“Heads should roll”

At least it’s a start on what needs to be done. So far, it’s only about Q&A. The story from The Australian:

Tony Abbott says “heads should roll” at the ABC after the broadcaster “betrayed” Australia by repeatedly broadcasting extremist Zaky Mallah’s claims that Muslims are “justified” in joining Islamic State.

The Abbott government has today launched its own investigation into Mallah’s appearance on Q&A last Monday, arguing internal ABC inquiries have often resulted in “virtual whitewashes” of wrongdoing.

The Prime Minister said the broadcaster’s decision to rebroadcast Monday night’s program in full yesterday was “utterly incomprehensible”.

“Here we had the ABC admitting a gross error judgment and then compounding that terrible mistake – that betrayal, if you like, of our country by giving a platform to this convicted criminal and terrorist sympathiser – they compounded the mistake by rebroadcasting the program,” Mr Abbott said in Canberra.

“Now, frankly, heads should roll over this. Heads should roll over this. I’ve had a good discussion with the Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, I know he has made a very strong representation to the ABC.

“We’ve announced that we are not satisfied with an internal ABC inquiry because so often we’ve seen virtual whitewashes when that sort ever thing happens. There is going to be an urgent government inquiry with recommendations, and frankly the ABC ought to take some very strong action straightaway.”

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96 Responses to “Heads should roll”

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    The biased ABC is completely in breach of its Charter and is unreformable. It should be immediately privatised or shut down. Why should taxpayers like me have to pay exorbitant salaries to activists like Jones and Holmes?

  2. Habib

    go hard, anything short of wholesale dismissals and reduced funding is completely unacceptable.

    Imagine if the BBC had’ve given Rudolf Hess some air-time in ’41. And at least he was vaguely articulate, had some actual combat time, and was genuinely seeking a cesation of hostilities.

  3. jupes

    “Now, frankly, heads should roll over this. Heads should roll over this. I’ve had a good discussion with the Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, I know he has made a very strong representation to the ABC.

    LOL

    Sure he has. Prediction: total heads rolled – zero.

  4. Washout

    Sell it.
    Now.

    I dont care if privately funded broadcasters give Wacky Mullah air time, but I do when it is publically funded.

  5. stackja

    Cut the ABC budget to one news/emergency information radio station in each locality and one news emergency information TV station in each locality and viewers/listeners can subscribe to any other programs they wish to pay for. If there is an audience for a program it will survive otherwise like commercial TV the program will cease to exist.

  6. Roberto

    I’ll be very pleased – but also very surprised – if any heads roll.

  7. Ros

    It is the appropriate moment to launch an inquiry into public broadcasting as such in Australia. What its place is now, what Australians, all Australians want, and if there is still a role for a dedicated service, how best to deliver. To look at alternative ways, better ways possibly, and how to safeguard against capture etc in this very different communications world to the one where public broadcasting emerged and took form.

  8. Fred Lenin

    Any really strong PM should be tearing Turnball a new one ,before uis dismissal.sack tge entire alpbc board scott and tge entire Q and A crew including mad mallahs driver ,before dismantling tge whole communist edifice ,selling what can be sold ,keeping country radio only .The redundant green alp types who work there can go on Work for the Dole ,they are not journalists and wouldnever get a job in private enterprise . Sbs should follow you want foreign shows get a dish . The huge sums aaved could be used to pay off some of green liebors debt they left us in

  9. I Am the Walras, Equilibrate and Price Take

    Talk talk talk. Blah blah blah.

    ‘We’ll repeal 18C’. ‘We’ll cut taxes’. ‘We’ll cut the deficit’.

    Bullshit bullshit bullshit.

    And now ‘Heads will roll’.

    I’m calling bullshit. Abbott will do frack-all. AGAIN.

  10. Fred

    The Liberals are all talk no action.

    They love complaining about the ABC, but when a bill comes before Parliament to fund the ABC, they all vote for it.

    How about NOT voting for bills that fund the ABC.

  11. I Am the Walras, Equilibrate and Price Take

    sack tge entire alpbc board scott and tge entire Q and A crew including mad mallahs driver

    That’s the spirit! No stone left unturned.

    Fred Lenin for ABC Chairman.

    Although I wouldn’t want you to be ‘editor in chief’ until they fix your spell-checker.

