Why hate the Gillard government?

Tim Dunlop explains

… it is a Labor Government, it is a minority government, and the current prime minister is a woman.

Wow.

Yet he also says

The Gillard Government is far from perfect, and ultimately has no-one to blame for its poor standing but itself.

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146 Responses to Why hate the Gillard government?

  1. jtfsoon

    Nothing to do with her being a woman, everything to do with her and her government being treacherous, incompetent, unprincipled, hopeless at communicating and persuading even on worthy reforms,timorous, clumsy, error prone, aimless, wasted, the most scandal ridden since Khemlani, gauche, undisciplined, and a complete disgrace, pox, herpes and syphillis on the body politic. That specific enough for Tim?

  2. Rafe

    Nice of him to deplore “violent” comments on the PM and the Government but recall the incredibly crude and obscene depictions of John Howard by cartoonists. I wonder if Tim thought that was a bit off?

    As for his remarks about “hate”, that is leftist projection, in my experience non-left people (with very rare exceptions) do not indulge in hatred of political opponents however much we deplore their policies and their indulgence in dehumanization of conservatives.

    Have a look at yourself in the mirror more often Tim, not at your beaming countenance but your attitudes and poses.

  3. Skuter

    If Tony Abbott is having such a negative influence from opposition then there is only one thing for it – Labor needs to go into opposition so ot has the power to fix his mess…simple.

  4. Rabz

    Why hate the dullard gubberment?

    FFS, don’t get me started.

  5. Token

    This is the perfect day for Tim to make that claim. Look what happened to the last bunch of substantiated claims by the same old victim industrty Lefties:

    CLAIMS that some of Australia’s leading climate change scientists were subjected to death threats as part of a vicious and unrelenting email campaign have been debunked by the Privacy Commissioner.

  6. Gab

    What is rather amusing is that the only ones claiming Gillard’s incompetence on gender is the regressive Left.

  7. Matt

    Has anyone in the media started holding parties where the main attraction is the bashing of Gillard-shaped piñatas yet?

  8. Gibbo

    This idea that all the people who voted for Gillard last time have suddenly realised she is a woman & now won’t vote for her astounds me!

  9. adrian

    “Let me count the ways”

  10. Samson Agonistes

    The reality is that the more parties resemble each other the more vicious their petty squabbles become.

  11. twostix

    Listening to these clowns it’s as though they think that only men can vote or that only men hold an opinion of Gillard.

    Are they saying that women don’t have a problem with Gillard. Or that women who do have a problem with her only do so because they’re…sexist?

    Who cares anyway, this bullshit just makes people more annoyed, having their legitimate greivances twisted into such rubbish makes it all the more clear that the government and its boosters just aren’t listening.

  12. Jazza

    Try the CO2tax lie and its impending status, the loss of control over our borders, the absolute waste of profligate uncosted policies, the “marriage” with the Greens, the lack of attention given to what the electorate wants and feels, and add in all I’ve not time to list while you end with incompetent, arrogant, school marmish talk down to the dills leader and deputy and it seems all the Ministers speaking publicly

    And I didn’t even touch on the PM’s lack of judgement ,the Australia Day coverups, and Slippery or the Pants Man!

  13. H B Bear

    Competence has never required a penis.

    The Dumb should go back to doing what it does best. Have poets write economics columns.

  14. Feral Abacus

    From now on I will assume all hatred towards Lady Thatcher is sexism (where as before it was merely a sign of economic illiteracy and general unintelligence).

  15. Samson Agonistes

    Campetence is mainly judged by dicks that point to the right.

  16. Infidel TIger

    I don’t hate Gillard because she has one, I hate her because she is one.

  17. It is strange to see intelligent, good, caring people who happen to be leftists scratching their heads and wondering what, just what it could be that is turning people against Julia Gillard.

    It’s almost as if all that stuff, so ably outlined by Jason above, hadn’t happened. As if we didn’t have to worry about Craigthomsonpeterslipperkevinruddjuliagillard and the rest of them.

    Leftists truly have a blind spot when it comes to scandals and crimes on their side of politics. It makes you wonder just how unremittingly awful a Labor govenrment would have to get before it lost their vote forever.

  18. JC

    Is Dunlop still around? Wow, what a voice from the past.

    He used to have an idiot, I forget his name, who posted threads at that stupid website of his. The moron suggested that the UK government was responsible for the London bombing. 2 1/2 hours, later the bomb at the Scottish airport detonated.

    Dunlop basically ran a truther/hate site.

    Good to see Dunlop has finally realized the Slapper is female. They seem to be doing good things teaching stuff at the sheltered workshop he goes to each day.

  19. Feral Abacus

    Gillard should be replaced by Penny Wong so the 73% of Australians who won’t be putting a “1” next to the Labor box can be accused of being sexist, racist, and homophobic – the holy trifecta of luvvie sphincter-clenching.

  20. Eddystone

    It is strange to see intelligent, good, caring people who happen to be leftists

    Bloody oath!

