Wednesday Forum: October 8, 2014

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  1. Lysander

    Vote early and often on The Age burqa poll.

    Gee I was surprised by the result! Has The Age gone all right wing on us?

  2. Steve D

    You don’t count, Sinc. 🙂

  3. notafan

    What is it with polls that allow multiple votes from the same person ?

  4. Dianne

    Just wandering around & what do you know – -top 10?

  5. Dianne

    Missed it by that much…

  6. Steve D

    Ricciardo!

    Looks more like Nico to me.

  7. thefrollickingmole

    Ooooh, no troll droppings yet…

    And if I only could,
    I’d make a deal with God,
    And I’d get him to swap our trolls,
    Be scrolling up that road,
    Be scrolling up that hill,
    Be scrolling up that building.
    If I only could, oh…

  8. Token

    4.30 Wed, perfect time for a new forum

  9. Grigory M

    I’d get him to swap our trolls

    mole – there’s only one – and he’s not here. Don’t invite him in.

  10. Motelier

    inside the top twendy.

    WOW….just wow

  11. Steve D

    You know it makes sense.

    In other news, don’t forget to look to the sky tonight.

  12. Token

    Vote early and often on The Age burqa poll.

    Who would vote against the feminazi Freedom Sacks?

    There are many people on the left who deserve to be placed in one with a matching gag.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson

    #1471504, posted on October 8, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    First.

    I demand a peptide test.

  14. Motelier

    In other news, don’t forget to look to the sky tonight.

    “Bad Moon Rising”

    Just for tonight.

  15. Tintarella di Luna

    This is nice and cosy

  16. Toiling Mass

    Has The Age gone all right wing on us?

    Maybe some Ague readers will admit to thoughts in front of their laptop they would never utter near fellow travellers.

    Don’t worry, they will loudly proclaim the virtues of the burqa at the tofu-burger BBQ with their mouth, and hope that no one can see into their hearts.

  17. C.L.

    I’m not sure the defence lawyer for this convicted child sex stalker thought this through:

    Mr Caldicott said his client was the official coach of the Eastern Districts Little Athletics Club, the SA Little Athletics state team and was also a coach at St Peters College, Walford School, Pembroke School and Seymour College.

    Then again, this an Australian judge we’re talking about here.

  18. Fisky

    LDP still pushing fringe ideas on defence –

    Senator Leyonhjelm said he supported all the humanitarian support Australia had provided to the Yazidis refugees and the Kurds.
    But he said the combat role should have had parliamentary approval, subject to two-thirds of both houses.
    “It shouldn’t be an executive decision, it’s too significant a decision to be left to the executive,” he said.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/iraq-mission-will-end-in-frustration-predicts-senator-david-leyonhjelm-20141008-10rsej.html

  19. calli

    Thanks for the tip about the vampire moon, Motelier. I shall keep the garlic and oaken stakes at the ready…

  20. YT

    Still at work and a new fred… Unfair.

  21. thefrollickingmole

    Fisky
    I know its a minority position here, but I dont see a problem with this.

    The UK avoided giving military support to ISIS thanks to a vote.

    MPs have rejected possible UK military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government to deter the use of chemical weapons.

    David Cameron said he would respect the defeat of a government motion by 285-272, ruling out joining US-led strikes.

    The US said it would “continue to consult” with the UK, “one of our closest allies and friends”.

    France said the UK’s vote does not change its resolve on the need to act in Syria.

    They do have the excuse of not knowing how thuggish the “winners” in ISIS have turned out to be. But can you imagine the complication if the UK/allies had been supporting what has turned into reavers from then till now??

  22. Leigh Lowe

    In other news, don’t forget to look to the sky tonight.

    “Bad Moon Rising”

    … and you’ve got to ask what role Tony Abbott played in all that.

  23. Fisky

    The UK avoided giving military support to ISIS thanks to a vote.

    Yes, but all that was required was a bare majority. In practice, Australia has the same thing – if the executive committed to an unpopular war and tested the confidence of parliament, a lost vote on the floor would put an end to it.

  24. thefrollickingmole

    Fisky

    I think a simple majority would suffice for Oz as well, but I do like the idea of dragging pollies by the scruff of the neck and demanding they be on the record as accountable for such significant decisions.
    Yes it means Sarah Freisian-Dugong gets her moniker on TV for 10 minutes emoting everywhere but i think we can live with that.

  25. notafan

    Wassim Doureihi will appear on PM Agenda (Skynews) with David Speers at 5.15pm and again on Lateline (ABC) at 10.30pm inshallah. Both live interviews about the PM Tony Abbott’s comments re Hizb ut-Tahrir and anti-terror laws.

    The MSM continues to give oxygen to the Islamic State apologist terror supporters who openly call for a Caliphate Now!

    Will Sky introduce Wassim Doureihi as someone who says

    He does not believe Muslims can co-exist with Western society. Asked, then, why he chose to stay in Australia, he said: “I was born in this country. I don’t choose where I was born … I consider myself as a Muslim first and foremost

  26. rickw

    The West is compatible with Islam, Muslim’s can live freely, build mosques and worship within The West as they please.

    However,

    Islam is not compatible with The West, Muslim’s will not tolerate The West for one minute past when they think they have the numbers.

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    What a night is in store. Frightbats on the wing, silhouetted against blood red moon.

  28. incoherent rambler

    Is the Islamic calliphate going to keep a few Einsteins, Feymanns and Heisenbergs around for producing the things a society needs like power, sewerage, clean water etc.
    Or is the plan to go back to 1600 ?

  29. Geriatric Mayfly

    Take the plan back to the Seventh Century Rambler. Nothing of note has been contributed by that lot since the Prophet(PBUH) began hearing voices. I see the Muzzies missed out AGAIN on the Nobel Prize for Physics. The Nips pipped them at the post.

  30. Makka

    “Or is the plan to go back to 1600 ?”

    FIFY.

  31. Talleyrand

    And if I only could,
    I’d make a deal with God,
    And I’d get him to swap our trolls,
    Be scrolling up that road,
    Be scrolling up that hill,
    Be scrolling up that building.
    If I only could, oh…

    I feel quite Bushed reading all that.

  32. The latest outrageous outrage is being directed at Courier-Mail for their headline, “The Monster Chef and the She Male”. I thought it was a a funny headline. Bad taste, perhaps, but that’s what makes it funny. The complaint seems to be the “she male” bit – that this wasn’t relevant.

    Someone on Facebook suggested the headline “The Monster Chef and the She Meal,” which would have been even funnier.

  33. Tintarella di Luna

    Or is the plan to go back to 1600 ?

    I think the plan is to go way way back in the swayback machine – to about 700 AD — the left will love it- a combination of reconstructed geography, post-modern science (we’ve had the initial call-outs by Clive Hamilton on that with suspending democracy for climate-changeism, and post-modern animal husbandry – the AC has the footage for all these new disciplines.

  34. pete m

    Lady boys seems an accepted grouping, so why the fuss calling them / him a she male?

    FFS this toilet society needs another flushing.

  35. blogstrop

    Back around 1999 I heard a radio program which was a bit like hypotheticals, hosted by the late Alan Saunders, who really was an adornment to their ABC. His main line was architecture and design, but from time to time he’d stray into all sorts of philosophical areas.

    This particular forum had a most provocative idea.
    What if our scientists had developed a tablet that enabled you to eat anything you like without gaining weight.
    The side effect was that it took away your sex drive/enjoyment.

    He asked his learned panel whether this Faustian bargain was a goer or not.
    It was very amusing, and if anyone (Gab?) can track it down I’d be most grateful.

    But it does also beg the further question: is this likely to be more attractive to females or males?
    Being basically sexist and having lived for long enough to pre-date PC, I’m tempted to say that females might find this deal more attractive than males.
    Discuss.

  36. Lysander

    Strongest storm for 2014 is coming!!!!

    Biggest since Typhoon Haiyan.

    Hang on that was a year ago; what happened to AGW claims of more and more of these?

  37. cohenite

    Islam is not compatible with The West, Muslim’s will not tolerate The West for one minute past when they think they have the numbers.

    Correct; and between the 2005 and 2011 census in Australia our mozzies increased by 70%. Do the maths lads and lassies: how long before our mozzies are a bare majority?

  38. Lady boys seems an accepted grouping, so why the fuss calling them / him a she male?

    Some people are suggesting it’s as bad as using “nigger” to refer to blacks. I kid you not – I’ve read comments to that effect. Others have suggested that it’s not relevant at all. They presumably think the news outlets should have made absolutely no reference to her being transgender.

