2012 in review

2012 was a great year for the Cat.

2,236 posts were added and we had over 4.9 million views averaging about 13,000 per day. September was a slow month for us, if we’d had the monthly average we would have cleared 5 million views. There is a daily pattern in the data with week days having higher views than the weekend. Our busiest day was November 7 – with 30 thousand views that day.

The single largest post was Albo gets owned posted on May 22. The other posts with a large number of views were various open threads.

Most of our readers come from Australia, then the US, with New Zealand and the UK close behind. Overall the Cat got accessed from 193 countries.

The single largest threadsters were JC, Gab, CL, and JamesK.

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152 Responses to 2012 in review

  1. Gab

    I need to get into a twelve step program for my obvious, yet hitherto unrecognised, addiction.

  2. September was a slow month for us

    August-September was the period of the failed migrations.

  3. Chris

    Do you keep stats on how many unique page views the site gets daily? Just kind of curious as to how big the community is here.

  4. Greg P.

    The New Years cricket Test should start today. Not on the 3rd.

  5. Alfonso

    It’s SL…does anyone give a toss.

    Will the ACB get away with these second rate rubbish Tests again?

  6. JC

    Good work Sinc.

    I guess that the good times are over once the site is finkelstiened though.

  7. Ellen of Tasmania

    Congratulations. Long may you run.

  8. candy

    Looks like Steve from Brisbane is a goner tho. I’m sure he attracted a lot of responses to each comment, heaps of fun he was.

  9. JC

    Was that version of steves banned. I thought he “retired” of his own accord.

    Man, he became all sour and bitter after his return from “boot” camp.

    *boot camp is where the banned go after getting thrown off here.

  10. Myrddin Seren

    Beetlejuice from Brisbane is probably off finalising his multi-volume indictment of The Cat for the 2013 opening of the Finkelstein Right-speak Commission.

    And congrats to all in the Cat Community – for as long as it lasts ! Clearly threads here are occasionally gaining some traction in the bigger media world.

  11. Cold-Hands

    It’s SL…does anyone give a toss. Will the ACB get away with these second rate rubbish Tests again?

    Getting hit in the hip pocket is what will reduce these second rate tours. Losing two days of revenue from the Melbourne Test has gotta hurt.

  12. JC

    MS

    I’ve noticed quite a few comments coming from idiots like Bill Shorten(ed) referring to blogs though not by name where he found the comments to be quite “offensive”. I’m sure he and others like him read the Cat and are horrified at the truth.

    It’s about the most unforgiving blog in Oz for leftwhiners.

    I’m also sure we’re partly responsible for Finkelstien.

    Fuck’em.

  13. candy

    Perhaps the match was “fixed”, the Sri Lankans just threw their wickets away with gay abandon, seems to me.

  14. Myrddin Seren

    JC

    Wouldn’t be surprised if more than one political staffer drone is circling the Cat looking for threads to launch against.

    May not be an official task, but as these are the people who organised a race riot on Australia Day, I am sure there will be no adverse performance review for anyone in the bounds of Parliament House spending some ‘quality’ taxpayer funded time picking up themes for daily talking point briefings and throwing grenades around here on the way out.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    We are far too inventive to be Finkelsteined away! Shoo Finkelstein, shoo.

  16. Tom

    Do you keep stats on how many unique page views the site gets daily?

    Jacques and Sinc know that number – I’d guess the Cat community — the number of unique browsers (IPs) — is 30,000-50,000. 13,000 page views a day makes the Cat one of the larger political sites with roughly twice as much traffic as joannenova.com.au, for example. I believe the biggest commercial political blog is Bolt, who gets about 100,000 per day. I worked out last year that Bolt alone attracts the equivalent of about 10% of Fairfax’s traffic.

  17. John Comnenus

    The West is in a terminal death spiral where big government destroys the economy creating more dependence on an even bigger government and too many people dependent to stop the growth of government. This is as vicious an economic circle as has ever been seen. It is terminal in most of Europe, looks like it is heading there in the USA – and we will have a chance to slow it down, because Abbott and the LNP won’t reverse the trend – just slow it.

    The Left can never propose spending cuts because they know that spending buys votes that gives them power. In fact the Left can do anything but cut spending.

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    John C, so it is round and round and round and down the plughole for our mendicant culture then? Until another movement starts to jackboot down the hardline commo-fascist left power holders, and that movement just as ugly?

    It all has shades of a replay to me, one that doesn’t bear thinking on. Although, in another scenario, with globalisation in play, those nations not deeply engaging in the plughole spiral may be where many flee with their funds and energies, perhaps leaving the West to expire with an economic whimper, hoist on its own cultural petard; while tribal Islamism marches apace as another haunting spectre.