  21. Dazza

    The Drum….it’s like entering the Twilight Zone!

  22. MDMConnell

    JC,

    Dunlop ran a music review site (!) on Crikey for a while there before it seemed to die in the arse through lack of interest. He’d write really detailed informative stuff like “I’m not going to tell you why I think this album’s bad cause quite frankly I can’t be bothered”.

    The funny thing was, he couldn’t keep himself from inserting ham-fisted political barbs into his reviews. Like “This album is as bad as a News Ltd journalist”, or “This singer’s alleged past is as truthful as a column on Labor from The Australian”.

    No really, this was how he reviewed albums. No wonder it died…..

  23. candy

    there’s a great opportunity for an ALP man to step up to the plate and lead their party with courage and conviction – they would garner respect just for giving it a go,
    but these guys all hide behind Ms Gillard’s skirts very wimpy the lot of them

    i don’t include P.Wong not ‘cos homosexual but because she and girlfriend have a myterious baby from somewhere and that would never be accepted and certainly wouldn’t make the Womens Weekly spread. won’t do.

  24. Matt

    The funny thing was, he couldn’t keep himself from inserting ham-fisted political barbs into his reviews.

    A bit like the sports section in the Age then …

  25. JC

    there’s a great opportunity for an ALP man to step up to the plate and lead their party with courage and conviction – they would garner respect just for giving it a go,

    Really. Which one of these nimrods would you want to be in a trench with, comfortable they have your back and won’t walk, or in their case run away?

  26. Thumbnail

    Where do you stop?

  27. brc

    This idea that men won’t vote for Gillard.

    If we take it as given that all men in Australia refuse to vote for Gillard because she’s a woman, well, let’s say she’s lost 50% of the vote.

    But the 2PP is near enough to 60/40. So even if every man in Australia refuses to vote for her, 10% of the women do as well.

    Or we could turn it around. Presumably all the people in the union movement vote for Labor. But men don’t vote for her. Therefore, all the men in the union movement are actually women dressed as men, or the theory wouldn’t hold true.

    Though, that does explain a lot of their behaviour.

  28. MDMConnell

    Matt,

    I noticed that. There were about 5 days in a row where some completely random dig at US Republicans were shoe-horned into a footy or cricket report.

  29. candy

    “Really. Which one of these nimrods would you want to be in a trench with, comfortable they have your back and won’t walk, or in their case run away?”

    just saying, seize the day, faint heart never won…etc etc

    Ms Gillard is not legit anyway and kevni won’t be back. there’s a terrific opportunity for a man with ticker to take on the problems. nothing ventured, nothing gained

  30. johno

    If you wonder why 26% of the population still support the Liar, its because people who are regarded as ‘proper’ journalists still write this sort of stuff and ‘proper’ media organisations, like the ABC, still publish it. People read it and actually believe it.

    They still think the Liar can win the next election because the Love Media keeps feeding them the line that AbbottAbbottAbbott is more unpopular than she is and THEY BELIEVE IT. Ohh the day of reckoning will be sweet.

  31. brc

    @matt – I used to regularly read a particular monthly motoring magazine published by ACP.

    I stopped when the editor started using every editorial to insult Tony Abbott, and make it clear he thought various Priuii-like vehicles were the future.

    I ask very little of a motoring magazine. Just news on latest models, good photography, maybe a few interviews with famous racers or identities. Some decent writing, a cap on the Falcodore content and few Ralph-level puns doesn’t hurt, though that seems too much to ask for an Australian publication.

    But putting in political commentary and a nod to the green madness of the world as a bridge too far, and I dropped it. They also started including more photographs of the writers than of the cars, presumably because they all think they’re the next Jeremy Clarkson.

    The few friends I knew who read such things have also dumped them, for much the same reasons.

    They’re probably scratching their heads wondering why circulation is falling and blaming ‘the internet’.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Candy, they’ve had it. Labor needs to be routed electorally to gain some sense and perspective on what they have done and why it was so wrong.

    I think women can have ‘ticker’ in politics. It’s just that Gillard has none. She is weak. It shows.
    Sadly, she’s probably turned many Australians off a woman leader for the next election. After that, well, a morally strong and effective leader who was female could still pull in the numbers. People still recall with longing the great Mrs. Maggie T.

  33. Token

    They also started including more photographs of the writers than of the cars, presumably because they all think they’re the next Jeremy Clarkson.

    How do they get it so wrong?

    I wish more of them had Jeremy Clarkson’s view on the green-slimers and the green carpetbaggers.

    That would make me read their magazines.

  34. Token

    Labor needs to be routed electorally to gain some sense and perspective on what they have done and why it was so wrong.

    Don’t believe it. What was the lesson Labor learned after 1996? Oppose all rational economy reform and promote as many hacks, union reps & lawyers into parliament as possible.

