July 4 Forum

… But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. …

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671 Responses to July 4 Forum

  1. Armadillo says:

    “I’ve always reckoned it will be late November”

    Yeh Gab, I could well have to eat “humble pie”. What does “Sinc” charge to do a “site clean up” do you know?

    I do have a Plan B.

  2. pete m says:

    kae – thanks! i’ll check it out.

    Mick – they tramped all over Warwick and Stanthorpe – we also played lots of spotting games. They loved the granite rocks, skipping between creek beds, walking down 70 degree slope off Bald Mountain (not bad for 5 and 6 year old girls living 1st world life with few risks trusting Dad not to send them flying off the mountain) seeing the Gap coming, the big mountains, the awesome trees.

    Most of the driving part was pretty, but less interesting for kids. Got to talk to them about Alan Cunningham and his genius finding the Gap thru the range.

    So yeah, the tablets helped avoid the “are we there yet” game, but we made sure they appreciated the country.

    We hardly stayed still for 6 days – I think I needed the exercise too.

  3. brc says:

    If you get door to door electricity salesman, say you will sign up if they has a deal where you only buy the cheap coal-fired power, and nothing else. They do not have as scripted response for that one.

  4. blogstrop says:

    Tony was right to call out the Federal Intervention into the NSW ALP as being “Not a corruption fix, but an election fix”.

    That’s all Rudd has been hired to do.

    But it was amusing to hear John Robertson on the radio this morning welcoming the intervention and saying that timely action to rub out the corruption was a good idea.

    It’s not as if he has much choice. It reminded me of the old joke about having sex with a gorilla. It’s not finished until the gorilla is finished. About 30 days they reckon.

    But who are they going to replace the corrupt ones with? More Labor personalities?

  5. blogstrop says:

    And only after the corrupt ones have been convicted in a court of law. That could take some time, observing recent matters.

  6. Armadillo says:

    “Not a corruption fix, but an election fix”.

    Correct. Just clearing the decks.

  7. Gab says:

    Came across this/ Apparently SFB just loves Rudd now:

    I was quite impressed by Rudd in his 7.30 interview last night. His whole verbal style seemed more direct than it used to be, he batted away all the “how can we trust you” lines with ease, and there was a good deployment of the Peter Beattie “yes, we stuffed up a bit, but we are the best ones to fix it” approach re asylum seekers.

    I honestly think it would have been causing anxiety in the Abbott minder camp.

  8. blogstrop says:

    If you get door to door electricity salesman …

    Patiently explain that if their company has a great deal to offer it can put it in writing, since you do not conduct business on the doorstep, or on the phone for that matter. Under no circumstances show them your bill.

  9. Armadillo says:

    Cold shiver up spine.

  10. blogstrop says:

    As I mentioned upthread, the minions are all swinging in behind Rudd for now, knowing it’s that or perish.

  11. Megan says:

    Thanks Gab, for your sacrifice in reading that drivel so I can give the source of it the widest berth possible.

  12. Steve of Glasshouse says:

    If you get door to door electricity salesman …

    Easy..tell ’em you have a thorium salt reactor in the back yard shed..

  13. kae says:

    Gatton Aldi 😉

  14. Armadillo says:

    Another strategic reason to go early Blog. Even the “minions” must be finding it hard to stand by watching the smug bastard without one of them exploding. The clock is ticking.

  15. Aliice says:

    Blog says

    And only after the corrupt ones have been convicted in a court of law. That could take some time, observing recent matters.

    Now who could you be talking about? Obeid? McDonald? The brothel creeper who rips off lowly paid hospital cleaner union members? Slipper – the limo king?
    Well goodness me are any in jail yet for corruption?. Why no peoples. None of them. Instead we have a lawyers talkfest inquiry and by the time we all remember to ask what happened to the bastards, we will all be told “nothing conslusive to find here” move along…
    The rest of them that got away with it without being called to talk are very comfortably retired….

    Makes me sick to the stomach this charade of protectionist policies for politicians.

  16. Will says:

    Got to talk to them about Alan Cunningham and his genius finding the Gap thru the range.

    I don’t think the Gap would have been that difficult to discover. From a distance, it is a prominent deep chasm in the range.

  17. Gab says:

    Megan, it was just that someone mentioned how much SFB detested Rudd before gillard. Seems the “conservative” SFB now loves Rudd. That didn’t take long and especially since Rudd knifed SFB’s precious gillard.

  18. Aliice says:

    But it was amusing to hear John Robertson on the radio this morning welcoming the intervention and saying that timely action to rub out the corruption was a good idea.

    ahahahahaha

  19. John Mc says:

    Got to talk to them about Alan Cunningham and his genius finding the Gap thru the range.

    Wow, I thought I was the only one left with an interest in Darling Downs history.

  20. egg_ says:

    The later the better. We could end up with a better result than we would have got with Gillard.

    Yup & Rimmer’s working on that at breakneck pace…

  21. Aliice says:

    Gab it would appear Stevie boy wonder is just an ALP troll no matter who is at the helm

  22. Armadillo says:

    3 cold shivers up spine in just one post. Stop it Gab…….please don’t make me beg.

  23. blogstrop says:

    A brief look over at Bolt’s piece on the Red Cross AGW Activism reveals that the comments thread is an absolute sewer.

    It’s a waste of effort posting a comment into such a vortex of diseased minds. But such is the Bolta’s profile that he attracts all the slimes. The pity is that the paper feels there’s some value in just letting it all hang out.

    Oh well, that part of the blogosphere can be the flypaper.

  24. Armadillo says:

    Michael Smith’s had someone reporting from “The event – the Craig Thomson Gala”.

    The fundraiser had the attendance of Craig Thompson, Chris McArdle and 4 other people. Doesn’t appear that it got as far as the “speakers” getting up on stage (Craig Thompson and Chris McArdle).

    Anyone surprised?

  25. egg_ says:

    QandA Jakarta:

    Brought to you by Rimmer, the genius who put the “sugar on the table” for the economic immigrants.

  26. Infidel Tiger says:

    Has anyone else ( I doubt it) seen Steve Who Can’t Post Here No More’s, Sinclair photo shop?

    My God a psychologist could have a field day. I think he should be allowed back on compassionate grounds.

  27. Gab says:

    Yay, IT’s back. We’ve missed your daily musings and wit.

    And no, I haven’t been to SFB’s blog although I did stumble upon him over at Qwiggan wherein he’s now professing his love for Rudd.

  28. Armadillo says:

    “I think he should be allowed back on compassionate grounds”.

    That’s enough proof for me to stay right away from it. Did he “get into your head” IT?

  29. Andrew says:

    I really can not put myself through the Qanda in Jakarta tonight. It would be just painful to watch.

  30. Infidel Tiger says:

    Been busy, Gab.

    And I must admit there is only so much I can take of the slow motion train wreck that is our current politics. My New Financial Years resolution is to make a lot lot more money and spend less time abusing these cretins. And pay less tax. Much less tax.

  31. egg_ says:

    Snowcone simply trying to run defence for Rimmer via the Indos.

  32. Gab says:

    I wish you much success on your journey to enlightenment and material wealth, IT 🙂

  33. candy says:

    I don’t know about Steve from Brisbane and coming back … after all his deroragatory comments about Mr Rudd over the time I’ve read Catallaxy … and now he loves him … It’s hard to stomach. but it’s a free world.

  34. Gab says:

    Here’s some lovely pics of Abbott connecting with real Australians. (Scroll down past the Parliament house pics.

    Here’s a favourite – the expression on his face, the concern and focus is authentic; the body language is telling and he is clearly interested in what is being discussed at the Carer’s charity ride function; and look at the women and how engaged she is with Abbott. That’s genuine stuff right there, none of the fakery that Rudd is famous for.

  35. Sinclair Davidson says:

    My new years resolution is always to drink more champagne than last year, earn more money than last year and … than last year. 🙂

  36. egg_ says:

    the body language is telling and he is clearly interested in what is being discussed

    Any vox pops with KRudd for contrast, Gab?
    Just as that of him with his grand daughter & with TA, the type are said to be anxious when their personal space is infringed.

  37. dd says:

    Lesson learned? Possibly. ‘Tough’ teen begs to be freed from detention

    While we often criticise the judiciary for being lenient, in fairness in this particular case, the teen had previously declined a non-custodial arrangement…. it’s kind of amusing and sounds like he really did learn a lesson.
    But the interesting thing from the article was this:

    In May, Queensland Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie removed privileges from youth detention centres such as jumping castles and scuba-diving.

    “Our youth detention centres are not meant to be fun places. I want anyone sentenced to a period in detention to never want to come back,” he was quoted as saying

  38. nilk, Iron Bogan says:

    Happy July 4th to our American friends.

    On another note, the other day I discovered the existence of the National Institute of Circus Arts.

    Yes, you can get a Bachelor of Circus Arts, primarily funded by your taxes and mine. Oh, with a few donations as well.

    I guess we really can now send in the clowns.

  39. Tom says:

    Thanks for the reconnaissance, IT. More evidence (as if we needed it) that the Doomlord has excellent judgement. Please don’t even joke about allowing this diseased perv to return.

  40. Infidel Tiger says:

    I’m quite serious. I like it when Steve comments here. And mOnty.

    Numbers can take a hike though.

  41. Gab says:

    Here ya go, Egg. Here’s Rudd shaking hands with an Aborigine but can’t be bothered looking him in the eyes.

    Here’s one of Abbott. Love a man who can look someone directly in the eyes when they shakes hands.

  42. H B Bear says:

    Bachelor of Circus Arts

    A prerequisite for ALP pre-selection in 2013.

  43. kae says:

    Funny about those pictures.

    Tony Abbott is engaging with the person he’s shaking hands with.

    Rudd, while shaking the hand of the aboriginal gentleman in the wheelchair, is looking for the next celebrity/photo opportunity.

  44. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Tony Abbott is engaging with the person he’s shaking hands with.

    Rudd, while shaking the hand of the aboriginal gentleman in the wheelchair, is looking for the next celebrity/photo opportunity.”

    That wee example speaks volumes of the true character of these fellows.

