Who are the Liberal Democrats?

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  1. Aussiepundit says:

    Leyonhjelm has done an excellent job of raising the profile of the LDP as well as libertarianism in general in Australia.
    He’s doing an excellent job.

  2. Eddystone says:

    This is what the Libs should be saying.

    Much as I disagree with some LDP policies, good on DL for bringing the idea of small government to the debate.

  3. Linden says:

    Eddystone I agree with you comment whole heartily. To me the Liberal Party has forgotten how to be the Liberal Party. I’m not up to speed with all the DLP agendas but some of the things that bloke has said in the recent times makes sense to me. Whereas Hugh McKay penned the term and titled a book as the ‘Age of Anxiety’ ? I think we are as a society firmly ensconced in the age of stupidity. We don’t need (as every now and then some lawyer will say) a bill of right; what we need is a bill of personal responsibility.

  4. crazydude says:

    Yes. I am seriously thinking about giving my vote to the LDP at the Victorian election. Well, my senate vote at least.

  5. boy on a bike says:

    DL is exceptionally fortunate that the LDP is unable to afford a bevy of PR types. The first thing they’d do is try to control the message, which would mean killing off any communications that weren’t released via the “correct” channels (i.e., after being scrubbed of anything interesting or controversial by the “communications experts”). DL must have produced at least $5 million worth of free advertising so far this year. The major parties spend all their time and energy fund raising to pay for advertising to get their message across – DL just opens his mouth. I much prefer his approach.

  6. Econocrat says:

    For $70 (tax deductable) dollars, I’ve become a member.

    I think we will grow strongly over the next few years, as we have the capacity to attract many younger voters on social issues, and older voters on economic issues.

    Senator Leyonhjelm is the star of the Sentate.

  7. . says:

    That was a very good promotion of the LDP. I hope it spreads far and wide.

  8. Incogneto says:

    100% agree with DL but what is the LDP position on the Islamic problem?

  9. AussiePundit says:

    DL is exceptionally fortunate that the LDP is unable to afford a bevy of PR types.

    LOL very true!

  10. Anne says:

    That was a very good promotion of the LDP. I hope it spreads far and wide.

    I do too.

    But he needs to say it ten times louder and, some detail would be nice.

    Maybe rattle off the top 100 useless, productivity hobbling taxes and regulations.

  11. jumpnmcar says:

    This new generation of voters need a few ” Celebrities ” to twat and bookface about Libertarianism.
    Who we got ?
    Any at all ?

  12. Baldrick says:

    Good to see some LDP promotion. Should be more of it.

  13. Jonah says:

    DL has the right idea. Be good to see him try and repeal all laws from the say, 1950 onwards and then after taking a breath, working backwards from there.

  14. johno says:

    This is what the Libs should be saying.

    They do , sorta, say this, especially at their branch meeting or if they are addressing the IPA. The problem is they don’t mean it. The Liberal Party only says this to excite their base. The Liberal Party doesn’t actually believe in liberalism.

  15. johno says:

    Yes. I am seriously thinking about giving my vote to the LDP at the Victorian election. Well, my senate vote at least.

    If you mean by your ‘senate’ vote, your vote for the Victorian Legislative Council, then the LDP have preselected candidates for each of the eight regions. (Scroll down to regions.)
    https://www.vec.vic.gov.au/Candidates/State2014CandidatesSummary.html

  16. Alfonso says:

    The devil’s in the detail for Dave.
    Sticking to the “no decrease in liberty , no increase in taxes ” meme is a winner.

    Ask him about “concealed handgun carry for my halfwit, but non-criminally convicted, neighbour” and ‘Houston, we have a problem’…… a problem that will crucify the LDP on TV at election time.

    They just don’t get it. A lost cause. Yawn.

  17. jupes says:

    100% agree with DL but what is the LDP position on the Islamic problem?

    Stop Operation Sovereign Borders and replace it with open borders.

  18. Alfonso says:

    Indeed….. primitive failed cultures, exhibiting non assimilating, Australian values hating, 3rd world socio-religious primitives have just peachy access to Australia as long as they can buy in…..in an LDP world.

    According to Their LDP, culture doesn’t matter……just conformity with LDP rules.

  19. jumpnmcar says:

    Stop Operation Sovereign Borders and replace it with open borders.

    No, property rights doesn’t allow squatters.
    Is that correct?

  20. Aussiepundit says:

    Ask him about “concealed handgun carry for my halfwit, but non-criminally convicted, neighbour” and ‘Houston, we have a problem’…… a problem that will crucify the LDP on TV at election time.

    Why? because he won’t win 51 percent of the vote?
    LDP just needs to get and grow a core constituency at this point.

    His views on gun ownership are well known and well aired. And as he has said on many occasions – it doesn’t actually impact at the federal level anyway.

  21. . says:

    Alfonso doesn’t like bogans having guns, despite having the diction of a 13 year old swineherd.

    People constantly lie about what “open borders” means. If you must lie, you arguments are worthless.

  22. Alfonso says:

    “Alfonso doesn’t like (halfwit) bogans having guns”
    Correct…and neither will the middle class when they understand Dave’s bar talk.

    “People constantly lie about what “open borders” means”.
    Really? Prospective LDP primitive Muslim “buy in” immigration goes on unrestricted, it seems.
    Culture doesn’t matter to Their LDP.

  23. Incogneto says:

    The Saudi’s have been funding the Islamisation of Western countries by building Mosque’s, funding Universities etc… If the LDP are suggesting that “buy in Immigration” is the way to go then the Saudi’s will play you off a break…

  24. JC says:

    “People constantly lie about what “open borders” means”.
    Really? Prospective LDP primitive Muslim “buy in” immigration goes on unrestricted, it seems.
    Culture doesn’t matter to Their LDP.

