Climate Criminals of the World – Rejoice: Carbon Tax Repealed!

A message from John Roskam:

A few minutes ago the Senate voted to repeal the carbon tax. Let’s pause a moment to reflect on our achievement.

The Institute of Public Affairs has never wavered from its principles. The IPA will always stand up for what is right, not what is popular.

The IPA has always stood firm against carbon taxes – even when every political leader in Australia thought they were a good idea.

Abbott ETS

With high-quality research, compelling analysis, and a loud voice communicating the evidence, we changed the debate.

Together, we’ve now won the debate.

It was your financial support that allowed the IPA to do all of this.

So thank you for your courage. You did what was right – not what was easy. And we prevailed.

I have an op-ed on The Drum talking about the carbon tax:

The repeal of the carbon tax should not be seen as bad politics stymying good policy. No doubt that is what carbon tax supporters will argue, but like WorkChoices before it, the carbon tax was bad policy on many levels. Ultimately both policies suffered from the same defect – a lack of democratic legitimacy.

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483 Responses to Climate Criminals of the World – Rejoice: Carbon Tax Repealed!

  1. Robbo

    Having finally rid ourselves of that appalling tax can attention now be turned to making our political scene clearer and more relevant to real issues by getting rid of those bloody Greens and that idiot Palmer and his litter.

  2. DavidLeyonhjelm

    I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    The President told us we were disorderly, although I think he was smiling.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Its a great day! A win for truth against the forces of ignorance and totalitarianism.

    The Left must understand that catastrophic global warming cannot occur and is not supported by the scientific data. Pursuing a lie will not help you. Ditch it.

  4. I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    The President told us we were disorderly, although I think he was smiling.

  5. Shelley

    Let’s also take a moment to reflect on the jobs and businesses lost due to the lousy tax. But yes – great work for now. The fear is what is the next climate change policy thought bubble that will come along and wreck as much damage?

  6. Mr Skeletor

    ABOUT
    FUCKING
    TIME!

    I’ll be warming popcorn while waiting for the supposed enviromental appocalypse which will be occuring 6:00pm Greenwitch Milne time

  7. Grigory M

    Excellent – so far. But, when will the repeal legislation go to the Governor-General? It needs his signature to become law ASAP.

  8. I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    The President told us we were disorderly, although I think he was smiling.

    LOL. Nice work, David.

  9. Alfonso

    Don’t think for a moment the ETS is gone finish.
    The financial Establishment lust after it as an unlimited unending profit centre.
    One, that when global, will dwarf all other derivative markets except currencies and interest rates.
    You don’t let that fade away because some low rent pollies don’t yet understand how the system works.

  10. hammy

    I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today. We have effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations. The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

  11. Gab

    Carbon dioxide tax gone.

    Next: the RET.

  12. Aussiepundit

    I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    The President told us we were disorderly, although I think he was smiling.

    I applaud you, David Leyonjhelm.

  13. incoherent rambler

    Its a great day! A win for truth against the forces of ignorance and totalitarianism.

    Its a great day! A win for truth against the forces of ignorance, deception and graft.

  14. Baldrick

    Now for the R.E.T. Mr.Leyonhjelm …

  15. incoherent rambler

    I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    David, thank you.
    Is the RET is surely your next highest priority?

  16. Roger

    Meanwhile, Bill Shorten is gearing up to make the next election a poll on his new and improved version of the carbon tax. This is quite possibly the best gift Tony Abbott could receive at the present time when his political fortunes are otherwise looking dismal despite today’s victory. But the question still remains to be answered: Who is more stupid, Electricity Bill or the electorate?

  17. C.L.

    So by how much did the carbon dioxide tax reduce Earth’s temperature?

    Maybe Labor could get Chapman the plain packaging spinner to come up with a number.

  18. incoherent rambler

    Here I am agreeing with Hammy (again).
    I too am “thoroughly ashamed and disgusted that Hammy is an Australian today”. I also agree that the criminals (Greens, ALP) in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

  19. Gab

    I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today.

    Just today? You ought to be ashamed of yourself every day 🙂

    We have effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations.

    Good stuff. No proof of that but.

    The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

    Agreed. Yes, I’d also like to see the Greenfilfth and Labor in the docks for the many deaths they have caused at sea, on land and for the many lives ruined due to this globull warmening insanity. And for spening taxpayer money on something that is not based on science.

  20. Baldrick

    hammy
    #1384798, posted on July 17, 2014 at 11:51 am
    I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today. We have effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations. The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

    If the Hamster disagrees then it must have been the right decision.

  21. C.L.

    Journalists being rude to Barnaby on 24.

  22. Rousie

    Carbon dioxide tax gone.

    Next: the RET Greens

    Perhaps the good senator could enlighten us on what their next move is likely to be

  23. Infidel Tiger

    The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

    Yes. I hope I live long enough to see The Greens and Jacquie Lambie executed.

  24. C.L.

    Milne presser (earlier):

    “The oceans are rising.”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  25. Aristogeiton

    Somebody give Stephanie the number to JC’s suicide hotline…

  26. Lysander

    Dead buried cremated.

    Woo hoo!

  27. Gab

    Journalists being rude to Barnaby on 24.

    They’re not journalists. They’re Greenfilth/Labor sycophants with microphones.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks to David for his principled stand.

    We are indebted to you, as is all of Australia.

  29. michaelfstanley

    I hope the Liberal Party works hard to ensure the Direct Action policies it promised the Australian people are delivered – could the Australian people take any more broken promises in this area?

  30. James of the Glen

    Yay!!!!

    Next the RET and iniquitous REC’s.

    And why not give Hamster a cooling off period in the slammer for abdication of regard for truth and misrepresentation of science. Not to mention comprehensive idiocy.

  31. Tom

    July 17, 2014 — only 10 months and 10 days since the electorate voted for it.

    But the people who lost the election got to stonewall for 10 months and 10 days.

    People who voted one way in the House of Representatives and the exact opposite in the Senate are getting the chaotic obstructionism they deserve.

    The rest of us who believe in old-fasshioned concepts like government mandates can go fuck ourselves, apparently.

    Empower the left and they will do the only thing they know. Destroy everything.

  32. incoherent rambler

    It is a good start.
    The greens were recently bragging how peak electricity prices were topping $1 per KWH, India (using our coal) electricity prices are 10-12c per kwh.

  33. Rousie

    Hamster – forget the sack cloth and ashes & channel that anguish into a Canberra Carbon Convoy.
    Hipsters on bikes and unicycles as far as the eye can see

  34. Infidel Tiger

    Not too long ago, Milne would have been scooped off the street and treated to a lengthy course of electric-shock therapy.

    The old ways were often the best ways.

  35. incoherent rambler

    electric-shock therapy.

    IT, can we afford the electricity?

  36. stackja

    TA said he would stop the boats.
    TA said he would get rid of the carbon tax.

  37. Fisky

    The Left defeated and humiliated!

  38. Senile Old Guy

    I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    Well done. Credit where it is due. Thanks to all who worked for this.

  39. Infidel Tiger

    I’m delighted to have contributed to the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Bob Day and I stood and clapped when the repeal bill was finally passed.

    Any chance you and Bob could give the PUPs some economic lessons?

    I have rarely been as pained as I was yesterday listening to Lambie doing her “they took our jerbs” routine.

  40. thefrollickingmole

    Milne losing her shit

    Amy lip wobbles or is it eye bulging Hysteria while surrounded by nodding dogs (The idiot advisers or other pollies who think standing behind the leader and nodding gives it gravitas)..