  19. Catallaxy Files is the busiest site on the Ozblogistan servers.

    You all like to chat a lot and there’s a steady flow from Andrew Bolt, augmented by spikes when he links in a story.

  20. Alfonso

    Bolt’s a wowser….bugger.

  21. stackja

    Andrew Bolt has been knifed by the left. Here the comment is allowed to be vigorous. No moderation!

  22. Alfonso

    I’m about as left as a Hayek puppet Genghis Khan.

    He’s a thumbsucker re alcohol.

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  24. boy on a bike

    Were you ever in danger of running out of bold tags?

  25. Greg P.

    Andrew Bolt has been knifed by the left.

    Must hurt when it comes from your own side.

  26. Tiny Dancer

    I was in danger of hurting myself from laughing too much

  27. JC

    Fuck off Greg, you delusional mooching twerp.

  28. Tom

    Ha ha, Tiny. In fact, my observation is that Dogshit appears to be having an existential crisis as it becomes clear that no-one actually reads his site, except for SteveC, who’s also missing from the Cat. With any luck, they’ve both been called home by their alien civilisation, having failed in their attempt to endumben the human race.

  29. Biota

    I appreciate Sinc’s committment to free speech, even from the boring trolls. I was going to refer to them a thickheads but I think they know exactly what they are doing. Only someone with a fervent belief in a higher good can keep coming back the way Monty and the tag team do.

    Maybe some soft moderation could be used to keep replies somewhat on topic. A bit like what happens occasionally on WUWT (Moderator: Snip….go away!).

    Maybe a bit like a parliamentary speaker keeping question time on topic. Come to think of it, there’s a guy I hear of called Slippery Pete who is at a bit of a loose end. Seems he has had some Speaker experience. Maybe you could ask him Sinc 🙂

  30. Rafe

    My favorite stat is the monthly views because it irons out the daily and weekly fluctuations and it indicates a very satisfying trend over the last two years. December and January are slow months, my website stats practically die at this time of year. It will be interesting to see if we have reached a plateau or whether the march onward and upward will resume after the break.

    Just for camparison, my site started in 2002 and after a couple of years of growth settled down to attract 45k to 50K visits per annum.

    Total visits are up to 450K. It is very hard to say what this means because the majority of visitors only look at one page (out of more than 100).

  31. Tom

    The current 400,000 page views per month average is a solid foundation for a commercial site, with gross revenue of $500K p.a. realisable without any extra workload for the owners and without pissing off the audience through judicious ad placement if it is done correctly.

  32. Gab

    The current 400,000 page views

    Tom, is a page view what happens every time the page gets refreshed? (F5)

  33. Tom

    Every viewing of every page by every browser is metered electronically as a page view and is the basic commercial unit in online publishing. The rack rate for advertising is $50/CPM (per 1000 page views) per average size display ad with up to three ads per page in most systems. Discount that by a third (no gets the rack rate) and you have the commercial potential that I calculated. From that you must subtract the ridiculous commissions of the online advertising agency sharks, who take up to 45%.

  34. rafiki

    Hmmn. I realise that you don’t do any more than point it out, but noting that ‘JC’ is a large threadster detracts from the credibility of Catallaxy. His/her frequent use of foul abuse should have no place on a libertarian site.

  35. sdfc

    I’m surprised Steve from Brisbane is not in the top 4.

    My early bet is that Alice will be in there for 2013.

  36. Tom

    A spade is called a spade here, Rafiki. It is not a polite leftwing academic staff club like the Conversation and other tax-funded echo-chambers for government sycophants.

  37. Tom

    Gab, I just realised I didn’t answer your question: Yes, if you refresh your browser, you are calling up a new version of the page you’re viewing, which is a new page view.

  38. $50/CPM (per 1000 page views)

    What? No. CPM rates are a fraction of that and will continue plunge like a rock.

  39. Tom

    Jacques, junk advertising rates — i.e. Google Adsense rates for publishers — are indeed a fraction of that. Google was the first to do what it is doing, hence it has a virtual monopoly because of its global reach. If you want your ad on a page full of junk content, you can pay junk ad rates. If you want your ad next to quality content, you have to pay proper rates. Except that the publishers of quality (i.e. expensive to produce) content have allowed access to their sites by junk advertising companies like Google because of its monopoly reach. This situation will be shaken down in the next 10 years and Google will be fucked off out of our lives — but not before publishers stop bending over for these bottom feeders.

