  55. Mater

    Suggestions for a form of National Service to assist in the current situation aren’t annoying, but they may not be practical.
    If instituted in conventional form, it would involve bringing a large group of people together for training which would immediately create the potential for infections.

    You had to frame it as being implemented under today’s restrictions to counter it?

    Piss weak.

  56. Ellie

    Where are all the abusers? Struth, KD et al. It’s no fun without you. It’s what the open forum is about – hating on each other.

  57. Ellie

    Succubus, I was called by Matrix. Are you still asleep?

  58. notafan

    I shall patronize my sloe trader hairdresser in a couple of weeks for a cut and colour, rule changes permitting.

    He owes me a free blow dry.

    Toilet paper in limited quantities available again this morning.

    And I baked for the first time in forever yesterday (not really as it was lemon slice)

    What is the world coming to?

  59. Sinclair Davidson

    Ellie – please no hating. We’re all being nice for the next while. Remember make love not war.

  60. calli

    Ellie, are you just wanting a stoush? Why? Are you bored at home?

  61. You had to frame it as being implemented under today’s restrictions to counter it?

    So you’re saying that the restrictions aren’t necessary?

    Pissweak….

  62. Ellie

    Calli – I am just calling the open forum for what it is. The bully boys are being silent. I want to hear from them.

  63. mh

    Remember make love not war.

    But no more than two people.

  64. calli

    The Beloved’s CPAP machine is a great social distancer. 😄

  65. Ellie

    Ellie – please no hating. We’re all being nice for the next while. Remember make love not war.

    Making love is so vanilla.

    But ok.

  66. notafan

    I think 1918 people were more religious, more accepting of untimely death and more realistic about life.

    child Saints Francisco and Jacinta of Fatima were promised early deaths, and they got them, from Spanish Influenza.

  67. Dr Faustus

    I’m trying to work out why morning church in an open paddock with everyone sitting far apart on deck chairs is forbidden.
    But sitting for hours in a crowded hairdressers with spray from the washbasins and hairdryers is a-okay.

    You obviously have no clue about how Advisor PowerPoint gets translated into policy through a rigorous process.
    Repeat “Couldn’t be clearer” 20 times.

  68. Sinclair Davidson

    Ellie, are you just wanting a stoush? Why? Are you bored at home?

    At least in the old days we had stoushes about things such as the evils of fractional reserve banking and whether various Catholic/Protestant martyrs were patriots or traitors.

    I had to google Succubus.

  69. Sinclair Davidson

    But no more than two people.

    Bigot.

  70. EvilElvis

    Day 1

    Dear diary,

    Had a sleep in this morning, woke up at 6.30am, bit weird but nice. Nice lazy breakfast outside looking at my green but neglected garden, plans formulating for stuff to do. Yard tidy up, garden spritz, give my motorbikes some love. Rain just started, thunder stormy, nice.

    Thumb still sore from sending love heart emojis to people commenting on the Facebook shutdown post. Mental note, close page.

    Get a text at 9am from business neighbour. Surprisingly she can’t unlock a shared gate that our shops share after losing the key. 3 years ago. And relying on the early starter to have it open every day. For the last 4 years. Not coming in anyway, RDO today. I wonder how the complex will deal with putting bins out, picking up people’s shit in general around the place and cleaning the toilet block. Time to get your hands dirty neighbours.

    Might jump in the hammock for a snooze later and Cat time. Shit, I forgot, I’ve got kids…

  71. Some History

    🙂 Batman past. I think these might be from the 1940s:

    https://imgur.com/ELkjqZ6

    https://imgur.com/zXMZ0RM

  72. liliana

    I guess Sydney airport didn’t get the memo about social distancing as passengers from diseased nations cram into the arrivals area and then disperse to infect us all. How many of the new arrivals even know they should “self-isolate” and how many will ?

    After the cruise ship debacle you would think all levels of government would lift their game and try and prevent further mistakes but not here in Australia where the congo line of cock up continues.

  73. notafan

    I participated in an online mass this morning Calli.

    Was much better than I anticipated.

    You should get your minister to do on line service Calli. You could even have livestreamed via an app but might cost.

    I shall have to set up my mother and sister so they can have online mass too.

  74. calli

    On line from Sunday, nota.

    My daughter’s started last week. The grandchildren had their own service. When she heard little voices singing, she crept away to look through the door. There they were, side by side, singing their little Sunday School songs.

  75. Mater

    Nice shift of the goal posts, Bob, and frankly I’m not sure why I’d try to explain anything to you but…

    My observation was that National Service (under standard conditions) might go some way to re-establishing a population who feels a little more united, even if it’s from the shared misery of NS. A population who has a connection with their fellow countrymen (and therefore less inclined to hoard dunny paper and send it to a third country). A population who understands a bit about of sacrifice, teamwork and deprivation. They might even get to understand that freedom isn’t actually free and that the world isn’t all rainbows and fairy dust.

    It might even help develop a resilient population who understands that the government won’t always ‘save their arse’ – quite the opposite in fact. Shit, they might even come away with some useful skills, pride and thinking of themselves as Australians. God forbid.

    Now go away. I’m not interested in someone who tried everything to get out of their obligation and, hence, force someone else to do it. Your self interested attitude is exactly what my concept would be trying to counter.

  76. EvilElvis

    I participated in an online mass this morning Calli.

    Was much better than I anticipated.

    Some of us have been partaking in online mass for years. It’s great!

  77. EvilElvis

    You should get your minister to do on line service Calli.

    Oops, my mistake. Carry on.

  78. Old School Conservative

    Happy to plug IGA (my local anyway) for great service during the Great Panic of 2020.
    Still issuing “single use” plastic bags – haven’t stopped.
    Lots of fresh food available every day.
    When they got deliveries of TP, they were giving them away, one roll per customer. Currently selling a new brand with jokes on the wrapping paper. Plenty of stock, limited to one per customer.
    Great staff.
    Lots of social distancing methods employed early.
    Open 6am to 9pm. As usual.

    I hope they lock in many more customers as regulars when this is over.

  79. twostix

    Five minutes ago all we heard was “Spanish Flu”, “Spanish Flu”, “1918!”.

    Then when it was obvious this not going to be anywhere near spanish flu (or even the last non-event global pandemic Swine Flu at this point) now it’s “but Italy!”.

    Italy is full of old people who live crammed on top of each other in mouldy old apartments in mouldy old garbage filled cities, who smoke and drink and kiss each other hello.

