The question really is just how depraved is the ABC?

From The Oz. These are five questions the ABC refuses to answer:

1 – Did Q&A approach Zaky Mallah to join the show’s audience, or did he approach Q&A?
2 – Were the Q&A team aware of the general nature of the question that Zaky Mallah was going to ask?
3 – Did the ABC pay for Zaky Mallah to appear on Q&A?
4 – Did the ABC pay for his transport or travel to the program?
5 – Can you please release the correspondence between Mallah and the ABC.

I assume that the first two are a yes, the ABC did approach him and knew in general what he was going to ask. Tony Jones was completely primed for it. But the third and fourth are the kinds of things that would never cross my mind as real possibilities. The correspondence therefore has to come out.

The odd thing is that this was a genuine public service, the way it revealed a state of mind amongst some of our fellow citizens. It has been a quite edifying bit of television. The only problem is that the outcome was not the ABC’s intent but quite the reverse. The aim was to embarrass the government but has done only damage to itself. The last straw, one hopes, but at the very least it is the next-to-last straw. If the ABC cannot see how hideous it has become from the way this was plotted and designed, they really are an organisation beyond redemption.

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236 Responses to The question really is just how depraved is the ABC?

  1. Crossie

    I bet ASIO has the answers to questions 1 and 5 and are keeping their powder dry though affirmative answers to 3 and 4 could bring down ABC.

  2. Bonza

    They will become the victim, if anyone can promote being a victim QAndA can. That is all it is a paradody of left wing victim causes for the sneerers to feel better than everyone else. And with other people’s money they could put things right. The left never gets caught up in the values they sneer at of others hence Jones earns money from global warming handouts but doesn’t have to declare it or his position but shames others of the opposite view. Hypocrisy knows no bounds in this cess pit of the jealous and envious pious Prius drivers.

  3. Armadillo

    (1) could be a combination of both, but (2) is a definate Yes.

    In relation to 3 and 4, I think I saw mentioned that the studio was at Ultimo. I’d assume Wacky lives in Sydney? If he lives in Melbourne or Perth, that could be problematic for the ABC.

    What actually warrants further scrutiny is the number of times this has happened. I’ve noticed Cats at various times bringing up “bios” on the QandA thread for various questioners. Carpy might be the one to ask about that. He’s an unreliable witness, as he makes up the number of Interuptions so he can keep those arseless chaps all to himself. It’s worth a try though.

  4. Tom

    So this is how producer Tara Thomas and executive producer Peter McEvoy constructed their gotcha on Abbott minister and ABC enemy Steve Ciobo:

    Panellists were not warned Mallah would be in the audience. A briefing note from Q&A producer Tara Thomas told panellists that citizenship and terror were on the show’s agenda but they were not informed who would ask the question and what they would ask.
    It is clear the ABC was aware of the question. Would-be questioners were informed by Thomas if their question had been “short-listed” and told that “the program normally gets through 70 per cent of short-listed questions”.

    So that means there is now a huge arse-covering effort being made, from Mark Scott down, to avoid answering the question:

    1 – Did Q&A approach Zaky Mallah to join the show’s audience, or did he approach Q&A?

    If the ABC approached Jihad Boy, Scott, TV director Richard Finlayson, EP McEvoy and the episode producer Thomas will be lucky to keep their jobs and Q&A will be shut down.

    See also: ABC chiefs duck for cover over Zaky Mallah appearance as crisis grips network

  5. Sydney Boy

    Shut.it.down.

    Australia will be much better off without it.

  6. Armadillo

    Tom, apparently there were a couple of tweets from QandA during the day as a “Promo”.

  7. JakartaJaap

    Monumental own goal by the rabids at Q&A. Only the ABC and its creatures in the audience could love an illiterate convicted criminal and wannabe terrorist in the way they fawned over Ozy Zaky. People of Australia, the ABC and its love affair with the destruction of the West and Australia was all laid out there, last night, for your delectation and dissection.

  8. Armadillo

    I reckon Ciobo only knew who this clown was because QandA stuffed up their “Promo” and said something about “an alleged terrorist acquitted years ago asking a question” (or words to that effect). Narrowed the field significantly, and Ciobo did his homework. Why wouldn’t you? QandA = an ambush expected.

  9. A Lurker

    Just as concerning as Mallah’s presence on the show is the applause afforded to him by the studio audience. That fact alone presents us with a number of disturbing questions that should be directed to the ABC with answers expected.

  10. notafan

    Mallah also tweeted prior to appearing that he was in touch with the media.
    Wonder if he got taxi vouchers.

  11. Armadillo

    And let’s not forget security. Any nutter can get into Ultimo, to cheer or jeer. Chuck a shoe. Unfurl a great big banner. It’s a circus.

    I’d go as far to say, that the majority are invited.

    ABCRC NOW! $61 million spent today could save us billions. A good investment.

  12. Robert O

    It continues, the Indonesian phone taps, the stories about mis-treatment of economic refugees, but this time they have really upset the PM and Minister Turnbull and perhaps the ABC board will do something to earn their money in terms of adherence to the ABC charter. Remember what happened to journalists Milne and Smith when they upset PM Gillard, perhaps Tony Jones will suffer the same fate?

  13. Baldrick

    As Immigration Minister Peter Dutton told Leigh Sales on TheirABC 7.30 Report last night:

    I want to see some significant changes made to ‘Q&A’ because I don’t think it reflects the population’s expectation from the public broadcaster. It is a good format but frankly, it’s been hijacked in terms of the audience. I think the producers and the host have a lot of questions to answer and I think that’s what the ABC board has pointed to today.

    Now, if only we can have the Communications Minister saying the same things.

  14. A Lurker

    Now, if only we can have the Communications Minister saying the same things.

    Remove Turnbull from Communications, and instead give the portfolio to Senator Bernardi.

  15. Tintarella di Luna

    How depraved is the ABC? to quote a Q & A guest – “there are some things that can’t be measured”

  16. Tom

    I didn’t know this:

    …during Mallah’s exchange with the [Q&A] panel, this tweet was selected by the show’s producers and presented on screen: “The actual government has stopped believing in the rule of law. Get a gun.”

    This might be the first pro-gun message ever broadcast by the ABC. It’s just another breakthrough for Q & A, which continues to set the standard for ABC bias and blundering.

    The ABC just blew its brains out … with a gun.

  17. Percy

    The last straw, one hopes, but at the very least it is the next-to-last straw

    I’m far too sober to be this optimistic.

  18. Blogstrop

    they really are an organisation beyond redemption.

    Fixing Q&A isn’t going to be enough. The problem of bias and agendum setting goes right through the entire list of programs, perhaps less so with those run by Switzer and Vanstone, although the latter is not a patch on the original hosts of Counterpoint – a program so feared by the denizens that they gave it the worst time slots.

    While News and Current Affairs is a disaster area, even the arts programs which take up so much of the Radio National prime time dole out huge slabs of leftism. The arts community is, after all, a sizeable reservoir of anti-conservative thinking – any close examination of the writers festival or the poorly named festival of dangerous ideas, both smiled upon by the ABC, reveals a mindset closed to anything remotely connected to the right side of the political spectrum.

    We’ve discussed many times to difficulty of privatising the ABC, or reforming it. Perhaps radical surgery, if not defunding, would do the job. Reduce their budget to allow purely regional services, and even then keep a close eye on what they’re up to. Plenty of trouble can be caused in the regions by environmental zealots.

  19. 2dogs

    These are five questions the ABC refuses to answer

    These need a formal FOI request. It would be interesting to see what excuse ABC would come up with.

  20. Ooh Honey Honey

    Now I think everyone is overreacting. The ABC are loving this.

  21. Blogstrop

    A further thought on causing trouble in the regions. I’ve got just one thing to say to you, as Kath often said. Indi.

  22. mark

    One wonders if Turnbull will have the balls to stand up to Abbott now to protect his cosy little propaganda machine. Either Turnbull falls on his sword or he guts the board and lays waste to the leftie opinion merchants infesting the news department of the ABC.

  23. johno

    Well done Steven Ciobo. If he had followed the usual script for Coalition members on the Left’s Q&A, he would have rolled over and been embarrassed. Instead he took them on and the whole set up back fired.
    If only Abbott and Turncoat would take note and grow a pair.

  24. Di

    No link but – Leak is brilliant today!

  25. Tom

    Fixing Q&A isn’t going to be enough.

    Bloggy, I mentioned this on another thread. There were rumblings of this idea in the LNP before the last election, but, like everything else the Lieborals have thought of, it hasn’t been acted on. I put it in a message to Steve Ciobo:

    Steve, when will the government take action to curb the ABC’s now-routine violation of its charter by appointing an external independent ombudsman to investigate and act on complaints against the ABC, which is currently allowed to investigate itself in spite of its many transgressions against the taxpayers who are forced to finance it?

  26. gabrianga

    I s Lord Wentworth a slow learner or just a glued on “Friend of the ABC”?

    Perhaps Pete and Dud provide a little speech for Abbott to deliver to Lord of the Point Piper Manor

    link

  27. Bad Samaritan

    I suggest a very quick look at the ABC site “The Drum”. They are ramping it up even further as we dilly dally being civil.

  28. Combine_Dave

    Q n A, still more watchable than the feed.

    But seriously, it’s the 21st century, why the fk is there not only a state broadcaster but a multitude of state owned government channels, radio stations etc..

    What a country.

  29. Sydney Boy

    Bad Samaritan – Even worse are the comments on the story. Or perhaps it is just Waleed Aly with many different user names?

    There were accusations that the government paid off people smugglers last week and it was all over the news. No credible evidence, but it spawned a dozen opinion pieces in the usual lefty media. Now is the time for the government to demand the ABC to prove it did not pay Crazy Zacky to appear on Q&A. And the lefty edia response will be … [sound of crickets]

  30. JMH

    We’ll know if anything will be done to clean out the vermin within the ABC if (a) Q and A goes to air next Monday night and more importantly (b) if there is a conservative MP to be seen.

    Grow a set PM Tony. Without the weekly token to provide lols, the show will be cactus within a few episodes.

    On that note, I have not watched one episode of the show this year. That’s my personal boycott. The only time I take any notice of the ABC these days is to switch on for QT. Close to zero value for my dollars.

