Open Forum: Australia Day 2015

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  1. C.L.

    Serious question: Can you hire a machete from Bunnings?
    I need to do some gardening.

    Uh-huh. Some “gardening,” hey.

    Possums out of hand again are they, Gab?

  2. Infidel Tiger

    Sir John Howard must be in the offing.

    A Knighthood for Bob Hawke – services to the yard glass wouldn’t be bad either.

  3. calli

    Because the left know that Abbott knows that to undo, or create a cultural revolution you change the small things. That’s the sin. “Going back”, “taking us back”, there’s nothing more dangerous to them.

    Thanks Twostix. You have articulated my thoughts on the issue much better than I ever could.

    There is another thing that sparks fear in the Leftie…fear of “the same old thing”. Boredom, lack of a daily action bulletin, the possibility that those mild mannered conservatives might just turn on them and…horror…laugh at them.

    We saw all that with RGR, hence the desperation to latch onto any perceived weakness and attack. A walk, a lisp, a piece of clothing…anything.

  4. Gab

    I don’t know what you mean, CL. [insert emoticon with halo and rapid eyelash fluttering]

  5. calli

    Sorry, Gab. I like the gear you pour twostroke and fourstroke into. Call it a weakness… 😀

  6. Gab

    Am sooo adding your bit too, Calli.

  7. Infidel Tiger

    Yeah Abbott needs to come up with his own version of Howard’s “Comfortable and relaxed” quote. Then watch leftie heads explode.

    “White picket fence Australia” will keep them shrieking like bats on a barbie.

  8. Splatacrobat

    Can they give a Knighthood posthumously?
    Sir Gough for giving every man woman and child from ages 1 -100 free education.

  9. Andreas

    Abbott hasn’t apologised.

    Asked if he regretted the decision, Mr Abbott said: “The decision is made. It was made for good reasons and I stand by it.”

    Good that he hasn’t apologised, but not exactly a forceful defence of his decision.

  10. candy

    If Tony Abbott had knighted Richie Benaud it would have gone so much better.

    It would be a kind and fitting gesture, very Australian. Who could complain. Perhaps next year (if Tony Abbott is still in business).

  11. Denise

    Dot, Ellen of Tasmania,

    I’ve been reading LRC for over 12 years because I love Mises’ and Bastiat’s ideas, of which North is a good exponent. I’m not saying North is anti-semitic, but some of the writers on LRC are becoming more and more anti-Israel. I suspect for some it’s a result of their replacement theology. For others it’s taking on board the conspiracy theory that the Jews are the reason for all the trouble in the world.

    Read it yourself – I used to daily – and see if there isn’t an emerging trend. As well as exaggerated claims about the health benefits of the vitamins sold by the two new age ‘naturopaths’ (only their twice-as-expensive products are really efficacious). You’ll get healthy by crossing their palms with silver and they’ll get rich.

    I’ve been disappointed by the general direction LRC is taking now. They seem far more credulous than they were. A bit of Yankee cynicism would do them a lot of good. And some of their anti-government ravings have become really absurd – starting to sound like Alec Jones sometimes.

    Well, perhaps it’s Ok to say caveat emptor to all the dotty old pensioners losing money because of North’s advice – if he’s a Christian which is his claim how is the Lord glorified by that? The assumption is that he’s a better economist because he’s so Biblical and thus able to make better predictions. This concept is very prevalent amongst the theonomists, as they modestly call themselves. Not saying he enriched himself personally at their expense, I’m sure he didn’t – just that if one is going to go out on a limb on giving that sort of advice, perhaps one should be a little more circumspect about possible outcomes.
    Remember all the books written by the Reconstructionists absolutely bagging the ‘pessimillenialists’ as they called the Christians with a futurist eschatology? The fanciful scenarios? Apocalytic hysteria? Date setting? The very things he was guilty of with Y2K. He tripped over a banana skin that he laid there himself. That’s all.

  12. cohenite

    Ach du Lieber. It’s moments like these I actually wish I had a husband, so I could go home and berate him, and then put starch in the washing, thus venting all my rage at the Abbott government upon his long-suffering grundies.

    Me too.

  13. Gab

    You’re a pack of cowards and behaving like Labor when they turned on Rudd, and to some extent, Gillard.

    It certainly is adult to disagree when the Leader of the Party makes the wrong call, in your opinion, but leave the dissension, name-calling and disagreements out of the public eye and keep it in-house; and stop behaving like a bunch of nasty schoolgirls.

    (Just some thoughts on how to sign-off the email to Barnaby and the Libs).

  14. calli

    Here ya go, Gab. But you’ll have to buy.

    I googled in “cane knife” and I’m sure I’ve just been put on a watch list somewhere. I have a magnificent scythe, honed to a razor edge, but youse can’t have a loan. Sorry.

  15. candy

    (Just some thoughts on how to sign-off the email to Barnaby and the Libs).

    Just mentioned that if the Libs do win the next election under Tony Abbott, he won’t forget who said what. Because I’m sure he won’t.

  16. Gab

    Oooh, the last one looks ideal, Calli, however I want it this week and I’ve got a Bunnings down the road so I’m going to spend the $3.67 and get the saw thingy. If it doesn’t work, I’ll inquire about the cane machete.

  17. Gab

    Thanks, Candy.
    Now I must away and compile a list of Liberal’s emails.

  18. incoherent rambler

    Re the Menzies House survey (assume they are all LP voters)

    Did you support the Federal Coalition Government’s decision to increase petrol taxes?

    Running at 31% yes.

    Who thinks more tax is good? FMD

  19. Beef

    If it doesn’t work, I’ll inquire about the cane machete.

    Gab, I bought 3 machetes from an army disposal store, but it was 20 years ago, perhaps if you’ve one close you could have a browse.