  12. areff

    Kill the news division entirely. Subcontract coverage to AAP, where the editors pretty much won’t tolerate bias and reporters actually, you know, work.

    Split the rest into competing fiefdoms and make them fight each other for a reduced budget — the bits and spectrum that aren’t sold, that is.

  13. Scott

    It is not a question of reform. Why on earth, in this day and age, should the government remain in the business of owning and running television and radio networks? There is no market failure to correct. Sell the ABC and SBS and use the proceeds to pay down debt. The privatised entities will add to competition in the market place. It is time for the government to show some courage.

  14. A Lurker

    There is going to be an urgent government inquiry with recommendations, and frankly the ABC ought to take some very strong action straightaway.

    My recommendations:

    Demote Turnbull to the backbench.
    Give Senator Bernardi the Communications portfolio, get him to oversee the breakup of the ABC and SBS into chunks – dissolving some parts, privatising others, keeping only a skeleton unit to service regional areas whose activities are answerable to a separate, non-affiliated body.

    Finally there should be a royal commission of enquiry into the past actions of the ABC to determine if criminal or treasonous actions have taken place, and to determine recommendations for prosecution.

  15. alan moran

    Heads should roll is a poor war cry. Unfortunately even the head of John The Baptist won’t staunch the treasonable anti-Abbott ardour of the ABC. They will make a pained, sacrificial token or two as a means of appeasing the one force that could and should close them down entirely.

  16. Linden

    Yes and rightly so, in this day and age why do we need to have a tax payer funder institution such as this. For the good folks who want ABC style media, then set a similar media entity such as the USA’s PBS, public broadcast subscription, they can then do all they like on it,

  17. Rabz

    Q. The resulting net changes at the ALPBC?

    A. Zero.

  18. Eddystone

    I would have preferred that Abbott said “heads will roll”.

  19. H B Bear

    Bwahahahaaa – this is like being growled at by one of those fluffy white dogs you see in convertible BMWs in Double Bay or Toorak.

    Time and time again the Liberals have shown themselves to be utterly impotent to imposing even the slightest reform on the ALPBC. No wonder Mark Scott just gives them the metaphorical finger each time.

  20. Ivan Denisovich

    “Now, frankly, heads should roll over this. Heads should roll over this. I’ve had a good discussion with the Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, I know he has made a very strong representation to the ABC.

    “We’ve announced that we are not satisfied with an internal ABC inquiry because so often we’ve seen virtual whitewashes when that sort ever thing happens. There is going to be an urgent government inquiry with recommendations, and frankly the ABC ought to take some very strong action straightaway.”

    LOL. That sounds so much like something Jim Hacker would say. I can just visualise it, Hacker with his stern face on. Nothing of consequence will happen, of course. Maybe a staffer will be sacked but it won’t make one iota of difference to the culture at Their ABC.

  21. Art Vandelay

    Now, frankly, heads should roll over this. Heads should roll over this.

    Heads should roll. Starting with Abbott, Turnbull and the rest of the jelly-kneed, big-spending, socialist, nanny staters in the Liberal party.

  22. Ooh Honey Honey

    I think all this frothy hysteria is the actual own goal. Abbot is an idiot.
    The sell off of the ABC and SBS is completely justified even without the appearance of Zakky Mallah, simply based on the rationale having disappeared thanks to the invention of the internet.
    Instead, in typical Abbot style he has gift-wrapped ammunition to his enemies, who can now bang on incessantly about hypocrisy of a government that said it supported free speech.
    Mallah is an incoherent fuckwit. He didn’t “encourage” anything, he just expressed views.

  23. Bad Samaritan

    Hey jupes (1.42pm). Aren’t you one of the smartarses who used to refer to the Honourable Tony Abbott MP as One Term Tony? There used to be a lot of blowhards and bloviaters of your ilk on The Cat, but I won’t bother with any “where are they now” investigations. What is it now with this latest ALP talking point?

    Look mate, if you can’t understand what “enough rope” is all about, why don’t you look it up? Abbott always plays the long game, and is now at Match Point. Get ready for the trophy to be lifted. Duh!!!.

  24. I Am the Walras, Equilibrate and Price Take

    Art Vandelay
    #1719949, posted on June 25, 2015 at 2:13 pm
    Heads should roll. Starting with Abbott, Turnbull and the rest of the jelly-kneed, big-spending, socialist, nanny staters in the Liberal party.

