Monday Forum: October 28, 2013

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  1. Tom

    Gab, that vid you posted was great. It confirms what everyone knows: gym slavery is living death, as is sitting on your ass; short sharp bursts of exercise flood the system with feel-good endorphins.

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Neiman Marcus operates 79 stores across the country, including two Bergdorf Goodman stores in Manhattan, and the Last Call outlet stores.

    From my link to their sale and current activities, Dover B. Bergdorf Goodman (excellent places I agree) are under the NM umbrella.

    I’d never heard of the Last Call stores either till I read this.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pedro, remind me never to invite you to “bring your own” should you drop over for a barbecue….

  4. James in Melbourne

    Neiman Marcus operates 79 stores across the country, including two Bergdorf Goodman stores in Manhattan, and the Last Call outlet stores

    When I was spending some time at University of California Santa Cruz in 1986, the suavely cynical hipsters there referred to NM as “Needless Markup.”

    They had droll nicknames for everything. Cal was “Berserkely,” USC was University of Spoilt Children; one of their residential dorms, Descartes, was “Day Care,” – it was all very amusing. And fun, to one possessed of the ultimate weapon – the Australian accent, God bless it.

  5. Infidel Tiger

    Neiman Marcus will be launching its Australian online site tomorrow.

    When the stores open a country specific store it usually means they are going to stitch you up.

    I’d much prefer to buy off the US site and pay additional postage.

  6. Rabz

    I was shown around Manhattan in ’93 by a bird who worked in the midtown Bergdorf Goodman store.

    Good times, peoples, good times (apart from that whole regrettable WTC incident shortly before we arrived there).

  7. boy on a bike

    Some bushwalkers are more equal than others.

    Just thought of the perfect response to greentards wanting to keep hunters (sorry, Fauna Protection Community Workers) out of national parks:

    “Where is the social justice in your discriminatory proposal?”

  8. I have never heard of NM before. I see from the online store that the “men’s store” uses models that are of the extremely skinny metrosexual variety, with shirts and pants tailored accordingly.

    No normal man over the age of 30 would fit into their clothes, by the looks.

  9. Gab

    I’d much prefer to buy off the US site and pay additional postage.

    You may be right however the only way to check is to compare prices and freight costs. So far, the AUD prices are cheaper and NM state they will use cheap freight rates to Australia.

  10. blogstrop

    “comprehensive affordable, quality childcare”
    That used to be a stay-at-home-mother. Best quality bar none. Used to be affordable, if you didn’t also want two cars of recent manufacture, overseas holidays, a cartload of electronic amusements, lots of classy looking furniture, a house built to a higher standard and with more bedrooms and bathrooms … and so on.

  11. Tom

    the “men’s store” uses models that are of the extremely skinny metrosexual variety

    Translation: I am a fat slug.

  12. Infidel Tiger

    I see from the online store that the “men’s store” uses models that are of the extremely skinny metrosexual variety, with shirts and pants tailored accordingly.

    No normal man over the age of 30 would fit into their clothes, by the looks.

    I begrudgingly agree with you. This might be the most manly comment you’ve made.

  13. Rabz

    I have never heard of NM before.

    Gee, now there’s a surprise.

  14. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Although the English is not the best, this is a small article on jokes/humour under Socialist/Communist Governments that is well worth reading.

  15. Steve of Glasshouse

    Nice way to buy US etc is to have a pilot mate with PO Box in CA. Gets around that geo blocking crap.

  16. tbh

    Nice way to buy US etc is to have a pilot mate with PO Box in CA. Gets around that geo blocking crap.

    Exactly what we do, except our friends are in Houston. They are more than willing to be our “mules” or if they aren’t flying down to Perth any time soon will on ship it to us by Fedex.

  17. dover_beach

    I hear that Uniqlo is opening up a store/s here too. They have good quality gear at great prices.

  18. Preparatory fire onto the enemy objective preceding an assault?

    Grigory – I’d say it’s a little closer to target marking for a bombing run. On its own, it’s not going to cause any damage. What it might bring down in the future though…

  19. tbh

    Gab, that vid you posted was great. It confirms what everyone knows: gym slavery is living death, as is sitting on your ass; short sharp bursts of exercise flood the system with feel-good endorphins.

    It’s certainly how I feel about it. I can’t imagine not exercising. Quite apart from the fact that it keeps me in shape and the weight down, I feel fantastic after doing it. Why would I ever stop doing that?

  20. Infidel Tiger

    I hear that Uniqlo is opening up a store/s here too. They have good quality gear at great prices.

    All the big retailers are targeting Australia because we have some of the highest retail mark ups in the world and even after astronomical wages and rents they can make a motza… unless they re managed by Australians who seem to be complete an utter nincompoops at the rag trade game.

  21. Fleeced

    I have never heard of NM before.

    Gee, now there’s a surprise.

    Crikey Rabz, are you really having a go at SfB for not knowing about some metrosexual fashion chain? Do you go out shopping with JC for clothes?

  22. Ellen of Tasmania

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  23. kae

    However, I wonder how much extra it cost (in terms of man hours and money) to create fire breaks etc by hand, rather than sending one bloke up the hill on a bulldozer

    Send in the cows.

    Sexist!

  24. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    BOAB:

    Just thought of the perfect response to greentards wanting to keep hunters (sorry, Fauna Protection Community Workers) out of national parks:

    “Where is the social justice in your discriminatory proposal?”

    Y’know, I think you are on to something here. The name has to be perfect so you can link it to the Greens and get their endorsement. Then get it registered as a what, non-profit? Could it be a ‘green charity’? of some kind?

    Nice wanky website linked to the Greens too… you could suck up some pretty decent coin from the lefties with this strategy.

    You must get the bullshit right in that game.

    ‘Give us money to go hunting’ has to be turned into something like this:

    ‘Support for an ecological campaign’ requiring ‘Selected skilled volunteers’ for ‘rigorous remote area activity involving measurement and mapping of ecological damage caused by introduced feral species’ and ‘development of techniques for selective reduction of introduced feral species’

    You need to actually scare off the latte-slurpers and inner city greenfilth ‘hipster assholes’ (Iowahawk$trade;) while making them feel good about giving you money.

    ‘Native Fauna Protection Workers Association’

    Hmm. Have to get the form of words absolutely right.

  25. Beef

    ‘Support for an ecological campaign’ requiring ‘Selected skilled volunteers’ for ‘rigorous remote area activity involving measurement and mapping of ecological damage caused by introduced feral species’ and ‘development of techniques for selective reduction of introduced feral species’

    Don’t forget….With regard to climate change

  26. Carpe Jugulum (don't call me sven) HenchCritter

    The name has to be perfect so you can link it to the Greens and get their endorsement.

    Native Fauna Protection Coalition

    Stop Feral Pests League

    Diversity Council for Local Fauna

    GetUp Bilby

    Occupy Wombat

  27. Carpe Jugulum (don't call me sven) HenchCritter

    Don’t forget….With regard to climate change

    Climate Emergency Native Fauna Rescue Collective?

  28. Tom

    Mark:

    Parks For Nature.

    You know it makes sense.

  29. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Tsk. (Iowahawk™)

  30. 1735099

    Let the hunters into the national parks – great idea.
    Let them carry AK – 47s or Bushmasters – no limit on mag capacity.
    Make sure the general public knows they’re on the prowl – a public declaration would do the trick.
    Give it about two years and they will have wiped themselves out.
    Then the sane members of the population can use the parks as intended.
    Darwin was on the right track…..

  31. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Native Fauna Protection Collective
    Should be easy to get endorsement from various greenfilth wankers like Tubbsy etc. Needs a carefully worded mission statement and Beef’s right, it has to have climate change in their somewhere.

    I also know a couple of lawyerly types I can ask for advice on how to make the outcomes legally connected to collective dosh from the left without paying any tax on it.

  32. kae

    I’d like to see a soldier carry a bushmaster.

    Might take more than one, but.

  33. Poor Old Rafe

    LOOK OUT HERE COMES OBAMACARE

    (AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE)

  34. 1735099

    Surprised you haven’t heard of the M4A3 with your military connections and all, Kae…..

  35. Rabz

    are you really having a go at SfB for not knowing about some metrosexual fashion chain

    Yes – he’s a morbidly obese, staggeringly stupid, utterly appalling provincial ignoramus.

    As noted above, I’ve been aware of NM and Bergdorf Goodman for several decades – and no, I don’t buy their clothing. I get my suits and shirts tailor made and everything else I buy online direct from overseas retailers, e.g. Fred Perry and adidas.

  36. Splatacrobat

    Bushmaster.

    Only pussies drive Humvees.

  37. Aliice

    Splat

    What you really mean is only short men drive humvees.
    (dont beleive me – check it out at the lights? Same guys who drive big whopper SUVs. They are all short!)

  38. lotocoti

    Surprised you haven’t heard of the M4A3

    Would that be a Pullman Standard Car Co. or Detroit Tank Arsenal flavour?

