Tuesday Forum: November 18, 2014

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  1. calli

    Assassins, Butchers and Cremators of the ABC. A nice acronym since, when the deed is all done and dusted, no-one else will be using it.

  2. srr

    Yeah, Muppets of the EU & UN really love and respect ancient old and recently new constitutions, hard fought and died for, campaigned and freely voted for…unless those constitutions give people the power to free themselves of the UN & EU Dictatorships.
    Then, as the Christian hating and Islam serving Obama’s ‘america’ keeps doing, they are mocked and trashed.

  3. goatjam

    The Russians I know are simply resigned to the fact that voting is a joke and it simply does not matter who you want to be PM or President, it has already been decided for you.

    Give them a break. The Russkies are way behind the west on this democracy thing. Eventually they will realise it is better to give the proles the illusion that they have a choice by putting up opposing candidates who, once one of them is elected will do exactly the same thing as the other would have anyway.

    Every few years the proles get to vent their collective spleens at the polling booth and then go back to watching the footy.

    Rinse, lather, repeat.

  4. Slayer of Memes

    Thirty-eight members of a western Sydney family have been caught rorting $2 million of welfare payments from the government.

    One person claimed benefits while depositing $750,000 over three years and another paid off a $300,000 mortgage in just over two years while claiming income support.

    A third person received rent assistance for a property they already owned, said the Department of Human Services on Thursday.

    A spokesman for the department says the family fraud was discovered from a tip-off that a man had failed to declare his income.

    Nineteen family members have had their welfare payments cancelled after a wide-ranging investigation and another 19 have had their payments reduced.

    Five members of the family have been referred to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions and debts have been raised against the fraudsters.

    Nine people have to repay more than $50,000, including two people who attempted to hide more than $100,000.

    Some money has been repaid, said a department spokesman, but the rest would be paid back over time.

    The Human Services Minister, Senator Marise Payne, said the consequences of such fraud could include prison time.

    “This rort was a blatant abuse of the welfare system and an offence to hard-working Australians who expect their taxes to be spent helping those in need,” she said in a statement.

    “Fortunately these cases are rare and do not represent the behaviour of millions of Centrelink customers.

    “The case, she said, highlighted the importance of tip offs in keeping integrity within the welfare system.

    38 members of one single family?

    From the western suburbs of Sydney?

    Those fucking Buddhists…. *shakes fist*

  5. Grigory M

    without my knowledge or permission, NBN Co has entered my property and tampered with my house.

    Senile Old Guy – For months well in advance we received letters progressively from NBNCo, Telstra and iiNet (our existing provider) telling us the NBN was coming, what would be happening, and when it would happen. Both Telstra and iiNet were offering NBN Plans from the outset. About 2 weeks before installation of the outside box we were door-knocked by an NBNCo representative to tell us that installation was imminent, that we could select the outside wall location for the box, and that we didn’t need to be at home when it was done. Easy Peasy.

    Maybe they did it differently for your place?

  6. Rabz

    Well there you go.

    Yet again, Grogory has never seen an example of big government stupidity that he wasn’t totally cool with.

  7. goatjam

    . get a couple of 4G (hopefully 5G by the time they get here) modems

    The problem with that is that none of the mobile networks that I am aware of will provide you with a proper IP address.

    It’s all private IPs via NAT.

    This is OK for people who just want to browse the web but it is virtually useless to anybody who has more advanced requirements.

  8. goatjam

    Anyone interested in starting “Enemies of the ABC” ?

    Count me in.

  9. Viva

    UK dumbwatch:

    Parents angered after Lincolnshire primary school marked down by inspectors for not having enough black or Asian children

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/11240700/School-marked-down-by-Ofsted-for-being-too-white.html

  10. Senile Old Guy

    Maybe they did it differently for your place?

    I thought my fairly clear description of events indicated that. Letters received, yes, as how else would I be told that I had to choose a new plan.

    No visits or questions about locations. As it happens, they have put the outside box in probably the worst place, given the internal structure of the house.

    And as for your advice about plans, I am well able to scope that myself. My point is that I am happy with what I but have to change because of the bl**dy NBN.

  11. Tom

    FOR a taxpayer-funded organisation that’s all about ‘‘diversity’’, the Human Rights Commission certainly has a funny way of showing it.

    Just look at the finalists for their Human Rights “Media” Awards, announced last week.

    The short-listed television, radio, print and online nominees appear to be more a list of the Commission’s like-minded and government-supported mates, than a cross-section of the best of Australian journalism on issues like refugees or the plight of Aboriginal Australians.

    Of the 12 “Media’’ Awards finalists, eight had their work published or broadcast by a taxpayer-funded or subsidised organisation.

    Three of the short-listed programs were broadcast by the ABC, which receives over $1 billion of taxpayer funding a year.

    A further three were broadcast by the SBS and National indigenous Television, which together receive $287 million in funding per annum.

    Noongar Radio and the Griffith Review, which receive some government support, achieved one nomination each.

    Just two commercial media outlets made the finals, the Fairfax-owned The Age and the now defunct The Global Mail. Notably, The Global Mail was funded by entrepreneur Graeme Wood, who helped bankroll the left-leaning online publication The Guardian.

    Mr Wood also provided the Greens with $1.6m in funding for their 2010 federal election campaign.

    maybe the journalists and opinion makers at The Australian weren’t nominated for their relentless work highlighting the endemic issues in Aboriginal communities, and suggesting solutions for problems which decades of policymakers have failed to solve.

    A basic database search of The Australian using the terms “Aboriginal” or “indigenous” over the past 12 months provided 2,874 matches. When the word poverty was added 2,264 matches were returned. When averaged out, that’s between 188 and 239 articles a month.

  12. goatjam

    The FTTH NBN is wildly popular,

    The trouble is Andrew, that it is only “wildly popular” amongst people who have not yet been forced to purchase it.

    Once there are a critical mass of people being forced to change their

    health insurance provider

    Internet service provider for one that might be faster, but has less data allowance and more expensive then they will hate it.

    By then the Lieberals will own the problem and will take brunt of the blame.

    Keeping the NBN was incredibly short sighted and they will eventually pay the price for their stupidity.

  13. calli

    Apropos of the disgraceful identity theft upthread, it does illustrate the dreadful toll that feminism takes on the appearance.

    This is me. [bats eyelashes]

    Compare and contrast with da feminist hag. What a scold.

  14. Tom

    MICHAEL Schumacher is in a wheelchair, unable to speak and suffering from memory loss, according to a former French racing driver.

    Philippe Streiff, who himself uses a wheelchair after an accident in 1989, said he had remained in contact with his friend Schumacher.

    “He is getting better (but) everything is relative,” he said. “It’s very difficult because he cannot speak. He’s in a wheelchair, paralysed, with memory and speech problems as well.

    “The fact that he’s in his family will perhaps enable him to recover more quickly, but it’s difficult. It appears that he communicates with his eyes, with his wife and press officer.”

  15. Grigory M

    My point is that I am happy with what I but have to change because of the bl**dy NBN.

    Sure – we were the same, and didn’t want the NBN – for all the reasons that have been well and truly aired, here and elsewhere – but went with it when we saw what was on offer.

  16. srr

    I’d be happy for everyone who hasn’t personally experienced being punished and blackballed by Dictatorships and Unions for refusing to serve them, except, they are more often than not those being rewarded for carrying out the punishments –


    Over the weekend, Ukraine’s President Petro Poroshenko, amidst a military buildup by Russia and Ukrainian reinforcements being rushed to the east, announced the government would stop funding public services in insurgent-held areas in Donetsk and Luhansk, the two eastern-most provinces. That includes halting funding of public hospitals.

    Reaction from civilians in the city of Donetsk is fierce.

    Galina, a 66-year-old pensioner, says she has not received her state pension for four months and is worried about the ending of funding of public services. She says the separatists took over the city and no one asked them to do this, but why should Kyiv punish ordinary people. “Without state funding what should ordinary people do, just starve and die?” she asks angrily.

    Kyiv hopes that by isolating Moscow-backed rebel-held areas, it will push ordinary people to turn against separatists. But some critics fear it will have the opposite effect, saying most locals opposed to the insurgency have long fled, leaving either diehard supporters or those too poor or old to go.

  17. … invade North Africa, in 1942 – Operation “Torch” found it necessary to take six tonnes of lingerie, including genuine silk stockings, I would be obliged.

    Same reason that cigarettes were a viable currency in Germany/Japan after 1945, and gaols use them for the same reason. Just ask Lizzie – she’s the ‘go to’ person for this stuff…

  18. custard

    Tits Shorten has just described the ABC as Abbotts Budget Cuts.