  41. JC

    You fucking ripper. Now lets impose the Fisk Doctrine.

  42. Cheryl

    Well done David and Bob. So happy today.

  43. Infidel Tiger

    IT, can we afford the electricity?

    We can now!

  44. Brett_McS

    The IPA is splendid. The most effective Think Tank I have ever come across.

  45. Infidel Tiger

    TA said he would stop the boats.
    TA said he would get rid of the carbon tax.

    TA said he would never raise taxes.

    2/3 aint bad.

  46. JC

    Hey, you know what would send Tubbsie around the bend. The abolition of the gerbil authority and getting rid of the brown bank. That would send her straight to the JC leftie suicide hotline. The call centre is aware that I must be called, even in the middle of the night, if tubbsie phones in. That’s my call.

  47. Robbo

    “I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today.”

    I’m ashamed and disgusted too Hammy because I have to share the oxygen generated in Australia with an imbecile like you.

  48. Aristogeiton

    Robbo, Hammy doesn’t generate oxygen, he generates carbon “pollution”.

  49. Tom

    From the OF:

    nic
    #1384837, posted on July 17, 2014 at 12:09 pm
    This is interesting. The media outlets who mourn (we all know who they are) are only serving to further illustrate how different they are and out of touch with mainstream Australia.

    Brilliant point. Apart from the ceremonial defeat of the anti-civilisationists, today and tonight’s TV news will tell the politically disengaged that the media can’t be trusted just to report news, that it takes sides and was barracking for the air tax and all its hangers-on.

  50. Gab

    Hey, you know what would send Tubbsie around the bend.

    Surely it’s time you sent Milne one of your tweets?

  51. C.L.

    Shorten and Wong coming up on ABC24.

  52. Robbo

    It’s all very well for those two independents to claim credit for the repeal but NOTHING would have happened without the calm and rational leadership of Tony Abbott and his Liberal/National colleagues.

  53. incoherent rambler

    For those of you who have received a winter electricity bill.
    Divide the number by 4. That is what it would be without the RET and various green schemes that promote wind and solar.

  54. Infidel Tiger

    Quick question. Wasn’t the libertarian brethren at Catallaxy demanding a carbon tax back in 2007/2008?

    JC, can you confirm this and also confirm you were in the affirmative on this position?

    The first step to forgiveness is a heartfelt apology.

  55. C.L.

    Electricity in this country should be like $2 a month.

    We’ve got thousands of years worth of coal, gas and yellowcake.

  56. Infidel Tiger

    Electricity in this country should be like $2 a month.

    They should pay us to take it off their hands.

  57. C.L.

    Quick question. Wasn’t the libertarian brethren at Catallaxy demanding a carbon tax back in 2007/2008?

    Yes. Yes they were.

    It was the best “market” “solution” to the “problem” of “climate change,” they militantly insisted.

    This is exactly how the marriage thing will wind up as well.

    Five years from now, bakers will be in jail and the LDP will be saying OOPSA-DAISY.

  58. Gab

    Just imagine how industries would flock back to this country if electricity was so much cheaper without the green sword of Damocles hanging over our heads.

  59. whyisitso

    It’s all very well for those two independents to claim credit for the repeal but NOTHING would have happened without the calm and rational leadership of Tony Abbott and his Liberal/National colleagues.

    Not the sentiments of the vast majority of commenters on this blog, Robbo. Anti-Abbott to a man (and woman).

  60. C.L.

    Wong chap on 14 now.

    Blaming Abbott …

  61. 70s Playboy

    I shall put another playboy bunny on the bearskin rug in front of the fireplace tonight and celebrate with all my being

  62. struth

    “I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today. We have effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations. The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.”…..

    Friggin Hammy.
    Can’t seem to understand that if the senators are criminals, so are the people that voted them in.
    That’s what the people want.
    The majority have won over a dishonest government that brought the tax in without the consent of the people.
    Only a noisy minority (yawn) like usual, have got the grizzles.
    Grandstanding conspicuous compassion ,” Look at moi” lefties.

    We produce sweet FA of the world’s pollution anyway, so as a continent, let the other continents try to get down to our minimal output . The cleanest, greenest continent in the world, so if you want to hamper our international competitiveness by raving on bullshit about a carbon tax, you are either a destructive dopey western hating socialist, or you are a destructive dopey, western hating socialist.

  63. Infidel Tiger

    You know the disappearance of the Catallaxy archives has a stunning parallel with the wiped IRS hard drives.

  64. hammy
    #1384798, posted on July 17, 2014 at 11:51 am
    I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today. We have effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations. The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

    Best. Comment. Ever.

  65. Andreas

    Left-wingers going nuts on twitter. LOL. How sweet it is.

  66. C.L.

    Tits Shorten on 24:

    We need a new carbon tax.

  67. incoherent rambler

    Wasn’t the libertarian brethren at Catallaxy demanding a carbon tax back in 2007/2008?

    Not this little black duck. Then I was arguing the scientific case that AGW was a crock.
    I came to realize that the battlefield was in the ideological arena. Green taxes are designed to impoverish.

  68. It’s all very well for those two independents to claim credit for the repeal but NOTHING would have happened without the calm and rational leadership of Tony Abbott and his Liberal/National colleagues vast right-wing conspiracy funded by the Rinehart cheer squad of the IPA and sundry other disgusting bloated carbon capitalists.

    Tee hee.

    Bloated, and proud of it.

  69. Infidel Tiger

    Not the sentiments of the vast majority of commenters on this blog, Robbo. Anti-Abbott to a man (and woman).

    It’s very hard to give credit to a man who campaigned to rid Australia of an illegal carbon tax who then introduces a Wealth Tax.

    His Gillardian dishonesty will not end well.

  70. C.L.

    Shorten:

    Australians want a new carbon tax.

  71. Aristogeiton

    JC, IT, I’m just going to leave this here.

  72. Five years from now, bakers will be in jail and the LDP will be saying OOPSA-DAISY.

    CL, I love you.

  73. Electricity in this country should be like $2 a month.

    They should pay us to take it off their hands.

    I’ll drink to that. I’d leave the stove on all day, just so that the cat could snuggle in the kitchen.

    It would be very good for the electricity and gas industries. A little stimulus package all in itself, one might say.

  74. incoherent rambler

    We are indebted to 39 senators. Thank you to the 39.

  75. JC

    Your wish, gab.

    @senatormilne Days like this, great to be Australian. But enough about me, how do u feel Christine? Have the oceans risen since the vote

  76. C.L.

    Journalists going at Tits furiously with pillows.

  77. C.L.

    The feeling is mutual, Philippa. 🙂

  78. “This is going to be a short-lived moment for the Abbott government. Because global warming is not going away”, says Christine Milne in Canberra, freezing her tits off.

    As reported in the SMH, accompanied by a photo of her rugged up like a purple Eskimo.

    It’s just too funny.

  79. Your wish, gab.

    @senatormilne Days like this, great to be Australian. But enough about me, how do u feel Christine? Have the oceans risen since the vote

    🙂

  80. srr

    I like the way Larry Pickering put it –

    CARBON TAX (AND THE GREENS) ABOLISHED

    Tony Abbott has just achieved better than he was hoping for. His refusal to guillotine the filibuster in the Senate debate on the Carbon Tax Repeal Bill, has forced Bill Shorten to declare in both Houses his platform for the 2016 election: “There will certainly be a Carbon Tax under the Government I lead”.

    Either Shorten actually believes a carbon tax on Australians will further cool the globe, or he is a political idiot… maybe it’s a case of both.