  39. calli

    I love the new Catallaxy menswear blog…it’s giving me lots of ideas for Christmas pressies for the men in my life. Thanks guys. 😉

  40. Mr. Homent

    The Simpsons series is indestructible, but it’s actors aren’t. Edna Krabappel’s voice lady dies at 70.
    http://www.cnet.com.au/edna-krabappel-voice-actor-marcia-wallace-dies-at-70-339345812.htm

  41. Splatacrobat

    (dont beleive me – check it out at the lights? Same guys who drive big whopper SUVs. They are all short!)

    Compensating for something I suspect Aliice.

  42. Uh oh

    Guys, you’ll find that the “Bushmaster” is also a rifle. Looks a bit like the old M16 Armalite.

  43. Aliice

    Rabz

    One can tell you live in the inner west. All you buy is suits or sportsgear.
    No long shorts for you, no cool Tshirts, no shirts not supplied by adidas, no reef sandals, no wicks surfwear, no billabong, no aloha, none of that…look.
    Different tribe to my patch you inner westies. Suits or adidas sportswear (boring!).

  44. Rabz

    I hope not this Fred Perry

    No, the classic English made polos only.

    As I’ve got eight of them, won’t be buying any more soon.

  45. Aliice

    Splat – it was a theory of a girlfriend of mine, not mine. She swore on the bible all men driving big cars at red lights were well..short….
    compensating for lack of heel height with wheel height I imagine (dont put any other thoughts in my head Splat where none intended.I am completely innocent!)

  46. Rabz

    no reef sandals, no wicks surfwear, no billabong, no aloha, none of that…look.

    Yes – too bloody right.

    Stupid bloody yobbos.

  47. kae

    The Bushmaster is also a weapon?

    No shit, Sherlock.

    When I googled the vehicle I saw the weapon.

  48. kae

    Sorry, Uh Oh.

    Couldn’t resist that outburst.

  49. Splatacrobat

    No, the classic English made polos only.

    Minimalist approach Rabz? I like the cut of your jib.

  50. calli

    Good grief, Rabz. Seventy quid for a polo shirt! And here I was thinking Ned Kelly’s progeny were confined to selling cars on Parramatta Road. I’m impressed!

  51. Rabz

    Thanks Splat – I got my first ‘Fred’ three decades ago.

  52. Aliice

    Rabz

    I will forgive you. I like the Fred Perry’s but I didnt grow up down here on the northern beaches. I just got stuck here with a couple of bad dressers (son and hisband and its about the tribal stuff which means let it hang out- and wear shoes with no laces and socks you can barely see and two Tshirts one longer than the other (yep) and cargo long shorts with the waitsband just above the rear (things got a little crazy down here a few years ago when the waistline of shorts for the young dropped below the gluteus maximus sufficient to show the latest wideband bonds undies brand). I still do / and did always like / those sort of Fred Perry style shirts on men always (collars, open neck, some little insignia above the breast pocket area). Same was done by country road, polo, etc.

    Conservative and nice look.

  53. Aliice

    I will have you know Robbo

    They are not “bloody yobbos” those who like surfwear…do you mind?

  54. boy on a bike

    Time to sell Apple.

    Read all about the phenomenon of Custom Built Headquarters Syndrome.

  55. Fleeced

    70 pound for a polo… Crikey… not minimalist enough for me – LOL

  56. Yes – he’s a morbidly obese

    Looks like I have to expand my previous offer to send anyone who requests them some tastefully posed selfies sans shirt and pants to disprove this rumour. Gab never took me up on it.

  57. Aliice

    Robbo – what was I thinking? I meant Rabz and it got all confused with yobbo.
    I am losing it I swear…

    Anyway
    Rabz Yabz – I can show you what real yobbos wear if you want…so dont go knocking us beachside dwellers.

  58. Carpe Jugulum (don't call me sven) HenchCritter

    Needs a carefully worded mission statemen

    Native Fauna Protection Collective (Submission to Senator Milne)

    Senator Milne, we seek your endorsement in the Senate of the Native Fauna Protection Collective.

    We are a group of citizens committed to the protection of our native fauna and seek to protect it from the ravages of the climate emergency and incursions by those not indiginous to its normal habitat.

    Our proposal is to use an eco friendly projectile powered by production of the inert gas produced by KNO3C15S, the velocity of this environment friendly gas powered projectile will have the capacity to render the most invasive specis to a better plane of existence and better able to embrace Gaia.

    This has the dual benefit of not only protecting our native friends, but provides a ready source of renewable food/fertiliser thus providing a more sustainable future and providing a new ‘Green’ program for those who (by hand) manufacture the raw ingredients for KNO3C15S.

    This is a program well entrenched in the Americas and European Union and is often seen as a ‘family outing’ and has seen a wholesale embracing of the Deer, Caribou, Moose and Snow Rabbit.

    I reiterate, your endorsement is keenly sought for this important environmental program.

  59. Rabz

    The Fred Perry shirt is a fashion icon.

    It will never, ever go out of style.

  60. dover_beach

    Rabz in Fred Perry given his avatar was a no-brainer. Sort of like sfb wearing Rivers. It just makes sense.

  61. Sort of like sfb wearing Rivers.

    I fail to see the problem with that.

  62. Aliice

    Rivers to sfb is what Fred Perry is to Rabz?

    I will take the Fred Perry I think.

  63. Lucie

    Could also have been an ironic twist on “I get everything tailored by the House of Target”

  64. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    General Numbers, Racist Bigot and Self-Outed Onanist:

    Let the hunters into the national parks – great idea.

    Yes, it has been a highly successful program in NSW – and one the greens bitterly opposed. The partnership between NSWPWS and the SSAA in jointly managing the program caused significant declines in feral animal populations in State parks at no cost to the taxpayer, and with zero accidents or incidents.
    Glad you agree that this is a great program.

    Let them carry AK – 47s or Bushmasters – no limit on mag capacity.

    These are not legal firearms, nor are they actually useful in most of the terrain hunted. Why are you proposing a criminal action?

    Make sure the general public knows they’re on the prowl – a public declaration would do the trick.

    Actually, the NSWPWS/SSAA management protocols were far more sophisticated and effective than this. You really are an ignorant simpleton. There was, of course, a large amount of public consultation before the program commenced.

    Give it about two years and they will have wiped themselves out.

    There have been zero firearms accidents during program. Responsible shooters don’t have accidents with their firearms. Oh, part of the management protocols is that recreational shooters had to pass an accuracy test before a permit was issued, to ensure humane kills. Oh, and only SSAA members who accord to the Hunter’s Code – as we all do – participated. I normally drop a feral where it stands. If I cannot, I do not take that shot.

    Then the sane members of the population can use the parks as intended.

    This is, of course, an intended use of such parks. Glad you support it!

    Darwin was on the right track…..

    He certainly was. The species variation among feral animals in parks is progressing at a rapid rate. We already have distinctly different ‘upland bush’ and ‘lowland woodland’ feral goat types. This is why the entire range of small marsupials is being made extinct (foxes, feral cats), why ground-nesting native birds are vanishing at a frightening rate (feral cats), the microfauna is being essentially wiped out (feral pigs), larger marsupial populations in woodland being wiped out (feral dogs), and what I consider to be rapid and appalling native flora changes (feral goats and feral pigs) are occurring. I have spent much time walking in the Barrington Tops since the early 70s. Entire eco-systems have drastically alered over that time as waves of ferals moved in and most of the small marsupials (potoroos, quolls etc) common there in 1975 when I did ny first fauna survey are now locally extinct.

    You are, apparently, fine with this. I am not. And I put my own time and money into doing what I can to stop it.

    You are not only stupid, lazy, ignorant and a hoplophobe, but you are also an ecological vandal of the first order who through your bias supports the extinction of native fauna.

  65. Fleeced

    I will take the Fred Perry I think.

    $20 for polo from Rivers seems much more reasonable to be than £70.

  66. calli

    Could also have been an ironic twist on “I get everything tailored by the House of Target”

    I have no shame, Lucie…I have been known to darken their doors…and add to their profits. 🙂

  67. Fleeced

    Nothing wrong with Target… at least until they started charging for plastic bags.

  68. Splatacrobat

    I don’t like any clothing that has the companies logo any bigger than a 50 cent coin. I think there is nothing more stupid than seeing someone in a white T shirt (made in China for less than a dollar) with a huge brand name plastered over it.

    Pay $100 for a dollar T shirt and advertise their product for free?
    And these wankers…….Yes I know it’s a fucking Toyota!

  69. Aliice

    Fleeced

    I was just about to also to suggest to Rabz that Gant isnt a bad brand with some very stylish looks..
    so would you mind not making me feel guilty? Some nice looking…coats here.

    http://www.gant.com/men/clothing/outerwear

  70. pete m

    palmer nailed xenophon today for the high ethics crusader he is – and what a great achievement. – lol.

  71. The natural order of cheap clothes in Australia runs roughly in the following order:

    Lowes, Kmart, big W, Target, Rivers, Myers, David Jones.