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    On that note, I have not watched one episode of the show this year. That’s my personal boycott. The only time I take any notice of the ABC these days is to switch on for QT. Close to zero value for my dollars.

    Quite, user-pays ABC, I’d like to see that.

  32. min

    To a lurker,
    It was very disturbing to hear the clapping , even that un informed musician noted that there was only a single clap for Ciobo.

  33. Milton Von Smith

    Not sure what the problem is. The QandA show was perfectly balanced – the token number of conservatives was exactly equal to the number of terrorists.

  34. Ros

    The narcissist is back at it this morning.

    “Good morning Ausland! Are we ready for another day of holding Zaky Mallah to comtempt? Overruled.” Laughing faces.

    The psychs in his trial concluded he was of average intelligence. I don’t agree, or hope they are wrong. Very depressing if he is an example of average intelligence in Australia.

    The judge spoke of his manipulative behaviour. I would suggest that he himself is also easily manipulated, and that with their eyes wide open that is what the ABC did. Now he is again a media star almost overwhelmed by his sense of self importance, this time fueled by the ABC, and out of control. The ABC in its bunker has no idea what they have done, it is indeed a seperate solipsist universe that they inhabit.

  35. Ant

    It’s an organisation that employs complete leftist bubblebrains and pays them a fortune to do stupid clown like stuff in front of a camera, such as suggesting that “we” have to sit down with OBL to discuss his genuine grievances which prompted him to arrange the murder of 3,000 people by flying loaded passenger planes into buildings.

    The majority of fools working in the ABC sewer think that the moron who appeared in the audience on Monday night is a victim of white western privilege.

    The problem can’t be repaired by ‘reforming’ the ABC. The problem is in their DNA.

    I say they should disassemble it, sell it off and maybe retain the bits that telecast the childrens programs – so that the idiots with the bumper stickers have nothing to complain about.

  36. Ant

    On that note, I have not watched one episode of the show this year.

    Same. I have the utmost admiration for the Cats here who sit through it.

  37. Luke

    Turnbull owns this failure as well. He needs to be removed as communications Minister. If Abbott is smart he’ll do this, taking the opportunity to seriously hinder the ‘Kevin Rudd’ of the Liberal Party.

  38. Speedbox

    Nothing the ABC does surprises me anymore. Their anti-Government stance is astonishing.

    On the plus side, this idiot Mallah has done more to effectively promote the necessity for the Government’s citizinship stripping powers than any announcements by the Government itself. Because of the media storm, most of the country knows about his comments and in particular, non-ABC watchers who have now seen his call to arms. Most would be appalled and, I suspect, will fall in behind the Government even if they were previously ambivilent.

    Secondly, I think that Mallah has caused significant damage to the Muslim community, the high majority of whom go about their daily lives without plotting a terrorist attack. But, let’s be honest, in some areas Muslim men are already regarded with an element of suspicion by many non-Muslims and Mallah’s comments just fan that suspicion.

    Spectacular own goal for the ABC and Zaky Mallah.

  39. Up The Workers!

    Good to see Mark Scott scrupulously abiding by the A.L.P.B.C.’s charter as to impartiality with a program list that includes:

    1). The 7.00 pm National A.L.P. Views;
    2). The A.L.P.’s 7.30 Retort;
    3). A.L.P. Hateline;
    4). A.L.P. Business, with Tacky Full-of-it;
    5). A.L.P. Media Botch;
    6). One-Siders;
    7). The Dumb; and
    8). Q & A (Qaeda & Al)

    Yeah, that looks pretty even handed to me.

  40. sabrina

    Waleed Aly has exposed Mallah for what he really is. We have all seen in Q&A what he and those who clapped for him stands for. I am sure the law enforcement agencies will now watch him for his moves, if not already. I hope senses prevail among other deranged individuals in the community.

    There are far more pressing issues than this Mallah affair. Why these Australian bred (not sure if he was born here) young men like this feel the way they do? Tackle the root cause(s), whatever that may be.

  41. John Michelmore

    This event is just an indicator of what is going on behind the scenes within the ABC. We as taxpayers cannot support the use of our money this way. The ABC must be sold and privatised if there is a buyer; I don’t want to fund it anymore!!

  42. Speedbox

    “Why these Australian bred (not sure if he was born here)…..”

    On The Project last night Mallah said that he was born here and that he “loved this country”.

  43. goatjam

    If the ABC cannot see how hideous it has become from the way this was plotted and designed, they really are an organisation beyond redemption.

    They can’t and they are.

  44. Rabz

    revealed a state of mind amongst some of our fellow citizens

    While Mallah may nominally be an Australian citizen (and no, I don’t give a rodent’s if he was born here or not) in no way, shape or form is he an Australian.

  45. ACTOldFart

    Its bloated, lazy, complacent, relentlessly mediocre, with a distinct favouring of the extreme left, treachery and terrorism. I’m talking about the whole organisation, not just its Chief Executive.

  46. goatjam

    I say they should disassemble it, sell it off and maybe retain the bits that telecast the childrens programs

    A lot of their childrens programming are filled to the brim with PC social engineering propaganda too.

  47. Sydney Boy

    Mallah loves Australia. And Australian welfare. He may be born here, but a dog born in a stable is not, and never will be, a horse.

  48. notafan

    Mallah was born here. Mother died when he was thirteen, father remarried then died when Mallah was 17, poor relationship with step mother; went from Punchbowl Boys High to some muslim school. Left at end year 10 . Mickey Mouse tafe course then the passport fiasco and downhill since then.
    Islam is the icing on the disfunctional cake.

    The media fed his delusions of grandeur for years and continue to do so.

  49. notafan

    The social engineering of children’s programming has been unsubtle since Captain Planet made its boring and predictable debut.

  50. Fred Lenin

    I can proudly say. i have Never watched this communist rubbish on TV I do Not watch or listen to alpbc or sbs ,Never, they are like kids ,trying patience to the limit the more they get away with mthe worse they behave . A smacking is Long Overdue Defund Metropolitan stations ,sack the Board and executivesclear out the reds and greens mand leave it as a country provider. The massive amounts of money saved can be used to pay off green/ alp debt now it would do a lot more good there wouldnt it . The unemployed greens and red progressives can emigrate to North Korea or Venezuela .

  51. Sydney Boy

    Hmmm. I might have to put in another nomination for AOTY.

  52. Crossie

    The problem can’t be repaired by ‘reforming’ the ABC. The problem is in their DNA.

    I say they should disassemble it, sell it off and maybe retain the bits that telecast the childrens programs – so that the idiots with the bumper stickers have nothing to complain about.

    Privatisation is the way to go, once we all have shares in this monstrosity then we can decide whether to keep or sell our shares which would really indicate the value of the organisation.

    No need to do anything about children’s programs, the free to air networks will pick up the slack. In fact ABC had priced them out of that market, let’s have a level playing field and those who want “quality” programming can vote with their feet or wallets.

  53. cuckoo

    Q and A, where if you’re John Howard you get a shoe thrown at you, and if you’re an inbred, window-licking welfare-sucking boy-band terrorist with a criminal conviction, you get a round of applause.

  54. Crossie

    While Mallah may nominally be an Australian citizen (and no, I don’t give a rodent’s if he was born here or not) in no way, shape or form is he an Australian.

    Multiculturalism has obviously failed and is now just a divisive society destroying mechanism. Bring back assimilation.

  55. Jaftur

    When the alternative to the ABC is presenters like Alan Jones give me the ABC every time. If people contributing to this blog understood some economics they would understand that the main looming problem for Australia is a Current Account problem and the cure for that is re-establishing real productive (manufacturing) industries rather than money shuffling businesses that are parasitic.
    The most successful states are the Scandinavian countries, as mentioned on the QandA program by one of the articulate “left wingers”. The best education outcomes are in Finland. One of the panel accurately described the present situation in the USA and warned Australia that we appear to be following the same discredited course.
    Any sensible economist understands that inequality is disastrous for a society.
    The tax rates on the upper crust in Australia are far too low. While a middle manager in heavy industry we raised five children on a single income while my marginal tax rate and superannuation contribution meant that I received 28 cents from my last dollar. That income never exceeded $50,000 pa or about $10,000 more that a department shift foreman. Before Thatcherism took hold the step ration between supervisory/ management position was about 1.35 and it was recognized that a large industry required about six such steps.
    The present CEO system is a recipe for disaster. Peter Drucker, then the management guru, reported that the only sure recipe for success was management with the salary range of the top six or seven executives of 70-100. That is no tall poppy!

  56. Crossie

    That Mallah received applause and Ciobo didn’t is not a reflection of Australian society, it is evidence of ABC stacking the audience with fellow travellers.

  57. Crossie

    Ooh Jaftur, let’s talk about income inequality, economy, anything but the lunacy endemic at the billion dollars a year anti-Australian vipers pit at the ABC.

  58. calli

    When the alternative to the ABC is presenters like Alan Jones

    Is it? There are no other alternatives?

    as mentioned on the QandA program by one of the articulate “left wingers”

    You mean Hegarty? Hold me up.

  59. JJF

    Jaftur my taxes don’t pay for Alan Jones but they do pay for the ABC!

  60. MDMConnell

    Almost comical spinning from former ABC chairman David Hill was on 3AW this morning…

    * Isolated incident, nothing to do with bias, no reflection on ABC, nothing to see here….

    * ABC’s job is to talk about “all sides of an argument”, I thought we were in a democracy, why do people want to censor inconvenient views, if viewers can’t handle some controversy then they are stupid.

    * Mallah was a legitimate person to have on the show commenting on anti-terror laws, given his “false imprisonment”. He “just went a bit too far”. Oh well, that’s live TV, just one of those things, could have happened to anyone.

    * The ABC is not biased to the Left, and even if it is, it doesn’t matter because everyone at the ABC is a scrupulous professional who never lets their personal views slip through.

  61. Empire

    When the alternative to the ABC is presenters like Alan Jones give me the ABC every time

    I respect your consumer preference, Jatfur. I don’t share it, so you won’t mind if I ask you to pay for it.

    The most successful states are the Scandinavian countries

    By what measure? Sweden has issues with deflation, high private sector debt, a housing bubble (and other price issues caused by state interference in the economy) and 55 no-go zones where indigenous Swedes will be assaulted and murdered by barbarians invited in to the country by the left.

    How’s that Scandinavian success going for you?