    As JC pointed out a few weeks back, the comment by Tallyrand applies to the ALP:

    “They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing,”

  35. Rabz

    A bit like the sports section in the yaged then…

    Ahem, there are people here who read the yaged?

    Shame.

  36. Rabz

    there’s a terrific opportunity for a man with ticker to take on the problems…

    … of resurrecting the laybore pardee’s festering corpse.

  37. brc

    I wish more of them had Jeremy Clarkson’s view on the green-slimers and the green carpetbaggers.

    Token – they think people like Clarkson despite him being politically incorrect. They fail to see that it is his hatred of PC and ‘ecomentalists’ that underpins his popularity far beyond that of a motoring writer.

    He continually pokes fun at his employer and their pet causes for being idiotic and it absolutely enrages them that he does so. How galling for BBC luvvies it must be to have your highest rating and earning franchise led by a man that shares none of your vision.

    I just love watching American actors come on the show and be forced to apologise for buying a Prius out of peer pressure.

  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Token, yep, Labor are very slow learners and generally will not reach any great heights of understanding of how things really work, which is why they rarely do anything but muck things up when in power. However, the Labor perspective is part of the ongoing democratic system where all views are somehow accommodated – the most useless ones, like Greenslime, hopefully confined to a noisy and laughable rump where they don’t impinge on what should be an effective Opposition.

  39. C.L.

    I can scarcely believe that Howard-hating utra-ist Tim Dunlop is lamenting hatred of a government.

    It’s just beyond parody.

  40. Fisky

    Tim Dunlop was always an obsessive Howard-hater and not a very entertaining one either. It was all very strained and laboured and nothing ever hit the target.

  41. Borisgodunov

    People hate the alpwankers because they are a pack of liars.
    you can tell when they are lying. ,their mouths are open,and they all studied elocution at “the Drona fronAltonas “school of elocution and misinformation,funded of course by the Taxpayers.union training is a prerequisite for entry.

  42. Fisky

    Dunlop lays into Turnbull.

    Seems he’s got over that whole ”humble” thing that afflicted him briefly last week, which is good to see. That four vote victory over the compelling Brendan Nelson is such a feather in his cap, you can see why; and it’s also a clear indication that Australians will see the error of their ways and return the government in exile to their rightful position.

    I mean look what he’s done already. He has nearly selected a frontbench, so that’s good. All those bright new names just waiting in the wings to reelectrify the Australian voters: Hockey, Abbott, Bishop, Pyne. The electorate can hardly wait. And he has called for a bipartisan approach on the economy and mocked Kevin Rudd for turning him down. Winner! He also wants to get rid of tax returns for some people. The guy is obviously on a roll. Next thing you know he’ll be getting into the heavy hitting like blocking the tax on alcopops and drawing fine lines between his position on an ETS and that of the government. Reclaiming all that economic credibility as the papers keep telling us after the mess of Brendan Nelson. It’s a new broom!

    Unreadable swill.

  43. C.L.

    Ah yes, the heady days of Labor triumphalism.

    And John Quiggin was saying no Liberal government would ever be elected again.

    Oh how they loved the Dear Leader, Kevin.

  44. Fisky

    All those bright new names just waiting in the wings to reelectrify the Australian voters

    So now we know whose been giving writing lessons to Thomas Friedman!

  45. Fisky

    Yes, that’s right CL. Jon Kwiggin was puffing about a permanent social democratic dictatorship led by Rudd. Thanks for that link to Dunlop’s weird play featuring the Howards.

    Janette: Hello? No, Janet. No, you can’t just hear his voice again. No, he can’t come to the phone and say WorkChoices. No, not even once. No! He isn’t here anyway. What do you mean you can sense him? Look, Janet, these calls have to stop. No, I don’t want to hear about your dream last night. Janet, Janet, come on now. Stop speaking French. And stop crying. Just stop! Oh, for heaven’s sake…

    And that was one of the better parts.

  46. Infidel TIger

    The coming ban on leftism will benefit them more than us.

  47. Tom

    The Drum seems to have decided on a content model where unqualified nobodies are paid peanuts ($200 last I heard) for “comment pieces” as blog traffic generators on a ratio of roughly six “progressives” (in the current Australian political climate, that means “loony left”) for every conservative which the ABC laughably considers demonstrates balance. Hence, most of the Drum’s contributors seem to be uni students, junior academics and “writers” who haven’t yet worked out how to get paid properly for real work, complemented by various lobbyists and barrow-pushers (NGOs, etc) who write for nothing, and ABC staff writers. And, of course, it’s up to the ABC itslf to fob off complaints about The Drum’s ludicrous partisan propaganda. The Drum should be the first thing to go come the counter-revolution. Defund all but Rural (retained as a government regional network) and Radio Australia and sell the rest.

  48. Matt

    From the comments on the Dunlop article linked above

    Frankly, laughing at Howard all these years later is a bit weak.

