Electricity prices: Canberra and Queanbeyan

Perhaps the best demonstration of the effects of regulated electricity prices is to compare Canberra and Queanbeyan with electricity supplied by ActewAGL.

Despite being considered a poor cousin to Canberra, Queanbeyan residents pay considerably higher electricity charges.

ACT: supply charge – 53.90 cents per day; consumption – 15.598 cents per kilowatt hour inclusive of GST

Queanbeyan: supply charge – 82.66 cents per day; consumption – 24.3342 cents per kilowatt hour inclusive of GST

So the poorer Queanbeyan residents pay a supply charge 53 per cent higher than in Canberra and a consumption charge 56 per cent higher.

So if a family consumed 4000 kilowatt-hours in a year, they would pay $820 in Canberra and $1274 in Queanbeyan.

What percentage of Canberra residents do you think choose “green energy”? According to the Actewagl website, there were 17,000 “greenchoice” customers as at 31 March 2010 (some of whom may be Queanbeyan residents). That doesn’t seem very high for the public servants in Canberra who are trying to tell us how to live our lives.

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12 Responses to Electricity prices: Canberra and Queanbeyan

  1. rog says:

    public servants in Canberra who are trying to tell us how to live our lives.

    what a ridiculous statement, who has told you how to run your life?

  2. Sleetmute says:

    What’s your point Samuel? I don’t see the relevance of regulation to those tariff differences. And how about some sources for those figures?

  3. FDB says:

    Another incoherent whinge from Samuel.

    Ho hum.

  4. ken n says:

    Another incoherent whinge from Samuel.

    Ho hum.

    Hey FDB, how about saying something constructive, positive for a change? What do you think, what do you believe in? How do you think the world can be made better?
    Same goes for you rog.
    Reactive sniping is uninteresting…

  5. Samuel J says:

    Rog – you have been trying to tell me how to live my life for years.

    The relevance, Sleetmute, is that despite having a title ‘negotiated price’ one cannot negotiate the price: ActewAGL said it is a regulated price and that Canberra and Queanbeyan have difference regulated rates despite drawing from the same source.

    As for the prices, you’ll be able to confirm what I have written on the actewagl website http://www.actewagl.com.au/prices/home/default.aspx

    FDB – thanks for your helpful comment. Do you think it is equitable for Queanbeyan residents to pay 50 per cent more for their electricity compared with ACT residents?

  6. Martin says:

    The tax system has some pretty complex social engineering within it, giving people breaks for that and punishing them for this.

    Could that be interpreted as telling people how to live their lives?

  7. Michael Sutcliffe says:

    That’s why I love Canberra. It’s a city that just has money rolling into it from the rest of the country: clean, well designed, lots of amenities, entertainment and fairs. Great place to bring up kids.

    I reckon f*ck the plebs. If they were unlucky enough to be born into a working trade lifestyle in Queanbeyan then they should have to pay higher prices so people like myself can live a comfortable lifestyle on the public teat in lovely city. If they don’t like it then demand that it changes or keep paying.

    (Ironically, I don’t want my kids doing their teen years in Canberra and getting the false idea that’s how the world really works!)

  8. Sleetmute says:

    Samuel, fair enough, the regulated tariffs are different between the ACT and NSW. But if the underlying supply costs are truly similar, there is nothing stopping NSW-licensed retailers offering Queanbeyan customers lower tariffs than the regulated tariff. It’s more likely that ACT regulated tariffs are currently being held below costs – hence the limited market share of alternative retailers in the ACT – and will need to rise towards NSW tariffs.

  9. Skuter says:

    Public Servants live out in Queanbeyan as well. They’re usually the ones without the elitist sense of entitlement and superiority. Jonny ‘streetart’ Stanhope doesn’t care about it and is far enough away that the NSW government can’t be fucked applying their ‘talents’ to completely stuffing it up…

  10. rog says:

    Reactive sniping ken?

    SJ takes two prices for power and from those infers that the public service are somehow conspiring to keep power costs down and concludes that public servants are running his life.

    And then you ask me to be positive?

  11. The troll formerly known as Tom N. says:

    I personally know some ASO 2s and 3s who live out at Queanbeyan, attracted by the cheap housing presumably, but no one in a policy role would be seen dead out there. Our time is too socially valuable, after all, to have to make a daily commute along Canberra Avenue, or out around the airport. Rush hour between 4.51 and 5pm, within the confines of the capitals, is already wearying enough.

    Moreover, there are matters of national importance, not to mention their ramifications for famine, plague, drought, disease and post-industrial pestilence generally, piling up in our in-trays. There is also the matter of working out what to tell Samuel J about how to live his life, no simple task given his condition.

    Dealing with such weighty issues requires, in addition to the caviar and foi gras that JC provides (thanks), a clean, peaceful and uncongested environment in which one can reflect and contemplate the deeper issues in life. Cheap power is vital in this respect, to keep our concrete clad ivory towers and suburban retreats air conditioned to the appropriate temperature necessary for serious cogitation. No such need out in Queanbeyan.

  12. JC says:

    The quarterly cheque goes out at the end of the month, Tommie. Let me tell you that this time I’ll be thinking of you. Don;t overdo the foi gras.

    Tell us, how’s the hotel concierge job hunt going?

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