Monday Forum: August 12, 2013

Posted on August 12, 2013 by Sinclair Davidson

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1,142 Responses to Monday Forum: August 12, 2013

Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:46 pm

Yes tofu hater. But we can each do our bit. So at least we know we’ve done what we could.
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Thanks for links, Dot. I will study up…and then you will be beaten like Rudd at this election! LOL
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:47 pm

I really hope Bob Ellis live blogs on election night. What Champagne Comedy it will be.
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:47 pm

SSM/Vegemite sandwich

Was that a conundrum for Magda from a past Q&A?
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Ooh, Tapestry, Septimus! Sounds like a lovely firm you work for.
. says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:50 pm

I find that as likely as monty lecturing me on economics.
Tofu hater says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:52 pm

So at least we know we’ve done what we could.

That’s what the Cat is for.

I thought I was crazy, but here people care enough to speak up as we need to break out of the deliberate socialist programming that has snared the majority of people in slavish obedience without realising they are frog in boiling water.

George Orwell is like a prophet or guide in some sense to de-programme you.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Sorry to hear about your dog monty.

But in reference to your question about starting your own political blog a la Catallaxy Files, how about “The Dogmatic Depository”?

That way we can just refer to its threads as ‘Dog Deposits’?

😉
Tom says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm

JC, I think you need to let Bob Ellis know your suicide hotline will be available on September 7, with dozens of honorary advisers from the Cat available as a backup to counsel him on the best way of topping himself.
Snoopy says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:56 pm

Everyone in Britain, after slavery was abolished, was equal.

Little known fact. Holding a person in slavery became illegal in the UK on 6 April 2010.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:56 pm

SSM/Vegemite sandwich

Pickering wants to join in this debate:

Not a thing has changed with good old Uncle Kev!

His (hal al certified and foreign owned) Vegemite trick was pathetic in terms of a GST increase.

Not only has Abbott said the GST will not be touched unless he takes it to an ensuing election, (Tony is no Julia) the GST is a States’ tax and needs States’ approval. Something highly unlikely with State elections looming.

[Anyway why is Vegemite hal al certified? It’s a vegetable extract. Do Islamists also kill their vegetables in a certain way now?]
JamesK says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:58 pm

Joel Kotkin and Ali Modarres in City Journal: The Childless City
It’s hip, it’s entertaining—but where are the families?

In the American city until the 1950s, urbanist Sam Bass Warner observed, the “basic custom” was “commitment to familialism.”

But more recently, we have embarked on an experiment to rid our cities of children. In the 1960s, sociologist Herbert Gans identified a growing chasm between family-oriented suburbanites and people who favored city life—“the rich, the poor, the non-white as well as the unmarried and childless middle class.” Families abandoned cities for the suburbs, driven away by policies that failed to keep streets safe, allowed decent schools to decline, and made living spaces unaffordable. Even the partial rebirth of American cities since then hasn’t been enough to lure families back. The much-ballyhooed and self-celebrating “creative class”—a demographic group that includes not only single professionals but also well-heeled childless couples, empty nesters, and college students—occupies much of the urban space once filled by families. Increasingly, our great American cities, from New York and Chicago to Los Angeles and Seattle, are evolving into playgrounds for the rich, traps for the poor, and way stations for the ambitious young en route eventually to less congested places. The middle-class family has been pushed to the margins, breaking dramatically with urban history. The development raises at least two important questions: Are cities without children sustainable? And are they desirable?
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 3:58 pm

Lucie,

Ooh, Tapestry, Septimus! Sounds like a lovely firm you work for.

Heh … no ‘work’ involved (at least, none that I get paid for) … that was in my earlier life 🙂
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:00 pm

…Mirabella the-rooter-and-looter-of-the-demented losing Indi…

Tony Jone’s and his gang of 4 must be angry they didn’t think of this when they were pummelling her in tandem a few weeks back.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:00 pm

Geez, Pickering really putting it all out there:
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:03 pm

God – sorry about that post. Something went terribly wrong.
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:03 pm

The development raises at least two important questions: Are cities without children sustainable? And are they desirable?

I loved that article as it really places an interesting challenge. Go to cities like Taipei in Asia and you’ll see a highly urbanised society which values children trying to grapple with this very tough issue in a realist fashion.
pete m says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:04 pm

Tracey

#957122, posted on August 12, 2013 at 3:19 pm

I predict the AEC will extend the deadline (currently 20:00 tonight) for the young Twits to enrol to vote, allowing Labor more time to whip them into a fervour to support Kev.

Tracey – they can’t as the closing date on the rolls is set by the election date itself and law.
Motelier says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:08 pm

Armadillo,

God – sorry about that post. Something went terribly wrong.

We all do it occasionally. Just be careful in future, and take 3 nips of whiskey before Q and A tonight! 😉
. says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:09 pm

How the hell did Peter Beattie maintain mistresses or nubile young girlfriends?

He’s ugly as a pack of arseholes.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:10 pm

pete m,

Unless, of course, GetUp runs another ‘grassroots’ campaign to allow enrolments after the deadline, suddenly ‘finding’ a huge influx of 18yo Labor supporters.

(I note that the news is reporting that over half the 18 year olds in Australia are currently unregistered (where are they getting that statistic from? Anyway, expect the AEC website to crash when they all hammer it at the same time at about 7:58pm tonight, necessitating the extension of the deadline…. just like in 2010….)
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Thanks pete m, I wasn’t aware of that.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:11 pm

and take 3 nips of whiskey

Ahhh – problem identified.
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Tom

No need to worry. Already done. Fat bob even has my cell phone number. I’ll be personally handling this particular client as I have a special interest in the case file.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:23 pm

A haiku for Monty, and all the other Lying Slapper fanbois

Weeping bitter tears
Julia photo in hand
They spank the monkey
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:23 pm

How the hell did Peter Beattie maintain mistresses or nubile young girlfriends?

He’s ugly as a pack of arseholes.

Look at the way lefty women are so quick to give away their integrity and self respect to defend Emperor Rimmer’s cheating last night.

As any worker of they lecherous arts knows, once you get a whisp to take a step down the slippery slope and give in to one principle…
Deadman says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:24 pm

How the hell did Peter Beattie maintain mistresses or nubile young girlfriends?

Power, according to Kissinger, is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
I can’t help noticing that a lot of elderly rich men, though no more handsome than Mr. Beattie nor particularly gifted with wit, have no trouble attracting feminine company.
JamesK says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:25 pm

Paul Krugman, op-ed NYT: Milton Friedman, Unperson

Now, I don’t want to put Friedman on a pedestal. In fact, I’d argue that the experience of the past 15 years, first in Japan and now across the Western world, shows that Keynes was right and Friedman was wrong about the ability of unaided monetary policy to fight depressions. The truth is that we need a more activist government than Friedman was willing to countenance.

The point, however, is that modern conservatism has moved so far to the right that it no longer has room for even small concessions to reality. Friedman tried to save free-market conservatism from itself — but the ideologues who now dominate the G.O.P. are beyond saving.
. says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:28 pm

Money, but power?

State politicians, or the PM of a country with no defence force?

…but for Wales, Richardella?
Deadman says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:28 pm

MK50, a continuation:

Come the election,
howling Rudd will ignore each
lachrymose flunkey.
Infidel Tiger says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm

How the hell did Peter Beattie maintain mistresses or nubile young girlfriends?

Beattie had a mistress?
. says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm

Krugman’s off his head.

Japan’s problems cannot be solved by budget or monetary tinkering, even if they worked positively or much at all.
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:30 pm

Krugman is s such a dickhead. He doesn’t seem to even understand monetary economics.
Deadman says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:30 pm

State politicians, or the PM of a country with no defence force?
Our dear media bestow an illusion of power upon such people; furthermore, they have celebrity, and that passes for importance these days.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:30 pm

Oh.

Just caught on on the first page.

Very sorry about your dog, Monty. They are wonderful companions, so full of life and they become a real part of your life . Anyone can understand you being quite down about that. It’s a genuine pity they have such short lives compared to us.
Splatacrobat says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:32 pm

I listen to a very interesting interview on 612 Brisbane this morning with Steve Austin.

Is the Bible responsible for the success of some nations?
In his new book, The Book That Made Your World, Dr Vishal Mangalwadi describes the role of the Bible in shaping basic values and concepts which profoundly shaped European identity, thought and culture. He was constantly asking himself, why are some nations more successful than others? The evidence was overwhelming: the Bible had sown unique seeds in western culture allowing science, technology, human rights and families to thrive.
Steve Austin speaks to Dr Vishal Mangalwadi in depth about The Book That Made Your World.