  40. Tom

    Sample online ad rates for an online-only publisher: Private Media (Crikey etc).

  41. rafiki

    Tom – I am afraid that I don’t know what a spade is. We must move in different social circles (Wilde, TIOBE). More seriously, I cannot follow an argument that being polite is a left-wing characteristic to be eschewed on a libertarian discussion site. Historically, think of the Chinese People Daily diatribes of the Maoist era, anything written by Trotsky, etc styles that were (and still are) adopted by leftists.

    Sharp and trenchant criticism is one thing, foul abuse another. The latter reveals a weakness in the argument. My comment was designed to provoke a response from Sinclair – what is your position on this?

  42. Splatacrobat

    My early bet is that Alice will be in there for 2013.

    No chance sdfc. MAlice only stays long enough for the gin to kick in then she’s off to wonderland.

  43. JamesK

    Woo hoo! I got mentioned in dispatches!

    I hope everyone has a wonderful 2013 except sexist victim Ms Gillard and her loathsome band of incompetents and ne’er-do-wells.

  44. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    JamesK – good to see you kicking back in again, after one brief re-appearance a few days ago.

    As Gab noted then, you have been missed. But guess we all need some occasional time out.

  45. m0nty

    As usual, Tom, you are embarrassingly wrong. $50 is nowhere near average CPM, and it will never get back there for a generalist site. Google, and ad networks in general, are here to stay. CPMs will continue to plummet as web eyeballs have long since been commoditised. It is the free market at work.

  46. JC

    Ummm Fat Boy just posted a comment. Great.

  47. Lazlo

    Ecomonic, and culture, one of the most significant events of 2012 was the death of Steve Jobs.

    Apple has peaked. The next e-dominion will come from the East.. This wonderful century.

  48. Tom;

    Private Media charge high rates because a) they have niche audiences and b) they have to cover their terrible overheads (offices in Melbourne CBD, lulz) and their fill rate (which is not 100%).

    I mean, my consulting rate appears to make me a kajillionaire … until you look at my hours billed.

    Most of the time they serve untargeted filler ads which pay somewhere between diddly and squat. I imagine their combined average CPM would be slightly above baseline. Certainly nothing like $50.

    For some time several Ozblogistan blogs were part of Graham Young’s little advertising network. Skepticlawyer still is. LP was.

    Same basic demographics / niche as Private Media: degree-holding professionals.

    Graham Young didn’t retire rich. Neither has anyone else in Ozblogistan.

    Unless you are in a freakishly profitable niche (mesothelioma, anyone?) or pulling down top-100 traffic, display advertising is a joke. Inventory can rise at an unlimited rate, eyeballs and advertisers do not. Supply and demand = constantly falling advertising rates.

    It so happens that this is the central economic problem that my startup is based on, so I think about it a lot 😀

  49. JC

    Jacques

    so how much would the Cat get for say a regular ad on a net basis…. money in the pocket.

  50. No idea.

    Not very much unless you went out and drummed up specific advertisers.

    And I’m not sure if “most of our page views come from the same 20 people” is a big selling point 🙂

  51. Tom

    As usual, Tom, you are embarrassingly wrong. $50 is nowhere near average CPM, and it will never get back there for a generalist site.

    Don’t misrepresent what I was saying, Monty. I wasn’t talking about averages, but achievability. The point I was making is that, if you run a quality site — that is, you publish information and analysis for a niche audience like this one (although this one is mostly opinion, which is not labor-intensive) — you are cutting your own throat if you are allowing access to you site for agencies like Google paying you $5/CPM.

    As publisher of a junk site whose content costs nothing to produce, I’m sure you hate the whole concept of what I’m talking about. You a professional shitkicker.

  52. hammygar

    Fuck off Greg, you delusional mooching twerp.

    This comment highlights the typical intellectual level of the commenters on this site. Speaks for itself really.

  53. Well done Cat. I certainly recommend it to everyone I can without making myself sound completely crazy.

  54. And not that I am agreeing with Hammygar, but this site could go from great to awesome in one stroke if people could just keep those comments to themselves.

  55. John Comnenus

    2012 was the year we learnt how stupid, reckless and irresponsible Americans are.

  56. Alice

    Ooh Honey Honey

    had you not said what you just said about people beng polite etc…. I had a ripper of an inult heading splatocrats way.

    He is so plastered most of the time (probably on fruity lexia around a campsite under a bridge somewhere) he probably wouldnt have noticed it anyway.