    The despicable, lying, opportunistic Greens have just been crucified on their own carbon cross and either side of them hang Rudd and Gillard.

    Ode to the Greens:

    Never has so much damage been done to so many by so few.

  81. Aristogeiton

    C.L.
    #1384897, posted on July 17, 2014 at 12:32 pm
    Journalists going at Tits furiously with pillows.

    Are they asking how proud he is that the Opposition are finally delivering on the promise they took to the last election?

  82. JC

    His Gillardian dishonesty will not end well.

    He hopes we’ll forget. Like fuck we will…. The lying dishonest bastard.

  83. nic

    I think Bolta and Tim Blair deserve credit too. They have been consistent mainstays in getting the message out.

  84. Gab

    Nicely done, JC.
    Has a certain “do you still hear the screaming of the lambs, Clarice” quality about it.

  85. C.L.

    I think Bolta and Tim Blair deserve credit too. They have been consistent mainstays in getting the message out.

    History will or should recall that Tim Blair was the first public commentator to mercilessly demolish “global warming” in this country.

  86. Infidel Tiger

    He hopes we’ll forget. Like fuck we will…. The lying dishonest bastard.

    Are you talking about Humphrey’s Carbon Tax proposal which you supported?

  87. incoherent rambler

    Never has so much damage been done to so many by so few.

    That is recyclable.

  88. Gab

    Look forward to seeing Abbott declare July 17th a public holiday.

  89. Many others of us, of course, have opposed the stupid ‘carbon’ tax from the outset.

  90. C.L.

    Abbott presser coming up.

    Now watch the journalists go on the attack.

  91. Fisky

    Anyone seen Grey? He told us the election had been fixed in advance to keep “carbon pricing” forever.

  92. Tom

    I’m delighted thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today. We have finally shouldered effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations. The criminals in the Senate who delayed this day for almost a year must one day be brought to justice.

    See how easy it is to be an optimist and celebrate commonsense, Hammy?

    Take yourself out for a celebratory ambulance cake and cream. With your skinny soy macchiato. Before your afternoon thrashing from the dominatrix.

  93. incoherent rambler

    Milne has a list of people who deserve credit.
    I would add Jo Nova and Jennifer Marohasy to the list.

  94. Myrddin Seren

    The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

    I for one request the Trade Union RC to investigate any and all links between Senator Stephen Conroy and extravagant remuneration to NBN consultants, contractors and/or relevant unions. Thanks Hammy.

  95. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #1384854, posted on July 17, 2014 at 12:16 pm
    TA said he would stop the boats.
    TA said he would get rid of the carbon tax.

    TA said he would never raise taxes.
    2/3 aint bad.

    ALP will not allow all the necessary cuts. Money has to come from somewhere. Hopefully people will accept the needs for cuts.

  96. Viva

    Milne: Australia is the first government in the world to reverse action on climate change.

    Now that’s the sort of leadership the world actually needs. Congrats Tony and crew.

  97. nic

    With a win like this, kicked off by Blair, I’d be worried if I was a frightbat. (rubs paws).

  98. Infidel Tiger

    Graeme Bird deserves a shitload of credit too.

  99. JC

    @JuliaGillard hey Julia, if had just said ” there won’t be a carbon tax under the gvt.Tony Abbott leads u wouldn’t get picked up for lying

  100. incoherent rambler

    A comment on the repeal from Jo Nova’s site by ‘Matty’.
    I thought I would share it.

    This is bigger then Ben Hur’s ballsack on his Bar Mitzvah! The waves will go all over the world! A stake through the heart …

  101. C.L.

    Bird’s attack on Clive set the standard.

    Perhaps the most legendary assault in Catallaxy’s history.

    And that’s saying something.

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    “This is going to be a short-lived moment for the Abbott government. Because global warming is not going away”, says Christine Milne in Canberra, freezing her tits off.

    I agree. Its not going away. It already went away, 17 years ago.

    People who ignore reality like her should have a white wrap-around suit with large leather straps. And a bed in a mental hospital. Poor woman, the world is just not cooperating with her millenarian religion, like those people who hid in a cave until they were dug out by the authorities.

  103. JC

    IT
    A pure carbon tax without subsidies, no renewball quota or limits on the type of energy production you can build would work as a consumption tax IT. Stop the economic illiterate bullshit.

    Humphreys suggestion sounded good at the time of the height of the gerbil warming scare. Buzz off 🙂

  104. calli

    Oh frabjous day! Nah…too short…let’s have the whole thing…

    “Jabberwocky”

    ‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    “Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Bandersnatch!”

    He took his vorpal sword in hand:
    Long time the manxome foe he sought—
    So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
    And stood awhile in thought.

    And as in uffish thought he stood,
    The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
    Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
    And burbled as it came!

    One, two! One, two! and through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back.

    “And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
    Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
    He chortled in his joy.

    ‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    Just watch out for Tubbsie’s snapping jaws, Tony…don’t turn your back for a second!

  105. Infidel Tiger

    Time to kill direct action now.

    Just apologise JC. We are a forgiving bunch.

  106. Grigory M

    Journalists being rude to Barnaby on 24.

    Heh – Phabulous Phil Coorey asked a question quoting “Terry Taxpayer”. What a fuckwit.

  107. JC

    Bird’s attack on Clive set the standard.

    Perhaps the most legendary assault in Catallaxy’s history.

    And that’s saying something.

    Is that the one where birdie sent Hamilton an email, Hamilton then wrote about it in Crikey and then birdie was went into the Crikey comments section and began to abuse him…. Calling him a gleaming cue ball?

  108. JC

    Yea, that was perhaps one of the most magnificent attacks I’ve ever witnessed.

  109. oldsalt

    Fisky did you mean Gary Gray?

  110. Pete of Perth

    It’s all very well for those two independents to claim credit for the repeal but NOTHING would have happened without the calm and rational leadership of Tony Abbott and his Liberal/National colleagues vast right-wing conspiracy funded by the Rinehart cheer squad of the IPA and sundry other disgusting bloated carbon capitalists.
    and Murdock666

  111. Infidel Tiger

    Journalists angry.

    Me happy.

    Abbott talking absolute crap. He really is a disappointment.

  112. incoherent rambler

    Atmospheric composition Nitrogen 78%, Oxygen 21%, Argon 0.9%, CO2 0.04%
    Q. Outside of the lab, in the real atmosphere, what impact does that 0.04% actually have on temperature?
    A1. Terrestrial temperature – zip nadda, nothing we have managed to measure.
    A2. Political temperature – wow!

  113. James of the Glen

    As Gab said,
    “Just imagine how industries would flock back to this country if electricity was so much cheaper without the green sword of Damocles hanging over our heads”.

    What a day; welcomed back a relative who has been hard at work in the UK doing her best to change policy there (and turf the likes of Yeo), and now this news.

    Following Gab’s clear thinking, we may yet avoid Spain’s fate. Next, to dismantle the parasitic and treacherous wind companies with their pipelines directly out of Treasury..

  114. Carpe Jugulum

    Wow the doomsayers over at the dumb really have their panties in a wad.

  115. JC

    Just apologise JC. We are a forgiving bunch.

    Not a fucking chance.

  116. harrys on the boat

    Just think how many public servants will get the arse because of this. A few thousand surely.

    And JC was your mouth out. NO fucking carbon tax in any shape or form.

  117. Aristogeiton

    JC
    #1384944, posted on July 17, 2014 at 12:57 pm
    Yea, that was perhaps one of the most magnificent attacks I’ve ever witnessed.

    Have a link?

  118. JC

    Fisky did you mean Gary Gray?