    You have to admire the left filth for the hate.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    The FTTH NBN is wildly popular,

    So is Gonski, NDIS and the g- spot. Yet no one can explain what the hell these mythical things are, do or will cost.

    This is why Abbott and Hockey suck sweaty balls. They refuse to have adult conversations with the public. 3 word slogans is the limit of their stuttering vocabulary.

    They couldn’t sell smokes in prison.

  20. Rabz

    Grogory – have you not got a list new taxes you’d like to see imposed ready to be dispatched (via Aus Post) to Señor Hockey?

    Go away, you cardigan clad statist bore.

  21. candy

    Abbotts Budget Cuts.

    It’s not so bad really. Kind of highlights the intent to rationalise the budget and balance the books when Labor would do the opposite and give another $10 million to the ABC.

  22. Grigory M

    have you not got a list new taxes

    Rabz – your list of less-than-well-favoured taxes showed many that were not actually taxes. It was bloated way beyond anything that I would ever accept. BTW – have I told you that I am in favour of a flat tax of 20% for both individuals and companies – and keeping the GST at 10%?

    Hmm – it’s lunch-time – and no FBT will be incurred. Bon appetito. 🙂

  23. C.L.

    Pictures of 86 year-old pensioner Frank Carlino’s facial injuries.

    “I’m not scared but I’m not going to go out anymore. I’m too old.”

    If I was a copper, I’d do overtime to join the hunt for this turd.

    Two women have been charged already.

  24. notafan

    Former NSW minister Ian Macdonald to be prosecuted over Doyles Creek mine licence

    ABC headline

    Former Labor minister Ian Macdonald facing prosecution over Doyles Creek mine deal

    SMH headline
    If he was a former Liberal minister the ABC would have mentioned it one trillion times.

  25. Token

    ’d be happy for everyone who hasn’t personally experienced being punished and blackballed by Dictatorships and Unions for refusing to serve them, except, they are more often than not those being rewarded for carrying out the punishments –

    What the hell do you understand about the hopelessness that comes from an arbitrary dictatorial government kept on place by a foreign army?

    Get a grip.

  26. goatjam

    haha

    Apparently the people who run universities in this cretin filled toilet of a country believe that they make people more cleverer

  27. Token

    Muppets of the EU & UN really love and respect ancient old and recently new constitutions, hard fought and died for, campaigned and freely voted for

    Use your brain and stop emoting.

    Go find out about the Constitution on ’79 and the Treaty of Utrecht so you can understand more

    PS: this is an issue with the Spanish Federation, not the EU.

  28. thefrollickingmole

    C.L.

    Stocks or a gibbet out the front of the shopping center?

  29. C.L.

    Jason Soon always advocated the rattan for egregiously cowardly thugs.

    I would have no problem with a public flogging.

  30. Token

    Galina, a 66-year-old pensioner, says she has not received her state pension for four months and is worried about the ending of funding of public services.

    So why doesn’t Russia comply with the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances and get its military forces out of the sovereign territory of another nation so it can address this critical domestic issues?

    It is that simple, why won’t the Russian government think of poor people like Galina?

  31. Token

    Jason Soon always advocated the rattan for egregiously cowardly thugs.

    I always liked that about him.

  32. srr

    If he was a former Liberal minister the ABC would have mentioned it one trillion times.

    Yep.

    And by now ICAC is known for taking Liberal scalps while the Obeid’s and other Muppets of Labor keep walking, talking and ‘doing business’, so by not repeating that he was a Labor Minister, as often as they repeated him being charged, the ABC was deliberately ‘putting him in the Liberal camp’, in the minds of the majority.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Jason Soon always advocated the rattan for egregiously cowardly thugs.

    I would have no problem with a public flogging.

    I think David Lyonjhelm once derisively called Soon a “Singapore Libertarian”. Dot has the details.

    I think it’s the perfect description of what someone should be.

  34. .

    srr
    #1518063, posted on November 20, 2014 at 11:04 am
    Yeah, Muppets of the EU & UN really love and respect ancient old and recently new constitutions, hard fought and died for, campaigned and freely voted for…unless those constitutions give people the power to free themselves of the UN & EU Dictatorships.
    Then, as the Christian hating and Islam serving Obama’s ‘america’ keeps doing, they are mocked and trashed.

    FFS…this has nothing to do with the UN or EU. Catalonia has sought independence for a very long time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_Revolt

    The lesson here is alliance with France usually requires too much heavy lifting.

  35. C.L.

    Soon was great.

    One of about five genuine fathers of the Australian blogosphere and the sole father of the Australian libertarian blogosphere. He had a few blind spots, bigotry against Christians in the public square being one of them.

    In the early days, it was Blair, Soon, Parish, Yobbo, Sheil – they were the originators.

  36. C.L.

    Shiel, not Sheil.

    I always liked that left-wing boofhead.

  37. .

    I still have an anti Singaporean cultural cringe, I have dealt with Singaporean academics and all the good things others say about Singapore is tainted.

    I don’t like the cane but I’m for limited application of the death penalty. So that makes me a culturally American libertarian, or a Henry Boltean conservative.

    Soon did more for libertarians and libertarianism in Australia save for the likes of those in the LDP such as John Humphreys and perhaps David Leyonhjelm, and a few other contributors like David McAlary, Terje Petersen, Ben Buckley, etc.

    Which is finny because in his heart he was always culturally ALP.

    Which makes sense when you see how Michael Costa turned out.

    Something good about Chinese history in SE Asia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanfang_Republic

  38. .

    One person claimed benefits while depositing $750,000 over three years and another paid off a $300,000 mortgage in just over two years while claiming income support.

    Surely then they committed fraud in obtaining their loans as well? “Dole bludger” isn’t a job.

  39. .

    Rabz
    #1518073, posted on November 20, 2014 at 11:18 am
    Well there you go.

    Yet again, Grogory has never seen an example of big government stupidity that he wasn’t totally cool with.

    Yet he swears he hates big government and the ALP and Greens.

    He probably IS a Liberal voter.

  40. .

    Let the good times roll, C.L.

    One thing I despise in patiuclar about the ALP is how they hate businesspeople and their idea of being successful is to scam, rort or illegally scam or rort someone else and then set up a company to park the cash and earn a sub nominal return on their “investment”.

    They wouldn’t know how to actually be an entrepreneur if they met Mark Zuckerberg at Tiffany’s Turbo Red Room in 2007.

  41. Pedro the Ignorant

    Gutless mongrels wandering the streets attacking the elderly: https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/25555174/teens-charged-over-home-invasion/

    Perps are 14 and 15 y.o. WTF is wrong with these feral animals?

  42. Grigory M

    Yet he swears he hates big government and the ALP and Greens.

    Ah, Dot – there goes that vivid imagination of yours again. I have never, ever sworn any such thing.

  43. Roger

    Perps are 14 and 15 y.o. WTF is wrong with these feral animals?

    Little fear of consequences, for a start.

  44. Mike of Marion

    Ferken Jac Nasser – he was a failure as CEO of Ford Australia (he signed off on the AU Falcon) and now as head of BHP-Billiton, he wants a price on Carbon.

    Get him off the Board.

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Join the dots:

    THE girlfriend of Olympic champion Michael Phelps has dropped a bombshell — she was born a boy.

    “I was born with male genitalia with no testicles, but I also have a uterus and no ovaries,” she told Radar Online.

    Chandler claims Phelps, 29, was unaware that she was born intersex and that she did not tell him during their relationship.

    “Later, we had sex again. The intimacy with him was amazing! It was the first time in my life that someone has made me feel like a true woman.”

    Phelps was arrested for drunk driving and entered rehab last month.

  46. feelthebern

    THE girlfriend of Olympic champion Michael Phelps has dropped a bombshell — she was born a boy.

    Franks & beans.

  47. Perps are 14 and 15 y.o. WTF is wrong with these feral animals?

    They know nothing will happen to them. Watch them carefully & see how their behaviour moderates no end as they approach the age of legal majority (liable to receive an actual punishment and go to Big Boys Gaol)

  48. srr

    You can always spot devils, by the way they scribble, deface and muddy, big, clear pictures, with, poisonous feral details.

    They also luv pulling the, “Who are you to…!”, name rank and serial number required before.you are allowed to so much as point toward a broad vista, let alone speak of it, Stasiesque, silencing and control tactics.

    Oh and I know one here has a free pass to emote away about what evil red ruskies were supposed to have done to kin, because in doing so, friends and compassionate strangers will kill the tricky topic, out of respect.