  62. incoherent rambler

    I expect an email like the following –
    Dear Sir
    Your concerns have been noted and Tony Jones has addressed the points you raised about Q&A, explaining his view. Mr Jones addressed all concerns that had been raised.

    The matter was also referred to ABC News Management. We are satisfied that there was no malicious intent or bias displayed in the program.

    Yours sincerely

    Wotta Twat
    ABC News

  63. rebel with cause

    The tax rates on the upper crust in Australia are far too low.

    If only we all paid a bit more tax, the ABC could have enough funding to give dear Zaky his own show.

  64. incoherent rambler

    Sure there are problems with the ABC, more importantly, can we ensure that those who are charged with keeping us safe closely monitor the behaviour of “Friends of the ABC”, ABC staff and those who defend the behaviour of the ABC, and cast and crew of Q&A.
    A quick check on the audience members who applauded Mallah is appropriate, and maybe another quick check on their bank accounts for ABC funds.

  65. notafan

    I thought most Swedes were forced to live in ulitarian dog boxes that would make our housing commission high rise look like architectural masterpieces.

  66. notafan

    Zaky mallah openly supports Jabbah el nusra a proscribed terrorist organization which is a branch of al qaeda. Of course he should be given a platform on the national brisdcaster.
    Must qanda get a convicted peddo on to discuss the merits of sex with children.
    On the ABC standard of balance they should.

  67. Gab

    Just how depraved is their ABC?

    Depraved enough to replay Monday night’s Q&A. On now.

  68. notafan

    The upper crust being abc presenters and senior management.

  69. Up The Workers!

    A.L.P.B.C. – the terrorists’ propaganda orifice of choice amongst all Labor-voting, discerning International Centrelink Seekers;- the “Moocher-Hiddeen”.

    Brought to you by Mustafa Shortone, from “Allah’s Local Party”.

  70. Percy

    When the alternative to the ABC is presenters like Alan Jones give me the ABC every time.

    You know you’ll still be able to watch or listen to a privatised ABC right? Unless your favourite leftoid gets crushed by market forces, in which case why the fuck are we funding them with our taxes?

  71. john constantine

    Currency doesn’t have to be ‘physical shopping vouchers’.

    If their abc paid a mentally fragile man in a currency that gave him an emotional feeling of reward for indulging his bad decisions and indulging his worst impulses, that emotional rush is more valuable than money to the unhinged.

    Plus, their abc has guaranteed now that their man qualifies for permanent lifetime payments from their welfare industry, either as a client, or as an ‘insider’ running deradicalisation services for youth assessed as at risk of radicalisation. [what a rort that will be, pushing an entire convoy of kids into a welfare herd.]

  72. It’s now time to cut their ABC down to size. Strike whilst the iron is hot. Over to you, Malcolm.

  73. Gab

    Malcolm “Friends of their ABC” Turnbull says the right things when the shit hits the fan but does nothing about it. Same old, same old.

  74. candy

    Simplest thing is for government ministers to just not appear on Q&A.

    It relies on having Liberals/conservatives on so they can abuse and make fun of them, students demonstrate, call the PM a “tit” and everyone laughs.

    Without that it would not get the stupid “gotcha” moments and Terry Jones would have to talk to people just like himself all the time. Very dull TV then.

  75. gabrianga

    Replacement for Tony Jones ?

  76. Econocrat

    It would be interesting to see whether any Commonwealth laws have been broken by the ABC.

    For example, section 27 of the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013 provides as follows:

    Duty in relation to use of position
    An official of a Commonwealth entity must not improperly use his or her position:

    (a) to gain, or seek to gain, a benefit or an advantage for himself or herself or any other person; or

    (b) to cause, or seek to cause, detriment to the entity, the Commonwealth or any other person.

    I thin the Finance Minister should also be looking at what paymnets have been made.

  77. Alexis

    The anti-ABC hysteria here and at The Australian is amazing. You say you believe in free speech, but that’s hypocrisy. You don’t – it’s as simple as that.

  78. john constantine

    We can all see exactly how their abc wants to run itself.

    So let them.

    Free their abc from the cold dead hand of tory government interference.Let them editorialise all they want, just without the burden of government money.

    It will just be until their abc political party of choice returns to power and gifts them all with top-up cash for comment compensation payments, so it will just be like camping for 12 months or so.

    Like their climate commission, ‘crowd funding’ can tide them over until their gravy train resumes service.

  79. Crossie

    Just how depraved is their ABC?

    Depraved enough to replay Monday night’s Q&A. On now.

    And did they preface it with “Due to popular demand …”?

  80. 1 – Did Q&A approach Zaky Mallah to join the show’s audience, or did he approach Q&A?

    I’ve watched approximately 90 seconds of Q&A this year. It was last week with Bronny – not my fault, I was still in shock from GoT and channel flicking at random.
    So this Afghan refo stands up and asks his question – a gotcha for Bronny and a Dixer for Triggs.
    Snowcone pipes up and says something like “just to be clear you approached us, not the other way round – this isn’t a setup.” My first thought was “Why would he say that?” then it occurred to me that since 98% of questions ARE set up Snowcone was keen to point out the rare occassion where it wasn’t actually a typical Q&A gotcha.

  81. Gab

    Prefaced with a pith-weak apology for “allowing” Mallah onto the show. And then they go ahead and replay the episode while it is supposed to be “under investigation”.

    Their ABC – The Untouchables and they know it.

  82. Crossie

    It will just be until their abc political party of choice returns to power and gifts them all with top-up cash for comment compensation payments, so it will just be like camping for 12 months or so.

    I disagree, privatisation of Telecom (Telstra), Commonwealth Bank or Qantas was not overturned when governments changed. Once it’s gone it’s gone.

  83. Ant

    I wonder what Zaky Mallah’s views on gay marriage are.

    Maybe if QandA do a program dedicated to that topic they can invite him on again.

  84. Jo Smyth

    All this blowhard hyperbole is entertaining but let’s face it, nothing will get done. The news cycle moves on in a couple of days another story will emerge. Can you remember the ‘shocking’ news from last week because I bet most people can’t. As several here have said, the ABC are loving this.

  85. 1234

    Ciobo, yet another dill like Dutton from Qld. This government is looking more and more like a Joh run National Party government. Wind up the fear, crush dissent using the state (an inquiry anyone on tax deductibility of donations for environmental groups but allow companies to write off lobbying as a tax deduction, bully opponents (Triggs), secrecy a key principle of governing (wind back FOI and or impose higher fees), economic illiteracy. Abbott introducing these additional laws is just a stunt (talking about it for 18 months) and all part of the national security performance. He like Howard can only ever divide and not unite. Worst PM ever – 38 votes for the empty chair. That we allow ourselves to be distracted by his antics (how many flags and nodding heads behind this clown) reflects on all of us poorly. Q&A has merely served as a prop for Abbott. Free speech stops for Abbott and company when they disagree with you.

  86. Crossie

    Snowcone pipes up and says something like “just to be clear you approached us, not the other way round – this isn’t a setup.” My first thought was “Why would he say that?” then it occurred to me that since 98% of questions ARE set up Snowcone was keen to point out the rare occassion where it wasn’t actually a typical Q&A gotcha.

    I saw that too and thought what an odd thing to say.

  87. 1234

    I am sure the producers of Q&A will be offered good contracts with tabloid TV. Everyone is talking about the program.

  88. 1234

    Who the hell is The Australian to ask questions any way. What a corrupt self serving organisation the Murdoch media is. Anyone for phone hacking, poison pills, nepotism, tax dodging?

  89. Rabz

    Everyone is talking about the program.

    For all the wrong reasons.

  90. Bear Necessities

    I am sure the producers of Q&A will be offered good contracts with tabloid TV. Everyone is talking about the program.

    Probably not. Didn’t even make the Top 20 rating programs on Monday night. Got less than half the ratings of Married at First Sight & Reno Rumble.

  91. Bear Necessities

    And for a bit of help it goes:

    5678

  92. Anne

    He [Carpe] is an unreliable witness, as he makes up the number of Interuptions so he can keep those arseless chaps all to himself.

    Hey Arma, I won those chaps fair and square!!! :-\

  93. Fisky

    Panellists were not warned Mallah would be in the audience. A briefing note from Q&A producer Tara Thomas told panellists that citizenship and terror were on the show’s agenda but they were not informed who would ask the question and what they would ask.

    The ABC should be shut down for endangering the security of public officials on its own, before we even get to the business of inciting terrorism/providing a platform for terrorist advocates.

  94. Fisky

    Who the hell is The Australian to ask questions any way. What a corrupt self serving organisation the Murdoch media is. Anyone for phone hacking, poison pills, nepotism, tax dodging?

    Sounds like Fairfax to a tee.

  95. Boambee John

    Blogstrop
    #1718518, posted on June 24, 2015 at 6:48 am
    they really are an organisation beyond redemption.

    We’ve discussed many times to difficulty of privatising the ABC, or reforming it. Perhaps radical surgery, if not defunding, would do the job. Reduce their budget to allow purely regional services, and even then keep a close eye on what they’re up to. Plenty of trouble can be caused in the regions by environmental zealots.

    Blogstrop:

    Selling/closing down isn’t going to happen (at least, certainly not in the short term), but there are other options.

    Put all ABC news and current affairs (except brief hourly updates of five minutes duration maximum, including sports and weather) on News 24.

    Make News 24 a pay TV channel, so those who like this rubbish can pay for it themselves and continue to receive their necessary dose of hate stimulation.

    Reduce the general budget by a suitable amount (say, 300,000 viewers, as the ABC’s supporters here claim it is very popular, so this should be a low number) by $25 per month subscription sounds reasonable.

    The general taxpayers get $90 million pa to take off the deficit, or go to defence, health et al.

    Win all round!

  96. candy

    The whole thing makes you realise just how slack Malcolm Turnbull has been. Really, it’s a failure of the communications minister to let things get to the stage where the national broadcaster gives a platform to a terrorist sympathiser.

    Government just needs to boycott that show and move on. Nothing good will come of appearing on it and it will get very bitter. Indeed, their audience/Tony Jones make no bones about it, they despise conservative government.

  97. Toiling Mass

    The only other raison d’etre that the ABC has been able to claim has been taken off them:

    The BBC now has its own channel to show their programs – BBC First.