    If they were merely offended by the CM’s irreverence, I could understand (though I personally have no problem with that either – it’s what they do – and this story is gold for that sort of thing), but this nonsense is something else…

  39. jrm

    Completely apropos of nothing – I’m surprised. On looking for the origin of what feels like a medical aphorism – “one need not strive officiously to keep alive” – I discovered that it doesn’t mean what I and many other think it means. It comes from The Latest Decalogue, a poem by Arthur Hugh Clough (1819-1861).

    Thou shalt have one God only; who
    Would tax himself to worship two?
    God’s image nowhere shalt thou see,
    Save haply in the currency:
    Swear not at all; since for thy curse
    Thine enemy is not the worse:
    At church on Sunday to attend
    Will help to keep the world thy friend:
    Honor thy parents; that is, all
    From whom promotion may befall:
    Thou shalt not kill; but needst not strive
    Officiously to keep alive:
    Adultery it is not fit
    Or safe, for women, to commit:
    Thou shalt not steal; an empty feat,
    When ’tis so lucrative to cheat:
    False witness not to bear be strict;
    And cautious, ere you contradict.
    Thou shalt not covet; but tradition
    Sanctions the keenest competition.

  40. C.L.

    … Muslim’s will not tolerate The West for one minute past when they think they have the numbers.

    This axiomatic.

    “Moderate” Muslims are simply Muslims who don’t have the numbers.

  41. C.L.

    This week’s award for understatement goes to Detective Senior Sergeant Tom Armitt.

    Describing the case of a lunatic chef cooking his Indonesian transgender prostitute boyfriend…

    “At this present time, our investigations are simply around it’s a domestic violence matter that has become out of hand.”

    Yes, you could say that.

  42. Makka

    “Do the maths lads and lassies: how long before our mozzies are a bare majority?”

    You don’t have to wait that long. The UK model of Islamification offers a good observation of how they change your way of life in a meaningful way given the numbers. They started at the local council level and worked from there. Whole boroughs are now run as Islamistans with many accompanying sharia compliant rules and regs.

  43. Snoopy

    What irritates me by this insistence on referring to he as she, is that I suspect the murder will be recorded as resulting from hetero male/female domestic violence rather than homo male/male domestic violence which is what it is.

  44. Tom

    “Do the maths lads and lassies: how long before our mozzies are a bare majority?”

    Sheik Dot Al Arabiya Al Maktoum will be along shortly to explain why you’re a racist for wanting to even discuss the desire to retain traditional Australian culture.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    He, she, transgender, whatever.
    It doesn’t matter.
    What matters is what the stock tastes like when the renderin’ is done
    .

  46. C.L.

    A human being has been killed.

    That’s not funny.

  47. srr

    That butchered and cooked bloke was first prostituted by his parents to put his younger sisters through school.

    Of course his mother forgives the butchering cook for murdering her son; he made them a fortune by mutilating and selling his body, before marrying the butchering cook.

    At least he didn’t go through with the full mutilation and adopting a baby with his butchering husband, before being butchered and cooked by his husband, as he wanted to do.

    So, with all the free will buying, selling and butchering of the living body, was it the killing or cooking that pushed this domestic violence story past, “normal”?

  48. A human being has been killed.

    That’s not funny.

    Cannibalism stories are always a little funny – as long it’s nobody I know.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    Are male prostitutes statistically the profession most likely to murder someone?

    They seem to crop up a lot more than abattoir worker or bus conductor.

  50. Baldrick

    61st Battalion (Queensland Cameron Highlanders)

  51. stackja

    C.L.
    #1471603, posted on October 8, 2014 at 6:37 pm
    A human being has been killed.

    That’s not funny.

    But normal today.

  52. gabrianga

    Even the New York Times has opened both eyes and found their “Leader lacking

    Guess who’s NOT coming to dinner?

  53. stackja

    Google News:

    Is Prime Minister’s anger at ‘hate preachers’ justified?
    The Age – ?12 minutes ago?
    Hizb ut Tahrir has condemned the terrorist group Islamic State and is overtly non-violent – so why is Tony Abbott “angry and frustrated” he hasn’t been able to ban the group, and hopeful new laws will allow him to do so?

    Police warning after Tinder date ends in gang rape in Sydney
    Sydney Morning Herald – ?25 minutes ago?
    Police are warning online daters to be “very careful” following the Sydney gang rape of a tourist who met a stranger through mobile dating app Tinder.

  54. srr

    Point is – there is no slippery slope.
    They took the slippery slope away.
    Flattened it with a big digger.
    Kept digging, and made a cesspit, that at best, some have long been wallowing in, while most simply drown.

  55. Zippy The Younger

    Is the Islamic calliphate going to keep a few Einsteins, Feymanns and Heisenbergs around for producing the things a society needs like power, sewerage, clean water etc.
    Or is the plan to go back to 1600 ?

    We be dhimmis. The muslim elite like their gulfstreams and Bugatti veyrons.

    We are however talking about an end of times scenario devolving into another dark age. Aside from digging up some crap in the ground, which they can barely do by themselves, they produce next to nothing of value besides goats cheese and sweet almond and pistachio cakes.

    Its entirely possible once the hyper-terrorist arrive.

  56. H B Bear

    From gabrianga’s link – In This Election, Obama’s Party Benches Him.

    The Magic Negro really is the black Gillard. Remember when she couldn’t cross the Nullabor while the WA elections were on? And when she could finally come to WA Sneakers McGowan took holidays to avoid being seen with her.

  57. cohenite

    The burqa debate; warning, I experienced lip-turning revulsion when Peter harcher was intoning; I am warming to Jacquie Lambie however.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Describing the case of a lunatic chef cooking his Indonesian transgender prostitute boyfriend…

    “At this present time, our investigations are simply around it’s a domestic violence matter that has become out of hand.”

    I blame Heston Blumenthal.
    This constant one-upmanship to create more and more exotic dishes was always going to end up with a transgender lady-man in the le-crousset casserole pot.
    It was never going to be enough to just cook up an ordinary hetero male.

  59. kae

    Here you are!

    Sinc, you can’t claim first.

    Firstly, it’s not fair.

    Secondly, it’s puerile, people keep telling us that so it must be (except when I’m first).

    Thirdly, it’s not fair.

    And it’s just not right. Or fair.

    Ad MDFD’s father would say, “It’s like a gin’s left tit. It’s not right, and it’s not fair.”

    That’s always cracked me up, probably because it’s so non PC now.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Cannibalism stories are always a little funny – as long it’s nobody I know.

    And as long as I didn’t have roast pork at their house last week.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Are male prostitutes statistically the profession most likely to murder someone?

    Or to be knocked themselves

  62. thefrollickingmole

    So two cannibals are eating a clown. Cannibal one: Does this taste funny to you?

  63. Notafan

    Adele Bailey as well.
    I also remember a British internal revenue officer who cooked his many murder victims though I’m not sure they were male prostitutes though they were all male.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cannibalism stories are always a little funny

    And as long as I didn’t have roast pork at their house last week

    Islamists don’t seem to mind cannibalism, except for the bad press it gives. The really don’t like pork though. Attacking a mosque with bacon is extremely serious.

    Long pig good, short pig bad.

  65. Leigh Lowe

    Yes it means Sarah Freisian-Dugong gets her moniker on TV for 10 minutes emoting everywhere but i think we can live with that.

    What is interesting, mole, is that it used to be that I couldn’t bear to watch the Senator Friesian-Dugong on TV.
    But she was on Sky this morning and I watched it all the way through.
    Morro has absolutely driven her nuts and I don’t want to miss the moment she has a foot-stamping tanty live on air.

  66. Baldrick

    Do Cannibals refer to homeless people as Free Range?

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Adele Bailey as well.

    Adele Bailey.
    It seems every time a she-male gets knocked they want to put a copper in the frame.
    But it invariably goes nowhere.

  68. John Comnenus

    Listening to the great under rated band Died Pretty. ‘Every Brilliant Eye’ is a great album to help forget how stuffed the world is.

  69. egg_

    Vote early and often on The Age burqa poll.

    Who would vote against the feminazi Freedom Sacks?

    There are many people on the left who deserve to be placed in one with a matching gag.

    Yup, who’d vote against a bagged frightbat?
    Just add a twig of garlic?

  70. .

    “Makka
    #1471596, posted on October 8, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    “Do the maths lads and lassies: how long before our mozzies are a bare majority?”

