Monday Forum: February 17, 2014

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  1. entropy

    People like Ms Carroll are the CEO’s of your local Tourism Board and your local Business Investment Board. They really have their feet on the ground. They make “assumptions”. Her quote is of the completely unaware “I know nothing!” statement. People like this get paid by your taxes and our membership fees.

    I don’t know this lady, or whether or not she does a good job or not. My dealings with CEOs of a number of tourism boards further north led me to the conclusion they were bullshit artists on the government teat, but without any accountability that a PS employee would have, that were all to keen to spread the loot among family members and more interested in internecine battles with the next town’s tourism board CEO than building their communities. I also suspected they pay themselves more than just about anyone’s else in those small communities.

  2. feelthebern

    Time to start digging some public service nerd holes, pa.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/immigration-privacy-breach-outrageous-as-asylum-seeker-details-published-online-20140219-3314f.html

    This is the most concerning thing to happen to Tony since being PM.
    All the Snowden, Indo, ABC shit put together isn’t worth a pinch of poop compared with sabotaging from the public service.
    You can defend a cities walls if your getting arrows in the back from within.
    The public service fool who Nash bungled the handling of falls into this category.

  3. feelthebern

    You can’t defend a cities walls if your getting arrows in the back from within.

    Too angry to type proper.

  4. Aussies Against The Abbott Government:

    Make no mistake – if you’re an aged pensioner, on a Disability Support Pensioner or unemployed, the Liberal Party of Australia think you are worthy of derision. Shame on their bigotry.

    My contact in their ABC, whom I’ve quoted elsewhere, adds:

    Conservatives are bigots. Every single one of them. Bigotry breeds in the fear and hatred of conservatism – it is the very cauldren of intolerance.

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    hey burn, it’s also ‘you’re’ (a contraction of you and are) not ‘your’ (a possessive).
    Just maintaining my reputation for pedantry. 😉

  6. feelthebern

    it’s also ‘you’re’

    Noted.
    Too angry to type proper.

  7. WhaleHunt Fun

    The poor bloody pedant farmer folk always get the nasty end I the pineapple. Why do the aristo spook down on the pedants? No pedants means no food.

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Conservatives are bigots. Every single one of them. Bigotry breeds in the fear and hatred of conservatism – it is the very cauldren of intolerance.

    The left are hypocritical bigots. Every single one of them. They are also liars. And fools too.
    The evidence is well and truly in on all of that.
    Just sayin’ …. it’s a shame really, as some nice people are still lefties, just thoughtless.

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    And surely it is well overdue time for a new Fred?

  10. Tom

    And surely it is well overdue time for a new Fred?

    The D-lord is a contrarian, Lizzie. Ask and you won’t receive. More fluttering of eyelashes required.

  11. Tom

    Any danger any of the airheads the Fucktard Media Industrial Complex could actually have a rudimentary understanding of how the world works?

    Grappling with the ABC of economics. ABC1’s Breakfast, Tuesday:

    MICHAEL Rowland: If one of Australia’s biggest energy providers has its way, households could soon be paying a lot more to heat homes …

    Virginia Trioli: How is it that these gas companies can do this?

    Tony Wood: Well … the east coast of Australia will be able to export large volumes of gas to Asia. In Asia … they’re prepared to pay a high price …

    Rowland: So domestic use is being short-changed … ?

    Wood: They’re being asked to pay the market price …

    Rowland: And the industry providers are essentially cashing in?

    Wood: … They’re taking advantage of that market situation … they wouldn’t have been developing all this gas if it hadn’t been for that Asian market …

    Trioli: I want to ask you about the mechanism … that allows them to now do this because that in itself is interesting … What’s being built and established to allow this export?

    Wood: LNG facilities …

    Trioli: This is a very interesting … isn’t it? Because we’re talking here about this exporting of gas and gas prices going up … it’s very complex …

  12. hammy

    A great article by Elizabeth Farrelly this morning on solving the disease of the private school issue.

    It could be done with very little cost to taxpayers. The school premises could be nationalised without compensation, as there are no individual owners. The teachers could be offered jobs in the enlarged public sector.

    Parents who had been using private schools could be levied a special tax for their use of the public schools system. This would be still be somewhat less than they were paying in fees for their privileged private schools.

    The only downside I can see is that the infusion of private school children into public schools may dilute the overall quality of student abilities.

    Of course the government would need to enforce transfers of children away from their present schools to ensure a proper mix.

  13. Rabz

    Great work Hammburglar. Every sentence in your comment above is an inversion of reality.

  14. hammy

    Every sentence in your comment above is an inversion of reality.

    Typical comment from a Cat. No logical argument – just mindless abuse.

  15. Tom

    Hammy, did you start voting for the Greens in 2010, 2007 or earlier? Just curious.

  16. Rabz

    I was merely stating the bleeding obvious, you fucking idiot*.

    *Abuse.

  17. Bear Necessities

    Elizabeth Farrelly would be numbers pin-up girl.