  45. egg_ says:

    Ta Gab

    Pix worth 1k words ea.

  46. Gab says:

    Presidents cursing: An illustrated history [PHOTOS]

  47. James in Melbourne says:

    Steve from Brisbane loves Rudd! I can’t believe it. He has moved on quicker than a Mosman wife after the tech wreck. KRudd knifed his inamorata! Well, she was his inamorata. I am honestly astounded by this. Steve was a Gillardista to the bitter end. Oh, well, as she herself said, shit happens. But I thought his love was real.

  48. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Here’s some lovely pics of Abbott connecting with real Australians.”

    Thanks Gabrielle. Doesn’t the ease and genuineness shine through?

    As for the family shots up the page the pride in, and respect for, each other simply cannot be faked. That family is a happy one alright.

  49. Splatacrobat says:

    Morrison on Lateline tonight. Hopefully he will drive a tank through Carr’s and Burke’s border policy backflip.

  50. nilk, Iron Bogan says:

    Kevni seems desperate and debateless.

    Candy, that’s great! 😀

  51. Cold-Hands says:

    Caught some of Q&A on News Radio while driving home. A lot of Indo-bashing over corruption. However, the more I hear of Indonesia’s anti-corruption body, the more I think we should have one ourselves, permanently empowered to investigate Labor and Union financial affairs. It would do more for Labor Party probity than banning property developers (and their wives) from pre-selection.

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. says:

    It will be November. King Kevni doesn’t want to give up the glory any earlier. All the better for us.

    ————-

    Scrolling through, I was getting ready to take up arms for Ellen (of Tasmania), thinking what on earth had gone on that everyone was ganging up on such a nice lady. Couldn’t seem to find what she had said that upset people so much. Then of course I twigged – we’d had another trolly dolly visitation by another ‘Ellen’ and Sinc had mopped up. Which just goes to show that I was right some time ago to object to any other ‘Lizzie’ as an ID on the Cat. Our names and identities are important to us here. It can’t be beyond computing power to set a block on people coming in with the names of others (or near to them). It is certainly not beyond human intellectual power to pick an identity that is not already taken.

    I am glad that there is no other Lizzie here. Someone else may make a better fist of being me than I can, but they can go jump. We don’t know everything about each other here, but we do know enough to want to feel comfortable that the person we know by name is not someone else.

    Well, that is my huff and puff for tonight.

    Bunyip’s back, by the way.

  53. James in Melbourne says:

    Posted earlier on another thread, which unfortunately died shortly thereafter. But I wanted to set down my take on our Dear Leader (Brought Back By The Will of Juche):

    Every day, every minute, every time Rudd opens his mouth, Labor voters – like beer fairies when someone drinks a Canadian Club – explode and die.

    It’s the mind-boggling condescension; the grotesque narcissism; the pretentious over-analysis of everything; the ludicrous thesaurus-mined vocabulary, that makes his every speech a weird froth of verbiage devoid of actual meaning; the overwhelming smugness; the insufferable conceit; the off-the-scale self-regard; the insane, all-consuming craving for unanimous awed recognition as the smartest person in the room (and any room); the teenage levels of self-aggrandisement; the hilarious bigging-up name-dropping; the crass, bathetic, utter inability to relate to anyone below his perceived level, AKA everybody; the primed-to-explode grievances that fester behind the rictus smile; the ridiculous OCD of the just-so white-shirt-coloured-tie-and-navy-suit – unless it’s a weekend and it’s the ridiculous OCD of the just-so-khaki-chinos-and-chambray-shirt; the painful fakeness of the manufactured persona; the desperate fist-clenching as he suppresses the anger that ordinary people make him feel; the lightning speed to perceive a slight; the drawn-out hundred-fold revenge in return; the delight in humiliating those beneath him; and the cloying, fulsome, gushing insincerity of his fawning over other world leaders.

    Does anyone seriously think this man can be voted in as Prime Minister again by an electorate now wholly and painfully aware – which it was not before – of all of the above?

    Sorry, Kevin, it’s over. Yes, those cool kids at school that got all of the girls’ attention, with their pathetic muscles and dumb macho posturing and stupid, smart-arsed lines – how could those morons have laughed? – while you – YOU! – went ignored for all those years! You tried to hide your superiority and suck up to them, those nobodies! But you showed them, you showed them, how dare those stupid cows ignore YOU, you were smarter and better than all of them! You showed them! You showed them all!

    Yes, you did show them. Be happy with that. Because it’s over. Australia knows you now.

  54. Oy gevalt, James. Tell us what you really think.

  55. PS It’s his wife I feel sorriest for.

  56. dd says:

    It will be November. King Kevni doesn’t want to give up the glory any earlier. All the better for us.

    Nope. September for sure.

  57. Infidel Tiger says:

    James says it best. No more needs adding.

    We can all concentrate on other matters until the election is over .

  58. egg_ says:

    Q&A Indo:

    Tim Lindsey (Director, Centre for Indonesian Law, Islam and Society): In Australia we have a zombie PM back from the dead.

    You said it, bud.

  59. Gab says:

    Happy Independence Day, USA. Here’s a thought:

    We call it “the Declaration,” but that’s not the object. It’s the “Independence,” stupid.

    ————————————————————————————————————————–

    “All men are created equal.” It’s a self-evident truth. But it’s not the point of “the Declaration.”

    The point is revolution.

    We no longer depend on tyrants. We’re breaking it off. We are free. We shall govern ourselves.

    Thomas Jefferson cobbled together a series of non-debatable axioms, mostly borrowed from other writers, as a preamble to the litany of complaint, which, in turn, justified the action.

    The matter at hand is the action. It’s not what they said, it’s what they did. The preamble comprises the set up, not the punchline.

    The average colonial American, upon hearing of “unalienable rights,” or “just powers” derived from “the consent of the governed” & etc. would have merely nodded along: “Of course, of course, everyone knows this.”

    And yet, in our time, many seem to think “the Declaration” was penned to proclaim eternal verities about the human condition — a poetic tribute to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” — as if it were a collection of fine words about high-minded ideals.

    No! It was a rebellion against bad governance, against political arrogance, against oppressive laws, against restriction, constraint, and imposition without representation.

    We call it “the Declaration,” but that’s not the object. It’s the “Independence,” stupid.

    The members of the Second Continental Congress did not expect to forfeit their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor for stating the obvious about the “laws of nature and of nature’s God.” Their necks ripened for the noose because they altered, abolished, and threw off the yoke of their government.

    They counted all as loss to obtain freedom; to be absolved of allegiance to their government, to dissolve all political connections between themselves and the state which they had always referred to as their own.

    “The Declaration” offers exhaustive reasons for committing open treason, nonetheless, treason it was.

    Independence Day then is not a celebration of government, but a regular reminder — albeit a fun one — of the necessity to reject corrupt, abusive government.

    Happy Independence!

  60. egg_ says:

    Nope. September for sure.

    I suspect he’s looking for an immediate poll bounce to call a snap election myself, dd.
    He’s moving at a frenetic pace (even for KRudd) for some reason.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. says:

    Bravo, James in Melbourne.

    You’ve wonderfully captured every smarmy odious little bit of him.

  62. egg_ says:

    James in Melbourne
    #913123, posted on July 4, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Yup, sums up working with your garden variety sociopath alright, been there…

  63. Snoopy says:

    The Rudd mannerism that really gets up nose (apart from the reptilian lip licking) is the way he makes a fist. Instead of wrapping his thumb over the clenched first and second fingers, he holds it straight over the top of his curled first finger. It’s just so foppish.

  64. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    That, James in Melbourne, was a virtuoso performance.

    Fourteen lines forming the longest sentence south of the Tweed River, articulate and grammared proper – I’m impressed and I agree.

    Well done!

    And oy gevalt to you. I have no idea what that means but Philippa does and I trust her so I thought I should repeat it. I do look a bit silly standing here as I thump it out, slamming down a slivovitz and clicking my heels, but it sounds like it should be so uttered.

  65. WhaleHunt Fun says:

    I care little about the fact that Mr Abbott is an engaged and empathetic person, and more about his policies. It is nice to be able to like someone, but the damage they do is not interred with them. I fear that for many caring and empathetic reasons, Mr Abbott will be tempted to spend, where tough live and severe austerity would yield a better result. I would be much happier with Mr Costello as the treasurer in waiting rather than Mr Hockey. He has been close to Mr Rudd and not drowned him. He admits it himself. Not a ‘seize the moment’ guy.

  66. WhaleHunt Fun says:

    tough love, not tough live

  67. Gab says:

    Mick, it’s a Yiddish phrase, an exclamation of surprise or simply used to emphasize a statement. often used when kvetching.

  68. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “often used when kvetching”

    Of course Gabrielle … when kvetching.

  69. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    I love it when you are so helpful.

  70. Gab says:

    Yes. I know you do 🙂

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. says:

    the necessity to reject corrupt, abusive government.

    July 4th 2013, Egypt. Syria, Iran, Turkey?
    Civil war, anyone?
    No freedom is easy, nor is it always apparent in which direction it is best found.

  72. James in Melbourne says:

    I left out the nails-on-blackboard grating of his attempts at matey-Aussie-blokespeak.

    He is truly a malevolent ball of smarm, marinated in his own self-adulation, and a Hindenburg of bile and spleen and self-importance just waiting to touch the Lakehurst mooring mast of some harrassed underling’s mistake.

  73. Gab says:

    and a Hindenburg of bile and spleen

    but no gall bladder. So there’s that.

  74. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Lakehurst mooring mast”

    Sounds like something one ties one’s kvetch to after a jolly good day out sailing on the Broadwater. 🙂

  75. James in Melbourne says:

    Reminds me of when Randolph Churchill (Winston’s son) had a benign tumour removed, and Evelyn Waugh said, “it was a triumph of modern medicine, to find the only part of Randolph that was not malignant, and remove it.”

  76. nilk, Iron Bogan says:

    PS It’s his wife I feel sorriest for.

    I don’t. Nobody’s keeping her chained to him.

  77. nilk, Iron Bogan says:

    And I agree with everyone else (yay, consensus!). Well said, James in Melbourne.