    Lowes and Kmart and unacceptable for virtually anything; Big W for shorts, underwear and socks; Target and Rivers for some acceptable casual gear; and if you can’t clothe yourself acceptably via Myers or David Jones, you’re a snob with too much money.

  72. Aliice

    Splat

    I don’t like any clothing that has the companies logo any bigger than a 50 cent coin. I think there is nothing more stupid than seeing someone in a white T shirt (made in China for less than a dollar) with a huge brand name plastered over it.

    I totally agree. A few years ago Polo got carried away with its own brand and they inflated the size of the poloplayer on the horse. It was pretty tragic to see such a large horsey thingy on the breast pocket and it lost its way….

  73. Actually, Rivers underwear is sometimes good, too.

  74. Carpe Jugulum (don't call me sven) HenchCritter

    The natural order of cheap clothes in Australia runs roughly in the following order:

    Dude, that is creepy in the stalker sense.

  75. ? Once again, a claim that makes no sense.

  76. Carpe Jugulum (don't call me sven) HenchCritter

    Actually, Rivers underwear is sometimes good, too.

    See above re; creepy stalker types.

  77. Aliice

    Well I cant clothe myself acceptably from David Jones at all these days. They charge too much now and the quality has gone down the gurgler and its more like a Bali Bazaar with all sorts of brand shops under a bigtop tent.

    Not impressed. Who is David Jones? Its an amalgum of a lot of people and their personal brands now. Its like a market under a roof.

    Gone are the days when David Jones knew how to look after its customers and its showing in their share price. I can much buy better online for less money.

  78. jupes

    Anyone wondering why the west can no longer win wars, just listen to former Chief of the Army, Peter Leahy, talking about Afghanistan today on the ABC:

    PETER LEAHY: Yep. It was worth it. As I’ve said, it gave them a chance. I think it was also worth it because we have introduced a little bit of those values, a little bit of how you can do things. We’ve given girls an opportunity to go to school. We’ve opened up commerce. We have talked about getting rid of corruption. We’ve talked about legitimacy. So I think we should be proud of what we’ve achieved.

    Did we win the war Pete? Remember that old fashioned concept called Victory? I’m not a big fan of Douglas MacArthur, but he was right about one thing: There is no substitute for victory.

    But I also think we should take some lessons out of it. One of the first lessons is around the war aims. I just have a niggling fear that we didn’t quite get the balance right. We did too much security with the Army and not enough aid and development with those other agencies of government. So I think that’s the first lesson.

    The Army is not the Benevolent Society you numptie. It is there to win the land battle in order to destroy the enemy. Once the Taliban is destroyed, all those other things can follow. Except we didn’t do that so now we will be handing the schools that we built over to the Taliban. What do you think they will do with them Pete me old mate?

    To me it’s not so much the decision to go to war, but the decision about staying at war. And how do we adjust our war aims? How do we reconsider our exit strategy?

    We adjust our war aims to defeating the enemy. Then the ‘exit strategy’ is simple: Victory. I know it’s an old fashioned concept but it works its arse off. Perhaps we can try it next time. Peter Leahy was the first Chief of the Army who never went to war. It shows.

    The only thing ‘worth it’ to come from our commitment to Afghanistan, apart from killing plenty of jihadists and combat experience for the army, is that the Chief of the Army in a dozen or so years will have led troops in combat. Unless, of course by then it will be woman appointed by quota.

  79. Aliice

    The thing I recall about the “old style” David Jones was

    1. They always had chairs to sit on when trying on shoes
    2. You didnt have to rifle through boxes of shoes on sale
    3. You could return anything if you werent happy.
    4. They had enough staff to man the change rooms who hovered outside your door and were only to happy to go and look for the right size or a different colour for you.
    5. They had colour co-ordinated clothing and suggestions instead of racks of odd pieces like they have now.

    I am not impressed. David jones is no longer a department store that prides itself on customer service. It is a massive outlet store where you have to fight your own way through racks of ill matched clothes.

  80. Giffy

    That is true about David Jones, Aliice. Their stores have turned into Bali bazaars.

  81. Cold-Hands

    Actually, sfb is onto something. With an M4A3 , you could eliminate ferals and produce firebreaks at the same time.

  82. dover_beach

    ? Once again, a claim that makes no sense.

    Don’t listen to the voices, sfb.

  83. Brian of Moorabbin

    Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance

    President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

    Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”

    None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date — the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example — the policy would not be grandfathered.

    Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”

    That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.

    Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”

    More Hopey-Changey stuff thanks to the Coward-in-Chief, Obummer…

    RTWT.

  84. stackja

    boy on a bike
    #1050729, posted on October 29, 2013 at 9:00 pm
    Time to sell Apple.
    Read all about the phenomenon of Custom Built Headquarters Syndrome.

    Money is lost. In this case, Apple market share is being lost even as I blog this. Apple will either sort this iWork mess out quick, or watch a lot of people move over to Microsoft.

  85. .

    dover_beach
    #1050483, posted on October 29, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    I don’t think polyamory is institutionalised, and why did you ask this? It can’t be done as far as I can see. Some people formed a loose association to discuss topics. Whatever. This doesn’t mean they are professional either.

    Good, so on the question of polyamory you can be counted on as saying: No, we can’t provide legal recognition to polyamory because that cannot be an institution.

    People could still have a family even if marriage was effectively destroyed.

    And people can still have freedom of conscience even if they are imprisoned.

    When the Government regulates to ban, there is no way around it.

    I agree, and you will note that polyamory or SSR are not banned.

    The carbon tax for example was anti family. I’d rather the left went on some condoms in Catholic schools crusade than dream up the carbon tax.

    Honestly, the choice isn’t one betwen being killed by the grizzly or sodomized by it.

    They want full blown intervention in both the economy and the social sphere. They prefer soft regulation of the social sphere but hard regulation of the economy.

    They don’t want soft regulation of the social sphere; the proliferation of agencies focused upon every aspect of the social, whether it is child-rearing, etc., has been inexorable over the past century.

    Then you don’t take the idea that the single mother’s pension is worse than gay marriage regarding attacking traditional families. Your position is untenable.

    I really don’t know what to say about this assertion. This is the equivalent of that lame argument made by pro-abortionists that anti-abortionists only care about children while they’re in the womb. I actually do think single-parent payments and no-fault divorce are serious problems, but I’m clear-eyed enough to recognize that if the debate on SSM cannot be won then doing anything about the other two are made more hopeless by that loss.

    Again I’ve said too much.

    Polyamory…you PRESUMED that I thought it ought to have “legal protection”. Absurd. Polyamory is based on the absence of formalised relations or property agreements.

    You said that I conflated something – wrong. You presumed I conflated something. I didn’t. You conflated polyamory with polygamy.

    How can someone as well read as you make such a strange error?

    You note that same sex relationships can still exist if they are not banned but insist that we are regulated socially more heavily than economically. You can get two years gaol for growing your own tobacco. You can only get sued for breaching s18C of the RDA.

    You actually think that condoms in schools, a useful distraction for the left to keep their bloody hands off our jobs and incomes, will cause some great social disaster. Mass unemployment will cause more pain than some absurd violation of civil rights of religious school operators.

    Did I ever say that freedom was dichotomous? NO. I said that the issues the left chooses to pick fights on regarding social issues are dumb. Draw them into those issues and fight hard and win, they get nothing, and you risk less loss. In the least draw them into the most trivial of issues and hammer them for their triviality – Howard did this to Keating re the Republic, and later on, most republicans (most were left leaning).

    I also said the regulation of the social sphere, as opposed to economy, as much as I dislike the impression of a false dichotomy, is much less strong than regulation of the economy.

    Maybe when you get regulated out of a job you were qualified for, or denied entry to a couple of industries based on the most ethically corrupt crony capitalism imaginable, you will understand.

    Equating gay marriage to the single mothers pension is just stupid – gays make up a tiny proportion of the population. Most gay marriage will be between affluent couples who will be net taxpayers over their lifetime. Gay marriage will not break up straight couples or families. The single mothers pension has done more damage than no fault divorce etc and costs tens of billions a year. No fault divorce becomes a non issue if women enter adulthood viewing men as sperm donors and Government as a provider. Institutions matter but incentives trump institutions, institutions exist because of incentives…hence why you said polygamy works or is naturally occurring in some strange or unusual circumstances – or why it is rare in our society.

    I don’t know why it isn’t obvious to you that affluence buys political awareness and influence, and that starving the beast would shut down the means of enforcing s18 C etc.

  86. Infidel Tiger

    That is true about David Jones, Aliice. Their stores have turned into Bali bazaars.

    Bali bazaars provide customer service and great prices.

    Anyone who shops or holidays in Australia has too much money. This country is a toilet and we must admit that so we can start again.

  87. dover_beach

    You can walk into Century 21 and buy a pack of five Calvin Klein underwear for under $15. Avoid the store downtown and visit the one opposite the Lincoln Centre.

  88. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    DB – personal fave is the M4A3E2.

  89. .

    and if you can’t clothe yourself acceptably via Myers or David Jones, you’re a snob with too much money.

    Or you haven’t mastered how to use a web browser.