    Giving him a fair trial, finding him guilty and having him shot would have been about right, though

    Nope, Howard never copped the vitriol that poor, long suffering Julia does …

  49. Fisky

    So now we know who’s been giving writing lessons to Thomas Friedman!

  50. Peter Patton

    Is this the same “Road to Surdom” luvvie who spent about 7 years of his life typing 24/7 on his blog about evil “the Rodent” was, and how we were all going to hell in a hand basket?Oh, dude, Please. Just. Fuck. Right. Off.

  51. Fisky

    The Drum is the single worst service that the federal government provides us. We’d get better value for money from public-subsidized phrenology research than this garbage.

  52. Matt

    Defund all but Rural (retained as a government regional network) and Radio Australia and sell the rest

    Radio Australia needs to go as well. I’m not so sure the rural radio network needs to be kept either – although the Nats would go off their trolley. I reckon there could be a market for the service provided by the rural stations if the “free” ABC service wasn’t about.

  53. Gab

    Frankly, laughing at Howard all these years later is a bit weak.

    Giving him a fair trial, finding him guilty and having him shot would have been about right, though

    What is it with the Left and violence?

  54. Feral Abacus

    Ah yes, the heady days of Labor triumphalism.

    Ha, yes, I remember them well. I was honestly fooled into thinking the Rudd Government would follow the Hawke-Keating and Howard precedent and reign for at least a decade.

    I’m so happy they fucked themselves up.

  55. Helen Armstrong

    It was all very strained and laboured and nothing ever hit the target.

    Bit like the morning after a good curry?

  56. Infidel TIger

    These are actually halcyon days for the ALP. The next draft of lawyers and shop stewards entering the ranks will be worse.

  57. Rabz

    What is it with the Left and violence lobotomies?

  58. Token

    The next draft of lawyers and shop stewards entering the ranks will be worse.

    Look at the QLD opposition leader, so much of the gene pool are 2nd generation Labor MPs.

  59. Matt

    much of the gene pool are 2nd generation Labor MPs

    I always have a quiet chuckle when Albanese and co. go on about “born to rule Tories”. Safe parliamentary seats for the ALP are treated like hereditary fiefs! Would a non-entity like Joe Ludwig be anywhere near a ministerial position if not for an accident of birth?

  60. H B Bear

    The world would be a sadder place if you couldn’t laugh at Albo. He reduces himself and others to tears.

  61. Feral Abacus

    always have a quiet chuckle when Albanese and co. go on about “born to rule Tories”. Safe parliamentary seats for the ALP are treated like hereditary fiefs!

    Absolutely. They’re an aristocracy of inbred dullards.

  62. Token

    Do you think the son of Albo & Tebitt will be lining up for pre-selection in the Inner Luvvie West electorates in coming years?

  63. Samson Agonistes

    Like, Uncle Joe Hockey has a steel-trap for a mind?

  64. Abu Chowdah

    I’m sure Nicola Roxon would have been briefed on and maybe had veto power on the HSU raid. Reasonable to expect that the PM would have been briefed.

    On a tangent, did you hear that Williamson was found trying to remove documents from the HSU as the raid started? Almost as if he was tipped off.

  65. JC

    On a tangent, did you hear that Williamson was found trying to remove documents from the HSU as the raid started? Almost as if he was tipped off.

    Oh Yea. It would be good to see how the police treat this and if they pursue the possible tip off. If they don’t the Lib Government needs to ask why. Failing a suitable answer heads will invariably have to roll.

  66. Samson Agonistes

    Why would the NSW police brief a PM about a raid?

    You need to study some basic politics, Abu.

  67. JC

    Why would the NSW police brief a PM about a raid?

    We don’t know who was briefed, Fuckface. However Williamson was found preempting the raid and we therefore need to find out how and why.

    You need to study some basic politics, Abu.

    Fuck off.

  68. Greg

    A great new App has been developed for the US to see how Soaking the Rich can cut the deficit:
    http://soaktherich.us/

    Can someone create one for Australia?

  69. JC

    Can someone create one for Australia?

    Why. We don’t need one as it’s already happening.

  70. brc

    Re the Drum – the irony is that it has put legitimate lefty blogs out of business with it’s below-cost subsidisation.

    Yet the Drum has failed to make a dent in any conservative blogs – if anything, they are growing in numbers and visitors.

    Loss of opinion diversity on the left, and encouragement of diversity of opinion for conservatives.

    Yet another triumph of big-government centrally planned policies.

    Yes, the Drum should go as part of a large ABC shakeup. They could sell it off on eBay and see if anyone actually thinks it’s worthwhile.

  71. Samson Agonistes

    So why is the IPA permanently camped out at the Drum if it’s so leftist?

  72. brc

    Williamson and the bag of docs:
    1) he is suspended – why in the office in the first place?
    2) who gave him the tip?
    3) how monumentally thick do you have to be to keep the incriminating evidence in the office?

  73. Samson Agonistes

    Most of the Catallaxy crew publishes pieces in the Drum as well.