  18. calli

    Hammy’s précis of Barking Betty’s piece is a thing of beauty.

    Unfortunately, BB is serious.

  19. Armadillo

    Hammy, Pyne already has an advanced plan to shut down all the public schools. Andrew Bolt will be doing a live education feed for the kiddies with the extra half an hour he now has on Sundays. It should improve standards immensely.

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Trioli: This is a very interesting … isn’t it? Because we’re talking here about this exporting of gas and gas prices going up … it’s very complex …

    Why are you surprised that the bint doesn’t get basic supply and demand.
    She works in an institution which survives despite being all supply and no demand.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hammy – Private schools cost the combined governments about a third of what government schools do. This is because the parents pay the rest of the cost. Since these parents are reasonably well off it acts as a progressive tax.

    So if you close all the private schools you are cutting tax paid by rich people.

    You do realise that don’t you Hammy?

  22. Rafe

    OK, so no new thread at 9.00!

    How many other Cats are poised to get on the podium when sneaky Sinc puts up a new fred?

  23. Fleeced

    Muslim leaders issue a fatwa against anyone living on MARS as there is ‘no righteous reason’ to be there

    Yeah… there’s not even anything to blow up!

  24. Rafe

    Hammy, have you considered nationalizing the banks as well?

  25. Tom

    What happened with the Bolt Report being axed, as you reported here recently, Hammy? Your knowledge of media and political issues has always been impeccable. I was shocked when the facts didn’t co-operate with your thesis.

  26. calli

    So what could it be? Is he pangendered? Is he polygamous? Is he dwelling in a commune eating only raw foods? Is he living off the grid and existing on the barter system? What could it be?

    “Oh dear” indeed.

    And he wants to be a Pastor…now that is genuinely alternative.

  27. Leo G

    Today in Islam: … Muslim leaders issue a fatwa against anyone living on Mars.

    A case of birdbrain scholars studying Angry Birds v Mars Pigs, then issuing fatwa against associating with Martian pigs?
    Not as funny as the fatwa against Mickey Mouse or emoticons, or the 2007 fatwa advising adult females in a mixed workplaces with sexual tension to breastfeed the adult male coworkers, but right up there with the 2000 Saudi fatwa “The Transmitted and Sensory Proofs of the Rotation of the Sun and Stillness of the Earth”.

  28. Fleeced

    How many other Cats are poised to get on the podium when sneaky Sinc puts up a new fred?

    I dunno… is there any righteous reason to be there?

  29. Leo G

    “Of course the government would need to enforce transfers of children away from their present schools to ensure a proper mix.” – Hammy

    Desegregation bussing- what a novel idea.

  30. James in Melbourne

    Everyone interacting with “Hammy” should understand that the avatar is a piss-take of far-out lefty sloganeering.

    “Hammy” is not real, people. Think about it: literally, no-one could be that stupid.

  31. stackja

    Fleeced
    #1196241, posted on February 20, 2014 at 9:17 am
    How many other Cats are poised to get on the podium when sneaky Sinc puts up a new fred?
    I dunno… is there any righteous reason to be there?

    page six and 1,281 Responses to Monday Forum: February 17, 2014

    usually Sinc stops fred at five pages. Inscrutable!

  32. dover_beach

    Dame Elizabeth Farrelly, much as the rest of the cultural Left, will not rest until all transmitters of culture are in their hands. They really are fascist through and through.

  33. candy

    I think Hammy is real actually. A genuine communist in our midst! he really loves his communism. I wonder what he’s like in person to meet? and how do communists live?

  34. calli

    Yes James. But still great entertainment, and very good at condensing long winded brain farts into bite sized portions. 🙂

  35. feelthebern

    Hammy still hasn’t said what he likes on his pizza.

  36. Well, it will be interesting to hear Alfred’s report of this morning’s meeting when he comes home from school today because I just had a call from one of the vice principals, Vanessa Warren, who wants me to attend a hearing with her and my son (and, perhaps—for she was not too clear—, the principal as well). She spoke of suspending* Alfred for what she asserted was grossly offensive language. I put it to her that Alfred was not there as a representative of Hobart College and that no impartial observer would have reason to believe that he was representing the school thereat but she maintained that he was “right in the middle of a large group” from the school which, apparently, gives the school authority to determine speech codes in public fora. I also told her that I (and judicial precedent) did not consider Alfred’s robust and admittedly intemperate words to be remarkably offensive, but that made her even more breathlessly incoherent.
    At some stage tomorrow I shall probably feel obliged to mention that I have ’blogs and I’m not afraid to use them.

    * suspending! what a threat!

  37. Eddystone

    As well as nationalising schools and banks, I can’t believe no one has thought to nationalise the car and canned fruit industries!!!

    (That’s two separate industries, right?)

    Think of all the jobs that would be saved, plus we’d all get free cars (and canned fruit).

    Just as an aside, if we nationalise the banks, that means I don’t have to pay off my credit card, doesn’t it?