  78. perturbed says:

    Steve Who Can’t Post Here No More

    What did he finally do that pushed Sinc’s Rage Switch?

    He is truly a malevolent ball of smarm, marinated in his own self-adulation, and a Hindenburg of bile and spleen and self-importance just waiting to touch the Lakehurst mooring mast of some harassed underling’s mistake.

    Please, oh please. Let it be AFTER the writs are issued, but while there are still weeks to run with no way back. And let it be public, so it can go viral on YouTube.

    That’s very well put, by the way.

  79. Gab says:

    Man talks with man in wheelchair.

  80. Megan says:

    Thanks James. I’m planning to spend tomorrow memorising those classic fourteen lines and reciting them the minute nanosecond I hear a single vowel sound from anyone in my vicinity that might just possibly getting ready to defend the despicable toad and his reprehensible conduct.

  81. JC says:

    Shit.

    The current decrease in years without chronic disease is rather due to “nurture” than “nature,” since less than 5% of the typically Western diseases are primary attributable to genetic factors. Resolution of the conflict between environment and our ancient genome might be the only effective manner for “healthy aging,” and to achieve this we might have to return to the lifestyle of the Paleolithic era as translated to the 21st century culture. [emphasis added]

    Low-grade inflammation appears to be a root cause of diseases of affluence, and this inflammation is a result of lifestyle. This inflammatory lifestyle is comprised of elements that are in conflict with our evolved nature, i.e. our genome. The elements include poor diet, insufficient sleep and exercise, stress, and pollution. Our deviation from the environment of evolutionary adaptedness began with the development of agriculture, but it has worsened with the Industrial Revolution and even more so with the obesity epidemic, which is only a few decades old.

    The authors conclude:

    It has become clear that most, if not all, typically Western chronic illnesses find their primary cause in an unhealthy lifestyle and that systemic low grade inflammation is a common denominator. From an evolutionary point of view, the current conflict between environment and our Paleolithic genome traces back to our brain growth and the ensuing intimate relationship between inflammation and metabolism. The present disbalance between inflammatory and anti-inflammatory stimuli does not originate from a single cause and can consequently also not be solved by a single “magic bullet”. Resolution of the conflict between environment and our ancient genome might be the only effective manner to arrive at “healthy aging” and to achieve this objective we might have to return to the lifestyle of the Paleolithic era according to the culture of the 21st century.

  82. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Man talks with man in wheelchair.”

    Too right. If that is what it appears to be the worth to Mr Malmgren, an old fella who has had his day and has nothing to offer Tony Abbott, of Tony Abbott stopping to speak with him is immeasurable. The ability to recognise that and to dignify it is rare.

  83. Louis Hissink says:

    JC, what distinguishes the human from the animal is the ability to abstain from instinctive behaviour.

    If they choose to be animals, then………..

  84. Fleeced says:

    What did he [SfB] finally do that pushed Sinc’s Rage Switch?

    He disagreed with him about something on Doctor Who…

    (just kidding)

  85. perturbed says:

    IIRC Blair was carrying an article which admitted he had NOT been beheaded: they merely shot him eight times.

  86. dover_beach says:

    Please, please, don’t tar all homosexuals with children as paed0philes….

    It’s interesting that these two disgusting examples of humans were showcased.

    Kae, I wasn’t. My intent was to point out the puff-piece involving this couple at the ABC a few years earlier, that this piece had been since removed, and raising the possiblity that they may have even been involved with the mentioned piece of research. The larger purpose is to poke a hole in the ‘magic homosexual’ narrative that has emerged over the last decade.

  87. westie woman says:

    I’m a cycling fan, staying up late to watch those men in Lycra in various races

    So of course I’m up late watching the Tour de France and just now at the presentation on today’s yellow jersey I almost choked on my chardy

    There on the presentation stage I saw one of the prize presenters and with my tired old eyes, I thought I saw Kevin Rudd!!

    And then I realised that our lovely bloke is in Djarkata not Montpellier….

  88. perturbed says:

    to poke a hole in the ‘magic homosexual’ narrative that has emerged over the last decade

    The original story was designed to tug at the heartstrings and shame those who objected to gay parenthood. The ABC had rainbow stars in their eyes and only wanted to believe the best, so they had no index of suspicion AT ALL and those who “wanted to believe” actively slapped down anyone who did.

    The red flag should probably have been that they adopted a male child out of a complete shit-hole AND almost simultaneously emigrated. If not actively running from something, at the very least they were trying to dust over their tracks and ensure they had (a) as little a “past” as possible and (b) the friendliest “present” that starry-eyed Luvvies could provide them. Yes, it means I’m going to raise an eyebrow from now on whenever publicly “out” gay men specifically adopt boys. So fucking what? If more people had been allowed to be publicly paranoid, these two might have been brought to ground earlier.

  89. Tom says:

    Remember the Lying Slapper’s “captain’s pick” in January — the brazen political execution of Trish Crossin to parachute Nova Peris into the Senate? It wasn’t just the first big fuck-up of the year by the incompetent, AWU-controlled puppet moll PM, but has become the rallying point for grassroots members agitating to end the control of the parliamentary ALP by union warlords:

    LABOR’S “faceless” men and women of the national executive may dictate the new intake of candidates for the swag of seats being vacated by former Gillard government ministers, with a push for centralised preselections ahead of the federal election.

    Despite a call by Kevin Rudd last week for a rank-and-file vote on the six Labor-held seats in Victoria, NSW and Queensland, some factional leaders are calling for the 21-member executive to decide the candidates on the grounds of time constraints and to spare the government potentially embarassing preselection battles.

    But there is mounting opposition amid claims that the factional powerbrokers are moving to parachute their own candidates into the safe Labor seats ahead of a push by Mr Rudd for reform within the ALP that would weaken the power of unions and the factions.

    The executive will have a telephone hook-up today to primarily discuss the federal intervention into the NSW branch, and the issue of preselection is not formally on the agenda.

    But it is understood some senior national executive members will demand assurances for a branch membership vote for candidates ahead of the federal election.

    “There is no way that Rudd can talk about reform of the ALP and then allow a factional carve-up of preselections,” one senior Labor official told The Australian last night.

    “The powerbrokers can see that they are going to lose their power under any reforms and this could be the last time that they can bestow their patronage.

    “A lot of damage has been caused by the ‘captain’s pick’, the branch members don’t forget and they usually don’t swing in behind the candidate.”

    The Lying Slapper: not only the leader of the worst government in history, but the most incompetent political klutz in the history of government.

  90. Tom says:

    Frumpy, old and boring Melissa Doyle has been shunted sideways to make way for fun, young and sexy Samantha Armytage on the Seven Network. Tough. Both knew TV was like that when they signed up. But now the feminazi victims union wants the right to force TV management to keep the frumpy ones. Of course.

  91. Lucie says:

    I’m not a fan of Melissa Doyle – or anyone on that dumb show – but she’s not much older than the blonde one. It’s true they would know what the industry’s like, but it is actually one area where the women have a point – it’s quite common to see old, grey, craggy men presenting and reading the news…whereas the women have to be young and “f$&kable”, as some (male) producer was supposed to have said.

  92. Tintarella Di Luna says:

    It’s the mind-boggling condescension; the grotesque narcissism; the pretentious over-analysis of everything; the ludicrous thesaurus-mined vocabulary, that makes his every speech a weird froth of verbiage devoid of actual meaning; the overwhelming smugness; the insufferable conceit; the off-the-scale self-regard; the insane, all-consuming craving for unanimous awed recognition as the smartest person in the room (and any room); the teenage levels of self-aggrandisement; the hilarious bigging-up name-dropping; the crass, bathetic, utter inability to relate to anyone below his perceived level, AKA everybody; the primed-to-explode grievances that fester behind the rictus smile; the ridiculous OCD of the just-so white-shirt-coloured-tie-and-navy-suit – unless it’s a weekend and it’s the ridiculous OCD of the just-so-khaki-chinos-and-chambray-shirt; the painful fakeness of the manufactured persona; the desperate fist-clenching as he suppresses the anger that ordinary people make him feel; the lightning speed to perceive a slight; the drawn-out hundred-fold revenge in return; the delight in humiliating those beneath him; and the cloying, fulsome, gushing insincerity of his fawning over other world leaders.

    perturbed I have sent this analysis to my friends with attribution to you very very comprehensive and accurate thank you

  93. Tintarella Di Luna says:

    Sorry James of Melbourne that is your analysis perturbed was my state of mind in these fevered fetid political times

  94. Steve of Glasshouse says:

    Since Kochie and Mel gave us Kevin Old 7, I have never watched that show.

  95. Tintarella Di Luna says:

    James of Melbourne Third attempt to the moniker right – I agree with Lizzie blogmonikers are important

  96. Tintarella Di Luna says:

    Oh God James in Melbourne I need help with this iPad but I don’t qualify for genius bar help until I do remedial Apple

  97. Tom says:

    Yet another leftwing website joins the campaign to re-elect Labor with yet another “fact-checking” service designed to attack Tony Abbott:

    Independent news and analysis website The Conversation has launched fact checking website Election FactCheck, to be edited by former Sunday Age editor Gay Alcorn.

    The move by The Conversation sees it join the ranks of Politifact and the ABC, which is about to launch its own fact checking unit, in launching specialist units or website designed to check the statements of politicians and other senior people in the public debate.

    Alcorn is the latest former senior Age staffer to join The Conversation, which was founded by former editor-in-chief of The Age Andrew Jaspan. Michelle Grattam formerly political editor of The Age now writes for the site. The Conversation is mainly funded through Australia’s universities.

    “Obviously there are now three sites, which is quite a lot really, but I think what The Conversation offers is a very different methodology,” said Alcorn, citing The Conversation’s decision to use an academic peer review methodology in its fact checking.

    “We are using academics who have subject expertise to do our checks and then we have a second blind review to do a check on their finding,” she told Mumbrella. “We are trying to do fact checks in areas where we believe academics can add value.”

    “The others are using journalists which is good and a proven method but our approach is different.”