    Pity the same compassion and respect isn’t demonstrated when arguing against people who have suffered under the evils of their own red, black and rainbow kin, of all nationalities and races.

  49. john constantine

    Jackie Lambie—how about doing a mal coulston and making jackie deputy president of the senate?.

  50. Tom

    Once you’ve “homogenised” the temperature record, a whole bunch of new never-before-used “records” become excellent propaganda weapons … faithfully delivered by one of the mates of the grant miners who did the homogenising — the weather girl hysteric at ShakeMyHamas.com:

    Sydney is in for another burst of high, summer-like heat, as a series of troughs draw in some of the hot air massing over central Australia.

    Alice Springs, … may register its fifth day of 40 degrees or warmer this November by Friday, including a record-shattering 44.9 degrees recorded a week ago.

    That sizzler set a new high for November and beat any top recorded for December.

  51. notafan

    Anyone emoting over the weather in Vic?
    I will. Its a bit on the cool side and I forgot my jumper.
    I am thinking of putting the heater on.

  52. C.L.

    I was born with male genitalia with no testicles.

    A promising career as a Liberal Party leader beckons.

  53. thefrollickingmole

    CL wins the internets for today.

  54. I was born with male genitalia with no testicles.

    A promising career as a Liberal Party leader beckons.

    Alas the male genitalia has been lopped off, the Army is pretty much the only option left.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They know nothing will happen to them. Watch them carefully & see how their behaviour moderates no end as they approach the age of legal majority (liable to receive an actual punishment and go to Big Boys Gaol)

    Was one copper in a fairly medium sized rural center, here in the Wild West, who used to send the more obnoxious juvenile offenders an eighteenth birthday card. No message necessary.

  56. Token

    I’m stunned Greenpeace activists didn’t whipper snip this crop in the name of science:

    Rice yield increase of 30 percent enabled by use of a photosynthesis ‘switch,’ researchers learn

    How dare they develop a GMT food!

    Can’t wait until they figure a wsy to trigger a switch to increade CO2 absorbion to offset what China will do through to 2030.

  57. C.L.

    Screw copyright. Download it free.

    Odeon charges an extra £1 to see blockbusters.

    Film fans are being charged an extra £1 a ticket to see the latest blockbusters.

    The Odeon cinema chain has imposed the surcharge on Hollywood movies including Interstellar and the third in the Hunger Games series.

    It says the £1 extra is part of its ‘dynamic pricing’ policy.

    But the move will infuriate filmgoers who feel that a trip to the cinema, from overpriced popcorn to the higher cost of peak-time screenings, is already a rip-off.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Old man basher arrested.

    If any of that gang of charmers are a bit slow in making a full confession, I can volunteer an anthill, and jar of honey.

  59. C.L.

    The judge should sentence him to Danny Green.

  60. Infidel Tiger

    Life on the ABC dole is good:

    MEDIA personalities Andrew Denton and Jennifer Byrne are believed to have forked out $4.025 million for a penthouse in Sydney?s inner-city Surry Hills nine days ago.

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Alas the male genitalia has been lopped off, the Army is pretty much the only option left.

    Once upon a time, children,

    “The role of the infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground, to repel attack, by night or day, regardless of season, weather or terrain.” How long ago was that?

  62. Makka

    ‘The incident has left Mr Carlino “humiliated”, a female family member told Network Seven.’

    Quite. Dignity is such a foreign concept to many yoof these days. Take care Mr Carlini.

  63. C.L.

    Frightbat ‘reporter’ Latika Bourke at Fairfax tries to gotcha Julie Bishop, as the latter woman’s bravura rise continues in New York:

    The irony behind Julie Bishop’s success at the United Nations Security Council.

    New York: As papers shuffled and speakers mumbled through their prepared statements, one voice rang louder, stronger and more forceful than the rest.

    There was no mistaking the determined tone of Foreign Minister Julie Bishop as she upped the rhetoric against Islamic State extremists, declaring them “masters of social media” and warning the threat of terrorism “is more dangerous” than ever…

    In December, Australia’s two-year membership of the United Nations Security Council – a position hard fought and secured by Labor and mocked and opposed by the Coalition – will expire. The record of the then opposition’s complaints about the bid are too numerous to list, but one from Bishop stands out: “There really has been no justification for the benefit that will accrue to Australia by pursuing a seat at this time.”

    It is Bishop herself who shot this claim to pieces when Australia won unanimous support for a key resolution over the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.

    A defining moment in the early life of the Abbott government, Bishop’s commanding performance kick-started discussion about her capacity to deliver and potential to lead. Ironically, it was the Security Council seat she fought so hard to oppose that has helped make her public rise possible.

    But at the bottom of the piece, Bishop escalates and destroys the entire gotcha:

    But she did not retreat from her pre-election complaints that the $25 million bid was premature.

    “Back in 2007 or 2008 when Kevin Rudd first announced the bid it was against the specific advice of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, who advised that a later date was preferable otherwise significant resources would have to be deployed and diverted and that’s most certainly what did happen,” she told reporters.

    “I was relying on the advice of DFAT at the time.”

    Asked if that advice had been proved wrong, she said: “It depends at what cost. Of course we did divert significant resources, funding and personnel from other foreign policy priorities and the question is now of having to catch up in other areas.”

  64. Tom

    ABC Media Watch host Paul Barry ($187,380) agrees with Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull that $50 million a year can be cut from the ABC’s back-office operations.

    Speaking to The Australian today, Barry said the ABC consistently has a problem with incoming coalition governments but a cut of five per cent was reasonable given Australia’s budget position.

    “A cut of 5 per cent or 6 per cent or 8 per cent is considerably lighter than it’s been in the past,’’ he said.

    “At a time when everything else in the country is being cut, I don’t think it’s unreasonable, but I do think it’s a broken promise.

    “Everything else is being cut. I see no reason, apart from the broken promise, why the ABC shouldn’t be included in that list.”

    His comments come after Mr Turnbull announced $254 million in funding cuts over five years to the ABC yesterday.

    Barry said his comments shouldn’t be surprising because he is supposed to take an objective position in his role as Media Watch host.

    Barry, of course, is notorious for his constant attacks on fat, unaccountable tax-eating government media, Fauxfacts opinion and propaganda dressed up as news and the looney tunes left (Guardian, New Matilda, etc) constant campaigning to subvert the dominant paradigm.

  65. cynical1

    Elon University in North Carolina banned the word “freshman” from its website and student orientation, claiming it’s sexist and suggests that the young women might make good rape victims.

    The also have the first rowing club in history to use “paddles”.

    Apparently a lesbian feminist student was upset when a rower said he was looking for some oars…

  66. H B Bear

    Andrew Denton is the Therese Rein of media.

    A magnificent business model. The easiest money you will ever make comes from the government.

  67. feelthebern

    Andrew Denton is the Therese Rein of media.

    Step 1: Find government orifice.
    Step 2: Attach vacuum cleaner.
    Step 3: Get PR company to promote what you are doing as a service to the community.
    Step 4: Lobby for an Australia day award & then say “Im so surprised” once you are successful.

    IT is right.
    This place is a shit stained toilet.

  68. JC

    jc

    @TheRealPBarry Yea Barry, now the libs have pulled the plug and let out some water, you think it’s reasonable. Yea you’re so reasonable Lol

    @TheRealPBarry How is the murdoch666 turrets going by the way. Still walk down the street and randomly holler out murdoch to people? @auspol

  69. Des Deskperson

    ‘MEDIA personalities Andrew Denton and Jennifer Byrne are believed to have forked out $4.025 million for a penthouse in Sydney?s inner-city Surry Hills nine days ago.’

    Last year the SMH ran a laudatory article on Denton who was out on the streets of Sydney selling the Big Issue for a day, not only selling it but getting in people’s faces and confronting them about homelessness.

    I remember wondering at the time how much Denton was worth and whether, rather than bouncing about showcasing his compassion and boasting to his Fairfax mates, it would have been better for him to have quietly donated, say, one million, to an appropriate homeless charity.

    This makes me wonder even more. Of course, it’s possible that Denton does donate large sums quietly to homeless and other charities, but if so, I think we would have been told about it by now.

  70. H B Bear

    Paul Barry should be on some kind of medication for his Murdochophobia. I hope Mark Scott doesn’t cut the OH&S budget.

  71. JC

    This makes me wonder even more. Of course, it’s possible that Denton does donate large sums quietly to homeless and other charities, but if so, I think we would have been told about it by now.

