Open Forum: March 23, 2013

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  1. Given Newspoll’s volatility lately, it will likely be back up 3 or 4 % next time.

  2. .

    Newspoll L/NP: 58 (+6) ALP 42(-6)…rofl!

    Andrew
    25 Mar 13 at 11:10 pm

    It’s a fake crisis, I tells ya!

    monty and steve also say it’s winnable, a landslide if the polls move a few points either way. Quick, someone tell Ant. Green!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2013/calculator/?mode=overall&overall=-8.1&nsw=0&vic=0&qld=0&wa=0&sa=0&tas=0&act=0&nt=0&retiringmps=true&lyne=nat&neng=nat&ocon=lib

    L/NP 111 seats
    ALP 36 seats
    OTH 3 seats

  3. There’s a poor laptop having to put up with a dot emitted foam flecked spray somewhere in Australia.

  4. Lazlo

    50% Primary to the Coalition. This could be bigger than ’75. Maybe a fringe dwelling village of mediocre ALP members, like NSW and Qld..

  5. Carpe Jugulum

    Given Newspoll’s volatility lately, it will likely be back up 3 or 4 % next time

    Shouldn’t you be dragging your bloated corpulent body off to your nest for the night?

  6. WhaleHunt Fun

    September is a long time politically away. Yes the polls have not swung far in favour of our wonderful first blokes only non-ABC friend, but many a slip twixt etc.

  7. .

    There’s a poor laptop Pentium II Tower having to put up with an dot old perv emitted (redacted for politeness) foam (redacted for politeness) flecked Tony Abbot penis inspired spray filth somewhere in Australia rightfully in a sex offender’s register enclave.

    FTFY, you old pervert.

  8. wreckage

    Yeah all the ALP needs is improving numbers every week with no downturns and no nasty surprises emerging. From brothels.

  9. johanna

    Of course death rates go up during blizzards and cold snaps. (They go up in heat waves too.)

    There speaks the ambassador of our “low carbon” economy. He “cares” for the planet, but for humans, not so much.

    Funny, this effect doesn’t work in the tropics, where the temperature is stable and warm.

    The difference is in the availability of cheap and omnipresent energy where the temperatures fluctuate, and especially where it gets very cold.

    A winter in one of the Gulags, with nothing but a windmill and a solar panel for company, is just what you need. Hell, I bet some Cats would even throw in for some free comics for you!

  10. What a sleaze bucket Michael Smith is, by the way. I love (/sarc) the wanky way he writes his report like he’s still a police officer. Smith is obnoxious in style and content.

    If Smith wants to go down the road of politicians who might have had sexual contact with someone other than their spouse getting publicity, there’s bound to be a Coalition politician featured sooner or later.

  11. Brian of Moorabbin

    There’s a poor laptop having to put up with a dot emitted foam flecked spray somewhere in Australia.

    As opposed to whatever the sticky substance coating SfB’s computer keyboard is…

  12. WhaleHunt Fun

    Who gets to decide what constitutes a party and gets staffing etc?
    Can Abbott set the bar one seat higher than the Labs get and give the Greens and independents and looney Katterites and Labor absolutely utterly nothing whatsoever in funding and staffing and mail allowances and desks and pencils ? Leaving the bunch of them to hot desk one janitorial cupboard in an office in Quuenbeyan with no taxi allowance?

  13. Gab

    Onya, SFB. You just keep that rage, rage against the dying of the light going.

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    50% Primary to the Coalition. This could be bigger than ’75. Maybe a fringe dwelling village of mediocre ALP members, like NSW and Qld..

    It’s a fake crisis.

  15. Andrew

    More to the point, I can’t wait to see that [no. just no. Sinc] Wayne Swan being put on the dole queue.

  16. Lazlo

    Gee, isn’t the evening of 14 September going to be fun. Do we need to reserve front row seats now? Is Ozblogistan going to be up to it?

  17. Brian of Moorabbin

    The ALP used to liken itself to ‘the light on the hill’..

    .. sadly that light has had to be extinguished due to increased electricity prices caused by the carbon tax.

  18. .

    What a sleaze bucket Michael Smith is, by the way.

    No.