    You don’t have to wait that long. The UK model of Islamification offers a good observation of how they change your way of life in a meaningful way given the numbers. They started at the local council level and worked from there. Whole boroughs are now run as Islamistans with many accompanying sharia compliant rules and regs.”

    Oh you poor victim you.

    Muslims will never be a majority in Australia. The fastest growing religion is Hinduism anyway.

    “Whole boroughs are now run as Islamistans with many accompanying sharia compliant rules and regs”

    Ah yes that isn’t an exaggeration either. FFS.

  71. .

    “Tom
    #1471599, posted on October 8, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    “Do the maths lads and lassies: how long before our mozzies are a bare majority?”

    Sheik Dot Al Arabiya Al Maktoum will be along shortly to explain why you’re a racist for wanting to even discuss the desire to retain traditional Australian culture.”

    No – you’re just paranoid.

    If anyone can genuinely define “Australian culture” they are probably wise beyond measure.

  72. calli

    Describing the case of a lunatic chef cooking his Indonesian transgender prostitute boyfriend…

    Gotta love C.L. Calls a spade a spade…

  73. JC.

    This is fantastic. James Matera tries to ask the repugnant Lois Lerner a few questions and she runs off to a neighbor’s house. The neighbor doesn’t open the door and tells Matera he doesn’t want her in his house.

    http://www.jammiewf.com/2014/awesome-video-jason-mattera-tries-to-interview-lois-lerner-hilarity-ensues/

  74. egg_

    Describing the case of a lunatic chef cooking his Indonesian transgender prostitute boyfriend…

    Survivor meets Master Chef?

  75. .

    “Makka
    #1471462, posted on October 8, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    “On the other hand, educated people here value trades and skilled and unskilled labour. “

    Well, that’s good of them and you but I expect others don’t need you speaking for them. Besides you come across as way too pompous when pointing out the obvious virtues of others, on their behalf. No, I’m referring to your apparent inexperience in real life, maintaining your blind ranting adherence to the dogma of ‘libertarianism’ come what may. Even if that means being a champion of abuse and an apologist for a sick code like Islam , while resorting to lies and verballing when compliance with your fantasy world view is not given. Take the advice , read up on Islam and the Koran. At least understand what you are defending.”

    No champ I never start abusing anyone. I don’t lie. I know what is in the Koran you idiot, I also understand that not every Muslim follows every word of it, as neither does every Jew or Christian follow the Torah word by word.

    Yes, that is precisely the problem – too many Muslims take the Koran literally.

    Unlike you – I have the wits to realise not every Muslim believes in Shar’ia, loves ISIS etc.

    FFS you ignorant, high horse riding twit, rather than “read the Koran” you might want to actually learn what the different sects of Islam believe. Ismailis are FORBIDDEN from political violence and fundamentalism, you thick bloody pillock.

  76. .

    “We are however talking about an end of times scenario devolving into another dark age. Aside from digging up some crap in the ground, which they can barely do by themselves, they produce next to nothing of value besides goats cheese and sweet almond and pistachio cakes.”

    Yeah right. Islam isn’t a race remember. Funny how you linked to a protest by a white supremacist group earlier, isn’t it, zippy?

  77. .

    “dover_beach
    #1471439, posted on October 8, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Yes and I’m sure we could have done that flying at 30,000 feet with a pre computer navigation system and simple iron bombs with a CEP of several hundred metres to a few kilometres?

    Unrealistic nonsense.

    Indeed, the simpler solution was not to bomb Dresden at all given the 500,000 displaced persons in or around the city. And there were plenty of uniformed German soldiers elsewhere.”

    Dresden was a major rail hub.

    So the Germans would have been assisted in moving soldiers around making the allied losses on the battlefield higher.

    The SS would have been able to execute more European Jewry and cover up more of their crimes.

    All because you are holding allies accountable for the reckless indifference of the Nazi regime.

    Even in hindsight you are wrong.

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    Little Ms Muffet
    Sat on a tuffet,
    Eating her Kurds and whey;
    Along came a Hornet,
    Who flew above her
    And frightened Ms Muffet away
    After which she had to launder her burqa and undies

  79. .

    ” dover_beach
    #1471437, posted on October 8, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    What a load of nonsense. It was law. The king made legislation and administrative acts in council. It might have been regulation and not legislation, but it was law. Parlemant was a regional supreme court which approved each law before they were in force. The law was in force for decades before the Parlement rebuked it.

    Let’s check the videotape: In 1723, 1724 and 1774 several administrative acts forbade interracial marriages, mainly in colonies, although it is not clear if these acts were lawful. On 2 May 1746, the Parlement de Paris validated an interracial marriage.”

    Yep. So you’re wrong. Like I said the laws were repudiated later. “Mainly” in colonies doesn’t mean “only” like you asserted before.

  80. kae

    Sorry, Dot. I can’t contain myself.

    Ismailis are FORBIDDEN from political violence and fundamentalism

    Where the fuck did you get that from?

    Mo wanted to control his minions, and all the people he conquered so he created islam. Mo was a paed warlord who wanted to control the world. Looks like his plans are still coming to fruition, 1400 years after he started this political ideology called islam.

  81. .

    kae

    What do you know about Ismailis?

    They have a (really) violent history but have been pacified now.

    This is a good thing.

  82. End of Days in 20 mins:

    NSW/ACT/VIC/TAS: Eclipse begins 8.15pm, total eclipse 9.25pm-10.25pm, eclipse ends 11.35pm.
    QLD: Eclipse begins 7.15pm, total eclipse 8.25pm-9.25pm, eclipse ends 10.35pm.
    SA: Eclipse starts 7.45pm, total eclipse 8.55pm-9.55pm, eclipse ends 11.05pm.
    NT: Eclipse starts 6.45pm, total eclipse 7.55pm-8.55pm, eclipse ends 10.05pm.
    WA: Moon rises at 6.19pm, total eclipse 6.25pm-7.25pm, eclipse ends 8.35pm.

  83. Notafan

    Ismaelis probably number around five million and owe allegiance to the aga khan who has declared himself infallible.
    I don’t know that the believes of a group considered to be heretical by the Sunni majority are really helpful to the discussion on islam
    One can also say that other sects like Druze, Alawite etc represent islam but reality is they don’t.

  84. MsDolittle

    Where is that rascal moon? Is it high or low? If I face north at what o’clock?

  85. Looks ENE atm – fairly low, but not too low at present – and seems to be shifting northward (based on looking out my window 10 minutes ago and again just now). Alas, it just moved behind my neighbour’s bloody tree.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Where is that rascal moon? Is it high or low? If I face north at what o’clock?

    It was just above Mavis McGillucuddy’s chimney about five minutes ago.

  87. MsDolittle

    Thanks Fleeced, exactly where you said I’d find it. Leafy burbs here too.

  88. Bit cloudy too… came out just before 8:15, so I saw start of eclipse – I’ll check again later… It won’t look red until full eclipse (I had to walk out to the street to see it though – earlier on I could have just looked out my window *grumble*

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    A little of why the ismaelis are different from mainstream Sunni islam

    Shi’a Islam, not Sunni. Although I’m only going on the wiki entry, but it seems pretty hefty.

    I’d be happy also if the Sufis and Ahmadiyya had more of a run. The whirling is wonderful. There is a lot of fine stuff in the Islamic pantheon if they can ever get themselves off their addiction to blood and power.

  90. Snoopy

    THE huge rise in employment in August and the spike in the jobless rate a month earlier didn’t actually happen – the Australian Bureau of Statistics intends to revise most of it away.

    THE ABS admitted on Wednesday that there were problems with its July and August employment data.

    The number of Australians with jobs rose by a whopping 121,000 in August, the largest monthly increase since records began in 1978, the ABS reported last month.
    Forecasts had centred on a gain of only 10,000.
    A month earlier the ABS said the unemployment rate jumped to a 12-year high of 6.4 per cent in July, which also surprised economists who were expecting the rate to stay steady at six per cent.
    Doubts were raised about the veracity of the figures at the time they were both released.
    The figures are adjusted to remove the effect of regular seasonal influences on the data.
    But the ABS said there was very little evidence of the usual seasonality in the July and August figures, as well as the September figures, which will be released on Thursday.
    The Bureau of Statistics said it will revise the figures for these months by replacing the reported seasonally adjusted figures with the unadjusted figures.

    So why does the ABS seasonally adjust these figures at all? So someone recently laid off can reassure themselves that they’re not unemployed, merely seasonally adjusted?