Download audio

Essentially the pull factor for mussos is that they want what we have without realising it’s the Judea/Christian foundations and principles that underpin the wests society.
twostix says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:33 pm

Paul Krugman sounds a lot like the elite hi-alanist Steve From Brisbane.
H B Bear says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:34 pm

I can’t help noticing that a lot of elderly rich men, though no more handsome than Mr. Beattie nor particularly gifted with wit, have no trouble attracting feminine company.

Senor Assange is currently mouldering away in a London basement because Lefty women are so gullible – up to a point anyway. See here @0.15.
JamesK says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:38 pm

Caroline Glick: When Failure Carries No Cost

This week, after a three-and-a-half-year delay, US Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was finally placed on trial for massacring 13 and wounding 32 at Ft. Hood, Texas, on November 5, 2009.

Hasan was a self-identified jihadist. His paper and electronic trail provided mountains of evidence that he committed the massacre to advance the cause of Islamic supremacy. Islamic supremacists like Hasan, and his early mentor al-Qaida operations chief Anwar al-Awlaki, view as enemies all people who oppose totalitarian Islam’s quest for global domination.

Before, during and following his assault, Hasan made his jihadist motives obvious to the point of caricature in his statements about the US, the US military and the duties of pious Muslims. But rather than believe Hasan, and so do justice to his victims, the Obama administration, with the active collusion of senior US military commanders went to great lengths to cover up Hasan’s ideological motivations and hence the nature of his crime.

On the day of the attack, Lt.-Gen. Robert Cone, then commander of III Corps at Ft. Hood, said preliminary evidence didn’t suggest that the shooting was terrorism. Cone said this even though it was immediately known that before he began shooting Hasan called out “Allahu akhbar.” He called himself a “Soldier of Allah” on his business cards.

In an interview with CNN three days after the attack, US Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said, “Our diversity, not only in our army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

The intensity of the Obama administration’s participation in this cover-up became clear in May 2012. At that time, Congress had placed a clause inside the Defense Appropriations Act requiring the Pentagon to award Purple Hearts to Ft. Hood’s victims. Rather than accept this eminently reasonable demand, which simply required the administration to acknowledge reality, Obama’s emissaries announced he would veto the appropriations bill and so leave the Pentagon without a budget unless the clause was removed.

Rather than define Hasan’s attack as an enemy attack or a terrorist act, the administration has defined it as a case of “workplace violence.” Following this determination, those wounded in the attack, as well as the families of the murdered, are denied the support conferred on soldiers killed or wounded by enemy fire.

…..

And just as Obama and his followers are willing to pretend away Hasan’s actions to protect “diversity,” and to pretend away the September 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi to protect the myth of the Arab Spring, so they are willing to permit Iran to go nuclear to protect the sanctity of appeasement.

The only thing they are willing to put their foot down about is the prospect of an Israeli strike. And they have put their foot down on this issue for the past decade. It isn’t that the US is deliberately enabling Iran to acquire a nuclear arsenal. It is just that the US elite in government and the media care more about protecting their faith in diversity and appeasement than they do about preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear power.

They have convinced themselves that the prospect of appeasing Iran will evaporate if Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear installations. And so we have seen a parade of senior US defense officials descending on Israel every time it appears that Israel is planning to attack Iran. We have seen a parade of former Israeli military and security chiefs with close ties to the US defense establishment declaring before every available microphone that Israel must not strike Iran and that we can count on Obama to protect us.

But we mustn’t believe their assurances or succumb to their pressure. Obama will not change course. He doesn’t have to. So long as he maintains faith with the god of appeasement, the US media will protect him. And so long as they protect him, he will pay no price for his failures. So he will repeat them.

Israel cannot countenance a nuclear Iran. So Israel needs to attack Iran’s nuclear installations.

No more needs to be said.
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:38 pm

Stix

I’m actually beginning to think the krugster is partridge from Brisbane.

Good catch. They sound the same.
NT Oldie says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:39 pm

Barnett and the WA LINO (Liberal in name only) government has done a spectacular backflip on the cut back to the over generous solar feed-in tariff. This bloke is a pathetic conservative leader.
NT Oldie says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:42 pm

Try the link this time.

Solar panel tariff: ‘We got it wrong’ – Colin Barnett
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:43 pm

Hey Fatboy….monster.

How about showing some appreciation with gratitude to all of us offering our condolences for that dog of yours, you idiot.

Demonstrate you at least were taught the most basic manners as a child. FFS.

Nothing ever surprises me on te downside from you Fatboy.
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:45 pm

Barnett and the WA LINO (Liberal in name only) government has done a spectacular backflip on the cut back to the over generous solar feed-in tariff. This bloke is a pathetic conservative leader.

If the twit had bothered to read the Cat, he would have known this since 2007.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:45 pm

How about showing some appreciation with gratitude to all of us offering our condolences

Yes mOnster, you can exclude me.
H B Bear says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:46 pm

I’m not sure I would describe Barnett as a LINO. What he should have said is he was not prepared to have some Western Australians pay 8 times the price of conventionally generated electricity so that other people can feel good about themselves and Gaia and then toughed it out.

Clearly the amount of political heat doesn’t justify the $50m price tag, which is a rounding error for a State budget. Pretty piss weak but hard to think they didn’t know it was coming.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:47 pm

Uh JC and Armadillo… monty DID express his gratitude…

m0nty
#956922, posted on August 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm

Thanks for all your kind words, Cats.

I am thinking of starting a poliblog, but what to call it. Dogmatic Files?
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:47 pm

Here Fatboy I’ll even write it for you.

Thanks to all the people offering me their sympathies.

Copy&paste it and put it under your own name, you rude douchebag.
kae says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:48 pm

So the news summary is telling us that this is possibly a record hot August day in Brisbane. It reached 29.4 outside Brisbane today.

I am wondering about the 24 or 26 August 2009 (whatever the date it was a Sunday), and the temp here was 42C – possibly hotter. How hot was it in Brisbane on that day? There were hot winds which made it hotter, the same as the hot winds today.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:49 pm

Uh, JC…

Look up one post…. and then click the link….

Hope you’re hungry… that’s going to be a hell of a large piece of humble pie coming to your table…
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:50 pm

Thanks Brian.

I never saw it. He’s an ungrateful wretch at the best of times so I wasn’t expecting it from him

At ease Monst.
Tom says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:51 pm

Speaking of hi-Alanists, ShakeMyHead.com’s deputy chief Abbott-hater* Peter Martin is telling his zombies, in his latest FactChecker exclusive, that they have nothing to fear from Labor’s bank deposit tax because it’s not a tax, using the usual calculated, glib ignorance about how banking commerce works and, of course, with the usual anti-Coalition hatred seeping out of his pores.

*The chief Abbott hater is the dumb Kenny cousin, Mark.
Infidel Tiger says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Barnett and the WA LINO (Liberal in name only) government has done a spectacular backflip on the cut back to the over generous solar feed-in tariff. This bloke is a pathetic conservative leader.

Fucking shameful. We not only subsidize people to buy them, we then pay them when they dump their excess power back in the system which cause all manner of strife for the grid.

The reason we have astronomically high power prices is because of all these retarded solar weirdos and their renewable friends.
m0nty says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:53 pm

But in reference to your question about starting your own political blog a la Catallaxy Files, how about “The Dogmatic Depository”?

That way we can just refer to its threads as ‘Dog Deposits’?

Sounds too much like SfB’s one, which is rather silly.

I’m considering “The Loaded Dogma”.
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:53 pm

Guys, Monty did express his gratitude way up thread. The kindness shown by so many of the Cats made me get out the tissues and have a little cry about my long gone but never forgotten dogs.

You good folks are all a bunch of softies, let me tell you! Ugh…I’m now channelling Kevni!
tomix says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:54 pm

SSM/Vegemite sandwich

That really is an inappropriate pairing.</em

Too right, but Kev raised the issue of a vegemite sandwich tax first.
m0nty says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:54 pm

Brian, if JC apologised every time he was wrong, he’d spend half his posts apologising and it would get rather tiresome.

Mk50: it’s not a genuine haiku if there’s not a reference to a season, IMO.

And thanks to you both for your condolences as well.
James in Melbourne says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:55 pm

I’m actually beginning to think the krugster is partridge from Brisbane.

No way. The basic fatuity is in place, but KRudd in his insane pretentiousness was actually able to simulate intelligence enough to parade half-convincingly around the world gabfest circuit, and hob-nob – however fawningly and ill-fittingly and crassly – with some of the big hitters.

Although SFB is a reasonably talented copy-and-paster, in that he can Google up an opinion on something he knows nothing about in two minutes flat, and post it with a faux-knowledgeable little “I find” or “it seems to me,” he wouldn’t last ten seconds in the kind of forums the KRudd was able to frequent.

He’s just as weird and socially inept a dude, I’ll grant you, but that theory is way out there.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:57 pm

I like that, Deadman!