    As relevant to us as Wuhan is.

  80. mh

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3376982, posted on March 26, 2020 at 12:34 pm
    But no more than two people.

    Bigot.

    Reminds me, I wonder how Juan is doing.

  81. Infidel Tiger

    Wealthy couple return from skiing with coronavirus then do not self-isolate
    An Australian couple infected while at Aspen have been the subject of repeated police complaints after they allegedly flouted advice to self-isolate.

    Name and shame.

    We have certainly learnt in the past few months that people who ski and people who enjoy cruise ships, are filthy and depraved degenerates who do not belong in a civilized society.

  82. JC

    I heard in a podcast American Docs are prescribing the anti-mal for themselves and family. If this is the case, there’s a decent fucking chance the drug mix works and the downside is zero if you take.

  83. NoFixedAddress

    here you go Ellie

  84. Remember make love not war.

    If I’m going out to a virus, I don’t plan on leaving the world to spivs, politicians, public servants, ecoloons, scamsters and freeloaders (BIRM).

  85. egg_

    Welcome home Lizxie and Hairy.

    Hear! Hear!

  86. JC

    65% of these parasites are on some form of government transfer payment.

    “Go home,” is the message to non-Tasmanian residents from the state’s Premier, Peter Gutwein.

    The island state is effectively expelling nonresidents who are not in self-isolation; they must leave all accommodation by 11.59pm Sunday and return interstate.

    “Go home – I’m sorry to say that, but go home,” Mr Gutwein told visitors, via a press conference on Thursday morning.

  87. egg_

    Thankyou for our daily Fred?

  88. Anybody seen my nuke, I seem to have misplaced it.

  89. egg_

    “Go home,” is the message to non-Tasmanian residents from the state’s Premier, Peter Gutwein.

    Parasite State eschews virus, News at 11.

  90. MatrixTransform

    Where are all the abusers?

    look at you all pious after yesterday’s behaviour . tsk tsk

    Every victim needs a perp … perhaps you could stop provoking people Ellie?

    as a matter of fact your’e being provocative right now too … a bit sad to watch really

    just sayin’

  91. EvilElvis

    65% of these parasites are on some form of government transfer payment.

    With the new welfare regime they are suddenly Australia’s richest state.

  92. P

    🙂 Batman past. I think these might be from the 1940s:

    1943 – 1949 I believe.

    Batman and Robin (1949)
    Robert Lowery (Batman) and Johnny Duncan (Robin) make for an attention-getting (albeit, slightly wrinkled) “Dynamic Duo” in this 15 chapter serial produced by Columbia Pictures.

  93. Mother Lode

    owes me a free blow dry

    You know which businesses would be getting a free pass if Albanese was PM.

  94. Peter the old fossil

    I had to google Succubus

    In that case Doomlord, you’d better check out incubus as well.
    You wouldn’t want to be labeled sexist, would you?

  95. Infidel Tiger

    Trump’s approval ratings hit all-time high during coronavirus pandemic

    The development has astounded critics who expected Americans to judge Donald Trump harshly for his often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak.

    Schaudenboner.

  96. EvilElvis

    The development has astounded critics who expected Americans to judge Donald Trump harshly for his often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak.

    Misleading and erratic? FMD, hello Australia!

  97. Ellie

    Peter/MV – why are you not answering your phone? I am having my lunch break.

  98. egg_

    I heard in a podcast American Docs are prescribing the anti-mal for themselves and family. If this is the case, there’s a decent fucking chance the drug mix works and the downside is zero if you take.

    Unlike our screeching Neurologist Trainer, not at the forefront.

  99. Tekweni

    Eldest son made redundant. Engineer and projects he was working on have died. Does not seem perturbed. Catching up on early morning surfing on the Gold Coast. Surfing has always practiced social distances. Try dropping in on a wave to find out how surfers react!

  100. What are the odds of QLD suspending their upcoming election until the plague is obliterated?
    Like sometime after 2035?

  101. Farmer Gez

    Oh the humanity!

    ABC news report on overseas visa holders trapped without a job and no access to welfare.

    We hear from Camilla, a young Brazilian who’s here to do her masters in sociology and has lost her part time job. What will she do?

    Care factor – zero.

  102. mh

    Mother Lode
    #3377043, posted on March 26, 2020 at 1:12 pm
    owes me a free blow dry

    You know which businesses would be getting a free pass if Albanese was PM.

    Blow dry, not blow job.

  103. Peter the old fossil

    Mainly ‘cos it hasn’t rung, Lovely Lady. Give us a sec.

  104. Ellie

    …as a matter of fact your’e being provocative right now too … a bit sad to watch really

    just sayin’

    Don’t be sad. Just rely on the fact that us succubus women have ruined the fabric of society.

    Or was it the gays? 🤔

  105. Infidel Tiger

    You would not believe how many epidemiologists the Active Wear Mums are friends and relatives with.

    Astounding!

  106. egg_

    I guess Sydney airport didn’t get the memo about social distancing as passengers from diseased nations cram into the arrivals area and then disperse to infect us all. How many of the new arrivals even know they should “self-isolate” and how many will ?

    Then straight onto the Centrelink queues?

  107. twostix

    Trump’s approval ratings hit all-time high during coronavirus pandemic

    The development has astounded critics who expected Americans to judge Donald Trump harshly for his often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak.

    The 15 day promise did it.

  108. Armadillo

    Here is a weird unanticipated consequence of Coronavirus.

    With all the pubs/clubs plus other business closing their doors, “coin” has become a problem.

    These businesses are cleaning out their poker machines, vending machines and cash floats. They are dumping at the banks who have insufficient storage room to take it all. Companies like Armaguard are full to the brim.

    In addition, as we all know, cash is one of the “grubby” products that is most likely to transmit disease.

    It’s one of those consequences that no one even thought of. No doubt there is more unanticipated consequences like this that will pop up.

  109. John Comnenus

    Thanks for putting a bit of Ron Peno on the thread Areff. Agreed re how good and under rated Died Pretty are.

  110. egg_

    Active Wear Mums

    Are they Walmart mums or Gymshark yummie mummies?

  111. Armadillo

    It’s mainly the huge amount of coin (rather than notes) that is causing the problem.

  112. Infidel Tiger

    Stopping the pokies has probably been the biggest income boost to low income earners in 50 years.

    Take the excise of smokes and these guys will be riding high on the hog.