  57. Alice

    Agree with that Mr Commenus

  58. JC

    Make a semi intelligent comment, Kero Boy and you wouldn’t get a tongue lashing.

    Only morons receive abuse.

    Arguments aren’t of equal worth, you dummy.

    Greg P is a sermonizing leftist moron and fully deserves being called out for it. And so do you, Kero.

  59. Tiny Dancer

    Alice, you would be the last person to accuse someone of being a drunk or a dope head.

  60. Gab

    people could just keep those comments to themselves.

    It’s a feature, not a fault. The fact that we can speak freely.

  61. Biota

    Really, a good NY resolution for our tender wilting violet trolls would be to toughen up, and earn some respect rather than demanding it. To quote Dear Leader,

    don’t write crap

    .

  62. hammygar

    It’s a feature, not a fault. The fact that we can speak freely.

    My comment is still valid. Your so-called free speech demonstrates how vacuous many commenters are here.

  63. Tiny Dancer

    You don’t like it Hammy then get the kero and get on with it

  64. Tom

    The left just hate the fact that they can’t control the language here, the thinking being if they can just control our language, they can control our minds. It’s the left irresistible inner totalitarian. This is why we have the spectre of leftwing media from Fairfax down barracking for Finkelstein, even though it will eventually be used against them.

    Leftism is a mental illness.

  65. Gab

    Hammy said:

    how vacuous many commenters are here.

    And then Hammy said:

    This comment highlights the typical intellectual level of the commenters on this site.

    As usual, it’s perfectly fine when lefties do that which they accuse others of perpetrating.

  66. Alice

    Tiny dancer what JC said to Hammy (keroboy) applies more to you “conehead”.
    Conehead has the nerve to accuse me of his own activities.
    I think most know who pulls on what now conehead.

  67. Tiny Dancer

    Suck in another one Alice

    He is so plastered most of the time (probably on fruity lexia around a campsite under a bridge somewhere) he probably wouldnt have noticed it anyway.

    your brain is mush. Not only are you stupid, you’re also a hypocrite. You’re as dull as Hammy although in your case it’s self inflicted. Keep your head in the bucket.

  68. mct

    It’s a feature, not a fault. The fact that we can speak freely.

    Yes, that’s true Gab. But it doesn’t make it mandatory.

    The constant pointless invective, I agree with OHH, rather detracts from the site.

    Now, the odd piece of pointless invective… no problem at all. Even better if it is witty.

  69. Jannie

    Whoever invited Malice, dance with her or take her home.

  70. Gab

    But it doesn’t make it mandatory.

    It isn’t mandatory; it’s free will.

    The constant pointless invective,

    Mostly it’s witty with the odd exception, however I believe your lot are just taking it too seriously. Your lot are dour.

    the odd piece of pointless invective… no problem at all. Even better if it is witty.

    And who is the arbiter of wit and how often is “odd” judged? And by whom? The precious little lefty petals clanging on and making the loudest noise?

  71. val majkus

    2012 was the year we learnt how stupid, reckless and irresponsible Americans are

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/stockholm_syndrome.html

    But on this, the first day of 2013, after four years of following closely, and blogging about, the machinations of government at all levels, the temptation to give up and go over to the dark side is great.

    I am tired of attending meetings of our city and county governments. I am fed up with putting myself on the line by speaking out against their profligate spending and misuse of public funds, their failure to defend us from the radical leftwing United Nations agenda, their decisions to favor the financial manipulations of those with power at the expense of those who have none. I am worn out from following the Greek labyrinth that is state government when all that I ever find at its center is a big bull. As for my efforts to point out the dire consequences of the self-serving politics at the federal level, I am as a voice crying in the wilderness. Why should I distress myself (and my husband and anybody else who will listen) having opinions contrary to the inexorable status quo when our commissioners, representatives, governor, and president treat my calls and emails as interruptions of their day?

    Many of the best and brightest — at all levels of government — seem helpless to do anything, including even getting elected in the first place. The worst of them, which are most of them, are incompetent or corrupt, take your pick. The saddest thing of all is to see the worst of them keep on getting re-elected. Why? Are there really that many “low information” voters out there? Have 50 years of liberal bias in education, entertainment and the media produced a majority electorate that can no longer discern the truth from a lie? Do they close their eyes and vote for the one their finger lands on? Is it nothing more than name recognition on the ballot? Is being glad-handed at church on enough successive Sundays enough to swing an election?

    I don’t have Stockholm Syndrome. But I fear the majority of the country does.

    Question: Is Australia about to follow America in this election year?

  72. Biota

    Is Australia about to follow America in this election year?