    Am I the only one who reads them?

  74. Splatacrobat

    All I’m trying to put my finger on is why their bad behaviour is deemed so much more unacceptable than the bad behaviour of the previous Coalition government.

    How about unlike the coalition Labor fucks everything it touches. Labor need rebranding and should call themselves the Errol Flynn Party

  75. JC

    no one said it was 100% morbidly leftist. It is about 95%.

    The IPA people have lots of fun. It’s like teasing wild animals by opening the cage, letting them see there is a potential feed there and quickly closing it as it approaches the meal.

  76. brc

    It seems the troll is getting desperate

    HEY YOU ALL I SAID SOMETHING YOU DON’T AGREE WITH. SHOWER ME WITH ATTENTION PLEASE

    Settings are still to ‘ignore’

  77. Rafe

    “completely random dig at US Republicans were shoe-horned into a footy or cricket report.”

    And the lefties who do film reviews for the Australian like to put in digs at Thatcher and Reagan.

  78. Abu Chowdah

    If you believe the federal government had no inkling of a state police raid on one of their own, you are clearly ignorant of how shit happens.

    Actually, samson’s sounding more and more like a certain Victorian lawyer of no particular talent.

  79. JC

    Most of the Catallaxy crew publishes pieces in the Drum as well.

    They do fuckface, that’s right. See the reason above it’s called teasing.

    Am I the only one who reads them?

    No fuckface, you aren’t. Lots of leftwing morons do which is why we sometimes have a bet to see how many times da IPA is mentioned in the comment section. I have it up to 98 times as the record.

  80. jtfsoon

    Actually, samson’s sounding more and more like a certain Victorian lawyer of no particular talent.

    Jeremy Sears?

  81. Samson Agonistes

    Aby, You talked about a briefing and not about inklings.

  82. JC

    Really? You think it’s Walter Jeremy Seared? Wow.

    Briefs must be few and far between. I wonder how he’s paying the rent of the office.

  83. jtfsoon

    Like, Uncle Joe Hockey has a steel-trap for a mind?

    Actually for all his faults, Hockey is quite bright. Wasn’t he a successful banker before he entered politics?

  84. Samson Agonistes

    Hockey doesn’t speak like someone overly sharp and he resorts habitually to cliche after cliche …

    but if you meet him privately i’m sure he’s much brighter and he’s quite engaging.

  85. Token

    Actually, samson’s sounding more and more like a certain Victorian lawyer of no particular talent

    Other thing the troll has said has indicated he is based in Victoria.

    The writing style changes noticeably at times so he may have :

    1) split personality
    2) gender issues
    3) multiple people using one alias.

    All up, he’s a lefty so we must assume a head injury when he was a child.

  86. Abu Chowdah

    Briefing, inkling… Forewarned is forearmed.

  87. Token

    Briefing, inkling… Forewarned is forearmed.

    The word last night was the press were lining up on the curb in the hour or so before the raid.

    It is not like they were hanging out waiting for Golden Century to open for breakfast.

  88. Abu Chowdah

    Yes, who cares who it is. The generic species is leftus retardus and best ignored.

    It posts less and less the more people simply ignore its input. That has been quite marked in recent threads.

  89. Samson Agonistes

    Hockey is however a “juliar’ as we say these days.

    Talks about cutting billions but too deceitful to say what.

    Defends every piece of middle class welfare as incentive.

    Wants to add billions od dollars of spending but won’t say how.

    Three strikes so youre out, Uncle Joe.

  90. Abu Chowdah

    Well Token, state police are well known for their symbiotic relationship with the third estate. Likely that is how Williamson was given the tip.

    There should be gaol terms aggressively pursued for cops and other pubes who give confidential info to the media.

  91. Samson Agonistes

    Labor Government being briefed by the stewards at the Dapto Dogs, as well, Abu?

  92. Token

    It is also said the suspended-on-full-pay Williamson may have been in the office providing guidance to the acting CEO when the forth estate started queing on the curb. An accidentally event that happens a bit so to speak.

    Whether someone spoke to Williamson would be moot if that was the case.

  93. Abu Chowdah

    What a great week for the ALP. I am loving it!

  94. Abu Chowdah

    Fourth estate. Just woke up on this side of the globe…

  95. JC

    What a great week for the ALP. I am loving it!

    And it’s going to get “better” too. Watch.

  96. Samson Agonistes

    It’s still not clear what the HSU has to do with the Government, but anything is possible with the shamelessly leftist press we have.

  97. Infidel TIger

    Samson, your nickname wouldn’t be Thrush by chance?

  98. Peter Patton

    Personally, I find if fucking disgusting that the ABC is so willing to devote so much energy to blogs with comments, soliciting tweets and Youtube submissions, during a live TV broadcast, and then broadcasting the inanity! H-u-l-l-o? I do not turn the TV to read one the 500 million tweets that are currently going off in Australia at that moment.