  20. Splatacrobat

    Try this one Gab.
    It’s a paving weeding tool. Also works well on zombies in the walking dead or an ALP party room meeting.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Apart from the vagina knitting crowd, who has even mentioned it?

    Wow!
    You can knit a vagina now?
    I did not now that.
    How do you do that?
    Has anyone got a pattern?
    (I assume it is like a sock, only different).

  22. Splatacrobat

    Rays Outdoors have this one.
    Gerber 25″ Gator Machete
    Features & Benefits
    •18 inch fine edge blade
    •High performance saw blade on rear edge
    •Heavy duty riveted nylon sheath

  23. thefrollickingmole

    For machetes ask a Viet..
    Go to an Asian convenience store and you will probably find one, 1/2 the price of anywhere else and will last longer than you will.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    C.L. your opinion please:

    Hot or not?

  25. JC

    All those lending support to Abbott’s Phil Knighthood decision. Forget about it as he walked away too.

    A REPENTANT Tony Abbott has conceded he derailed Campbell Newman’s re-election campaign by appointing Prince Philip a knight of Australia, vowing “considerably more consultation” on future appointments.

    Amid increasing pressure on Mr Abbott and his chief-of-staff, Peta Credlin, Mr Abbott evaded repeated questions about whether or not his senior aide was consulted before the announcement.

  26. Armadillo

    Gab has chosen wisely. That Gator Machete is $77 bucks. Pfftt…and depending on the location of the offending Umberella Tree, how do you know she will have enough room to even swing a machete?

    I’m under pressure now. That wood saw had better damn well do its job.

  27. P

    Calli – Clementine Ford has stolen your avatar

    Uh oh. This ain’t gunna be pretty. Baton down the hatches.

    Hey, I’m no swimm’a but were she slimm’a
    I might’a saved that Clementine.

    Clementine

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Machete?
    Haven’t youse heard about the latest upgrade

  29. Gab

    Thanks for all the suggestions, each one has its own merit but I’m going to stick with Arma’s first pick at $3.67 (no pressure, Arma) and I won;t have time to get it until the weekend.

    ———————————————————————————————-

    Given Abbott has now ‘repented’ I guess there’s no reason to send out the email to all the Libs and Barnaby.

  30. calli

    Holy Cow, Leigh! That’s gotta sting.

  31. Viva

    This should have been redmeat to queen and country conservatives but you could feel their cringing shyness about being laughed at emanating from a mile away in response to the lefts cultural Juggernaut faux mocking it and pointing the mob in conservatives direction:

    Oh please. Even John Howard knows the knights and dames jig is up.

    Supporters of Sir Phil and the monarchy – your slip is showing. We kept being told by you that the current constitutional monarchy set up is all about stability and social cohesion etc etc and that the whole pomp and ceremony British shtick and cultural baggage that goes with it is not the important thing. Yet you think that conservatives should fight in the trenches to win back ground lost when the British Empire went down the tubes. And you really think this would represent a great victory over the Left!

    I’m laughing in contempt at the attempted revival whole creaking machinery of Imperial based honours because I am an Australian conservative living in 2015 and for no other reason. Geez!!!!

  32. Bruce in WA

    Plenty of machetes on Fleabay.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    Seven News reported the cooled three January days for 67 years in Sydney. No mention of global warming.

    If it had been the hottest three days the MSM would have collectively boiled their brains in excitement.

  34. Splatacrobat

    I’d like to see Abbott bring back debutante balls.
    Then see the frightbats explode. Remember always escalate!

  35. Bruce of Newcastle

    Coolest. Spell checker went mad. Fingers didn’t cooperate.

  36. calli

    Given Abbott has now ‘repented’ I guess there’s no reason to send out the email to all the Libs and Barnaby.

    Watching on Seven news…a poll with over 70 percent disapproving of the knighthood.

    The collective on a winning skidmark. Forget mammoth debt caused by the last lit of numpties…these are the little fleabites that disturb Australians.

    And now on Seven, without missing a beat, we have a tribute to Auschwitz survivors.

    How puerile and easily manipulated we have become.

  37. calli

    Lot…anger causes typos.

  38. pete m

    My open letter to the LNP Federal members (Libs and Nats):

    “Dear Honourable Member,

    Disunity is death in politics. You learned that with your first teaspoon of politics on the hustings. You have seen it, experienced it and been part of it. It is true, and yet you persist in repeating this mistake.

    Get back to work on real issues facing this country – the economy, budget blockaid and jobs.

    If you are talking about anything else you are failing to uphold your mandate.

    YF”

  39. Oh come on

    ahahahahahhaaha even from beyond the Immi portfolio grave, Sir Morro is #winning

  40. thefrollickingmole

    A touching tale of true love conquering all…

    This is why i tend to leave Fry and his toy boy alone.

    ‘It’s nice to live a luxury life, but money’s not important,’ claims former Playboy model, 25, as she reveals why she fell for 82-year-old billionaire

    She said: ‘I have a good teacher as he has been married four times before.
    ‘I dated a lot of young boys – they are only looking out for themselves. They like football and many women.
    ‘I have a lot of fun with him (but also)I have a six-year-old daughter to look after – I need a man.’

  41. Oh come on

    According to the ABC, the Indian country shoppers will have to pay costs of their failed High Court challenge. FMD Julian Burnside is going to have to call up Rose Hancock and see if he can convince her to sue Gina again!

  42. Leigh Lowe

    It seems that Bill de Blasio’s exhortations to build a ark or summink might have been a slight exaggeration.
    His predictions of Mont Blanc in Manhattan turned out to be what we call here in Victoria ” … and for Mount Donna Buang – no skiing, sightseeing only”
    Interesting that the climate scaredy cats were in the Oz today linked to a story about Marrickville Council divesting it’s $15 million deposits in the Big Four banks because …. coal.
    Whoopee do!!
    The accompanying report said that there would be less cyclones in future but they would be more intense.
    Hmmm … I remember when the climate numpties were predicting more cyclones but got called on that one.
    What is the basis for the latest predictions of less cyclones but of higher intensity?
    I suspect it is because we can all count but very few of us have our own weather stations.