    I highly recommend double Oak Mills for snazzy mens dress shoes.

    Christ I hate shopping, online is a dream. It also sees me fulfil a moral duty, to utterly minimise my tax bill.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    I totally agree. A few years ago Polo got carried away with its own brand and they inflated the size of the poloplayer on the horse. It was pretty tragic to see such a large horsey thingy on the breast pocket and it lost its way….

    I went a Polo outlet store in NY by few years back. The folks fighting to buy the clothes were all Italian tourists and preppy black Americans. Very weird.

  91. Giffy

    I have “too much money”.

  92. .

    Gee…what a burden Giffy…

    Myer are really cutting costs, their shit customer service and “ghost town” staffing policies make me consider buying stock…what is their PE and dividend yield and dividend growth rate?

    Australia is a shithole and plain packaging has driven up the cost of my favourite cigars and seen them driven underground. I have to go slumming on Cigar Hut now.

    $50 for Borkum Riff? Yanks reckon it is utter shite. Maybe they are right and I’m the equivalent of a West End Draught drinker.

  93. Infidel Tiger

    Myer are really cutting costs, their shit customer service and “ghost town” staffing policies make me consider buying stock…what is their PE and dividend yield and dividend growth rate?

    Invest in Myer? While you’re at it you should load up on Blockbuster Video and Atari shares.

  94. .

    Christ I hate paying excise tax.

    JC – can you still get the good stuff online?

  95. calli

    Odd, isn’t it? I went to the Galleries Lafayette a year ago and it was like a zoo. I couldn’t wait to get out.

    Whereas Myer or DJ’s in my local centre was quiet, orderly, pleasant. But then, perhaps I’m a bit of a bogan after all.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    With regard to the evolution of menswear in this country.
    The former flagship store of Fletcher Jones on the corner of Queen and Elizabeth Streets in Melbourne closed last year.
    It is now the home of Culture Kings, a store packed with flat-screen TVs, shop assistants who address each other as “dude” and garish inventory sourced from China.
    At $60 for a T-Shirt, $160 for Jeans and $50 for a cap (backwards of course), one can dress shabbily for roughly the same price as an FJs suit.
    Sir Fletcher would be turning in his grave.

  97. Giffy

    Calli looked in a magazine and saw something she’d made. I’m wondering what it was.
    I wish she’d given a tiny hint.

  98. Fleeced

    Yeah, GB’s[1] and DJ’s are a joke…

    Shop online for the stuff you can, or while on holiday. I’m not going to pretend I have any sense of style and make suggestions of what guys should wear though…

    [1] Myer will always be Grace Bros. to me

  99. calli

    It was a quilt Giffy. Mystery solved.

  100. Giffy

    The best thing about David Jones was the very, very good-looking CEO.
    I think he’s gone now.

  101. .

    IT

    Check the PE ratio, cop a dividend for a while and sell out whilst the going is still good.

    Always check the chart as well.

    When Dunlop sacked a heap of moochers, I remember a 500% ramp up of their price.

    Their div. yield is very good, but their chart and PE is too high for me. Note to self: Wait for sentiment to “improve” (turn sour).

    I’m conflicted though. I own a few speculative stocks with bright futures and in SMSF own buy and hold only. Investing like that in Myer doesn’t suit my style.

    Probably not a good idea at all.

  102. Leigh Lowe

    I totally agree. A few years ago Polo got carried away with its own brand and they inflated the size of the poloplayer on the horse. It was pretty tragic to see such a large horsey thingy on the breast pocket and it lost its way….

    I try to avoid paying full tote odds for a product and then becoming a free billboard for their products.
    If the product is high quality it should be self evident, and not require that quality to be advertised on the front.
    Rugby League players wear logos on the jerseys to support a commercial enterprise but the rest of us shouldn’t have to.
    I remember some years ago buying a very nice jumper and people being bemused that I had carefully snipped off the sewn-on motif of the high-end manufacturer.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    It was a quilt Giffy. Mystery solved.

    Innocent until quilt is proven.

  104. Giffy

    I didn’t guess that, Calli.
    Good for you!

  105. .

    This is what men should wear: costs the fucking earth though…

    http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Loro_Piana

    They should make silk underwear just for laughs…you know the old saying…

  106. Giffy

    Can I see . in that cable cashmere?
    No.
    I can’t.

  107. Infidel Tiger

    If Sinclair & co would stop posting that economics guff the Catallaxy conversion to a food and lifestyle blog would be complete.

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    guys who drive big whopper SUVs

    Hey, Aliice, you are talking there about Da Hairy Ape that I love. And he is not short. Nearly six foot (as they used to say). And a bit burly with it, i.e. not a tall thin streak. Mmm, nice to be in those arms.

    He is not too fussy about clothes, except for business wear, when he does fuss and pays up a lot. He likes t-shirts from Rodd and Gunn and Tommy Hilfiger and Gazman for running around, and Armani Collezioni for a bit better (we are both fond of Armani Collezioni but not the Emporio so much).

    However, I don’t do much of a job at laundry with these more expensive ones, whereas I can chuck the others in the washing machine, hang them on a coat-hanger and then the only damage I can do is scorch them with the iron.

    Off to my book. I have moved on from the Wars of the Roses and am now on to Tudor England.
    Henry V111 could have done with previous useful advice on this thread re exercise and diet. When I was at Hampton Court recently I took particular note of his portraits. Mean little mouth, piggy eyes.
    Why, I wondered, did he allow himself to be depicted thus? Or was that the fashionable look? Or did he not care? Perhaps power, expressed by bulk, was in his own mind his main portrait feature.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    If Sinclair & co would stop posting that economics guff the Catallaxy conversion to a food and lifestyle blog would be complete.

    Hmmm.
    That has potential.
    If you edit it back a bit we might be able to do a line of t-shirts with a slogan like that.

  110. calli

    If Sinclair & co would stop posting that economics guff the Catallaxy conversion to a food and lifestyle blog would be complete.

    Nah…I still need some hints for Christmas pressies for the fellas IT. Otherwise it will have to be a Thermomix time share voucher.

  111. dover_beach

    dot, I don’t mean to sound tetchy, but I can’t really be bothered responding to any of that. Don’t think that I didn’t start, by the way, I did. But having reached your penultimate paragraph and reading you say that I equated gay marriage to the single mothers pension was just too much. The rest of that paragraph is similarly trying. Obviously, all the conversations I’ve had with you on this issue have come to naught. However, I will respond to this:

    I don’t know why it isn’t obvious to you that affluence buys political awareness and influence, and that starving the beast would shut down the means of enforcing s18 C etc.

    Spare me. When Bolt was before the Federal Court were you proposing that we simply ‘Starve the beast’ or more specifically repeal s 18C? This beast won’t be starved by slogans and I’ll be damned if I do nothing specifically while the situation gets worse.

  112. Giffy

    Oh. I was simply dying to know what he wore.
    Lizzie irons. Oh.

  113. Lucie

    Well, like you, Leigh Lowe, I’ll be snipping off the logo.

  114. Infidel Tiger

    I recently purchased a bottle of Solerno if anyone is looking for a refreshing summer liquor.

    It’s made from distilled Sicilian blood oranges and was invented by the same woman who created Hendricks gin.

    http://solernoliqueur.com

    Ver tasty on the rocks and perfect for the kids with soda water.

  115. dover_beach

    DB – personal fave is the M4A3E2.

    MK50, I’m not sure why you addressed this to me but I did think of the M4 tank of WWII and particularly of the Jumbo, but the Firefly was better.

  116. Giffy

    “I recently purchased ….”
    My husband says “purchased”.
    I ask him, sometimes, why he doesn’t simply say “I bought….”
    I cannot, in my wildest dreams, imagine myself saying “I purchased…”

    I know quite a bit about gin.
    I buy the best.

  117. stackja

    Sir William Tyree

    William TYREE
    TYREE, Sir William (Bill).
    Engineer and philanthropist, died peacefully of Melanoma at home on 25th of October 2013. Born in Auckland, NZ on the 4th of November 1921, his 92 years were filled with boundless energy, happiness and with amazing contributions to Australian engineering, science, industry, research, education and humanity. This unique and much loved Australian was predeceased by his wife Lady Joyce Tyree and is survived by his 3 children and their spouses, 12 grandchildren and 12 and a half great grandchildren.
    A memorial service in his honour is to be held at the University of NSW in approximately 3 weeks, full details of which will be announced during the coming week in newspapers and on line.
    Sir William has asked that no floral tributes be made. Donations to the Melanoma Institute of Australia would be greatly appreciated by him:
    http://www.melanoma.org.au/get-involved/donate/give-in-memory.html
    We will miss his dynamic, his love of life, his leadership and the excitement he generated.
    Published in The Sydney Morning Herald on Oct. 29, 2013

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Giffy, I have a long and scorching history of ironing on this blog. 🙂

    Mostly, I don’t iron. Prior to HIA mine was a drip dry world.
    Now I dry clean and send out laundry whenever I can.

  119. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Rule 1 – be a bloke not a metro.

