The ABC should be sold anyway

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89 Responses to The ABC should be sold anyway

  1. Nic says:

    Think of the savings. The sale price plus expenditure foregone for the next 50 years. What a bargain .

  2. Infidel Tiger says:

    Sold, razed, whatever.

  3. vlad says:

    Give that man a cigar!

    Sell Triple J now!! Yes!! I’ve been saying this for months.

  4. Marko says:

    Painful incongruity to see Senator Cormann smiling and listening to the new Senator’s (sensible) comments about tax. I feel betrayed by the ‘levy’: for what gain? And by what process of decision making- where was the rigour? They paid no attention to regular party members, but could they not have run it by Peter Costello?

  5. jupes says:

    Very good speech, let’s hope he lives up to it.

    Also let’s hope he doesn’t front up for a photo op with the Junky’s Wife in the next few days.

  6. candy says:

    If it was presented in a way so as to decrease debt in a substantial way but importantly at the same time not introduce a Medicare co-payment and one or two other unpopular fiscal measures, it may be an acceptable alternative for budget repair.

    On the other hand, the left media would present it as the ultimate fascist government stifling the media.

  7. Andrew says:

    It was sad to see the Nationals snort in derision when James mentioned his support for VSU.

  8. C.L. says:

    The National Party is a bunch of socialist yokels.

    Then again, so are the Liberals, the Greens and the Palmerites.

  9. . says:

    The ABC is obsolete. Sell, give away or let the rats take over.

  10. cohenite says:

    Who’d buy it?

  11. wreckage says:

    I’d say the Nats are actually marginall more free-market than the Libs these days, since their wealthy and influential constituents need trade and their other constituents want jobs. Unlike the Libs whose backers are all bankers and couldn’t give two shits about anything but the blessed security of being latched firmly on the government tit.

  12. Pete of Perth says:

    BBC

  13. Aussiepundit says:

    I’d love to see it get sold just to see the marches.
    Because there would be marches. Big ones. Possibly riots.

    But of course life would go on and despite the wailing they’d all get used to it after the fact.

  14. Gab says:

    Who’d buy it?

    If no one wants to buy it then just defund it and the leftards that love the ABC can crowdsource it to their evil little hearts’ content.

  15. Andrew says:

    I’d say the Nats are actually marginall more free-market than the Libs these days, since their wealthy and influential constituents need trade and their other constituents want jobs. Unlike the Libs whose backers are all bankers and couldn’t give two shits about anything but the blessed security of being latched firmly on the government tit.

    The Nats are the group that wanted car subsidies to continue, GrainCorp sale to be blocked and the foreign investment threshold to be lowered. They are much worse than the Liberals.

  16. Gab says:

    Face it, the Nats are the rural Greens.

  17. JC says:

    If no one wants to buy it then just defund it and the leftards that love the ABC can crowdsource it to their evil little hearts’ content.

    They’d rather watch Fox News and fulminate before any of those cheap fucks dug their hands into their pocket and stumped up the cash to fund it.

  18. Aussiepundit says:

    I don’t know why people continue to be surprised at the ABC’s bias.
    A public broadcaster is quite literally a socialist institution, as much as a public auto manufacturer or any other socialised industrial effort. What political philosophy do you think such an institution is going to foster? It is the antithesis of a free market enterprise; why on earth would the organisational culture be sympathetic to free markets?

  19. Rousie says:

    Rebrand it Centrelink & adjust the pay scales accordingly.

  20. MsDolittle says:

    Senator McGrath’s maiden speech is a hard act to follow. What a corker! Fingers crossed here.

  21. MsDolittle says:

    Rebrand it Centrelink & adjust the pay scales accordingly.

    But I’m rebranding Centrelink as “Welfare” hope that’s ok.

  22. vlad says:

    Because there would be marches. Big ones.

    Absolutely. Hundreds of people would march.

  23. H B Bear says:

    Hopefully McGrath and others can influence the dead rump of Howard’s Liberals aka the Abbott Cabinet. How did this radical idea slip through NSW Liberal preselection?

  24. Aussiepundit says:

    There would be, vlad. It wouldn’t be hundreds.
    But as I said, they’d get over it.

  25. entropy says:

    Nats supporters are prickle farmers that live on the smell of an oily rag and believe they pay for the rest of the country. The ones with big debt vote for Palmer or Katter or the rural independent de jour who is busy promising their access to OPM.

    The big establishment pastoralists are borne to rule country liberal.

  26. wal1957 says:

    I’ve only got a dollar on me, so I will be after some change!