  43. Dan

    Leigh Lowe
    #1583447, posted on January 28, 2015 at 6:03 pm
    Apart from the vagina knitting crowd, who has even mentioned it?

    Wow!
    You can knit a vagina now?
    I did not now that.
    How do you do that?
    Has anyone got a pattern?
    (I assume it is like a sock, only different).

    The Velvet Glove. A term used extensively in Rugby Songs

  44. Leigh Lowe

    At Bunnings – Ryobi One+ 18V Cordless Chainsaw.

    Nup, no cigar.
    As Calli said, if it don’t run on hydrocarbons it ain’t worth having.

  45. Oh come on

    Grigory M
    #1582593, posted on January 27, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    tl;dr

  46. Dan

    Electricity to charge the device comes from coal

  47. calli

    On the easily manipulated theme….remember when our dams will never fill again and “even the rain that falls will never fill them”.

    Warragamba is at 87.9 percent.

  48. Grigory M

    Ryobi One+ 18V Cordless Chainsaw Demo 1

    Ryobi One+ 18V Cordless Chainsaw Demo 2

    Horses for courses. Will kill a rubber tree easily. Definitely wins a cigar 🙂

  49. rebel with cause

    FMD this country is a toilet. Current Affair – apparently dad is a terrible person cause he lets his 11 year old son muck around on his bike outside with a friend while he has a drink at the pub.

  50. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ash’s Evil Dead chainsaw wins hands down.

  51. calli

    Nope no cigar. Nothing to light it with.

  52. Jessie

    Rubbish

    Hire a chainsaw from a libertarian…….

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    Greeks have stopped paying taxes again*.

    Greek coalition braces for debt showdown as Germany rattles sabre

    Tax revenues have collapsed as Greeks preempt what they hope will be a repeal of austerity taxes. “There is only €1.9bn left in the cash kitty, and the government has spending costs of $2.5bn coming up. Somebody needs to lend the country money soon,” said Megan Greene, from Manulife Asset Management.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard thinks Syria will run out of money in late February. Stock up on popcorn.

    * If you’ve read the Vanity Fair article you’ll know this is not an unusual thing.

  54. Because the left know that Abbott knows that to undo, or create a cultural revolution you change the small things. That’s the sin. “Going back”, “taking us back”, there’s nothing more dangerous to them.

    Thanks Twostix. You have articulated my thoughts on the issue much better than I ever could.

    There is another thing that sparks fear in the Leftie…fear of “the same old thing”. Boredom, lack of a daily action bulletin, the possibility that those mild mannered conservatives might just turn on them and…horror…laugh at them.

    Yeah, nah. There is no cultural revolution taking place in Australia under the Abbott government.

    A cultural revolution would have involved repealing Section 18C, for starters.

    And then axing the vast swathes of middle-class welfare upon which we’ve all become so dependent.

    And running ads telling people that it’s actually better for everyone when the Government leaves the money in your pocket to start with.

    And closing down or privatising the ABC.

    Now that’s a cultural revolution.

  55. FMD this country is a toilet. Current Affair – apparently dad is a terrible person cause he lets his 11 year old son muck around on his bike outside with a friend while he has a drink at the pub.

    Oh no, rebel with cause – we’re in the middle of the great Abbott cultural revolution. Let a hundred flowers bloom. Let a hundred dads with Australian flags attached to their utes roam the land with their offspring, free from all leftie reproach and name-calling.

    And to think all this became possible because we gave Phil the Greek a knighthood.

    Happy times.

  56. john constantine

    squalid aly on his ‘project your inner rage’ soapbox, having a go at old australias derryn hinch.

    Stood 30 seconds of it, as squalid went tribal at hinch, lecturing him that just because the australians opposing the death penalty for australian drug smugglers weren’t complaining about indonesians being executed, didn’t mean that they didn’t care about the progressively correct things to care about.

    Imagine your kids having him turned loose on them at university.

  57. jumpnmcar

    Rebel

    FMD this country is a toilet. Current Affair-……………

    How about ” The Media in this beautiful County is a lump of shit that’s staining the rest of us ” ?

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    Syriza not Syria. Spellchecker again. Grr.

  59. thefrollickingmole

    an 11 year old on a bike… where is childrens services?

    And a grown man drinking beer AT A PUB!! thats probably equivalent to raping a baby seal with a cactus or something on the wowser totem pole.

  60. Anne

    Finally!!!

    Obama is called for the treasonous mongrel he is.

    “And it is also true that Obama has been purging anyone who speaks of the jihad threat or seeks to oppose it. It is clear. It’s treachery at the most senior level.”

    http://pamelageller.com/2015/01/former-defense-intel-chief-blows-the-whistle-on-obama.html/

  61. squalid aly on his ‘project your inner rage’ soapbox, having a go at old australias derryn hinch.

    Stood 30 seconds of it, as squalid went tribal at hinch, lecturing him that just because the australians opposing the death penalty for australian drug smugglers weren’t complaining about indonesians being executed, didn’t mean that they didn’t care about the progressively correct things to care about.

    Imagine your kids having him turned loose on them at university.

    And a grown man drinking beer AT A PUB!! thats probably equivalent to raping a baby seal with a cactus or something on the wowser totem pole.

    Oh no, chaps. We’re in the middle of the great Abbott government cultural revolution. Haven’t you gotten the memo?

    Ach du Lieber once more. I think I’ll go home and deep-fry something.

  62. thefrollickingmole

    Oh and from my last littel piss up session with my copper mate where we had a ball with the skimpies on shift..