    Rule 2. Fly to KL (or Singapore or Vietnam) with empty suitcases and have a great holiday or business/hols mix. Fill them with clobber you have taken out of the plastic and the price tags off. Get a good laundry to wash and fold the lot for you. Fly home. Customs say ‘Business trip, huh?’ You say, ‘Conference (which was true), combined with a brief holiday, took the missus along.’

    Rule 3 – make sure you take your missus with you to help pick gear that does not ‘date’.

    Outcome: Still wearing casual and basic business gear from a trip ten years ago. A white business shirt is a white business shirt: same brand as sold here for $50 at DJ’s I got there for $5. Needed 4 ($200 here). Got 15 and bargained a bit ($70 plus a couple of ties chucked in for free).That’s a fifth of the airfare right there. Shorts and casual wear the same.

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    distilled Sicilian blood oranges

    Ah. Citrus. Memories of Capri Limoncello.

  121. Giffy

    You’re a shocker, Lizzie.
    Yes, I thought you were kidding about the ironing. I mean, when would you find the time?

  122. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    DB – my error. Meant Cold Hands.

  123. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I know quite a bit about gin.

    Giffy, sweets, I’m not too sure you should advertise that fact.

  124. Ah. Citrus. Memories of Capri Limoncello.

    There is no Limoncello like genuine Italian Limoncello. Accept no substitutes.

  125. Why, I wondered, did he allow himself to be depicted thus? Or was that the fashionable look? Or did he not care? Perhaps power, expressed by bulk, was in his own mind his main portrait feature.

    Reminds one of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen from Dune. Except that an endless series of wives wasn’t his interest.

  126. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    And, Perturbed, Capri Limoncello is considered the very best of the best of it.

    Amalfi Coast – well, how did I ever find the time?

  127. .

    Spare me. When Bolt was before the Federal Court were you proposing that we simply ‘Starve the beast’ or more specifically repeal s 18C? This beast won’t be starved by slogans and I’ll be damned if I do nothing specifically while the situation gets worse.

    That doesn’t contradict any of what I said. It plays into the Howardian strategy I prefer.

  128. Giffy

    Well I am sure, Fay.
    Nothing wrong with knowing about alcohol.
    I know about cigars, also.
    Doesn’t necessarily mean I’ve indulged much.

    Did you see the standout anecdote here?
    Calli wrote about a magazine/something she made/her husband.
    That’s the gem you can chance upon when reading a site like this one.

  129. Ripper

    Fabians. What do we know about them?

  130. dover_beach

    It plays into the Howardian strategy I prefer.

    Which involved the Marriage Amendment Act 2004. Checkmate.

  131. Fleeced

    Fabians. What do we know about them?

    A recent cab driver informed me that Abbott was one and so couldn’t be trusted…

  132. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Yep, saw it Giffy. Don’t miss much. Watchful and shy little thing, me.
    Name is Lizzie, btw. Would hate you to get my own Hairy Ape confused with Fay’s.

  133. nic

    With regard to the evolution of menswear in this country.
    The former flagship store of Fletcher Jones on the corner of Queen and Elizabeth Streets in Melbourne closed last year.
    It is now the home of Culture Kings, a store packed with flat-screen TVs, shop assistants who address each other as “dude” and garish inventory sourced from China.
    At $60 for a T-Shirt, $160 for Jeans and $50 for a cap (backwards of course), one can dress shabbily for roughly the same price as an FJs suit.
    Sir Fletcher would be turning in his grave.

    Leigh, is Henry Bucks still on the corner of Collins and Elizabeth Sts?
    I have a few Loro Piano fabric suits. Good fabric, except my tailor went deaf when I asked if he could make me more at the original price the rotter.

  134. .

    Howard has a different ideology to me, DB.

    I can still admire his strategy without surrendering my belief set. What he did to Keating re the Republic is a prime example. It didn’t require him to promise the government do any more.

  135. C.L.

    I had to look up who Fred Perry is.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mk 50 – Forget Singapore or Kuala Lumpar. Fly to Viet Nam. The tailors in Hoi An turn out well made, 100% cotton shirts in 24 hours for the princely sum of $40. Take anything you want copied – they’ll do it overnight. Mrs Two Alpha ran amuck………..

  137. Giffy

    Here’s a thought, Lizzie.
    Calli might consider coaching you. No, not in quilting –
    Writing!
    A concise style – some intrigue – pleasing
    She might be willing. No harm in asking.

    Well, that’s all from me.

  138. JamesK

    Anyone who didn’t know Obummer was lying as he said “If you like your health care insurance you can keep it ” deserve to take the nightstick the Dems are ramming up their clackers.

    Obummer’s larynx and liar-steve’s keyboard are similar in that if either are use, ipso facto the leftist scumbag is lying

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Hey Calli, Giff’s made a suggestion. Are we on for it?
    We could work together to create our own distinctive literary style called ‘motif bogan’.
    I have the background and you have the eye. How could we fail?

  140. Gab

    It’s a little bit creepy how enthusiastically you greet the males here, sfb. Just a bit.

  141. JamesK

    Peggy Noonan:

    Mr Obama has gone from seeming like someone who doesn’t quite know what’s going on in his government to someone who doesn’t really want to. He has perfected a sense of surprise. He’s always finding out at just the moment you are, and feeling your indignation.

  142. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    S’Ok Gab, he does it to the women too.
    He’s an equal opportunity creep.
    As he’s here, I think I really am off to read now.
    New literary styles notwithstanding.

    Youse can all carry on without me.

  143. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m watching the promo on the A.B.C for Kerry O’Brien interviewing Paul Keating. I’d rather self examine my own prostate gland, with a red hot soldering iron.

  144. JamesK, you’re a medical man. If I email you a shirtless selfie, can you confirm to the blog that I’m not obese?

  145. Fleeced

    I had to look up who Fred Perry is.

    You’re not alone

  146. Fleeced

    That’s too creepy SfB, even for an attempt at trolling…

  147. nic

    confirm to the blog that I’m not obese?

    Obtuse, yes.

  148. I dunno, Fleeced. Sinclair mentions wanting to wear a mankini about 3 times a year.

  149. dover_beach

    We know Sinc is joking.

  150. Anyhoo, the Star Wars blooper reel (from the very first movie,) which Slate says had disappeared for a very long time, is quite pleasing to watch.

  151. JamesK

    Corner, NRO: Negotiating with Iran Without Leverage

    The Obama administration has urged Congress to take a sanctions timeout to see if progress can be made in reaching an agreement with Iran over its nuclear-weapons program. U.S. undersecretary of state Wendy Sherman, the lead American negotiator with Iran, said there is a chance to “gain traction” without sanctions.

    Since President Obama recoiled from military action against Iran’s vassal – Assad’s Syria – a common refrain in many Israeli and Arabic news reports is that Obama is ill-prepared to confront security threats in the Middle East……

    The lack of new sanctions ahead of the November nuclear talks (and a terribly non-serious military threat) show the U.S. has increasingly little leverage over Iran. The view from Tehran is that the Americans have become soft.

    The Washington Post’s Jackson Diehl captures in his article today, titled “Foreign Policy Based on Fantasy,” the shortcomings of Obama’s Middle East policies. He writes that “Israel and Saudi Arabia worry that Obama will strike a deal with Iran that frees it from sanctions without entirely extirpating its capacity to enrich uranium — leaving it with the potential to produce nuclear weapons.”

  152. JamesK

    CBS morning news:

    Obamacare: More than 2 million people getting booted from existing health insurance plans

    CBS News has learned more than two million Americans have been told they cannot renew their current insurance policies — more than triple the number of people said to be buying insurance under the new Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare.

    There have been estimates about hundreds of thousands of people losing coverage, CBS News’ Jan Crawford reported on “CBS This Morning.” CBS News has reached out to insurance companies across the country to determine some of the real numbers — and this is just the tip of the iceberg, Crawford said. The people who are opening the letters are shocked to learn they can’t keep their insurance policies despite President Obama’s assurances to the contrary.

  153. JamesK

    Lefty LA Times: White House OKd spying on allies, U.S. intelligence officials say

    The White House and State Department signed off on surveillance targeting phone conversations of friendly foreign leaders, current and former U.S. intelligence officials said Monday, pushing back against assertions that President Obama and his aides were unaware of the high-level eavesdropping.

    Professional staff members at the National Security Agency and other U.S. intelligence agencies are angry, these officials say, believing the president has cast them adrift

  154. C.L.

    It’s clear now that Obamacare is one of the greatest catastrophes in the history of public policy.

  155. C.L.

    How fat are Americans?

    ARMY RECRUITS GET LIPO TO MEET FITNESS STANDARDS

    /Drudge lead story

  156. twostix

    Fabians. What do we know about them?

    People who see Socialism achieved by the government controlling businesses not through nationalisation but through infinite levels of regulation and most of the wealth of the nation flowing through government via high taxes and breathtaking rates and levels of borrowing from future taxpayers.

    Unsurprisingly Blair, Brown and Gillard are all proud Fabians. The Australian Fabian Society absorbed the Gillard founded successor to the Australian Communist Party: the Socialist Forum.