    No he means greys… Another leftwing idiot zombie who ended with mental issues by coming here at the Cat.

    They never leave sane.

  119. nerblnob

    I’ll believe that power prices have come down when I see it.

    Meanwhile, well done Australia. The Facebookers and Twitty types will go nuts for a while until they discover some new outrage.

  120. JC

    Ari

    I’m on my Ipad so it’s hard to find links.

    Google Clive Hamilton Crikey… It was a piece about receiving abusive emails and he mentioned birdie by name.

    Birdie was magnificent. He was the original honey badger when it came to cue ball.

  121. Tim Quilty

    “Wasn’t the libertarian brethren at Catallaxy demanding a carbon tax back in 2007/2008?”

    I think back in 2006 or so John Humphries (pbuh) came out with an academic paper suggesting we replace income taxes with a carbon tax. Which had the advantage of gradually turning off the flow of tax revenue as power production shifted to less carbon intensive sources. Starve the beast and all that. But it was pretty much just a thought experiment. It has never been LDP policy, for example.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just think how many public servants will get the arse because of this. A few thousand surely.

    Yes please. And half of CSIRO.

  123. notafan

    I have drunken deep of joy
    And I will taste no other wine to-night

    What sweeter taste than the wine of greenie tears?

  124. Gab

    we may yet avoid Spain’s fate

    Not until the RET is gone, Direct Action is gone and all taxpayer subsidies to the green shyster industry are gone, James and income and company taxes are lowered after government spending has been reduced. We have a long way to go yet.

  125. Viva

    Labor’s recklessness with money would never have kept them out of power in the future. But their climate tax obsession will. Be thankful that religious dogma is much harder to ditch than spending.

  126. incoherent rambler

    Waiting for an email from Tony celebrating the Carbon Tax repeal.
    I have a $1 bet going that he will apologize for repealing the tax.

  127. Peter from SA

    Happy day indeed … possibly only because the PUPs and Muir didn’t want to sit in the Senate on the weekend … but that factor makes it just a little bit sweeter.

  128. thefrollickingmole

    Lets not forget there is still a shit-tonne of money rolling in the carpetbaggers direction.

    Libs are paying their enemies to run departments, what could possibly go wrong?

    Heres some of how they can white ant..

    Businesses can pre-register and begin their projects
    Consultation has identified potential projects across a wide range of sectors. Understandably,
    many proponents want to begin preparation for projects as soon as possible. That’s why from 1
    July 2014 under the Carbon Farming Initiative Amendment Bill 2014 proponents have been able
    to notify the Clean Energy Regulator that they intend to commence a new project.

    Quick register now so we can claim that there will be “x” amount of projects stopped if we are defunded.. Dont worry about the full formal paperwork later on, just chuck in an ambit claim..

  129. Alfonso

    Abbott better keep his eyes on the skyline.
    He’s just made an enemy of the US mega banks who see any first world rejection of an eventual ETS as a brazen attack on their potential future, massive and permanent profits from CO2 derivatives.
    Any hard heads left in Libland would do well to watch donations from those sources to Labor.

  130. A Lurker

    My Leftist friends are all bemoaning the fact that the planet is now doomed.

    However our household is quietly celebrating.

  131. JC

    Tim

    Humphreys carbon tax idea actually wasn’t bad. He linked it to global temp rises, remove all subsidies and crap like that. You could also build any power source you wanted.

    Listen, if they removed they the subsidies/ 2020 renewball quotas, allowed nuke power, didn’t prevent the build of coal plants, I’d still support Humphreys idea.

    His carbon tax idea would also start at a very small base and would rise or fall with global temps and move towards replacing income taxes.

    It would certainly be better than the crap we have now even with the repeal because we have the 2020 renewball bogie.

    The tax would essentially act as a consumption tax.

  132. Pickles

    I am a poor historian, but I remember the dark days when Lord Wentworth was the Opposition Leader and was keen to have some sort of tax to save the planet. Some bush hick Senator went on the stump in little halls all over the country, calling Shenanigans on the whole caper.

    At the Pineapple Hotel he launched a book called Heaven and Earth written by some know nothing called Ian Plimer. The hick Senator even won over Habib that night.

    By and by, Lord Wenty got the arse and Abbott got the job. The hick continued to rant and rail about AGW and the Carbon Dioxide Tax and wore ridicule and derision from the filth (and he loved it).

    Great work Barney.

  133. Peter from SA

    Mark Butler rabbiting on about how an ETS is more popular than “even direct action”. This really is a deranged religion that has captured these people.

  134. notafan

    Happy day indeed … possibly only because the PUPs and Muir didn’t want to sit in the Senate on the weekend … but that factor makes it just a little bit sweeter.

    Maybe that is how the government should get their legislation through, make sure they vote the right way or lose their weekends.
    That is on the money for how principled they are.

  135. C.L.

    Is that the one where birdie sent Hamilton an email, Hamilton then wrote about it in Crikey and then birdie was went into the Crikey comments section and began to abuse him…. Calling him a gleaming cue ball?

    He also called him a liar and a c—t and advised him to commit suicide.

  136. Tom

    I don’t watch ABC News24, but I’ve just flipped over to see what they are doing. After the 100% hostile Abbott presser, it’s been a selection of Liars and Greenfilth talking heads in the Senate, Tits Shorten’s presser (no questions broadcast), then 10 minutes of Liars talking head Butler hating on Abbott666.

  137. JC

    He also called him a liar and a c—t and advised him to commit suicide.

    Oh yea, he suggested he ought to hang himself in the ladies toilets with a neck tie.

  138. Pete of Perth

    Thanks to the first blog I frequented with regards to the agw bullcrap monster : Grant’s blog

  139. George Brandis thanks for NOTHING

    Fantastic news.

    The phrase ‘Rats of Tobruk’, originally used by Lord Haw-Haw as an insult, was soon adopted by its recipients as a badge of pride.

    In the same way, I hope that the magnificent 39, plus all of those on Milne’s hit list, plus everyone else worthy of the badge, wear the phrase ‘Climate Criminal’ with pride.

    I certainly will. Never for a minute have I believed the barrel of bullshit that is the hypothesis of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. I am alarmed that so many intelligent people, including friends of mine, could have fallen for it. So, I am immensely pleased that the rank idiocy that is the carbon dioxide tax has been repealed.

    Well done all. A victory for common sense in the face of enviro-fascism and propaganda.

  140. Stephan

    Quick question. Wasn’t the libertarian brethren at Catallaxy demanding a carbon tax back in 2007/2008?

    JC, can you confirm this and also confirm you were in the affirmative on this position?

    Yeah, it seems like the Right here in Aus were somewhat in touch with reality before Heartland, Tea Party et. al. cranked up the denial astroturf machine Stateside and Nick Minchin brought the message back here to the LNP Right. What a godsend it must’ve been to them. “Hey guys, turns out we don’t need to play by these rules at all! Just deny the whole thing, that’s what they’re doing in the U.S.!”

    Which makes me wonder what happened to the libertarians who did agree with mainstream science on this issue, are they still around? Did social pressure quietly change their minds and shut them up until the cognitive dissonance passed? Or did they get sick of feeling like everyone else (or they themselves) had suddenly started taking crazy pills and leave? Interesting.

    Either way, the carbon tax repeal is but a symbolic victory. Enjoy looking for the avowed resulting savings, might need some high-powered optics to find them though.

  141. incoherent rambler

    Milne – “Many people around Australia will be distraught today, as we are.”

    Good.