  27. redcliffe redneck says:

    Didnt slip through nsw, he is a Queensland.

    Also on vsu, don’t label the Nationals. The other Queensland maiden speaker Matt Canavan who sits in the nationals party room stated he is pro vsu

  28. entropy says:

    I used to work with this chap’s father. Nice bloke.

    As I recall he was David Cameron’s campaign director and lost his job because he told the truth?

  29. wreckage says:

    Mehh, potato potahtoe, I’m an LDP voter for now.

  30. mundi says:

    Imagine if we took ABC’s $1b and raised by an optional $50 per person per year ‘ABC TV License’. I bet they wouldn’t even raise $0.01b.

  31. Peter says:

    I don’t know why people continue to be surprised at the ABC’s bias.

    Not surprised…….. Angry.

  32. Leo says:

    Can we sell the Liberal party instead? Oh hang on no one would have them.

  33. Cato the Elder says:

    They’d rather watch Fox News and fulminate before any of those cheap fucks dug their hands into their pocket and stumped up the cash to fund it.

    Too used to sticking their hands into everyone else’s pockets. Why not? They’ve got away with it for decades.

  34. Gab says:

    They’d rather watch Fox News and fulminate before any of those cheap fucks dug their hands into their pocket and stumped up the cash to fund it.

    Either way it’s still a win.

  35. Cato the Elder says:

    Face it, the Nats are the rural Greens.

    Not really, it’s just that most of them never met a subsidy they didn’t like. Historically they’ve been agrarian socialists like forever; and still are – just look at the arguments they had about shutting the “single desk” wheat sales.

  36. Armadillo says:

    There is only one politically palatable way to get rid of the ABC – thats to give it back to the people.

    Run an “It’s your ABC” campaign and distribute an equal share to every Australian taxpayer. Float it on the stock market. Tell the public you are handing their National Broadcaster back to them. They can either keep their share or sell their share, it’s their choice. It’s their ABC. Then immediately cut their funding to zero.

  37. Aussieute says:

    @Cato “most of them never met a subsidy they didn’t like.”
    Like the city folk who get free public transport and more but lets not comment about that.
    Interestingly the ABC Regional team are the most in touch of the journos in the regional media space.
    During the stuff up with the live cattle trade the regional reporters told the truth and were told “sit up or you are gone”
    Need a bright entrepreneur to make an offer to the Govt as a start of the breakup and a cost saver.

  38. boy on a bike says:

    Because there would be marches. Big ones.

    Oh goody. And then there would be water cannon.

  39. Free Advice says:

    Split the ABC and its budget in two and create ABC Red and ABC Blue.

    Give the Progs the ABC Red and two TV Channels and half the radio channels, and give ABC Blue the other 2 Channels and remaining radio stations.

    The Reds can keep their ABC gift shop and fact checkers, and smartarse undergrad comediens.

    Put Janet and Judith in charge of ABC Blue and hire new fresh people.

    Sit back and watch the fireworks!

  40. Roger says:

    Since when is proposing a tax hike Libertarian?

  41. Roger says:

    Or perhaps this is akin to Sen Leyonhjelm’s proposal to get the government out of marriage by increasing their interest in it?

  42. Infidel Tiger says:

    Since when is proposing a tax hike Libertarian?

    Unless it’s accompanied by an increase in the tax free threshold to $50,000 and a reduction in income tax to 20% tops, this communist turd can go root a boot.

  43. . says:

    Roger
    #1384306, posted on July 16, 2014 at 10:46 pm
    Since when is proposing a tax hike Libertarian?

    Huh? What tax hike? Which libertarian?!

  44. Roger says:

    Unless it’s accompanied by an increase in the tax free threshold to $50,000 and a reduction in income tax to 20% tops, this communist turd can go root a boot.

    Ah, IT: misuses the ad hominem, comes back with strawman.

  45. Roger says:

    Broadening and increasing the GST, dot, in case you weren’t paying attention.

  46. . says:

    I agree with Roger. The GST should never be raised. I don’t know if this guy is a libertarian yet.

  47. Roger says:

    OK dot, but it seems he’s being lauded as such by Sinc and Bolt.
    Frankly, I’m disappointed. Selling the ABC, however, is a no brainer.

  48. Infidel Tiger says:

    Ah, IT: misuses the ad hominem, comes back with strawman.

    My remark was directed at the Senator, not you doofus.

    The GST should not be touched unless there is dramatic reduction in income tax.

  49. Roger says:

    On second thoughts, apologies, IT, as I think I may have misunderstood you.