    The current MO of the 21st century Fabian seems to be to flood the nation with as many unskilled third world peasants as possible outside of the official immigration system. Witness the UK under Blair, witness Gillard’s boat people armada.

    A good article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/never_call_socialism_by_its_right_name.html

    Deception is starkly illustrated by the Fabian Society’s famed stained glass window revealed by Tony Blair in 2006 at the London School of Economics. Designed by Shaw, it shows Fabians “Sidney Webb and ER Pease… helping to build ‘the new world’.” The most stunning thing to note is the Fabian Society’s coat of arms seen below: a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    Their “new world”:

    [Fabian] Socialism meant the “equality of income or nothing.” You would be fed, clothed, lodged, taught and employed — “whether you liked it or not.”

  157. Motelier

    WOW,

    I just had an original freedom fighter check in.

    William Wallace.

    I kid you not….Oh and he is Scottish.

  158. twostix

    It’s clear now that Obamacare is one of the greatest catastrophes in the history of public policy.

    Ted Cruz’s plan vindicated. The Republicans have clean hands and are on record fighting to delay it, next years ads will write themselves.

  159. How fat are Americans?

    ARMY RECRUITS GET LIPO TO MEET FITNESS STANDARDS

    At the start of the First World War, late-teenage volunteers to the Colours from the urban centres were requiring remedial feeding.

    Put the lardies on a battlefield and watch them run it off. Devil take the hindmost.

  160. Ivan Denisovich

    The left’s march through our classrooms and anticipated Abbott Govt response discussed here:

    http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2013/10/colonised-classroom/

  161. C.L.

    Today in ‘inevitability’ (with bonus ‘Today in felicitous metaphors’ – both brought to you by Google News):

    Same-sex marriage fails again in Tasmania
    Ninemsn – ?7 minutes ago?
    Same-sex marriage is on the backburner in Tasmania after an attempt to re-introduce it to the state’s upper house failed. 9RAW: Scaffold collapses from building façade.

  162. Tinta

    The left’s march through our classrooms and anticipated Abbott Govt response discussed here:

    http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2013/10/colonised-classroom/

    Kevin Donnelly has been an amazing warrior against the left’s capture of the classroom. By the time my older son was doing the HSC begged me to buy him the cannon of english literature because he said the last two years were an intolerable intellectual desert where everything was ‘text’ and where Shakespeare was given equal value to a bus ticket.

    He was chosen by his classmates to make the end of school address which was the bag-out of all the teachers, the English Department copped a particularly savage shellacking. He hated how the teaching of English was degraded and for that reason did not study English Literature at Uni

  163. He was chosen by his classmates to make the end of school address which was the bag-out of all the teachers, the English Department copped a particularly savage shellacking.

    Would give my eye-teeth to read this. I think we all would.

  164. Tinta

    Would give my eye-teeth to read this. I think we all would.

    perturbed it was a cracker, he asked me to listen to it for practice I blanched but he absolutely refused to change one syllable, he told me it was tradition and expected, it was a triumph the entire class erupted in delight at the end of it. Apparently the Maths the Department was quite peeved – they’d escaped the bagging completely. Fortunately/unfortunately he didn’t do maths.

    I was somewhat relieved his speech was counterbalanced by the address of the school captain who is a Korean boy. A young man who finished his speech by saying how honoured he was to attend a school with traditions that stretched back more than 100 years.

    He said that in his culture they had a special way of saying thanks — he then took off his blazer and prostrated himself before his classmates and the teaching staff. There was not a dry eye in the place and I have tears welling as I write, very powerful.

  165. Tom

    On Monday night, the ABC sneerathon Meeja Watch gloated over how morally superior Green Left fucktards are compared with bogans who buy tabloid newspapers:

    LAST WEEK’S VOTE

    Do you believe aliens are abducting Territorians?

    Yes: 42%

    — NT News, 18th October, 2013

    Now, that’s probably not scientific but on those figures, four out of ten NT News readers believe what they read in the paper, even when it’s as crazy as that.

    However, surely no one would try to stop them from printing this nonsense

    Sanctimonious arseholes like Paul Barry are too thick to understand the NT News and its readers have a fabulous sense of humour and gaming such an idiotic opinion poll is part of the joke. The NT is one of the world capitals of UFO stories because lots of people don’t live there.

    Stick a cracker up ya clacker, ya friggin drongo.

  166. Popular Front

    Professional staff members at the National Security Agency and other U.S. intelligence agencies are angry, these officials say, believing the president has cast them adrift

    Well of course they’re angry but also somewhat naive, they are ignoring the First Rule Of Politics = Cover Your Arse and also the Second Rule = Scarifice Any Minion To Protect Your Arse.

  167. Tinta

    Scarifice Any Minion To Protect Your Arse.

    Because it’s The One, in his playbook it’s non-discriminatory SATI – Sacrifice a Minion Immediately.

  168. Tinta

    OOps sorry PF I had angram fade – should have been Sacrifice A Technocrat Immediately

  169. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Lizzie irons. Oh.

    So do I.

  170. blogstrop

    The editorial (previously linked, I know) in The Australian re the ABC is the most direct broadside I’ve seen to date, and has at the end this explicit call to action:

    The ABC should have no political leaning and no discernible view except one of Australian nationalism, open-mindedness, curiosity, plurality and fair-minded debate. As a matter of priority, the Abbott government must review the ABC’s reach, role, funding and internal leadership.

    The ABC is also at the forefront of the gay marriage activist push which Albrechtsen addresses in her column today.

    A deeply anti-democratic strain permeates much of the debate. Start with some of the cant used by activists pursuing the gay marriage cause. They will, on the one hand, assure us that most Australians support gay marriage, yet in the next breath express ardent opposition to a referendum to change the meaning of marriage in the Constitution to reflect that apparent groundswell of support. Plain English translation: “Don’t ask the people. We, the political elites, will tell you what the masses think.”

    Now let’s see what the spaminator does with this two-link effort!

  171. Oh come on

    Look-ee what’s on the front page of the Oz

    THE supermarket giants will be put on notice over harsh bargaining tactics that damage food producers as the Abbott government vows to help the “fragile” industry fight back against cheap imports.

    So, just like Labor…it seems the coalition hates the poor, too. Fucking pricks. God I loathe them viscerally at times. I fully expect Abbott to be screeching ‘socialist!’ at his political enemies whilst lambasting $1 milk.

  172. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Greer was right when it comes to the treatment of females in islams (and a few minor non-islamic, but ME or African groups for the pedantic).

    It’s just a cultural thing.

  173. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Crap. Where did that extra ‘s’ come from in “islam”? Need more caffeine, not less.

  174. 1735099

    Jackie Howe’s shears up for auction at Sotheby’s.
    Another great Australian – prominent in the shearers’s strike that led to the formation of Australia’s greatest political party, and as tough as teak.
    Howe is up there with John Curtin (our greatest wartime PM), Tom Uren, man of steel and survivor of the Burma Railway, and TJ Ryan, who fought the good fight against conscription in WW1 and made Billy Hughes look like a goose in Warwick. All great Labor men……

  175. Tom

    The old communist troll again reveals the only purpose in its presence here is to bait and troll.

  176. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Oh, the humanity!

    Richard Fernandez on Obama:

    It’s getting so that even Andrew Sullivan is beginning to doubt his word.

  177. Tom

    One of the green left’s headless chooks, The Glimate Change Authoridy, which maintains the charade that it’s “independent”, continues to defy the new gubbamint, even though it will be abolished when the air tax is repealed:

    THE Climate Change Authority will today recommend a major increase in the national emissions reduction target for the rest of the decade.

    The independent body will recommend, in a draft report to be released this morning, that Australia deepen its target to up to 15 per cent by 2020.This compares with the current politically bipartisan target of an unconditional 5 per cent reduction on 2000 levels in emissions by 2020.

    The draft recommendation will put pressure on the Coalition, which has promised the 5 per cent by 2020 reduction under its direct action policy through its emissions reduction fund, which will essentially run a reverse auction funded by the taxpayer.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh, is Henry Bucks still on the corner of Collins and Elizabeth Sts?

    Yes.
    If you are ever facing the dilemma as to whether to buy a new television or a pair of socks it is the place to go.
    Extreme sticker shock.

  179. .

    Jackie Howe’s shears up for auction at Sotheby’s.
    Another great Australian – prominent in the shearers’s strike that led to the formation of Australia’s greatest political party, and as tough as teak.

    The Tree of Knowledge is a hoax.

    The shearers sabotaged the wool clip. They were not hard workers or anyone to idolise. They were grifters from the outset. The “colourful” rap sheet of many in the Australian Labor Party today reflects this.

    The ALP is built on lies. Their agenda has been to featherbed and destroy productivity. The idea that they look after “the workers” is utterly perverse.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Mr Obama has gone from seeming like someone who doesn’t quite know what’s going on in his government to someone who doesn’t really want to. He has perfected a sense of surprise. He’s always finding out at just the moment you are, and feeling your indignation.