    If he does and I very much doubt it, because leftwingers are the biggest scrooges on the planet, you should think of it as a welfare payment anyway because it’s government money he would be handing out.

  72. Peter from SA

    Surely then they committed fraud in obtaining their loans as well? “Dole bludger” isn’t a job.

    Stop being culturally insensitive.

  73. Steve

    “The role of the infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground, to repel attack, by night or day, regardless of season, weather or terrain.” How long ago was that?

    Still is.

  74. feelthebern

    ‘MEDIA personalities Andrew Denton and Jennifer Byrne are believed to have forked out $4.025 million for a penthouse in Sydney?s inner-city Surry Hills nine days ago.’

    Dumb timing.
    Now’s the time to be feeding the ducks.
    They’re quacking ever so loudly.

  75. This makes me wonder even more. Of course, it’s possible that Denton does donate large sums quietly to homeless and other charities, but if so, I think we would have been told about it by now.

    Of course.

    After all, there’s no point donating millions of dollars quietly if you can’t then tell everyone about it afterwards.

  76. JC

    Can someone help me with this question. Seeing it hasn’t warmed for the past 20 years or so the gerbillers have been peddling ocean acidification. They reckon that sea water acidity has moved steadily up over the past 200 years. What instruments were people using 100- 200 years ago to measure minute changes in sea water acidity though? Anyone know.

  77. stackja

    feelthebern
    #1518252, posted on November 20, 2014 at 2:20 pm
    ‘MEDIA personalities Andrew Denton and Jennifer Byrne are believed to have forked out $4.025 million for a penthouse in Sydney?s inner-city Surry Hills nine days ago.’

    Dumb timing.
    Now’s the time to be feeding the ducks.
    They’re quacking ever so loudly.

    How much was tax-payers money?

  78. C.L.

    … leftwingers are the biggest scrooges on the planet …

    Joe Biden’s donations record was publicised a few years ago.

    He gave, like, $220 to charity in that year.

  79. C.L.

    JC, I’m assuming they measure pre-modern oceanic acid in ice cores.

  80. notafan

    Deposits of $750,000 over three years. I guess he/she wasn’t working as say, a checkout chick or trolley pusher then.
    Depositing quarter a million in cash per annum, presumably after living expenses; would be nice to know what kind of work/business gives that kind of net return.

    I expect the MSM will be all over this when it goes to court. TDT loves this type of story (usually)

  81. Peter from SA

    JC, I’m assuming they measure pre-modern oceanic acid in ice cores.

    Must be like looking for yellow snow?

  82. feelthebern

    What instruments were people using 100- 200 years ago to measure minute changes in sea water acidity though? Anyone know.

    Don’t they use core samples from ice & then extrapolate out the numbers.
    Its 4 parts voodoo, 1 part science.
    Its called the swampie martini.

  83. JC

    JC, I’m assuming they measure pre-modern oceanic acid in ice cores.

    True, but that would be looking to measure changes over furlongs of time and essentially would tell them zip other than being a scientific curiosity.

    However, we always get told how ocean acidification has been steadily increasing over the past 100 200 years. How the fuck would they know that?

  84. Shelley

    It was reported one of the women arrested over that bashing was 38, and I think I heard that the man was also in his mid thirties. What the hell?

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “The role of the infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground, to repel attack, by night or day, regardless of season, weather or terrain.” How long ago was that?

    Still is.

    Had that idea, it’s my response to those who make jokes about go into the Army after having your genitalia lopped off.

  86. feelthebern

    How the fuck would they know that?

    Bob Brown farted it & so it came to be.
    This is the word of the green lord.
    Amen.

  87. feelthebern

    It was reported one of the women arrested over that bashing was 38, and I think I heard that the man was also in his mid thirties. What the hell?

    Maybe we should lay off.
    Its clear they were abused by the clergy, are from a minority background, are new Australians that are not coping with the adjustment to their new home &/or also victims of climate injustice.

  88. It was reported one of the women arrested over that bashing was 38, and I think I heard that the man was also in his mid thirties. What the hell?

    Drugs.

    Drugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugs.

  89. JC

    Oh okay, got it. It’s a model of course. How could I possibly not know that.

    Scientists looked at changes in the saturation level of aragonite, a form of calcium carbonate used to measure ocean acidification.

    As seawater acidity rises, the saturation level of aragonite falls.

    Direct observations only date back 30 years, which is not long enough to reveal a meaningful trend.

    However the new research used simulations of ocean and climate conditions going back 21,000 years to the Last Glacial Maximum and forward in time to the end of the 21st century.

    In several key coral reef regions aragonite saturation is already five times below its lowest pre-industrial range, according to the model.

    This translates to a decrease in overall calcification rates of corals and other shell-forming organisms of 15%, scientists at the university believe.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2090253/Oceans-acidified-200-years-did-previous-21-000-years-claims-new-climate-change-research.html#ixzz3JZmj30IL
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  90. JC

    It was reported one of the women arrested over that bashing was 38, and I think I heard that the man was also in his mid thirties. What the hell?

    Drugs.

    Drugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugs.

    Nope. It’s personal choice.

  91. Nope. It’s personal choice.

    Yes, that’s right.

    Personal choice to take drugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugs and spend all your welfare money on them, so you become a violent and opportunistic thief with no conscience.

    I couldn’t agree more.

  92. JC

    Wodge Watch

    Archimedes stuck thought.

    rog

    Thinking about it a bit more; after watching Turnbull deflect criticism on QandA I think that the only reason that they are “sticking their head in the sand” over fossil fuels is that they believe that it’s either prosperity or war and that the price of peace will be a warmer world.

    Wodge is correct of of course. At the last cabinet meeting the ministers thought long and hard about it and realized the choice was coal or war, so they chose war coal.

    He really deserves deportation.

  93. It was reported one of the women arrested over that bashing was 38, and I think I heard that the man was also in his mid thirties. What the hell?

    Oh hang on. I’m quite wrong.

    They’re nice white English-speaking middle-class people, both of whom have good jobs. But sadly, this fortnight they spent all their salary this week on their kids’ child-care fees and the electricity bill and filling up the Landcruiser with the city tyres on it. This left no money to cover the mortgage payments.

    So really, what other option was there for them but to watch an old man take out lots of money from an autoteller, and then bash him and rob him?

  94. JC

    Philippa

    Drugs didn’t make them bash an old bloke.

  95. feelthebern

    WTF is wrong with this country.
    The only thing going for it is coal.
    In 100 years, the left will try re-write history to say they were never anti coal.
    Just like they are trying to re-write history to say they were never behind the white Australia policy.

  96. srr


    French surgeons successfully operate on 20-week fetus to correct spina bifida

    French surgeons have successfully operated on a fetus in its mother’s womb – for the first time in the country. They have corrected a defect which could lead to the baby’s legs being paralyzed – a procedure available in only a dozen hospitals worldwide.

    I haven’t seen this news featuring on any of our Main Stream News Sources yet.

    No wonder Victorian and other Emily’s List Anti-social Media, attacking, castrated watchdogs are so keen to constantly demand cats boycott all news sources they haven’t approved and recommended.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    Drugs.

    Drugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugs.

    Thank God they are illegal then or frail pensioners would be bashed.

  98. Shelley

    No doubt drugs. I was just a bit shocked at their ages – not really sure why that should be a shock though. Poor old bloke – he will likely go downhill mentally and physically far more quickly than he otherwise would have as a result.

  99. feelthebern

    Drugs didn’t make them bash an old bloke.

    Correct.
    It was Tony Abbott’s fault.

  100. Infidel Tiger

    WTF is wrong with this country.
    The only thing going for it is coal.

    It also has departure lounges. That’s pretty excellent to know. They will only be getting busier too.

  101. JC

    So shelley

    if you believe it was drugs that caused to bash the old bloke, you obviously believe they will succeed with a temporary insanity defense, right? I mean, that is the only outcome.

  102. Shelley

    …or alcohol, and money for same, or the thrill of being vicious thugs. They were very brave I thought, you know picking someone of their equal and all.

  103. stackja

    JC
    #1518277, posted on November 20, 2014 at 2:40 pm
    Philippa

    Drugs didn’t make them bash an old bloke.

    Left excuse makers say that bashing an old bloke is because of their alienation by society.

  104. feelthebern

    Australia is only good if you want to live off government cheese in a van down by the river.

    H/t Chris Farley.

  105. Leo G

    What instruments were people using 100- 200 years ago to measure minute changes in sea water acidity though?