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks Fleeced, exactly where you said I’d find it. Leafy burbs here too.

    Hurry up.
    Blowing a gale here.
    It’ll be gone in no time.

  92. cohenite

    Muslims will never be a majority in Australia. The fastest growing religion is Hinduism anyway.

    Proof? Chew on this while you’re scratching your Bendigo Bank shares;

    Muslim population increase
    2001
    281,600 +90.9% from 1991

    2011
    476,291 +69.1% from 2001

  93. MsDolittle

    Where are you Leigh? It’s still as here bro.

  94. Notafan

    Yes shia of course but a small sect with an infallible hereditary leader very unlike mainstream Sunni islam.

  95. MsDolittle

    We need more hardarsed Bhudists.

  96. cohenite

    In the burqa poll, the yes vote has dropped; Getup is obviously busing in mozzies. get over and vote.

  97. slackster

    White House, senior administration officials hold a briefing on the U.S. government’s response to the Ebola epidemic.

    At the end of the briefing not knowing his microphone is switched on, Major Garrett can be heard saying to two other White House officials,

    “We are screwed!”

    He then goes on to say…

    “I am feeling a little fluey, give me kiss.”

    The other official pushes him away jokingly and the female official says…

    “If the DC result shows positive this could go off the grid.”

  98. Tom

    The fastest growing religion is Hinduism anyway.

    It’s now beyond doubt, Dot. You need to go over to Dogshit Today and team up with Shitfer and Homer.

    Victory is so close. The left just needs some more deranged fruitcakes and the Anglos can be kicked out of Australia forever. You’ve earned your stripes at the Cat. Now go forth and multiply!

  99. Leigh Lowe

    Where are you Leigh? It’s still as here bro.

    Un Milbun.
    Cold ez a wetches tut, eh?

  100. Notafan

    Have to admire a guy who tweets war reports hiding in a pepperfield

    Cahit Storm back in his kobane pepperfield.

  101. johanna

    Perfect view of the eclipse here (Canberra) – still, clear, weather, moon is roughly NE.

  102. calli

    Cloudy here, Johanna…and not a frightbat in sight.

  103. Tom

    Cahit Storm back in his kobane pepperfield.

    That’s a great Twitter address to have, Nota. Much appreciated.

  104. Too cloudy here too now… some clear patches, so it might get a view later.

  105. Kaboom

    Getting back to the Monster Chef – the police say that parts of his (actual) wife were being cooked.

    I wonder what parts?

  106. hzhousewife

    Ta Fleeced for the heads-up, moon clear here atm, so pretty, makes me happy
    to see the universe doing its thing.

  107. kae

    Can see it here, west of Brisbane. It’s above the clouds.

    I’ve tried to take some pictures, but I think it’s beyond my IXUS and my photography skilz.

  108. Zippy The Younger

    I’d be happy also if the Sufis and Ahmadiyya had more of a run. The whirling is wonderful. There is a lot of fine stuff in the Islamic pantheon if they can ever get themselves

    If you search on YouTube you will see Ahmadiyas get the shit kicked out of them by Sunnis as kafirs

    Likewise Sufis.

    Anything that diverges from fundamentalism is apostasy. Who is in charge here?

    Welcome to 7C21C islam.

    (Disclaimer, nothing in this post has anything to do with islam)

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    That was pretty cool. Around 8 pm I went out to see if the Moon was visible, and it was, through light cloud. Then just now I went outside again to see how the eclipse was going. Where’s it gone? First I thought it was behind a tree, but then as my eyes acclimatised I saw a faint banana shaped crescent. The cloud is just enough that the full Moon shines through but the eclipsed Moon is nearly invisible. This is fun.

  110. MsDolittle

    Yer too cloudy here too. How often do lunar eclipses come around? Is this my last chance? Pang of mortality… No just saggy after work. A guy came in today and told me he only has his hair cut every six months, in London where his barber is the only one who doesn’t make him look like a tree….um…..OK. It’s not to snork sometimes.

  111. calli

    I’m a wee bit north of you, Bruce…nothing. Very disappointing. 🙁

  112. Gab

    Muslims will never be a majority in Australia.

    They won’t have to be the way politicians, councils, academia, the media, the left (BIRM) appease them at every shrieking whingeing press release delivered by those not representing the majority of muslims here.

  113. How often do lunar eclipses come around?

    Frequently enough that you should get another chance – but they’re not always at a convenient time of night for viewing 🙂

    The cloud is just enough that the full Moon shines through but the eclipsed Moon is nearly invisible. This is fun.

    Same here… hopefully will catch a glimpse when it’s fully eclipsed – when it’s out of direct sunlight it reflects a million Earth sunsets, and looks red.

    I’ve managed to see a few of them… some of them end up looking like not much – but when it works properly, it’s a pretty cool effect 🙂

  114. Chris of Sydney

    One thing I found out tonight. After years of not being able to buy one, the ISOFIX child restraints are finally legal in Australia (). Unfortunately, you can’t buy one overseas to save yourself money.
    This is kind of like my bicycle helmet, an Italian brand, one of the best in the world, but not legal here.

  115. Tom

    You’re an hour early, Gab. It’s a 16-hour day, you know. Stop stealing you employer’s money. Lick the road clean, wench.

  116. Infidel Tiger

    How often do lunar eclipses come around?

    Ask Clive Palmer’s toilet seat.

  117. MsDolittle

    Definitely reddish now. MsDo mark III has been pulled from her bed (knackered after swim squad) and is wondering what aborigines would have made of it.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cloud has now cleared away for me. Just a sliver left. Looks like the highlighted cornea of an eyeball in a medical diagram from the side.

    (Sorry I am a sucker for this sort of thing – see the link I gave this morning on the Iceland volcano 🙂 ).

  119. calli

    Good grief…the brain bleach, Nurse, and make it snappy!

  120. Gab

    I’ve promised myself no work tonight, Tom after giving a huge presentation today 🙂 Mind you, when I got home at 6pm 😯 I decided to clean and tidy the pantry, cooked dinner, made lunch, found out how to get the child her first tax file number, scanned her school transcripts for lodgement with the school she is applying to next year (year 11 and 12), did a bit of grocery shopping, unpacked the dishwasher and now it’s time to relax 🙂 and read the Cat.

  121. Zippy The Younger

    Forbes describes the Aga Khan as one of the world’s ten richest royals with an estimated net worth of US$800 million (2010). Additionally he is unique among the richest royals as he does not rule over a geographic territory.[2] He owns hundreds of racehorses, valuable stud farms, an exclusive yacht club on Sardinia,[21] a private island in the Bahamas,[22] two Bombardier jets, a £100 million high speed yacht named after his prize racehorse,[23] and several estates around the world, with his primary residence being an estate called Aiglemont in the town of Gouvieux, France, north of Paris. In 2008, then French President Nicolas Sarkozy pledged that the Aga Khan, a British citizen, would be let off all ‘direct taxes, stamp duty, and wealth tax’ by the country of France – saving the Aga Khan an amount estimated to be in the billions of Euros

    Hmmm… Maybe I can start my own branch of Islam, the zippyastrians, you all cat dhimmis need to start paying jizaya now!

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Very glad I’d just put wineglass down before seeing Infi’s observation.

  123. Mike of Marion

    No cloud in Adelaide

  124. Leigh Lowe

    Getting back to the Monster Chef – the police say that parts of his (actual) wife were being cooked.

    I wonder what parts?

    I think he was cooking Nasty Goreng.

  125. C.L.

    Checked out the lunar eclipse.

    Got bored.

    Bailed.

  126. MsDolittle

    Bruce of Newcastle
    Very glad I’d just put wineglass down before seeing Infi’s observation.

    I use a sippy cup.

  127. C.L.

    I make the call: the ISIS air war has failed.

  128. stackja

    Liberty Quotes
    When the far Left was a global force, the mainstream liberal Left had to draw dividing lines and defend itself from its attacks. Now that the far Left threatens no one, the borders have gone. The media would hound from public life any conservative who shared platforms with members of a neo-Nazi group. But respectable leftists can now associate with those who would once have been regarded as poisonous extremists — and no one notices.
    — Nick Cohen

    Greens

  129. stackja

    C.L.
    #1471787, posted on October 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm
    I make the call: the ISIS air war has failed.

    Half measures rarely succeed.

  130. .