  50. Roger says:

    The GST should not be touched unless there is dramatic reduction in income tax.

    Agreed.

  51. Roger says:

    Doofus is going to bed. Had a bad day and too many glasses of red seeking consolation.

  52. Infidel Tiger says:

    No problem. My writing is not always clear. I was educated in the modern Australian school system.

  53. Rich says:

    Since when is proposing a tax hike Libertarian?

    Get rid of payroll taxes, the carbon tax, mining tax, and all the other inefficient taxes while substantially raising the income tax thresholds and I’m all for a consumption tax rise

    It would also result in almost all revenue flowing to the state governments, and less to the federal busy bodies who don’t actually run anything beyond defence and border control

  54. Andrew says:

    I agree with Roger. The GST should never be raised. I don’t know if this guy is a libertarian yet.

    Someone who likes cutting taxes is not automatically a libertarian. More likely a small-government conservative like Bob Day.

  55. JohnA says:

    He at least has one decent idea about the GST: include food (and probably a few other exempted areas).

    Then the rate could stay at 10% for a huge increase in dough, or be dropped to say 5% for about the same gross revenue as now.

    But as I said over at the BoltA blog, I am not hitching my wagon willy-nilly to this one or to David L. They both hold some wacky ideas that do not align with the way this world has been created, nor with how it is currently running (poorly, badly, abysmally – choose your own expression).

  56. Stephan says:

    Wrong.

  57. Ivan Denisovich says:

    Meh. He’s another Lib saying it might be possible to reform Their ABC. They’ve been talking about that for decades, put conservatives on the board, all to no effect. The thieving by the ABC collective has continued uninterrupted. It’s enough already. Just privatise it. I’m convinced that persistent talk from the Libs about reforming the ABC is actually a tactic aimed at appeasing its base while maintaining the status quo.

  58. mareeS says:

    What’s so difficult about carving up and selling sections of the ABC? It’s already a corporation (as in Australian Broadcasting Corporation), having been corporatized in structure around the same time Hawke and Keating corporatized a whole lot of other Commonwealth entities like Cbank, Telstra, Qantas, CSL etc that were actually sending dividend earnings to the budget and got sold off by Labor.

    In my particular part of the nation the Water Corporation (previously known as the Water Board) sends many $millions in “dividends” to the NSW government as a direct tax on water users. The NSW Govt would flog it off in a red-hot minute except for the divs/taxes it generates.

    So if the Australian Broadcasting Corporation is indeed a corporation, where’s the annual report to the shareholders (us? silly me), and what’s the declared dividend, IF ANY, paid to us, the shareholders, in the hands of the national Treasury? Where are you, the regulators that make every other business person’s life a living hell???

    My sale plan for the ABC would begin with ABC retail, it’s government subsidised in competition with private newsagents and bookstores. Also sell any metropolitan secondary radio and TV channels as pay for access, but keep all regional and country networks free.

    Send John Faine to Darwin, it will do his head in, and send Fran Kelly to Townsville. Precious people need to get out of their comfort zones.

  59. mareeS says:

    Refining what I wrote above, if the ABC is a corporation owned by the taxpayers of Australia, where’s the shareholder report, and why has there never been an AGM? It’s either a corporation or it isn’t.

  60. Jarrod says:

    The bolt blog vid doesn’t cut before the final handshakes.

    David L looked to have made a cheeky suggestion that he should sit over on the crossbenches with him and Bob. lol.

    The Wong chap, the Hyphen and Milney wouldn’t so much as look at him. If you piss off those three you know you have made some good points. Well done.

  61. Chistery says:

    Ricky Muir’s maiden speech! Can’t wait.
    Who will write it … And read it?

  62. Percy says:

    Who will write it … And read it?

    Druery will write it, maybe chucking in a couple of vroom vrooms to give it an AMEP feel. As for reading it, is lip syncing allowed?

  63. Tom says:

    From The Australian, June 24, 2008:

    Boris Johnson adviser James McGrath sacked in race row
    AUSTRALIAN political strategist James McGrath is “gob-smacked” after losing his job as chief political adviser to new London mayor Boris Johnson over allegations he had made a racist comment.
    “I am certainly not a racist and nobody even seems to be accusing me of being a racist,” Mr McGrath told The Australian. “I have fallen on my sword, but I feel I have been unfairly set up in this whole thing.”
    The 34-year-old Queenslander’s hopes of a parliamentary career in Australia might have been ended by an exchange in which it was put to him that some black Britons might leave the country if Mr Johnson became mayor, and Mr McGrath responded: “Let them go if they don’t like it here.”