    Acid-base indicators have been in use since the mid 17th century but there was no basis for quantitative measurements of alkalinity before 1889. Beckman pH meters were first produced in the mid to late 1930s.

  106. Shelley

    JC
    If not drugs, alcohol, just lost a job or whatever…then they will plead mental impairment or deprived something or other. They may not necessarily succeed in a lower penalty – dependent on the judge – but lawyers would give it a red hot go.

  107. JC

    Acid-base indicators have been in use since the mid 17th century but there was no basis for quantitative measurements of alkalinity before 1889. Beckman pH meters were first produced in the mid to late 1930s.

    Yes, but to measure minute changes?

  108. Bear Necessities

    MEDIA personalities Andrew Denton and Jennifer Byrne are believed to have forked out $4.025 million for a penthouse in Sydney?s inner-city Surry Hills nine days ago.

    They wouldn’t feel any discomfort getting (taking) money from the taxpayer. They think that they are so intelligent and enlightened that they are entitled to it.

  109. JC

    Left excuse makers say that bashing an old bloke is because of their alienation by society.

    Oh okay, the Keysar Trad excuse.

  110. srr

    WTF is wrong with this country.
    The only thing going for it is coal.

    Actually there is very little wrong with country and nothing wise, modern science and engineering can’t fix.

    It has far more than coal.
    It has every blessing promised to man. That fact ensured that every evil turd at war with God, is going hell for leather to prove His promises broken; itself evidence of the warning that He does keep all His promises.

    Remember, for thousands of years their have been populations of millions in nation states of deserts, jungles, shaking crumbling mountains and small islands, that the worst that of Australia’s climates and terrain’s, are perfectly mild and productive in comparison with…and that’s before the wise and just men get on with their engineering to improve everything.

  111. Tom

    the new research used simulations of ocean and climate conditions

    There’s absolutely no way data creating a pre-determined outcome would be fed into a “simulation” just as there’s no way a pre-determined outcome would be fed into a climate “model”.

  112. A Lurker

    This came through my Facebook newsfeed from the NSW Police Force.

    Today is Transgender Day of Remembrance, a global day to remember those who’ve been killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice. ‘Transgender’ is an umbrella term covering many diverse identities and expressions of gender including anyone who lives, has lived or wants to live as a member of a different gender.

    This world has become too weird for me.

  113. Grigory M

    they will plead mental impairment or deprived something or other. They may not necessarily succeed in a lower penalty – dependent on the judge – but lawyers would give it a red hot go.

    Aboriginality will get them off scot free. The thug looked like he fancied himself, the way he danced around after king-hitting the old bloke. If he does get gaol time, the screws should close the gym and leave him without protection in the exercise yard.

  114. Infidel Tiger

    Today is Transgender Day of Remembrance, a global day to remember those who’ve been killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice. ‘Transgender’ is an umbrella term covering many diverse identities and expressions of gender including anyone who lives, has lived or wants to live as a member of a different gender.

    Are we at the peak yet?

  115. Leo G

    Yes, but to measure minute changes?

    Once acidity was definined in terms of hydrogen ion concentration, titration against standard solutions using indicators was practical. The method was in widespread use by the start of the twentieth century.

  116. Des Deskperson

    ‘You just described the basis for one of the worst Australian movies ever..’

    Worse, Mole, than ‘Mullet”??

    ‘A dark-sheep type of man returns to his hometown after a prolonged absence. While he’s been gone ludicrous rumours have spread about his whereabouts. Is he a big footy player or is he a film star. Turns out he’s still the same lovable but not likable sort of fellow he was when he left. He wants his old girlfriend back even though she is married to his brother now and is pregnant. For money he nets in mullets (hence his nickname, Mullet) but no’one wants to buy them. People begin to get sick of him being back again and become hostile, telling him to leave again.’

    One critic – unusually honest for an Australian reviewing an Australian film – suggested that the average episode of ‘Home and Away’ had more depth and intelligence, as well as being better made and acted. It starred Ben Mendlesohn who, when he was the subject of an episode of ‘Where do You Think You Come From’, seemed to be some sort of simpleton.

  117. goatjam

    This world has become too weird for me.

    I’m sure there were more than a few Romans around the 6th century who thought much the same thing.

    Why Celebrity Chefs Herald The End Of Empire

    Have you ever contemplated why the West has witnessed an increasing obsession with food, cooking, and celebrity chefs?

    Or why we are obsessed with sports, and why sportsmen who once held regular jobs through the week, are now celebrities earning millions?

    A multi award-winning new documentary explores the end of empires, the signs of those times, and how it has come to be that the modern day Four Horsemen again ride roughshod over the people who can least afford it.

  118. Tom

    I’m posting this so that the Clown Prince’s direct quotes are on the record at the Cat:

    FAIRFAX boss Greg Hywood has declared the media group is in good shape as it continues to focus on expanding its digital business.

    Mr Hywood said while Fairfax had made some missteps, it had now paid off all of its debt, expanded its online readership and subscriptions, and was looking for growth opportunities.

    “The company is in really good shape,” he told the Publish conference on Thursday.

    “It’s not conventional wisdom that it’s in good shape, but it is in really great shape*.”

    The company in 2012 announced plans to axe more than 1,900 jobs, shut printing presses and shift its Sydney Morning Herald and The Age mastheads to compact size in the biggest shake-up of its history.

    Fairfax’s losses blew out to $2.73 billion in 2011/12.

    The company swung back into the black with a $224m profit in 2013/14.

    Mr Hywood said he still believed the company’s print business had a long future**.

    “There is a large audience and a rusted on audience.”

    *Advertising revenue at the main mastheads is collapsing at the rate of 25% p.a., but trust me; what could possibly go wrong.

    ** Print circulation is collapsing at the rate of about 20% p.a; the print circulations at ShakeMyHamas and Mexican Pravda will both pass through the critical 100,000 mark on their way down in the next year; less than five years ago, they each sold around 180,000 copies per weekday.

  119. thefrollickingmole

    Infidel Tiger

    Nope, long way to go before we are even around the s-bend, teenagers in 20 years will remember this as the good old days of relative normality as “2 spirit otherkin trans species kindergarten teachers instruct pre schoolers on advanced bondage methods and alternate uses of B1 and B2 and a tub of olive oil.

  120. C.L.

    Today is Transgender Day of Remembrance, a global day to remember those who’ve been killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice.

    LOL.

  121. Aboriginality will get them off scot free. The thug looked like he fancied himself, the way he danced around after king-hitting the old bloke. If he does get gaol time, the screws should close the gym and leave him without protection in the exercise yard.

    If all the money that was meant for food, clothing and rent has been spent something that’s essentially a luxury item that most people would pay for out of their disposable income – like drugs, tattoo, tobacco, alcohol, gambling, your mobile phone plan – then the only option is to steal from people.

    Isn’t it?

    So JC, you are right in that drugs didn’t make anyone do this, but the fact that the money was spent on them, instead of on the things that needed actual money spent on them.

    The trouble is that among certain long-term welfare recipients, there is a mentality that all income is disposable income. This includes the Byron Bay hipsters whose parents pay their rent and the dole takes care of the rest.

  122. thefrollickingmole

    Des Deskperson

    Yeah, less plausible story.

    Highly paid bloke loses his job and is destitute by the next day… even has jack Thompson chewing scenery as a loveable tramp… you cant sink much lower than that.

  123. Today is Transgender Day of Remembrance, a global day to remember those who’ve been killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice.

    Good. Someone ring up Julie Burchill and tell her to stop killing transgender people with her words of hate and alienation.

    But be sure to record the response, because it will be well worth hearing.

  124. C.L.

    But with only three dollars to his name Eddie will be faced with a choice that will change the direction of his life forever.

    And his wife is a “passionate academic.”

    Ahahahahahaha.

    Buy a bullet, Eddie.

  125. Highly paid bloke loses his job and is destitute by the next day… even has jack Thompson chewing scenery as a loveable tramp… you cant sink much lower than that.

    Could happen. A lot of people are living from one payday to the next, but that’s because they spend too much money.

    (oh dear – here come the thought police to take me away. Again.)

    But Jack Thompson as a loveable tramp – oh my prophetic soul. Why are all tramps in movies loveable, and the real-life ones so utterly objectionable and free from whimsey and homespun wisdom?

  126. thefrollickingmole

    C.L.

    If you watch this movie all the way through then whipping and dropping in a vat of molten rock salt would still be a mercy for what “Eddie” has put you through.

    It has every left/ABC cliché strapped to it..