    I think not this time around, but it won’t be too long before it happens. The current lot are such blindingly incompetent low-lifes that they will get turfed. maybe not a rout of QLD proportions but enough to delay the day of reckoning for a couple more election cycles.

  73. John Comnenus

    I’m not holding my breath Biota.

    The attack on Abbott is the most vicious personal attack I have ever seen conducted by the Left and media. It will take its toll. The LNP needs to start pointing out that it is the ALP that is all negative all the time. As Romney found out, being polite loses. Unless Abbott effectively counters the smear of him he will risk losing just as Romney did.

  74. Many thanks to both Jacques and Sinclair

  75. William Bragg

    4.9 million views seems impressive, until you despise that JC, Gab et a accounted for 4.8 million of them.

    More seriously though, congrats to Sinc and the Cat. There was clearly a gap in the market for half baked right wing bile, and the Cat certainly does society a service by giving tools like Rafe, Kates and other academic loonies, and their gullible followers, a safe outlet for vomitous rants.

  76. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    you delusional mooching twerp.

    Delightfully inventive, if you ask me. Deserved. Classically Catallaxian.

    O honey honey, let the Cat be the Cat. This place is a virtual soapbox, a confessional, a boxing ring, a comedy show, and a good night out at the pub.

    It’s fun, it rings true to life, it’s highly informative, and it’s edging wild. Comments come fast, intelligent and unpredictable; never dull. In its various forms the Cat voices a major contribution to Australian politics and economics.

    Let it be.

  77. blogstrop

    It’s obviously getting to you, Billy. You can’t stay away, just like all the other window lickers of the left.

  78. Sorry Lizzie, that “Riiight..” was meant to follow Bragg. I’m too slow on the trigger.
    I agree with what you say, and almost anything is justified if it amuses me, but, whatever.
    Personal abuse is the other side of the personality cult. I visit the Cat because more than most discussion groups the people in this one manage to discuss the ideas behind the human distractions out the front.
    Carry on. Happy New Year.

  79. Token

    Thanks William Bragg.

    It must be difficult reading a blog which the vast majority of contributors stand opposed to your favourite things.

    Dellers did a great job listing them for us:

    Rig public enquiries, hound blameless people out of their jobs, breach Freedom of Information laws, abuse the scientific method, lie, threaten, bribe, cheat, adopt nakedly political positions in taxpayer-funded academic and advisory posts that ought to be strictly neutral, trample on property rights, destroy rainforests, drive up food prices (causing unrest in the Middle East and starvation in the Third World), raise taxes, remove personal freedoms, artificially raise energy prices, featherbed rent-seekers, blight landscapes, deceive voters, twist evidence, force everyone to use expensive, dim light bulbs, frighten schoolchildren, bully adults, increase unemployment, destroy democratic accountability, take control of global governance and impose a New World Order.

  80. Tom

    You only get this level of arrogance from the left after the Marxists have hoodwinked their way into power to pillage the national treasury. This particular fuckwit has worked out he can avoid getting banned if comes here to insult everyone who isn’t a government sycophant only once a day or once a week. Now back to the losers’ ghetto for you, toolhead.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    There was clearly a gap in the market for half baked right wing bile
    multiple delusional mooching twerps to crash land

    Fixed that for you, Braggart.

  82. John Comnenus

    William,

    I thought you said it best in 1991 when you released ‘Accident Waiting to Happen’ on the aptly titled ‘Don’t Try This at Home’

    Funny how these days the target of the lyrics is more appropriately the Left rather than the Right. Could there be a better description about the Gillard and all big Governments than the lyrics f this masterpiece?

    I’ve always been impressed with a girl
    Who could sing for her supper and get breakfast as well
    That’s the way I am
    Heaven help me
    He said we don’t like peace campaigners round here
    As he nailed another one to the wall
    And that’s what gets me in trouble
    Heaven help me

    Goodbye and good luck
    To all the promises you’ve broken
    Goodbye and good luck
    To all the rubbish that you’ve spoken
    Your life has lost it’s dignity
    Its beauty and it’s passion
    You’re an accident waiting to happen

    There you are standing at the bar
    And you’re giving me grief about the DDR
    And that chip on your shoulder get bigger as you get older
    One of these nights you’re gonna get caught
    It’ll give you a pregnant pause for thought
    You’re a dedicated swallower of fascism

    Time up and time out
    For all the liberties you’ve taken
    Time up and time out
    For all the friends that you’ve forsaken
    If you chose to waste away
    Like death is back in fashion
    You’re an accident waiting to happen

    My sins are so unoriginal
    I have all the self loathing of a wolf in sheep’s clothing
    In this carnival of carnivores
    Heaven help me

  83. Gab

    Lol the lefty sermonising, vitriol and bile continue in the mode of the Left’s “civility”. No one demonstrates hatred against those who have differing views more than lefties like “William Bragg”. Incapable of coherent argument, of course, pure hatred being their ratiocination.