  142. Peter from SA

    Even Milne can’t say that next summer will be hotter, instead next summer will have “more intense extreme weather events”. Hey Christine why not more of those events right now? They are exposing their own loopiness. Hitler’s bunker time.

  143. entropy

    Just think how many public servants will get the arse because of this. A few thousand surely.

    Yes please. And half of CSIRO.

    that’s not how organisations manage staff cut backs. You just know that CSIRO management will instead target areas the government cares about.

  144. Shelley

    The LNP need to get on to all the other wasteful green schemes and levies, across both Federal and State legislation. I had the misfortune of working as a temp in a State environment department – the electorate would not believe what goes on – what levies/taxes raised are used for (often public servants pushing their own agendas), reports that are never read or referred to again, but that cost shedloads of money. Many, many public servants, consultants and hangers on have made a lot of money from this man made global warming scam.

  145. Aristogeiton

    Christ almighty, I miss the old trolls.

  146. Infidel Tiger

    Clive Hamilton: As an author I am targeted too. A couple of months ago I opened my email to read this from someone calling himself “Graeme Bird”:

    “Let’s have that evidence then you Stalinist c**t. Either come up with the evidence or admit publicly that you are a fraud and kill yourself. What a complete c**t you are.”

  147. Christ almighty, I miss the old trolls.

    I do too. I’d love to hear SfB on this.

    Oh, hang on, I could do. I could visit his blog.

    But that would be time off my lunch break. And I have home-made soup today.

  148. Andrew

    Milne: Australia is the first government in the world to reverse action on climate change.

    Much as I wish that was true, NZ Canadia UK Japan…

  149. Bear Necessities

    Happy day indeed … possibly only because the PUPs and Muir didn’t want to sit in the Senate on the weekend … but that factor makes it just a little bit sweeter.

    Maybe that is how the government should get their legislation through, make sure they vote the right way or lose their weekends.
    That is on the money for how principled they are.

    Instead of working on Palmer, the LNP should be working on Lazarus and co. Based on how Palmer has treated past acquaintences, it won’t be long before they have had enough of him as well. Hopefully Palmer’s power of them will become less as times goes on.

  150. cohenite

    Good. More please. RET.

  151. Aristogeiton

    Philippa Martyr
    #1385009, posted on July 17, 2014 at 1:30 pm
    […]
    But that would be time off my lunch break.

    Not if you just read the comments 🙂

  152. candy

    Either way, the carbon tax repeal is but a symbolic victory. Enjoy looking for the avowed resulting savings, might need some high-powered optics to find them though.

    Stephan,
    The Brisbane City Council has promised a portion of rates will be returned when the carbon tax is repealed, so there’s that, so we hope for the best from energy companies also etc.

  153. MemoryVault

    TA said he would stop the boats.
    TA said he would get rid of the carbon tax.
    TA said he would never raise taxes.
    TA said he would cut govt expenditure.
    2/3 aint bad.

    2/4 is a pass – just.
    For now.

  154. JC

    Stephanie

    Humphreys carbon tax thingi looks nothing like the monster that was just repealed. Humphreys was essentially advocating a move to a consumption tax and removing and subsidies and quotas. His version would start at a low base and see a commensurate drop in income taxes.

    It’s nothing like we had.

  155. incoherent rambler

    Any prizes for guessing the hot topic on the upcoming Q&A?

  156. manalive

    The success of the carbon [CO2] tax as an anti-pollution measure meme can be seen when an otherwise discerning commentator can write:”… The greatest carbon emitter is China, responsible for nearly a quarter of global emissions. Soon it will be the greatest historical emitter. Its cumulative emissions will be greater than any other nation’s. It runs a few meaningless local emissions trading schemes while opening new coal-fired power stations without even nominating a year, however distant, when its emissions will peak.
    However, China will eventually take serious action for its own ­internal reasons to reduce its own pollution …” Greg Sheridan The Australian today.
    I don’t think it (CO2tax/ETS) is dead, just stunned.

  157. Baldrick

    In other good climate news …

    Ricky Muir, PUP and LDP voted with the Coalition to take $715m from Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) over next three years.

  158. H B Bear

    The Fat Fuk could actually make himself useful and block Abbott’s direct action waste.

  159. JohnA

    hammy #1384798, posted on July 17, 2014 at 11:51 am

    I’m thoroughly ashamed and disgusted to be an Australian today. We have effectively abdicated from our responsibility to the planet and to all future generations. The criminals in the Senate must one day be brought to justice.

    And IR and anyone else of the same view: there is always the Janis Joplin option.

  160. ChrisPer

    Calloo, callay, o frabjous day!

    Didn’t need to use the lamp-posts – yet.

  161. Let us reflect on the fact that we have a political system where bad ideas have to be tested before their idiocy is recognised. Reason is not the foundation for this system; before or aft. Its an extortion racket masquerading as democracy.

  162. incoherent rambler

    Excuse me JohnA.

  163. incoherent rambler

    In other good climate news …

    Ricky Muir, PUP and LDP voted with the Coalition to take $715m from Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) over next three years.

    Twist that knife! (or is it a stake in the heart)

  164. manalive

    “Ironically, a tax is the theoretically correct market-based economic solution to a long-lived stock pollutant such as carbon dioxide”

    Professor please, CO2 is not a pollutant, it is an odourless colourless gas that has always formed part of the atmosphere, for most of the planet’s history at far higher concentrations than now.
    In fact it is closer to the truth to say the Earth is now CO2 starved.

  165. Stephan

    Stephanie

    Humphreys carbon tax thingi looks nothing like the monster that was just repealed. Humphreys was essentially advocating a move to a consumption tax and removing and subsidies and quotas. His version would start at a low base and see a commensurate drop in income taxes.

    It’s nothing like we had.

    I’d be happy to have a revenue-neutral carbon tax, many economists seem to recommend that option. Keep in mind though that it was revenue neutral to the bottom income half of taxpayers

    Stephan,
    The Brisbane City Council has promised a portion of rates will be returned when the carbon tax is repealed, so there’s that, so we hope for the best from energy companies also etc.

    That’s something I suppose. In regards to power prices though, the outrage over a ~9% increase has been quite substantial comapred to the >50% increase from transmission gold-plating, resulting from dodgy modelling, outright corruption between state governments and network companies (one and the same in some states), and relative subsidies for egregious over-users of air conditioning.

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m going to add to Beer’s earlier comment, because I looked up Milne’s parting shot and found it was even better than I thought:

    “Global warming is not going away, it’s accelerating,” Senator Milne said, vowing to work on new climate action legislation and bring it to parliament.

    Accelerating???? That would be a new definition of acceleration, then, meaning “stopped completely”.

    She is really and impressively in unicorn heaven. The real world seems not to impinge at all on her fluffy pink worldview.

  167. Aristogeiton

    Stephanie, how does one head hold so many Labor talking points?

  168. Stephan

    Stephanie, how does one head hold so many Labor talking points?

    Only “it was revenue neutral to the bottom income half of taxpayers” was a Labor talking point really. Also true though.

  169. incoherent rambler

    Stephanie, how does one headclipboard hold so many Labor talking points?

  170. .

    michaelfstanley
    #1384829, posted on July 17, 2014 at 12:04 pm
    I hope the Liberal Party works hard to ensure the Direct Action policies it promised the Australian people are delivered – could the Australian people take any more broken promises in this area?

    Let’s hope they forget, ala Day and Leyonhjelm holding them to ransom, along with the new LNP Senator cum libertarian punks.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    Stephan – There is no Tea Party or Heartland in Oz. The carbon tax as repealed because catastrophic global warming does not exist (until the Sun turns into a red giant).