    Michael Smith is the investigative journo.

    Anthony Albanese is the MP who visited a brothel for “therapy”.

    FTFY, Steve.

  19. Lazlo

    It’s a fake crisis

    Pardonne?

  20. C.L.

    I don’t like anything he has done, said or indicated as Pope so far. (Shorter version for you all.)

    When I wrote my comment on Francis, I knew that imaginary ‘Catholic’ Steve would tear himself away from his (apparently neglected 24 hours a day) ‘family’ to respond.

    Certainly I like much of what the Argentinian has said. He has condemned abortion (sad news for Steve) and homosexual marriage; he has, so far, spoken three times of the spiritual warfare in which Christians are engaged with the Author of Lies. All of which is very embarrassing to pretend ‘Catholics’ like Paul Collins, Bill Morris and Nancy Pelosi.

    Straying away from the doctrinal (and salvifically important) to subjective opinions (which are not salvifically important), Francis is prone to the same errors as other people. A trained chemist, he knows ever less about economics than Wayne Swan.

  21. WhaleHunt Fun

    A fake is only a crisis if you are the owner of the fake. The ALP owns Mr Rudd and he seems to be rather fake.

  22. brc

    And how is carbon pricing going to hurt small nuclear, brc?

    Carbon pricing has zero effect on anything, because it’s not high enough to change anything. As with all agw horseshit, it’s all the stupid regulations that are the problem more than the stupid energy taxes, which are done in the tradition of getting most feathers with fewest hissing.

    I’ll remind readers that the nuclear debate came in because the wrongologist insisted technological change wasnt happening fast enough, to which it’s been pointed out clearly that this is because of modem day Luddites spewing lies and hysteria, which has been proven right for the rest of the thread.

  23. It’s certainly still a fake crisis as far as being able to govern is concerned. As the PM said tonight, there is very little legislation that the government has wanted to pass that it not been able to achieve.

  24. .

    Lazlo

    munty and steve put forward this theory that any sign of disunity and unpopularity of the ALP is a ploy from the Mudroch presses and it is a fake crisis – and we must question the role of Tony Abbott has in all of this.

    Whereas, they also believe Abbott is about to get dumped and the Liberals will have a primary vote piddling near a third party and the ALP can build on their record of achievement and win the next election 2PP 55%-45%.

    They are either turps sniffing retards are complete mental cases.

  25. C.L.

    Newspoll L/NP: 58 (+6) ALP 42.

    Ahahahahahahahahaha.

  26. Andrew

    I hate these ALP pieces of shit so much. Just thinking about September makes me all giddy inside.

  27. Gab

    Bit unfair on Albo. For all we know he may just own the joint.

  28. WhaleHunt Fun

    The pope’s a chemist ? Like a pharmacist chemist or just an industrial chemist?
    Pharmacists are utterly pure recreation usefulness in compact form. Industrial chemists can just make shampoo and cat repellant. Bit useful but no big deal. Which is His Holiness?

  29. .

    It’s certainly still a fake crisis as far as being able to govern is concerned

    Sure Steve. The op ed of Myles Petersen meant nothing to you.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/yes-minister-meets-alice-in-wonderland-20100220-omsa.html

    As the PM said tonight, there is very little legislation that the government has wanted to pass that it not been able to achieve.

    The carbon tax is a failure and it will be repealed, fuckhead.

  30. The latest series of Red Dwarf was still pretty funny, I think. ABC 2 running the entire show from the beginning has given me much pleasure.

  31. Andrew

    Bit unfair on Albo. For all we know he may just own the joint.

    The only joint Albo owns is the one he is smoking.

  32. WhaleHunt Fun

    There’s very little I want to pass that I haven’t, but it’s all still faeces.

  33. Lazlo

    They are either turps sniffing retards are complete mental cases.

    Dot, I can’t argue with that…

  34. dover_beach

    A trained chemist, he knows ever less about economics than Wayne Swan.

    That’s too harsh.

    As the PM said tonight, there is very little legislation that the government has wanted to pass that it not been able to achieve.

    Yes, this government is ‘good’ because of the many thousands of pages of legislation it has passed.

  35. .