Loathesome Bill Ludwig
Denies Rimmer union cash
Another loser
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 4:59 pm

Brian, if JC apologised every time he was wrong, he’d spend half his posts apologising and it would get rather tiresome.

Well, if you were a tiny bit honest with yourself you’d have to agree that he ain’t lone ship on the ocean in that regard mont…

As for the poliblog name, if you do go for the one you just posted, no pictures of dogs with dynamite, ok?
Carpe Jugulum says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm

but KRudd in his insane pretentiousness was actually able to simulate intelligence enough to parade half-convincingly around the world gabfest circuit, and hob-nob – however fawningly and ill-fittingly and crassly – with some of the big hitters.

True, but he is socially inept, lacks decorum, lacks confidence outside his circle of sycophants and is a lousy networker. His cringeworthy little salute to GWB (notice me, notice me) and ‘Bush didn’t know what the G20 was’ are signs of an insecure toady.
entropy says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm

Kae, I think it we t over 34 degrees in August 2009
JC says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm

Shut up Fatboy.

I accepted what brian said and took it back.

As I said, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if you just ignored the condolence comments.
Splatacrobat says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:02 pm

LNP: $1.13
ALP: $6

Rudd is going to be boned deeper than a blonde in a John Holmes porn film.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:03 pm

Guys, Monty did express his gratitude way up thread. The kindness shown by so many of the Cats

Yeah, but that’s why I said he didn’t need to thank me Calli. I was channelling my “inner JC” when I posted the following earlier:

m0nty #956835, posted on August 12, 2013 at 11:21 am
My dog died last week. I am a bit down, yes.

That could melt a heart of stone.

FMD – I wake up to read this sympathy shit. I certainly hope Emperor Rimmer isn’t reading this crap. If I were his dog, I’d be fucking scared shitless if Rimmer walked into the back yard carrying a baseball bat.

My Cat died last week (which you think would be much more news worthy on a site like the Cat). But you didn’t see me coming here bitching and moaning about it. Toughen up princess.

BTW, I was just kidding mOnst (if you hadn’t gathered it already) – smiley thingy
Henry2 says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:03 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFakQzrRXw8&feature=player_embedded

This goes to show you how accurate Tarot can be!!
kae says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:03 pm

The news is just on and it was the “hottest day in four months” – of course, we just had winter in July… LOL
Splatacrobat says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Beattie had a mistress?

Dunno but Merri Rose might let you know if you can give her a job.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:07 pm

Rudd about to lose
Bitter westerlies blowing
Ekka ground sawdust
John Comnenus says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:08 pm

Federal Election Betting Update.
The source for all odds is Sportsbet. (Disclaimer I have no financial or other connection to Sportsbet).
The Federal election has taken a decisive shift to a Coalition victory in the first week of the campaign according to Sportsbet’s seat by seat election betting odds.
From the 8 Aug to 12 Aug the Coalition has improved its overall probability of winning by tightening the odds it will form Government in from $1.24 to $1.15 and the ALP has blown out from $4.00-$5.50. Much of this shift, $1.19 to $1.15 occurred in the aftermath of the debate suggesting that the punters thought Tony Abbott decisively won the debate.
The ALP holds Government and has 71 seats and the Coalition 73 seats.
As at today there are 31 Seats in play. I have counted any seat on a 70% probability of a win or less as being in play.
Of those seats 23 are ALP held seats, four are held by the minor parties and four are held by the LNP. A seat below 0.5 indicates that the incumbent party will lose the seat.
ALP Seats and probabilities of winning are:
1. Corangamite (VIC) 0.21
2. Bass (TAS) 0.23
3. Deakin (VIC) 0.25
4. Lindsay (NSW) 0.30
5. La Trobe (VIC) 0.31
6. Greenway (NSW) 0.33
7. Braddon (TAS) 0.34
8. Reid (NSW) 0.38
9. Robertson (NSW) 0.45
10. Banks (NSW) 0.47
11. Moreton (QLD) 0.53
12. Parramatta (NSW) 0.56
13. Page (NSW) 0.57
14. Eden-Monaro (NSW) 0.58
15. Lingiari (NT) 0.63
16. Capricornia (QLD) 0.63
17. Petrie (QLD) 0.64
18. Brand (WA) 0.64
19. Hindmarsh (SA) 0.66
20. Lyons (TAS) 0.66
21. Blair (QLD) 0.68
22. Barton (NSW) 0.69
This shows that the ALP is currently behind in 10 seats it currently holds. So we can add 10 seats to the Coalition and subtract 10 seats from the ALP. That is the Coalition is on 82 and the ALP on 61 seats if these seats change hands.

The minor party, Green and Independent seats in play are:
1. Lyne (NSW) 0.07
2. New England (NSW) 0.07
3. Fisher (QLD) 0.20
4. Melbourne (VIC) 0.41
5. Dobell (NSW) 0.41
Of these, the ALP leads in Melbourne, all the others have the Coalition in the lead. The Coalition moves to 86 seats after these seats are accounted for and the ALP improves one seat to 62 seats. The Coalition seats in play are:
1. Forde (QLD) 0.34
2. Brisbane (QLD) 0.62
3. Solomon (NT) 0.65
4. Hasluck (WA) 0.70

Only Forde is lost, so the Coalition ends up with 85 seats and the ALP 63 seats and Katter and Wilkie hold their seats according to the punters.

This suggests a 2PP of between 2.7% – 3.1% using Antony Green’s swing calculator backwards to work out the swing by the number of seats lost. That would make the 2PP around 53-47 to the LNP, which is roughly a bit better than where the polls are at the moment.

The average shifts in the odds of the seats in play by state are:
1. NSW: 0.24 to the Coalition
2. Vic: 0.41 to the Coalition
3. QLD: 0.14 to the Coalition
4. WA, Tas and NT odds have not moved in either direction.

This is bad news for the ALP as it suggests that the biggest swings are occurring in the largest states with the most states.

QLD

If this trend continues Moreton and Capricornia appear under serious threat. Petrie and Blair seem less likely to swing to the LNP. It will be interesting to watch Forde, which I suspect will swing back to the LNP. The LNP can pick up three to five seats in QLD and potentially save Forde. This would be a disaster for the ALP.

NSW

There is only downside for the ALP in NSW as there are no seats in play that the ALP might win off the Coalition. Parramatta seems to be swinging strongest towards the LNP and Page might also come into play. It is most likely that only Parramatta will be added to the LNP column meaning the Coalition will gain at most nine seats in NSW.

Vic

There are no other VIC seats in play apart from those that have already changed.
Summary
This indicates that a likely scenario is for the LNP to have a five seat net gain in QLD, a three seat net gain in VIC, a two seat gain in Tasmania and a nine seat gain in NSW. That would see the Coalition gain 19 seats which would give them a total of 92 seats which in turn reflects a possible swing to the LNP of 4.3%.

In order for the Coalition to get to over 100 seats they will need to be able to bring the following ALP held seats into play. Below I list the seat, state, margin and current probability of the incumbent winning:
1. Page (NSW) 4.2 0.57
2. Eden-Monaro (NSW) 4.2 0.58
3. Lingiari (NT) 3.7 0.63
4. Capricornia (QLD) 3.7 0.63
5. Petrie (QLD) 2.5 0.64
6. Brand (WA) 3.3 0.64
7. Hindmarsh (SA) 6.1 0.66
8. Lyons (TAS) 12.3 0.66
9. Blair (QLD) 4.2 0.68
10. Barton (NSW) 6.9 0.69

That’s three more seats in NSW, three more in QLD and one each in WA, SA, NT and Tas. That would reflect a 2PP vote of around 56.7% to the LNP or a swing of around 6.8%. I think that is achievable, but certainly not guaranteed.

In the meantime I will keep monitoring the odds for you.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:08 pm

(Also for monty)

“Soft as farewells whispered over the coffin”
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:09 pm

FMD – I wake up to read this sympathy shit. I certainly hope Emperor Rimmer isn’t reading this crap. If I were his dog, I’d be fucking scared shitless if Rimmer walked into the back yard carrying a baseball bat.

Didn’t Rimmer’s poor dog run away when he called for it at a photo op? Dogs are great judges of character!

And I’m sorry about your cat too oh armoured one…I hope it’s hunting lots of ghostly meeces.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:09 pm

Monty, it’s probably too early for you, and I do not know your likes in dogs. We have noted that a friend’s little Bichon-Frise is both a very good companion dog (they have a chronically ill child) and has a very nice ‘personality’. It’s also a brilliant ‘house alarm system’: they are very territorial and nothing, not even a cane toad, moves on their block without this little dog alerting them to it – he’s pleased as they get a lot of snakes and it alerts them to every one. The QPS contacts I have say that burglars etc absolutely hate the breed as they cannot be distracted and do not stop barking.