    Mr McGrath’s downfall began at a meeting a month ago with black political activist and left-wing “citizen reporter” Marc Wadsworth, who was referred to him by Lynton Crosby, the Australian campaign director who had worked with Mr McGrath on Mr Johnson’s election campaign.
    Wadsworth reported on his website — the-latest.com — on Friday that in the meeting he had raised with Mr McGrath a claim by another left-wing commentator that some older blacks from the Caribbean might leave Britain if a right-winger such as Mr Johnson became mayor.
    Mr McGrath had responded: “Let them go if they don’t like it here.”

  64. Senile Old Guy says:

    The GST should not be touched unless there is dramatic reduction in income tax.

    Exactly. The fundamental problem I have — as has already happened — is that when tax increases and decreases are proposed, the increases usually get passed and the decreases usually get dropped. The end result is an increase in tax.

  65. JMH says:

    Senator McGrath may well receive an email from me expressing my support. I thought it a fine maiden speech and I hope the good Senator sticks to his guns because the battle he has before him will be extremely difficult.

  66. MemoryVault says:

    Senator McGrath may well receive an email from me expressing my support. I thought it a fine maiden speech and I hope the good Senator sticks to his guns because the battle he has before him will be extremely difficult.

    And I can get you a good deal on a bridge and an opera house if you’re that gullible interested.

  67. outsider says:

    If the river bursts its banks and runs a new course, people such as McGrath, Bernardi, Morrison might attain greater prominence. Hope springs eternal, despite the ruin. I’d currently settle for Reith and Costello, more interested in actions than acting. The leader must change however.

  68. Alfonso says:

    “some older blacks from the Caribbean might leave Britain if a right-winger such as Mr Johnson became mayor. Mr McGrath had responded: “Let them go if they don’t like it here.”

    Excellent politics, that attitude will effortlessly suck up support from Kylie and Shane, Howard’s battlers and Labor’s base deep in western Sydney.
    Put it on your business card matey, there’s nothing but advantage .
    K&S will transfer the thought to primitive 3rd world immigrants without being told.

  69. .Dr.Sir Fred Lenin says:

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    Wonder if anyone would applt?

  70. jupes says:

    I don’t know if this guy is a libertarian yet.

    Well he hasn’t had a photo op with the Junky’s Wife yet so early signs aren’t good.

  71. Rococo Liberal says:

    Shut down all news and current affairs on the ABC, except for regional news.

    Leave the classical music and the drama and good dcumentaries. Merge the ABC and SBS.

  72. Matthew says:

    The speech is a big snore. 100 year war against tyranny? I don’t think so. More like a war ginned up to get the populace scared enough to give up the rights so hard won by their ancestors.

  73. . says:

    Jupes – you may think you’re a smart arse but you’re not cut out for it. Andrew’s comment at 12.05 am is correct. Small government conservative perhaps. If we get enough “starve the beast” then the libertarian position becomes the default one as the government lacks the resources to regulate the minutiae of our lives.

    Hence why his idea to raise the GST is flawed in my opinion. Cutting taxes and keeping the GST at the same rate would see the GST collect more revenue anyway, from increased economic growth.

  74. Gaetano says:

    I can’t say I agree with the privatisation of Triple J. Unlike the ABC news service, Triple J is a great station with the best music. It’s a wonderful platform for musicians that otherwise wouldn’t have their stuff played on commercial radio or any station that comes under the ACMA, which itself needs to be toned down. The ABC needs to be stripped clean, I agree, but Triple J is not on the same level. It actually provides a far more balanced approach to issues than any other ABC entity.

    I’d be in favour of Triple J privatisation if it didn’t have to abide by silly laws and regulations set out by the ACMA (stuff like rude songs and the like).

  75. Tom says:

    The speech is a big snore. 100 year war against tyranny? I don’t think so. More like a war ginned up to get the populace scared enough to give up the rights so hard won by their ancestors.

    Cheerio, “Matthew”. Always room at the Cat for a big government totalitarian troll urging the populace to get over losing “the rights so hard won by their ancestors”, who would be embarrassed and angered by the political shithole Australia has become.

    You have the Orwellian doublespeak down pat.

  76. And Another Thing says:

    I guess it would be tempting to buy an established network. But it would come with the incumbent staff, no one with any idea of running a commercial enterprise and no goodwill, except got the extreme green-left. Perhaps just the license could be sold.

  77. Alfonso says:

    “I can’t say I agree with the privatisation of Triple J.”