    Seconded.

  25. 1234

    Tony Abbott’s very own jihad. The liberal party isn’t liberal, it is fascist seeking to persecute anyone who they disagree with. It doesn’t surprise me that Steve Kates supports Abbott because he has displayed his intolerance to liberal views in the past and his own fascist tendencies. Abbott now wants to control the ABC – we should all be worried about this.

  26. neon

    Ooh Honey Honey
    #1719953, posted on June 25, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Instead, in typical Abbot style he has gift-wrapped ammunition to his enemies, who can now bang on incessantly about hypocrisy of a government that said it supported free speech.
    Mallah is an incoherent fuckwit. He didn’t “encourage” anything, he just expressed views.

    It’s not about free speech. Mallah has the right to free speech its about the national broadcaster giving him a platform to air his views. It may just be the catalyst that does prompt some action. Small steps grasshopper.

  27. Bad Samaritan

    Oops. I’m sorry I didn’t read past jupes before posting. I have now discovered a whole heap of former “One Term Tony” smarties….all posting the same tired old drivel; ALP hacks hoping their ABC will be spared. Sorry guys; you can say ‘tony won’t get me…will he?” as often as you like but….the dream is over. Next up is THE REAL THING!

  28. Cannibal

    …keeping only a skeleton unit to service regional areas…

    Gee Lurker, what have the regions done to deserve having the remainder of the cancerous growth inflicted on them? In any case, a lot of the ‘regional content’ is actually prepared and packaged in the city. It won’t be missed, including Landline, which was once upon a time quite a positive, pro-development and even inspiring program before the greenfilth invaded it.

  29. A H

    I agree, Bad Samaritan, it looks like TA is going in for the kill.

  30. Driftforge

    Not that a petition is likely to achieve much, but the humour of hosting this on change.org is touching.

    h/t

    Kurisu.Shimei @Kurisu80362019
    Malcolm Turnbull, Government of Australia, [email protected], [email protected]: Pri… change.org/p/malcolm-turn… via @ChangeAus

    Privatise a large proportion of the ABC

    Mark Anthony Australia
    Other than ABC News, less than 10% of Australia’s population are consumers of ABCTV yet 100% of Australians have to pay for it;
    The ABC was created to provide a national news service and is now no longer needed given the width and depth of other news service providers;
    $4,000,000,000 over the forward estimates could provide for better hospitals and schools instead of a State-run “entertainer;
    Essential services for the ABC (i.e. ABC News {Channel 2}, ABC Kids {Channel 22} and regional ABC radio should remain appropriated by Government but all other services should be “right-sized;”
    The ABC has branched into delivering opinion (such as The Drum) and editorialises many of its segments which has brought the agency into disrepute. Mainintaing essential services only will help restore its integrity.

  31. 1234

    Exactly what sort of free speech does Tony Abbott believe in? Free speech for himself, his mates and big business. The rest, such as Triggs, have no business expressing their views. It is surprising that this s called libertarian blog is so intolerant of other voices and its respose it a fascist call to shut it down. Calling out Steve Kate’s again for the fascist he is.

  32. Ros

    An inquiry into Mallah and qanda has the ABC lovers declaring doom and gloom. Their noise if the government said we are closing down. Commenter the Drum.
    ‘Its nothing more than a government sponsored attempt to further attack the ABC and weaken democracy in Australia.”

  33. politichix

    To repeat – this is not a free speech issue.

  34. Cannibal

    “heads should roll”

    Yeah, bit of an unfortunate turn of phrase there Tone.
    Heads are rolling in other parts of the world, courtesy of these evil haters. Any enablers here in Australia deserve gaol, including jihadi-tickler Jones.

  35. Ooh Honey Honey

    Seriously though, whilst I think we all agree on the ends, to try and shut down Q&A because of Zakky Mallah, is the opposite of what we should be doing. Bolt’s just as bad.
    I think we should give Mallah even MORE exposure. He is doing our work for us.

  36. Tom

    By the way, the ABC costs nothing like the “eight cents a day” myth invented by the ABC in the 1980s: it’s actually $135 p.a. in compulsory taxes for each of the 7.6 million Australian households whether they use it or not($1.023 billion p.a.). Or a subsidy of about $500 per head we pay for every luvvee who actually uses this Green Left propaganda indulgence. That’s more than the air tax! Add another $35 per household for SBS ($267 million p.a.). Double those numbers for the subsidy per NET taxpayer.