    “I could be disciplined for being here”..

    So arseless chaps/mardi gras, good. Down to the pub with skimpies on after work and out of uniform, bringing the service into disrepute.

  63. Lem

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard thinks Syriza will run out of money in late February. Stock up on popcorn.

    Yes. Because the radical left Syriza are telling the Eurozone, who their bestie is.

    A new take on the Trojan horse?

  64. FMD this country is a toilet. Current Affair – apparently dad is a terrible person cause he lets his 11 year old son muck around on his bike outside with a friend while he has a drink at the pub.

    ???? Am I missing something? The kids play while dad has a coldie.
    The problem is what, exactly?

  65. Leigh Lowe

    squalid aly on his ‘project your inner rage’ soapbox, having a go at old australias derryn hinch.

    Stood 30 seconds of it, as squalid went tribal at hinch, lecturing him that just because the australians opposing the death penalty for australian drug smugglers weren’t complaining about indonesians being executed, didn’t mean that they didn’t care about the progressively correct things to care about.

    Where are all the pergressives who not so long ago were lecturing Tony about respeck for Indonesian sovereignty? You know, when one of our ships put it’s nose (bow?) over Indons maritime limit, or when Edward Snowden leaked that Rimmer had been bugging Mrs Bam-Bang’s i-phone.
    It seems that now, when a couple of ne’er do well drug dealers are going to get some 9mm ventilation, Indonesian sovereignty can be used as a doormat by the head-tilty left.
    PS … I love “Squalid Aly”.

  66. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    The Diplomad nails it!

    Back in 2012, the Greek electorate gave a narrow victory to the dishonest crooks, favored by the dishonest and crooked EU bureaucracy, of the New Democrat Party. Well, guess what? The NDP, as this little blog predicted, could do nothing to stop the Greek slide with some $12 billion getting pulled out of the Greek economy on a weekly basis.

    This time, however, it seems the Greeks finally listened, and elected the openly honest crooks of the far-left populist Syriza Party. Syriza will form a government in alliance with the other openly honest crooks, those of the far-right populist ANEL, or Independent Greeks. The two governing partners agree on nothing except keeping Germany’s money and telling the EU bureaucracy to take a hike.

    You can read in the European press all about the great “problem” caused by the new Greek government. Much wailing and rending of garments.

    I, however, think this is a great result. It will force the EU and Greece to confront decades of hypocrisy and corruption, and either the EU project, an easily foreseeable disaster from day one, will come to a screeching and well-deserved end, or populist politicians in Greece and elsewhere in Europe will be shown to be as corrupt and venal as all the rest.

    Either result is fine.

    Make sure you are stocked up on popcorn!

  67. Leigh Lowe

    FMD this country is a toilet. Current Affair – apparently dad is a terrible person cause he lets his 11 year old son muck around on his bike outside with a friend while he has a drink at the pub.

    Saw the promo.
    Could be wrong, but it has all the hallmarks of a shitty ex-bride gathering “evidence” for family court gouge.

  68. Leigh Lowe

    Syriza will form a government in alliance with the other openly honest crooks, those of the far-right populist ANEL,

    There’s a party in Greece called ANEL?
    Of course there is.

  69. Leigh Lowe

    Horses for courses. Will kill a rubber tree easily. Definitely wins a cigar

    Tools need to make noise.
    The more decibels the better.

  70. Dan

    ??? Am I missing something? The kids play while dad has a coldie.
    The problem is what, exactly?

    Too much attention paid to the fourth at Menangle and not enough leaning out the window saying woopsy daisy

  71. Lem

    and either the EU project, an easily foreseeable disaster from day one, will come to a screeching and well-deserved end, or populist politicians in Greece and elsewhere in Europe will be shown to be as corrupt and venal as all the rest.

    Either result is fine.

    No need for either/or, both outcomes are likely. Greece is flipping the bird to Europe, and letting them know exactly whose side they’re on. And as well practiced gangsters, I wonder what price the Kremlin will pay them. Because the auto teller will be saying nien in a month.

  72. rebel with cause

    Could be wrong, but it has all the hallmarks of a shitty ex-bride gathering “evidence” for family court gouge.

    Yeah mumsies evidence that dad was ‘no kind of father at all’ becuase ‘anything could happen to him out there’. Que ‘parenting expert’ to claim that ‘this kind of thing is all too common’. What, dads letting boys be boys? You’d hope so.

  73. DrBeauGan

    So, twostix, we’re plotting to rerun the culture wars one small step at a time. We’re going to go back to ideas of responsibility, sturdy independence, men and women of principle in office, truth justice and the Australian way. And the first small steps to striking terror into lefties? We bring back knights and dames and make Phil the Greek one. Sure, that will work.

    CL makes as good a case as can be made. Yes, Phil is a good bloke. And now we can stand up with Venezuela and the Trobriand Islands or wherever the hell in recognising that fact. Still, I can’t help thinking there are a few other steps TA might have tried first.

    Face it, this is all of a piece with Spot-Destroyer, PPL, Aborigines in the constitution and 18C. The man is worse than useless. And those who see Morrison or Bishop as saviours are in for another heartbreak.

  74. Grigory M

    Sure, Oco – hang loose.

  75. Motelier

    Given my thoughts on the accuracy of the Australian Weather Bureau and now with the same thing happening in the United States (we will all be frozen), I would suggest that all government funded weather bureaus ditch the multi-million dollar computers and their models and go back to those instruments that really work.

    This heavy duty weather device can be knocked up quickly. A light duty version using a piece of string can be easily knocked up for home use.

    The download even has instructions.

  76. srr

    Finally!!!

    Obama is called for the treasonous mongrel he is.