They do suffer separation anxiety, though, and have to be groomed and washed regularly.

I was not a dog person, but after seeing their dog we got a Bichon recently for progeny the youngest, and can confirm the above. As well as the ‘Bichon blitz’ when the they get all excited and hurtle about like a headless chook for 5 minutes then collapse in a screaming heap, knackered….

The lady across the road has an ex-racing greyhound, again a breed with a very good disposition. She is not elderly but she is quite frail, and says her greyhound is very good in the house, gentle and a good campanion dog.
Carpe Jugulum says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:10 pm

As for the poliblog name,

I have a few ideas.

Hatful of Shyte
Ramblings of the Insane
Straight Jacket Pundit
Padded Cell Pundit
Dribble Poll
Dole Day Punter
Foetal Position Dogma
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:12 pm

Federal Election Betting Update.

Disclaimer: I either own Sportsbet’s arse (or they own mine). Have to wait till September 8 to see which way it pans out.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:14 pm

And I’m sorry about your cat too oh armoured one…

Don’t be a Calli – I just made that shit up. Who would own a Cat (let alone admit to it) FFS?
m0nty says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:16 pm

As for the poliblog name, if you do go for the one you just posted, no pictures of dogs with dynamite, ok?

Why not? There’s a steel statue of the loaded dog in Whyalla, the pictures of which I was thinking of appropriating.
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:19 pm

Chris Kenny tells the Media insiders to STFU with their insider talk and report what the candidates were shooting for:

The oft-repeated lines on key issues might have bored the media pack, but neither Kevin Rudd or Tony Abbott would have minded the chance to deliver them unfiltered to a large audience.
And while we all might hope for more entertainment and spirited debate, the simple truth is both leaders know voters find aggression in politics annoying – so they are more interested in appearing reasonable than attacking each other.

More to the point, barring any mishaps, the debates matter because they give voters a good long look at the contenders.

They are less vital for the incumbent, who already has the authority of office; whereas for the challenger they provide a chance to demonstrate prime ministerial bearing. Abbott will be happy that he passed that test.

On the other hand, Rudd seemed snitchy and pressured – he is not used to underdog status.

Reading between the lines, neither of them is as stupid as Joe Biden.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:20 pm

BTW Armadillo, Philippa left you another blue thing. Here –

http://lifestyle.ie.msn.com/him/best-mens-summer-shorts-3?page=2
Woolfe says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:21 pm

I missed it earlier Monty but I am sorry for your loss. I know when my 10 year old male Beagle (And no, we are not married) goes i will be devastated.
Splatacrobat says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:23 pm

In the meantime I will keep monitoring the odds for you.

Thanks John. Just to summarise:
Rudd is going to get fisted deeper than a Shari Lewis sock puppet.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:24 pm

As for the poliblog name

How’s about:

“Pups 4 Sale”

“Will pontificate for food”

“mUnty’s meanderings”

“Atlas Collapsed”

Etc.
kelly liddle says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Disclaimer: I either own Sportsbet’s arse (or they own mine). Have to wait till September 8 to see which way it pans out.

Armadillo
Bookies have this thing where they are not betting against anyone in usual circumstances. They are just taking a commission on bets between different parties. There is a reason I have shares in some gaming companies.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm

BTW Armadillo, Philippa left you another blue thing.

I could live with those – well, they sure beat the dress.
Pickles says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:28 pm

This little fella needs a new owner
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm

Bookies have this thing where they are not betting against anyone

Fair enough, they don’t have to put up a market if they don’t want to.
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm

Don’t be a Calli – I just made that shit up. Who would own a Cat (let alone admit to it) FFS?

I read your story about Shah…it sounded horribly like some of the stuff that happened to animals up in the PNG Highlands (wont elaborate because it still makes me sick). There is only a select group of Cats that I like to spend any time with.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm

Who would own a Cat (let alone admit to it) FFS?

I believe there are several peoples on this blog who do indeed own cats.

There is a famed lefty who used to sully this blog who was very unhappy when his cat chowed down on some rat poison and then carked it. He broke this news over on Lavatory Rodeo, BTW.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:40 pm

I believe there are several peoples on this blog who do indeed own cats.

They should be “outted” Rabz. Always handy to know who your dealing with. If people had been aware of that little “gem of information” you just disclosed earlier, much pain could have been avoided.
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm

Who would own a Cat (let alone admit to it) FFS?

Why is it again that few bookies become mayors?
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:42 pm

They should be “outted” Rabz.

I outted myself upthread, just look.
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:43 pm

I’ll fess up. I am the owner of a three legged, prone to bouts of psychopathy Burmese.
He’s quite nice when you get to know him (except for the psycho lapses).
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:46 pm

Why is it again that few bookies become mayors?

I have no idea? I suspect there will be even less if this “compulsory purchase of Australian made cars” is implemented. Merceedes drivers wouldn’t be seen dead in a Commodore (unless the mafia aren’t happy with a particular result and don’t feel like paying up).
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:47 pm

I outted myself upthread, just look.

Noted.
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:48 pm

No cats for this little black duck…just two West Highland Whites.

Not recommended…they are the most disobedient breed on the planet. But then I’m a soft touch.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:50 pm

I’ll fess up. I am the owner of a three legged, prone to bouts of psychopathy Burmese

Also noted, but in a “seperate column” marked “take special care – this could get weird”.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:54 pm

No cats for this little black duck…

Finally, someone to put on the “right” side of the ledger.
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 5:55 pm

“Also noted, but in a “seperate column” marked “take special care – this could get weird”.

Oy! I’m not the one revelling in being a cross-dresser!
Rudiau says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:01 pm

Hi Alannah

But who is the much younger woman in MacTiernan’s campaign posters? Is it Heather Locklear?

Ageless? Indeed.
Carpe Jugulum says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:01 pm

Who would own a Cat (let alone admit to it) FFS?

Cats are like little people with fur and fangs, i love them.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:03 pm

Ohh calli – feisty, spirited, utterly adorable.
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:06 pm

Ohh calli – feisty, spirited, utterly adorable.

Heh, heh…they say dergs resemble their owners! 😀
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:06 pm

You are a gentleman of taste and distinction, Carpe.
harrys on the boat says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:07 pm

I pointed out on the old OT about MacTiernans, whiter than white new teeth. She’s a haggard old drunk ffs.
Steve of Glasshouse says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:08 pm

We have cats, dogs , chooks and guns. Bit of yin and yang going on there ay.
Mike of Marion says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:09 pm

Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC
#957248, posted on August 12, 2013 at 5:09 pm

Gawd, dog looks like a cotton wool sewer rat!!!!
Rudiau says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm

Harry
At least The Lazy Aussie calls it for what it is “Alannah’s Election Fraud.”

Can we expect legal action over Alannah Mactiernan’s blatant breach of the Trade Practices Act with her campaign posters?
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm

Tony Abbott’s ‘suppository’ mis-speak a matter of great importance and mirth on ABC24. I don’t recall them putting shit on TLS for ‘hyperbowl’, ‘Taliband’ (twice), ‘high dungeon’ and on and on…
Steve of Glasshouse says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:17 pm

More on that poster..http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/australianlaborparty/pages/286/attachments/original/1375270380/Alannah_Pic.jpg
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:19 pm

http://www.dogwallpapers.net/west-highland-white-terrier/nicce-white-west-highland-white-terrier-wallpaper.html

Nawwww…sigh.
. says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm

I note the unions latest ad preying of the fears of old grannies (privatising healthcare) is rampantly anti American.

They’re a hateful mob of thugs, aren’t they?
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm

Tracey
#957323, posted on August 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm

ALP24 Teh Dumb: Financially never been better – never had better disposable income… just a LNP beatup…
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:30 pm

Ross Cameron being spoken over by another panelist… de rigeur with the Left, not just Q&A… I’ll say my piece and speak over you aswell if I disagree with you… kindergarten.
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:33 pm

Exactly, Lucie…it looks all innocent and cute, but within is the blackest of doggy hearts…you will be safe only if you have a jar of schmackos.

That photo reminds me of the 2007 billboards of our current psychopathic Dear Leader…looked harmless didn’t he?
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:34 pm

… by Marius Benson … and ABC News Editor FFS.
Probably indicative if they’re losing the argument, but Jane Caro’s just a (yartz) bucketmouth who speaks over the top of any Rightie.
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:36 pm

There are no words to express my special level of contempt for that Caro thing.
Will says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm

KEVIN Rudd’s attacks on the Newman Government appear to have backfired, with Campbell Newman’s administration surging in popularity.