  127. thefrollickingmole

    Philippa Martyr

    Yeah but this bloke is supposed to smart with a smart wife, not a mining bogan….

  128. notafan

    Another reason why I rarely read modern Australian fiction.
    Amoral, leftie themed crap. I would rather eat frothing garden snails than read ‘The Slap’ for example.

    Elliot Perlman the author of ‘Three Dollars’

  129. srr


    ACCC launches court action against CFMEU for Boral secondary boycott

    The competition watchdog has launched court action against the construction union for allegedly organising boycotts of Boral concrete in Melbourne.

    … but yeah, go on, keep telling everyone that Victorians must punish Credlin/Abbott & Napthine, by putting the CMFEU/Labor back in Government, Now!

    That’ll learn em to dare get on with things NSW has only been talking about for decades, like building roads, rail, airports etc.

    Go on, grind us to halt, send us backward, and make more homely for all those you can no longer squeeze into Lakemba.

  130. feelthebern

    But Jack Thompson as a loveable tramp

    On Fox last night, he was an American General with an awful Texan accent in Broken Arrow.
    I think that was the last movie that Travolta did before he became morbidly obese.

  131. Brian of Moorabbin

    In the heat of the Ferguson controversy, a complex national debate has boiled over the relationship of the police with black communities around the nation.

    On one side stand critics who say police brutality has become an issue that needs addressing — especially in minority communities. On the other, law and order advocates who believe the problem lies with the cultural problems in the communities themselves and is exacerbated by media outlets with an ideological bias.

    Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn speaks on similar issues in his own community with the kind of passionate authority that comes from a man who has to grapple head-on and first hand with heartbreaking events like the shooting death of a 5-year-old girl in his city.

    In fact, Flynn had just learned a 5-year-old girl had been shot and killed when he addressed reporters after a Fire and Police commission over the death of Dontre Hamilton. The following is a transcript of Chief Flynn’s remarks:

    “Well, I hear a lot of things. Certainly there are some folks in this community that are legitimately grieving, and we’ve heard from them. We heard a lot of people who believe the First Amendment only applies to them, and took great pains to shout down anybody who disagreed with them. Despite my ongoing disagreements with the police union, I’d have to say that their members tonight conducted themselves, I thought, with great restraint given the ad hominem invective that was being unleashed on their ward personally and the police department generally.

    So, you know, this is a controversy, this is a tragedy, I’ve said it over and over again, this is a tragedy for the family, a tragedy for Officer Manney, a tragedy for the community. But I’m not blind to the fact that there’s a lot of people lining up to take advantage of this tragedy to flog their own agendas, and that was clear tonight, as well.

    A reporter then said to him: “You’re accused of saying something to one of the protesters, or one of the people in the stands, who accuses you…”

    “He was making so much noise I have no idea what he was talking about. But, if he feels insulted, too bad.”

    Another reporter asked: “What’s your response to some of the people who thought you were being disrespectful by being on your phone and not being attentive to them?”

    Flynn responds:

    “Well I was on my phone, and yes, that’s true. I was following developments with a 5-year-old little girl sitting on her dad’s lap who just got shot in the head by a drive-by shooting. And if some of the people here gave a good goddamn about the victimization of the people in this community by crime, I’d take some of their invective more seriously.

    The greatest racial disparity in the city of Milwaukee is getting shot and killed. Hello! Eighty percent of my homicide victims every year are African-American. Eighty percent of our aggravated assault victims are African-American. Eighty percent of our shooting victims, who survive their shooting are African-American.

    Now they know all about the last three people who’ve been killed by the Milwaukee Police Department over the course of the last several years. There’s not one of them that can name one of the last three homicide victims we’ve had in this city.

    Now there’s room for everybody to participate in fixing this police department and I’m not pretending we’re without sin. But this community’s at risk all right. And it’s not because men and women in blue risk their lives protecting it. It’s at risk because we have large numbers of high-capacity, quality firearms in the hands of remorseless criminals who don’t care who they shoot.

    I’m leaving here to go to that scene… and I take it personally, okay? We’re going there and there’s a bunch of cops up there processing the scene of a dead kid. And they’re the ones who are going to be out there patrolling and stopping suspects who may have guns under the front seat. They’re the ones who are going to risk their lives to clean this thing up. Alright?

    We’re responsible for the things we get wrong and we take action. We’ve arrested cops, we’ve fired cops, and so on. But, the fact is, that the people out here, some of them, who had the most to say, are absolutely MIA when it comes to the true threats facing this community. And it gets a little tiresome, when you start getting yelled at for reading the updates of the kid who get shot… yeah, you take it personal. So, no offense, I’m going up there now.

    Hamilton was a mentally ill man shot to death by Officer Christopher Manney. Chief Flynn later fired Manney.

    There’s a lesson here that’s easily applicable to the fire of national opinion that rages in Ferguson. It has something to do with realizing there’s an enemy we have in common and seeing the humanity in our opponents so that one day — when the smoke clears — we might be able to recognize each other again.

    Click the link to watch the video of Chief Flynn’s press conference.

  132. Rabz

    The trouble is that among certain long-term welfare recipients, there is a mentality that all income is disposable income.

    Hence the squealing about “income management” of long term welfare beneficiaries taxpayer transfers.

    BTW, the lowlifes who bashed the old man are just like tens hundreds of thousands of other stinking, illiterate, innumerate, unemployable, drug, alcohol and welfare dependent labor voting scumbags infesting cities and towns across the country – we’ve all encountered them throughout our lives.

    They did it because they thought they could get away with it – an old man being an easy target and all.

    And as far as I’m concerned, lengthy and extremely painful punishment administered in a very public and easily accessible venue is the least they deserve.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    Mr Hywood said while Fairfax had made some missteps, it had now paid off all of its debt, expanded its online readership and subscriptions, and was looking for growth opportunities.

    “The company is in really good shape,” he told the Publish conference on Thursday.

    “It’s not conventional wisdom that it’s in good shape, but it is in really great shape*.”

    It sure is:

    To further sour the picture, more girls are sexually active in their mid teens and nearly a quarter of women still experience sexual coercion. Another statistic irritated like an itch at first and then seemed to epitomise, perhaps even explain, the partial, decidedly unfinished, nature of this “feminist model” of sexuality. Less than half of all women aged between 16 and 69 said they had masturbated in the past year, and for girls aged between 16 and 19 the figure falls to 30 per cent. By contrast, a resounding – and I suspect conservative – 76 per cent men engaged in self-pleasuring.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-art-of-selfpleasuring-is-in-womens-hands-20141119-11p54g.html#ixzz3Ja2ysFS1

  134. goatjam

    frollickingmole: “Holy snapping duckshit batman…”

    16. Ten years ago, the number of women in the U.S. that had jobs outnumbered the number of women in the U.S. on food stamps by more than a 2 to 1 margin. But now the number of women in the U.S. on food stamps actually exceeds the number of women that have jobs.

    Such is life in a leftist utopia. I guess the whole sisters doing it for themselves thing was always going to be a bridge too far. Julia marries the government indeed.

  135. Slayer of Memes

    Apropos the ‘man’ arrested over the attack on the 86yo pensioner:

    One praises the members of the NSW constabulary for the remarkable care and attention to safety that they showed whilst arresting and transporting said offender; making sure that he didn’t trip over his own feet, walk into doors, stumble into furniture and have phone books fall on him from the top shelf, etc…

  136. Shelley

    I reckon I sat through that Three Dollars movie. Wasn’t he some kind of ecological warrior public servant?

  137. calli

    If I was a copper, I’d do overtime to join the hunt for this turd.

    Two women have been charged already.

    They caught him at a railway station. He was going to Goulburn. The should have escorted him there and saved us the expense of a trial.

  138. Soon was great.

    One of about five genuine fathers of the Australian blogosphere and the sole father of the Australian libertarian blogosphere. He had a few blind spots, bigotry against Christians in the public square being one of them.

    I can’t recall that blind spot largely because I wasn’t sensitive to it back then, but he was great. I hope he’s doing mightily whatever he happens to be doing.

  139. Philippa Martyr

    Yeah but this bloke is supposed to smart with a smart wife, not a mining bogan….

    Wash your mouth out. FIFO chaps and their wives are among the best money managers I’ve ever met, on account of coming largely from the aspirational demographic.

    The ones who are shite with money are the privileged private school->uni->public service types (like me) who have the latest and best of everything in their houses (unlike me), plus have bought a house in a too-expensive area, plus have kids in 5-day a week child care, plus maxed out credit cards, plus the Landrover with the city tyres, plus the mobile devices that are chewing through any leftover money they may have.