    H/T Blair.

  98. Tintarella Di Luna says:

    We call it “the Declaration,” but that’s not the object. It’s the “Independence,” stupid.

    Gab thanks for that link I love the boilerplate headline

    to pull off the disguises of cunning, vanity and affectation

  99. Blogstrop says:

    We’re going to be kept busy checking the “fact checkers”.

  100. Lucie says:

    Yeah, Steve of Glasshouse. I think we should hold the media accountable for the dud leaders they inluence mug voters to support.

  101. . says:

    The red flag should probably have been that they adopted a male child out of a complete shit-hole AND almost simultaneously emigrated. If not actively running from something, at the very least they were trying to dust over their tracks and ensure they had (a) as little a “past” as possible and (b) the friendliest “present” that starry-eyed Luvvies could provide them. Yes, it means I’m going to raise an eyebrow from now on whenever publicly “out” gay men specifically adopt boys. So fucking what? If more people had been allowed to be publicly paranoid, these two might have been brought to ground earlier.

    If we ban children, there will be no sexual abuse of children.

  102. Leigh Lowe says:

    Frumpy, old and boring Melissa Doyle has been shunted sideways to make way for fun, young and sexy Samantha Armytage on the Seven Network. Tough. Both knew TV was like that when they signed up. But now the feminazi victims union wants the right to force TV management to keep the frumpy ones. Of course.

    Sympathy factor low.
    She was offered a $150,000 pay cut to move to another job on the network.
    God knows what she was earning as an autocue reader to be able to accommodate a downgrade of 150 large, but it hasn’t got me rushing to man the barricades.

  103. Blogstrop says:

    IT can’t be the real IT. This one who’s back must be like one of those posssessed zombies from Men In Black, with a bug called sfb inside his head. Stop it at once, IT. The campaign to get him squashed took time, as is the numbers push.

  104. Tom says:

    So The Conversation is using the highly respected academic “peer review” system (hahahahahahahaha!!!) to spin the truth and call it fact-checking:

    “We are using academics who have subject expertise to do our checks and then we have a second blind review to do a check on their finding,” (fact-checker Gay Alcorn) told Mumbrella.

    And the first task, of course, was to assure Greens voters that those 45,000 illegal immigrants are definitely not country shoppers — and therefore aren’t responding to “pull” factors (dogwhistle: the Coalition are vicious racists):

    The first fact check carried out by The Conversation was into foreign minister Bob Carr’s statement that many asylum seekers being smuggled by boat are actually economic refugees. It concluded that “based on the available information”, Carr’s statement was incorrect.

    This grotesque propaganda is so bad it’s funny.

  105. Tintarella Di Luna says:

    In less than 200 words is set out simply and clearly what we need to do for children and that mankind owes to the Child the best that it has to give

    Adopted 26 September, 1924, League of Nations
    Geneva Declaration of the Rights of the Child

    By the present Declaration of the Rights of the Child, commonly known as “Declaration of Geneva,” men and women of all nations, recognizing that mankind owes to the Child the best that it has to give, declare and accept it as their duty that, beyond and above all considerations of race, nationality or creed:

    The child must be given the means requisite for its normal development, both materially and spiritually;
    The child that is hungry must be fed; the child that is sick must be nursed; the child that is backward must be helped; the delinquent child must be reclaimed; and the orphan and the waif must be sheltered and succored;
    The child must be the first to receive relief in times of distress;
    The child must be put in a position to earn a livelihood, and must be protected against every form of exploitation;
    The child must be brought up in the consciousness that its talents must be devoted to the service of fellow men.

    The words from almost a century ago echo to shame us all that children are still being submitted to the most inexplicable cruelty and suffer such indignities all within the watch of so many agencies auspices under the millions of words in Conventions, treaties and international and domestic statutes

  106. entropy says:

    So what is Rudd’s plan? Try to build his default selection bounce by holding a debate stunt at the NPC?

    Why should Abbott play that game? Instead he should go somewhere in North Queensland in the morning and announce an indigenous policy linked to the northern Australia one, or something similar.

    When asked why he won’t comply with Rudd’s demands, say something along the lines of:
    ” what’s the point? The hollowman will just pretend he saved Australia from the GFC, when all the taxpayers’ money squandered on pink batts and media opportunity school halls was wasted long after the effects of the GFC was passed, things which we still have to pay for and will, for years and years to come.
    If you want to know what really saved us from the GFC, go to any airport even today, and see the crowd of mine workers in their flouro safety gear going to work. They saved us from the GFC, not the hollowman.”

  107. Lucie says:

    Quite so, entropy.

  108. Tom says:

    I’m troubled by the betting plunge on an August 24 election — which suggests an insider is gaming the betting agencies — when the very strong hint by Kev Jong Il* is that he will wait until he’s forced to go by the Constitution on November 30 if the polls don’t put him in a winning position, which I think is extremely unlikely. Logic says he’ll wait until he’s forced to: he won’t volunteer to be defeated any earlier.

    In any case, both he and the Lying Slapper have already achieved their main objectives: him to be reinstated and her to be a feminazi icon in spite of her total failure as a politician. He ultimately doesn’t care whether he wins or loses this election, IMO.

    *I have declared Dog’s Vomit and TLS (The Little Shit) worthy runners-up only to my eventual winner, Kev Jong Il, which beautifully expresses The Little Shit’s sociopathic one-man personality cult. It was suggested here yesterday by ???????? (can’t remember who).

  109. entropy says:

    I think “the hollowman”is more appropriate for mixed company.

    Apart form being an apt description of his media driven persona, it also uses the luvvies’ ABC, which had a show called Hollowman set in the PM’s office, against him.

  110. Sinclair Davidson says:

    The fact checking service at The Conversation is a demand driven system. It represents a wonderful opportunity.

  111. Dianeh says:

    On Rudd’s challenge to a debate, Abbott needs to answer with a very short

    “You want a policy debate, then call the election”

  112. Token says:

    The fact checking service at The Conversation is a demand driven system. It represents a wonderful opportunity.

    Are they also lobbying for a cool $10 mil of public funds to do what people expect is part of the professional service?

  113. Token says:

    “As the Prime Minister of the country, I am deeply sorry for what has occurred and of course I apologise for these deaths, given that it was a government program,” he said.

    “Let’s not beat around the bush. This was a government program.”

    More precisely, it was a Rudd government program. The PM seems to think his own policies are as remote from himself as were the stolen generations.

    I do wonder how much grace Workcover will grant if one uses the “its a government program” excuse during its audits?

  114. egg_ says:

    Kev Jong Il, which beautifully expresses The Little Shit’s sociopathic one-man personality cult. It was suggested here yesterday by ???????? (can’t remember who).

    May have been yours truly initially but a few of us seem to favour that one. 🙂

    Rimmer describes his officiousness but Kev Jong-Il is definitely this sociopathic side.

    He said not to expect a magic solution and everything being ‘back to normal’* from his Indo visit, which is likely sociopath-speak for ‘I hope to have a magic solution and everything ‘back to normal”

    *’Whatever that is’ cynically by Steve Cannane on ABC24 The Drum, so Aunty still hasn’t forgiven him for the coup. /Another gift from the Left

  115. Token says:

    Steve Who Can’t Post Here No More

    When did things change. I thought he was on probation and had to one post a day. The problem is he is so daft he wastes it.

  116. egg_ says:

    Independent news and analysis website The Conversation has launched fact checking website Election FactCheck, to be edited by former Sunday Age editor Gay Alcorn.

    As we have a resurrected sociopath for a PM, they expect to be very busy?

    There’s 3 years on record from 2007 to 2010 for starters.

  117. Token says:

    A cheeky article on a serious topic:

    Texas is undergoing a rough, ugly battle about abortion. On Tuesday, activists for and against a proposed abortion law that would prohibit the procedure past the 20th week of pregnancy gathered at the state Capital in Austin for a bizarre shout-down. The prolife side sang Amazing Grace. The pro-abortion side tried to drown them out by shouting “Hail Satan!” I’m not making this up: you can view one of the confrontations on the video above and another via this link. Quite what Satan thinks about it all, we can obviously only speculate. But I’m guessing that even the Horned One would regard association with the US abortion industry as bad PR. More on why in a moment.

    …The abortion bill isn’t that big a deal; it’s already on the books in 12 other states. Charles Cooke has written a brutal take down of opposition to the 20 week ban, pointing out that a baby is pretty much a baby by that point (some studies show it can recognise its mother’s voice) and that a ban is actually supported by a narrow plurality of the American people. Women back it by larger percentages than men, which shoots down Wendy’s claim to speak for her gender. What she does speak for is a profitable industry damaged by bad PR that is desperate for poster-children like Wendy Davis to improve its image after the awful Gosnell case. Remember him?

  118. Armadillo says:

    “with a bug called sfb inside his head. Stop it at once, IT”

    Yes Blog, I asked him that very question last night. No reply. It was like it went straight through one ear and out the other (exactly like it used to happen with “you know who”). You have good reason to be concerned for IT (and possibly scared).

  119. . says:

    Independent news and analysis website The Conversation has launched fact checking website Election FactCheck, to be edited by former Sunday Age editor Gay Alcorn.

    I say we start up Election FactCheck Check.

  120. Lucie says:

    I don’t know who else suggested it, Tom, but I have used Kevin Jong il myself. I really do think he looks like an albino version. Can picture him singing a song like that one in Team America – “I’m so angreeee…”.

    “Ill” is how he makes “a bunch” of us “folks” feel, too.

  121. Sinclair Davidson says:

    The Conversation is calling for donations. That’s not the point. I’m thinking what a whole bunch of mischievous bloggers could get up to with such a system.

  122. . says:

    LEIGH SALES: Is there another reason: revenge?

    KEVIN RUDD: Oh, good grief, no. Sort of past all that a long time ago. If I was so sorta wounded by the events of 2010, I would’ve gone offer whimpering into the corner a long time ago. I’m a positive sort of bloke, get on with the business and had we been travelling in much better circumstances, then I’m sure none of these events would’ve happened. That didn’t occur. And I’m determined to take the fight up to Mr Abbott so that the Australian people come this election have a real choice, a real choice between what we put on the table for the economy and for jobs and for growth and Mr Abbott’s approach of slash and burn.