    “And it is also true that Obama has been purging anyone who speaks of the jihad threat or seeks to oppose it. It is clear. It’s treachery at the most senior level.”

    http://pamelageller.com/2015/01/former-defense-intel-chief-blows-the-whistle-on-obama.html/

    So, Obama and who else is it, that has such a hard on for Qataris that they want to import them?

    Obama had arranged for the Taliban leaders to be released from Gitmo to Qatar, which supports the Muslim Brotherhood, with assurances Qatari officials would “monitor” them for one year.

    The military was furious and flew Bergdahl to a German holding point to interrogate him, denying him any collaborative contact with his father.

    Incredibly, National Security Adviser Susan Rice, was appearing on various news shows claiming that Bergdahl had served with, “honour and distinction.”

    Meanwhile Bowe’s father and Obama were bear hugging each other in the White House Rose Garden in front of curious media, iterating how the US military, “never leaves a soldier behind”. The father was speaking phrases in fluent Arabic and Pashto (the official language of Afghanistan). Still Obama hadn’t realised he was part of the scam.

    “Or had he?”

    yesterday the Pentagon denied reports that the Military was preparing to Court Martial Bergdahl, stressing the top commander reviewing the case had made no decision yet. Hmmmm.

    Other reports suggest the process is already in train and the excreta is about to hit the fan in an open Court disclosing Obama’s and Bob and Bowe Bergdahl’s complicity in a treasonous plot to undermine the security of the United States to the advantage of its enemy, the Taliban .

    Intriguing reports you will not read elsewhere from early last year are here:

    http://pickeringpost.com/story/in-the-name-of-the-father-the-son-and-the-holy-mackerel-/3344

    http://pickeringpost.com/story/do-five-terrorists-equal-one-u-s-traitor-/3336

  77. Leigh Lowe

    and either the EU project, an easily foreseeable disaster from day one, will come to a screeching and well-deserved end, or populist politicians in Greece and elsewhere in Europe will be shown to be as corrupt and venal as all the rest.

    It looks like this bloke might have … (ahem) … died of shame … in advance.

  78. Regards short term weather forecasting;
    A bit too much is expected of the weather bureaus.

    The people bitching about how “wrong” the weather forecasters are, when 2 inches of rain is predicted, and only 180 points falls, need to have a drink of cement or something.

    I think the weather bureaus do a fantastic job with short term forecasts, it is a country mile ahead of what the forecasts were not that long ago.

    The bogans (be they New Yorkers or wherever) do not realise just how difficult it is to predict weather events.

    In my experience: Those who bitch loudest about the “unreliability” of weather forecasts are totally & completely unable to form in advance a mental picture of the difference betweenwhat one inch of rain will do to the grass, and what three inches of rain will do.

  79. candy

    The only way out of this is for Tony Abbott to say it seemed like a good idea at the time and explain his reasons and his chief of staff thought so too. And then fire her and hire a man.

    I’m sure she would have known anyway . Who would have contacted the Palace and put out the press releases and authorise if not her? Did he do it all in secret.

    Still, people see him as nutty now. Heartbreaking to watch. I feel really sad about it.

  80. Stimpson J. Cat

    Too soon Leigh, too soon.:)
    A case of Euro-fatigue.

  81. I suspect that Greece may be looking for friends out-side the Union of Soviet Socialist Europe to provide it much needed credit in coming months.

    Might explain why they’d be siding with the Russians over anything. (Embrace The Putin, Become The Putin)

  82. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Leigh:

    Remember when Sarah Sea-Patrol was making a complete dugong of herself…

    OI!!

    That’s extremely offensive.

    You can’t just go around comparing Snake-eyes Heifer-Bong to dugongs!

    let’s compare, shall we?

    Dugings are useful.
    Dugongs are much, much better looking.
    Dugongs are much slimmer.
    Dugongs do not support terrorism.
    Dugongs eyes are further apart.
    Dugongs have bigger brains.
    No dugong is anti-semitic.
    The face of a dugong is more attractive, and has less facial hair.
    Dugongs are at least seven orders of magnitude smarter.
    If you have a choice of boinking a dugong or Snake-eyes Heifer-Bong, you are going to choose the most highly evolved critter aren’t you – the dugong.
    Dugongs wash more often.
    The smell – ’nuff said.
    No dugong has ever leeched on the public tit.
    Dugongs don’t come in their pants every time a boatload of ‘little brown people’ drown.
    No dugong is or has ever been racist.

    I could go on but you get the point.

    Bad Leigh. Consider yourself triced to the triangle and given 12 lashes.

  83. Tom

    The man is worse than useless. And those who see Morrison or Bishop as saviours are in for another heartbreak.

    Correct.

    Abbott and the LNP have no faith or guiding principles. He and they stand for nothing, believe in nothing except being gatekeepers of state power. The LNP is a corrupt relic of the corrupt two-party state, which believes in doling out huge amounts of private wealth to themselves and their favourite gangsters.

    The Green Left kakistocracy is only marginally less transparent about what it really stand for.

  84. Motelier

    In my experience: Those who bitch loudest about the “unreliability” of weather forecasts are totally & completely unable to form in advance a mental picture of the difference betweenwhat one inch of rain will do to the grass, and what three inches of rain will do.

    HA! SatP we use millimetres now. All of the models they use fail to use information from records. We have cattle cockies that stay here. Talking to them in the restaurant makes it clear that information stored from memory will someday come in use when you observe similar events happening.

    Surfers are another tribe that can tell when the “big ones” will be rolling in. They just need to look at a weather map in most cases, look at the sky and make a decision.

    We have a farm agronomist that stays at the southern motel. He observes what is happening over the Himalayas and southern China to make a “bold” set of predictions. He usually stays with us fortnightly for 4 nights starting in September and finishing in May. Including across the Christmas/New Year period.

    Im 2010 during the middle of November, he said he was going on a short break and would not see us again until the end of February 2011. Bugger I thought, there goes a few bucks. Then he said quietly to me.