    That is known as “doing a Peter Beattie

  181. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Tom, it’s what he does.

    Even after the thorough fisking I gave the idiot at #1050746, posted on October 29, 2013 at 9:14 pm, he pops up to troll on another topic.

    Any other topic. Even ones he’s been skinned alive on innumerable times.

    Wonder if the ALP or the ACTU will bid on Howe’s shears to keep them in-country?

    Thought not.

  182. Leigh Lowe

    THE Climate Change Authority will today recommend a major increase in the national emissions reduction target for the rest of the decade.

    The independent body will recommend …

    Independent, my arse.
    A bunch of Liars Pardy stooges.
    .

    The draft recommendation will put pressure on the Coalition …

    The ABC were running the “it will pressure the Coalition line”.
    What bullshit.
    The report will be through Tony’s shredder before morning tea.
    And what is it with a small group of Canberra journo’s who insist on using the word “Coalition”. Is “Government” too hard to say?

  183. Tinta

    That is known as “doing a Peter Beattie“

    Almost but Obummer does have the picket-fenced-toothed grin, but he is nonetheless as someone so accurately put the other day a common grifter. just like Beattie

  184. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    And so, another Numbers-troll-squishing commences.

    ‘Face it, Frank, you don’t come here for the hunting, do you?’

    The important questions:

    Monty, Shitfer and Numbers are Cat pets. They basically caper about for general amusement like dancing monkeys.

    But we don’t have a special name for such critters.

    In a moment or pure, pure brilliance, Abu Chowdah used the term ”Quoit-boy’. Which would make these three geniuses ‘The Catallaxy Quoit-boys‘.

    I think this is an excellent moniker, what say you all?

  185. Tinta

    And what is it with a small group of Canberra journo’s who insist on using the word “Coalition”. Is “Government” too hard to say?

    As far as the politic-journos are concerned in the ALPBC the elected government is illegitimate and Labor is still in government.

  186. Fleeced

    That is known as “doing a Peter Beattie“

    LOL… I was going to say it sounded like Bob Carr in his days as premier… I was almost amazed at the time how he managed to get away with it. He would be confronted by a journalist with whatever was the latest bad news/figures/statistics/events/whatever, and 10 seconds later would be ranting as though he were the leader of the opposition demanding action… And every time he did so, he not only got away with it, but his popularity improved! Obama doesn’t seem to have quite the skill at employing the tactic as Carr did though… In fact, in Obama’s case, I’m not sure it’s a tactic at all.

  187. Mike of Marion

    Oh dear!!!!

    Watch the South Australian Labor Government succumb to the Greenfilth on this one!!!! The Mantra will be ‘to leave it in the ground’.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ffe_1383068177

  188. Rudiau

    These folks keep coming up with the most revolutionary and politically incorrect ideas.

    The comments are worth reading:-

    The Family is the Basic Economic Unit. Together there is prosperity. Broken up there is poverty.

    One person made the entirely believable comment (as satire) of “dat be racist”.

    Here’s the rub: When whites put up a white family, that’s racist because it’s not diverse. If whites put up a black family, on a billboard that is clearly PRO-black family, THAT is racist because it’s talking down our nose. Same for Hispanics.

    What that narrative is really about is silencing criticism – of PC policies, of whites speaking in general, and allowing only one political view.

    White – black – Hispanic – frankly I don’t care: a pro-family message should be applauded for anyone / everyone.

    The disintegration of the family is at the root of many of our societal ills and not allowing a discussion about that, without first having to jump through hoops to satisfy a political agenda first, and family disintegration as an after thought

    .

  189. I think this is an excellent moniker, what say you all?

    You and Abu need to leave adolescence.

  190. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Expect trouble from this baby:

    Extra funding for the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, one of the most impactful elements of the 2009 economic stimulus, expires Friday, meaning poor families in all 50 states will immediately see steep cuts in government food aid.

    The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 provided a 13.6 percent funding increase to SNAP recipients beginning in April 2009, money the bill’s backers said would make its way quickly into the economy. But that extra funding ends Nov. 1. Every one of the 48 million SNAP recipients will see their benefits cut in their next checks.

    What happens when socialist ‘governments’ increase the entitlements of the welfare subclasses they created, then take them away?

    I suppose at least SNAP has helped them become so obese they can’t charge the barrycades, but watch out for them waddling the barrycades. With rest breaks every six feet. As long as there’s a KFC and a Maccas at the barrycade too.

  191. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Shitfer:

    I think this is an excellent moniker, what say you all?

    You and Abu need to leave adolescence.

    There’s one vote ‘yes’.

    We know Numbers is the junior Quoit-boy. Which of Shitfer and Monty is senior and gets to …. instruct?

    Certainly, Shitfer’s record on perversion and stalking makes him senior Catallaxy Quoit-boy?

    (Don’t say I am not on your side here, Shitfer)

  192. Rudiau

    CQB? Very good.

    Also
    3. cqb
    1. To solicit sexual favors via PMs on a forum or message board while extoling the virtues of monogamy, a chaste life, and devotion to God.

    2. To throw a hissy fit when someone makes fun of your religion, usually before being caught in the act of definition number 1.

  193. Mike of Marion

    Off Facebook

    Lou Reed and Renee Fleming in Prague in 2009.

  194. Tom

    what say you all?

    Quoit Boys is just a nice way of saying bum boys, which is blunters and more to the point.

    Shitfer, Monty, the Old Commo Traitor, the Hamster and Moonshine are just simple regurgitators of other people’s dumb leftard talking points. None of them has ever said anything here that someone else didn’t say first somewhere else. Bum boys.

  195. boy on a bike

    personal fave is the M4A3E2

    Uh oh, we’re turning into a World of Tanks blog this week.

  196. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Take no note of the Giff, Nilk. She do’ant like me.
    She used to be a midwife, fond of the gin. Hogarthian, isn’t it?
    Giffy, whip back in from the C18th to us here in the C21st and give your professional opinion on FGM.

    Nilk, from your link re FGM:

    Although Hussein’s experiment is the first time that the impact of political correctness on the anti-FGM campaign has been studied, ministers have already warned that peoples’ fear of speaking out could mean suffering goes unnoticed.

    Last week public health minister Jane Ellison declared that vulnerable girls are being ‘failed’ because people do not want to be seen as ‘culturally insensitive’.

    Sadly, I suspect it is more than just a fear of PC. It is likely to be also a fear of prosecution for being ‘racist’ if you don’t ‘go along with’ any demands made by a woman in a hijab in the UK.

  197. Rebel with cause

    one of the most impactful elements

    Impactful. What a horrible word.

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Tom, surely some university somewhere is just flowing with funds to get hold of those shears?
    Worked for Germaine.

    Tinta, having spent some years beforehand reading (just reading) a lot of good English literature, I found having to do English to matriculate to University (‘mature age’, lol, all of 21 years old) turned me right off ever making any formal study of ‘English’ ever again. I am at one with your son on this.

    for that reason did not study English Literature at Uni

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    JamesK: Hello!

    All your own work, Stevie.

    Who needs to leave adolescence??

  200. Tinta

    The disintegration of the family is at the root of many of our societal ills and not allowing a discussion about that, without first having to jump through hoops to satisfy a political agenda first, and family disintegration as an after thought

    The political vandals have always known the family is the strongest link and only through its complete collapse would they hold us captive. What’s bad for the family is bad for civilised society.

    While this body is diminished in stature and authority I’d just like to select some things Quoting the UN Convention on Civil and Political Rights which is in turn founded on the Universal Declaration on Human Rights –

    CONSIDERING that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the Charter of the United Nations, recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

    Article 17

    1. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his honour and reputation.

    2. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. (Where were the defenders of Tony Abbott and the smears and slurs on his reputation and family?)

    Article 23

    1. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

    What happened?

  201. Who needs to leave adolescence??

    Dear me, Lizzie. Nothing adolescent about me finding it funny how absolutely anything I say on any topic upsets JamesK.

    Because you haven’t quite grown up out of an adolescent girl’s interest in talking about yourself, you are probably reluctant to acknowledge that calling people the equivalent of “bum boys” merely for having different political views is a speciality of boy’s high school level rhetoric; in fact, I suspect that it probably doesn’t even occur all that much in high schools now, from what I can gather about the fairly progressive views younger folk have about homosexuality. So it’s a left over from the older bloke’s time in school in the 60’s and 70’s; and it’s about time they grew out of it.

  202. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Tom:

    Quoit Boys is just a nice way of saying bum boys…

    True, but Quoit-boy has a better ring to it!

    (Boom-tish)

  203. .

    Tinta, having spent some years beforehand reading (just reading) a lot of good English literature, I found having to do English to matriculate to University (‘mature age’, lol, all of 21 years old) turned me right off ever making any formal study of ‘English’ ever again. I am at one with your son on this.

    The HSC stopped me reading fiction for about 10 years. Actually studying literature again is alluring now.

    Maybe for about three weeks.

  204. Tom

    Who needs to leave adolescence??

    Touché, Lizzie!