    Given the ABC’s Charter, and the self-identity of its seriously self-pleased staff, the ABC has become as feral as ATSIC had become by 2000. If the ABC has decided this is the road it wants to go down, then it cannot justify getting an extra bean from the taxpayer.

  99. Samson Agonistes

    The ABC made a right turn under Howard and that hasn’t changed.

  100. Token

    Really? You think it’s Walter Jeremy Seared? Wow.

    Briefs must be few and far between. I wonder how he’s paying the rent of the office.

    It is remarkable how many times our pet troll words things like the Douche, it is like they think alike.

  101. Nic

    Sexist Tim Dunlop ridicules Janette Howard:

    You’d think the present Government would be ample material for these ‘wits’.

  102. Samson Agonistes

    Speaking of thrush, why is the slang for the organ to which that issue pertains the only profanity that goes into moderation?

  103. Rococo Liberal

    Well Token, state police are well known for their symbiotic relationship with the third estate. Likely that is how Williamson was given the tip.

    I think you mean the Fourth Estate. The Third Estate is the unenobled laymen.

  104. Gab

    The Federal gubberment went to the federal court to appoint an administrator for the HSU East. Does the gubberment now have year 12 students advising them on legal matters?

    *facepalm*

  105. C.L.

    Actually, samson’s sounding more and more like a certain Victorian lawyer of no particular talent.

    Julia Gillard?

  106. Gab

    It posts less and less the more people simply ignore its input. That has been quite marked in recent threads.

    Quite so.

  107. Samson Agonistes

    No, you’ve been rather boringly fixated on the same topics now for quite a while – slipper/hsu – dull, uninteresting and irrelevant.

  108. Samson Agonistes

    The nsw government has joined the federal government to disband it at both the national and state level so the boredom of it all may soon be over.

  109. Peter Patton

    All I’m trying to put my finger on is why their bad behaviour is deemed so much more unacceptable than the bad behaviour of the previous Coalition government.

    How about because the previous Coalition government is not right here today, last week, or last year done anything whatsoever that could be deemed unacceptable, or anything at all. Nor will the previous Coalition government do anything unacceptable between today and election day. That is because the last Coalition government no longer exists. It vanished in 2007, after 10 years of non-stop threats of all those ‘Not Happy John’ luvvies, threatening to leave Australia, every time there was an election.

    But here they still are – Tim Dunlop, Lefty Kim, p.kwigg’n, Philip Adams, Marilyn Shepard, Jeremy Smears, Sammy Sparrow, and Margo Kingston – all wanting nothing but more Howard!

    And no wonder. Howard ran a ship in tip-top shape, played as a team at the top of its game for almost a decade. The Howard governments were adult, professional, persuasive, and triumphant. Anyone of us can name any number actual pieces of legislation they passed, or ministerial policies, which we abhorred, but that’s what a representative democracy is. All we know now is that between today until election day, this current government will do nothing but behave atrociously, and will never, ever persuade any Australian that even one of them has an IQ over 115. So stunned have I become at their nincompoopness, I wouldn’t be surprised if Nicola Roxon appoints George Williams and Pat O’Shae to the High Court.

    This Labor government quite literally cannot organise a root in a brothel.

    So, put your finger right there, Mr. Dunlop.

  110. Samson Agonistes

    Boy crush for John, Peter Piper?

  111. Rococo Liberal

    Great post PP.

    I could never understand the left’s hatred until I realised that he annoyed them because he just got on with the job whilst ignoring the utter crap that academics and other luvvies chucked at him. They really hated him because he delivered the best government ever and wonderful economic results whilst disproving just about every left-wing shiboleth you could name.

    When the ALP returned to power all those epic idiots in acdemia and the yartz suddenly got gigs again, and what a total fuck up their mob has caused.

    Sinistra delenda est!

  112. Tal

    Hey good rant Peter 🙂

  113. Abu Chowdah

    RL, see nine posts above your last.

  114. Peter Patton

    Oh, isn’t he an unctuous cat’s-bum?

    Things have gotten so bad in our poor country, apparently, the nation is in such a dire predicament, that a leading journalist has seen fit to say that the prime minister should “fall on her sword”.

    A former Liberal staffer, a mainstay of media talkfests and panel shows, declared on national television that Julia Gillard should be “kicked to death”, a comment that drew virtually zero condemnation in the mainstream media.
    Violent metaphors dominate the discussion of the Gillard Government.

    A recent article in (appropriately enough) The Punch managed to use all of these expressions in the course of its ranting: “assassination”, “bloody execution”, “swung a sledgehammer into its own political heartland”, “knifed”.

    The poor wilting surfing pansy would have needed smelling salts had he joined my grandmother on the hustings back in the day. My grandmother was in a town hall audience of mainly Lavor supporters, which Menzies addressed.

    One sheilah yelled out – I shouldn’t be surprised if it was Eva Cox – “Prime Minister, if I was your wife I’d poison your tea”. Deadpan, without missing a beat, Menzies silkily replied, “madam, if I were your husband, I’d drink it”.