A new Galaxy poll, conducted exclusively for The Courier-Mail, has revealed a jump in primary support for the LNP while the Premier’s personal appeal remains unchanged.
Rudiau says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm

Lucie
Yes. Alannah is lovely.
tomix says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:39 pm

Can’t really say why , but that “after” pic of Alannah Mac Tiernan reminded me of Gladstone Small.

Back in the early 1980s, Ian Botham went into his favourite restaurant in the West Indies and ordered the turtle soup.
The Head Chef came out of the kitchen to apologise personally as they couldn’t make him any turtle soup.
“WHY NOT????” aske Botham, “I come here everytime we’re on tour and I love your turtle soup so much that I’ve been telling people all over the world about it”
The chef replied: “The problem is, Mr Botham, that we cannot get them to put their heads out of their shells so we cannot cut off their heads and boil them. As soon as they know we’re coming they hide away and there’s no getting them out.”
“Ah, I see your problem” replied Botham, “leave it to me” and he goes out into the kitchen. picks up a turtle, sticks his finger swiftly up its bum. the turtle’s head shoots out, eyes bulging, Botham chops his head off then proceeds to the next one.
When he’s done 5 or 6 of them he passes them over and says “now you can make my turtle soup”
The staff are amazed and ask where he learned to do such a neat trick.
“Oh, it’s easy” says Botham.

“It’s the only way we can get an MCC tie on Gladstone Small.”
Snoopy says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:44 pm

Rudiau
#957352, posted on August 12, 2013 at 6:37 pm

Don’t do crack kiddies.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:46 pm

No way! Rudd bears as much resemblance to the noble Westie as that MacTiernan woman does to Delta Goodrem. Hey, maybe she should’ve tried one of her pics!
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:53 pm

Yes. Alannah is lovely.

Ugly as a hatful.
Cold-Hands says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:54 pm

I see the Currency Lad is out and about at Blair’s…

While the PM was gathering his notes ahead of last night’s debate debacle, Tony Abbott prepared by competing in a ~~half~~[third]-marathon:
He ran the 14-kilometre course in 81 minutes. Then he made a policy announcement on Bondi Beach, pledging $8 million to Australia’s surf life saving clubs. Then he announced a $500,000 grant for North Bondi Surf Club. Then he travelled to Canberra. Then he prepared for an election debate. Then he debated the Prime Minister live on national television, without notes (unlike the Prime Minister).
Then he won. Speaking of running, someone in Rudd’s office is probably setting records:
Rudd blamed his staff for failing to advise him of the rules …

(Via CL)
Rudiau says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:55 pm

🙂
Rudiau says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:56 pm

Click on the smiley
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:57 pm

The angsty grief-wailers at LP are in need of a hig. So I have then one:

paul Burns:

I’m far too war-weary or something to believe this election will be decided on debates about policy.

In a way I think this is precisely what has decided it, the outcomes of failed policies which have not been repaired (ie: the continued slaughter of hundreds of illegal immigrants at sea and the loss of control of the borders*), and the outcomes of successful policies badly done and not stopped at appropriate times (ie: GFC stimulus done with a 30-50% waste rate and not stopped since).

Any government must be seen to be competent. The ALP governmanet of the last six years has been anything but, and so has no record to run on, hence the ‘new way’ nonsense, which is being correctly interpreted as ‘please forget the last six years and pretend it never occurred.’

People are just not that stupid, especially when Rudd then reminds them with the shambolic ‘oops out by $33Bn since 11 weeks ago’ and ‘screwing people over on salary sacrifice for cars’.

There’s no record to run on except tax and spend, incompetence and policy failure.

* The current wastage rate of illegal immigrants is reputed by leaks from Immigration to be 4.48% as a known rate. As 50,000 have now arrived, that means this appalling fiasco of a policy has killed 2,240 people. AWM says we lost 500 dead in the Vietnam war.

There is absolutely no conceivable excuse for the continuance of a policy failure which has killed nearly 5 times more people than we lost during the Vietnam War.

For that alone, Rudd should be pilloried.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:57 pm

hig? hug! Or maybe a heg?
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 6:58 pm

Click on the smiley

Rimmers love child?
blogstrop says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:00 pm

Wade-a-minud!
Is Q&A altering their un-balance?
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:04 pm

Listening to 2GB news – the following was a “grab” of Rimmer.

“Tony Abbott has so many 3 word slogans that you need to keep notes just to keep track of them all”.

He really is losing it. He will the butt of more jokes than mOnty before too long.
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:06 pm

Rudd blamed his staff for failing to advise him of the rules …

Rimmer – the anti-matter Beattie: Beattie apologises for all and sundry, Rimmer apologises for nothing, it’s always someone elses fault – SEF (per Catch 22).

Good ol’ SEF-Kev…
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Maybe that’s why Beattie has been drafted, Egg…Rudd can stuff up and Beattie can apologise…you know it makes sense!
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Yup, calli, per my suggestion of a damage control mop-up agent for KRudd’s daily spills and tantrums…
blogstrop says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Even the ABC TV News crew (even more bolshie than the radio mob) feel they have to deal with the crib notes affair.

But first they had to have a go at “conservative” NSW government’s brutal cuts! Pru Goward was in the gunsights, and it was ABC SOB.

Then:
“Last night’s debate gave both sides something to latch onto.” Nice.
Rudd pleads no advice re notes.
Moving right along, the ABC goes to gay marriage.
Then highlighted Tony’s “suppository of all wisdom” mis-speak. At least they didn’t call it a gaffe.
I guess a suppository of all wisdom is something you’d have to ask Emily’s Listers about.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:18 pm

Gawd, dog looks like a cotton wool sewer rat!!!!

Well, progeny the youngest does not refer to him as a ‘fluffball’ for nothing. But he does not shed, is housetrained and progeny the youngest loves the mad little bugger. Said progeny the youngest is also crook with the latest bug picked up at school, and is firmly abed per doc’s instructions. Said fluffball has not moved more than two feet from progeny the youngest since the abed stage started (except for greased-lightning runs into the yard to take care of business and zoom back in to curl back up next to PTY). Fluffball is keeping PTY company and apparently enjoys doing so. This has cut the usual whinging of PTY by 95%, significantly raising the fluffball’s perceived value in the eyes of PTY’s parental units.

Were I on a property I’d probably prefer a Huntaway from a guy down in Palerang Shire. His Huntaways are a white-brown with some black, and a little lighter than the normal NZ Huntaway, with significantly longer, silky fur. A couple of friends on sheep properties down there have them and they are astounding animals: very friendly, kid-safe, endless energy and utterly lethal on foxes, which they can out-everything, so they bail the foxes up in a bit of cover and circle it to keep it there until you shoot it. They also just snack on the nearest rabbit when peckish by the simple expedient of running it down, which I have never seen take more than a few seconds.

But they are definitely not a breed for any suburb.
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:19 pm

New action figure: Suppository Kev – talks under wet cement!
WARNING: May be prone to talking sh!te.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:20 pm

Poor Tony Abbott. It’s easy to get your ‘sup’s and ‘rep’s mixed up. Perhaps he was trying to say Rudd is the enema of the people.
Token says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:22 pm

“Tony Abbott has so many 3 word slogans…

FFS, he’s so desperate he has to steal lines from TLS.

I could never believe anyone would slang off at someone for repeatedly saying 3 word slogans with…

…a _3 word slogan_
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:23 pm

Cats?

Hate the feral bastards. It makes my week to shoot one.
blogstrop says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:24 pm

The current fuss over Israel’s announcement of more building in the West Bank needs a bit more nuance.
Presented by the Palis as a blow to the peace talks, and by the ABC as “something to placate right wingers” after the announcement of scumbag Pali prisoner releases, Mark Regev had another perspective.
The new builds are within areas that are not going to be given away to the Palis under any circumstances. They are not contentious.
The Two State Solution is way more contentious than this. Jordan is Paliland. Enjoy. The West Bank is really part of Israel, from the outset of the establishment of Israel, and then again after the 1967 war. It was won back – not taken. Retaken.
blogstrop says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:25 pm

An Enema Of the People. Has the ring of truth.
tomix says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:30 pm

But did Abbott intend to say suppository? That’s the MSM’s problem to work out.

Will the required apology be to all teachers of English or to all suppository users?
kae says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:32 pm

Hottest August day in Brisbane 24 August 2009, 35.4C. Wiki.

Seven just said that today was the hottest August day in X years (didn’t hear how many). The temperature soared to 28C.

At least the other channel I watched said that it was the hottest August day this early in August.

(And just thinking about it, I think it may have been 34 out here…)
Carpe Jugulum says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:32 pm

Fluffball is keeping PTY company and apparently enjoys doing so. This has cut the usual whinging of PTY by 95%, significantly raising the fluffball’s perceived value in the eyes of PTY’s parental units.

aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 🙂
Ellen of Tasmania says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:36 pm

I’ll add my condolences with all the others, Monty. It hurts and I’m sorry for you.