    I’m all well and good for beating the shit out of medieval religion, even forcing Australian Muslims to take a good hard look at themselves – but when people say ALL Muslims, no matter how moderate, liberal, lapsed or nominal they are ALL believe in taqyyia, Jihad, dhimmitude…then I go tits up.

    That’s all I really object to. The absolutely fatuous assumption every person nominally a Muslim believes in the gun toting, intercine warfare, global domination style Islam.

    When people then start talking crap like “Christian only immigration” and “let’s deport Muslims”, it is time for them to question if they really have anything in common with the blog authors.

  131. slackster

    C.L.

    Is it any surprise when this is the situation:

    Kurds had hoped that US airstrikes in Syria would save them. But as of late Tuesday, airstrikes appeared to be too little too late. Some suspect that’s partly because every target must be vetted by lawyers in Washington

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2014/10/07/save-border-town-from-isis-don-let-turkey-veto-help/fhd40YN5v4Lepk8M8II2kK/story.html

  132. I make the call: the ISIS air war has failed

    Was there ever any doubt?

    And arming the enemy of the enemy – will they just become our new enemy? It seems to be the way with Islam – the best you can hope for is a stable state where they only screw each other.

  133. Gab

    I make the call: the ISIS air war has failed.

    It was doomed before it began. Obama et al are running this “campaign” to appease those on twitter and in the meeja so they aren’t called nasty names, like “war monger”. They don;t give a shit about going in full force on the ground and annihilating those evil murdering Islamic State animals. Some “humanitarian”. Pfft.

    Seeming, not doing, is how the cowering West rolls these days.

  134. Moon should be fully eclipsed now – still can’t see a thing though 🙁

  135. C.L.

    Could our Hornet pilots drop something please?

    Just to avoid embarrassment.

    A nude bomb. Jelly babies. Anything.

  136. Infidel Tiger

    ISIS have won.

    Some suspect that’s partly because every target must be vetted by lawyers in Washington

    Yes, because you wouldn’t want to accidentally kill a non-combatant while some barbarian from ISIS is raping and decapitating whole villages. The Kurds would be furious.

  137. C.L.

    Elephants: what’s not to love?

  138. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Bruce of Newcastle at 9:01 pm:

    “That was pretty cool. Around 8 pm I went out to see if the Moon was visible, and it was, through light cloud. Then just now I went outside again to see how the eclipse was going. Where’s it gone? First I thought it was behind a tree, but then as my eyes acclimatised I saw a faint banana shaped crescent. The cloud is just enough that the full Moon shines through but the eclipsed Moon is nearly invisible. This is fun.”

    I understand that. Being a bit more literal than whatever one categorises the opposite, I understand something expressed so clearly and directly.

    Conversely I was, moments ago, amused by and entertained with this.

    Terrace door opens , person-being walks in and announces “It’s gone.”

    “What’s gone?”

    “It’s gone.”

    “Oh? The bus to Paradise Point? The moon? Yes, that’s it. I’m a genius. Should have been an interpreter.”

    “Yes, it’s gone.”

    “What – tumbled into the Broadwater? I didn’t hear it banging into Marine Parade so I suppose it just splashed gently upon the Coral Sea.” This bit ignored, as if I said nothing.

    “It’s not red.”

    “It’s back?”

    “They said it would be red.”

    “Who said? Which they?” This bit also ignored.

    “Look, come out here and see.” I was trying to avoid that ‘cos I’m busy in New Zealand, catching up on injuries to the All Blacks.

    “See? It’s gone.”

    “I thought it was red.”

    Furriners can be quite strange at times. ‘specially them ones from the wymminses race/culture.

  139. Notafan

    12 Kurds have been killed during protests in Turkey in the last couple of days I think they have learned to live with collateral damage,

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Half measures rarely succeed.

    Depends on what you mean by succeed. News tonight was the RAAF spotted an ISIS technical and were going to attack it, until they skedaddled into a civvie area. So the RAAF guy pulled the plug.

    That is a win. Those ISIS kiddies blood pressure would’ve peaked over 200/120 and their underwear would need changing. Not to be sniffed at.

    Being continually scared that the Great Satan will smite them from above if they do one tiny thing wrong is bloody intimidating. Should be good for another 1000 years of victimology.

  141. Snoopy

    Well, the Kurds are going to get necked, but at least Obama and Abbott are not going to be saddled with the opprobrium that some around here reserve for Air Chief Marshall Arthur Harris.

  142. C.L.

    DRUDGE header banner a classic.

  143. Gab

    DRUDGE header banner a classic.

    That’s nice, dear, but where’s the link or a copy of the headline?

  144. Rabz

    So the moon is orange.

    Just bloody wonderful.

  145. MsDolittle

    “ALL Muslims”. Would you be happier if people said “most”or 69%? Cut it anyway you like – some religions are not as democratic as others. Islam is one of them. Until I see moderate Islam making a name for itself fighting for democracy and taking responsibility for its own multitude of moral shortcoming I won’t be rolling out the welcome mat.

  146. Grigory M

    Lunar eclipse tetrad – this is the second, and best, of four consecutive lunar eclipses in 2014 and 2015. Usually, total eclipse lasts only a few minutes – tonights is one hour.

  147. C.L.

    Nobody is suggesting Obama and Abbott should incinerate Baghdad.

  148. Gab

    I think CL is ignoring me 🙁

  149. .

    “Half measures rarely succeed.”

    C.L. is right.

    What did the old master say:

    “Everything in war is very simple, but the simplest thing is difficult”

    “The enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan.”

    “The conqueror is always a lover of peace; he would prefer to take over our country unopposed.”

    “If the leader is filled with high ambition and if he pursues his aims with audacity and strength of will, he will reach them in spite of all obstacles.”

    “If we read history with an open mind, we cannot fail to conclude that, among all the military virtues, the energetic conduct of war has always contributed most to glory and success.”

    “Boldness governed by superior intellect is the mark of a hero.”

    “[…] to introduce into the philosophy of war itself a principle of moderation would be an absurdity”

    “Where execution is dominant, as it is in the individual events of a war whether great or small, then intellectual factors are reduced to a minimum.”

    “…in war, the advantages and disadvantages of a single action could only be determined by the final balance.”

    To achieve victory we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement. The enemy’s “center of gravity”

    “…the side that feels the lesser urge for peace will naturally get the better bargain.”

    “The backbone of surprise is fusing speed with secrecy.”

    The general who uttered these was Carl von Clausewitz. I believe the way we are fighting ISIS breaches every single one of these pearls.

  150. Tom

    Seeming, not doing is how the cowering West rolls these days.

    What’s important to the left, above all else, is they never abandon their jihad to destroy Western culture — the most successful civilisation in the history of the world.

    Leftism is a debilitating mental illness that emanates from the psychopathology of self-hatred.

  151. hzhousewife

    lovely pinky moon through my binoculars, blahdy cold out though !

  152. C.L.

    Everyone has DRUDGE bookmarked, Gab. 🙂

    I’m referring to the main header pic and headline.

  153. Leigh Lowe

    So the moon is orange.

    Just bloody wonderful.

    The moon is a balloon.

  154. Gab

    Yeah but I can’t click on Drudge as it freezes my laptop every time 🙁

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Moon should be fully eclipsed now – still can’t see a thing though

    Write to the ACCC.
    Someone needs to pay for this.

  156. Write to the ACCC.
    Someone needs to pay for this.

    It’s predatory eclipsing, that is! They can’t do that!

  157. calli

    The moon is a balloon.

    Bring on the empty horses.

  158. JC.

    Wodge Watch

    just look at this little fraud go.

    In my opinion no explanation is required, Ian Plimers competence does not include climate science.

    Put simply -you go to a butcher for your meat, a baker for bread, a mechanic to fix your car. If you are happy having the local hairdresser fix your plumbing problems then go for it.

    He left out..

    You don’t go to a gardener for financial advice.

    (Wodge was a gardener before becoming a financial planner.)

  159. JC.

    Yes, really.

    Author Naomi Wolf has been accused of being ‘disrespectful’ after suggesting footage of hostages being beheaded by ISIS militants isn’t real.

    The 51-year-old American writer made a series of controversial statements questioning the authenticity of the footage in a number of messages on her Facebook page.

    The initial post in which the feminist activist questions where the terror group are ‘getting all these folks from’ was deleted.

    In another post, she also said that the Obama administration was sending troops to West Africa to confront the Ebola outbreak so they could return with the deadly infection – justifying a military takeover of Africa.

    Social media users quickly rounded on her with some suggesting her theories were ‘crazy’ while others said her views were ‘harmful’ and had disrespected the victims’ families.