    Overstretched. This is why more and more of them are, anecdotally, involved in drive-offs at petrol stations. (This began to increase just after the GFC).

  140. But now the number of women in the U.S. on food stamps actually exceeds the number of women that have jobs.

    And they all vote Democrat. Funny, that.

  141. Shelley

    Off work after having a minor procedure. Taking in daytime tele (abysmal) – but Judge Judy is a shining light. I know it is largely set up entertainment, and those that come before her do so to get a free trial and are generally not too bright, and of course there are the edited out bits we don’t see. But she is a classic. I like the way she says ‘you ate the steak’ to those angling to get some ridiculous payout for goods or a service that they decided later they did not like – or where they did not do their due diligence. Often times the defendant and plaintiff are cut from the same cloth. She always calls them both out.

  142. On Fox last night, he was an American General with an awful Texan accent in Broken Arrow.

    Jack Thompson was an awful old bearded Texan (or something) in Mao’s Last Dancer too.

    I didn’t even recognise him till the credits. He looked like a testicle in a hat.

  143. cynical1

    Thank God they are illegal then or frail pensioners would be bashed.

    Whenever a Government sanctions an activity, expect more of it.

    Single mothers, homo marriage, welfare payments etc.

  144. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Tomorrow is “Gay Tractor Driver of the Year Day ” We might as well gin up all those Cultural Revolution slogans and get them firmly into the 21st century

  145. Infidel Tiger

    Jack Thompson is possible a worse actor than Nicole Kidman.

  146. goatjam

    Judge Judy is the only program worth watching on TV.

  147. feelthebern

    plus have kids in 5-day a week child care, plus maxed out credit cards, plus the Landrover with the city tyres, plus the mobile devices that are chewing through any leftover money they may have

    You forgot to mention Thermomix.

  148. calli

    Judge Judy’s sergeant is a hoot too. A cute twinkle in his eye and shake to the shoulders as he delivers bits of dodgy “evidence” to the bench.

  149. feelthebern

    Jack Thompson is possible a worse actor than Nicole Kidman.

    Shows how much clout scientologists have in Hollywood.

  150. thefrollickingmole

    Philippa Martyr

    Yeah but this bloke is supposed to smart with a smart wife, not a mining bogan…

    That was tongue in cheek aimed at the scrote who wrote the scripts target audience.

    I know some miners who are dead broke every payday but have all the toys.. Even them, most of those blokes are at least paying off a house.

    Plenty more who have multiple properties and set for life after 10 years though.

    Shelley

    Rings a bell, but it was an evil corporate type that sacked him, and I seem to remember workchoices geitting a mention..

  151. Tom

    Eddie’s shaking in his boots about the shame of the community service order the NSW judiciary will mete out:

    FORMER Labor factional king pin Eddie Obeid has been charged over lobbying for Circular Quay leases for cafes that his family secretary owned.

    He has been charged with misconduct in public office “for actions he took to cause the Maritime Authority of NSW to deal favourably with Circular Quay Restaurants Pty Ltd, a company of which his family was the effective owner, regarding the company’s restaurant tenancies at Circular Quay.”

    This follows an Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry which found him guilty of corrupt conduct over the leases.

    A court attendance notice says that in 2007 Obeid did “wilfully misconduct himself” by inducing a senior officer at the Maritime Authority of NSW Steve Dunn to deal favourably with his company.

    Mr Obeid has previously dared the DPP to charge him, saying he would welcome the chance to clear his name in a court.

    “Wilful misconduct in office”. LOL.

    Putting ICAC in his pocket was the best investment Eddie ever made.

  152. Cold-Hands

    Acid-base indicators have been in use since the mid 17th century but there was no basis for quantitative measurements of alkalinity before 1889. Beckman pH meters were first produced in the mid to late 1930s.

    Yes, but to measure minute changes?

    Apparently oceanographers are deriving historical ocean pHs by working backwards from historical atmospheric COs.

    Ocean acidification. Claims have been made that oceanic pH levels have declined from ~8.2 to ~8.1 since the mid-1700?s. This pH decline (acidification) has been attributed to anthropogenic CO2 emissions – This should come as no surprise because the pH estimates are largely derived from atmospheric CO2 concentrations (Orr et al., 2005).

  153. Cold-Hands

    Where’s the Wednesday Open fred?

  154. Andrew

    The trouble is Andrew, that it is only “wildly popular” amongst people who have not yet been forced to purchase it.

    Correctamundo – it was only connected to 0.9% of homes I believe at election time. And of the few people it passed, 90% didn’t even want it. Unfortunately, almost 100% of adults vote. If A666 had said “No NBN” he would have lost the election.

    Come 3 years, when the rollout increases from 1% to 50% and it’s shit, you’re telling me people are THAT stupid that he will be blamed and they will vote for ALP because of the horrible NBN?

  155. calli

    Bogan Hunters…oh, the mulletude!

  156. blogstrop

    Hywood: “There is a large audience and a rusted on audience.”

    That’s some pretty flaky rust Fairfax has there. Bits of it have been falling by the wayside for some years.

  157. Leo G

    Apparently oceanographers are deriving historical ocean pHs by working backwards from historical atmospheric COs

    Deriving ocean surface pH by inference of modelled Ocean-atmosphere gas exchange which in turn uses assumed past values of atmospheric trace gases and hypothetical atmospheric chemistry conditions is not measurement.

  158. Grigory M

    Jack Thompson is possible a worse actor than Nicole Kidman.

    Hard to believe – but probably true.

  159. Tom

    The graph that the Fucktard Media Industrial Complex mislaid last weekend while genuflecting to the deity in Brisbane. (Worth another run after being posted by the Doomlord at the Cat last Friday).

    It really is a mental illness.

  160. Des Deskperson

    According to Notafan’s link, ‘Three Dollars’ author Perlman:

    ‘… was called to the Bar in 1997, but while working as a judge’s associate in the early 1990s he started writing short stories, and won ‘The Age’ short story competition in 1994

    So he’s opposed to economic rationalism – which means presumably that he supports big government and higher taxes – but got his break while working in a cushy tax-payer funded job. Wonder if he did any of his writing in the taxpayer’s time using the taxpayer’s resources.

  161. custard

    The hate in full swing at the Drum poll:

    How do you rate Australia’s performance as president of the UN Security Council?

    Poor 31%
    Average 27%
    Good 20%
    Excellent 15%
    Unsure 7%
    169 votes counted

  162. Grigory M

    Deriving ocean surface pH by inference of modelled Ocean-atmosphere gas exchange which in turn uses assumed past values of atmospheric trace gases and hypothetical atmospheric chemistry conditions is not measurement.

    Seemingly, actual measurement since circa 1980: USEPA- Ocean Acidity

    Measurements made over the last few decades have demonstrated that ocean carbon dioxide levels have risen in response to increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, leading to an increase in acidity (that is, a decrease in pH) (see Figure 1).

  163. Rabz

    Your taxes at work, peoples – Doug “mind mah tea” Cameron speaks:

    The problem we have—and we have seen it in New South Wales—is that big business and the big banks have huge influence on the coalition—a massive influence. You have just seen what happened in Newcastle, where the rich business people drive up in their Bentley, the coalition politician jumps into the passenger seat and the rich driver of the Bentley hands over the brown paper bag full of money to get influence with the politician. That is what is happening with this mob now …

    The lunacy and hypocrisy is no doubt detectable from space. That’s from yesterday’s senate hansard, BTW, where those preposterous mangy parasites spent the entire day screeching at each other over such important matters as the FOFA legislation and Fat Clive’s senate inquiry in Cockhead Newman’s government, culminating in a lengthy harangue on WW1 monodroned by that loathsome soviet harridan Doris Bagshawe.

    The place needs a good hard dose of the Mantra™, as far as I’m concerned – it’s a frigging Zoo.

  164. custard

    ABC (former) Managing Director Mark Scott at senate estimates tonight from 6.00pm according to sneerer-in-chief

    https://twitter.com/GreenJ

    View at aph.gov.au (watch parliament)

  165. srr

    Mental Illness implies they know not what they do.

    That’s only more lying leftist forked tongues building themselves a protective wall of poisonous sharp barbs, to kill off those who come too close to assailing them with the deadly truth.

    The enemy that’s crushing the just, is not removed from reason.
    That enemies reasons that all who willingly, knowingly join in legion with their mortal enemy, are begging and deserving of the greatest betrayal – the second and permanent death.