I’ll also out myself as an absolute cat lover. Adore the creatures in all their variety. It’s even been my joy to meet a lion (9 months old). I’ve actually kissed a lion. Heaven on earth.

I understand that puts me totally outside the pale in Catallaxy terms – but that’s nothing new.

Mk50 – I’ve got a German Shepherd comforting me on the end of the bed. The cat is fine about it, and nothing beats a GS for love and comfort.
Tom says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:37 pm

ABC just announced Albanese and Turnbull will debate the NBN on Lateline at 10.3o. Turned over to watch the Greenfilth 7.30 Report, but they’ve chickened out on politics tonight — they’re doing a medical story first, then the Sales hag gets her five minutes of fame interviewing Matt Damon, complete with a thrilling f-word.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:38 pm

Incompetent Rudd
Enema of the people
Apropos! It fits!

Bob Brown murmured
‘It fits?’ (Looks at Rudd’s buttocks)
‘How well I know that!‘
cynical1 says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:51 pm

Turnip666
#956801, posted on August 12, 2013 at 10:52 am

Climategate 3.0 PW has been released…..see Watts

????

This happened months ago to a select few.

Nothing at Watts, Nova etc regarding news.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 7:52 pm

So Rudd is blaming his staff for not telling him the rules (no Notes) at the debate.

(At the risk of having the local Leftist community standing en masse, pointing their fingers and screaming ‘WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST”) Maybe Kokoda Kev should sack that new Asian bloke running his campaign strategy…. Sum Wun.

Or was it his offsider, Sum Dum Cnut?
Tom says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:07 pm

Bunyip points out that obsessed Greenfilth pervert David Marr, at his new media gig in howler monkey nowheresville, is still trying to get his hands inside Tony Abbott’s trousers:

The win or lose question between now and polling day may be this: which of these two can you still bear to listen to when you know they’re both talking blather? My answer is Tony Abbott.

As usual, the perfessor is beautifully metered.
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:08 pm

Righto … whoever’s doing it … stop trying to upload Rudd’s notes … you’re crashing the server.
val majkus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:08 pm

if Rudd was not aware of the debate rules he should have been and there’s no excuse
it shows an astonishing lack of attention to detail or else a deliberate flouting of the rules
and it shows he is not PM material
entropy says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:13 pm

“Tony Abbott has so many 3 word slogans that you need to keep notes just to keep track of them all”.

Tony better say he feels sorry for the ruddster if he a) thinks they are slogans; and b) that he finds them too complicated to remember without writing them down.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:15 pm

I’ll also out myself as an absolute cat lover

Duly noted.

I’ve got a German Shepherd comforting me on the end of the bed. The cat is fine about it

Hate to break this too you, but German Shephards are not 6 inches tall and resemble an over sized rat. Nor would you allow them on to your bed. Nor would he let that stupid bastard of a cat sit there smuggly grining back at him. Nope, that’s no German Shephard Ellen. Put your glasses on.
Gab says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm

test
Cold-Hands says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm

At Michael Smith’s, Green troll Sarah Bath 1975 claims to be standing at this election. Funnily, her name doesn’t appear on the list of Greens candidates. MSN compares Bath with the Greens’ candidate for Calwell. Is this Sarah Bath 1975?
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm

Seven just said that today was the hottest August day in X years (didn’t hear how many).

11 years … yawn.
. says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:19 pm

“Tony Abbott has so many 3 word slogans that you need to keep notes just to keep track of them all”.

We’ll stop the boats
No more carbon tax
If you want real change, change the Government
Who do you trust?

Word counts

4.5
4
9
4

Rudd is a blithering moron. He really is painting himself into the corner as the fuckwit who keeps going.
kae says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:22 pm

WTF?

Is Seven so badly informed that they think that we are currently in AD 2020?

Don’t answer that question.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:25 pm

Green troll Sarah Bath 1975

Smithy sure is getting selfish of late. Why the hell didn’t he send Sarah over to the Cats to have a look around? She would have made a great scratching post.
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:26 pm

Is everyone else experiencing slow loading or is it just me in Sydney’s back blocks?
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:27 pm

…or else a deliberate flouting of the rules

Does a bear sh1t in the woods?

KRudd justified his position in saying that he ‘always prepares notes’.
Just like he said he rang Tess to apologise for attending Scores when he said he did nothing.
An A-grade bullsh1tter come nutter.
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:29 pm

Ok … listen, whoever you are … that really was a fat wad … no, not Therese … the notes! … Stop trying to upload them … Jaques won’t be happy.
blogstrop says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:30 pm

Agree Ellen, the GS is a superior dog. I have a very fond regard for various breeds including the sheepdogs like Border Collies and Kelpies. There are too many others to mention, love them all, but having had a GS for a time, can’t say anything but wow! Sadly departed but never to be forgotten.
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:36 pm

Sarah Bath 1975

The last time that the swampie had a bath?
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:40 pm

Probably just some Rudd cheat sheets passing through the ether.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:42 pm

Oh, Septimus! They are Rudd notes! LOL
val majkus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:42 pm

Is everyone else experiencing slow loading or is it just me in Sydney’s back blocks

it’s happening in the coastal regions of Qld too
Gab says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:44 pm

Yeah it’s also happening here on Alpha Centauri, Lucie.
Rudiau says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm

A model Lefty.

Jason Snowdon [email protected] 22 Nov
@SarahBath1975. 2 questions for you. Have you ever been employed and do you live in Tassy? #auspol

Sarah Bath [email protected] 28 Nov
@jsnsnwdn #auspol No I live in Fitzroy and No I have never been employed. Its my right not to work so that some greedypig can profit.

Kareem A-H [email protected]_ah 11 Aug
@SarahBath1975 @jsnsnwdn You do also realise that someone else who works for that “greedy pig” pays for your dole cheque?? Oh, the hypocrisy
calli says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm

He’s the Gigantor of cheats then! I thought my brand new iPad had gone buggerup! What was it…War and b… Peace?
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm

Why can’t you squeeze a bottle to get the last drops of wine out of it?
val majkus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:46 pm

Michael Smith has photos of yesterday’s boat arrivals on his blog
that makes 2,404 arrivals since the PNG solution to Christmas Island
and a couple of Somalis across the Straight
Driftforge says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:48 pm

Why can’t you squeeze a bottle to get the last drops of wine out of it?

If it is that important, get a cask?
jupes says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:48 pm

Harris on fire. Three wickets already this session.
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:49 pm

it’s also happening here on Alpha Centauri

Same here on Pollux and Castor. Where’s the NBN when you need it?
Honesty says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Rudd looked crook to me along with those ticks and his heart operation, is it fair (I think it’s mandatory) to get a medical check?
Tracey says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:51 pm

Maybe the Somali arrivals via Torres Strait will wake up those deluded few who want to vote for Kev because “I’m from Queensland” to the fact that he no more gives a shit about Qld than he does the rest of Australia.
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:54 pm

If it is that important, get a cask?

If it is that important? Of course it’s important … it’s a very nice wine … and it’s very tiring holding the bottle up while the last tastes drip out …

What’s a cask?
Leigh Lowe says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:55 pm

The cheating of itself doesn’t matter really.
Abbott presented more naturally and sincerely, albeit against C-Grade competition.
Today Abbott looked confident, relaxed and even quite jovial.
Kokoda Kev, on the other hand, looked harried, irritable, defensive and downright shifty.
The licking of the lips, the fearful darting eyes, the tremor in the voice.
It reminded me of those death-row documentaries where the condemned man has his last meal of fried chicken and chocolate ice cream, knowing what is coming and that he is powerless to stop it.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:56 pm

Of course it’s important … it’s a very nice wine

If it’s that nice, eat the bottle.
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:57 pm

If it’s that nice, eat the bottle.

That’s a thought … I’ll get back to you.
Leigh Lowe says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:58 pm

Oops.
Meant for the cheaters thread.
Gab says:

August 12, 2013 at 8:58 pm

What’s the wine, Sept?
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Gab … it’s a Penfolds Bin 128 Shiraz 2008 Coonawarra.
Driftforge says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:01 pm

What’s a cask?

One of those foil bags wine normally comes in.
Deadman says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Rudd’s an even worse
liar than Gillard; he’s an
unprincipled cheat

and, on election
night, we’ll find he’s worse at
accepting defeat.

Anticipating
his concession speech (with notes,
of course) will be sweet

because, I warrant,
it will take just slight needling
to prick his conceit.
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:02 pm

Rudd looked crook to me along with those ticks and his heart operation

Yup, not the first to say his health may suffer under the pressure.
Despite the ‘cool under pressure’ BS associated with ’em, they’re stuffed when their back’s inevitably up against the wall in my experience.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:02 pm

That’s a thought … I’ll get back to you.