    A video released on Friday appeared to show British hostage Alan Henning being beheaded by Jihadi John.

  160. Delta A

    We’ve just been sitting outside with daughter and son-in-law and their four exuberant children watching the eclipse. Clear sky, fabulous vista across a sheep paddock, no-one but our noisy party for miles around.

    “Who’s eating the moon?” wailed the three year old as the eclipse progressed.

    “That’s the best moon ever!” exclaimed Ms 8year old when it turned pink.

    “Yeah?” Twelve year old simulates dropping pants and bending over. “How about this for a moon?”

    The five year old fell asleep after the Freddo frogs.

    If I died tonight it would be with a huge smile on my face.

    …oh, but my bad. After explaining all about the umbra to my fascinated audience I later realized that what we were looking at was, in fact, the penumbra. How embarrassment!
    End FB.

  161. C.L.

    IMAGE.

    Headline: PARTY ISOLATES PREZ FOR ELECTION

    x

  162. C.L.

    We’ve just been sitting outside with daughter and son-in-law and their four exuberant children watching the eclipse. Clear sky, fabulous vista across a sheep paddock, no-one but our noisy party for miles around.

    “Who’s eating the moon?” wailed the three year old as the eclipse progressed.

    “That’s the best moon ever!” exclaimed Ms 8year old when it turned pink.

    “Yeah?” Twelve year old simulates dropping pants and bending over. “How about this for a moon?”

    The five year old fell asleep after the Freddo frogs.

    If I died tonight it would be with a huge smile on my face.

    Beautiful.

  163. JC.

    I think Drudge misspelled it. It should be Obola. In fact rather than the Kenyan, I think I’ll start calling him President Obola.

  164. Gab

    lol That was worth the wait, CL. Thank you xx

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dot – I’ve read C’s work and unfortunately he was writing to his times, just after the Napoleonic wars. Assymmetrical warfare didn’t exist then, as enablers like the AK-47 and RPG had not yet been invented. All military scholars have to fight past wars since they cannot know what will be invented and what effect it will have on the battlefield.

    Furthermore psychology is important – again that was not something C knew much about at that time. The ISIS kiddies are cannon fodder. The Romans knew about shooting down cannon fodder. It does have a small material effect, normally, but in a society of polygamy and 72 virgins it has even less now than it had then. But they did know that the real vulnerability was the old guys with stuff. So they would go in and burn everything, then leave. The old guys with stuff (and all the wives the kiddies did not have) worked out after the third or fourth edition of Roman pyromania that pissing off the Romans would not be good for their comfort. So they found all sorts of excuses reasons why the auspices did not favour attacking the Romans this week.

    Israel has replicated this with Hamas and Hesbollah. The recent war with Hamas was because they could not pay their people and were scared they would be knocked off. So they attacked Israel. It worked, since some unnamed backer stumped up enough cash for Hamas to pay salaries and the ceasefire has been holding ever since.

    The old ways work. All that is required is for the ISIS bosses to get a taste of sherbet-and-harem lifestyle and the West will have them by the balls, literally. They will go instantly from fanaticism to senescence.

  166. Motelier

    Regarding the Blood Red Moon Tonight.

    This is what I love about science. It can predict things that happen well in to the future. Astronomers make observations, build a thesis, test the thesis for accuracy and repeatability and publish their results.

    Other astronomers then get an opportunity to revue the thesis.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Peak Oil. Peak water. Ice Age. Ozone Hole. Global Warming. Climate Change (This is a ripper, who would have thought that the climate did not change. I am sure there is a thesis that has been written a few hundred years ago about the history of climate change.)

  167. Leigh Lowe

    The moon is a balloon.

    Bring on the empty horses.

    Touché Ms Niven!

  168. Peter from SA

    Being continually scared that the Great Satan will smite them from above if they do one tiny thing wrong is bloody intimidating. Should be good for another 1000 years of victimology.

    Bruce, that is a nice idea but I doubt they had any clue that a plane was tracking them (well the plane is just the delivery mechanism, any kind of thing could have been tracking it). The biggest thing the air campaign has going for it is all those desert highways in northern Iraq and eastern Syria. You can be anywhere in a few hours. I reckon the target must have been close to civilian infrastructure already, and quite probably ISIS have worked this out or are in the process of doing so. Stay in cities or close-to and you won’t be fired on.

    Note a key difference to Hamas: no Pallywood victimology. That makes ISIS quite different – and more attractive in the eyes of some would-be jihadis? Will be interesting to see if the Western Left can keep supporting them without the Pallywood aspect.

  169. Snoopy

    From Bruce’s link:

    Hamas employs more than 40,000 civil servants in the Strip who haven’t received payment for several months.

    Hamas was hoping that the Palestinian government would pay the wages.

    The Palestinian Authority, however, employs about 80,000 civil servants who continue to receive full salaries, though they have not worked since Hamas seized control over Gaza in 2007.

    FMD

  170. Cato the Elder

    The Palestinian Authority, however, employs about 80,000 civil servants who continue to receive full salaries, though they have not worked since Hamas seized control over Gaza in 2007.

    Your tax dollars at work, courtesy of the UN.

  171. Perpetual Motion

    FFS you ignorant, high horse riding twit

    Dot continues to recruit hundreds of members to the LDP with his persuasive arguments.

  172. C.L.

    I’ve been periodically watching this three-part series on new recruits to the Royal Marines:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv-pxrUNhmw

    It’s vastly different to the kind of barking, yelling stupidity we’re used to from American movies. Interesting.

  173. Gab

    To this day I am absolutley astounded by the lack of reaction and action from Western countries to those evil murdering bastards known as the Islamic State. Oh how mightily the West has fallen to the enemy – twitter the meeja and the sneering, sanctimonious immoral Left.

  174. nilk, iron bogan

    I sat on the trampoline with the offspring until the clouds came and took away the moon. Then we came inside.

    Of course, I’ve facebooked the photos I took on my phone. I reckon someone should start a blog called Crappy Moon or something so we can post the crappy lunar eclipse photos taken on mobile phones.

  175. incoherent rambler

    Perpetual Motion
    #1471853, posted on October 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    ++1

  176. cohenite

    Still waiting for dot to justify his bullshit about Hinduism being the most rapidly expanding religion in Australia.

  177. Peter from SA

    Thinking further about the air strikes against ISIS. What was the sum total last weekend? a couple of humvees, mortar squads and other vehicles? Pretty much insignificant, although not completely ineffectual.

    Just think, if ISIS acted normally they would have tens of dozens of vehicles moving at night, on open desert highways far from population centres, moving men, ammunition, supplies etc. So given the low strike rate it suggests either (1) ISIS has wisened up quickly and keeps their vehicles near cities or near buses full of kids; or (2) the rules enabling a strike are so impractical it rarely occurs.

    Under these conditions, I’d have to agree with those that say an air war is unlikely to “win”. How can it? The intent for victory is massively downgraded by the intent to do so at no negative cost, which is impossible.

  178. Baldrick

    JC.
    #1471833, posted on October 8, 2014 at 10:04 pm
    Yes, really.
    Author Naomi Wolf has been accused of being ‘disrespectful’ after suggesting footage of hostages being beheaded by ISIS militants isn’t real.

    Wonder what she thinks about the moon landings?

  179. cohenite

    JC; what indeed; the authors are assuming melting of the Antarctic Sheet ice [ice on land] at its base, basal, and this melt-water is flowing into the ocean trapping hot water underneath creating an inversion whereby the trapped colder surface water freezes which gives the erroneous impression that things are colder whereas it is AGW heating which sets the whole damn thing off.

    Guesswork. Note this paper which shows basal cooling and thickening from the base of the Antarctic ice-sheet.

    Also air and ocean temps at depth below this supposed inversion have been flat or cooling for a decade.

    Bullshit is what it is.

  180. Fisky

    Still waiting for dot to justify his bullshit about Hinduism being the most rapidly expanding religion in Australia.

    Ummmm – 2011 Census reveals Hinduism as the fastest growing religion in Australia

    What more do you want?

    The most common non-Christian religions in 2011 were Buddhism (accounting for 2.5 per cent of the population), Islam (2.2 per cent) and Hinduism (1.3 per cent). Of these, Hinduism had experienced the fastest growth since 2006, increasing from 148,130 to 275,534, followed by Islam from 340,394 to 476,291 and Buddhism from 418,749 to 528,977.

    So Hinduism is the fastest growing religion in Australia after all. That is a fact. Even cranks can look it up.