  113. JC

    Fuuuckk

    Economists have been racing to keep forecasts current, an almost impossible task considering the speed of contagion and the cascading efforts by officials and consumers to slow it. Predictions for unemployment and gross domestic product during the second quarter are quickly worsening.

    On Tuesday, economists at Morgan Stanley said they expect jobless claims for the most recent week (ended Saturday) to come in at 3.4 million—about five times the previous record.

    For historical perspective, the economists note that initial claims peaked at 695,000 in October 1982, and at 517,000 two weeks after Sept 11, 2001. The figure hit 570,000 in December 2008, following the disruptions around the collapse of Lehman Brothers, and peaked again at 665,000 in March 2009 during the financial crisis.

    Morgan Stanley’s jobless forecast is one of the most grim yet.

  114. Megan

    Mater @12:45

    And a standing ovation from me!

  115. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Fatty Trump’s approval ratings hit all-time high during moronavirus panicdemic

    If he forces a few more Darwin Award winners to imbibe fish tank cleaner he’ll be unassailable.

  116. calli

    Makes a change from Tide pods.

  117. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Fatty Trump’s often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak

    As opposed to the direct and methodical responses from Goose Morristeen, Dunderhead Dan, Pluckachook and Beryl Gladyschlocklian.

  118. Ellie

    If a J**ish community won’t stand up for themselves, who will? Stupid!

  119. Mother Lode

    Blow dry, not blow job.

    I am sure he would like the ministrations of lubricant lathering artiste until his little nodules were as shrunken and dry as anything found in a desert.

  120. egg_

    Fatty Trump’s approval ratings hit all-time high during moronavirus panicdemic

    If he forces a few more Darwin Award winners to imbibe fish tank cleaner he’ll be unassailable.

    The Kool Aid for bedwetters?

  121. candy

    I read Italians have the lowest flu vax in Europe. You could get the flu and the China bug at the same. Then you’re potentially well and truly fucked.

    The newest flu vaccine is available now. I don’t see the government and/or doctors pushing the importance of it particularly. Who knows how severe it could be, and top of what’s going around now with corona.

    anti vaxxers are so dumb.

  122. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Tide Pods

    Time to start a rumour on braindead social meeja that Tide Pods are an antidote to the Moronavirus.

  123. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From T29E at 1:09 pm on the old thread:

    “…
    Judging by our obscene submarine dilemma, the lack of fuel for our armoured vehicles and an absence of useful jet interceptors, our admirals, generals and air marshals don’t have to study Military Appreciations, let alone Risk Assessments.”

    These blokes should have overtly or covertly crafted a campaign against closure of our oil refineries in favor of just 3¼ days of gasoline storage, or whatever monumentally stupid storage capacity we are expected to believe.

    That characteristic alone means Australia is rooted.

  124. bespoke

    MatrixTransform
    #3377031, posted on March 26, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    Every victim needs a perp.

    But see what happen’s when you give it away free, they abuse it. 😎

  125. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Now that we are back isolated in our home, and all is well, and the interest in pandemics is high, I will offer again for interested readers/purchasers the details of an excellent book on the 1918-9 influenza epidemic, published first in NY in 2004 and in Penguin in 2005 with an afterword about the SARS epidemic 2003.

    An update following the Corona Virus epidemic is bound to follow.

    This book titled ‘The Great Influenza’ by John M Barry is a classic in the field of epidemics. It pays particular attention to the historical time sequence of the epidemic and the race against time being fought by the newest science and the heroic American medical scientist Paul Lewis at that time to comprehend and contain the contagion which killed between 20 and 50 million worldwide. Eskimos in Igloos died in their thousands of it, and so did tribespeople everywhere, as well as this very contagious epidemic taking a huge toll amongst the young and healthy even in advanced nations. It is a true drama of medical investigation and incipient virology; a great read too. Long on the NYT best-seller list, and both sober in its assessments and frightening in its conclusions about people dying ‘in a new and awful way’ when it was ‘only’ influenza.

    Anyone sensible would be worried about another world pandemic of a similar sort ever since. The stories in this book, as well as the medical motif of investigation that pervades it, shows clearly what might be expected when social systems break down or cities refuse to act. In this epidemic, Philadelphia presented the ‘do nothing’ case:

    “Philadelphia staggered under the influenza ttack, isolated and alone. In Philadelphia no sign surfaced of any national Red Cross and Public Health Service effort to help. No doctors recruited by the public health service were sent there. Those institutions gave no help here.

    Every day people discovered that friends and neighbours who had been perfectly health a week – or a day – earlier were dead. What should I do? People were panicked, desprate. How long will it go on? …

    The corpses had backed up at undertakers’, filling every area of those establishments and pressing up into living quarters; in hospital morgues overflowing into corridors; in the city morgue overflowing into the street. And they had backed up in homs. They lay on porches, in closets, in corners of the floor, oon beds. Children would sneak away from adults to start at them, to touch them; a wife wld lie next to a dead husband, unwilling to move him or leave him. The corpses, reminders f death and bringers of terror or grief, lay under ie at Indian-summer tempatures. Their presence was constant, a horror demoralizing the city; a horror that could not be escaped. Finally the city tried to catch up to them. ” The police and the army were called in to dig graves families were digging and to control the anger of the people.

    “Sometimes they collected the bodies in wagons. Selma Epp’s brother Daniel Died: ‘People were being placed on these horse-drawn wagons and my aunt saw the wagons pass by and he was placed on the wagon; everyone was too weak to protest. There were no coffins in the wagon but the people who had died were wrapped in a sort of sackcloth and placed in the wagon. One was on top of the other, there were so many bodies. They were drawn by horses and the wagons took the bodies away.’

    “No one could look at the trucks and carts carrying bodies – bodies wrapped in cloth stacked loosely on other bodies wrapped in cloth, arms and legs protruding, bodies heading for cemeteries to be buried in trenches – or hear the keening of the mourners and the call for the dead, and not think of another plague – the plague of the Middle Ages”.

    Worst of all, the incipient terror meant that people stopped volunteering to help each other, to care for orphaned children, or the sick. “The city was breaking apart”.

    This sort of worst-case is what I feared as I read (and saw via Zippy’s Twitter links) about what was on the cards in Wuhan. I stocked my cupboards for at least a two week isolation. We still have incomplete information about Wuhan. I saw neurological deficits caused by Corona, which were censored. I have since read that medically some did occur. Long-term lung damage can also occur. Thus we do need to be cautious, although on current indications we have a likely coming treatment and WILL get a vaccine, even if it has to be changed yearly, as influenza does. The two treatment drugs are used widely in Africa, so may help keep this virus under control there.