  98. Robbo

    Sydney Boy
    #1718482, posted on June 24, 2015 at 4:12 am
    Shut.it.down.

    Australia will be much better off without it.

    I assume you are talking about the whole organisation and not just Q&A. If so then I agree with you and the sooner it is done the better.

  99. Habib

    Yes to all but #5. Rpeeal the enabling legislation, revoke its licence, auction its assets, and sell staff to ISIS. Fixed, and easy as well.

  100. Gilas

    @1234
    Funny man/woman/LGBT/trannie!
    Always brings a smile.
    Keep going bro!

  101. Boambee John

    ACTOldFart
    #1718573, posted on June 24, 2015 at 8:53 am
    Its bloated, lazy, complacent, relentlessly mediocre, with a distinct favouring of the extreme left, treachery and terrorism. I’m talking about the whole organisation, not just its Chief Executive.

    In a supposedly multicultural society, the ABC stands as an example of monoculturism, not just in its thought processes, but in its largely white on-air “talent”.

  102. Ros

    Ant Mallah has got a video on homosexuality. To save you the pain of watching it, homosexuality as a thought is not a sin. Because one is homosexual because someone converted you when you were a toddler. However the “act” is a sin. So I would guess he is alright about same sex marriage if it is celibate.

    He is really quite dumb, why on earth would the ABC think that the jumbled ignorant challenged ramblings that fall helter skelter out of his mouth rated a national show which thinks itself to be for themintellectually superipr. But then, having watched the repeat, that person who Tim Blair thinks needs another pie also just opened his/her mouth and let knowledge free, even data free, rubbish to pour out. Never endingly. Poor Morris, I think that will have been the last time he subjects himself to that idiot show. The ABC crowd like to feel superior to the bogans, that show last night makes the random views of those on struggle street the work of philosophers.

  103. Boambee John

    Jaftur
    #1718600, posted on June 24, 2015 at 9:21 am
    When the alternative to the ABC is presenters like Alan Jones give me the ABC every time. If people contributing to this blog understood some economics they would understand that the main looming problem for Australia is a Current Account problem and the cure for that is re-establishing real productive (manufacturing) industries rather …

    Jaftur:

    And how did the carbon [dioxide] tax help with manufacturing? And the RET? And the crazier arms of militant unionism?

    If you believe what you say above, you should be a solid Coalition voter!

  104. Boambee John

    notafan
    #1718636, posted on June 24, 2015 at 10:06 am
    Zaky mallah openly supports Jabbah el nusra a proscribed terrorist organization which is a branch of al qaeda. Of course he should be given a platform on the national brisdcaster.
    Must qanda get a convicted peddo on to discuss the merits of sex with children.
    On the ABC standard of balance they should.

    notafan:

    Check out Gerard henderson’s Media Watch Dog.

    In 1975, the Chairman of the ABC referred to paedophilia as a “phenomenon”, and defended an ABC program that tried to explain/justify it.

    Henderson has asked Spigelman to condemn this (as the ABC routinely asks george Pell to retrospectively condemn paedophilia by Catholic priests decades ago). Spigelman has declined to do so.

  105. Ubique

    ABC staff, at work or socialising, never encounter people with views that oppose their own Green-Labor view of the world, except in the case of interviewing conservative politicians. They only recruit their own kind so there is no chance of the Green-Labor culture ever changing at the ABC.

    Short of closing it, which I think is a bridge too far politically, one way of changing it would be for the Minister and the Board to insist that conservative journalists are seconded into the ABC on an “exchange program”. Thus Andrew Bolt could be brought in to run Q&A for a couple of years, and Alan Jones could front AM and PM on ABC radio. Janet Albrechtsen could act as editor of The Drum, while John O’Sullivan could run Fact Check and so on. At the same time, some ABC staff could be seconded out into the real world to encounter people and ideas that they would otherwise never do.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    The ABC are so contrite at their disgraceful behaviour that they are airing an unedited replay on ABC1 right now.

    They are escalating. Get some stones Tone.

  107. Gab

    Oh Tone was very upset just now about their ABC replaying the treasonous Q&A. He again asked them “whose side are they on?”

    That’ll teach ’em.

  108. There is no way to reform of the ABC, there is no way to hold it to account. Whatever you do the putrids will find a way around it. Setting up an external organisation for complaints and it will just eventually be hijacked by the left and all complaints ignored and all that has happened is another tax hoovering sinecure has been established. What do you do then? Set up an organisation to monitor the organisation that monitors the ABC?
    Force an equal number of conservative journalists onto all TV and radio stations? Their shows will be hijacked by “technical difficulties”, producers won’t cooperate, there will be unfounded accusations of sexual harassment from junior activists staffers, they will be bullied and ostracised out of the organisation – I know ex and current employees and believe me, bullying is endemic in the ABC, especially amongst females.
    The behemoth needs to be shut down, not privatised (which a Labor Government will just quietly fund once in power), just SHUT IT DOWN. There is no need for a national broadcaster in this day and age.
    And yes, it can be done – by a Government with a spine. Just do it quickly and efficiently in the first week of a new Government, end of story. By the time the next election comes round most people won’t even remember what ABC stands for. A few of us will remember it certainly didn’t stand for Australia.

  109. Rabz

    their ABC replaying the treasonous Q&A

    Lordy Wentworth must be fresh out of wet lettuce leaves by now.

  110. Ros

    Your point about Mallah and al qaeda notofan. The reason why he attacks ISIS, because he is of the al qaeda killer mob, and Hamas who are also enemies with ISIS. ISIS is blowing people up in Gaza as well as elsewhere. Initially Hamas tried to get the west blaming Israel, then when nobody believed that, the PA . All parties know it is ISIS affiliates. But back on message, one of the defences being advanced for this nice young man by the idiots is that he condemns ISIS. Hence bad Abbott I guess. But he is only against ISIS, as he says in another of his videos, Al Qaeda v ISIS it is called, because it ISIS kills the mujhadeen who follow true jihad, which al qaeda does. Not because it kills, just because it has lost its touch, no longer following true jihad, now an enemy of Islam. This video he says is a message for ISIS, they must be terrified, and goofballs in Australia who follow ISIS, you are criminal thugs and I have no sympathy for you or your families when you die. And he hopes ASIO watches his video.

    The other thing that gets him riled is people doing the wrong thing by him as he sees it. Like ASIO causing him to be denied a passport, hence buy gun and plan to kill. When speaking of safety in dealing with him, the ABC I would hope, are asking for him to be watched to protect their employees now that they have stuck it up him by saying on air he was wrong and that they regretted inviting him. Because watching Jones it was a crafted planned attempt to gotcha Steve and they had discussed it with Mallah. Only the moronic wild card couldn’t stay on script.

  111. Combine_Dave

    Short of closing it, which I think is a bridge too far politically, one way of changing it would be for the Minister and the Board to insist that conservative journalists are seconded into the ABC on an “exchange program”. Thus Andrew Bolt could be brought in to run Q&A for a couple of years, and Alan Jones could front AM and PM on ABC radio. Janet Albrechtsen could act as editor of The Drum, while John O’Sullivan could run Fact Check and so on. At the same time, some ABC staff could be seconded out into the real world to encounter people and ideas that they would otherwise never do.

    It’s moronic to think that the culture there could ever be changed.

    Best to close it down.

    There’s no place in the 21st century for a state funded propaganda mouth piece propaganda for either left or right.

  112. What ever it takes

    What line in the sand do the ABC need to cross before sanity is restored, it boggles your senses where their minds are at. If the boot was on the other foot, you would have all the renta crowd burning it down.

  113. When the alternative to the ABC is presenters like Alan Jones give me the ABC every time.

    Yep, the last thing the ABC need is another loony left presenter.

  114. Fisky

    Because watching Jones it was a crafted planned attempt to gotcha Steve and they had discussed it with Mallah. Only the moronic wild card couldn’t stay on script.

    Jones was well-briefed enough to know that Mallah had fought with the “Free Syrian Army” quite recently. So yeah, Jones was on board with everything and probably had input into the initial question.

  115. Crossie

    And yes, it can be done – by a Government with a spine. Just do it quickly and efficiently in the first week of a new Government, end of story. By the time the next election comes round most people won’t even remember what ABC stands for. A few of us will remember it certainly didn’t stand for Australia.

    Campaign on reform of the ABC and say often “something must be done” to have cover when the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.

  116. Infidel Tiger

    Because watching Jones it was a crafted planned attempt to gotcha Steve and they had discussed it with Mallah. Only the moronic wild card couldn’t stay on script.

    Jones’s sphincter would have screwed up tighter than a frog’s arse dipped in vinegar when Ciobo assaulted the rastajihadi with the facts of his case. All his hopes and dreams of gaining unfettered freedoms for ISIS in Australia were dashed in instant.

    If non-leftists are going to go on Q&A they must be all over their brief like an ALP leader on kids in a public toilet.

  117. thefrollickingmole

    Anyone ever tried to quantify the economic damage wreaked by the ABC when it runs it (invariably) leftist hit pieces?

    We saw the live cattle trade decimated for a few years because of an animals australia led ABC crusade.
    We are now seeing 4 Commies Corners running hit pieces on the coal industry.
    We saw the ABC legitimise the tiny % of refugee onanism activists with wall to wall coverage during the Howard years, directly leading the labours disastrous repeal of the policies that worked.
    We are now seeing them run very doggo on the Unions royal commission, which adds hundreds of millions of dollars to every large project in Australia.

    I wonder what the total of the wreckage the ABC has deliberately inflicted on Australia would total up to?

  118. Toiling Mass

    I am afraid the ABC is so entrenched in the minds of the public, most of whom are not even dimply aware of what a squalid partisan carbuncle it is.

    Add to this – the ABC has the ABC to broadcast its version of victimhood, while the government has nothing.

    They could not even rely on the commercial networks to help them – they are just retarded.

    It would take a sustained campaign to reveal to the electorate what is being done in their name.

  119. Ros

    Speaking of depraved no doubt in doing their due diligence the ABC must have further developed their understanding of Mallah’s attitude towards women, as in rape the female journalists. Can only assume that their enemies enemies are useful tools even if they are foul mouthed misogynists. Wonder if they told him to tone it down for the program.