  166. cohenite

    Deriving ocean surface pH by inference of modelled Ocean-atmosphere gas exchange which in turn uses assumed past values of atmospheric trace gases and hypothetical atmospheric chemistry conditions is not measurement.

    Any hindcasting about prior ocean pH is confounded by tectonic recycling of the oceans, which is ongoing and has occurred about times in geological history.

  167. Just lurking.

    I love a good lurk. Matterofact, I’m doing it now!

  168. Slayer of Memes

    The problem we have—and we have seen it in New South Wales—is that big business and the big banks have huge influence on the coalition—a massive influence. You have just seen what happened in Newcastle, where the rich business people drive up in their Bentley, the coalition politician jumps into the passenger seat and the rich driver of the Bentley hands over the brown paper bag full of money to get influence with the politician. That is what is happening with this mob now …

    Interestingly, the only thing similar to this that I’ve seen (or heard of) in NSW involves the unions, ALP, and Eddie Obeid… as per evidence of same at both the NSW ICAC hearings *AND* the TURC.

    If Senator Cameron has evidence of the Libs doing the same thing, I trust he is going to present it at ICAC, TURC, or (at the very least) to either the NSW Police Force or AFP for investigation.

    Or was it a case of ‘hyperbowl’ (as Jules might have put it), and Senator Cameron was merely indulging in a little bit of smear politics that he will never be called to account for due to ‘parliamentary priviledge’…

  169. .

    So Dougie was it rich Liberal voters in Bentlys (perhaps like a wealthy rapper pretending to be “gangsta” after an elite private school education) who smashed the back of your car in, or was it real world gangsters such as union heavies?

    Don’t answer – we already know, Doooogie.

  170. Leo G

    Measurements made over the last few decades have demonstrated that ocean carbon dioxide levels have risen in response to increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, leading to an increase in acidity.

    True, but keep in mind that the oceans are well buffered and the buffering depends on circulation and diffusion processes. The sensitivity of ocean pH to changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide will reduce over time.

  171. MartinG

    C.L.
    #1518259, posted on November 20, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    JC, I’m assuming they measure pre-modern oceanic acid in ice cores.

    As far as I’m aware, there are no ocean ice cores of over any substantive time. Ice is both viscous and transient.

    Any ice formed in the oceans is seasonal and so melts over short spans of time. Longer lasting ice is formed on land by snow so, due to it’s cumulative nature the weight of the new snow forces the ice below to flatten and push out. This action means any ice formed on land will flow to lower altitudes or be squeezed into the surrounding oceans.

    The only ancient ice cores we have is where the snow has fallen over a deep basin and been trapped.

    Greenland has some basins but the oldest ones are on the Antarctic continent.

    There is no reliable data on the oceans historic pH (acidity) levels because both high low levels are reactive, meaning it depends on the given environmental situation at any given time of the water.

    There are now some ocean surface records of pH but they only go back to the beginning to the measurement capabilities of the satellite era.

    It’s would be extremely difficult, and has not been done yet, to measure historic deep ocean pH conditions. It will come as no surprise to most here that anthropogenic ocean acidification is yet another tiresome lie by the anti-industrialists.

    This is a complex subject because ocean surface water will increase it’s level of dissolved carbon dioxide depending on atmospheric levels but due to temperature, depth of mixing and many other factors it doesn’t necessarily follow this will increase acidity at depth.

  172. cohenite

    Measurements made over the last few decades have demonstrated that ocean carbon dioxide levels have risen in response to increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, leading to an increase in acidity.

    True,

    No, that’s not true; the oceans are not acidic. AR4 WGI states that the mean pH of surface waters ranges between 7.9 and 8.3 in the open ocean. The so-called increase in ocean acidity of 30% since the Industrial Revolution is based on an average of a calculation, from an estimate of anthropogenic CO2 uptake by the oceans, from 1750 to 1994.

    But this 30% or 0.1 on the pH scale is within the range of pHs which exist in the ocean. Research shows that predictions about future acidification are problematic and reconstructions of past ocean pH show today’s pH is unexceptional.

  173. MemoryVault

    If he does get gaol time, the screws should close the gym and leave him without protection in the exercise yard.

    I doubt it will come to that. The pensioner’s name is Frank Carlino. His (married) daughter’s name is Maria Belcastro. Two ancient southern Italian family names. The photos depict them very much as traditional southern Italian/Sicilian.

    Frankie had this to say: “These kind of people are like bums, this is what they do to work, this is what they do to get their money. I’m not angry, I’m humiliated that it could have happened”.

    Frankie feels humiliated, so it is a matter of honour. At 86, of Italian/Sicilian descent, and almost certainly a traditional catholic, Frankie is probably chest deep in adult sons, sons-in-law, grandsons and sons-in-law, nephews, grand-nephews and whatever.

    I went to school with people like this. The best, most loyal friends you could ask for. But if someone sullied their family’s honour, it was a declaration of total war. I wouldn’t be surprised if the low-life that punched Frank never made it to jail. If he does, he will need 24/7 protection.

  174. MemoryVault

    Measurements made over the last few decades have demonstrated that ocean carbon dioxide levels have risen in response to increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, leading to an increase in acidity.

    Will Cats PLEASE stop using the utterly untrue greenfilth, gobbedly gook, non-scientific expression – “ocean acidification” and its variants. Seawater is a heavily buffered alkaline solution. You CANNOT “acidify” an alkaline solution. At best you can make it less alkaline. You especially cannot “acidify” a heavily buffered alkaline solution.

    How buffered is the oceans’ alkalinity? Even if you could reduce all the carbon on this planet to carbon dioxide, and it all dissolved into the oceans (which it can’t), and it remained as carbonic acid (which it wouldn’t), you would only be one-eightieth of the way to rendering the oceans neutral.

  175. Entropy

    Next time some prick starts banging on about ocean acidification, ask them ” so what is the ocean right now, acidic, neutral or alkaline?” I suspect they won’t know, but if they honestly admit it is about 8.0 (alkaline) then ask them if they has been any change to the current alkalinity of the ocean that is greater than natural variation.

  176. Spider

    C.L. #1518113, posted on November 20, 2014 at 12:02 pm
    Pictures of 86 year-old pensioner Frank Carlino’s facial injuries.

    I always felt that if capital punishment were re-introduced the lowlife scumbags who attack the elderly should be at the beginning of the queue. Seriously, If you can attack a helpless older person you are capable of anything.

    I’ll buy the bullet.

  177. Spider

    And I don’t care if you’ve got a drug habit or were abused as a child.

  178. johanna

    I’ve been watching that slimebag Mark Scott at Senate Estimates.

    Our Senators are morons.Notone of them knows how to cross-examine a witness (despite the ubiquity of law degrees in Parliament).

    Some of the questions no-one ever asks:

    Why, when your budget has almost doubled in 10 years, are you claiming hardship?

    Why was it good practice to maintain production facilities in several States 10 years ago when you had much less money, but now it is a terrible idea?

    Why are you only now developing “metrics” to help you to work out your priorities? What were you doing before?

    Why are your staff on industrial agreements which make redundancies staggeringly expensive?

    Why is the option of closing down multiple channels which run nothing but repeats and have tiny ratings not on the table?

    Do you think that the ABC should just keep getting bigger and bigger? What do you see as the limit of the scope of the ABC in the media space?

    These people couldn’t get a five year old to admit to stealing a lolly when he had sticky stuff all over his face.

  179. This is a complex subject because ocean surface water will increase it’s level of dissolved carbon dioxide depending on atmospheric levels but due to temperature, depth of mixing and many other factors it doesn’t necessarily follow this will increase acidity at depth.

    Stop using logic against hyperbole, Marty. You use logic and they use emoshuns, dood! Save your logic for lefty scum who plead for polar bears and shit. We already know it’s bullshit.

  180. stackja

    Spider
    #1518613, posted on November 20, 2014 at 8:08 pm
    C.L. #1518113, posted on November 20, 2014 at 12:02 pm
    Pictures of 86 year-old pensioner Frank Carlino’s facial injuries.

    I always felt that if capital punishment were re-introduced the lowlife scumbags who attack the elderly should be at the beginning of the queue. Seriously, If you can attack a helpless older person you are capable of anything.

    I’ll buy the bullet.

    Save bullets, just put air-tight reusable plastic bag over scum’s head.

  181. Save bullets, just put air-tight reusable plastic bag over scum’s head.

    With holes that aren’t actually holes.

  182. stackja

    Slayer of Memes
    #1518403, posted on November 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Dug Cumeron
    Cameron previously served as the national secretary of the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union. He has a job. How many unionists have lost their jobs because of Dug?

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