    So far, SARS CoV2 may be letting us get off lightly targeting mainly the aged and already infirm.

    We may not always be so lucky. Barry’s book has rightly been called ‘terrifying’. My view is that we should always be prepared. I would think the Covid 19 experience and the uncertainty of data regarding such an epidemic would turn all policy makers right away from green climatic invented and non-substantiated threats and direct them into an immediate state of constant preparation for any serious world pandemic.

  126. egg_

    Blow dry, not blow job.

    I am sure he would like the ministrations of lubricant lathering artiste until his little nodules were as shrunken and dry as anything found in a desert.

    Pollie muppets are probably suffering from Activewear blow-through during the pandemic we had to have.

  127. egg_

    Brave Sir Dan leading the way with zero deaths?
    Way to go, Comrade.

  128. liliana

    We hear from Camilla, a young Brazilian who’s here to do her masters in sociology and has lost her part time job. What will she do?

    Should have thought of a plan when the announcement to close the borders was made.

    Anyway here’s a few suggestions;

    Prostitute, fruit picker, farm labourer, supermarket shelf stacker, pizza delivery driver, online porn star, powdered milk/loo paper exporter, Portuguese language tutor, sociology tutor. I heard Bunnings was hiring.

  129. feelthebern

    Cats looking to self isolate really should be staying on the old thread.

  130. Leigh Lowe

    We have certainly learnt in the past few months that people who ski and people who enjoy cruise ships, are filthy and depraved degenerates who do not belong in a civilized society.

    Excluding A-deck stateroom and Captain’s table types.
    Of course.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry for the typos, I was touch typing as I read copy from the book. Didn’t have time to proof read it.

  132. Spider

    Norman Swan still claiming people are confused. Who are these people? Most people I know are very clear on what is required.

    And apparently we need more test kits. Gee ring Scomo and tell him the news. I’m sure he doesn’t know this.

  133. Anne

    Another new theory. I like this one.

    @3days3nights

    Let’s assume you join [their] club. They film you. But how do they control you daily?

    What if you are intentionally infected with a virus?

    What if you receive the antidote every 30 days?

    What if suicide is preferred to the miserable death you face without the antidote?

    #QANON

    —————-

    Could explain why Madonna is singing about suicide because there’s no more pasta. (C9H9NO3)

  134. Zatara

    On Tuesday, economists at Morgan Stanley said they expect jobless claims for the most recent week (ended Saturday) to come in at 3.4 million—about five times the previous record.

    JC

    Yeah, it’s bad, but one has to wonder how many of those are gaming the system. The Dems are promising many of them some pretty lavish stuff to not work.

    Specifically, one of the things Pelosi was pushing for in the virus Rescue Bill was 39 weeks of guaranteed unemployment insurance, often at considerably better pay-rate than what the worker was originally making.

    If I was busting my bum digging ditches for minimum wage and the Govt offered me a $5 per hour raise to watch TV and drink beer I’d be one of those jobless bubbas in a heartbeat.

  135. JC

    Liz

    Not for nothing, but you frequently inform us how you’re an expert in the field of pandemic risks and stats related to that. You went on a cruise well after the outbreak on the stupid ship, your cruise was called off a 1/3 of the way through. You then flew back here, likely taking the seats of people who really were stranded and you’re now saying:

    Now that we are back isolated in our home, and all is well, and the interest in pandemics is high,

    WTF Dude!

  136. Sinclair Davidson

    In that case Doomlord, you’d better check out incubus as well.

    I knew what an incubus was – there was a ghastly horror movie in the 1970s or 1980s called Incubus that I had seen. I just don’t understand why a succubus is a problem – a female demon that has sex with sleeping men. Is the problem that she doesn’t wake them up first? Sounds like a teenage fantasy.

  137. Mother Lode

    The development has astounded critics who expected Americans to judge Donald Trump harshly for his often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak.

    It is hilarious. It is like someone who is completely colour blind watching a person using a colour coded filing system – they literally cannot see the method.

    Again and again Trump calibrates his message and his actions and it keeps working, they can’t see how so they accuse him of some trickery and other people of stupidity. Well, also racism and misogyny, but they were going to accuse them of that anyway.

  138. JC

    Zat

    The GOP should never have signed onto that bill. It is a disaster and they may live to regret it.

  139. areff

    My pleasure, John. And the great thing about Died Pretty: absolutely terrific live act. Only band I’ve enjoyed as much recently in the flesh, The Bennies — although that pleasure was somewhat diminished by the reaction of every young woman I encountered, who all assumed I must be grandpa come to pick up a granddaughter.

    What Australia lacks is a policy encouraging nubile young women to have older gentlemen open their horizons.

    As to the Bennies, the most notable Old Xaverians since Treasurer Phil Lynch.

  140. Mater

    Judging by our obscene submarine dilemma, the lack of fuel for our armoured vehicles and an absence of useful jet interceptors, our admirals, generals and air marshals don’t have to study Military Appreciations, let alone Risk Assessments.”

    Thanks Mick, I’d missed that response.

    My answer would be:
    “That’s because they didn’t go through the National Service Scheme…as designed by Mater!” 😉

  141. John Comnenus

    Did someone say blowjob? NSFW language warning only – not pron

  142. bespoke

    Roger
    #3376825, posted on March 26, 2020 at 10:53 am
    I think leftistm is mostly subconscious.
    I’m gravitating toward the view that prog-lefitsm is more of a social than a political phenomenon, although it plays out in the political sphere because the Left has made everything these days political, even sport.
    Bereft of an inner moral compass shaped by tradition and the robust identity that goes with it, lefties derive their identity from their social group. Hence political positions are adopted not because they have been thought through or because they offer solutions, but because they are shared by the group. Virtue signalling declares one’s membership of the group. Social media magnifies all of this tremendously.
    The worst fate imaginable in this world is ostracism because of dissent from the group position. In fact, that is the path to freedom.

    I think you’ll have to show how the right is any different.

  143. Dr Faustus

    Stopping the pokies has probably been the biggest income boost to low income earners in 50 years.

    The Brits have solved this problem:

    Casinos closed due to coronavirus & online casinos come to the rescue

    Self-destruction is always available.
    From Centrelink to Nevada.