Maybe. Maybe not.
Armadillo says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:07 pm

Speaking of wine, it’s always interesting to check in on Bob Ellis of an evening.

Dear Richo,

It is important you stop pretending Labor is behind in ‘all the polls’. You should not lie about this. It does not become a Hawke Minister, and a sometime hero of the Greens, to lie as Cult Murdoch tells you to.

You must start saying Morgan, which is lately very accurate, has Labor 50-50, and picking up nine seats in Queensland.

You must say this.

Or I will be ashamed of you.

Your friend and chronicler,

Bob Ellis
Septimus says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:08 pm

Maybe. Maybe not.

You’re Dutch? I sense some humour there.
Lucie says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:12 pm

Oh what, Septimus – so now the Dutch are the suppository of all humour, are they?? LOL
egg_ says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:13 pm

Still draining same bottle.

Had some Tyrrell’s 2010 Heathcote Shiraz on the weekend.
Try Sabor Cafe when you’re next in the valley (we stopped off en route).
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:16 pm

Nice, Deadman.

But to bed, early start for this little black duck.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:21 pm

The test is slipping away from the Aussies. If England get a 300+ lead we’re done for.
m0nty says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Re Mk50’s suggestion of a Bichon-Frise: I’m a country lad, we’re not generally into those frizzy girly-looking dogs. I like dogs bred to go down rabbit holes, short haired terrier types.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:24 pm

Harris needs to keep cleaning up. 285 is a possibility.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:25 pm

Smith, you dildo!
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:32 pm

England all out, 299 to win. Not hopeful.
pete m says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:33 pm

Rabz – test was lost when the morons had 5 wickets in hand and only 20 behind on 1st innings but couldn’t manage a half decent lead. Now Swann will clean us up and all over by tea.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:35 pm

True, Pete. That we’re still nominally in the game is inexplicable.
m0nty says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:36 pm

The test was lost when we appointed James Sutherland as CEO of Cricket Australia. I am not even joking.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:36 pm

Oh, FFS, who am I kidding.
Huckleberry Chunkwot Minion & Executioner VRWC. BDS. says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:37 pm

This cocksucker on Media Watch needs to be Media Watched himself.
What a pompous dissembling cnut.
He makes a half arsed attempt to correct Rimmer’s lie about Murdoch owning 70% of the print media by saying that News says that they only control 63%.
Tell the whole truth cocksucker.
Rabz says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:39 pm

He makes a half arsed attempt to correct Rimmer’s lie about Murdoch owning 70% of the print media by saying that News says that they only control 63%.

Looks like he’ll be hearing from me again.
perturbed says:

August 12, 2013 at 9:53 pm

I’d need to have my eyes sandblasted if I were to ever have the misfortune of espying Rudd in budgie smugglers.

The Mankini, Lurker. For the complete eye-destroying effect, you need to see him go the full Borat.
perturbed says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:11 pm

I just can’t see how the libertarian view on this can be wrong. Get rid of any state rubber stamps of marriage of any kind. Leave it up to private law.

No. There must be some state involvement, if only to provide criminal sanctions to those who try to marry little girls off to scummy old men, etc.
perturbed says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:15 pm

with dozens of honorary advisers from the Cat available as a backup to counsel him on the best way of topping himself.

If he really is as much of a boozer as some claim he is, and if you really want him dead that badly, simply letting him go on doing it is the surest and most horrifying way of ending his miserable, bitter existence. You should see what happens to some alcos when their liver packs up and they have a Mallory-Weiss tear on an oesophageal varix. Not pretty.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:21 pm

So SarahBath1975 lives in Fitzroy and is running as a Greens candidate in the 2013 election.

Isnt’ Fitzroy in the federal seat of Melbourne, currently held by Adam Bandt? Why yes, yes it is.

So, has Adam Bandt just outed himself using a ‘sock-puppet’ account on Michael Smith’s site?

Or is she just another hypocritical Green who, whilst whining about a ny conservative candidate that lives outside the electorate for which they are standing, doesn’t actually live in the electore she is seeking to represent?

Or was she just talking out of her suppository?

(Rhetorical)
perturbed says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:24 pm

Tracey – they can’t as the closing date on the rolls is set by the election date itself and law.

And they already changed it in the last election, on appeal from the Twit herders, no less.

The Twits have known there was a poll coming since early this year, and the ballot application form clearly states that you can pre-enrol before your 18th birthday (though you cannot vote until after it).

It’s all their fault now. Fuck them if they didn’t make the cut. Fuck them hard. With Kevvie’s amputated wang.
Tom says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:30 pm

It’s McSporran’s nephew!
Tom says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:31 pm

Woops! Wrong fred.
Cold-Hands says:

August 12, 2013 at 10:49 pm

So SarahBath1975 lives in Fitzroy and is running as a Greens candidate in the 2013 election.

Brian, it is conjectured that Sarah Bath=Jo Neville who’s running for Calwell (NW Melbourne). Photographic comparison at Michael Smith’s suggest they have identical teeth. I’m not convinced.
Brian of Moorabbin says:

August 12, 2013 at 11:09 pm

Cold-hands, I saw the conjecture.

I’m just commenting on the fact that she claimed she is running, that her facebook page (linked at Smith’s site) indicates that she lives in Fitzroy (which she also admits in the tweets as reported above), and that if she is running as she claims then she is either: (a) running as Adam Bandt; (b) running in a different seat than where she lives (despite all the howling from the Greens et al about how conservative candidates are ‘lying to their electorates’ if they don’t live where they stand’, or; (c) simply trying to pass off a load of bullshit as fact..

(she’s a Green… that last one’s probably a given anyway)…
Snoopy says:

August 12, 2013 at 11:30 pm

A complete and utter fraud.

In a perfect world, Kevin Rudd would not be campaigning for election but visiting an analyst. Therapy is the treatment of our age for those the ancient Greeks saw as tragic heroes, personalities at once sparkling and deeply dysfunctional. But an election campaign it is, with the Australian people as the judge and jury, and it is important to keep in mind a key issue at stake: just who is Kevin Rudd?

RTWT
perturbed says:

August 13, 2013 at 2:03 am

Never mind, Tom – it fitted well enough within the narrative.

Snoopy – good article and very telling. The degree to which they painted Rudd as Tintin was nauseating, and some sections of the media have continued to slobber on the tip of his metaphorical wang ever since. It was cute for an editorial cartoon or two, but after that it was just overplayed.

Am looking forward to the detonations of quite a few media heads when their hero is defeated. Their rage against Abbott666 will doubtless send some of them to an early grave, and I won’t mind a bit.
Grigory Potemkin says:

August 13, 2013 at 2:42 am

Potemkin’s Village

Also available in Rock Salt and White Balsamic Vinegar… here
Tom says:

August 13, 2013 at 5:39 am

No option now for Boof but to take out the garbage: Shane Watson, Steve Smith and Dave Warner for starters. And send Khawaja back to the Shield to find form. Start auditioning Shield’s best bowling and batting averages and totally separate the Test squad from one-day and hit-and-giggle squads. The cross-infection is now a major part of Australian cricket’s structural problem. So stop pretending that people who want to be bash-artist millionaires can also represent Australia at the highest level: from now on, you have to choose to sacrifice money, be a Test specialist and represent your country at the highest level; or fuck off to the hit and giggle.
. says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:10 am

I’d pay $200 to watch a test, I’d pay $5 to watch T20.

Something to think about, Cricket Boards.
Tom says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:14 am

Pru Goward (an ABC luvvie who defected to the conservative side of politics) is the target of this morning’s ShakeMyHead.com hate du jour because she apparently doesn’t flagellate the state public sector union enough. The dogwhistle seems to be that Goward is a child murderer because she doesn’t employ enough social workers. No doubt, Tinta and Bloggy can bring me up to speed on this one since ShakeMyHead.com considers it the story of the day.
. says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:19 am

No. There must be some state involvement, if only to provide criminal sanctions to those who try to marry little girls off to scummy old men, etc.

That IS the libertarian view.

Minimise coercion. Minors cannot consent and thus would be coerced. Hence it would be illegal and ought to be punished with incarceration as it is a form of child abuse.
. says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:23 am

Fuck html
1735099 says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:23 am

Abbott’s been reading Catallaxy…..
. says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:26 am

No five year olds were assaulted in that gaffe.
Blogstrop says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:42 am

Yes, Tom. The attacks on Goward are following the usual leftist template of casting all attempts by a conservative government to right the ship after a spell of spendathon Labor as being callous withdrawal of vital services. This is normally by getting firemen and nurses to protest outside parliament house.