  181. Fisky

    Also – Hindus have tripled since 2001 (95,000 to over 275,000 now). That’s easily the largest increase of all affiliations.

    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/46d1bc47ac9d0c7bca256c470025ff87/bfdda1ca506d6cfaca2570de0014496e!OpenDocument

    I conclude that our only response to these frightening numbers must be to ban vegetarianism and blow up as many temples as we can!

  182. Notafan

    Lots more skilled migrants from India though some of those will be muslims .
    Mr Morrison has closed the door on a significant number of family reunion visas(some under Labor were subject to 16 year waiting periods)
    So we might see Hinduism increase by migration and islam by birthrate.
    I’d like to see the stats for humanitarian intakes. I’m hoping some of the ‘ethnically cleansed ‘ get priority,

  183. Fisky

    “Do the maths lads and lassies: how long before our mozzies are a bare majority?”

    Well, what are your maths? If you are claiming that you have done calculations proving that Muslims will be a majority, show us your reasoning.

  184. entropy

    Of these, Hinduism had experienced the fastest growth since 2006, increasing from 148,130 to 275,534

    and they are all driving frickin’ taxis.

  185. Dresden was a major rail hub.

    So the Germans would have been assisted in moving soldiers around making the allied losses on the battlefield higher.

    The SS would have been able to execute more European Jewry and cover up more of their crimes.

    All because you are holding allies accountable for the reckless indifference of the Nazi regime.

    Even in hindsight you are wrong.

    Let’s go to the video-tape:

    On 28 March [1945], in a memo sent by telegram to General Ismay for the British Chiefs of Staff and the Chief of the Air Staff, he wrote:

    It seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing of German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed. Otherwise we shall come into control of an utterly ruined land… The destruction of Dresden remains a serious query against the conduct of Allied bombing. I am of the opinion that military objectives must henceforward be more strictly studied in our own interests than that of the enemy.
    The Foreign Secretary has spoken to me on this subject, and I feel the need for more precise concentration upon military objectives such as oil and communications behind the immediate battle-zone, rather than on mere acts of terror and wanton destruction, however impressive.[104][105]

    The bombing did little to nothing in curtailing the slaughter of European Jews, and in any accounting of human life, they have precisely the same value as those German civilians and displaced persons that were then in Dresden.

    Yep. So you’re wrong. Like I said the laws were repudiated later. “Mainly” in colonies doesn’t mean “only” like you asserted before.

    Not at all. It was not a law but an administrative act, and when it was challenged, it was ignored by the Parlement.

    It may be help to return to your original error here, you said two months earlier:

    Napoleon ended French laws on miscegnation, after he gained dominance over the Catholic Church in Western Europe.

    Firstly, he didn’t. The relevant administrative acts were repealed in 1792. And, secondly, no, it wasn’t because Napoleon, or anyone else, gained dominance over the Catholic Church in Western Europe, or anywhere else, because the Church never supported bans on interracial marriage in Western Europe, or anywhere else.

  186. JC.

    You’re fucked when this guy thinks you’re useless.

    Jimmy Carter: President Obama blew it on ISIL

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/jimmy-carter-barack-obama-isil-111692.html#ixzz3FYi3ockX

  187. C.L.

    Jimmy Carter: President Obama blew it on ISIL

    Good Lord.

    Wow. That’s brutal.

  188. Fisky

    Hey Tillman, [email protected] You guys want to get over here and explain how the Kenyan is doing a magnificent job?

  189. johanna

    PUP’s only Queensland State MP has resigned from the party to become an Independent.

    Mind you, this bloke seems to be competing for the Billy Hughes Award. This is his third affiliation.

  190. Jimmy Carter: President Obama blew it on ISIL

    Good Lord.

    Wow. That’s brutal.

    Indeed. BTW, remember that moron at news.com.au that was making hay because Abbott referred to ISIL/ISIS/IS as ISIL because s/he thought it was idiosyncratic? Has s/he offerred an apology and lost his/her shit-eating grin?

  191. JC.

    It’s no longer the Kenyan, Fisk. It’s Obola.

  192. Oh come on

    that moron at news.com.au

    That employee at news.com.au, dover. They’re all morons – no need to rub it in.

  193. Peter from SA

    It’s no longer the Kenyan, Fisk. It’s Obola.

    I reckon that might stick in a weird way. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer golfer …

  194. srr


    German defense ministry goes back on Ebola promise

    In September, the German defense minister promised soldiers and volunteers going to West Africa they’d be transported back to Germany if they caught Ebola. Now the ministry has had to reverse its statement.

  195. Oh come on

    Russia would bring their people home!

  196. Dred Scott and Same-Sex Marriage:

    1. Like Dred Scott, judicial decisions in favor of same-sex marriage needlessly divide the country on an important moral issue about which people differ, and could otherwise debate their differences in the democratic process, on the pretext that there is a genuine constitutional issue in the cases.

    2. Like Dred Scott, such decisions rest on transparently fallacious legal reasoning with no connection to the Constitution’s words, historic meaning, or underlying principles.

    3. Like Dred Scott, these decisions rely, in part, on the conflation of the due process clause with a constitutionally ungrounded and so far unexplained power of the judiciary to decide what is “arbitrary” or “reasonable” or “just” in legislation, known by the laughable oxymoron “substantive due process.”

    RTWT.

  197. srr

    Women, huh…


    Bundeswehr blunders

    The Wednesday report follows a series of blunders that have cast a negative light on the Defense Ministry in recent weeks.

    In late September, Defense Minister von der Leyen admitted that Germany could not currently fulfill its NATO commitments in the event of an attack on a member of the alliance, pointing to delays in replacement parts and missing helicopters.

    Several German newspapers have published reports revealing massive gaps in the number of planes and helicopters which should be in service, but are, in fact, currently grounded.

    Infografik Materialprobleme bei der Bundeswehr Englisch

    Earlier this week, outside experts also completed a three-month-long study of the Bundeswehr, concluding that it lacked sufficient equipment and had wasted money on poorly managed projects.

    Nine major projects worth 57 billion euros ($72 billion) were running between two-and-a-half and 10 years behind, often resulting in cost overruns amounting to billions of euros.

    Since taking her post in late 2013, von der Leyen has used her role as defense minister to advocate a greater German military presence in international conflict zones. The problems plaguing the country’s military have raised concern that her plans cannot be realized.

  198. Oh come on

    Hark at one of the dopey fuckers Obama gathered around him to help him construct his glorious Presidency:

    I think if you ask the question, Do you think that Leon Panetta’s book helps or harms our interest, or help or harm the credibility of this administration as the president is conducting the job of foreign policy and keeping our nation safe? It’s hard to say yes.

    It’s not actually hard to say yes. You can just say it. Yes. See?

    I think if you ask the question, Do you think that Leon Panetta’s book helps or harms our interest, or help or harm the credibility of this administration as the president is conducting the job of foreign policy and keeping our nation safe?? It’s hard to say yes lieutenant.

    And that’s fair’s enough, because so many people have difficulty saying it correctly.

  199. C.L.

    I’m confused, Dover.

    Bob Carr BA Hons, CWB*, said Dred Scott was a “great decision.”

    *Civil War Buff

  200. C.L.

    Front page exclusive, The Oz:

    LABOR holds the seats with the highest bulk-billing rates, while in Coalition MPs’ areas, patients are used to paying to see a doctor.

    Shocking, I know.

  201. srr


    Texas district attorney Craig Watkins of Dallas County is weighing whether to file criminal charges against Thomas Eric Duncan, the Ebola-infected Liberian, for consciously exposing the US public to the virus, press reports say

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-county-weighs-charging-ebola-man-20141008-113bx7.html#ixzz3FYuCevAM

  202. C.L.

    Speaking of Carr, I was reading an article yesterday inspired by the booing of Tony Abbott at the NRL grand final. Kind of a potted history of politicians at the football. Apparently Carr was advised he ought to go to a game and did so, taking a book with him. Paul Keating was given similar advice. Weighing into some bogus commentary he said Steve “Blocker” Roach had kicked many tries for the Tigers.

  203. Jimmy

    Emma Alberici put in a Rabbitohs performance tonite on lateline. Credit her the tiger awoke against a truly grade A shitbag

  204. Oh come on

    The Paul Keating interviews were simply unforgettable. The Great Man himself, ensconced within his Liberace-inspired gin palace, willingly brought forth voluminous quantities of forty-plus year old newspaper clippings detailing forty-plus year old ALP factional intrigues, whereby a young E Type Jag-driving Paul Keating inevitably won the day.