    Simple science. But science trumps ideology at all times. Get yourself a different barrow to push, this one won’t be rewarding for your political aims.

  172. JC

    Stephanie

    You don’t seem to get it. Humphreys was advocating the removal of all green subsidies , direct handouts and everything would be left to the market to determine. There would be no renewball quota nor direct action.

    Most people here would probably live with that provided it was the Humphreys plan. Some die bards wouldn’t of course.

  173. thefrollickingmole

    Any prizes for guessing the hot topic on the upcoming Q&A?

    Gay marriage?
    Refugees?
    Why Tony Abbot 666 is a bad man because he made my geraniums wilt?

  174. JohnA

    Apologies to IR, I misread his post, and I am not sure it’s really the Joplin voice…but it does express one of those important liberties which we are supposed to enjoy. 🙂

  175. Aristogeiton

    Oops. Can’t post that. Doesn’t even go into moderation, just disappears. Anyhow, the thrust of it is that Graeme Bird is an asshole, from the reading I’ve done in the last few minutes. Can’t post the link to demonstrate.

  176. H B Bear

    Jeez Snic only 150 odd comments over on Teh Dumb. Gotta wave that IPA banner around a bit more. Anything less than 600 is a fail.

  177. .

    Stephan

    You run from the evidence all of the time.

    There is so much fabricated data, results etc from the warmenist side.

    When will you stop running from the evidence?

  178. twostix

    In regards to power prices though, the outrage over a ~9% increase has been quite substantial comapred to the >50% increase from transmission gold-plating, resulting from dodgy modelling, outright corruption between state governments and network companies (one and the same in some states), and relative subsidies for egregious over-users of air conditioning.

    Your 2007 era whines have all the resonance of a wooden gong today Stephan.

    We win. It’s over. The cool kids are all on about fracking now.

  179. Stephan

    Stephan – There is no Tea Party or Heartland in Oz. The carbon tax as repealed because catastrophic global warming does not exist (until the Sun turns into a red giant).

    That’s why Nick Minchin and the IPA have proved so useful, as middlemen (and cash conduits, no doubt) in bringing the astroturfed message back here.

    Simple science. But science trumps ideology at all times. Get yourself a different barrow to push, this one won’t be rewarding for your political aims.

    I have no political aims here beyond wanting to curtail C02 emissions. As I said, I’d have been quite happy with a revenue-neutral option. No need for massive redistributions.

  180. Bill

    600PM Greenwich Milne Time – beautiful

  181. JohnA

    Infidel Tiger #1384867, posted on July 17, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    Quick question. Wasn’t the libertarian brethren at Catallaxy demanding a carbon tax back in 2007/2008?

    Quick answer:
    NOT THIS LITTLE BLACK DUCK!

  182. I have no political aims here beyond wanting to curtail C02 emissions.

    Then stop talking, you little ingrate.

    The repeal of this tax will help free up our economy, so that you might be able to get an actual job one day.

  183. JC

    I actually think there are two ways to go, if one wants to do away with carbon dioxide emissions.

    One way would be the Humphreys suggestion. The other would be for the government to say that by 2060 there can be no energy production through coal fired plants. 50 years would be a long enough time scale to make the changes and by that time thorium reactors would be coming on stream along with scaling.

    The problem with taxing the short term is that it would be very difficult to make a large scale energy conversion. Humanity hasn’t done so that often and you require very long lead times.

  184. Stephan

    Your 2007 era whines have all the resonance of a wooden gong today Stephan.

    We win. It’s over. The cool kids are all on about fracking now.

    So you’re happy with your power bills going up more than 50% over the past 5 years for no good reason?

    Huh. Thought libertarians were all good with money and stuff. Turns out politics trumps even that.

  185. Aristogeiton

    Stephan
    #1385034, posted on July 17, 2014 at 1:47 pm
    […]
    That’s something I suppose. In regards to power prices though, the outrage over a ~9% increase has been quite substantial comapred to the >50% increase from transmission gold-plating, resulting from dodgy modelling, outright corruption between state governments and network companies (one and the same in some states), and relative subsidies for egregious over-users of air conditioning.

    Shorter Stephanie: “I know Labor are stealing 9 dollars out of every hundred, but that’s nothing compared to the 50 dollars out of a hundred they already stole by mandating peak demand”.

  186. James of the Glen

    Oh dear, Steph even managed to trot out “cognitive dissonance”; my, hasn’t his vocab gone ahead in leaps and bounds. Next, we’ll have “neo-con”, that’s a rite of passage in Labor posting.

  187. H B Bear

    Looking forward to The Green-Left Radio Hour (Lunchtime edition) formerly known as The World Today today.

  188. So you’re happy with your power bills going up more than 50% over the past 5 years for no good reason?

    Aw, gee. Stephan thinks ABC National provides impartial briefing backgrounders.

    There’s been colossal waste in this industry, partly caused by the need to subsidise the utterly floundering ‘renewables’ movement, which would sink with all hands if it weren’t propped up artificially with millions of dollars.

  189. .

    That’s why Nick Minchin and the IPA have proved so useful, as middlemen (and cash conduits, no doubt) in bringing the astroturfed message back here.

    You’re a such a fucking space cadet. The only astroturfing is the fraudulent data and evidence being pumped out by Mann et. al., – Holocene, hockey stick, temperature adjustments, internal censorship of journals…

    When will you stop running from the evidence, Stephan?

  190. incoherent rambler

    The leftosphere blogs are going apesh1t (not a reference to a footballer).

  191. Infidel Tiger

    I actually think there are two ways to go, if one wants to do away with carbon dioxide emissions.

    You have started with an idiotic end point.

    Stop beclowing yourself. Go trade some stocks or iron your jeans.

  192. Bruce of Newcastle

    I have no political aims here beyond wanting to curtail C02 emissions.

    CO2 has very little effect other than to increase biosphere productivity. Greenhouses typically run at 1500 ppmV CO2. It does little warming.

    So why do you have a political aim to curtail CO2 emissions? Science shows that is an erroneous aim. You are not religious by any chance are you?

  193. incoherent rambler

    if one wants to do away with carbon dioxide emissions.

    FFS. Why?

  194. Aristogeiton

    I admire JC’s courage to stubbornly prosecute an argument he lost seven years ago.

  195. .

    What will happen to poor little Anna Rose and the Australian Youth Climate COALition?

  196. Tom

    I have no political aims here beyond wanting to curtail C02 emissions.

    Bullshit. You’re just another two-bob fucktard zombie troll and you’re loving the attention.

  197. Stephan

    One way would be the Humphreys suggestion. The other would be for the government to say that by 2060 there can be no energy production through coal fired plants. 50 years would be a long enough time scale to make the changes and by that time thorium reactors would be coming on stream along with scaling.

    Yeah, I think that’s a worthwhile suggestion, India plans to get 30% of their energy needs via thorium by 2050 which is pretty cool, though they do have most of the world’s concentrated reserves.

    The problem with taxing the short term is that it would be very difficult to make a large scale energy conversion. Humanity hasn’t done so that often and you require very long lead times.

    True, but it does provide an incentive to find efficiency savings and promote research that wouldn’t otherwise have been there (discounting of uncertain future costs). I think it’s a balancing act between a decent incentive for change and not doing too much economic harm, and I think the carbon tax/RET achieved that well enough. Oh well, at least the RET remains (although that’s a less efficient mechanism).

    Then stop talking, you little ingrate.

    The repeal of this tax will help free up our economy, so that you might be able to get an actual job one day.

    LOL. Now who’s spouting mindless talking points. By how much did the carbon tax increase the unemployment rate again?