    Some toothless old hag yelled out – could have been Bob Ellis – “what are ya gunna do about ousing”? Menzies replied, “well, the first I’m gong to do madam, is put an ‘h’ in front of it.”

    I imagine it be the last righst for delicate old Timbo, if he ever got within hearing distance of the life and times of “Skanky Ho”.

  115. JC

    RL and PP

    However the Howard government really did mess up on two important matters.

    1. It was time for JH to go about a year into the 2004 election win and hand over the reigns to Costello. He should never have stayed so long.

    2. Workchoices was a disaster. If they had done the no worse off rule they could have pulled it off, but they didn’t and they were awful in the way they presented the new work environment. It should been a few pages at the most. They really fucked up on the most important economic reform since Federation and it’s singularly responsible for taking us back to pre-Keating years.

    I’ll add a third:

    Costello hired Ken Henry and he was warned not to by various people in the party but didn’t heed their warning.

  116. Rococo Liberal

    JC, I agree. But I think PP did say that there were going to be decisions and policies of the Howardistas that we all thought were wrong. nevertheless, les’s face it, politics is usually about getting 60% of what you want, and Howard got us sensible people (ie the right) up to 80%.

    Not since Ming have we done so well.

  117. Gab

    “Prime Minister, if I was your wife I’d poison your tea”. Deadpan, without missing a beat, Menzies silkily replied, “madam, if I were your husband, I’d drink it”.

    lol Lady Astor / Winston Churchill gig.

  118. Rococo Liberal

    One sheilah yelled out – I shouldn’t be surprised if it was Eva Cox – “Prime Minister, if I was your wife I’d poison your tea”. Deadpan, without missing a beat, Menzies silkily replied, “madam, if I were your husband, I’d drink it”.

    I hate to break the news to you, but Churchill used that line against Nancy Astor, if Ming used it (and he was good) he was copying Winston.

    Disraeli was my favourite:

    A member of Parliament to Disraeli: “Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease.” “That depends, Sir,” said Disraeli, “on whether I embrace your policies or your mistress.”

  119. Samson Agonistes

    Menzies – a great exponent of the Keynesian approach and the mixed economy.

    Fraser – a great exponent of the Keynesian approach and the mixed economy.

  120. Splatacrobat

    Labor have perfected the art of self rogering.

  121. JC

    ….politics is usually about getting 60% of what you want, and Howard got us sensible people (ie the right) up to 80%.

    Not since Ming have we done so well.

    I arrived back around 2% and I was really taken aback how the place was really humming, deals were being done, new equity being floated and obviously new jobs being created. It really had the feel the place was taking off. This was even before the commodity boom.

    People can agree or disagree with their policies, but Howard ran the best executive/administration this country has ever seen I reckon- even better than the first two Hawke administrations and that’s saying something. The Cabinet was just first class and extremely stable. Howard was really a great leader in the way he managed those guys and they all took a bullet for him too, which shows the level of respect they had for him.

  122. JC

    lol… dunno how I got 2%.. it’s supposed to be 2002.

  123. Peter Patton

    Samson

    Boy crush for John, Peter Piper?

    I was living in London in 1996, I’d only voted a few times in my life, but I was an absolutely besotted Keatingite. After Howard won in 1996, a mate and I headed for the 5th floor of Harvey Nicks, and drowned our despair in some grilled salmon, truffles, and a gram of chop each, washed down with two bottles of Louis Roderer. We vowed “never to return to the Land That Time Forgot”.

    But when the Hanson thing blew-up, I was totally flummoxed. I was like, ‘what the fuck is going on down there? That is not Australia? And why am I reading about it in the FT?‘ I came back for an extended holiday during the republican referendum. During that time, the whole catastrophe of what Keating had turned into, and done to try to get somebdy to love him – as the working class thought as highly of him as Dr. Zachary Smith from Lost In Space. So, luvvie bought his love from the luvvies. But he was so artless in it all, that when all those silenced former Labor working class people got 15 seconds at the mike, via Pauline Hanson, they grabbed it.

    I worked out over that couple of months, that Keating had thought he could replace the old Labor blue-collar, with a new luvvie class, based on racial identity. The man disgusted me.

    Thank god, Howard had the fortitude to neutralise a lot of Keating’s culture war trip wires. But I still do not understand why the Libs did not zap that whole class of bourgois branch-stackers Labor managed to sew into all public service, universities, and school; a new class of race-focused patrons, who now had billions from the taxpayer going to Keating’s luvvies on six figure salaries to spend their time pimping for the ALP, including distributing taxpayer money to ALP clients. That was how Keating was going to rebuild Labor’s base.

    But Samson, just for the record, I only ever voted for Howard once.

  124. Peter Patton

    RL

    I hate to break the news to you, but Churchill used that line against Nancy Astor, if Ming used it (and he was good) he was copying Winston.