    All this when there are thousands of online, electronic and print sources of news, information and commentary that cost us ZERO. The ABC is as gone an the Australian car manufacturing industry; all the remains is to set the date when this tax ripoff ends.

  37. Cannibal

    1234 – derp, derp, derp

  38. incoherent rambler

    to refer to the Honourable Tony Abbott MP as One Term Tony

    You may have missed that he is still known as OTT.
    The ABC will serve the cause and help ensure that will forever be known as OTT.

    OTT will be accused of political interference by the very neutral ABC. The ABC will help ensure OTT’s short stay, but most of the work OTT is doing himself.

  39. Ant

    Abbott is often accused here of being a big government, big spending leftie.

    In some ways, I wish he was a leftie- in the way any effective leftist politician is a ruthless opportunist skilled at conflating two issues into one to ram their agenda through.

    Take Obama and his behaviour after the South Carolina mass murder spree. Even with such an unspeakable tragedy, he did not waste one second to pay lip service on the condolence side and then lept straight into his ‘gun control’ mania – just the way he’s done with hammering law enforcement’s supposed racism in his quest to nationalise policing.

    So, go for it, Tony: “The ABC has shown that it is a clear and present danger to the security of this nation and its people, and I today announce that a full scale investigation will be conducted into each and every individual in that organisation who played a part in giving a national stage to a convicted, Australia hating terror sympathiser, starting wit Mark Scott and down…”

  40. Tom

    Numbers, if you want to troll the Cat, it would help if you stop sounding like a bawling four-year-old.

  41. Bad Samaritan

    Oooh Honey Honey (2.14pm) really doesn’t get it?

    If some guy was on a show; a guy, say, who’d been convicted of some type of sexual assault on chicks (and is clearly proud of it) gets told he’s a waste of space and should be outta the community…then replies “Ha. There are plenty of blokes who’ll be thinking right now that all chicks are asking for it.” ya don’t reckon he’d be hoping to connect with those who share his opinion? Ya don’t reckon he’d be thinking that lotsa bozos like himself would be nodding in agreement, Oooh Honey Honey?

    Since you are asserting that he wasn’t thinking that….then I presume you also reckon that all the other F-Wits Q+A attracts as audience and panelists don’t feel they are talking to like-minded individuals either, when they make their inane comments and observations. Is that right?

  42. Driftforge

    For 1234, on the notion that freedom of speech requires free reign for the intolerant

    […]freethinkers have out-argued the thought police for thirty years and have nevertheless continued to be harried from their jobs and from the public discourse without ever losing an argument. It accomplishes nothing to win minor battles while losing wars; he is attempting to overcome superior strategy with better tactics, which is a recipe for certain failure. What he believes separates the two camps is not only not important, it is totally irrelevant. Tactics are not strategy. Means are not objectives

    When you cannot win by out-arguing, you must win by out-silencing. Or you will be silenced.

  43. thefrollickingmole

    Im sure little numbers will bring up some screenshots of him expressing his horror of the government of the day launching a “shut up”enquiry into Australian newspapers a short time ago?

    You know the stuff you actually have to buy yourself, not get taxpayers to provide for you.

    (Little numbers is Steven Conroy, no-one else could be that unaware of their blatant idiocy)

  44. srr

    from the OT –

    They really can’t get anything right; not even the most basic button pushing, knob turning jobs at TheirABC.

    All morning the sound and image haven’t been synchronized on ABC News24, while the very same programme on ABC 2, have.

    Maybe TheirABC News button pushing, knob turner, is one of TheirABC’s many Jihadists, too busy ramping up TheirJihad, after the damage TheirZaky did to TheirPropaganda Wall …
    __________

    … Is it Code … NO SINC At TheirABC News … ? … seriously, how, and far more to the point, WHY has sound and picture been KEPT OUT of SINC [sic] on ABC News 24, all day?

    There is NO Technical ‘reason’/excuse for what they are doing.

  45. Cannibal

    ///to try and shut down Q&A because of Q&A’s knowing cultivation of Zakky Mallah///

    ftfy

  46. Up The Workers!

    “Heads should roll at the A.L.P.B.C.”?