  198. Tator

    Have just had a look at the piece over on the Drum, and there are lefty heads exploding everywhere, well done Sinkers, might even drop a hand grenade myself over there to see a little more action.

  199. notafan

    curtail C02 emissions

    Must. Stop. Breathing.

  200. Bruce of Newcastle

    So you’re happy with your power bills going up more than 50% over the past 5 years for no good reason?

    No. I don’t think I’m happy with my power bills going up 50% in the last 5 years. In fact I’d like to repeal RET and the CEFC and several green quangos who together are responsible for my power bill going up 50% in the last 5 years. I think I’d be very happy for the people responsible for those organisations all to go to gaol for ten years for fraud also. And ten years more for treason.

    So, Stephan, are you defending RET, the most costly and stupid of all the green initiatives that the CAGW lobby has forced on us? Be warned if you answer yes you will need a (banned) asbestos impregnated fire-suit because, mate, the flaming will be epic, applied with peer reviewed science papers and outrage in equal proportion. Hypocrites deserve the roasting we give them here.

  201. .

    LOL LOL LOL

    http://annarose.net.au/books/

    Books
    Madlands: A Journey to Change the Mind of a Climate Sceptic (MUP, 2012)

    An idealistic twenty-something environmentalist.
    A retired right-wing Finance Minister.
    All their lives, they’ve happily ignored each other.
    Until Now.

    Anna Rose, environmental crusader since the age of fourteen and co-founder of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition, is on a mission. This is the story of her biggest challenge yet: a whirlwind journey around the world with conservative powerbroker and arch climate sceptic Nick Minchin.

    From a remote Hawaiian volcano to a cosmic ray laboratory in Geneva, Anna rolls out the biggest names in science to try to change Nick’s mind. It’s a journey to tell the story of what’s happening to our climate – not just for Nick, but for a nation divided on the biggest issue of our times.

    As Nick and Anna challenge each other’s views, they provoke one another to confront closely held assumptions and question our responsibilities as citizens alive in uncertain times. Madlands is a story told with wit and wisdom. The journey offers a unique, entertaining insight into the science and personalities behind the climate change headlines.

  202. Dr Faustus

    It will be interesting to see how the PUP position changes from here on. If it intends to roll forward denying the Government’s programs in conjunction with the ALP and the Forces of Shite, Skywhale has just about passed peak influence.

    My pick is for Palmer to gradually roll out more things to support the Government on. Otherwise he is just another face the mob trying to bring Abbott down – and likely to become much more interesting to the ABC/Fairfax in the role of corporate-criminal-owner-of-a-clown-circus.

  203. .

    Stephan

    When will you look at the evidence and accept the evidence for damaging climate change is fabricated by criminals?

    You keep on running from the evidence.

    This cannot be good for your conscience or self esteem.

  204. twostix

    So you’re happy with your power bills going up more than 50% over the past 5 years for no good reason?

    You’re like the loser kid who 4 years after all the other kids get bored with a new band comes to school with their CD talking about how awesome this new band you heard is.

    If you want to be cool at uni you must realise that its all about fracking now. “Climate Change” is what old people care about. Look I’m just trying to help you have a fun uni experience here.

    But if it makes you feel better, with this victory behind us feel assured that the RET, bans on new coal fired power plants and other revolting green subsidies that are driving prices sky high for no reason will soon follow.

  205. Ms Dolittle

    Bernard Keane “It’s an attack, primarily, of old white men, men in complete denial about climate change, on the future and on the young.”

    Hehe, all you old white guys are in soooooo much trouble.

  206. Driftforge

    Any news on what is happening with Direct Action?

  207. Stephan

    Shorter Stephanie: “I know Labor are stealing 9 dollars out of every hundred, but that’s nothing compared to the 50 dollars out of a hundred they already stole by mandating peak demand”.

    I’m commenting on the outrage over 9% (for a putative benefit) vs meek acceptanne of 50% (for nothing).

    Aw, gee. Stephan thinks ABC National provides impartial briefing backgrounders.

    Yep, shoot the messenger. Government media! Halp!

    There’s been colossal waste in this industry, partly caused by the need to subsidise the utterly floundering ‘renewables’ movement, which would sink with all hands if it weren’t propped up artificially with millions of dollars.

    Yep. Missed the >50% price rise which has nothing to do with that though.

  208. Arnost

    TA said he would stop the boats.
    TA said he would get rid of the carbon tax.
    TA said he would never raise taxes.
    TA said he would cut govt expenditure.
    2/3 aint bad.

    2/4 is a pass – just.

    Nah… The way I see it (and probably the way most of those responsible for the slump in the polls see it) is: Boats 10/10; Carbonic Tax 6/10; Increased Tax 0/10; Spending cuts 0/10…

    Not a good score so far.

  209. nic

    There’s no correllation between Co2 output and temperature rising. The world has not heated for the past 17 years. End of story.

  210. .

    Remember these useless, politically connected spivs, wideboys, shills and hucksters?

    http://www.igcc.org.au/

    MEDIA RELEASE

    Thursday 17th July 2014

    Loss of carbon price a blow to the Australian economy

    Today’s repeal of the carbon price is a blow to Australia’s investment environment and the country’s economic prospects, said the Investor Group on Climate Change.

    The repeal introduces a new phase of uncertainty for investors, with no central emissions reduction framework in place. The policy vacuum created by the carbon price repeal cannot be filled by a government subsidy based abatement scheme as is proposed by the Federal Government.

    “Without a carbon price and a cap on emissions, companies may mis-price emissions risks and invest too much in emissions intensive activities,” said Nathan Fabian, IGCC Chief Executive

  211. Stephan

    I need to look for jobs, I’m out this bitch.

  212. twostix

    Anna Rose, environmental crusader since the age of fourteen

    Anyone who is a “crusader” of political age 14 should be locked up for the good of society.

    No good ever comes from it.

    Witness Paul Howes.

  213. .

    Stephan

    Stop running from the evidence.

  214. Aristogeiton

    Look what you’ve done, JC. You’ve given this Stephanie gal hope of acceptance with your lunatic embrace of “carbon trading”. You know you will just break her heart when you sober up and realise your mistake (again). Next thing you know, she’ll be on the hotline…

  215. Gab

    There’s no correllation between Co2 output and temperature rising. The world has not heated for the past 17 years. End of story.

    And CO2 levels have risen by 10% over that time.

  216. .

    Stephan
    #1385127, posted on July 17, 2014 at 2:20 pm
    I need to look for jobs, I’m out this bitch.

    You are never going to face up to the evidence which blows the climate scare out of the water and outs Mann, Jones et. al., as hucksters and frauds.

    Man up, Princess.

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anna Rose, environmental crusader since the age of fourteen and co-founder of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition, is on a mission.

    Is Anna still an item with green-as-grass Simon of GetUp? Have they bred yet?

    One must know who the master race is before the necessary time as I must prepare my personal ceremonial abasement rituals before they are needed.

  218. twostix

    Bernard Keane “It’s an attack, primarily, of old white men, men in complete denial about climate change, on the future and on the young.”

    Is there anything worse than old men trying to be “hip” to the young idealistic student crowd?

    Young green leftists are going to vote for the state to euthanise you shortly Old Man Keane, give it up.

  219. incoherent rambler

    A small burp from a Krakatoa or Erebus swamps even Chinese CO2 production.
    Modern coal fired electricity plants emit not much more than CO2 and water. Anything else emitted is at natural background levels.
    If it is the city smog that bothers you, then convert those urban wood heaters to cheap electricity and two stroke engines to 4 stroke. Get b-doubles off your cluttered inner city roads and onto freeway/rail.