  84. Alice

    Tiny – you get what you deserve with comments like this
    “keep your head in the bucket”

    Keep your head over your bong Tiny.

  85. Rousie

    Alice: ‘No you are…’
    Lol

  86. Tiny Dancer

    Run out of gin Alice? On to the metho for you. You’ve got the Bob Ellis approach going well.

  87. JC

    Fuck off Bragg, you deadshit.

    I actually haven’t been commenting much over the past few months anyways, you dishonest leftwhining turd.

    As for filling in the gap… the only time the Cat goes downhill is when a moron leftwinger like you posts comments here that are laughable.

    You beta boy dickhead.

    You want more money, Braggs? Go fucking earn it.

  88. mct

    And who is the arbiter of wit and how often is “odd” judged? And by whom? The precious little lefty petals clanging on and making the loudest noise?

    You misunderstand Gab, I would NEVER call for anything like censorship, and am much happier to put up with invective than have that. The decision on what is written on here (within the limits set down by the blog) must always be taken by the individual.

    I was merely calling for some thought on the matter.

    And yes, lefties are all humourless little chickens.

  89. Gab

    I was merely calling for some thought on the matter.

    And I was merely responding to your thoughts. All free to do the same as no one here is calling for censorship, well no one apart from the usual lefty abolitionists.

  90. m0nty

    Don’t misrepresent what I was saying, Monty. I wasn’t talking about averages, but achievability.

    $50 CPM is not achievable for any but the most niche, exclusive sites, and even then not for the vast majority of its display ad inventory, as Jacques says. Asserting otherwise, as you did, paints you as an ignoramus.

    The point I was making is that, if you run a quality site — that is, you publish information and analysis for a niche audience like this one (although this one is mostly opinion, which is not labor-intensive) — you are cutting your own throat if you are allowing access to you site for agencies like Google paying you $5/CPM.

    Anyone in my industry who knows anything about it would laugh in your face at such rank stupidity, Tom. No ad network of any serious scale would offer $5 to a poliblog, to start with. You’d be lucky to get $2.

    No, the only way this site makes money is if it can secure funding from the government as an outreach program for sufferers of mental illness.

    As publisher of a junk site whose content costs nothing to produce, I’m sure you hate the whole concept of what I’m talking about. You a professional shitkicker.

    LOL Tom, you know nothing about my business. Although at least you had the sense to call me a professional, because I do actually make a great living out of my work. 😀

  91. Tom

    So, Mont, when an online news/analysis-style network (regardless of its bias) like Private Media puts up a rack rate of $50, you’re saying they’re only getting $2? I’m calculating they can get $20-$30.

    I take your point about a poliblog like this. In fact, Jacques concedes he couldn’t sell it.

    I’m sure you make a great living out of your business. I’m just observing that it’s a junk website.

  92. m0nty

    So, Mont, when an online news/analysis-style network (regardless of its bias) like Private Media puts up a rack rate of $50, you’re saying they’re only getting $2? I’m calculating they can get $20-$30.

    Take no notice of rate cards. Advertisers sure don’t.

    I’m sure you make a great living out of your business. I’m just observing that it’s a junk website.

    One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

  93. Tiny Dancer

    One man’s trash is another man’s treasure fantasy football site for kiddies and a dozen dougnuts.

  94. rebel with cause

    Congratulations to Sinclair et al. and thanks to Jacques for hosting this discourse. I don’t comment much but I do stop by for a read most days.

    As for the commentary re certain commentators language, this place has nothing on the comment threads over at Reason. Makes the comments much more fun to read I think. Personally I can’t be bothered with the effort of typing out swears but fully support the right of others to do so. Would hate to see rules imposed here in the name of ‘civility’ as the site would lose much of its character.

    Paul Keating is remembered fondly for his insults, Gillard is unlikely to be remembered fondly for anything at all.

  95. DaveF

    A successful year for the Cat. Congratulations.

    I lurked for a long while and only started commenting maybe 6 months ago. I found it pretty welcoming. Particularly Fleeced for some reason (no special reason, just an impression I got. Get well mate) above other people, and others were good.

    Language is less an issue than overly aggressive comments for mine – JC that would be you and a couple of others.