  144. JC

    By the evening I’m going to try and get a load of that anti- mal/anti biotic mix if I have to strangle the fucking doc. I’m seeing him late this afternoon and walking out with prescriptions.

  145. egg_

    Cats looking to self isolate really should be staying on the old thread.

    Bern wins the Internets for the week.

  146. feelthebern

    This morning I had all my staff on a zoom session.
    Already staff are wearing pj’s on the call.
    Only took a week for them to do that.
    At lunch time I had a board meeting via zoom too.
    At least everyone was suitably attired.

  147. EvilElvis

    Sounds like a teenage fantasy.

    Indeed. Yep, um, teenage fantasy, erm, yeah…

  148. John Comnenus

    JC, try bribing the Doctor with a 18 pack of toilet paper, plastic gloves and some hand sanitiser.

  149. Peter the old fossil

    Sounds like a teenage fantasy.

    Yes, I remember it well – fantasy that is, not movie.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Excluding A-deck stateroom and Captain’s table types.
    Of course.

    And who would that snarky remark be addressed to, I wonder? Who on this site has recently returned from a cruise and who on this site is slandered daily because of who she is and where she lives?

    Denigratory comments like that from what Hairy calls the schoolyard bully gang who should be railed in by the owner suggest to me that my time can be better used elsewhere. I come here only to interact with those decent people whom I know from ten years of commenting here on many topics are happy to engage with what I have to say, not who I am (which is a complex story). Many people here tell of their experiences, as I do, but they are not subject to vitriolic attack masquerading as humour.

    I will drop in occasionally to speak to those many who are worth speaking to, not to the idiotic groupthink crowd exhibiting attacks via memes they have developed for their own entertainment, memes which are not any reality of mine.

  151. Zatara

    The GOP should never have signed onto that bill. It is a disaster and they may live to regret it.

    JC

    It hasn’t passed yet and those particular things are holding it up. Final vote is supposed to be in 1/2 hour from now.

  152. feelthebern

    My local coffee shop is managing to stay open.
    Mainly because others have shut their doors.

  153. JC

    I am bribing him, JohnC . His “visit’ is 90 bucks each time for a single problem and it goes steadily higher if you mention something else.

  154. Tel

    Bunnings update: out of methylated spirits and isopropyl alcohol at all stores around Sydney.

    I don’t believe for a moment that they have a great big pile at the central warehouse and it’s only a shelf stacking issue. The stuff is gone.

  155. calli

    It’s gone to Mordor via Greenland.

  156. feelthebern

    C’mon Lizzie.
    You don’t see JC burring up every time time his creased jeans are mentioned.

    Reminds me of a time at my former place of employment when a division head walked up to my desk in the middle of the dealing room & quite loudly said: Jeez you’re a cvnt.
    To which I replied: Meh, I’ve been called worse.
    After the laughter died down, we got on with the job.

  157. bespoke

    Not agreeing is groupthink!

  158. Mater

    I’m seeing him late this afternoon and walking out with prescriptions.

    JC,
    If you’re a hay fever sufferer, and admit that at the door, they may not let you in the practice.
    My wife was forced to have a standard consultation yesterday by standing in the carpark and yelling her symptoms and problems through an open door (not necessarily about the hay fever either)
    So much for patient privacy. Things are a little bit insane at the moment.

  159. feelthebern

    Re the bill.
    Matt Taibbi said it took him months to go through all the legislation & appropriations back in 2009.
    Once we get to see all the gravy, billions would have been made.

  160. Some History

    JC, try bribing the Doctor with a 18 pack of toilet paper, plastic gloves and some hand sanitiser.

    JC, you should attend the appointment decked out thus

    https://imgur.com/nDXEYSd

  161. candy

    By the evening I’m going to try and get a load of that anti- mal/anti biotic mix if I have to strangle the fucking doc. I’m seeing him late this afternoon and walking out with prescriptions.

    You sound a little concerned JC? I know you had a bad bout of flu. Can you get some masks anywhere?

  162. JC

    I went there this week for a flu shot, Mater. Yea I saw some of that as people were waiting outside for their visit. My kid was too panicked to go in the surgery so he gave her a shot in the freaking driveway. 🙂 No, I’m just going in to see if I can get the cocktail. No symptoms.

  163. Ellie

    I knew what an incubus was – there was a ghastly horror movie in the 1970s or 1980s called Incubus that I had seen. I just don’t understand why a succubus is a problem – a female demon that has sex with sleeping men. Is the problem that she doesn’t wake them up first? Sounds like a teenage fantasy.

    She lives in the minds of the demented.

  164. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    standing in the carpark and yelling her symptoms and problems through an open door

    As a nation we appear to be rapidly collectively losing our minds.

    Anyway, gotta zip, I’m off to try a miracle moronavirus antidote, fish tank cleaner mixed with ground up tide pods, washed down with a bottle of hand sanitizer.

  165. shatterzzz

    I’m starting to think that everything the gummint is trying/doing is about hospital beds availability short term rather trying to halt Bat Flu .. may or may not work but the end result is a lot of folk losing their jobs now aren’t gonna have jobs to go back too later .. will it all have been worth it? .. only time will tell but one thing can be guaranteed when Bradbury decides to wind his new Dole payments back to pre-Bat Flu ……. popcorn-time!

  166. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Not for nothing, but you frequently inform us how you’re an expert in the field of pandemic risks and stats related to that. You went on a cruise well after the outbreak on the stupid ship, your cruise was called off a 1/3 of the way through. You then flew back here, likely taking the seats of people who really were stranded and you’re now saying:

    JC, I took a calculated risk. I love my husband and I knew he wanted very much to go. I had hoped we could get in under the closing wire, and still do the cruise. You of all people should be familiar with concept of calculated risks. I also wanted to see my elderly aunt while she still lived.

    You should also know, if you read the WSJ article re the Oxford study vs the Imperial College study, that epidemiology is a matter of risks, numbers, inputs and outputs. I topped epidemiology in the SU Med Faculty and I am proud of that; I was offered the chance to continue to the US CDC, which I had to reject.

    I am sorry if qualified women bother you when they occasionally state their training. I think btw that you will find GP’s in Australia are no longer permitted to prescribe Hydroxychloroquine, but perhaps your doctor has a special in to get you some.

    The Qantas 777 we flew back to Australia on was half empty.

    You are better than this, JC. I hope I have sufficiently answered your questions.