  205. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    all great Labor men

    Wasn’t it a great Labor man who said “When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. It now contains the dregs of the middle class, who use the Party as an intellectual spittoon.”

  206. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Yup. Kim Beazeley’s dad.

  207. Steve of Glasshouse

    Catallaxy Quoit Boys..gerbil worming warriors. An opus in the making Mk 50

  208. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Dear me, Lizzie. Nothing adolescent about me finding it funny how absolutely anything I say on any topic upsets JamesK.

    You dissemble, dear Stevie, you dissemble.
    You wuz battin’ yer eyelids at ‘im.

    Eyelash batting is one of my own claimed areas of expertise here, Stevie.
    I know a practiced practitioner when I see one. Ya done good just then.
    Can’t fool me there, little man.

    Now, Stevie, on you go to your views on legally proscribing – proscribing, not wittering about it, I said too – FGM (not talking about myself there, Stevie, no siree, my Sainted Mother had many faults but thank the Good Lord sticking her girls naked to the waist under the shears wasn’t one of them).

  209. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. But as I look about me now, all I see are the dregs of the middle class. When will you middle class perverts stop using the Labor Party as a cultural spittoon? – Kim Beazley Snr to an ALP State Conference, circa 1970.

    With all the P-philes, corruptionists, thieves, perverts, brothel-creepers, nepotists, lawyers, liars and other degenerates who now seethe like maggots inside the festering corpse of the once-great ALP, perhaps this could be updated to read:

    When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. But as I look about me now, all I see are the largest turds floating atop the rotting lake of criminal sewage that the union movement has become. When will you P-philes, corruptionists, thieves, perverts, brothel-creepers, nepotists, lawyers, liars and other degenerates finish consuming the flesh of the dead corpse of the Labor Party, that we may cleanse its skeleton of you with bleach and rebuild it as a party of working Australians, for working Australians?

  210. twostix

    I suspect that it probably doesn’t even occur all that much in high schools now, from what I can gather about the fairly progressive views younger folk have about homosexuality.

    lol you really don’t know do you old man?

  211. John Mc

    All great Labor men……

    Typical Australian culture doesn’t give two hoots for these people, along with most other of your Labor ‘heroes’. It’s going to die with your generation. Whitlam is the only one who will have any recognition of substance.

    I grew up playing in shearing sheds, pass through Warwick regularly, and I didn’t know Jackie Howe had some sort of Labor connection. To most of the country who isn’t a frothing-at-the-mouth lefty he is a gun shearer from the days of hand shears.

  212. Ankou

    For those interested in last night’s discussion:

    Bushmaster Rifle

  213. Fleeced

    Seriously, lipo for soldiers… LOL – truth is stranger than fiction, is it not?

    “We can rebuild him… Slimmer than he was before.”

  214. Tiny Dancer

    Stevieliar QC, you’d be an expert on bum boys, too many visits to Darlinghurst Road for you. How’s the bracelet, much chafing?

  215. Beef

    All great Labor men……

    har har har

    An oxymoron if ever there was one from a CQB [*] F.A.R.T.S. member

    *Ferals And Retarded Trolling Scum.

  216. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Ankou, and the M4 Bushmaster either uses a 5.56mm or a truly pissy little 7.62 x 39 (same as the AK).

    Both rounds are unsuitable for hunting anything much larger than a goat. I’ll give the 5.56mm a decent varminter status, but little more than that. Pigs? Deer? forget it. Not even legal to hunt feral deer in NSW with 5.56mm. I’ve stood 60m from big red deer in NSW with my son. He had a .222 in his hands, and we watched them wander by. Could he have heart-shot or brain-shot at that range? Of course. Did he? Not under the rules, so we let them go on their way undisturbed.

  217. C.L.

    John Curtin (our greatest wartime PM)

    LOL. A chicken-hawk and a drunk.

  218. .

    Well

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_Gets_a_Gun

    Gone are the days of freedom, and sensible country coppers using discretion.

    It would be a laugh to air this – purely to outrage various wowsers, socialists and other assorted control freaks.

  219. Oh look, there’s a post here featuring prominent gay IPA figure Tim Wilson.

    As I have said before – if the right wing man-children here want to carry on with their high school name calling antics, why don’t they ask Wilson what he thinks about it, or call him “bum boy”?

  220. Rudiau

    Mk50
    Cameron Slater reviews chainsaw of the week.
    Mossberg 500 Chainsaw

  221. dover_beach

    Today in ‘inevitability’ (with bonus ‘Today in felicitous metaphors’ – both brought to you by Google News):

    Same-sex marriage fails again in Tasmania

    Good news. To our friends in Tasmania, thank you for holding the line.

  222. boy on a bike

    Nice quote:

    William F. Buckley, Jr.:

    A liberal is someone who is determined to reach into your shower and adjust the water temperature for you.

  223. C.L.

    High Court dismisses compo claim of female public servant over rooting accident:

    In a statement, the man involved in the act said: “I do not know if we bump the light or it just fell off.”

    “I think she was on her back when it happened but I was not paying attention because we were rolling around,” he said.

  224. Gab

    Unbelievable:

    NBN Co chairman Ziggy Switkowski has declared there will be no “no-go” areas in the strategic review of the nation’s biggest infrastructure project, saying the budget would be revised for all of its activities amid revelations of a $932 million loss in the last financial year.

    The memo came as the NBN Co’s annual report for the last financial year – provided to the Communications and Finance departments before the election, but not released to voters during the campaign – confirmed that the company recorded $17m in revenue in 2012-13 and warned of risks to long-term revenues, including the extent of consumer “substitution” to wireless internet services.

    Believable.

    Where’s monty?

  225. Giffy

    “Kevin Donnelly has been an amazing warrior …” – he surely has.

    As for ironing. I iron, too. Shirts, dresses, pillow-cases and the Irish linen tea-towels.
    Japanese men were asked what they find disappointing about modern wives. Many said wives no longer folded the husband’s underwear and placed same neatly in drawer.
    I’m modern and I fold the u/wear.
    Does one call a stranger “Dogsballs”, as you did, and receive warmth in return? Unlikely, Lizzie.
    No way Fay. Nup.
    To me, a touchy subject. Dogs’ testicles: Veterinarians encourage dog owners to remove the testicles, for the best, they say. I remain unconvinced.
    Mother Nature has protected the precious testicles with six or seven layers of tissue – and veterinarians cut through and remove.
    Out of respect for our noble dogs, don’t address people as above.

    What else – ah yes. The Prime Minister was sounding just like a politician re Muslim immigration.

  226. JC

    MSNBC Host: ‘Clintons Represent Style of Honesty Public Craves Right Now’…

    In comparison to the Kenyan? For sure.

  227. C.L.

    Bikie hysteria – do you wonder what’s driving it?

    Have a guess, as new gestapo bureaucracy established:

    Federal anti-gang squad launched to fight bikies in Victoria.

    A SPECIALIST federal anti-gang squad aimed at the growing bikie menace has been launched in Victoria.

    An investigator from the Australian Tax Office and five Australian Federal Police investigators will be embedded with Victoria Police organised crime specialists.

  228. Rudiau

    Still not enough?

    Abbas: No Peace Until All Prisoners Are Released

    Peace is not possible so long as there is even one terrorist still in an Israeli prison, says PA Chairman as he welcomes 21 freed murderers

    Of course not.

  229. lotocoti

    M4 Bushmaster …

    Re-chamber for the 6.5mm Grendel.

  230. C.L.

    After six years of Labor…

    New report: 27 percent of young people are unemployed.

  231. Ankou

    Mk50

    Thank you. Other than knowing that the Bushmaster rifle, rather than the armoured personnel carrier, was being referred to when first mentioned last night I have very little knowledge of or interest in firearms.

  232. hzhousewife

    Peace is not possible so long as there is even one terrorist still in an Israeli prison

    Then transfer them all to one of those Russian corrective educational prisons I
    saw on Dateline last night, that’ll cheer them up.

  233. C.L.

    Re “Palestine,” heard on ABC radio yesterday the announcer refer to negotiations between the two “countries.”

  234. dover_beach

    High Court dismisses compo claim of female public servant over rooting accident

    That this case had to make it to the High Court in order to be overturned is indicative of the spirit of the age.

  235. Sinclair Davidson

    DB – just made that point in a new thread.

  236. CL, if it worked for Al Capone, why wouldn’t you get the Tax Office involved?

    (Actually, I remember you are so ideologically pure that you didn’t like The Untouchables movie because you hated to see Prohibition being enforced.)

  237. .

    C.L.,

    Mate of mine said his friend from hometown at his work saw a group of bikies roll up and not pay for fuel.

    This sort of thing should be looked at. Stealing a huge amount of fuel etc over a few months of years is a serious string of offences.

    The reason why the AFP should be involved is that it may be interstate and involves excise tax.

    I am not really keen on militarising the police. They are trained to use weapons and the powers may be used on request.

    It is so obvious though – legalise drugs and organised crime will have to do an honest trade of beating people up for money.

    The community will turn against them.

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