    What a malignant c..t.

  123. Token says:

    I’m thinking what a whole bunch of mischievous bloggers could get up to with such a system.

    I trust the system will be as effective at deliverying a desired result, and as open and transparent as the selection process for the Q&A audience.

  124. cynical1 says:

    “but no gall bladder. So there’s that”.

    Yes, I remember it well.

    It was touch and go for a while, but the gall bladder eventually made
    a full recovery after Kevin was removed…

  125. Armadillo says:

    “I’m thinking what a whole bunch of mischievous bloggers could get up to with such a system”.

    And especially organised bloggers. “Get-up” must be cheering. Another way to influence the debate at no cost to themselves.

  126. dd says:

    So we’re getting a US import: fact-checking websites. How’s that worked out in America?
    However Sinclair’s observation that the conversation site is “demand driven” gives hope. in other words we can put in reader requests to check particular facts.

  127. Token says:

    A FEDERAL takeover of the ALP’s NSW branch will be the first stage in a broader Labor Party reform agenda, Kevin Rudd has announced.

    AJ put to air today facts on how John Robertson brought down the last competent Labor state premier, and how Kevin stood by the CFMEU and would not take Maurice Iemma’s calls when he had power in the party.

    It is detailed in Rodney Cavalier’s book, so I trust Iemma and Costa will be ensureing that bit of history is not forgetten by Kev Il Jong’s spin machine.

  128. Token says:

    And especially organised bloggers. “Get-up” must be cheering. Another way to influence the debate at no cost to themselves.

    SNAP. You spelled out what I was implying.

  129. . says:

    How much is the Cav’s book? Might be worth buying if he doesn’t donate to the ALP anymore.

  130. . says:

    dd

    Twitchy hammers those types. A “catchy” (get it? Cat + twitchy?) type of service may be worthwhile. JC to write, DB and CL to subbie and edit.

  131. egg_ says:

    LEIGH SALES: Is there another reason: revenge?

    Google translator Sociopath-English:
    KEVIN RUDD: Oh, good grief, no. Sort of past all that a long time ago. If I was so sorta wounded by the events of 2010, I would’ve gone offer whimpering into the corner a long time ago. I’m a positive sort of bloke, get on with the business and had we been travelling in much better circumstances, then I’m sure none of these events would’ve happened. That didn’t occur. And I’m determined to take the fight up to Mr Abbott so that the Australian people come this election have a real choice, a real choice between what we put on the table for the economy and for jobs and for growth and Mr Abbott’s approach of slash and burn. Yes.

  132. kae says:

    LOL

    Good one, Egg.

  133. Jack Spratt says:

    I’m thinking what a whole bunch of mischievous bloggers could get up to with such a system.

    Lefty bloggers will ensure that Abbott fact-checking requests will outnumber all others combined. And the lefties in charge of the “conversation” get to choose which requests to respond to.
    ______________________________________________________________

    And not a whole lot of lurve in the room for Barry Cassidy’s latest delusional drivel.
    A Labor election win is no longer preposterous

  134. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Frumpy, old and boring Melissa Doyle has been shunted sideways to make way for fun, young and sexy Samantha Armytage on the Seven Network. Tough. Both knew TV was like that when they signed up. But now the feminazi victims union wants the right to force TV management to keep the frumpy ones. Of course.”

    reports Tom.

    They surely knew what they signed up for – facile, vacuous and transitory. Did Air-headed Mellie initially push some other bimbo aside to get her “job” of sitting, giggling and being the omniscient pin up girl for mummy bloggers? It’s likely.

    I used watch Sunrise whilst visiting Sydney and preparing to wrestle lions each morning but switched off when I wasn’t getting any news. That was in the century before this one.

    They know sexy sells because they spend hours air blowing and face painting and wardrobing before each show and they profit from that, until the next sexy youngish thing prowls in. I read a year or so ago that this dill was on $700,000 odd pa – she ought to thank her lucky stars that sexy and dim made her wealthy rather than have some other ageing TV bimbo complain on her behalf about the “travesty”. They expect it should never end, for them.

    Comrade Maxine McWho complained similarly about the realities of life in the industry she chose too, blaming blokes.

  135. Sinclair Davidson says:

    Guys – show some initiative. There is nothing stopping any of you from submitting facts to be checked.

  136. Armadillo says:

    If any one politician is likely to be disadvantaged by “fact checking”, it’s likely to be Rimmer. He loves to be out there in front of the news cycle. Always wanting to comment on anything and everything. Always wanting to be seen to be in control of every issue and being all things to all people.

    If as we suspect, these “fact checking” services are manipulated by interest groups, Rimmer is most likely to be the one taken in. He is very much a popularity politician. What is of interest to the minority is usually a pretty much non-issue in the broader community (take gay marriage for example).

    Another good example was the “live export trade”. Rudd would have fallen into exactly the same trap. He would have been front and centre showing himself to be “in control” before stopping to think it through.

    Howard had a much superior ability for “sniffing the political wind” out in the mainstream community. I believe Abbott has that ability as well.

  137. Tom says:

    I trust the system will be as effective at deliverying a desired result, and as open and transparent as the selection process for the Q&A audience.

    Precisely.

    we can put in reader requests to check particular facts.

    The purpose of the exercise is to give the Left an advantage — that is, to create pro-left propaganda by attempting to redefine “the facts”. Wait until you see the contortions they will engage in to achieve the objective: if it wasn’t so pathetically transparent, you’d call it “sinister”.

  138. . says:

    Sinclair Davidson #913412, posted on July 5, 2013 at 9:18 am
    Guys – show some initiative. There is nothing stopping any of you from submitting facts to be checked.

    We already do. It just isn’t formalised.

  139. Sinclair Davidson says:

    Don’t watch sunrise but looked at pictures in the paper. Looks like they have replace one cute blonde with another cute blonde. If they were going for ‘sexy’ why not replace kochie with cute blonde.

  140. Lucie says:

    Yes, Mick Gold Coast, but why don’t the men have to be sexy, too??? (‘Kochie’ -hello?)

  141. . says:

    Imagine what a busty young lady would have copped at Summernats. If you think I am being crude then you have no idea.

    http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/video/watch/16978027/

    She did look like bit of a nerd though. Maybe she grew into her attractiveness.

    To be brutally honest like Harvey Weinstein, she better watch her weight, even if us men find her curves attractive.

  142. . says:

    Sinclair Davidson #913418, posted on July 5, 2013 at 9:21 am
    Don’t watch sunrise but looked at pictures in the paper. Looks like they have replace one cute blonde with another cute blonde. If they were going for ‘sexy’ why not replace kochie with cute blonde.

    I concur. Furthermore, I should be a “talented A&R man” for network TV.

  143. geoffff says:

    The garrotting of the truth has been ratcheted another notch in the UK.

    “We are afraid to speak the truth because Islam is afraid of the truth and we are afraid of Islam”

    Includes Pat Condell’s latest video uploaded a few hours ago.

  144. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “If they were going for ‘sexy’ why not replace kochie with cute blonde.”

    That’d be a good idea Sinclair.

    Eons ago Koch was a finance-ish reporter on radio who communicated in simple terms to his audience about complex economic stuff and on personal finances. He was good at that but then he suddenly became an expert on everything and popular and overpaid.

    I’d watch Sunrise – become a fully paid up member of the Sunrise Faceplant Family – if they’d employ Janet Albrechtsen, to just sit there every morning. 🙂

    It’s a bit like reviving the Daily Mirror Page 3 girl thing really.

  145. Tom says:

    Looks like they have replace one cute blonde with another cute blonde. If they were going for ‘sexy’ why not replace kochie with cute blonde.

    The new one sets men’s loins aflame; the old one didn’t. I don’t think the new one alienates women so it’s a win win. Two cute blondes would alienate males and females because it would be obvious the producers were interested only in the crumpet factor and that the male authority figure was expendable.

    Still, I’d like to see the idea road-tested with a couple of naked Swedes. You’re full of good ideas, Sinc. You should be in TV.

  146. Lucie says:

    See. It is a patriarchy.

  147. egg_ says:

    He is very much a popularity politician. What is of interest to the minority is usually a pretty much non-issue in the broader community

    Yup, plus he’s a poll junkie, so rather than sniffing the wind, he changes with the wind, policy on the run, so the fact checkerers, if genuine, would be kept very busy as spin is second nature to a sociopath as their very persona is spin.

  148. Septimus says:

    Sinclair – I like this bit:

    replace koch

    Stopped watching Seven’s morning show many years ago when it became obvious what a dill he is.

  149. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Still, I’d like to see the idea road-tested with a couple of naked Swedes.”

    After Tom’s intellectual reasoning, “win win”, “male authority figure” ‘n all, I’m reminded of another development in the complex science of presenting talking heads.

    The ABC News up here now has a sexy youngish Sri Lankan reading the news standing up, walking towards the camera at the beginning and sometimes getting in the way of the background films. Does the strident walk towards me add authority?

    Mind you, this exciting innovation has been unkind to the aged weather girl. At near 60 – how has she repelled the sexy young things for so long? – she don’t look quite so hot standing there like a beer keg draped in granny’s curtain material.

  150. egg_ says:

    Yes, Mick Gold Coast, but why don’t the men have to be sexy, too??? (‘Kochie’ -hello?)

    A. Cos wymmin ain’t so shallow, even when watching snap-crackle-&-pop brekky TV News schlock?

  151. Fleeced says:

    Don’t watch sunrise but looked at pictures in the paper. Looks like they have replace one cute blonde with another cute blonde. If they were going for ‘sexy’ why not replace kochie with cute blonde.

    Mel was stupid, but the new one is annoying, and I think viewers will be turned now it’s revealed Blonde#1 was boned.