    Anyway a journalist for an online paper for the gay community expressed his solidarity but felt that his rape comment was a little damaging and needed clarifying. Gay guy mates with Mallah, or so he thinks.

    So Zaky repled today,
    “It’s self explanatory. They are both idiots-all for ratings and yes islamophobes. Newscorp whores.” Followed an hour or so later with “I stand by my gracious words of [email protected] and her counterpart Miranda D are News Corp Whores. Yours Truly.”

    And like all of these jihadists that are joining the terror groups because they legitimise their sadistic murderous behaviours and in particular their pleasure in attacking women, his interest in matters sex are creepy. So to a twit tweeting about how he is worried he is under pressure so to remember his space and pull back when necessary and find peace,

    “I am handling it like an orgasim. Its wild. Climax. But good!”
    His spelling not mine.

    And now this gem.
    “I have been on Q&A 3 times as an audience member. I was approved to ask my question 2 years ago. But time run out.”

    So you have kept up with him Tony, know him well it seems.

  120. Fisky

    And now this gem.
    “I have been on Q&A 3 times as an audience member. I was approved to ask my question 2 years ago. But time run out.”

    Without any security checks at all, despite having been jailed for death threats against public official. Simply amazing. The ABC should be regarded as a terrorist syndicate and shut down immediately.

  121. Infidel Tiger

    Once again we are getting a very public display that the left do not understand free speech.

    Rhys Muldoon is even tweeting that News Corp is publicly funded because Rupert minimises tax.

    They really are thickos.

  122. notafan

    Yes Ros
    It should be quite clear that Mallah’s objection to islamic state is merely because he supports the other team and FSA was his cover for accompanying el nusra/al qaeda troops on the front line.
    I’ve seen his home videos before, if he were not enarmoured of islam he would have made the perfect labor politician.
    He understands the terror laws well enough to avoid being charged over that trip. Does he currently hold a valid passport.
    He is a loose cannon who owns a CIA drone, what next for mallah?

  123. Lysander

    It’s worth remembering that Zaky sought approval from Sheik Zoud in 2005 to become a suicide bomber in Lebanon against non-Muslim targets. This information was received through taps obtained by ASIO. Zoud was on the US Terrorist Watchlist at the time.

  124. Ros

    His tweet re being a regular was just a few moments ago. Hope the ABC is reading him.

    Watching the re run I properly heard him, as in “I was the first” .. That is what he is about. If I was you ABC I would hope he doesn’t develop a first thought in relation to you.

    As Graeme Morris said the legislators have to do the best they can to save Australian lives. They probably don’t mean to, but the ABC does the best it can to stop them. Then foolishly abandon their favoured wanna be terrorist.

  125. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #1718779, posted on June 24, 2015 at 12:22 pm
    Once again we are getting a very public display that the left do not understand free speech.

    Rhys Muldoon is even tweeting that News Corp is publicly funded because Rupert minimises tax.

    They really are thickos.

    His stupidity is offensive.

  126. Crossie

    And now this gem.
    “I have been on Q&A 3 times as an audience member. I was approved to ask my question 2 years ago. But time run out.”

    So the ABC has a register of tried and true candidates for their live studio audience and then they just cherry pick the desired types to suit the topics.

    Things have certainly changed since the days of the Mike Walsh Show and their happy-go-lucky approach to studio audiences.

  127. Crossie

    As Graeme Morris said the legislators have to do the best they can to save Australian lives. They probably don’t mean to, but the ABC does the best it can to stop them. Then foolishly abandon their favoured wanna be terrorist.

    I am not inclined to be that generous to the ABC.

  128. nilk

    Waleed Aly has exposed Mallah for what he really is. We have all seen in Q&A what he and those who clapped for him stands for. I am sure the law enforcement agencies will now watch him for his moves, if not already. I hope senses prevail among other deranged individuals in the community.

    Rubbish. Panda’s appearance on The Project wasn’t about Waleed exposing him. Not in the way a lot of people seem to think. It’s all about the Ummah for these two. As Zak said, he doesn’t support ISIS. He’d rather a khilafa here at home nice and peaceful like.

    Wally gets to sharpen his credentials as the very model of a modern muslim moderate, and Panda gets to tell those with the ears to hear to bide their time and hang loose. He was given plenty of time, with the idiot blondes there to provide an opening for him.

    This morning on Triple M they played the QandA recording of Panda’s pontificating (missed the comments as I was at the servo filling the car), but it didn’t appear to generate much discussion. There was a song, and then Eddie had to change the topic to domestic violence and read a story from The Aged about a fellow who’d been given a slap on the wrist even though he’d terrorised girls and women in his family over a period of twenty years.

    Oh, and Rosie Batty, AOTY.

    Yes, I dropped the c-bomb in the car.

  129. C.L.

    As Graeme Morris said the legislators have to do the best they can to save Australian lives. They probably don’t mean to, but the ABC does the best it can to stop them.

    Why is anyone surprised?

    The Australian left has supported all of Australia’s enemies for three quarters of a century. They backed Hitler, segued to Stalin after the collapse of Nazi-Soviet Pact, supported the North Koreans, the terrorist invaders of South Vietnam, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.

  130. Tom

    The left is already two-thirds of the way through destroying Fairfax as a credible news organisation (SMH, Age and even AFR), having turned it into a manufacturer of doctrine by a politburo of Alinskyists whose every utterance has to be second-guessed (like Pravda in the 1980s), leaving just a couple of far left websites (Crikey, Graniaud) to fill the fruitcake vacuum once FXJ bleeds itself dry.

    Now, In less than a week, the ABC has trashed its public trust; everyone in bogan voterland now knows the ABC is barracking for Labor, the Greens and foreign enemies who want to indiscriminately blow up Lindt Cafes all over the country. Everything – EVERYTHING – the left touches turns to shit.
    And, because the left runs on infantile emotionalism, it is too fucking stupid to understand that the Q&A fiasco’s ramifications for public security have made its big government free-money sponsor, the Liars Pardee, virtually unelectable in 2016. Next Tuesday’s Newspoll will have AbbottSatan’s LNP level-pegging or ahead for the first time since 2013.

  131. john constantine

    “I disagree, privatisation of Telecom (Telstra), Commonwealth Bank or Qantas was not overturned when governments changed. Once it’s gone it’s gone.”

    Their ruddfilth/redfilth/ruddfilth government nationalised the communications market through ‘telecom mark two’ the hundred billion dollar unionised dinosaur National Broadband Network.

  132. Ros

    This man certaimly kmows how to get the media to put him out there. An interview with rt in 2013 for example. Interesting that he is out there as an accredited spokeman for some bit of FSA, don’t believe they were able to put up an organised front, would assume nusrah bit. But obviously well in with the bastards.

    Free Syrian Army (FSA) spokesperson Zaky Mallah’s interview with RT confirmed Kochavi’s concerns, saying that Syrian opposition is willing to accept support from anyone, be it “Bin Laden” or “Hitler”.

    “The situation in Syria with the opposition is complicated. Al-Qaeda took the advantage and they thought: ‘we are going to step in’, if their own brothers are being killed by this tyrant and the world is not doing nothing about it”, Mallah said.

    Some Western states, including the UK, have so far backtracked on their arms supply to the opposition – voicing concerns about the threat of extremists in Syria.

    But Mallah explained that the opposition does not fear losing Western support.

    “Because a prime minister of some Western country says ‘there is extremism within the opposition’, it is not a justifiable reason not to help the moderates,” he argued.”

    I assume the some Prime Minister is a shot at Abbott for his bad guys and bad guys.

    Another interesting item which I was not able to verify as the you tube informed me video was private.

    The first is by Zaky Mallah. He boasts of being Australia’s first Islamic terrorist. The tone of his voice is one of contempt for the non-Islamic world and he deliberately blows smoke into the camera to reinforce his message of disdain and scorn. Mallah arrogantly claims that Islam will be spread throughout Australia. He beats his fist into his hand while stating that ‘on his watch’ Islam will take on all who interfere. And then comes the ominous and loaded warning to one Nathan Abela: his anti-Islamic actions have not gone unnoticed by the very many Muslim bikies. He names at least three different bikie groups. Abela should watch out.” 2014

    As it seems the ABC has a longbyerm relationship with Zaky it seems incredible that they are not across all this stuff about him. Or horrifying they are not.

  133. Ros

    Nathan Abela is a fruit cake who was leader of the Australian Defence league at some stage I think.

  134. incoherent rambler

    Preamble to next Q&A –

    “And on tonights show we have our own bomber and beheader, Wiley Rat.
    Come on down Wiley!
    I am sure all of the masked members of tonight’s audience will have lots of questions and will be keen to get some inside tips.
    I am obliged to point out that we did ask the PM to join us on tonights show, but he declined saying he was unable to arrange a military escort in time. Waheely Bin has kindly consented to fill in for the PM in his absence.

    [someone else can fill in the rest of the show]

  135. Ros

    In April 2014 the ABC seven thirty report did a piece on the Australian Defence League and Abela being shot at. And who was one of their go to Muslim activists for comment, Zaky.

    “ZAKY MALLAH: I was surprised that it happened, but I was more surprised that it didn’t happen sooner.

    SEAN RUBINSZTEIN-DUNLOP: Muslim activist Zaky Mallah says the ADL was looking for trouble.

    ZAKY MALLAH: I think everything that Nathan Abela and Ralph have done has built up to the point where an individual or a group of individuals have taken the laws into their own hand and decided to do something about it.

    ZAKY MALLAH, MUSLIM ACTIVIST: Hey, Nathan? You and your other ADL thugs … we will take you on, nose to nose.”

    Tne ABC’s relationship with Zaky seems to be quite close. Less and less likely it was coincidence he had been on q&a 3 times before or that they are not extremely well informed about him and his views.

  136. rich

    Wally gets to sharpen his credentials as the very model of a modern muslim moderate, and Panda gets to tell those with the ears to hear to bide their time and hang loose. He was given plenty of time, with the idiot blondes there to provide an opening for him.

    Yup, it wasn’t a confrontation. It was damage control- trying to undo the pin dropping.

  137. Infidel Tiger

    Hahaha!:

    John SafranVerified account
    [email protected]

    “I’m a man who keeps a woman hostage down a hole & dances around in a human skin suit… who hates Tony Abbott!” *Q&A audience applauds*

  138. calli

    Less and less likely it was coincidence he had been on q&a 3 times before or that they are not extremely well informed about him and his views.