    “December and January would not be good times for travelling. ”

    Heavy rain through out Queensland in December 2010 and January 2011 resulting in flooding in Bundaberg and Brisbane. with lots of localised flooding along the Bruce Highway.

    He picked the Bundaberg flood of 2013 as well.

  85. DrBeauGan

    Candy, some of us could see TA was a nutter a long while back. Now lots of people have noticed. What is truly sad is to see the triumph of hope over sense and the massive self-deception that went on.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Mk50 …
    The honourable member for Sodom and Gomorrah withdraws the unfavourable reference to dugongs and unreservedly apologises.
    In making the comparison with the (cough) honourable Senator from South Australia, it was never my intent to infer that dugongs were fat, ugly, oxygen-purloining slags.
    Sorry.
    Won’t happen again.

  87. Motelier

    Oh and you can add the New Years flood of 2011 for Rockhampton to that as well.

    This was the one where the Mayor of Rockhampton at the time, threatened households in the lower areas of Rockhampton (Depot Hill) with turning off their power to move them and then forcibly removing them from their properties.

    That Mayor was a panty wetting lefty as well.

  88. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    On Syriza, I sincerely hope the Huns grow some stones and say ‘let them burn’.

    Were I a Hun, I’d be pretty ticked that the ANEL -lovers wanted me to work to 70 so I could pay for them to retire at 50.

    Beer’n’popcorn time.

    (Yeah, Huns. Been reading grand-dads diary again. He had a … shall we say torrid time during the Ludendorff offensive. Still, a few of his unit survived, all wounded like him, and ‘ … we stopped them in that hour, with Mills bombs … we found, the next day, very many more dead Huns and Hunnish body-fragments before the position and within it than we had lost, but only nine of us lived, and all were wounded during the action… then the whizzbangs started and we were forced to fall back toward Amiens again, picking up some Tommies on the way… there among the ditches we dug in to chance another stand…‘)

  89. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Leigh

    🙂

  90. Grigory M

    I suspect that Greece may be looking for friends out-side the Union of Soviet Socialist Europe to provide it much needed credit in coming months.

    Might explain why they’d be siding with the Russians over anything. (Embrace The Putin, Become The Putin)

    It could well be that the theatre that has been in progress in the Ukraine will soon pale into insignificance if Russia and Greece start openly demonstrating their new-found friendship. Russian military planes flying into Athens – Russian warships anchored in Piraeus and Corfu – joint missile bases on the north west border with Bulgaria. That should add some spice to the debt refinancing proposals that Greece is likely to pursue with its EU mortgagees. Might even be enough to give pause to the Presidential Golfer.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Were I a Hun, I’d be pretty ticked that the ANEL -lovers wanted me to work to 70 so I could pay for them to retire at 50.

    ‘zactly.
    Their ABC is fond of reporting how the poor downtrodden Greeks have been plundered by the dreaded “austerity”.
    No-one spares a thought for poor old Hans from Hamburg, freezing his nuts off and working his fingers to the bone until he is 65, just so Ari can retire at 55 on a full pension and go fishing in the sun.

  92. Grigory, a Russo-Hellenic alliance of any kind would really peeve the Turks who have spent decades sabre-rattling over everything from Greece declaring an exclusive economic zone, Cyprus, who owns what bits of dirt between the two.

    I doubt Greece is going to be home to anything more than whatever Rubles Russia can spare to lend them though.

  93. Motelier

    Might even be enough to give pause to the Presidential Golfer.

    Grigory M. Nope. President Niblick will continue to play as many rounds of golf as he can. This will not stop him at all.

    He has the endorsement of the exPOTUS that endorsed the use of mouse pads as kneepads for interns in the White House.

  94. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    When you think about it, there’s much fun to be had with the lazy sponging Greek commie bludgers and their relationship with ANEL.

    However, I am working on Chapter 7, and so cannot get into a frivolous mood tonight with the assistance of some excellent Mount Gay Barbados rum.

    Curse you, thesis!

  95. Snoopy

    apparently dad is a terrible person cause he lets his 11 year old son muck around on his bike outside with a friend while he has a drink at the pub.

    He should let his ex belt his son over the head with a cricket bat. Instant hero.

  96. Armadillo

    I’m not convinced about the qualities of Dugongs. I recall some Catster pointed this out at the time – behold the “Dugong in a Dress”………

    http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/07/28/1226686/960431-kevin-rudd.jpg

  97. calli

    Curse you, thesis!

    Good for you Mk50. Slog away. I never got to Bachelor (for a whole host of reasons). Perhaps if I’d had some liquid help I woulda bin a contender! 🙂

  98. Leigh Lowe

    However, I am working on Chapter 7, and so cannot get into a frivolous mood tonight with the assistance of some excellent Mount Gay Barbados rum.

    Curse you, thesis!

    You’d be surprised how many papers are written under the influence if strong liquor.
    I used to look forward to getting my Uni papers returned by lecturers so I could see what was in them.

  99. Leigh Lowe

    I am still recovering from the suggestion that electrically powered appliances are useful for anything other than shaving legs and vacuuming the depilatory residue off the carpet.

  100. Snoopy

    Earlier tonight I saw a promo on the History Channel for the show Coast which I think premiered on SBS last year. It is hosted by a quite agreeable long-haired Scots git who hosted A History of Scotland.

    Anyway the promo featured a young women sitting in front of laptop computer (natch) rabbitting on about how some sea temp recording device off Tasmania had recorded 70 years of temperature increases. So assuming the footage was filmed in about 2013, that means that in 1943, the Australian scientific community, under threat of Japanese invasion, was consumed with seawater temperature off Tasmania?

    I call bullshit. And that’s without worrying about margins of error.

  101. Leigh Lowe

    That reminds me Armadillo … is the circus due in town soon?