    Back in the 80’s, when Coke was trying out New Coke, every blind test they did showed people liked it considerably better, and then when they changed, it bombed. What when wrong? Well, the real world isn’t a blind taste test – people’s bias actually matters. Furthermore, Coke had spent YEARS building up customer loyalty, and it didn’t occur to them that that loyalty was to the product itself. Off course, to the regular drinkers – those who drank several cans a day – New Coke just didn’t taste “right”. Meanwhile, as it seemed to be an obvious response to Pepsi’s taste-tast commercials, it was basically an implicit admission that they thought Pepsi was better than Original Coke. It’s become a case study is marketing failure.

    It seems Ch7 didn’t just “bone” Mel – they “New Coked” her. Credit to their PR for trying to spin it in a positive way – it may have even temporarily increased ratings – but now the cat’s out of the bag. Ch7 has spent years marketing the (annoying, to me, but it seemed to work on viewers) “Sunrise Family” meme. Well kids, Mommy and Daddy just got a divorce.

    Truth is, the show’s been in decline for a while. Kochie seemed new and fresh when he first took the chair, because he was a loveable dag, but he’s got increasingly pretentious over the years (and also veered more to the left IMO). Mel always came across as a bit of a bimbo, but was otherwise likeable. Weekend Sunrise (where blond #2 has been drafted from) had all the worst traits of what Sunrise has become, and little of the good, so wasn’t the best pick for a replacement (should have went with the natural order of things and chose Nat as new co-host)… New Sunrise just don’t taste right.

  152. Lucie says:

    Egg, even some of us wimmin find the craggy old bloke + youthful Barbie doll juxtaposition jarring. Why not have Grandpa and Grandma, a matching set? Or the kids from High Five?

  153. egg_ says:

    So what is Rudd’s plan? Try to build his default selection bounce by holding a debate stunt at the NPC?

    Tick.
    Plus spinning like crazy in the interim, also hoping for a poll bounce.
    Reeks of desperation.

  154. Tom says:

    See. It is a patriarchy.

    I suggest the shortcut solution is to turn men into women, a project which the feminazis already have well in hand. In a decade or two, on the current trajectory, men will look, sound and behave like women, so it’s logical to assume the male nation would be happy to be ruled by women, who, of course, would, in order to exercise their new power as mistresses of the matriarchy, have to become lesbian bitches, made easier by the fact that they had turned the male race into sexually unattractive passive-aggressive betas.

  155. Armadillo says:

    “Kochie seemed new and fresh when he first took the chair, because he was a loveable dag, but he’s got increasingly pretentious over the years (and also veered more to the left IMO)”

    Holy crap Fleeced – you just described Rimmer.

  156. egg_ says:

    Why not have Grandpa and Grandma, a matching set?

    The US networks seem to have less disparate ages and grey headed wymmin aren’t uncommon.

  157. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Yes, Mick Gold Coast, but why don’t the men have to be sexy, too??? (‘Kochie’ -hello?)”

    Heh, heh – Channel 9 thought Comrade Eddie was so sexy looking they made him CEO, momentarily, until they discovered he was only that.

    I think the last bloke who knew TV innately was the estimable Kerry Packer and he wouldn’t have contemplated anything more important for Eddie than an extra couple of gold stars on his dressing room door and full length mirrors.

    The experts now running the show all have journalism and interpretive dance and pollster “degrees”.

  158. Lucie says:

    Oh no, Tom! Real women want real men. They just don’t want to be, or be represented by, bottle blonde Barbie bimbos. Problem is when it’s presented as a stark choice between Blokesworld or Feminaziworld.
    I agree that men have been emasculated by feminism – and it’s awful. We need the yin and the yang.

    True, egg. People have pointed out that the US is more balanced in that way.

  159. egg_ says:

    kae
    #913407, posted on July 5, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Ta Kae, hope all’s well w u?

  160. egg_ says:

    We need the yin and the yang.

    Yup, but that’s an Eastern philosophy.
    Western progressives want a battle of the sexes.

  161. egg_ says:

    Tick.
    Plus spinning like crazy in the interim, also hoping for a poll bounce.
    Reeks of desperation.

    I’d go so far as to say that he’s under ALP machine orders to (clear the decks of Gillard’s albatrosses and) get a poll bounce and go early, as he seems to be under (some external) pressure and not just that due to Abbott’s formidable presence.

  162. Fleeced says:

    Holy crap Fleeced – you just described Rimmer.

    Rudd was a dag, but never loveable. He always seemed a bit creepy to me, but I guess others didn’t see him that way.

  163. Gab says:

    The bogus 97% consensus on AGW is bogus. But we knew that.

    The paper, Cook et al. (2013) ‘Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature’ searched the Web of Science for the phrases “global warming” and “global climate change” then categorizing these results to their alleged level of endorsement of AGW. These results were then used to allege a 97% consensus on human-caused global warming.

    To get to the truth, I emailed a sample of scientists whose papers were used in the study and asked them if the categorization by Cook et al. (2013) is an accurate representation of their paper. Their responses are eye opening and evidence that the Cook et al. (2013) team falsely classified scientists’ papers as “endorsing AGW”, apparently believing to know more about the papers than their authors.

  164. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Oh no, Tom! Real women want real men. They just don’t want to be, or be represented by, bottle blonde Barbie bimbos. Problem is when it’s presented as a stark choice between Blokesworld or Feminaziworld.
    I agree that men have been emasculated by feminism – and it’s awful. We need the yin and the yang.”

    from Lucie is ever so true, but I’m so pleased that I am not troubled by this because

    “Yup, but that’s an Eastern philosophy.
    Western progressives want a battle of the sexes.”

    from egg_ reminds me just how fortunate I am living, for near twenty years now, much like Carpe Jugulum in my wife’s Asian culture. There is no such battle there and men and women coexist quite happily with the other being around.

  165. Armadillo says:

    Quote from reader on Bolta’s:

    “The first fact check carried out by The Conversation was into foreign minister Bob Carr’s statement that many asylum seekers being smuggled by boat are actually economic refugees. It concluded that “based on the available information”, Carr’s statement was incorrect”

  166. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “The first fact check carried out by The Conversation was into foreign minister Bob Carr’s statement that many asylum seekers being smuggled by boat are actually economic refugees. It concluded that “based on the available information”, Carr’s statement was incorrect”

    That, Armadillo, is fall about laughing funny. These loons could readily convince themselves that Elvis lives.

  167. Megan says:

    No morning TV at our place. Purely anecdotal but no doubt has been the subject of someone’s PhD research in the decades since…in the early days of my teaching career, by 9.30am I could always accurately name the children inn my class who had watched TV before coming to school. More distracted, distracting and distractable, the quality of their work was erratic with poor recall of previous work. The majority of them improved remarkably after morning playtime but the struggler’s improvement was not as obvious.

    Consequently I imposed a blanket ban when I had my own children and apart from the Sicilian Prince and our first born Sports Nut who sneak it in on weekend mornings, we don’t seem to have got out of the habit. I find the irritation fury the evening shows elicit extremely wearing and I just cannot face starting my day by screaming obscenities at the third rate dolts parading their supercilious ignorance and drowning out the peaceful sounds coming from the birds in my garden.

  168. . says:

    Fuck me this is serious

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-04/china-officially-moves-made-data-hiding-data

    They have gone from making it up to hiding it.

  169. Gab says:

    THE world’s most controversial restaurant – where “thongage” was charged, breastfeeding outlawed and complainers were referred to Maccas – has been sold after its eccentric owner retired.

    Some customers visited John Spellman’s upmarket Tramontana on Darwin’s Gardiner St purely to be offended, humiliated and verbally abused.

    Pickles the now previous owners sound like they ran the restaurant in the French style.

  170. Armadillo says:

    Mick, they obviously felt that Carr had moved “too far to the right” on this issue (possibly the only sensible statement he has made in his entire career). Imagine what is going to happen when real conservatives open their mouths.

  171. Tom says:

    Did you live in Darwin, Pickles? That’s a very funny story — love to quote some of it, but some Cat ladies may be offended.

  172. Gab says:

    Wash your motuhg out with soap, Tom. We don’t do the victimhood offended schtick here.

  173. Gab says:

    hehehe mouth..

  174. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Pickles the now previous owners sound like they ran the restaurant in the French style.”

    We had one just like that in Eastwood during the ’80s. He was French, big, bearded and progressively got more pithed as he crafted fabulous food; and his wife was tall, blonde, attractive and engaging – she needed to be, as his foil. After he was done he’d sit with the customers and laugh and argue the toss about all things.

    I recall him storming in one evening from out back and lecturing me on my utterly stupid choice of entree and main, which he was not prepared to deliver. I acceded.

    The joint was packed always.

  175. egg_ says:

    Cassidy:

    Rudd’s tactic has been especially audacious by allowing Abbott to debate the issues that he has run most strongly on in the past: asylum seekers, the carbon tax, and debt and deficit.

    Rimmer modified his initial debate challenge from the economy to a subject of Abbott’s chosing, you omitted that.
    Where’s The Drum’s Fact Checkerer?

  176. Gab says:

    From Wiki: During his studies, Rudd did housecleaning for political commentator Laurie Oakes to earn extra money.[

    Is this true? Sounds like someone sabotaging the Retread’s page.

  177. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “Rudd did housecleaning for political commentator Laurie Oakes”

    ’tis true Gabrielle.

  178. Gab says:

    He musta done a good job then ’cause Laurie loves him.

  179. Gab says:

    Retired Vice Admiral Chris Ritchie was Chief of Navy between 2002 and 2005.

    He was responsible for the planning and conduct of all Navy operations and the tow-backs.

    He told a Senate Select Committee in 2002 that the “primary mission” of deterrence was constrained in operational terms by the overriding obligation to ensure the safety of everyone involved.

    He says turning the boats back can be done again if it’s done right.

    CHIRS RITCHIE: A turn-back operation as it was practised in 2001 is a hazardous, risky task because of the nature of the people that you’re dealing with. They’re people who are intent on getting to Australia and you’re trying to turn them back from Australia.

    But nevertheless it’s a legitimate Navy operation. It’s something that Navy’s have done over centuries. And in that sense, if the government gives a direction to do it, then Navy people will do it and they’ll do it well.