    Just for the stephans. CO2 is invisible. You do not see CO2 coming from chimneys. What you see on the ABC news is smoke and/or steam.

  220. Ms Dolittle

    I need to look for jobs, I’m out this bitch.

    Axing CT will definitely help employment, even for people like Stephan, and I mean that in a very caring sort of way, possum.

  221. Peter from SA

    Is Anna still an item with green-as-grass Simon of GetUp? Have they bred yet?

    Possibly. this is one of the most disturbing things I’ve read in a while:

    Anna was co-founder and was formerly Co-Director and Chair of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition as well as the former Environment Minister’s joint Young Environmentalist of the Year.

    Anna’s passion for social and environmental justice was sparked at the age of 14, when she set up recycling, composting and a school sport called “environmental campaigning” at her school in Newcastle. She became a climate change campaigner after her grandparent’s farm in North Western NSW was affected by drought, and Anna connected the dots to climate change.

    In 2005, Anna deferred her Arts/Law degree for a year to move to Melbourne and work for the National Union of Students. Working with students across 37 Universities, Anna and other student climate activists won major energy efficiency and clean energy victories. As she saw campus after campus reduce energy and enact ambitious climate change policies, her motto became, “those who say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those already doing it”. At the end of that year, after attending the United Nations Kyoto Protocol negotiations in Montreal, Anna decided to establish the Australian Youth Climate Coalition (AYCC). AYCC is now one of Australia’s largest youth organisations.

    Anna co-authored the book Future by Us (Hardie Grant, 2009), is a former editor of Australia’s largest student paper Honi Soit, and holds a first class honours degree in Arts (Asian Studies) and Law from the University of Sydney. She has spent time studying and working in the United States, including trudging through snow for the Obama campaign in the New Hampshire Primary explaining to Americans that the policies of their Government actually affect other countries.

    Anna was named one of Sydney’s 100 Most Influential People by the Sydney Morning Herald and is a 2011 Churchill Fellow, having completed her research in the United States, UK and China researching innovative climate change policies and youth-driven social movements. She is the former climate campaigner at GetUp and previously worked as a senior strategy consultant at political and communications consultancy Make Believe.

    Anna is most well-known for taking one of Australia’s remaining high-profile climate sceptics, former Finance Minister Nick Minchin, on a journey around the world aiming to help him accept the science of climate change. The documentary, called ‘I Can Change Your Mind on Climate Change’ aired on the ABC in April 2012 followed by a Q&A special with billionaire mining magnate Clive Palmer and other guests.

    Madlands: A Journey To Change The Mind of a Climate Sceptic was written over the 4 weeks of filming the ABC documentary, and the manuscript was finished in two months over the summer of 2011-12. In 2012 Anna completed a four month long book and speaking tour around outer suburban, regional and rural Australia with a team of young people. She now lives on the south side of Canberra with her husband Simon.

  222. notafan

    old white men

    So what are Al Gore and Tim Flannery?
    Chopped liver?

  223. Dan

    TA said he would never raise taxes.

    2/3 aint bad.

    This new tax will cost me about 50 times what the carbon tax would. Based on self interest I should vote for the Greens.

  224. H B Bear

    Is there anything worse than old men trying to be “hip” to the young idealistic student crowd?

    Bernard Keane is a running joke. Crikey personified.

  225. Fisky

    A frightening period in which Australia nearly lost its sovereignty forever is over.

  226. incoherent rambler

    Correction: What you see on the ABC news is smoke and /or steam.mirrors.

  227. Aristogeiton

    Stephanie’s stunted ebonics make her seem really, really cool. I wish I was cool… errr.. up in this bitch. Did I get that right? Stephanie?

  228. Shelley

    Love the look on Keane’s face. To be replicated by many a leftie/green across the twitterverse no doubt. Wonder what pithy t-shirt that other clown, Todd Sampson will come out with?

  229. thefrollickingmole

    StephanIm going to gently introduce you to my own private conspiracy theory..

    The UN wants money, in fact it wants a stream which is not dependent on countries donating their funding.

    Guess who has been the primary driver of the AGW theory devoting huge resources to push public opinion?

    Then finaly guess who proposed themselves as the only legit issuer of carbon credits which they will “coupon clip” for a steady source of income free of those pesky governments and their voters?

    If it was a big business operating with such a clear profit agenda you would be rightly suspicious.

    Oh and as its big government/Un how do you think that is working out for them??

    They quickly figured out that they could earn one carbon credit by eliminating one ton of carbon dioxide, but could earn more than 11,000 credits by simply destroying a ton of an obscure waste gas normally released in the manufacturing of a widely used coolant gas. That is because that byproduct has a huge global warming effect. The credits could be sold on international markets, earning tens of millions of dollars a year.

    That incentive has driven plants in the developing world not only to increase production of the coolant gas but also to keep it high — a huge problem because the coolant itself contributes to global warming and depletes the ozone layer. That coolant gas is being phased out under a global treaty, but the effort has been a struggle.

    So since 2005 the 19 plants receiving the waste gas payments have profited handsomely from an unlikely business: churning out more harmful coolant gas so they can be paid to destroy its waste byproduct. The high output keeps the prices of the coolant gas irresistibly low, discouraging air-conditioning companies from switching to less-damaging alternative gases. That means, critics say, that United Nations subsidies intended to improve the environment are instead creating their own damage.

    The United Nations and the European Union, through new rules and an outright ban, are trying to undo this unintended bonanza. But the lucrative incentive has become so entrenched that efforts to roll it back are proving tricky, even risky.

    China and India, where most of the 19 factories are, have been resisting mightily. The manufacturers have grown accustomed to an income stream that in some years accounted for half their profits.

  230. .

    I can’t wait for that “Project” crew of pseudo intellectuals to suck lemons.

  231. Fisky

    Labor will go to the next election promising zombie carbon taxes and open borders. I wonder what libertarians will say?

  232. Econocrat

    Climate change is just total socialist bullshit. Thank god this bizarre air tax is gone!

  233. Perfidious Albino

    What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women…

  234. rebel with cause

    Congratulations all round. Cheap energy saves lives.

    But let’s not lose our heads – one battle one does not mean the war is over.

  235. Aristogeiton

    Albino, a truly kick-ass movie.

  236. Aristogeiton

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    #1385164, posted on July 17, 2014 at 2:40 pm
    I can’t wait for that “Project” crew of pseudo intellectuals to suck lemons.

    Remember when Dave Hughes was on Q&A? God he made an assclown of him self. What an opinionated know-nothing.

  237. Talleyrand

    Labor said today’s repeal had “made Australia the first country to reverse action on climate change”, while Greens leader Christine Milne said the government’s victory represented “intergenerational theft”.

    But of course huge borrowings from our children’s future via deficits to fund ridiculous ongoing spending in Foreign Aid, NBN, ARENA, and forcing of manufacturing offshore is not intergenerational theft.
    A clearer case of cognitive dissonance by the Greens cannot be found.

  238. Stephanie’s stunted ebonics make her seem really, really cool. I wish I was cool… errr.. up in this bitch. Did I get that right? Stephanie?

    Oh Aristo.

    Even I’m wincing now.

    Poor old Stephan. It’s hard to be on the losing side of history. But I’m sure he’ll get used to it.

  239. H B Bear

    Wonder what pithy t-shirt that other clown, Todd Sampson will come out with?

    Todd has taken his clown act to where it will be appreciated – the Fauxfact’s boardroom.

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