    Everyone has their own favourite crony lifestyle taxpayer subsidy.
    The moral solution is you and your listening mates send them money and leave me with mine to go fishing.
    It’s not a difficult concept.

  78. Aussiepundit says:

    Gaetano,
    TripleJ has a hard-left culture and is more extreme than the other arms of the ABC.
    It has a huge amount of clout in the music industry, too much in fact. It’s an odd and dangerous situation for a government agency to have such influence in the conduct of market players and competitors.

    While it does promote new Australian acts, TripleJ get to pick and choose which acts they promote. Often they promote rubbish and ignore talent because it doesn’t fit in with the direction they want to take, or the musical culture they promote. In short they have a distortionary effect on the music industry. This is not an advantage.

    I’d be in favour of Triple J privatisation if it didn’t have to abide by silly laws and regulations set out by the ACMA (stuff like rude songs and the like).

    Well, all the other radio stations have to abide by those regulations. It makes a mockery of the law when there is one radio station that is allowed to ignore the law.
    And by not having ads, and by not being bound by the sort of regulations that other stations are, TripleJ gets an unfair market advantage.

  79. thefrollickingmole says:

    Gaetano
    JJJ is a youth station run by 40 year olds who still have their asses wedged in the same chairs they did when it started.

    Yes it *could* provide a springboard for new artists to get more exposure but only if the follow the party lines.
    There is just as wide a selection on the little community radio stations which are arguably more “grass roots” than JJJ.
    1/poofteenth of the money consumed by JJJ could fund and expand most of those. What the “Left” wants is another national propaganda station, cradle to the grave remember.

  80. MemoryVault says:

    Will people stop rabbiting on about “selling” the ABC?
    You can’t “sell” something that costs $1.2 billion a year to run, yet has no tangible, salable product to show for it. And it’s not as though it’s sitting on billions of dollars of capital assets.

    In its current form I doubt you could even give it away.

  81. 1234 says:

    You are all dreaming. Privatising jjj would be fiercely opposed by industry as it would take ad revenue. They like it just where it is – developing talent and trialing concepts.

  82. . says:

    1234
    #1385042, posted on July 17, 2014 at 1:49 pm
    You are all dreaming. Privatising jjj would be fiercely opposed by industry as it would take ad revenue. They like it just where it is – developing talent and trialing concepts.

    Except that is complete and utter bullshit. It stifles talent.

    BTW – where is the fierce resistance to AIM and You Tube?

  83. Infidel Tiger says:

    You are all dreaming. Privatising jjj would be fiercely opposed by industry as it would take ad revenue. They like it just where it is – developing talent and trialing concepts.

    They can buy it then.

  84. . says:

    Privatising jjj would be fiercely opposed by industry as it would take ad revenue.

    Herp a derp.

    “Listening to JJJ as it is now doesn’t take ad revenue away” – 1234 – you shouldn’t vote, serve on a jury or run for office, and you should be income managed by a competent adult.

  85. rickw says:

    Will people stop rabbiting on about “selling” the ABC?
    You can’t “sell” something that costs $1.2 billion a year to run, yet has no tangible, salable product to show for it. And it’s not as though it’s sitting on billions of dollars of capital assets.

    Crap, shut it down, strip and divest assets, there’s both money to be made and satisfaction to be had!

  86. Anon says:

    The price of the ABC is $1 billion in the first year, $1 billion in the second, $1 billion in the third……. WE are in a sellers market. Give it away – you’ll make a fortune.

  87. wreckage says:

    They like it just where it is – developing talent and trialing concepts.

    God forbid that they stop outsourcing the cost of their RnD to the taxpayer and gobbling up the rewards.

  88. Paridell says:

    13 months ago, the Greek Government used emergency powers to close down the whole Hellenic Broadcasting Corporation overnight. Yes, overnight, on 11 June 2013.

    Three TV channels, a high definition channel, 29 radio stations, an orchestra, and the national digital archive on the Internet – all gone. The staff occupied the headquarters building for months afterwards, but were eventually expelled by riot police.

    Can’t see anything similar getting through the Senate, though.

  89. Squirrel says:

    Yes, it bloodywell should. For the first time in a long time I endured about 15 minutes of Q&A, just to see what David Suchet might have to say for himself. No problems with the little I saw of Suchet, but that show epitomises just how far the ABC has strayed – it is insufferable.

    The fact that the ABC is now using the Hunters & Collectors anthem in its promos suggests a degree of anxiety about their appeal to middle Australia – they should be very anxious, indeed!

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