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One for the blokes

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Simon Chapman built his career in the anti-smoking movement. He ran, for many years, an organisation called Action on Smoking and Health.

He then became a professor of public health at the University of Sydney. His current campaign is against screening for prostate cancer. He set out his case in a SMH article a few weeks ago and, it seems, has written a book on the subject under the name Let Sleeping Dogs Lie.

Chapman’s argument is that men should not have the PSA blood test to see if they have prostate cancer because it might lead to unnecessary treatment.

What happens is this – a PSA test that is higher than normal and stays there for a while is a pretty good indicator of prostate cancer cells in the body. That test is followed by a biopsy, taking samples from the prostate. The PSA score and the results of the biopsy are combined to try to get an indication of the prognosis of the cancer.

Based on that, a decision is made on treatment, most commonly surgical removal of the prostate. Chapman says that this usually leads to impotence and sometimes incontinence. I am not sure about his figures – he says 77% and 12%. Many surgeons use a “nerve sparing” technique which, according to my reading, gives a very good chance of maintaining potency. Still, there are significant risks.

Chapman then says that prostate surgery saves few lives – most men dying in their 80s have prostate cancer but they die of something else before that cancer gets them. They die “with” rather than “of” prostate cancer. There is no conclusive way of identifying the aggressive prostate cancer that will kill.

Chapman quotes a figure that of 50 men treated for prostate cancer only one would have otherwise died from it. I believe this figure is disputed.

He says that the average age of death from prostate cancer in Australia is 79.8 while the all-up average at death is 76 so “on average, men who die from prostate cancer actually live longer.” Can you spot the fallacy in this comparison? Chapman stops just short of the comment, which some anti-PSA campaigners make, that most men with prostate cancer are pretty old and so were going to die pretty soon anyway.

Chapman’s conclusion is “don’t even ask, you don’t want to know if you have prostate cancer because it might lead to unnecessary treatment.” (My paraphrase).

I have quite a few friends and acquaintances who have had prostate cancer treatment. I don’t now how many are impotent (blokes don’t talk about that sort of thing) but I know of none who regret the treatment, whatever the side-effects. They believe the treatment saved their lives and though they do know that it was not certain that the cancer would have killed them they say “now I know it won’t”.

Like most public health academics, Chapman has no medical qualifications. He is a sociologist. He has never faced a patient with a diagnosis of cancer. He has never faced a patient dying of cancer who he earlier persuaded not to have the PSA test. He has never faced a patient.

I have given all this a lot of thought and have read pretty extensively on the subject and discussed it with GPs and urologists. I do have regular PSA tests and if I had a high result that hung around for a while I would have a biopsy. Then, with the best medical advice I could get, I would decide whether to have treatment.

Chapman says we should not put ourselves in the position of having to make this decision. Ignorance is better.

Written by Ken Nielsen

December 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

Sociology and Carbon

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ABC Unleashed continues to dispense helpful advice to us all from those with greater wisdom and knowledge of the world than we have.

Simon Chapman the sociologist who made his career campaigning against tobacco suggests that we all set ourselves a travel reduction target to reduce our carbon footprint. He mentions an invitation he had a couple of years ago to travel, all expenses paid, to Geneva to speak for 15 minutes at a conference. He declined because “the carbon footprint involved and the derisory speaking time”.

Now, most of us would reckon it’s a pretty dopey idea to go all that way for 15 minutes of talking, whether or not we cared about our carbon footprint. About two minutes’ thought would be enough to convince me that it was all a very foolish idea.

Long distance flights are no fun and they need a pretty good purpose before we consider putting ourselves through the discomfort and jetlag. Perhaps Chapman is getting to the age where flying has lost its excitement and is using his carbon footprint as a more worthy reason to stop than simple discomfort?

He is now sending video presentations of his thoughts instead of going there. Great idea and a good use of modern technology. Of course carbon emissions will only be reduced if airlines cut their schedules which is unlikely even if all the sociology conferences in the world are replaced with Skype chats.

Written by Ken Nielsen

January 22nd, 2010 at 9:33 am

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