    So they’re lying.

    In attempting to explore important issues about the rights of citizens and the role of the Government in fighting terrorism, the Q&A program made an error in judgement in allowing Zaky Mallah to join the audience and ask a question.

    Mr Mallah has been interviewed by the Australian media on a number of occasions. The environment of a live television broadcast, however, meant it would not be possible for editorial review of the comments he might make prior to broadcast, particularly if he engaged in debate beyond his prepared question.

    It’s cunningly worded, naturally. Of course they couldn’t know what he would say outside the vetted and approved question, but they would have a pretty good idea. And don’t forget, Jones waltzed him into those comments “beyond his prepared question”. It was only when it went pear shaped that Jones pulled the plug.

  139. Bad Samaritan

    Here is a quote you can all consider……from Miranda D’s blog…..

    “Last August Mallah posted a disturbing video on YouTube in which he made sexually graphic suggestions about me, abused The Daily Telegraph and spewed anti-Semitic abuse against a colleague.

    He signed off: “I am a Sydney Morning Herald believer. Fairfax allegiance and I don’t like none of your News limited a..holes out there… this is me, Zaky Mallah, Australia’s first terrorist and acquitted.”

  140. thefrollickingmole

    IT

    I like Safran, hes a strange creature and all over the shop, but hes pretty equal opportunity in his sledging.

    Thats a classic.

    “Hello Im convicted multiple paedo Rolf Harris, a nd the ABC has organised day release for me to wander the play school set say, Tony Abbott is worse than me” applause.

  141. calli

    Also from Devine’s column:

    In fact, Q&A is a platform designed to betray the national interest. It uses the credibility of the ABC’s prestigious taxpayer funded news division to elevate fringe views into mainstream respectability.

    Sam de Brito (SMH) takes the opposite view:

    I applaud the ABC for continuing to expose the Australian psyche to unpopular and dangerous opinions. The only thing they got wrong Monday night was Tony Jones’ cringe-worthy apology that someone actually said something unpalatable.

    As a country we shouldn’t fear people saying things that offend, horrify or disgust us.

    Maybe Sam hasn’t received horrible threats of public rape.

  142. A Lurker

    As a country we shouldn’t fear people saying things that offend, horrify or disgust us.

    Then why does the Left continually censor comments from Conservatives?

  143. candy

    The Left were horrified by Tony Abbott’s wink and said he should resign as being unfit.

    But a terrorist sympathiser is good to go.

  144. S'

    The line Abbot is taking of whose side are you on won’t have as much traction as simply saying why would you have a guy convicted of threatening Commonwealth officials and had a rifle ask a question to a minister in a live audience?

  145. P

    He signed off: “I am a Sydney Morning Herald believer. Fairfax allegiance and I don’t like none of your News limited a..holes out there… this is me, Zaky Mallah, Australia’s first terrorist and acquitted.”

    He replied to Steve Ciobo on Monday night with the words:
    Rubbish. Rubbish.

    I think I’d best not comment further.

  146. Pete of Perth

    Remember Cats, it’s nothing to do with islam according to the lft.

  147. Nic

    I applaud the ABC for continuing to expose the Australian psyche to unpopular and dangerous opinions. The only thing they got wrong Monday night was Tony Jones’ cringe-worthy apology that someone actually said something unpalatable.

    The thing is they don’t. If they were provocative in say having an opponent of gay marriage ask a difficult question of a gay advocate, or similar of a global warmist, I might have some sympathy for them. The problem is there are certain, numerous agendas that are not challenged at all.

  148. Habib

    I want to see some significant changes made to ‘Q&A’ because I don’t think it reflects the population’s expectation from the public broadcaster. Dutton is wrong, it reflects fully my and many others’ expectations of that feral sheltered workshop for the perpetually bewildered.

  149. Aaron

    Ben Fordham says he has evidence that the ABC paid for Zaky Mallah to get the ABC studio. Putting aside how disgusting it is for the ABC to pay a terrorist (after weeks of bitching about paying people smugglers) in the interests of disclosure shouldn’t Tony Jones inform the panel that the questioner has been paid to ask that particular question and it is not a spontaneous moment of inquiry?

  150. incoherent rambler

    Ben Fordham says he has evidence that the ABC paid for Zaky Mallah to get the ABC studio.

    Presumably the AFP is knocking at his door to get the evidence of criminal behaviour. NOT.

  151. Ros

    Aaron I would say the ABC has got itself a tiger by the tail only he is just a nasty slimey thing with a potentially poisonous bite. Nevertheless he is so addicted to attention he just can’t keep his mouth shut, and he keeps landing poison spits on the ABC not Abbott or the likes of the Australian.

  152. Alexis

    I’m new to this site, but I notice that my comment this morning in still in moderation after more than five hours. How long does it usually take?

    [Patience is a virtue. As is the ability to read http://catallaxyfiles.com/omg-my-comment-hasnt-appeared/ Sinc]

  153. egg_

    As a country we shouldn’t fear people saying things that offend, horrify or disgust us.

    Tell that to Andrew Bolt.

  154. 1234

    To all those scorched earth right wing zealots who want to shut down the ABC, I hope Abbott brings it on because the ABC enjoys a higher level of trust and support than his dysfunctional government. Nothing would please me more than to have an election fought on that issue. The ABC is more use to Abbott as a foil.

  155. Everything – EVERYTHING – the left touches turns to shit.

    Which wouldn’t be such a bad thing except that;
    1. The non-left has to pay for all the failed social engineering and Fabian BS via punitive taxation and dysfunctional, broken communities.
    2. The elite leftist pigs milk the system to the point that they can escape the consequences of 1.
    3. When it all turns to shit, the left blame the non-left and demand more money and less freedom to fix the problems they created.

    I suppose if the left had to pay for and face the consequences of their actions they wouldn’t be the left would they.

  156. Snoopy

    The ‘independent’ inquiry into our Zaky’s Q&A appearance should also investigate the ‘unplanned’ performance of that poisonous, lying hijab queen and her retinue a year or two ago. That was no less egregious.

  157. .

    1234
    #1718971, posted on June 24, 2015 at 4:04 pm
    To all those scorched earth right wing zealots who want to shut down the ABC, I hope Abbott brings it on because the ABC enjoys a higher level of trust and support than his dysfunctional government. Nothing would please me more than to have an election fought on that issue. The ABC is more use to Abbott as a foil.

    Get off the crack pipe kid. The ABC are not Ambos.

  158. egg_

    The ABC is more use to Abbott as a tin foil hat.

    FTFY.

  159. calli

    Hammy…without the elegance.

  160. Hey 1234, how come you aren’t posting as ‘strange’? Have you taken your schizo pills today?

  161. hzhousewife

    Here is a quote you can all consider……from Miranda D’s blog…..

    “Last August Mallah posted a disturbing video on YouTube in which he made sexually graphic suggestions about me, abused The Daily Telegraph and spewed anti-Semitic abuse against a colleague.

    If a classmate of a teenager posted similar material on Youtube, would a prosecution be in order? why don’t people prosecute when these foul things get put up for everyone to see? Because of “freedom of speech?
    (being an old dude, I really do not know the answer to this question).

  162. incoherent rambler

    1 – Did Q&A approach Zaky Mallah to join the show’s audience, or did he approach Q&A?
    I don’t know. I was in the toilet at the time.

    2 – Were the Q&A team aware of the general nature of the question that Zaky Mallah was going to ask?
    I can’t recall.

    3 – Did the ABC pay for Zaky Mallah to appear on Q&A?
    You would have to ask Malcom Turnbull. He is responsible for ABC funding and expenditure.

    4 – Did the ABC pay for his transport or travel to the program?
    Someone in accounts may have done that, not my department.

    5 – Can you please release the correspondence between Mallah and the ABC.
    Privacy constraints prevent me doing that. However, you may submit an FOI request and we can look at it, in due course, in the fullness of time, after lengthy deliberations and appropriate consideration.

  163. Rabz

    To all those scorched earth right wing zealots who want to shut down the ABC

    Guilty as charged, I tells ya! 🙂

  164. Fred Lenin

    This mallah or whatever his name is .needs Deraicalisation ,like those two muppets zapped inIraq ,thats permanent irreversible Deradicalisation . Wonder if the alpbc will fund the return of the bits of the freedom fighters to Australia for a Taxpayer funded State Funeral ?

  165. Muddy

    One thing to come out of this is that some of the mainstream media – at least some of the print media I’ve seen today – are willing to drift from their normal ideology (albeit very tentatively) if there is something in it for them. So it is possible, though an uphill task, to defuse or water down media support for our enemies. The best tactic would be to choose a media target and somehow make it beneficial for other media outlets to turn on their own. I’m not sure how though just yet.

    Now is the opportunity for someone in the government to make a name for themselves as a political attack-dog or enforcer, and repeatedly question Labor’s support for the ABC now and in the past, using examples (Op Sovereign Borders, though it is ‘old news’), and a central phrase (I’m thinking something not quite as radical as ‘enemy of the state’ but an alternative isn’t popping up). The idea would be to make unconditional political support for the ABC a poison as groundwork for any future changes (I know, that’s wishful thinking, but if you put in the prep work, it will make support for the ABC less politically attractive in the future. Put any potential opponents on the defensive now before they put you in that position). The Year Zeros (botanical name Greenus Filthus) will of course not be budged, but the government needs to attack Labor now, and repeatedly. No let-up.

  166. john constantine

    To all those swampy taxleeches that feel they have the right to steal money from the federal budget to pay for the vanity project that is their abc.

    –socialists are fuckers–

  167. john constantine

    How about the islamic youth deradicalisation project be folded into their abc?.

    Funding for deradicalisation is on a ‘whatever it takes’ basis.

    Just not one cent extra money for their abc, they can cut whatever it takes to fund the social good of deradicalising the demographic convoy they insisted on importing.

    If radical islamists need a job, they can be employed by their abc, and work with their abc experts that know what has something to do with real islam, and what has nothing to do with islam.

  168. Linden

    Precisely, why is the Australia tax payer being forced to pay for this, is this day and age with the technology available to everyone, who needs it?