    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3796468.htm

  180. Myrrdin Seren says:

    Sydney City Council finally grows a pair and has council staff and the cops sweep the Occupy Sydney detritus out of Martin Place this morning.

    A weepy Occupod who had rolled out of their wheelchair seemed to be complaining about police brutality, or the 1%, or AbbottAbbottAbbott – or something ?

  181. Tom says:

    TONY EASTLEY: Why did the practice stop when it did?

    CHIRS RITCHIE: No more boats came.

    TONY EASTLEY: None at all?

    CHIRS RITCHIE: None at all. None at all.

    LOL. When the zombies start to believe their own bullshit, re-establishing contact with reality is a violent shock.

  182. Myrrdin Seren says:

    Megan @ 10:30

    I could always accurately name the children inn my class who had watched TV before coming to school.

    I am still shocked by the advice the primary school teachers gave to the initial parents night when Daughter No1 started primary school – maybe 17 years ago now.

    Which was that the littlies should not be sitting up until 11:00 at night watching TV with their parents !!!!

    What the ?!

  183. Armadillo says:

    Time for your daily dose of medicine.

    Bob Ellis:

    “I will apologise for those three roof deaths, of course I will. And I ask John Howard to apologise for the Iraq War, which killed a million people and wouldn’t have happened without him. And to apologise, especially, for wanting Mandela hanged”.

    This looks like a job for the “Cat Facts”?

    Actually, probably best not to waste your valuable time.

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. says:

    Yes, Mick Gold Coast, but why don’t the men have to be sexy, too??? (‘Kochie’ -hello?)

    A. Cos wymmin ain’t so shallow, even when watching snap-crackle-&-pop brekky TV News schlock?

    The truth is that men are sexy in a very different way to women. Tom is right. With men it is a ‘loins on fire’ situation. That is the way they are made: a quick look, tick the essentials, blood drains from brain in a very pleasurable manner. With women, we like to have a little think about things as our bodies rouse. We each have a complex checklist that is individually tailored. Depending on our mood, whichever hormones are in the 7th House etcetera, certain little lights come on in the checklist, lights that may be less important at other times. There are, of course, jackpots. When I met Da Hairy Ape it was Bingo! All lights flashing at once. Fortunately, I hit the bell of the ‘loins on fire’ with him too. To give men their due, once the loins have settled down a bit, and blood has returned to the brain, they do become more able to focus on finer things.

    Other cultures (and ours in the past) understand all of this. Only in ours have we become silly about it, especially on TV. Sensible women do not go on, or watch, morning TV (unless they wish to check what sorts of female factors are currently effective at mildly elevating men’s blood pressure).

    Men are particularly vulnerable to brain drain in the early mornings.
    The Sunrise Hour. QED. The market speaks.

  185. kae says:

    Observation:

    When they dish up your food with tweezers it’s gonna cost a lot.

  186. Lucie says:

    Rudd used Ellis’s “of course” apology. “What’s that, peasants? An apology? Why, of course. Here – catch!”

    The pathetic “bunch” of old vaudevillains (spelling intended).

  187. Lucie says:

    Agree that men’s sexiness to women is more ‘complex’ than vice versa, Lizzie. Give them the appropriately painted picture, with the right proportions du jour, and they’re happy. But Australian TV presenting works on the supposed appeal of the ‘wise old man of experience’ coupled with the young blonde bimbo the men can lust after. What women find sexy just doesn’t come into it. That’s not Feminazism, just the reality when men are in charge. Same with Hollywood, mostly. Men catering to male fantasies on TV and in the movies, homosexuals catering to their fantasies on the catwalk…and women going along with it. There’s always Mummy blogging, I guess. Ugh!

  188. . says:

    Why do you not like Sam Armytage?

    She got the job because she has a track record of not making gaffes. She has done a lot of human interest crap too so she had a lot of chances to fall down.

    Seven actually gave a few others a chance and it is easy to balls up this thing.

    She mightn’t be an engineer or a oncologist, but I’m not prepared to call her a bimbo just because she seems to be natural blonde and men such as myself find her irresistable, even though she has gotten a little chunky.

    Like I said earlier – she looked a bit of a nerd when she first got on seven.

  189. Lucie says:

    I don’t dislike her, dot. She seems less irritating that most, and I wouldn’t call her ‘chunky’. It’s great that a woman with a fuller figure is irresistible to men, too. But let’s face it, as someone said above, women on Australian TV are mostly just there to giggle and simper at the men – unless they’re the other extreme, and tough feminist types. I may be generalising, but it is generally true.

  190. Pickles says:

    Yes Tom, a few years ago. There was a better one than Spelly’s, it had a ship inside of it and the owner was completely mad. You may or not get a feed, but would always get grog. You might wait half an hour for him to shamble over. He may take your order or not. In another hour or so he might come out and tell you what you ordered was off and this is what you can have. Don’t think it’s still going though.

    As always the best place for beers and feed is Dinah Beach Yot Club.

  191. tbh says:

    She mightn’t be an engineer or a oncologist, but I’m not prepared to call her a bimbo just because she seems to be natural blonde and men such as myself find her irresistable, even though she has gotten a little chunky.

    Like I said earlier – she looked a bit of a nerd when she first got on seven.

    I think she looks way hotter now than she did in that clip you posted earlier. She has the best, most piercing set of eyes on Australian television at the minute. There wasn’t anything wrong with Mel either. I saw a photo of her on News Ltd’s site a week or so ago and she looked gorgeous.

    I’m all for the ladies to get some male eye candy on Sunrise, because it would mean that idiot Kochie wouldn’t be there. Thankfully I’m long gone in the morning before any breakfast TV would be on in our household (Mrs TBH has banned any telly before school anyway).

  192. egg_ says:

    Cassidy:

    Rudd’s tactic has been especially audacious by allowing Abbott to debate the issues that he has run most strongly on in the past: asylum seekers, the carbon tax, and debt and deficit.

    Likely KRudd tactics:
    1. asylum seekers: Trip to Indo, get a result, debate Abbott, get poll bounce, call snap election*
    2. carbon tax: debate #2, hoping for another poll bounce
    3. debt and deficit: debate #3, hoping for another poll bounce

    *2. & 3. may not occur, but 1. is likely KRudd’s ‘Plan A’.

  193. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. says:

    There’s always accepting reality too, Lucie. ‘Empowering’ women often disempowers us in other ways. Removal of legal discriminations satisfies me. I can work with the rest and things do change in accordance with real needs and realpolitik. I can’t get too upset about ‘da patriarchy’. Been there, done that in my leftie life with all the Wimminses Studies and da ‘equality in da medja’ and stuff. Too much of the alternative to da patriarchy tends to end in tears. Career women in their late thirties desperate to marry and men running like hell from commitment and kids being brainwashed about gender in schools is only a part of the heartache. Under the removal of da patriarchy, the State is such a good daddy.

    Mummy blogging is fine for some mummies too. Not me though.

  194. Steve of Glasshouse says:

    Lucie..patriacrchy. We did mean of course replacing Kochie with a blonde; a bald one:-)

  195. . says:

    Well if it wasn’t obvious I agree with Lucie and TBH.

  196. RE Bimbo Wars:

    Faustian bargain. Get over it.

    (That goes for everyone.)

  197. Lucie says:

    Yeah, the “patriarchy” comment was sort of tongue-in-cheek, Lizzie. That industry does seem to be a patriarchy, though. Women wouldn’t be “boned” all over the place when they hit middle age, while the men stay on, if it weren’t. It’s a shame the subject is so fraught with tension that you can’t acknowledge that reality, too, without it being assumed that you must therefore favour of ‘matriarchy’ – which fields like education have become, for example. I don’t think either is good. The pendulum swings too far one way or the other.

  198. Rabz says:

    This looks like a job for the “Cat Facts”?

    “Fact Cats” might be preferable in this instance. For example:

    Ol’ Leatherface has a new column up at teh Dumb, quick, call in the Fact Cats!

  199. tbh says:

    Faustian bargain. Get over it.

    Correct. Every bright attractive young thing on Australian TV has gained their opportunity from a previous generation of attractive young things who have been put out to pasture. Nature of the beast in the fickle news media.

    There is an exception over here in the West though: Susannah Carr. She’s been on 7’s nightly news desk for literally as long as I can remember (since 1985 according to Wikipedia). Like most, she started at the ABC and then made the jump.

  200. . says:

    Pillipa

    Men don’t just get over women like Sam Armytage.

  201. Rabz says:

    RE: Bimbo Wars

    I couldn’t give a rodent’s backside.

    This is what happens when you liberate yourself from the mind numbing idiocy that is free to air TV.

    Just hurry up and spectacularly financially collapse, you technological dodos.

  202. Septimus says:

    Refreshing change on ABC midday news today – the very presentable Nicole Chettel has replaced the dour gap-toothed Ros Childs.

  203. Lucie says:

    Well, they might like to get a leg over, dot.

  204. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. says:

    Faustian indeed.
    Yes, mum. 🙂

  205. Lucie says:

    Haha Steve of Glasshouse. Nothing wrong with bald, on the right man.

  206. Armadillo says:

    ““Fact Cats” might be preferable in this instance”

    It’s probably more preferable in ALL instances Rabz. I like it.

  207. egg_ says:

    technological dodos.

    Yup, was thinking ‘steam meeja issues’; brekky TV News is the twitterverse of the infotainment sphere.

  208. Armadillo says:

    “Likely KRudd tactics”

    Agreed egg, that’s why this next poll is so important. It’s all about momentum with Rimmer. Going “later” is his Plan B if the polls are heading backwards.

  209. Rudiau says:

    brekky TV News is the twitterverse of the infotainment sphere..

    Problem is that is that is where the Left connect with the low info voter.

  210. Rudiau says:

    Is the ALP still paying their licensing fees?

  211. Rudiau says:

    oops one ‘is that’ too many.

  212. . says:

    Rabz

    I assure you I try to watch more pay tv than FTA and not much pay TV anyway.

    Sam Armytage can always come back to sky news.

  213. H B Bear says:

    Ol’ Leatherface has a new column up at teh Dumb, quick, call in the Fact Cats!