    Well, my grandmother was English, and could get quite excitable, after a few Scotch and waters – “hold the water”. In fact, she could even have been there when Churchill said it, OR never let the second scotch get in a way of a good story. 🙂

  125. Peter Patton

    Oh, and if you must know, I think Bob Hawke is the best Prime Minister has had so far.

  126. Peter Patton

    JC

    However the Howard government really did mess up on two important matters.

    What db said. There were a lot thing I though were really fucked, from a policy perspective. But as a group of politicians, they were very professional.

  127. Labor have perfected the art of self rogering.

    … in conga line of suckholes

  128. MDMConnell

    Am I the only one who thinks Samson is not a lefty troll but a right-winger taking the piss?

    His posts read so much like Stereotypical Lefty Talking Points 101 that they can’t be anything else, surely?

  129. candy

    “Serf choices” killed Howard. people hated it and it’s a bogey man still.

    Also Mr Howard got crusty towards the end, and would not do the Sorry to the indigenous, which Mr Rudd did in a very beautiful, moving way, he can be very proud of that. A truly historical moment for Oz.

  130. candy

    might just add that Mr Howard imo a great prime minister and a great man, and if the title of “Sir” was still given, it would belong to him.

  131. Ah the apology – for something Rudd did not do, on behalf of people Rudd did not have any direct connection with, who may or may not have performed the act Rudd was apologising for, and which, therefore, Rudd bore no responsibility for. Perfect Labor style, that.

    And WorkChoices may still be a bogey man, but Labor has done their very best, what with the ousting of Rudd, the attempted ousting of Gillard, and Thomsonslipperblablabalba to replace it with fresh terrors, every day.

    Always moving forward, comrades!

  132. Samson Agonistes

    Yes, MSM, you’re the only one who has said that for the hundreth time.

    Congratulations.

  133. Jumpnmcar

    Well samsonite, tell your story and negate any conjecture.
    Give a summary of your beliefs. Too easy.

  134. Jumpnmcar

    Oh and can you Pleeeaasse put an end to the conjecture that you’re adrain from LP trolling.

  135. Peter Patton

    Ah yes, the Apology. Somehow, I don’t think our next ballot papers will include constitutional referenda questions written by the “expert panel” spastics.

  136. Samson Agonistes

    If you own the achievements of your country. Tim, then you also own all its errors.

  137. Abu Chowdah

    Fred Daly yelled out to Ming in the house: “tell us what you know, Bob, it will only take a minute.”

    Ming replied: “I’ll tell them what we both know, Fred, and it will still only take a minute.”

    Daly loved that anecdote.

  138. JamesK

    Ken Henry and he was warned not to by various people in the party but didn’t heed their warning.

    Ken Henry was the single most disastrous Treasury Secretary thwere could be for an egotistical, schmeming, talentless PM without any guiding principles.

  139. Peter Patton

    RL

    I’ll see your Dizzy-Disraeli, and raise you a Wiilliam Gladstone not happy Jan at Vatican I’s statmement on papal Infallibility. With particularly his Irish cousins in mind, Gladstone thundered that the Cardinals who voted

    in that moiety of the whole Christian family, nothing shall remain except an Asian monarchy; nothing, but one giddy height of despotism, and one dead level of religious subserviency

    The Roman Catholic would no longer be able to think for himself

    “nobpdy could become Rome’s convert without renouncing his moral and mental freedom, and placing his civil loyalty and duty at the mercy of another; and when she has equally repudiated modern thought and ancient history.

    The UK Prime Minister finally ended with these soothing and conciliatory words to the Pope

    the Pope wants to destroy the rule of law and replace it with arbitrary tyranny, and then to hide these crimes against liberty beneath a suffocating cloud of incense.

    Now, why can’t Julia Gillard talk like that to George Pell?

  140. James in Melbourne

    Fred Daly yelled out to Ming in the house: “tell us what you know, Bob, it will only take a minute.”

    Ming replied: “I’ll tell them what we both know, Fred, and it will still only take a minute.”

    Sorry Abu, that was New York Governor Al Smith.

  141. James in Melbourne

    A member of Parliament to Disraeli: “Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease.” “That depends, Sir,” said Disraeli, “on whether I embrace your policies or your mistress.”

    Sorry, Rococo Liberal, that was John Wilkes.

  142. James in Melbourne

    If you want a good Disraeli line, when Daniel O’Connell heckled him in the Commons, and used the word ‘Jew,’ Disraeli stopped in mid-sentence, looked up at him, and said: “Yes, the honourable gentleman is correct, I am a Jew. And when his ancestors were illiterate savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the Temple of Solomon.”

  143. I read Daly’s book ‘From Curtin to Kerr’ and he does indeed attribute that quote to Ming. Pollies steal one another’s best lines all the time anyway.

  144. Peter Patton

    Pollies steal one another’s best lines all the time anyway.

    Aye, just like ‘light on the hill’.

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