    I enjoy the comments for items I hadn’t noticed and found interesting.

    It’s also a very pleasant community of people who are happy to chat personal stuff as well as argue topical things.

    I seriously don’t like the troll Hammygar – avowed socialist who always retreats the field when pinged for it.

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Don’t change, JC, please don’t change.

    DaveF will go native here if he stays. One day he will just say: fuck it (dear me, excuse me), and let rip at some troll.

    Wait for the day.

  97. Gab

    Catallaxy Files is the busiest site on the Ozblogistan servers.

    You all like to chat a lot

    This is also a feature, not a fault. 🙂

  98. Biota

    Attending the Cat, Bolt and Blair are an essential daily routine for me. How else would I know about what is really going on in the world. I love the comments (trolls are basically invisible to me) and they often give me a good laugh, as well as being informative.

  99. rafiki

    You like invective Lizzie – OK, here is my go. You are a classic airhead. You remind me of a New Yorker cartoon of many years ago. X-ray blond to portly gent at a party: “I don’t have any interests or expertise – conversation is my forte”. Except that your conversation doesn’t amount to much. You tell us that you live in the wealthy part of Turnbull’s electorate, wear fine clothes, gallivant about the country, etc. Pretty boring really. And of course we only have your word for this. Most who do live this lifestyle would keep it to themselves, unless they have a deep sense of insecurity.

    Try to do more than just agree with whatever is the Catallaxy line of the topic, hard as it may be for you.

  100. Gab

    Oh dear, now you’ve done it, Lizzie. You’ve gone and upset the poor misogynist petal. Tsk tsk.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    You like invective Lizzie – OK, here is my go.

    Poor effort, rafiki. Invective is barbed, and your comment is merely stupid. It has no central point, other than to say I am not what I say and have no right to be who I am. You are wrong on both counts.

    When you wish to cross swords with me on statistical and epidemiological methods, or human genetics, or evolutionary theories, or post-modern ‘theory’ including theories of ‘science’, or the male ‘gaze’ in art history, or any other ‘conversational’ topic you might wish to discuss with an airhead, then please get back to me. Until then, shut up.

  102. Gab

    So it’s Epidemiological Methods for 100 then, rafiki?

  103. DaveF

    male gaze in art history?

    I’d like to hear ore about that.

  104. Abu Chowdah

    Rafiki, you remind me of another New Yorker cartoon. Two dogs sitting in front of a PC, one says to the other, “Nobody knows you’re a dog on the Internet.”

    Happy new year. By the way, did you know rafiki in Arabic means “fellow traveler”?

    ???? look it up on Google translate…

  105. Greg P.

    Happy New Year Abu.

    May your enemies face a firing squad in 2013.

  106. DaveF

    Oh GregP thats a silly thing to say

  107. Greg P.

    Greg P is a sermonizing leftist moron and fully deserves being called out for it.

    Think you’ve got the wrong fellow JC.

    I was just giving Bolt, an albeit drunken, jab in the ribs and reminding him they;re are chaps to the right of him.

  108. Abu Chowdah

    Good effort Greg, but I’m a libertarian, not a totalitarian. Why not send that sentiment to one of your friends, where it will be a better fit?

  109. Abu Chowdah

    Is the P short for “Prick”?

    Serious question.

  110. JC

    Oh you mean this DaveF?

    Language is less an issue than overly aggressive comments for mine – JC that would be you and a couple of others.

    Yea I saw it earlier and basically ignored it.

    As I said it changed my life and complete outlook on things. I’ll a bit harder now.

  111. DaveF

    Greg be careful. This crew is right of Bolt.

  112. Greg P.

    That’s real hard dewd.

  113. Greg P.

    zzz…maybe there’s a product disclosure statement lying around to read.

  114. DaveF

    As I said it changed my life and complete outlook on things. I’ll a bit harder now.

    OK. JC.

    I have a problem with your aggressiveness on commenters. None of yours are smooth or casual..hell, always pushy.

    Always language and harsh.

    Please consider and share your opinion.

  115. Bitchy, bitchy, bitchy. I suspect a lot of you are actually Syrian lesbians.

    NTTAWWT.

  116. DaveF

    Nah Greg just letting you know lol

  117. Greg P.

    to the right of Bolt economically but do you think socially?

  118. JC

    DaveF

    Okay let me think about that and I’ll get back, as it seems to be bothering you.

    I just thought about it.

    Fuck right off and mind your own business. I’ll comment how I like whenwver I like at the moderator’s discretion.