    I hear that Zaky Mallah and his troupe of performing religious head-lopper mates are prepared to work “pro bono”.

  47. notafan

    Mallah’s is a convicted muslim criminal who while making threats to kill Commonwealth officers went out and bought a gun and ammunition and attempted to purchase another.
    His message is that he, like all muslims, is a victim of the Australian government and it would serve us right for being such meanie meanies if lots more young muslims joined islamic state.
    It was the Australian government’s fault even before they started cracking down on terrorists like benbrika, because muslims are oppressed for being subject to Australian law and not just able to whatever they want, whenever they want and get paid good money to do it.

  48. srr

    with the pic and sound being out of sync on QT at ABC News 24, a killer shot like Abbott’s, at Shorten being “as truthful as he was with Neil Mitchell 2 years ago”, becomes, barely a grazing blow.

  49. Alexis

    I do support Zacky Mallah’s right to free speech, and that’s what the ABC provided to him. The News Corp reaction has been hysterical and completely over the top.

  50. Rob MW

    “heads should roll”

    Not sure about the irony in that quick quote but the sentiment is spot on. I’m all for artistic head-hunting in the quid pro quo format. The only question is whether or not these heads will roll or bounce ? My guess is the latter.

  51. iamok

    Selling it is the only option. When Labor eventually crawl back into office sooner or later, they will simply refeed their bullshit beast if it exists in any form.

    Privatise emergency services broadcasts and remote services only with some gummit support. Ditch the rest.

  52. 1234

    Well, well, well. It emerges that The Australian, Daily Telegraph and Channel Nine provided an outlet for Mallah in the past. I look forward to Abbott’s condemnation of these media organisations.

  53. Myrddin Seren

    “Now, frankly, heads should roll over this. Heads should roll over this.

    That unfortunate turn of phrase is going to cost the long suffering taxpayer.

    How many ABC staffers are at-this-moment being conveyed to the first aid rooms suffering panic attacks, depression and other debilitating mental anguish over this threat issued ? /sarc

    Doctor Weegoff will be writing reports on huge numbers of ABC federal employees rendered incapable of working by the mental distress they have suffered.

    I expect the disability workers comp claims will equal the annual budget. Oh – and expect the Left to also tie this in to #domesticviolence ( inflammatory language ) and #workplacebullying.

    Brace for a hard landing.

  54. iamok

    Alexis few here support anything other than free speech. We do not however support setup after set up after set up by the ABC.

    This last one was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    A known terrorist, criminal, gang rape inciting scumbag ushered into a publicly funded forum. NIMBY buddy. And I am not alone.

  55. Rob MW

    “I do support Zacky Mallah’s right to free speech, and that’s what the ABC provided to him. The News Corp reaction has been hysterical and completely over the top.”

    So go tell em’ ? I’ll get Sinc to call ahead to make sure ole’ Rupert is about to take your call. If he tells you to fuck off don’t be concerned, he tells most arseholes that.

  56. Tom

    You fucking retard, Numbers. None of those media companies get a dime in compulsory taxes from the proletariat. They would reincarnate Ghenghis Khan if it would rate/sell papers. They can do whatever they like because TAXPAYERS AREN’T PAYING THE FUCKING BILL.

  57. Luke

    I predict an entire long weekend of total mouth frothing rage from the ABC and leftists media over how inappropriate it was for Mr Abbott to demand ‘heads to roll’, with numerous opinion pieces rationalising why what Mallah said is not nearly as bad as what Abbott said. I predict ABC staffers will throw some type of publicity protest stunt about the hostile work environment that Abbott has created for them.

    The usually lefty response of SHUT UP you (insert word here)phobe will be so over used this weekend that its not funny.

    Maybe after a few more terror attacks in our own yard, people will start to get the message of how serious the problem is.

  58. Anne

    The News Corp reaction has been hysterical and completely over the top.

    Yes Alexis and the Left are incensed, hopping mad, beside themselves, climbing clock towers, screeching from rooftops about it!

    The inappropriate appropriation of the Outrage Narrative is something up with which they will not put!!!!

  59. Norma

    I predict another Leak cartoon tomorrow with a few heads to accompany the solitary one of Snow cone he has already used twice.

  60. .

    1234
    #1719996, posted on June 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm
    Exactly what sort of free speech does Tony Abbott believe in?