  38. Rabz

    he really loves his communism

    Marxist-Hammburglarism

  39. Eddystone

    Great, left here talking to myself.

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hmm, Fairfax increased their profit.

    That got me interested, so I went digging.

    Yes, deep in the results I find this:

    Advertising, print media 2012-3: $210.2M
    Advertising, print media 2013-4: $157.9M

    That’s a cratering by 25% in a year. Ouch. Now why would Fairfax have problems getting much advertising in their print mastheads like the Silly and the Phage? Could it be that Greens are stingy buyers and ignore advertising?

    They would do a whole lot better if they marketed their product to all of Australia not just the 20-30% of people who are far left.

  41. Leo G

    Everyone interacting with “Hammy” should understand that the avatar is a piss-take of far-out lefty sloganeering. “Hammy” is not real, people. Think about it: literally, no-one could be that stupid.

    Have thought about it. If Hammy wasn’t real, we should have to invent him. Taking liberties with authoritarian progressives for a mock-mockery of libertarian conservatives is a hoot.
    Hammy is my hero!

  42. Leo G

    As well as nationalising schools and banks, I can’t believe no one has thought to nationalise the car and canned fruit industries!!!

    Aren’t those industries now being de-nationalised (or something like that)?

  43. Leo G

    Next to Yorick, Hammy is my hero!

  44. calli

    Deadman, all the best for you and Alfred today.

    Tradition, diversity and excellence. I think your son lived up to the school’s motto. Some nice old Anglo-Saxon words, a difference of opinion, and expressed succinctly.

  45. Fleeced

    For those that still haven’t noticed: New Fred

  46. Gab

    Sounds as though the VP is a Greens voter and mightily annoyed at Alfred for daring to point out the Emperor has no clothes.

  47. Tom

    Sounds as though the VP is a Greens voter

    You mean there are teachers who aren’t Greens voters (apart from our Megan)?

  48. Gab

    Well, I wasn’t certain, Tom – benefit of the doubt and all – but after reading Deadman’s update I’m convinced.

    “Thereat”, what a gem you are, Deadman.

  49. Fleeced

    You mean there are teachers who aren’t Greens voters (apart from our Megan)?

    Yeah, but they’re either socialists or religious conservatives (or, somewhat amusingly, try to be both).

  50. nic

    I put it to her that Alfred was not there as a representative of Hobart College and that no impartial observer would have reason to believe that he was representing the school thereat but she maintained that he was “right in the middle of a large group” from the school which, apparently, gives the school authority to determine speech codes in public fora

    I’d be curious to know upon what grounds she is basing this. After all, they weren’t in any uniform. As such, were they really ‘representing’ the school?

  51. nic

    Today in Islam: … Muslim leaders issue a fatwa against anyone living on Mars.

    Pfft. Seeing as they are living in the Middle Ages, I dont expect Muslim space technology to show much improvement in the next two thousand years anyway.

  52. MT Isa Miner

    Deadman

    #1196255, posted on February 20, 2014 at 9:30 am

    Well, it will be interesting to hear Alfred’s report of this morning’s meeting when he comes home from school today because I just had a call from one of the vice principals, Vanessa Warren, who wants me to attend a hearing with her and my son (and, perhaps—for she was not too clear—, the principal as well). She spoke of suspending* Alfred for what she asserted was grossly offensive language. I put it to her that Alfred was not there as a representative of Hobart College and that no impartial observer would have reason to believe that he was representing the school thereat but she maintained that he was “right in the middle of a large group” from the school which, apparently, gives the school authority to determine speech codes in public fora. I also told her that I (and judicial precedent) did not consider Alfred’s robust and admittedly intemperate words to be remarkably offensive, but that made her even more breathlessly incoherent.
    At some stage tomorrow I shall probably feel obliged to mention that I have ’blogs and I’m not afraid to use them.

    * suspending! what a threat!

    Back your boy. 1. in the fight and 2 . in the long run. Might be 2 different battles, Deadman.

    The menopausal control junkie bitch from the education marxists will try everything to bully you but you keep the best interests of your boy right front. You might have to get legal advice if she wants to hang him out to dry. helps you negotiate better anyway. That sounds like I’m overreacting but I have seen the high school lot in action. They hate boys, independent boys and “right wing” independent boys like the devil.

    In the longer run it might be better that he learns the strength of the opposition and that he needs to fight from a position of power rather than a student. That might mean a gentleman’s agreement that “he used intemperate language because he feels so passionately about it. ” Some sucking up might have to happen ( by you ) once you have carved out his rights. You and he may make a decision that he holds his fire until he graduates. In the end the AWG crowd and their education zombies are fucked so a skirmish by your boy is nothing.

  53. Alain

    Can’t Alfred claim 1/16th Aboriginality? Then he can tell this vice-principal that global warming is offensive to his tribal religion because ‘the land and the environment always look after we Aboriginals who exist to tend to it’ and any attack on him for disputing anthropogenic global warming is actually white racism.

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