The Bunyip is evil

The professor suggests that the Victorian liberals should contest the seat of Niddrie recently vacated by Rob Hulls.

Hulls held the seat by 6.9% at the last election — a margin any popular Premier with even a modest record of achievement might have seen his candidate make up.

(emphasis added)
Heh.

Well, yes.

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22 Responses to The Bunyip is evil

  1. Borisgodunov

    The professor is correct,don’t give the “socialists” a break !they totally stink nationwide ,kick the poop out of them ,expose them for the lying frauds they are”if Ted has t got the GUTS get him out and put someone in who will!

  2. ar

    Worried about losing a close contest or more afraid of a swing away from the government?

  3. JamesK

    The death of right of centre political parties is a ‘moderate’ inleadership positions.

    And Ted is worse than the sum of there worst parts of McCain, Turnbull, Huntsman, Cameron, Heath, Major, Bloomberg and Bush put together.

  4. .

    This is clearly the fault of the mad monk Tony Abbot and his relentless negativity.

  5. MDMConnell

    Nah, the Bunyip is way off the mark with this one.

    Remember Labor contesting Gippsland in 2008? They were killing the Liberals nationally 60-40, and the sun was shining out of Rudd’s bum. The Coalition still got a big swing to them, embarassing Rudd and causing him to squib every subsequent by-election (Mayo, Lyne, Higgins, Bradfield……)

    Governments don’t win by-elections barring extraordinary circumstances, which don’t exist here. Especially not in their opponents safe-ish seats.

  6. Infidel Tiger

    Nah, the Bunyip is way off the mark with this one.

    The Bunyip knows Baillieu and his band of leftist spiv compadres couldn’t win this seat. That’s his point.

  7. MDMConnell

    Yeah, but even if Baillieu was Kennett Mark II, he still wouldn’t win the seat.

  8. conrad

    I don’t see why they couldn’t win the seat — and who cares if they lose. If they lose, they could simply blame it on being a safe Labor seat, and no one would care, but if they win, then they could really rub it in. So there’s almost no downside but there is a big upside.

  9. Token

    If you have a majority of 1 seat and plan to govern for 4 years, why wouldn’t you show some ticker and campaign on the weaknesses of the previous government?

    Red Ted need to show some cajones.

  10. MDMConnell

    “I don’t see why they couldn’t win the seat”

    a) Safe Labor seat.

    b) Even Kennett during his landslides couldn’t win it.

    c) Governments 99.99% of the time suffer swings against them in by-elections.

    d) Even popular governments squib or run very token campaigns at by-elections in their opponents’ seats.

    e) Why would the Victorian Liberals spend money on a lost cause that has no upside (they won’t win) and plenty of downside (can be used as ammunition against Labor Luvvie gripe of the week).

    f) Hulls has hung around just long enough for memories of Bracks/Brumby to fade, and for the “remember how bad the other mob were” argument to lose its potency.

    In standing aside, Big Ted is being entirely consistent with previous governments, state and federal, Labor and Liberal, for the past few decades. What’s all the fuss about???

  11. I reckon Ballieu is just a Labor manchurian candidate who got up and is now just keeping the seat warm while his creators have a well earned break.

  12. johno

    MDM

    Could you provide some evidance to support your claims (b), (c) and (d)?

  13. Quentin George

    johno – I believe Antony Green’s stats back up MDMConnell’s points. Basically, by-elections are gold for oppositions, because it allows voters a safe way to show discontent without threatening a government.

  14. conrad

    I still don’t see how they could lose anything by losing. This would be like Labor losing Toorak or Brighton. Trying to score cheap points out of that would be like throwing poo at yourself. In addition, if the Greens can put a candidate in, I don’t see why the Libs can’t — I think as a matter of principal they should contest every seat (and that would be true of Labor also) so at least the people that want to vote for them, who are certainly not tiny in number, can. How annoying must it be to turn up to the voting booth and find out your party is too lazy to run anyone?

  15. Ballieu and his lot are incapable of acting in a leading manner. Now he is sitting on the fence over what to do about the teacher who filmed himself having sex with a former pupil http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/parents-threaten-revolt-but-ted-baillieu-holds-fire-as-porn-storm-rages/story-fn7x8me2-1226267205806 Unless the Libs get rid of Ballieu and grow some balls we can look forward to another Labor government next election.

  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I think as a matter of principal they should contest every seat

    Absolutely. It also gives the youngbloods a chance to have a go and get a bit of experience.

  17. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Hey Conrad, in the above quote, I also meant to suggest to you that the issue in this context is one of ‘principle’ not ‘principal’. Pedant, moi?

    But the principle you offer still gets my full approval.

  18. Rococo Liberal

    Unless the Libs get rid of Ballieu and grow some balls we can look forward to another Labor government next election.

    Interesting

    If the majority of voters do favour softer, leftish policies, then why would they vote against the Liberals for following those policies. Is the ALP going to present any harder, more right wing policies? Are Liberal voters likely to vote for the more left wing ALP, just because the Libs aren’t right-wing enough? In a compulsory voting system the voters can’t stay at home and thus run down the conservative vote. They could vote informal, but that runs against the grain for the vast majority of voters.

    Or is your argument that the Libs being “the Right,” will, if their government doesn’t solve the State’s problems, tarnish the Right-wing brand, even though they aren’t really imposing a majority of right-wing policies? Are te voters really going to say: “The libs are right-wingers, thier policies haven’t fixed the State, so I will vote for the ALP because their left wing policies might work, even though they have failed to so every time they have been tried?’

  19. Token

    If the majority of voters do favour softer, leftish policies, then why would they vote against the Liberals for following those policies. Is the ALP going to present any harder, more right wing policies?

    Ted is currently in a confrontation with public hospital nurses that are demanding:

    1. Pay increases above inflation
    2. the Registered Nurse ratio stay higher than levels used nationally, and in the private/charity sector (i.e. higher cost people doing low skill work)
    3. the government not change the patient ratios to meet national standards (again higher cost).

    If the Vic Liberal government tries to be Labor-lite, how are they going to resist the calls for a “compremise” which will still cause a budget crisis which will lead to other services from being cut?

    Ted will get it if he does not tame the budget, and he will get it if he stands up to unions.

    Which decision will empower him so he has room in the budget to make decisions in the long run, and which will leave his government vulnerable to the sniping by Labor?

  20. Winston Smith

    Token, perhaps people are sick of the unions, and will cheer if Ted takes them on?
    The unions may scream blue murder, but remember – they lost the elections. And for a reason.

  21. Token

    The 2010 election was in the balance until Ted stood up to the Greens and chose not to direct preferences to them.

    It was a watershed moment the rallied the conservative Labor voters.

    He should make a stand in the name of fiscal prudence. He’s screwed either way, he should show the ticker he showed during the election.

  22. Abu Chowdah

    The Bunyip knows Baillieu and his band of leftist spiv compadres couldn’t win this seat. That’s his point.

    Yes and I can’t understand how every commenter before you missed it. People, the thread title is a clue. Add to that Bunyip’s consistently low opinion of how the Lumbar-less one has wasted his mandate…

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