    Not funding said speech with monies extorted from the taxpayer at gunpoint.

    You dolt. You’d approve of rape if the government did it.

  61. Alexis

    Yes Alexis and the Left are incensed

    It seems that free speech is a very conditional concept on this blog.

  62. strange

    “I predict an entire long weekend of total mouth frothing rage from the ABC”

    And I predict a week long of pants wetting at Catallaxy, along with its usual serving of idiots, blusterers, fake indignation, cant, lies and hypocrisy.

    “a few more terror attacks in our own yard” – WTF? When was the last “terror attack”. I believe it was 1915 out the back of Broken Hill.

  63. .

    “a few more terror attacks in our own yard” – WTF? When was the last “terror attack”. I believe it was 1915 out the back of Broken Hill.

    Probably more like Ananda Marga in 1978.

  64. Just interested

    The state has no role in broadcasting.

    No, they won’t do it; the ‘heads roll’ comment is only for show.

    They just don’t get it.

  65. Tom

    It seems that free speech is a very conditional concept on this blog.

    That’s right, you simpering whinger — we banned you!!!

    Oh, wait, we didn’t …

    Which means we’ll have to put up with you for another 20 minutes or so, when, like all leftist fucktards, you move onto you next ADHD hashtag cause.

  66. Tom

    #youjustcantgetproper trollsanymore

  67. Ubique

    “a few more terror attacks in our own yard” – WTF? When was the last “terror attack”. I believe it was 1915 out the back of Broken Hill.

    Are you having short-term memory problems?

    Try Martin Place 15-16 December 2014.

  68. Boambee John

    MS @ 3:21:

    If the whole staff are on compo, the ABC will cease to broadcast, and will then self- close (cease to broadcast).

    Then sell the assets, review the compo claims and dismiss them as not valid, and leave the luvvies unemployed.

  69. notafan

    So Numan Haider’s attack on the police at Endeavour Hills was just a ‘mistake’? Or if the wrong person dies, it doesn’t count.
    The left just can’t believe their lying eyes about Man Monis.
    The foiling of the Benbrika gang’s plans doesn’t count, the planned Holsworth’s barracks attack or the Greenvale student with the three pipe bombs all ready to go?.
    If Australia’s security forces stop the attack you can safely ignore it.
    Some luvvie in the media recently used the ‘no attack since 1915’, who was that?

  70. incoherent rambler

    Try Martin Place 15-16 December 2014.

    Alleged. Besides lone wolf and he didn’t manage to kill em’ all.

  71. Ivan Denisovich

    Tom
    #1720006, posted on June 25, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    By the way, the ABC costs nothing like the “eight cents a day” myth invented by the ABC in the 1980s: it’s actually $135 p.a. in compulsory taxes for each of the 7.6 million Australian households whether they use it or not($1.023 billion p.a.). Or a subsidy of about $500 per head we pay for every luvvee who actually uses this Green Left propaganda indulgence. That’s more than the air tax! Add another $35 per household for SBS ($267 million p.a.). Double those numbers for the subsidy per NET taxpayer.

    Former ABC Journo Jim Middleton:

    There is no statistically reliable way of comparing Sky News’s ­audience with ABC News 24, but suffice to say that in those households with Foxtel, Sky News ­significantly outrates its public competitor…

    My brief experience is that Sky is generally both faster and more authoritative than the cumbersome competition. In last week’s Liberal leadership showdown, for example, Sky News was once again first to reveal the result and the numbers, with a team of political players from across the spectrum on hand to provide immediate and definitive analysis of the outcome…

    There are next to no barriers between an event and its airing, few hurdles to be leaped, no editorial meetings to be negotiated….

    Sky News chief executive ­Angelos Frangopoulos is supported by just two senior executives, a chief financial officer and a ­business development manager. ABC News management is much larger and more labyrinthine…

    Incidentally, why does a cash-strapped ABC use two presenters for much of the news day when … Sky has found that single presenters make the business of getting the news to viewers more effective and less wasteful of resources?

    At Sky there are 200 staff, most of them journalists, compared with 1500 employees at ABC News at the end of last year, according to a spokeswoman quoted by The Australian.

    For that, Sky News viewers have access to four full-service channels (including News Live and Business) as well as 10 channels on Multiview (including local services for Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth and the recently launched OTT ­Australia channel for overseas viewers (another five services).