  214. Lysander Spooner says:

    So

    “A Labor election win is no longer preposterous” – given his “analysis” on preferred PM’s?

    is Cassidy right?

  215. Rudiau says:

    “A Labor election win is no longer preposterous”

    Amuses me that he previously thought it preposterous. Don’t remember him mentioning that fact before.

  216. Armadillo says:

    “call in the Fact Cats!”

    Is “numbers” the “elephant in the room”?

  217. Lysander Spooner says:

    Amuses me that he previously thought it preposterous. Don’t remember him mentioning that fact before.

    Fair call. I’ve always trusted 2pp rather than preferred pm but Barry says that preferred PM has always driven election outcomes…

  218. Armadillo says:

    Or is that an old picture HB and it’s actually “the one who’s name shall not be mentioned”?

  219. . says:

    . #913533, posted on July 5, 2013 at 12:20 pm
    Pillipa

    Men don’t just get over women like Sam Armytage.

    Lucie #913539, posted on July 5, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Well, they might like to get a leg over, dot.

    Boom.

  220. Rudiau says:

    Looks like the Marriage thread is dead, so I’ll post this here.

    SSM from a gay mans perspective.

    Every day American culture is a little more like a Black Mass against nature and manhood and anything decent or beautiful or noble or worth saving. Western Civilization has become a Black Mass for Western Civilization. Everything our better fathers believed in has been spit on and placed like a tainted Host between the yeasty thighs of a giggling whore.

    In some formerly great nations, like England, I could probably be jailed for “hate speech” even writing that.

  221. egg_ says:

    Agreed egg, that’s why this next poll is so important. It’s all about momentum with Rimmer. Going “later” is his Plan B if the polls are heading backwards.

    Yup, his trip to Indo may be his last OS soiree.

  222. Septimus says:

    That’ll learn me. As soon as I commented at 12.21 above, Nicole Chettel was replaced by the stammering Joe O’Brien so the ALPBC could transport us live to Bendigo for some politicking from the second half of Dudd and Sleazy.

    By the bye, do I correctly detect that Sleazy’s dental work has not been up to scratch? The gaps appear to be returning between the tombstones in his upper jaw.

  223. . says:

    Why does a gay man want to care about the subversion of norms? Why isn’t he trying to be like Don Draper then and trying to shack up with a blonde prom Queen and screw his hot secretaries? No?

    Then I don’t really buy a gay dude calling gay marriage a “black mass” as a serious argument.

  224. Rudiau says:

    but Barry says that preferred PM has always driven election outcomes…

    Preferred PM is what the pollsters love bandying around. It means diddly squat IMO.

  225. entropy says:

    Mick, they obviously felt that Carr had moved “too far to the right” on this issue (possibly the only sensible statement he has made in his entire career). Imagine what is going to happen when real conservatives open their mouths.

    Isn’t Gay Alcorn related to margrot?

  226. Armadillo says:

    Article on Bolta:

    “Labor federal election campaigners are increasingly confident of reclaiming their one-time heartland seat of Melbourne as it becomes clear the Liberal Party intends to preference the ALP ahead of the Greens’ only House of Representative MP, Adam Bandt”.

    I thought most commentators had the Greens down as retaining this one. Not sure, but odds may have only just changed to reflect the above?

    Sportsbet: Labor $1.50 – Greens – $2.35 – Coalition $21.00

  227. . says:

    Rudi

    This article is fun and informative

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/just-like-howard-abbott-has-the-numbers-that-really-count/story-e6frg7bo-1226472118146

    Second, it pays to remember some history. Most of us recall the 1996 election as a drubbing of Paul Keating. But who remembers that in the week before the March 1996 election, the man who would become Australia’s second-longest serving PM was trailing Keating as preferred PM? Keating enjoyed a 45 per cent preferred prime minister rating to Howard’s 40 per cent. In fact, Keating’s campaign pitch was one hubristic word – Leadership. Yet, a week before the 1996 election, the Coalition led the two-party-preferred poll by 7 per cent – 53.5 per cent to Labor’s 45.5 per cent – a winning margin that was repeated on polling day.

  228. Gab says:

    Yup, his trip to Indo may be his last OS soiree.

    Have you forgotten the G20? There is no way on earth, come hell or high water, through rain and snow and sleet, when hell freezes over, will Rudd not make it to the G20. There’s some long-awaited “I’m back, baby, I’m back” crowin’ he needs to do on the world stage to the world’s leaders. It’s what all the dumb nerdy kids do.

  229. egg_ says:

    There is no way on earth, come hell or high water, through rain and snow and sleet, when hell freezes over, will Rudd not make it to the G20.

    Hence the Abbott invite enticement?

  230. entropy says:

    gab, if the next news poll has a drop in his numbers, the hollowman will go to the G20 and an election may not happen until November.
    If the numbers rise any higher than the lat one, putting him on level pegging, the hollowman will go by late August

  231. irving J says:

    Snowden seeks help from the cultural marxist homomatriarchy
    On Thursday, Icelandic member of parliament Birgitta Jonsdottir revealed that 30-year-old Snowden has formally requested Icelandic citizenship, and that she and five legislators in the small Nordic country have introduced a proposal to grant his request, despite the long odds that such a measure may face from the country’s current majority party.

  232. Armadillo says:

    “It’s what all the dumb nerdy kids do”.

    If the next polling shows Rimmer going upwards, it is going to be very interesting to see what happens. Will the hard head strategists in the union movement win, or will Rimmers illusions of world domination prevail? It’s only then that we will know who is actually running the show.

  233. Tom says:

    Remember this earlier on?:

    The first fact check carried out by The Conversation was into foreign minister Bob Carr’s statement that many asylum seekers being smuggled by boat are actually economic refugees. It concluded that “based on the available information”, Carr’s statement was incorrect.

    The “fact-checker” doesn’t actually fact-check anything. Instead her conclusion is just a political statement:

    As signatories to the 1951 Refugee Convention, we have an obligation to hear – without prejudice – the testimony of each asylum seeker before presuming that their claim for refugee status is not valid because of their nationality or ethnic origin.

    Verdict

    Based on the available information, the foreign minister’s statement is incorrect.

    But the “fact-checker”, it turns out, gets money from Ausaid and the “reviewer” is an activist in the refugee industry:

    The author of this Election FactCheck, Sara Davies, receives funding from Australian Government (AusAID grant in partnership with University of Queensland) and has received funding from Australia Research Council.

    The reviewer of this Election FactCheck, Melissa Phillips, has received funding from the Australia Research Council. She is also an individual member of the Refugee Council of Australian and Amnesty International.

    RTWT.

    As I suspected, the “fact-check” never set out to find out the truth but simply to recite a zombie political position according to the leftwing worldview. Third-rate try-on.

    The Convo’s fact checker-in-chief Gay Alcorn (ex Fauxfacts) should be embarrassed, but, of course, as an activist journalist, she is not. She is fighting for a cause (to ensure that Abbott and the Coalition are defeated in the coming election). You don’t get information from people fighting for causes — you get propaganda.

    The word disgusting can’t begin to express what I think.

  234. egg_ says:

    Armadillo
    #913593, posted on July 5, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Spot on.

  235. entropy says:

    Gay Alcorn is Margot Kingston’s sister.

  236. Gab says:

    My point, entropy, was that regardless of polling, Rudd will go to the G20, contrary to what Egg said.

  237. Rudiau says:

    Why does a gay man want to care about the subversion of norms?

    So everyone is talking about “expanding” the institution of marriage to benefit 50% of 5% of 5% of the male population. With some insanely generous rounding, that’s what — maybe 200,000 dudes, including male children and senior citizens. (And, though you’d never know it here in the Beaver State, there are more exclusively homosexual men than women. More dykes will get married, though (because even butch girls like weddings) so let’s say all of this is about what might be good for 400,000 people out of 300 million.)

    Seems genuine in putting his case forward.

    Jack Donovan.

    In an essay separate from the manifesto itself, entitled “Agreements Between Men,” Donovan makes an aesthetic argument against same-sex marriage, opting for more private arrangements and expressions of bonds, inspired by male friendships instead of heterosexual romance. When asked about legal bans on same-sex marriage, Donovan clarified that he was “sympathetic to some sort of legal arrangement” but “against same-sex marriage, using the word marriage,” on the grounds that marriage is a cultural institution with, “too much historical baggage

    But he is understandably not short of critics.
    What the F^ck is Wrong with Jack Donovan?

  238. entropy says:

    I understand, Gab. I just reckon if the polls improve for him, the hollowman will go to an election before the G20. Are you assuming if he goes early he will win and thus get to get to the G20?

  239. stackja says:

    Barrie Cassidy back as alp press secretary?

  240. Gab says:

    I believe the election will be in November.

  241. Rabz says:

    I believe the election will be in November.

    The 30th, to be precise.

    And delaying the election that long will rebound big time on the smug little earwax munching gargoyle.

  242. Deadman says:

    The Stammer Song, by Julie Collins and Pete Seeger:

    If I had a s-st-s-stammer,
    I’d s-st-s-stammer in the m-morning,
    I’d s-st-s-stammer in the evening
    All over this la-la-land.
    I’d s-st-s-stammer out d-danger,
    I’d s-st-s-stammer out a w-warning.
    I’d s-st-s-stammer even when answering simple Dixers in question time and not only when flustered by being asked to speak on matters beyond my competence,
    If I really had a s-st-s-stammer.

  243. entropy says:

    Well if he delays to November 30 I actually hope the GG delays swearing in Abbott until December 10.
    That way the Hollowman beats Gillard for the number of days as PM.

  244. Bunyip says:

    Gay Alcorn is Margot Kingston’s sister

    Half-sister

  245. egg_ says:

    The Oz: Slim chance of election win but Rudd provides hope

    The art of distraction is one of Rudd’s greatest strengths and in just a few days he has tried to turn Abbott’s advantage of turning back the boats into a liability, challenged the Coalition’s attack on Labor’s debt and deficits, paraded his international credentials, made same-sex marriage an election issue, acted to distance federal Labor from the stench of NSW Labor corruption allegations and promised to create a “modern” Labor Party.

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