  102. Snoopy

    I haven’t tasted SHY but I can confirm that dugong is quite tasty.

  103. cohenite

    How dead does AGW have to be before someone in authority, some politician, some media outlet, some cohort of academics declares it is bullshit?

    A new paper:

    Artificial amplification of warming trends across the mountains of the western United States
    Jared W. Oyler1,2, Solomon Z. Dobrowski3, Ashley P. Ballantyne2,3, Anna E. Klene4,
    and Steven W. Running1

    The opening paragraph:

    Temperatures across Earth’s surface are warming globally [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 2013], but certain land areas are warming faster than others [Meehl et al., 2012]. Empirical studies suggest that temperatures at higher elevations are warming faster than at lower elevations [Diaz and Bradley, 1997; Diaz and Eischeid, 2007; Wang et al., 2013] leading to concern over impacts to important water resources and ecological services provided by mountainous regions [Beniston, 2003]. Multiple mechanisms have been postulated to explain elevation-dependent warming including snow-albedo feedbacks, changes in cloud cover, consistent atmospheric decoupling in valley locations, and greater high-elevation sensitivity to water vapor radiative influences [Rangwala and Miller, 2012]. Nonetheless, evidence supporting elevation-dependent warming varies by region and is often scarce or equivocal given limited observations at high elevations and the complexities of mountain climate [Pepin and Lundquist, 2008; Rangwala and Miller, 2012].

    This is crucial for a couple of reasons. Firstly it is absolutely essential for AGW to be real that atmospheric rates of temperature increase be greater than surface increase because of the alleged feedback from greater amounts of evaporated water vapour. This isn’t happening; the Tropical Hotspot is a unicorn.

    Secondly the more reliable satellites are showing a longer temperature pause than the corrupted surface indices which have the greasy fingerprints of the corrupt climate scientists all over them. But the alarmists say the satellites don’t measure the same thing as the surface indices. Well here we have elevated surface temperatures, all false, all fucked and all really showing the same lack of temperature increase as the satellites.

  104. Armadillo

    … is the circus due in town soon?

    Country Music Week finished up on Sunday, Leigh.

  105. chrisl

    Did anybody spot the deliberate mistake on A Current Affair tonight where they compared Apple’s Tax Compared to turnover (1.3%) when in actual fact it is profits that are taxed! And then compared that miserable figure with the good old Aussie battler who is taxed at 30%. Outrage!

  106. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Leigh:

    You’d be surprised how many papers are written under the influence if strong liquor.
    I used to look forward to getting my Uni papers returned by lecturers so I could see what was in them.

    Not with my supervisor, that’d be a bad idea in so many ways. And I defy anyone to stay tanked for the time it takes to write 100,000 words.



    Actually, I’d pay money to see that!

    So as Calli sez, I’m slogging away. Home stretch now.

  107. Grigory M

    @Seditionary1 – it is more than likely that the Turks move away from a secular society may be somewhat tempered by a need to maintain good relations with the Russians – and that could extend to agreed easy passage through the Bosporus, thereby allowing Russian ships to service interests in relation to both Greece and the Ukraine. Greece wants to abandon the current EU debt arrangements and will use any new friendship with Russia in any way it needs to – it would seem naive to expect that to be limited to simple acceptance of Russian money.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    I haven’t tasted SHY but I can confirm that dugong is quite tasty.

    Yep.
    Dugong tastes just like dolph ….. er ….. chicken.

  109. srr


    4 beheaded in Saudi Arabia less than a week into King Salman’s rule
    ….
    Retired Army General says Obama let Al-Qaeda grow ‘fourfold in last 5 years’

    It’s not a phobia when no fear is irrational.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    So as Calli sez, I’m slogging away. Home stretch now.

    Keep at it.
    Get it done, put it aside for a few days (if you can), re-read it once, correct it, take a deep breath and submit.
    You can sweat over it too much.

  111. Snoopy

    chrisl
    #1583583, posted on January 28, 2015 at 9:24 pm
    Did anybody spot the deliberate mistake on A Current Affair tonight where they compared Apple’s Tax Compared to turnover (1.3%) when in actual fact it is profits that are taxed! And then compared that miserable figure with the good old Aussie battler who is taxed at 30%. Outrage!

    SBS did the same. Journo’s are bone lazy so obviously some lefty filth such as GetUp has flicked of a media release which the idiots parrot.

  112. Armadillo

    And I defy anyone to stay tanked for the time it takes to write 100,000 words.

    Search the Cat archives MK50. mOnSter & nUmbers could do it without breaking into a donut or Vietnam agent orange induced sweat.

    I defy anyone to prove either of them spent a single minute here sober. Their comments are proof of that.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    … is the circus due in town soon?

    Country Music Week finished up on Sunday, Leigh.

    Not sure why you are linking to pictures of Rimmer outside the Ashton’s Circus tent.

  114. .

    That’s a shame Denise. There are some brilliant articles on the site. Fortunately I have not seen the downhill slide as I stopped reading it due to spending more time on this blog, and real world time constraints.

  115. .

    incoherent rambler
    #1583442, posted on January 28, 2015 at 5:59 pm
    Re the Menzies House survey (assume they are all LP voters)

    Did you support the Federal Coalition Government’s decision to increase petrol taxes?

    Running at 31% yes.

    Who thinks more tax is good? FMD

    Mein gott. There is simply no justification for the tax hike.

  116. Grig, at the most it is likely nothing more than mutual finger raising to the Union of Soviet Socialist Europe on both Greece and Russia’s parts.

  117. .

    The NBN will cost over 200 bn AUD

    I still think that $90Bn in end-cost dollars is more realistic (+ or – $5Bn).

    That’s because you’re a twit, Grigory.