But this time they’ve gone further. Never mind that the left themselves have undermined families and cast a whole herd of mentally unfit people onto the streets. It’s now their line of argument that some troubled person has committed suicide because this brutally unfeeling government reduced the funds available for Bandaid Patrol.
Popular Front says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:45 am

Is this Sarah Bath 1975?

Creepy photo. Have a close look at it, one eye is looking at you but the other one isn’t.
Popular Front says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:51 am

Yes. Alannah is lovely.

She looks like Ellen DeGenerate’s ugly older sister.
Tom says:

August 13, 2013 at 6:59 am

Bunyip points out that Pravda has used Abbott’s “suppository” gaffe to draw attention to the Twitter sewer’s worst anti-Abbott filth, while the Lying Slapper’s litany of illiteracies doesn’t warrant a mention. It’s different when they do it.

Speaking of filth, I notice the old commo traitor has outed himself as a Greenfilth voter, as if he hadn’t already identified himself as economic wrecker, an opponent of the Australian civilisation and a moocher.
Septimus says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:07 am

Remember when Ronald Reagan was President … we had Bob Hope and Johnny Cash still with us.

Now we have Kevin Rudd … no hope and no cash.
Blogstrop says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:08 am

It’s worth catching up with Christopher Booker’s articles, as the situation the Brits find themselves in has parallels here.

He gives quite a bit of attention to climate change madness, the destruction of industries, over-priced electricity, government overspending, the tricky lobbyists for gay marriage, and the perils of having your sovereignty pinched by a supra-national government.

Misguided and interfering social worker nazis also get a serve on a regular basis.
Splatacrobat says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:13 am

It was perfectly apt for Abbott to refer to Rudd as the suppository of all knowledge and wisdom. Metaphorically speaking Rudd use of notes during the debate like a suppository to enable him to freely talk out of his arse.
Mike of Marion says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:19 am

Splatacrobat
#958266, posted on August 13, 2013 at 7:13 am

I have no doubt in my mind Abbott knew exactly what he was saying when he used those words.

It supported his other utterances like ‘waffle’. He had KRUDD pegged right from the word go.
Leigh Lowe says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:21 am

So stop pretending that people who want to be bash-artist millionaires can also represent Australia at the highest level: from now on, you have to choose to sacrifice money, be a Test specialist and represent your country at the highest level; or fuck off to the hit and giggle.

As evidenced by that great Victorian, Chris Rogers.
He looks and behaves at 11:01 that he wants to still be there at stumps and doesn’t care if he is 60 not out for a full days work.
The others look like they would be happy to hit a couple of sixes for the SkyNews highlights package.
Tintarella Di Luna says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:27 am

Tinta and Bloggy can bring me up to speed on this one since ShakeMyHead.com considers it the story of the day.

Sorry to let you down Tom had very sleepless weekend so went to bed at 8:30am and woke up just now though with respect to case workers and social workers From the media coverage in the past more unfortunate children died when Labor was in power and there were more social workers.

With Labor public sector employment it’s all about union membership not for any public good.

And isn’t it amazing that under Labor the privacy of children who die as a result of brutal abuse and neglect like their privacy is paramount now they are dead, or is it to protect the people who left them to live, short brutalised lives never knowing the joy of being warm, safe, loved, well-fed and content.

I used volunteer for an old charity that provides support for poor families, where the parents are young,with young children, the parents have drug problems, little or no education, there is domestic violence the children are left hungry and unkempt and uncared for, no stable housing-the sadness just killed me.

I variously taught them how to cook simple meals, how to sew simple clothing, how to budget, tried to get through to them the importance of hygiene and eating well and of course sending the children to school. Some of the parents were totally illiterate and innumerate, they were helpless children in the body of adults, children having children and the cycle rarely ends unless they are taking away and given a chance at life. Some thanks to social workers and case workers never get a chance at life at all.
Ellen of Tasmania says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:28 am

I like dogs bred to go down rabbit holes

Beagles. They are terrific with children but they do tend to follow their noses and disengage their brains. Dear little chaps though, and proper doggy sort of dogs.
Tom says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:34 am

Very comprehensive, Tinta. Thanks. And thanks to Bloggy.
Tom says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:38 am

Instead of targeting venues with the worst records for alcohol-related violence, the former Victorian state Labor government’s idiotic global crackdown on late-night liquor licences, along with Fair Work Australia’s hiking of penalty rates for bar staff, is decimating the entertainment industry. This morning we read that more than a dozen venues in the Greenfilth luvvie heartland, Brunswick Street, have been forced to close in the past three years.
Tintarella Di Luna says:

August 13, 2013 at 7:45 am

Went to sleep at 8:30pm not am. Just in casen people think I’d beenon a bender.
lotocoti says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:03 am

I’m a country lad, we’re not generally into those frizzy girly-looking dogs. I like dogs bred to go down rabbit holes, short haired terrier types.

Monty, look at a well bred standard smooth Dachshund (not the miniature).
Game as Ned Kelly and loyal as the day is long.
Leigh Lowe says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:17 am

I’m a country lad, we’re not generally into those frizzy girly-looking dogs. I like dogs bred to go down rabbit holes, short haired terrier types.

A dog needs to be proficient at fetching sticks.
Token says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:25 am

Gerard Henderson tries to give an alternate view in Gay Marriage Daily (check out the # of stories on the news section dedicated to a topic which most Australian do not see as a priority):

On Lateline last Friday, the former ALP Queensland senator John Black criticised the inconsistencies in Labor’s campaign north of the Tweed River. He commented that the ALP seems “to lack a coherent focus on the one demographic group – and the key group for Kevin Rudd [in 2007] was young working-class families in the outer suburbs, many of whom go to church and believe in God”. Black added that he has not seen “Kevin Rudd talking to those people a lot during the course of this campaign”.

It is unlikely that evangelical Christians or mainstream Catholics will be impressed by Rudd’s conversion to same-sex marriage. The same is true for Muslims who are an increasing influence in Western Sydney. Abbott’s enthusiastic reception in Lidcombe last week, at the end of Ramadan, was under-reported in the media. It should have been of concern to Labor.
. says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:34 am

Tom #958280, posted on August 13, 2013 at 7:38 am
Instead of targeting venues with the worst records for alcohol-related violence, the former Victorian state Labor government’s idiotic global crackdown on late-night liquor licences, along with Fair Work Australia’s hiking of penalty rates for bar staff, is decimating the entertainment industry. This morning we read that more than a dozen venues in the Greenfilth luvvie heartland, Brunswick Street, have been forced to close in the past three years.

It’s because of globalisation, tax cuts, Howard’s structural deficit, deregulation, privatisation and Tony Abbott.
Gab says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:40 am

Abbott has accepted an invitation to a Sky News people’s forum at The Brisbane Broncos Club on August 21. Rudd is yet to accept, insisting he wants a “real debate”.
val majkus says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:41 am

Rudd is yet to accept, insisting he wants a “real debate”.

I thought he’d just had one of those
val majkus says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:46 am

No one, however smart, however well educated, however experienced, is the suppository of all wisdom.”

the line of the campaign so far!
Gab says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:49 am

In his first and only parliamentary question time as resurrected prime minister, Rudd said”

time for the old politics of negativity to be dead and buried.

But that was then and this is now…

Senior sources have told The Australian Financial Review that Labor’s negative ads will begin soon and it was hoped these would help with a revival.
Rabz says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:51 am

Another collapse, another test meekly surrendered to those loathsome, chunderous pommy bastards.

And to the the Australians – you vile, narcissistic wankers – hang your frigging heads in shame, you pathetic z-grade plonkers.

You’re not fit to wear the baggy green, you f*cking imposters.
Splatacrobat says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:51 am

Abbott has accepted an invitation to a Sky News people’s forum at The Brisbane Broncos Club on August 21. Rudd is yet to accept, insisting he wants a “real debate”.

Ill Jong would rather the forum be at a high school amongst a bunch of selfie taking under voting age kids than at a leagues club where angry FBT voters might ask embarrassing questions.

“Real debate” is Rudds code for “keep me away from the hoi polloi”
Louis Hissink says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:53 am

This is interesting – the ALP are adamant that an Abbott government will be increasing the GST rate.

This is only possible if the ALP are intending to support it because it, an increase in the GST rate, can only happen if Tasmania and South Australia (ALP held) agree to it, as well as in the Senate, which the Greens and ALP control.

Hence we conclude, despite the rhetoric, that the ALP actually supports an increase in the GST Rate.
candy says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:56 am

He doesn’t class the first debate as “real” because he was found cheating and lost.
Rabz says:

August 13, 2013 at 8:57 am

Hence we conclude, despite the rhetoric, that the ALP actually supports an increase in the GST Rate.

Louis – Or, heaven forbid, they’re lying.

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