    As with all agw horseshit, it’s all the stupid regulations that are the problem more than the stupid energy taxes, which are done in the tradition of getting most feathers with fewest hissing.

    Exactly.

    I wish more people knew about the idiotic MRET or the agriculture specific carbon tax/ETS rules.

  36. WhaleHunt Fun

    “The carbon tax is a failure ”
    No. Its a tax. It’s raising money.
    The definition of failure is now the MRRT.
    That is a failure.
    The carbon tax is an hilarious stupidity, but a slightly successful one.

  37. Andrew

    Nice to see my seat for the first time, appear on the Liberal side.

  38. Lazlo

    Because I agree entirely (in case you didn’t know)…

  39. dover_beach

    L/NP 111 seats (+38)
    ALP 36 seats (-36)
    OTH 3 seats (-2)

    That would be very amusing.

  40. Andrew

    36 seats, seeing more Liberals on the opposition side of Parliament would be hilarious.

  41. WhaleHunt Fun

    “ALP 36 seats (-36)”

    They will win 36 seats!!!
    If so then Democracy does not work.
    One seat should be impossible.
    Who are these people?
    Has she rutted so many as that?

  42. candy

    Be interesting to know who blames who in Labor Party for this poor result.

  43. C.L.

    It’s certainly still a fake crisis…

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  44. .

    If it ever got to 62:38 2PP, the ALP could end up with as little as 24 seats in the House, on the Mackerras pendulum featured on the ABC election calc.

  45. WhaleHunt Fun

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  46. C.L.

    Albanese in Thai “knock-shop” scandal?

    FMD.

    Well, so to speak.

    I mean, far out – this is becoming too much.

  47. Gab

    See I always thought a “knock-shop” was a place where they rebirthed stolen cars.

    Education is free at the Cat.

  48. .

    Again, a word of caution:

    The TAS seats in the House will basically be 3-4 LIB, Wilkie and maybe one ALP, as long as the Liberals stay ahead from now on in.

    The ALP and Green seat tally might actually near my dream of 20 or less seats in the House.

    If only the Libs could beat Bandt, then the dream would come true.

  49. WhaleHunt Fun

    So no one told Albo about the married unionists red reliefer?

  50. twostix

    I hate these ALP pieces of shit so much. Just thinking about September makes me all giddy inside.

    I’ve never seen so much pent up anger. Just the word “government” is enough to set otherwise mild mannered people in real life off into spasms mouthing off torrents of vile abuse.

    The electorate being so passionate about politics brings a tear to the eye.

    Will history books record the fact that an ALP PM was so hated that she couldn’t even set foot in the ALP heartland without a cadre of minders and secrecy?

  51. Brian of Moorabbin

    I would have thought it was going to be lil’ Timmy who would be first to be visiting a Thai knock-shop…

    Albo wouldn’t know what to do in there except rail about 457 visa holders taking the jobs of honest hard-workign Australian prostitutes.

  52. If I recall correctly, you were one of the people saying the media should have left that NSW minister who frequented a gay bath house alone, CL?

  53. twostix

    If Smith wants to go down the road of politicians who might have had sexual contact with someone other than their spouse getting publicity, there’s bound to be a Coalition politician featured sooner or later.

    Wait.

    Wait.

    Did you just say that the media wouldn’t print photos of a Liberal Minister leaving the backroom of a Thai “massage parlour”?

    It’s a bad, bad week for you I know steve but try and keep touch with reality you “conservative catholic” you.

  54. WhaleHunt Fun

    The nsw minister was getting cleaned up. It was a bath house.
    Albo was getting down and dirty.
    Maybe that’s the difference?

  55. .

    Did you just say that the media wouldn’t print photos of a Liberal Minister leaving the backroom of a Thai “massage parlour”?

    This cocksucker also reckons he had “explosive news” of an affair Abbott had, and he squibbed.

    What a moronic, lying blowhard.

  56. C.L.

    Yes I was, Steve, because David Campbell was a self-evidently tortured man, married with two children (his wfe battling cancer).

    The hook for the media’s ‘interest’ was his use of a government car – which was bullshit.

    I hope you’re not suggesting Albanese is guilty of anything other than poor judgement, Steve.