  118. Steve

    Best tool for clearing up the garden Gab, is a slasher.
    If you can’t purchase one (I have never found one for sale in Vic) they are easy to make from an axe handle and a full width law mower blade, both available at Bunnings.
    You will need a grinder to sharpen the blade.

  119. .

    Doing the Menzies House survey. I smell John Humphreys in the questions.

  120. twostix

    So, twostix, we’re plotting to rerun the culture wars one small step at a time.

    Not at all. And this may come as a surprise but Howard never ran any sort of “culture war”. The left did their old tactic of pre-emptively pretending to fight and “win” a heroic battle against something that the other side wasn’t even doing. Sure he bloviated about it a bit, but what did he actually do. Nothing.

    Not.A.Thing. And anything he did economically or institutionally was immediately abolished by Rudd and Gillard and paid back with interest.

    Howard was a failure, his mediocre plan didn’t even survive for two years of him being out. All we have left after Howard’s reign is a massive middle class entitlement complex, an even worse federation, out of control state governments with buckets of money pouring in and no responsibility for raising any of it, serious work place relation reform off the map for a generation, no guns, and institutionally and culturally everything pretty much everything the same as Keating left it (though he left Canberra the actual city somehow far worse than he found it).

    So Abbott may be trying something a bit different.

    And the first small steps to striking terror into lefties?

    No. And this is everything wrong with the non-left. Too many comic books and caricatures of how power should be wielded. Anything less than Pinochet style throwing people out of helicopters is a failure. Bored with the silly little boring bits. The entire point is to do things that are so mundane that nobody can find the wherewithal to care but which when done en-mass, over time, begin to change the country from the bottom up. Restoring Knights and Dames – cultural and traditional titles that tie us to our heritage abolished at the urging of communist filth in the 1970’s as part of their Great Leap Forward – is one of those little things.

    Do you understand why the left, out of all the things Abbott has done, including destroying the Climate Change Industry in Australia – the modern lefts pet project – are going absolutely mental over this particular bit of nothing? Because they sense what it is, a reversal, a “going back”, a signal that we can reverse the cultural revolution and that history is not an inevitable march to the beat of their drum.

    “Conservatives” could actually push back against this one but, well, The Project and Facebook and zingers about knights and dames and stuff.

  121. Motelier

    If it is a tree and you can stand on the ground, the get a pruning saw. Available from all good gardening stores. There are hand held, saws on sticks, 2 stroke engine powered (my personal favourite) and electric ones on sticks.

    If you want to remove a tree that keeps on doing the Phoenix, cut as close to the ground as you can safely. Cut a crosshatch in the stump that is left, and then find a supplier of Tordon.

    Enjoy your day in the yard.

  122. Motelier

    Sorry. Gab somehow got deleted from that post.

    I really have to find the gremlin that hides underneath the keyboard on my notebook.

    Grrrrrr

  123. Rudiau

    Doing the Menzies House survey. I smell John Humphreys in the questions.

    …. and not one question on CC …. humph!

  124. Grigory M

    Dot – as a person who describes himself “as a leading eminent economist” – you seen given to substantial overestimations. Did you provide R-G-R with the Mining Tax revenue estimates?

  125. JC

    Do people actually know how much Apple computer made in the last quarter? $18 Billion!

    That’s basically $200 million per day or $8 million per hour or $133,000 or $22,000 per second.

  126. Fisky

    Industrial strength delusion in Greece –

    But according to Syriza, the agreements are already dead. In an interview Monday evening, leading Syriza economist Yanis Varoufakis said the party considers Greece’s bailouts to be “finished” and will demand immediate debt forgiveness from Germany and others.

    “Germany’s not interested in Greece. They consider us to be insufferable grasshoppers,” said Varoufakis, who is considered a likely prospect for finance minister. “We were being sacrificed on the altar, and we’re not going to allow ourselves to be sacrificed anymore.”

    Tsipras had declared in a rousing victory speech Sunday evening that Syriza’s election win “ends, beyond any doubt, the vicious circle of austerity in our country.”

    Germany must not budge an inch. Kick them out of the EU and show them some real austerity!

  127. Motelier

    Do people actually know how much Apple computer made in the last quarter? $18 Billion!

    That’s basically $200 million per day or $8 million per hour or $133,000 or $22,000 per second.

    I will drag this over to the new Open Thread.

  128. Combine Dave

    I doubt Greece is going to be home to anything more than whatever Rubles Russia can spare to lend them though

    Smart. So the French Euro weanies get the Ukraine and in exchange Putin gets bankrupt socialist Greece.

    Any chance we can convince Tasmania to leave the commonwealth and join the imperalistic Russian state?

  129. Tel

    Do you understand why the left, out of all the things Abbott has done, including destroying the Climate Change Industry in Australia – the modern lefts pet project – are going absolutely mental over this particular bit of nothing? Because they sense what it is, a reversal, a “going back”, a signal that we can reverse the cultural revolution and that history is not an inevitable march to the beat of their drum.

    Naaa, it’s because Knights and Dames is a simple concept to understand, so everyone has an opinion. You give too much credit. Revolutions don’t get televised; whatever is happening of importance gets covered by constant distractions, and people (by their own choice) are easily distracted. Abbott wanted the press talking about something he did, and he got that. Palmer will be jealous any minute now, and Stunt Man Xenophon will be pulling on a flying suit complete with life size chicken wings. How to woo the low attention span voter.

    I’d probably get blasted for saying this, but the goldfish only goes round the bowl a few times and it forgets where it started. Anyone who can still remember this comment next week isn’t one of the people I’m talking about.

  130. Jeremy

    Twostix, Bringing back Knights and Dames was a good idea for exactly the cultural recovery reasons you mention. But on whose list does Prince Phillip come first? I respect him and would be happy to see him Knighted, but couldn’t we start with Les Murray or Richie Benaud?

  131. Viva

    cultural recovery

    More like cultural archaeology.

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