    How about a little common sense around here?

  167. Sinclair Davidson

    She lives in the minds of the demented.

    Well yes. I did a subject at Uni called Comparative Legal History and we studied the Salem Witch Trials. One of the indicators that a woman was a witch was that she had appeared in the dreams of her accuser. Sounds terrible. So pervert has wet dream, then gets rebuffed*, then gets to accuse the poor woman.

    *not necessarily in that order.

  168. Old School Conservative

    At least in the old days we had stoushes about things such as the evils of fractional reserve banking

    Perhaps today we could start with an explanation of where all the debt is coming from.
    If every country in the world is borrowing to “stimulate” their destroyed economies, who is doing the lending?

  169. feelthebern

    PS, there is growing speculation that there will be a rent relief package announced by ScoMo over the next week.
    One part, pretty much blanket rent relief for the 30% of Australia’s that rent.
    A dollar amount.
    That rumour seems too good to be true, but keep in mind the lobbyist in ScoMo’s ear.
    The other part, rent relief for small business.
    Pity it’s too late ScoMo for all the businesses that shut the doors this week.
    Time will tell on both counts.

  170. Chris

    Cats looking to self isolate really should be staying on the old thread.

    Bern wins the Internets for the week.

    Yes, yes. (blushes.)

  171. Sinclair Davidson

    If every country in the world is borrowing to “stimulate” their destroyed economies, who is doing the lending?

    Central banks will be buying a lot of that debt. Its called monetising the fiscal deficit.

  172. Rossini

    Hard to keep up with the constantly changing “freds”
    New policy a new one every day!!!!!

  173. JC

    Candy

    I’m/We’re fine. I just want to get a stash of those drugs and keep around in case.

    This is the problem. Say you have the symptoms. By the time you can arrange a test etc, it will like 3 days.
    Day 1. You go to the Doc/hospital and get a test.
    Then its 48 hours to get back the result.

    That’s three fucking days, assuming no delays and it could be longer if the line lengthens at the labs.

    You could be dead by then.

    For 30 bucks, getting those drugs, the upside vs the downside is enormous. Yea, I’d spend 30 bucks saving my own life and the family. No?

  174. feelthebern

    Perhaps today we could start with an explanation of where all the debt is coming from.

    Re Central Banks?
    That’s easy.
    They create it.

    Re Governments ?
    That’s also easy.
    From taxpayers that haven’t even been born yet.

  175. shatterzzz

    Bunnings update: out of methylated spirits and isopropyl alcohol at all stores around Sydney.

    Plenty of meths at Big W stores .. why do folk want meths .. Bunnings had a run on oil paint?

  176. Rossini

    Rent relief ??????/

    How about Electricity bill relief!!!!!!!!

  177. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    who is doing the lending?

    Well, duuuh – the underpants gnomes. All those excess profits have to end up somewhere.

  178. feelthebern

    I want ScoMo to blow the doors off with this spend.
    250bill budget deficit.
    Bake in at least 1 trill of foreign debt.
    Just go the whole hog.

  179. Infidel Tiger

    Michael Roddan
    @MichaelRoddan
    ·
    2h
    Replying to
    @fergushunter
    speaking to my cousin who lives in a pretty low SES area, she says the kids are pretty neglected outside of school, very tenuous link to parents and learning already, and little structure to their lives. it’s eroding their futures, imho

    The ‘Shut down the schools” movement was another social divide.

    We are now a nation of fake jobs vs real jobs. The idle rich vs the delivery driver. Leaners vs lifters.

  180. egg_

    I’m starting to think that everything the gummint is trying/doing is about hospital beds availability short term rather trying to halt Bat Flu .. may or may not work but the end result is a lot of folk losing their jobs now aren’t gonna have jobs to go back too later .. will it all have been worth it? .. only time will tell but one thing can be guaranteed when Bradbury decides to wind his new Dole payments back to pre-Bat Flu ……. popcorn-time!

    Amen!

  181. feelthebern

    In one month, we’ve gone from the facade of financial responsibly to everyone who can rolling around in the trough getting a snout full.

  182. Infidel Tiger

    I want ScoMo to blow the doors off with this spend.
    250bill budget deficit.
    Bake in at least 1 trill of foreign debt.
    Just go the whole hog.

    Carpet bomb my house with money, fatso!

  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Not agreeing is groupthink!

    No, disagreement is fine. JC has disagreed, and I have shown him where he went wrong.
    That is as it should be.

    You, Bespoke, invent things, unpleasant memes that you and other think are funny.
    They are not.

    Sinclair, if someone suggested that you enjoyed ‘chewing down on the old bat’ about your wife of a certain age, as has been said about Hairy regarding me, plus many other vile comments, how would you like it? You know my husband, you know his background of integrity and intellect, and I think if and when we meet again he might have a few suggestions for you regarding civility on your site.

  184. JC

    JC, I took a calculated risk.

    Really? Show me the numbers.

    I love my husband and I knew he wanted very much to go. I had hoped we could get in under the closing wire, and still do the cruise. You of all people should be familiar with concept of calculated risks. I also wanted to see my elderly aunt while she still lived.

    Leave aside the risk both of you were prepared to live with. You potentially placed everyone you came into contact with at risk. Did you calculate those odds? You put at risk the people at the airport, on the plane and everywhere else.

    You should also know, if you read the WSJ article re the Oxford study vs the Imperial College study, that epidemiology is a matter of risks, numbers, inputs and outputs. I topped epidemiology in the SU Med Faculty and I am proud of that; I was offered the chance to continue to the US CDC, which I had to reject.

    If you topped the class, it must have been a retarded group that year. We don’t know which of the two studies is the right one yet and furthermore you had no idea about those two studies before departing. Talk about Lizzie Hindsight. It’s really dishonest you’re bringing those two studies into the discussion now when they weren’t around before you took off.

    I am sorry if qualified women bother you when they occasionally state their training. I think btw that you will find GP’s in Australia are no longer permitted to prescribe Hydroxychloroquine, but perhaps your doctor has a special in to get you some.

    Oh you’ve looked into it, have you? Why? 🙂

  185. candy

    For 30 bucks, getting those drugs, the upside vs the downside is enormous. Yea, I’d spend 30 bucks saving my own life and the family. No?

    I don’t know JC. untested drugs. Anyways if you see the doc you talk it over.
    Masks in the meantime would be good, but it seems they are very hard to get in Australia right now or enough protective gloves etc. How hopeless is the government not fixing that problem from the get-go.
    Who now would not wear a mask whenever they went out?