  57. C.L.

    If Tony Abbott was photographed exiting a business which advertises (according to Smith) “Escorts, Rub ‘n tugs, body slides & happy endings,” I’m sure the ABC and Fairfax would, like, totally not publish it.

  58. WhaleHunt Fun

    Maybe Albo works there? Something wore away that tooth?
    Guy does an honest night’s work, first ever, and you all dump on him. Blokes building a skillbase for post September.

  59. twostix

    Albanese in Thai “knock-shop” scandal?

    FMD.

    Well, so to speak.

    I mean, far out – this is becoming too much.

    It’s also being alleged that:

    A) The photos were suppressed by the media last week so as to not further infuriate the government while they were attempting to muzzle the press.

    B) Albanese backed away from the Rudd coup because of them.

    A scandal in the making.

    SfB has announced it a non story so in accordance with the Grand Unified Theory of Wrongology expect it to be front page on every major Newspaper within days.

  60. WhaleHunt Fun

    “reckons he had “explosive news” of an affair Abbott had”

    Albo and Abbott?

    Yuk!

  61. Cold-Hands

    If only the Libs could beat Bandt, then the dream would come true.
    discussion re. Bandt in da noo fred!

  62. Look, you dimwits: the media hears lots of rumours, some better sourced than others, about who’s sleeping with who, or visiting brothels, and chooses not to pass on most of them as not being genuinely in the public interest. We saw that with the Bill Shorten’s affair rumour, which he spoke out about (but not because of media publicity.) So, a Labor identity protected by the media, you say? Well, didn’t work that way for Campbell, did it?

    As for Abbott, they did not want to specify the crude joke that the comedian made about him and Credlin, out of not wanting to detail a widespread rumour. (Daddy Dave’s arse about explanation was that by not telling it they were helping Labor was ridiculous, and based on his not knowing that the rumour had been around for yonks, but not reported in the mainstream media.)

    The Albanese thing is something that should have no bearing on politics; and is particularly egregious because there is no proof that sexual services were provided.

    This is sleazy and pointless American style politics, and as I saw, everyone with an ounce of common sense would know that wanting to know the bedroom habits of every politician could well hurt Coalition ones too.

  63. brc

    Wow those Newspoll numbers are worse than I ever thought we’d see. Caution on Newspoll, it’s far too volatile, but it’s enough to make the people who dislike this government smile.

  64. C.L.

    As for Abbott, they did not want to specify the crude joke that the comedian made about him and Credlin, out of not wanting to detail a widespread rumour.

    No, Steve. The love media didn’t want to repeat it because they were high on Gillard’s ‘misogyny’ crack cocaine and the comedian’s routine wrecked the whole thing.

  65. brc: do try to keep up. Newspoll at one point in 2011 had labor on 27% primary.

  66. Gab

    I’d say you’ve earned every cent today from your ALP masters, SFB.

  67. The love media didn’t want to repeat it because they were high on Gillard’s ‘misogyny’ crack cocaine and the comedian’s routine wrecked the whole thing.

    Yeah. So that’s why they reported that it was highly embarrassing for the PM.

    Your logic is impeccably stupid.

    The Abbott/Credlin rumour was well known in Canberra circles, and the first people like DD (and you, for all I know) heard about it via the media was because the story about the comedian’s joke made the most sense if there was a rumour in existence.

  68. johanna

    Unfair to sex workers, who really do earn every cent, Gab. Snaggle-teethed sperm – yuk!

  69. The Albanese thing is something that should have no bearing on politics

    It has a great bearing on politics if compromising photographs of Albanese were used to stop his standing for deputy leader. It has a great bearing on politics if workers in that parlour were here on 457 visas. It has a great bearing on politics if any worker therein be underage. It has a great bearing on politics if any worker therein entered this country unlawfully. It has a great bearing on politics if our corrupt PM has managed to cling to power by using a giant dirt file. It has a great bearing on politics if our hypocritical PM, who accuses Abbott of misogyny after he glances at his wristwatch, yet again, exculpates any fault, wrongdoing, slip or crime, if committed by someone whose vote she requires.
    I don’t know whether any of these suppositions be at all likely; accordingly, I’d like this matter to be investigated properly.