    If you don’t like what I have to say then don’t read it. Skip over it you interfering busy body.

  119. DaveF

    OK JC

    busy body is a tough call.

  120. Abu Chowdah

    Hey, I asked a serious question. Is there a problem here, Prick?

  121. Greg P.

    I’m cool aboooooo….

  122. JC

    No, it’s not a tough call at all DaveF. It’s an easy call. You’re trying to modify someone’s behavior because it doesn’t agree with your sensibilities.

    It’s not your blog and if you don’t like it you are free to start your own where you set the rules or migrate back to Bolt’s, which is I presume where you came from in the first place.

    And you do seem to be a busy body interfering old aunt from he few comments of yours I’ve read.

  123. Abu Chowdah

    Okay then, no worries matey.

  124. Greg P.

    I’ve had 12 beers so assuming you’re sober you’re only half a definition off IQ wise.

  125. Greg P.

    ie now’s your best chance.

  126. Greg P.

    That’s how smart I am, swiftly evading Finkelstein whence drunk.

  127. DaveF

    Settle JC

    Most people don’t say fuck. They have real sentecsences. Not language. It isn’t a huge deal but I find it rough.

  128. DaveF

    Actually JC I’ll give up on commenting here.

    Good for you?

  129. JC

    Most people don’t say fuck.

    And some people do. Let me know if we’re playing follow the leader here sport.

    They have real sentecsences.

    So you’re saying fuck invalidates a “real” sentence?

    It isn’t a huge deal but I find it rough.

    Skip over it then. No one forces you read other peoples comments. There are lot’s of commenters I don’t read. I find yours a tad on the dull side for instance so i tend to skip over them. My bad?

    DaveF you’re a newbie here who appears to be a Bolt refugee. Stop trying to reorganize the furniture as it isn’t your call and just as importantly it falling on deaf ears.

  130. JC

    Actually JC I’ll give up on commenting here.

    Good for you?

    Don’t care one way or another Dave F. It’s not up to me to nix or approve you commenting and I rarely read much of what you say, so please yourself.

  131. Greg P.

    I like you JC.

    Do you like me?

  132. JC

    Not when you’re drunk P and you admitted you are now. So why not sleep it off and come back here late in the afternoon tomorrow when you’ve slept it off and consumed a hair of the dog…. or a couple. 🙂

  133. Greg P.

    I’m not a bad bloke though 🙂

  134. DaveF

    sentecsences.

    Yes a bad one.

    DaveF you’re a newbie here who appears to be a Bolt refugee. Stop trying to reorganize the furniture as it isn’t your call and just as importantly it falling on deaf ears.

    Ta. I’m off.

  135. Greg P.

    Farewell not so sweet prince.

  136. JC

    okay Dave F, your call. As I said I don’t give a shit one way or another. Seeyas then and best of luck at bolt’s blog as i know you’ll do well there.

  137. Abu Chowdah

    How terribly, terribly… Sad

  138. jumpnmcar

    If there is one thing I took from 2012 it’s we Australians need to Harden the fuck up.
    To all those already hard as fuck, keep it up, 2013 will get worse before it gets better.

  139. Rafe

    Dave I think you should stick around, just don’t read JC’s comments.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Rafe’s advice is good for you too, rafiki. Just don’t read my comments. It’s fairly apparent you haven’t read most of them over the last two years anyway, or you wouldn’t have the peculiar deficiencies in comprehension of me shown by your comment above. Fair enough – that’s your choice and prerogative, just chose your victims more wisely in future and perhaps drink less.

    Now here’s an airhead topic for you, rafiki. Diaghillev and the Ballet Russe: what do you think of the collaborative creative work of Nijinsky, Balanchine, Picasso, Miro, Matisse and Stravinsky and how is this reflected in the ‘ballet battles’ of London society pre World War 11?

    Or how about some Roman history? Why did Rome fall? I quite like Bryan Ward-Perkin’s take on it, but not everyone is so sanguine. How about you?

    Or let’s talk about Alain de Botton, the philosopher you have when you’re not having a philosopher. His ‘Religion for Atheists’ – why on earth did he bother when there are perfectly good religions around already?

    I could go on, but the thread is finished and sufficiently derailed already. Besides, economics and politics is the main game on the Cat.

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    To all those already hard as fuck, keep it up, 2013 will get worse before it gets better.

    Yep. Exquisitely put.

    Happy New Year to you, too, Jump.

  142. jumpnmcar

    Yep. Exquisitely put.

    lol, never been accused of that before, thanks anyway.
    All the best to you and yours for 2013 Lizzie.

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