  169. Econocrat

    From the Criminal Code Act 1995:


    103.2 Financing a terrorist

    (1) A person commits an offence if:

    (a) the person intentionally:

    (i) makes funds available to another person (whether directly or indirectly); or

    (ii) collects funds for, or on behalf of, another person (whether directly or indirectly); and

    (b) the first?mentioned person is reckless as to whether the other person will use the funds to facilitate or engage in a terrorist act.

    Penalty: Imprisonment for life.

    (2) A person commits an offence under subsection (1) even if:

    (a) a terrorist act does not occur; or

    (b) the funds will not be used to facilitate or engage in a specific terrorist act; or

    ( c) the funds will be used to facilitate or engage in more than one terrorist act.

    The Feds need to get down to Ultimo now!

  170. strange

    To all those swampy taxleeches that feel they have the right to steal money from the federal budget to pay for the vanity project that is their abc.

    Those who want a publicly funded ABC happen to be a majority of the Australian population. Oppositions do what their numbers allow, and in the case of those who want to shut down the ABC, you do not have them.Tough! It may surprise some here that many in Australia like some services to be provided collectively. Get used to it.

  171. Sydney Boy

    strange – It may surprise some here that many in Australia like some services to be provided collectively.

    The only service #theirabc provides is stoking A666ott hatred.

  172. Gab

    Those who want a publicly funded ABC happen to be a majority of the Australian population.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Strange1234, liar, always.

  173. notafan

    I think privatization is the sensible option. No coverage of events like the recent massive anti gay marriage rally in Rome but constant parading of the pro same sex marriage agenda shows how deep the bias is.
    None of the art house or foreign language product isn’t available somewhere else.
    The government can hang on to a bandwidth for emergency service broadcasts and make the rest a subscription service.

    300,000 rally in Rome against gay marriage.

  174. notafan

    How many Australians watch or listen to the ABC, again?

  175. strange

    “The only service #theirabc provides is stoking A666ott hatred.”

    Ha, ha, ha. Abbott hatred? You must be joking, compared to the pasting Gillard always got Abbott is a protected species – gushed on by Fran Kelly whenever he appears on her program, not to mention Leigh Sales. That’s the problem with the LNP – they all have a glass jaw.

  176. Sydney Boy

    strange1234: Living in an alternate reality. As always, the difference is that my taxes pay for the ABC and it is legislated to provide a balanced view – which it doesn’t. Shut it down. And then arse-clowns like yourself can pay for your own green-left-luvvie fix.

  177. strange

    “When Essential asked respondents to rate their trust in sixteen institutions and organisations in March 2013, the High Court rated highest at 74 per cent; the ABC came second, at 70 per cent, ahead of the Reserve Bank (64 per cent) and charitable organisations (52 per cent). The TV news media came in ninth, at 30 per cent, and newspapers were eleventh, at 27 per cent. The same question had been asked two years in a row, and the ABC’s rating has been heading up, while TV news and newspapers remained broadly flat.”

    I am just waiting for the election campaign where Abbott proposes to abolish the ABC. As usual, most at Catallaxy are just dreaming (or more likely pulling their puds).

  178. Tom

    Abbott is a protected species – gushed on by Fran Kelly whenever he appears on her program

    AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Now THAT’S a better brand of delusional troll. Don’t fuck around with the decaf soy latte: get straight onto the brain-fucking KoolAid.

    I love the way the swampfilth think the extreme left is the middle of the road.

    His next line will be that “studies” have shown Their ABC is biased to the Right.

  179. Ivan Denisovich

    How many Australians watch or listen to the ABC, again?

    The latest:

    AUDIENCES across the board have turned off the national broadcaster at three times the rate of commercial channels, ratings figures show.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/their-abc-viewers-turned-off-aunty-in-2014/story-fnki1jcy-1227192436705

  180. notafan

    So 70 % trust the ABC but only 10% watch it.
    Very strange numbers.

  181. Squirrel

    I agree with those who say it would be a bridge too far politically to abolish the ABC – the legislation would never get through the Senate.

    But there is no reason why it could not be restructured and cut down to size:

    1. take away all the funding for programs other than a no-nonsense news and current/rural affairs function;

    2. provide a portion of the current non-news program budget to a separate body – with a small board with people with private sector media experience – which would commission, on a competitive basis, a modest selection of programs of interest and relevance to Australia

    3. the residue would justify one TV channel, and a somewhat reduced range of radio channels

    4. people who mainly watch the ABC for those nice BBC/ITV programs can get them elsewhere – online or on DVD/BluRay.

    There would be substantial recurrent savings to the federal Budget, and people who are committed to an “independent national broadcaster” (cough, cough, cough) for news and current affairs (but not for politically tendentious info-tainment) would still have that in their lives.
    This process could be started without changing legislation – the Government could simply decide that, in future, the Budget will only include sufficient funding to run the bare bones news/current/rural affairs function and if a majority in the Senate cares to authorise the necessary changes for a separate entertainment program commissioning body, then funding for that will be provided, too – but the status quo of a billion dollar plus per year behemoth is not an option.

  182. strange

    This whole business shows how crap Abbott is and his bunch of merry dancing clowns. If he didn’t have the ABC to bash and create a distraction (or muslims, refugees, the unemployed, those not part of Team Australia etc etc) he wouldn’t know what to do. He is a complete and utter empty vessel when it comes to policy. .

  183. strange

    “So 70 % trust the ABC but only 10% watch it.
    Very strange numbers.”
    There is also something called radio. Have a chat with a Nationals MP and ask if they would be happy with the ABC disappearing.

  184. john constantine

    So seventy percent of people tell the lefty fanatic doing the survey that they trust their abc.

    It turns out that under ten percent actually watch the dreariness lectures when the ratings are measured [including Doctor Who and the BBC product]

    Socialists are lying fuckers.

  185. Tom

    At least we know the troll has never spent a single day in the Canberra bear pit … or even a day in the real world. So which side of Darling Street, Balmain, is your million-dollar house on?

  186. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hammy is rolling in his grave.

  187. P

    It is a long time since the days of:
    “if James Dibble said it, it must be true”.

  188. john constantine

    Their swampfilth abc loved spending taxpayer dollars to run election campaigns for socialist rural independants, like the stalinist of Indi.

    The amount of social capital their abc squandered to kill off the hated Mirrabella was phyrric.

    Their abc are socialists, and socialists are lying swampfilth fuckers.

  189. Stimpson J. Cat

    It may surprise some here that many in Australia like some services to be provided collectively. Get used to it.

    How many times did you type “Get Up” before you realized you wanted to type “Get used to it”, Strange?

  190. Des Deskperson

    ‘When Essential asked respondents to rate their trust in sixteen institutions and organisations in March 2013, the High Court rated highest at 74 per cent; the ABC came second, at 70 per cent’

    Yet last night, 23 June, even with ratings boost from The Killing Season, ABC TV could only manage 15.2% of viewers. Usually it’s around 12 %.

  191. A Lurker

    Strange and neo-numbers seem to both howling moonbats.

    Are we certain that they are not satire accounts?

  192. So 70 % trust the ABC but only 10% watch it.
    Very strange numbers.

    No, just the dumbfuck Strangenumbers hasn’t figured out that the only people who can say they trust the ABC are the ones who actually watch it – the 10% of the population, so it can be inferred that only 7% of the entire population trust the ABC, I guess the 3% are the masochists and John Constantine.
    It’s rather like asking people who eat chocolate ice cream whether they like chocolate ice cream.
    Close it down and nobody will even remember the ABC by the following month – and those that do will never vote for the Coalition anyway. Once people realise the other stations will pick up the BBC shows and anything else viable (probably only Good Game and Peppa) they will wonder what all the fuss was about over shutting the cesspit down.

  193. Oh come on

    The aim was to embarrass the government but has done only damage to itself. The last straw, one hopes, but at the very least it is the next-to-last straw.

    Not a chance. It’s like that time Triggs, with the most dubious of timing, released that children in detention report. A bunch of people here were certain she was finished. If anything, her position is stronger now than before. As will the ABC’s be if this government tries to cut it down to size. This government is just not up to the task and would stumble at the first hurdle. No, the ABC needs to be taken head on by a government led by someone with Thatcherite zeal. Do any of the current mob in Cabinet fit the bill? I don’t think so.

  194. Old Ranga

    The whole disgusting stuffup has certainly stirred people up. There are 195 comments preceding this one. But I’m cynical enough to expect the Board and the ABC management to just duck their heads until it all blows over.

  195. Aussiepundit

    This is outrageous.
    The reasons.
    – the ABC paid for Mallah’s appearance
    -. the ABC broadcast a message on the screen urging people to take up arms against the government;
    -. even putting the payment aside, the ABC gave publicity to an advocate of IS.

    The way to do this is just keep up the pressure. But how?
    Keep pushing, publicly, for more information.
    Who made the decision to pay Mallah?
    Who authorised the payment, and who knew about it?
    Where did the money come from?
    How was the payment transacted?
    How often does QandA pay for guests to appear and ask questions?
    Who was the person who put the ‘get a gun’ tweet on the screen?

    etc.

  196. Tel

    Jones’s sphincter would have screwed up tighter than a frog’s arse dipped in vinegar when Ciobo assaulted the rastajihadi with the facts of his case. All his hopes and dreams of gaining unfettered freedoms for ISIS in Australia were dashed in instant.

    Tip off perhaps?

    Maybe ASIO recently hired some bright, bushy-tailed youngsters with the urge to be efficient or something.

  197. Tel

    Nothing the ABC does surprises me anymore. Their anti-Government stance is astonishing.

    Hey, you take that back! Nothing wrong with being anti-government, after all those terrorists still have a lot of catching up to do if they want to kill as many innocent people as government has done. That said, I’m sure the terrorists are held back by lack of ability rather than lack of inclination.

  198. duncanm

    It may surprise some here that many in Australia like some services to be provided collectively.

    like the sewerage system. Even that is charged on a user basis.

  199. Aussiepundit

    This event is a cotton thread that landed in the government’s lap.
    If they tug at it they’ll find out how much of the jumper unravels.

  200. JC

    So 70 % trust the ABC but only 10% watch it.
    Very strange numbers.

    Polls like that are basically worthless. Outside of election pols all other polls are pretty much of no value. How was the question drafted. What came before that question.

    I bet I could compose a question or series of them that would show 70% of the public would want the leftwing loon house to shut down.