  70. This cocksucker also reckons he had “explosive news” of an affair Abbott had, and he squibbed.

    But that’s all true. Tony Abbott has had numerous extra-marital affairs, including one with Peter Slipper. It was all documented carefully on Larvatus Prodeo.

    When Tony Abbott buys charity lollies from the doctor’s surgery counter at 3 for $1, he always – I mean always – takes 5. He breaks wind in confined spaces and blames other people. And that wasn’t even him on Bolta last Sunday; it was an imposter carefully made up to look like him. Didn’t you see the pancake makeup?

    How long must you people thrash about in darkness? The man is evil, and he must be stopped. Only a Labor government can save us from this one-man pestilence.

  71. C.L.

    Deadman makes a series of compelling points.

  72. twostix

    Yeah. So that’s why they reported that it was highly embarrassing for the PM.

    You’re the dumbest person on the internet Steve.

    This is right up there with your “theory” about Rudd being rolled not because Abbott had him on a hiding to nothing and he was going to lose the election, but because somebody in the ALP didn’t like him.

    The day after Gillard had a mental breakdown over mysognist Abbott and ensuing media frenzy and love in the ALP brass are caught laughing at a blow job joke about Abbott’s female chief of staff at an ALP dinner. You say the media refuse to repeat the joke to protect….Abbott.

    I’m pleased with your perfect record of wrongness. Small things like this show you’re still perfectly calibrated.

  73. Dear Philippa: I do not know how long you have read this blog, but I trust you have more sense than to believe the highly excitable dot in his recount of how it was mentioned by me, once, years ago, that I had heard a rumour that I thought potentially damaging to Mr Abbott if it was true and reported.

    dot has escalated this in his memory into something quite different, and several Catallaxy readers need smelling salts at the very thought that there should be a rumour about the fine, moral and outstanding man who will lead this country to a glorious revival, even if he’s crap at interviews.

  74. This is right up there with your “theory” about Rudd being rolled not because Abbott had him on a hiding to nothing and he was going to lose the election, but because somebody in the ALP didn’t like him.

    You’re the last person left in Australia to believe this. You’re not very bright.

  75. Gab

    SFB, you forgot to preface that smarmy little statement of yours with:

    This just in from ALP Head Office

  76. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “ONE of the major threats to the survival of the Gillard government has been removed, with Labor MP Robert McClelland’s losing his bid for a top NSW judicial appointment.

    It is believed the NSW government, despite believing he was qualified, didn’t want to be responsible for any action that could have created instability in the federal government.” (today’s Tele)

    Fatty O’Barrell proves to be the gutless busted he appears to be.

  77. Perhaps I should have said, you’re the last person in Australian left who doesn’t believe Rudd was shafted for being an unbearable man to work for who ran a shambolic office.

  78. C.L.

    How is keeping McClelland off the bench (and compulsorily quiet) advantageous to Gillard?

  79. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    No by-election C.L.

    If McClelland went on time to take up the role there’d be a by election.

  80. twostix

    Perhaps I should have said, you’re the last person in Australian left who doesn’t believe Rudd was shafted for being an unbearable man to work for who ran a shambolic office.

    So nothing to do with the imminent loss of the 2010 election to the new and at the time all round ridiculed (by you especially) “unelectable” Tony Abbott.

    Yes, I can see you’re perfectly calibrated. Keep up the good work.

    Any more gems for us tonight? Tell us oh wrongologist, how long before the Albanese / Gillard blackmail rub and tug scandal blows up?

  81. Dear Philippa: I do not know how long you have read this blog, but I trust you have more sense than to believe the highly excitable dot in his recount of how it was mentioned by me, once, years ago, that I had heard a rumour that I thought potentially damaging to Mr Abbott if it was true and reported.

    But Steve, as I said, IT’S ALL TRUE. You are completely right. There are photos somewhere. Or video. Or texts. Or something. I’m sure it wouldn’t be such a strong rumour if there weren’t something in it.

    Tony Abbott also likes to drive slowly around poor neighbourhoods, laughing with a menacing ‘mwhahahahahaha!’ out the open car window as he soaks all their superannuation accounts via WiFi.

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