  186. Zatara

    Re the bill.
    Matt Taibbi said it took him months to go through all the legislation & appropriations back in 2009.
    Once we get to see all the gravy, billions would have been made.

    FTB, at last count the Rescue Bill had over 400 pages in it.

    400 pages and written in what? 2-3 weeks at the most? By committees?

    Anyone who thinks it wasn’t stuffed full of crap the various sides had stuffed into their “Not A Farking Chance Of Passing On Its Own” folders is an idiot.

  187. feelthebern

    It won’t be long before tradies are tracked by the government to ensure adherence to the nightly regulatory changes.

  188. feelthebern

    Agree Zatara.
    The K street lobbyist had this up their sleeve & ready to go.

  189. bespoke

    when Bradbury decides to wind his new Dole payments back to pre-Bat Flu

    That will not happen

  190. thefrollickingmole

    Never mind that crisis Ive got a domestic one of epic proportions..

    Lady Mole is shit scared of snakes, there have been a couple of “legless lizard” (really small brown snakes) explained away outside in order to not scare her too much.
    Her big terror is snakes inside, which ive explained wont happen/cant happen/never seen…

    So you know where this is leading.

    After dinner and Mrs mole & hellspawn and myself all playing together near the kitchen table with toys on the floor when the mollette screams.
    It was one of these suckers doing its “happy snake dance” while screaming “Im a bloody snake” with flashing neon signs over it saying “Snake here” across the smooth floor towards the hellspan and wife while weaving its way around toys.

    Snake then taken outside and thrown away, when chooks attacked it like little furies.

    Back inside, reassurance is useless and my little hellspawn will lose the use of his legs due to never being allowed to touch the ground again.

    Have “security theatre” repairs being done on the front door today to add a better vermin proof strip.

  191. egg_

    the underpants gnomes.

    Stephen Conjob?

  192. My observation was that National Service (under standard conditions) might go some way to re-establishing a population who feels a little more united, even if it’s from the shared misery of NS. A population who has a connection with their fellow countrymen (and therefore less inclined to hoard dunny paper and send it to a third country). A population who understands a bit about of sacrifice, teamwork and deprivation. They might even get to understand that freedom isn’t actually free and that the world isn’t all rainbows and fairy dust.

    If you lack a “connection” with your fellow countrymen, that’s most likely as a result of your incapacity to communicate and empathise with them. I’ve been around for a fair while, and I’ve never perceived any difference between the connections I have with others that I developed during NS, and for example, the connections I maintain with people I have known and worked with down through the years. National Service probably has a special magic only for those who’ve led otherwise very sheltered lives.

    It might even help develop a resilient population who understands that the government won’t always ‘save their arse’ – quite the opposite in fact. Shit, they might even come away with some useful skills, pride and thinking of themselves as Australians. God forbid.

    I don’t know about you, but the army taught me nothing useful I didn’t already know. Contact drills, weapon cleaning and maintenance, and square bashing have been of no use at all to me for over 50 years.

    Now go away. I’m not interested in someone who tried everything to get out of their obligation and, hence, force someone else to do it. Your self interested attitude is exactly what my concept would be trying to counter.

    I certainly did everything in my power to escape being used as political collateral. In that I was unsuccessful, but I “forced” nobody else to do anything, and in the end my reluctant participation saved another young Australian from the crap that I, and 16000 others were subjected to.
    In the end the Australian people woke up to the scam anyway, but 200 plus Nashos died before that came about. What I learned from the experience is that governments use bullshit, fear and loathing to seek and hold on to power. It’s been a very useful life lesson.
    It’s also why I write here.

  193. bespoke

    You, Bespoke, invent things, unpleasant memes that you and other think are funny.
    They are not.

    Sinclair, if someone suggested that you enjoyed ‘chewing down on the old bat’ about your wife of a certain age, as has been said about Hairy regarding me, plus many other vile comments, how would you like it? You know my husband, you know his background of integrity and intellect, and I think if and when we meet again he might have a few suggestions for you regarding civility on your site.

    Don’t BS lizzie I try to pin with that. It’s not my style.

  194. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    2677

    we’ll see over the next couple of days whether it’s slowing…

  195. bespoke

    Don’t BS lizzie and try to pin with that. It’s not my style.

  196. It’s Remarkable

    Posted on the old thread:
    Clearly the greatest employment growth will be in Auslang (you know the hand waving, facial twisting) signers that accompany every pollie or other emergency spokesperson. They seem to now be obligatory on every TV broadcast no matter how superficial it might be.
    They are (to me) enormously distracting, distracting from what is actually being said, and the furious signalling often appears quite unrelated to what is being said.
    And, don’t deaf people have TV’s with sub-titles.
    Anyway, we may have a “Auslang-led recovery”. Demand for their services will never end at this rate.

  197. MatrixTransform

    Don’t be sad. Just rely on the fact that us succubus women have ruined the fabric of society.
    Or was it the gays?

    did I say that did I ?

    don’t think so

  198. Dr Faustus

    I’m starting to think that everything the gummint is trying/doing is about hospital beds availability short term rather trying to halt Bat Flu

    That is exactly correct.
    That is what ‘flattening the curve’ is all about.

    Couldn’t be clearer.
    Apparently.

  199. John Comnenus

    Some obscure but topical quarantunes to go with my work from home

    The True Fools Fall by Died Pretty

    The Way I Made You Feel by Ed Kuepper

  200. Peter the old fossil

    One part, pretty much blanket rent relief for the 30% of Australia’s that rent.

    A percentage that will grow much bigger as a couple of million families default on their mortgages over the next two years. Which is the whole idea. It’s difficult to manage a centrally planned economy with ordinary people having the security of owning their own homes.

  201. Chris

    Just visited the Vietnam memorial in Kings Park. The digger and ARVN soldier together look good.

    Some prick has torn off the barrel of his SLR though. On the way I walked past the Tobruk memorial, all shiny pink granite – because the old sandstone one would be soaked in graffiti paint by the classless dykes every April 23rd or November 10th.

  202. Sinclair Davidson

    I don’t know about you, but the army taught me nothing useful I didn’t already know. Contact drills, weapon cleaning and maintenance, and square bashing have been of no use at all to me for over 50 years.

    Yep. Growing up in South Africa there was this crazy idea that sending people to foreign countries to murder the locals somehow transformed boys into men.