  201. Gab

    Nice analogy, Duncanm. Accurate too.

  202. notafan

    It’s a laughable statement which really means;
    we are happy to have the service we like subsidised by others against their will.
    The only TV service that is worse is the BBC that sees people in gaol for not paying the fine for not paying their compulsory subscription.
    Strangenumbers would love that.

  203. Ros

    I struggle to understand it, but NZ took to its public broadcaster with gusto. Not sure how I feel about it because I couldn’t understand how it worked when there. But the model does have some appeal, in that they/it has to compete and do a lot of its own funding. And maybe the dispersal across all of the rest of some responsibility would prevent the Senate knocking it back on behalf of the tv stations as they just did to sbs ‘s funding’ or rather advertising and hence danger they would compete, or broadcast what people wanted.

    “In New Zealand all broadcasters are given a small slice of public broadcasting responsibility, because of the state-funded agency NZ On Air. This is because of NZ On Air’s requirement for public-service programmes across all channels and stations, instead of being put into one single network. The former public broadcaster BCNZ (formerly NZBC – New Zealand Broadcasting Corporation) was broken up into separate state-owned corporations, Television New Zealand (TVNZ) and Radio New Zealand (RNZ). While RNZ remains commercial-free, about 90% of funding for TVNZ comes from selling advertising during programmes on their two stations.[26] TVNZ continues to be a public broadcaster; however like CBC Television in Canada it is essentially a fully commercial network in continuous ratings battles with other stations, which continues to be a controversial issue within New Zealand. With the shutdown of TVNZ 7, the only fully non-commercial public-service network in New Zealand is Radio New Zealand.”

  204. Ros

    The numbers are very odd. What inspires people to agree they trust the ABC whan they never or hardly ever watch it. Maybe because a reasonanle person can’t declare it untrustworthy if they don’t watch it. The question needs adjusting.

  205. Aussiepundit

    oh my god.

    Former ABC Media Watch host and media columnist Jonathon Holmes defended the broadcaster and said Mallah’s radical views were from when he was a stupid young man, and he now did not support Islamic State.

    “This is precisely the kind of guy we need to help us stop the kids being recruited by ISIS,” he said of Mallah. “He’s the sort of person Abbott should be welcoming rather than dismissing as an enemy of the people.”

    It’s time to end the lie that IS are nothing but a bunch of wayward, impressionable youth, and that social workers will cure them.
    They are not. They are much, much more than that.

    Nobody said that about communists or fascists. They were not dismissed as silly youthful exuberance. Those ideologies, while feared and denounced, were at least treated as serious movements. The infantilising of ISIS is not a winning strategy, it is denial.

  206. notafan

    Holmes is lazy /stupid.
    Mallah just barracks for the Jabbah el Nusra team.

  207. notafan

    Remember islamic state murdered the el nusra aligned Queensland beauty and her husband in a factional dispute in Aleppo.
    Hope that rivalry doesn’t get played out here.

  208. Adelagado

    An incredibly irresponsible act by the ABC to let a known terror risk into a packed studio with a live broadcast. Was he patted down? Did he go through a metal detector? Did sniffer dogs give him the once over? Man Monis would have killed for a stage like this.

  209. Zippy The Younger

    SHUT IT DOWN!!

    The idea that government should own a media empire is absurd 1950’s garbage. That this very organisation aligns itself with socialists and communists is treason.

  210. JohnA

    Rabz #1719062, posted on June 24, 2015 at 5:22 pm quoting “little numbers”

    To all those scorched earth right wing zealots who want to shut down the ABC

    Guilty as charged, I tells ya! 🙂

    Hey, Little Numbers, as an alternative, we rwz’s will sell it to you, so you can enjoy all the free speech you want.

    Just don’t expect us to
    a) go on any of those current affairs or news shows
    b) buy any advertising on it or
    c) bail you out when it goes broke.

    K?

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Jones’s sphincter would have screwed up tighter than a frog’s arse dipped in vinegar when Ciobo assaulted the rastajihadi with the facts of his case. All his hopes and dreams of gaining unfettered freedoms for ISIS in Australia were dashed in instant.
    .
    Tip off perhaps?

    I’m not sure what sort of tip off you are talking about.
    Are you suggesting that Ciobo was given a heads-up by someone in the ABC?
    He seemed to be well prepared which means:-
    (1) He has very good memory;
    (2) The muzzy fuckwit is prominent on the ASIO radar and politicians had been given detailed briefings on him;
    (3) someone in the ABC tipped Ciobo off about what was happening.

  212. strange

    Alert, alert

    With Zippy The Younger – we have now reached peak stupid here.
    Communication ends…..

  213. Aussiepundit

    And now Mallah has a national stage.
    He’s been given a prominent voice in the Guardian, thanks directly to his appearance on the ABC.
    Thanks, ABC.

  214. Apparently this is the ABC bus that they use to pick up the Q&A partisans audience.

  215. Tom

    we have now reached peak stupid here.

    I love watching fucktard tax-eating scum’s heads explode at the thought they have spent their entire lives stealing someone else’s money.

  216. Splatacrobat

    I bet I could compose a question or series of them that would show 70% of the public would want the leftwing loon house to shut down.

    Poll question: If Andrew Bolt were to replace Tony Jones would you want the ABC shut down?
    YES
    NO

    Give the loons a Hobson’s choice JC

  217. Rob MW

    There’s not much more that one can say that has not already been said, other than……. up the fucking Muslim psychos……come on, get over there and murder a few more of your brethren….. last chance to have some fucking fun.

  218. strange

    I love watching fucktard tax-eating scum’s heads explode at the thought they have spent their entire lives stealing someone else’s money.

    As I said – peak stupid has been reached

  219. strange

    …. and pants wetting and mouth frothing has begun.

  220. Aaron

    Tip off perhaps?

    During the Howard years Ciobo was a government member of the Joint Standing Committee on Intelligence and Security so it is very likely he would have been briefed then on Zaky Mallah and the case against him. Their ABC very likely chose the wrong MP to attempt that sort of gotcha on.

  221. JC

    Poll question: If Andrew Bolt were to replace Tony Jones would you want the ABC shut down?
    YES
    NO

    Give the loons a Hobson’s choice JC

    Lol, perfect question choice.

  222. Rob MW

    “…. and pants wetting and mouth frothing has begun.”

    Please return your hammer & sickle immediately; the late fees are bankrupting the country and society.

  223. Splatacrobat

    Their ABC very likely chose the wrong MP to attempt that sort of gotcha on.

    Lucky it wasn’t Lord Wentworth, he would have flattened Mallah in the rush to get Snowcone’s autograph.

  224. Leigh Lowe

    During the Howard years Ciobo was a government member of the Joint Standing Committee on Intelligence and Security so it is very likely he would have been briefed then on Zaky Mallah and the case against him. Their ABC very likely chose the wrong MP to attempt that sort of gotcha on.

    Ah, that might explain the return of serve that would do credit to Andre Agassi.
    I guess it was surprising mainly because we have become so used to floundering Liberal MPs constantly worried about upsetting some fucking 0.01% minority that they stand there like those open-mouthed sideshow clowns waiting for a ping-pong ball to be dropped down their throat.

  225. wreckage

    strange, if the phrase
    “National, official government-owned Youth Radio Station” doesn’t sound like a punchline to you, you’re disqualified from … well, further pointless non-sequiturs, I suppose.

  226. john constantine

    Their abc is nothing more than a local council, gifted with the right to squander a billion dollars a year of taxpayers money.

    Every queasy and shifty little rort that local councils do, their abc indulges in.

    Giving the good jobs and contracts to maaaates, family and those they want to get in the pants of.

    Disregarding facts and skills requiring tasks in favour of stuff that is clean and easy and makes you feel good to boast that you ‘care about’

    Demanding even more money to ‘save the planet’

    Bullying out of the system anybody that doesn’t fall in line.

    Using the system to persecute members of the public that don’t comply with the politics of the system

    Let them keep doing it, just let them be fully independant–of all regulation as long as they self fund.

  227. Zhan Pintu

    Producers and their anchor ‘persons’ are really just interested in ratings. The idea of a decent debate without squawked comments from the ‘host’ ‘moderator’ ‘lacky’ are rather hopeful. The day may come back when interviewers, hosts, journalists and other self serving commentators actually take a ‘non biased’ approach to moderating . . . . but the ABC would need a cataclysmic shake-up. Having said that other media outlets have their ‘favourite’ rating subjects too and biases. Deviant [defined as deviating from the ‘normal’] heterosexual relationships has been artfully redefined to encapsulate anyone who does not ‘endorse’ the homosexual lobby group’s rantings for ‘equality’. Homophobes are obviously ‘beyond the pale’ even if it includes those that just politely chose to disagree. If you disagree you are ‘a homophobe’. The media needs accept a new definition: ‘a christophobe’ describing all those who disagree with Christianity. . . . but don’t hold your breath . . . . Church leaders are generally not active in social comment nor guiding Christians so why should the media. To finish on a rather more contentious note a friend many years ago defined ‘journalists’ to me as “Those that come down from the hills after the battle and bayonet the wounded.”

  228. Oh come on

    An incredibly irresponsible act by the ABC to let a known terror risk into a packed studio with a live broadcast. Was he patted down? Did he go through a metal detector? Did sniffer dogs give him the once over? Man Monis would have killed for a stage like this.

    Sorry but considering the vast majority of the Q&A audience are lefty morons who mindlessly clapped mental midget Zaky Mallah until he delivered the rhetorical coup de grace to himself, I’m not terribly concerned about their wellbeing. I think it would have been perfect if the dopey fucker blew himself up live on Q&A. Just perfect. Now *that* would have spelt the end of the ABC as we know it.

  229. Oh come on

    Anyway, why is Zaky wearing a cap with what appears to be a gold ganja leaf on it? I thought Mohamedans weren’t allowed to go in for such things.

  230. .

    strange
    #1719119, posted on June 24, 2015 at 6:17 pm

    Those who want a publicly funded ABC happen to be a majority of the Australian population.

    Bullshit. You’re not only dishonest but you and your ideas are unpopular (undemocratic), and they would not get far in a republic.

  231. .

    The media needs accept a new definition: ‘a christophobe’ describing all those who disagree with Christianity

    Do you believe in a begotten son or transubstantiation?

    Your argument wouldn’t get very far.

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