    What a sad old wanker Paul Keating is.

  205. johanna

    Talk about rolling over on our tummies and begging for mercy:

    The Chief of Defence has advised Army, Navy and Air Force cadets to exercise common sense and judgement when considering wearing uniforms in public.

    [ ]

    Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Ken Lay said the decisions were justified.

    “We’ve seen issues around the world where people in military uniforms have been targetted,” Mr Lay said.

    “I think it’s sensible, it’s the right thing to do and it’s probably indicative of the environment we are living in unfortunately.”

    Police have also warned Customs, ambulance and fire services staff against wearing uniforms in public.

    Police, ambos, school cadets, firies and ADF personnel seemingly ought to be ashamed of their uniforms, or frightened that someone might take offence.

    It’s not just about Muslims, either. As a wimmenses, the sight of these uniforms in public places give me a sense of security – and one which is not based in fantasy. Dickheads of all stripes are deterred, and people wearing these uniforms are more likely to act if things go pear-shaped.

    Why are these idiots waving the white flag before a shot has been fired? Perhaps OH & S and political correctness has become more important than protecting the public.

    Gutless wonders, the lot of them.

  206. Oh come on

    I wonder if Keato bores everyone who comes to visit him similarly. Before you leave, would you like to have a look at these seventy four albums of newspaper articles spanning my career that I’ve labouriously compiled?

  207. C.L.

    Police have also warned Customs, ambulance and fire services staff against wearing uniforms in public.

    Ken Lay should be fired for physical cowardice.

  208. C.L.

    Elected in 1969, Paul Keating sat around on his arse throughout the 1970s.

    In the 80s, he borrowed the Campbell Report.

    In the 90s, he presided over the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression.

    Then he was thrown out of office.

    That’s his resume.

    In a truly great deliberative body – like the British parliament in its heyday – he wouldn’t be fit to empty the ashtrays.

  209. From the other TLS:

    Penny’s post-revolutionary world is pro-love and pro-sex (she describes herself as a “digital romantic” and provides a moving description of how relationships are conducted online). But she is not pro-“Love TM” – the ritualized procedure by which men and women dehumanize one another on the “quest” that ends in marriage (the “minority practice that is valued above all”). Women are particular devotees of “Love TM”, making sacrifices for it and valuing it above all else. “Women across the classes are taught to seek the love of men first, to assess our worth on the basis of how good we are at keeping and holding male attention.” It is a “miserable and exhausting ritual” that demands “rigid gender conformity” and represses the human spirit. Women, it emerges, are kept in line, not by the threat of violence, but by the threat of the withdrawal of love.

    I think it is safe to conclude that feminist support for gay ‘marriage’ is entirely aimed at destroying marriage. However, read the whole thing, it is another exhibit in the intellectual asylum that is the modern ages.

  210. MartinG

    I’m not fan of Alan Jones, but in this interview he shows up what a totally dumb fuck Tony Abbott is.

    arr um a a aar here ah um here is Tony um aar Tony Abbott.

  211. Oh come on

    That’s his resume.

    Unfair. And he has a number of clippings from newspapers to illustrate his point.

    He is also not going to miss out on that two for one coupon special on John West 170g Tinned Tuna Varieties.

    He is, however, somewhat peeved that Down Down prices have been known to go back Up Up.

  212. C.L.

    I hadn’t heard of polyphonic overtone singing. It’s really weird and quite incredible.

    Two notes sung at the same time and all sorts of scale variations.

    Over at the UK Tele, German singer Anna-Maria Hefele shows how its done.

    But the true bonus is that Anna-Maria Hefele is a total babe.

  213. None

    Wherein my long-held opinion that Twitter is staffed by psycho lefties who can’t work out their own algorithms is shown to be fact. Again.

  214. MartinG

    C.L.
    #1471914, posted on October 9, 2014 at 1:38 am

    Police have also warned Customs, ambulance and fire services staff against wearing uniforms in public.

    Ken Lay should be fired for physical cowardice.

    You can’t be too careful. When I go out I wear the full burka and talk in a high pitched voice.

  215. MartinG

    C.L.
    #1471914, posted on October 9, 2014 at 1:38 am

    Police have also warned Customs, ambulance and fire services staff against wearing uniforms in public.

    Ken Lay should be fired for physical cowardice.

    You can’t be too careful. When I go out I wear the full burka and talk in a high pitched voice.

  216. C.L.

    Well, it’s literally true.

    We have police commissioners visiting mosques and advising officers to ditch their uniforms.

    While at the same time defending the burka.

  217. westie woman

    Well that’s that..

    Mr Duncan, the Texas Ebola patient has died – just read it on Ace of Spades HQ

  218. johanna

    Good point, C.L.

    Police, firies etc not to wear uniforms in public because it might be provocative, but we must all defend the right of Muslim women to wear tents in public because it might be provocative.

    It’s Alice in Wonderland stuff.

  219. While Ken Lay is counseling cowardice for firemen in Australia …

    This 85 year old Kurdish man decided to stay and fight to defend his hometown of Kobane against ISIS jihadists.

    There are Liberal governments at both the relevant State and Federal levels, and yet it is more embarrassing then life under TLS.

  220. The Fiery Rejection Emails That Have a Christian Job Applicant Taking Legal Action:

    And Paquette claims she has evidence — a rejection email that reportedly mentions her alma mater Trinity Western University, a Christian school in Canada that has come under fire of late over its faith-based stance against homosexuality.

    “It did really hurt me and I did feel really attacked on the basis that I’m a Christian,” Paquette told CBC. “My beliefs have developed who I am as an individual, but they don’t come into play when I am doing my job.”

    The email, which reportedly came from Olaf Amundsen, who handles hiring for the company, purportedly said that Paquette wasn’t qualified and then proceeded to mention Trinity Western by name.

    “Unlike Trinity Western University, we embrace diversity, and the right of people to sleep with or marry whoever they want,” the letter read, according to CBC.

    This is the part that particularly interested me the most:

    And that’s not all. The text continued: “The Norse background of most of the guys at the management level means that we are not a Christian organization, and most of us actually see Christianity as having destroyed our culture, tradition and way of life.”

    and

    Amundsen wrote in a statement to CBC. “Any further discussion after that, including the fact that we strongly disagree with the position that gay people should not be allowed to marry or even engage in sexual relationships, would have been a mere expression of opinion.”

    Aside from the fact that the Norse were still engaging in human sacrifice into the second millennium, the attitude of the ‘culture’ he pines the loss of had, by his own lights, an even greater antipathy to sodomy than the civilization that was gifted to him.

  221. School Told to Call Kids ‘Purple Penguins’ Because ‘Boys and Girls’ Is Not Inclusive to Transgender:

    A Nebraska school district has instructed its teachers to stop referring to students by “gendered expressions” such as “boys and girls,” and use “gender inclusive” ones such as “purple penguins” instead.

    “Don’t use phrases such as ‘boys and girls,’ ‘you guys,’ ‘ladies and gentlemen,’ and similarly gendered expressions to get kids’ attention,” instructs a training document given to middle-school teachers at Lincoln Public Schools.

    “Create classroom names and then ask all of the ‘purple penguins’ to meet on the rug,” it advises.

  222. Makka

    dot. #1471668, posted on October 8, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Have you ever left your mom’s granny flat?

  223. Makka

    “Unlike you – I have the wits to realise not every Muslim believes in Shar’ia, loves ISIS etc.”

    The fantasy world of dot. Wits? When you aren’t lying and verballing ,you are making shit up to buttress you’re fantasy construct of the world. The LDP really is chock full of fringies it seems.

  224. A Lurker

    I have an idea that will slow the spread of Islam in Australia. It is very simple, and can be applied to all other religions in order for it to be seen to be equitable and not discriminatory.

    The idea is – in order to build any religious building (including purchasing the land that it is to be built on, or to buy an existing structure) – whether it is intended to be a church, mosque, temple, synagogue, hall, bookshop or meeting place – the funds need to be raised locally within Australia through legitimate fundraising activities (Halal certification also needs to be proscribed in this country) or from individual donations (and place a cap on individual donations at some reasonable amount).

    That means, if they want more mosques – then they have to pony up with the money themselves – which will limit the size of the building, and reduce the amount of money flowing overseas to fund terror there. Also by proscribing Halal certification, we effectively turn off the money tap that is funding God-knows what sort of malign activities both here and overseas.

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