  203. Zatara

    Anyone who thinks it wasn’t stuffed full of crap the various sides had stuffed into their “Not A Farking Chance Of Passing On Its Own” folders is an idiot.

    But the stuff Pelosi attempted to force into the mix was just outrageous.

    Among other other things she wants to pay workers more on unemployment insurance than they normally make working. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what the results of that would be or the ideology which inspired the idea.

    Bernie was just ranting on the floor of the Senate supporting that specifically.

  204. thefrollickingmole

    Tel

    Alcohol for hand sanitizer was unavailable last week.
    I know i tried to score a heap for site.

    And, as a result of a throwaway comment at the morning meeting regarding alcohol stills the one bloke in town who already has one is being paid to crank out as much as he can (about 3l every 4-5 days) and Ill be home brewing sanitizing gel for the site.

    Despite my insistence yesterday our inscrutable oriental (Japan edition) would laugh at the suggestion they are paying to buy the stuff from the homebrewing company.
    There are crazy, crazy times.

  205. Eyrie

    Lizzie, Qantas doesn’t own any 777’s.

  206. JC, I took a calculated risk.

    Anybody who cruises, even when there is no pandemic, is falling for a scam.
    Being locked up in a floating RSL, surrounded by geriatrics who are ticking off bucket lists, and descending in droves on “picturesque” destinations which they are slowly destroying, is paying for an activity which is for me, beyond comprehension.
    With a pandemic on the offing (which it was when you set out), it could be classified as self destructive behaviour.
    And it puts everyone else at risk.
    It’s irresponsible lemming-like behaviour.

  207. shatterzzz

    when Bradbury decides to wind his new Dole payments back to pre-Bat Flu
    That will not happen

    He’s , put the the Dole on a higher rate than both the OAP & rorters .. gonna be a lot of not quite fit folks suddenly getting the urge to work LOL!

  208. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Chinese company shipped out millions of Australia’s masks, hand sanitiser, glove supplies
    A Chinese government-backed company amassed Australia’s supplies of masks, hand sanitiser, antibacterial wipes and shipped them to China.

  209. Mater

    In that I was unsuccessful, but I “forced” nobody else to do anything, and in the end my reluctant participation saved another young Australian from the crap that I, and 16000 others were subjected to.

    Had you been successful, do you not see that another bloke would’ve needed to fill the hole in 7RAR?
    But that’s ok: “I’m alright thanks Jack, fuck the rest of you!”

    You didn’t need to like it, Bob. You didn’t even need to agree with it. Your number come up, and it was you, or the guys who’s number was on the next marble.

    You often say that conscripts don’t fit the ANZAC myth. They do, you just don’t understand ANZAC. It’s about taking your lumps, dusting yourself off, and getting on with it, lest you let your mates down.
    Conscripts that just manned up and got on with it, fit the myth in spades. You however….

  210. Arky

    Perhaps today we could start with an explanation of where all the debt is coming from.
    If every country in the world is borrowing to “stimulate” their destroyed economies, who is doing the lending?

    ..
    Future you is.
    Your savings are going to be inflated away.

  211. IT:

    Trump’s approval ratings hit all-time high during coronavirus pandemic

    The development has astounded critics who expected Americans to judge Donald Trump harshly for his often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak.

    They cannot understand that their views aren’t reality.
    “Misleading and erratic?” Only to the MSM.

  212. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    numbers try to headmaster a kitteh. tut tut tut. feel the hate burning inside bob, unleash that inner nanny.

  213. Knuckle Dragger

    Things are returning to normal.

    Plagiarism Bob still hates himself for not putting his hand up at the opt-out parade in his forgettery.

    Lizzie’s still waving her CV at people that didn’t ask for it, oblivious that she’s placed all the elderly rellos she claims to like so much at risk of premature death.

  214. bespoke

    1735099 trying to wedge, It isn’t gonna happen little man.

  215. JC:

    On Tuesday, economists at Morgan Stanley said they expect jobless claims for the most recent week (ended Saturday) to come in at 3.4 million—about five times the previous record.

    And the MSM and the Democrats will be screaming to the winds that “Trump is killing the economy!”
    And of course, they will be baffled when President Trumps approval rating hits 70%.

  216. twostix

    QLD just gave kids all of next week off.

    Unless you’re the kid of an “essential worker”.

    How much would it suck to be those kids!

  217. Mark A

    For those who like cooking, first step in preparing Coq au vin.

  218. Stanley

    Things you don’t want to hear: “Excuse me Ma’am and your RH Philip; his HRH the Duke of Cornwall is here for a surprise visit to you both and he hasn’t washed his hands.”

  219. Zatara

    US Senate passes ‘Phase 3 Relief Bill’ unanimously. It must be an absolute doozey.

    Doubt any single human being knows exactly what’s in it.

  220. Peter the old fossil

    Chinese company shipped out millions of Australia’s masks, hand sanitiser, glove supplies

    How long does this nonsense go on? I have no idea what the truth is, but a claim like that supported by nothing more than the say so of an unidentified, unknown “whistleblower”, backed by photos that could have been taken any time for a multitude of legitimate reasons, pretty much anywhere in the world, is hardly “proof” of anything.

    Wake up peoples. We are being railroaded.

  221. egg_

    What’s on the panic prepper’s shopping list?

    – Metho?
    – Fish tank cleaner – wimps try to get their Doc to approve?
    – Gloves?
    – Mask?

    I’ll bet Supermarket trolleys are loaded with the beer virus.

  222. Mitch M.

    JC, I took a calculated risk. I love my husband and I knew he wanted very much to go. I had hoped we could get in under the closing wire, and still do the cruise. You of all people should be familiar with concept of calculated risks. I also wanted to see my elderly aunt while she still lived.

    You made a big mistake. It’s that simple. Trying to rationalise it away makes a mockey of your claims to expertise. Just for a change admit you stuffed up.

    Denigratory comments like that from what Hairy calls the schoolyard bully gang who should be railed in by the owner suggest to me that my time can be better used elsewhere. I come here only to interact with those decent people whom I know from ten years of commenting here on many topics are happy to engage with what I have to say, not who I am (which is a complex story). Many people here tell of their experiences, as I do, but they are not subject to vitriolic attack masquerading as humour.

    Has it ever occurred to you that the persistent attacks on you might be cause for some introspection? I have the impression you think you are without sin.

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