    Really, because you can buy into Australia right now with a business visa. There’s no restriction in the numbers and the only limiting factor is the amount of money you have to bring in to start a business.

    In reality the real argument that people here have with the LDP policy is the amount of money needed to buy in as I haven’t seen any evidence of large protests against business visas.

  25. Alfonso says:

    It’s all about the price, silly.
    If the LDP is proposing buy in at existing business visa / residence prices for all immigrants there will be virtually no immigration. But you knew that.

  26. Petros says:

    DL is all for small government except when it comes to gay marriage. Then he demands big government recognition of such. He should be arguing that government has no role in dictating who can marry. It’s a church institution.

  27. . says:

    Here’s a hint for Alfonso.

    If he is referring to a large middle class, a lot of them are “bogans”.

    If he is referring to doctor’s wives – who cares?

  28. . says:

    Incogneto
    #1514874, posted on November 17, 2014 at 12:18 am
    The Saudi’s have been funding the Islamisation of Western countries by building Mosque’s, funding Universities etc… If the LDP are suggesting that “buy in Immigration” is the way to go then the Saudi’s will play you off a break…

    If you understood the policy instead of waiting for a chance to protest against it, you’d understand why that is a invalid concern.

    Prospective residents require:

    1. To pay the fee.
    2. To pass security checks.
    3. To have means to live in Australia.

    They cannot become citizens for at least ten years, which means they’d receive NO welfare.

    Even with a nominal entry fee, such a perfidious scheme to export Wahhibist Islam through immigration would simply be to expensive to work.

  29. . says:

    Petros

    This has been pointed out ad nauseum – David only supports the SSM bill if conscience provisions for private marriage celebrants and ministers of religion are followed.

    You are simply incorrect. The LDP favours ending subsidising lifestyle choices, of any preference.

  30. Percy says:

    Ask him about “concealed handgun carry for my halfwit, but non-criminally convicted, neighbour”

    Oh dear. Your halfwit neighbour’s halfwit neighbour is becoming hysterical again.

  31. Alfonso says:

    Ask him Perc.

  32. Percy says:

    I know the answer already, and I support it. As would anyone with a functional frontal lobe that has actually researched the topic.

  33. Alfonso says:

    Bwaaa…. let’s hope the electorate at large also get to be fully informed on LDP firearm policies. I’m sure Their ABC are on it.

  34. Tel says:

    Ask him about “concealed handgun carry for my halfwit, but non-criminally convicted, neighbour”

    Intelligence test for gun ownership? Hmmm, kind of an attractive idea, integral caluclus should be a basic minimum before owning anything more dangerous than a ping pong ball.

    Hmmm, anything else where we should apply an intelligence test?

  35. . says:

    Alfonso supports the criminally left wing ABC.

  36. Oh come on says:

    100% agree with DL but what is the LDP position on the Islamic problem?

    You have got to be shitting me. Do you ever think of anything else?

  37. Oh come on says:

    The Guide To How Not To Vote LDP or The Guide To How To Hold Your Nose And Keep Voting LNP:

    100% agree with DL but what is the LDP position on *insert your boutique issue of concern here*?

  38. . says:

    It’s Hi Alanism par excellence, OCO.

    Hi Alan!

  39. Fisky says:

    You have got to be shitting me. Do you ever think of anything else?

    I’m sure the other half of his day is spent brainstormng camp logistics, furnace design, and how to extract gold teeth.

  40. JC says:

    MartinG
    #1515065, posted on November 17, 2014 at 12:08 pm
    JC
    #1515025, posted on November 17, 2014 at 11:17 am

    The ECB already have a negative interest which applies to funds banks park with the central bank. It’s nohing directly to do with depositors money. Stop talking about shit you don’t understand.

    I’m always happy to be corrected or anything I write to be clarified but don’t you ever speak to me like that again, you slithering piece of pond slime.

    Oh, I so sorry to have spoken to you like that MartinG. It was really awful of me

    I’m kidding. Fuck off dickhead.

    This site has been attacked and plastered with bolthead bullshit and stupid crap for weeks and it’s coming to an end.

    If you don’t understand monetary economics …confusing monetary policy with taxation don’t talk about it otherwise you send the Boltheads into another mental spasm.

    And one other thing, if you talk shit don’t dare tell me how I ought to speak to you.. you fucking idiot.

  41. JC says:

    O ops Fong Fred. Please delete.

  42. oldsalt says:

    Apart from business visas, we already have buy-in immigration. Asylum seekers/ii buy their passage to RI, register with UNHCR, are looked after by IOM paid by Aust taxpayers, wait to be resettled in Aus and NZ, from where they can come to Aus. The smugglers’ business model works so well they don’t need boats for the final leg to Aus. This seems to be Morrison’s preferred model too, and one that smugglers and asylum seekers/ii can live with. It just takes longer, and costs more than it used to.

    Apart from the harsh detention regime, the most significant deterrent has been the belated AFP and ASIO crackdown on people in the domestic ethnic communities, who saw Rudd’s policy change as a window of opportunity to bring family and friends by boat. The Vietnamese did it too. 30 fold increase

  43. Tel says:

    100% agree with DL but what is the LDP position on the Islamic problem?

    My personal position as a libertarian is that any religion willing to allow people to change their minds and leave for some other religion is acceptable. People are welcome to worship, they are not welcome to force others to agree. That’s a nice simple position and compatible with the basic libertarian ideal.

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