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/andrewbolt/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/bloated_biased_and_a_former_abc_star_reveals_slow_and_wasteful/

    The ABC is as gone an the Australian car manufacturing industry; all the remains is to set the date when this tax ripoff ends.

    Tim Blair:

    Writing about car industry subsidies, the ABC’s Annabel Crabb attempts an additional point:

    Media companies are in trouble, too. But can you imagine any government handing out $30,000 a year to hire new cadets at the Herald Sun?

    It is difficult to imagine. Then again, can you imagine a government handing out more than $1,000,000,000 a year to hire everybody at the ABC?

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/imagine/

  72. Tim Neilson

    Alexis, I’ve never been given the use of taxpayer funded broadcasting facilities to spread my views. Does that mean I’ve been denied free speech? No. It is perfectly consistent with supporting free speech to say that my taxes shouldn’t be spent helping beam a psychopathic imbecile’s rantings across the airwaves when he can download onto youtube himself.
    1234 – you’re incapable of understanding the difference between being allowed to do something and getting taxpayer funded support for doing something. You must smell pretty rancid when your taxpayer funded botty wiper is delayed in traffic.

  73. srr

    Simply;if the ABC was as, “fair, balanced and trusted” as their tax payer marketing lies, people would freely choose to pay for their ‘services’, and they wouldn’t only be able to compete in the commercial market, they would take the lion’s share.

    But they aren’t, they don’t, they won’t and can’t.

  74. Cannibal

    By the way, the ABC costs nothing like the “eight cents a day” myth invented by the ABC in the 1980s: it’s actually $135 p.a. in compulsory taxes for each of the 7.6 million Australian households whether they use it or not($1.023 billion p.a.). Or a subsidy of about $500 per head we pay for every luvvee who actually uses this Green Left propaganda indulgence. That’s more than the air tax! Add another $35 per household for SBS ($267 million p.a.). Double those numbers for the subsidy per NET taxpayer.

    I think it might be more than double, when you take into account all the public servants who are ‘paying’ tax with someone else’s tax dollars. Also, all the high-priced consultants and contractors who are now employed on a recurrent basis doing public servant jobs. In terms of tax dollars taken from the productive and not churners, the figure would be much higher.

  75. S'

    Outrage and free speech seems to be defined by one side. Selective memory when it comes to finkelstein, 18c, geert wilders visa, bolts case, reclaim australia rallies, milne and michael smiths sacking … Plenty more others could come up with.
    A big f*ck you to the hypocrite troll.

  76. Gilas

    Alexis, maaate,
    This isn’t about free speech at all, never has.
    Claims of free speech denial here are the predictable non-argument of the faeculent, pustulant luvvies, after they are unable to cogently argue against:

    1. Public funding of the enabling of this loon to appear on national TV… twice and unedited.

    2 Public funding of a persistently biased, poorly researched, abortus of a program which should have been flushed into the sewer years ago.

    3. Publicly funded enabling of the gotcha entrapment of elected officials (virtually all non-left) by various imbeciles, loons and misfits.

    4. Publicly funded audience stacking by swampies, which even a 5 year-old could figure out.

    5. All within a publicly-funded anachronistic monster which thinks it is too big to fail, while farting loudly in our general direction.

    And all under the watch of a gutless, unconvincing shadow of a proper government (2 or 3 ministers excepted)

    So, you see, nothing to do with free speech.

  77. Empire

    Some excellent examples of z-grade trolling upthread from the usual suspects and the emergence of an Abbott fanboy.

    Pray tell – who let the toddler escape from the Menzies House nursery?

  78. egg_

    Kill the news division entirely. Subcontract coverage to AAP, where the editors pretty much won’t tolerate bias and reporters actually, you know, work.

    Split the rest into competing fiefdoms and make them fight each other for a reduced budget — the bits and spectrum that aren’t sold, that is.

    +1

    Let them roll their own heads.

  79. And Another Thing

    Although I resent having to fund the ABC more every passing day, I can’t see how it can be sold. Who would buy an organisation infested by media luvvies and their left-wing spouses and friends that concentrates mainly on issues that people either disagree with or couldn’t care less about?
    Australia pays more tha a billion a year to hear about gayness, gay rights, gay marriage, bicycle lanes, herding people on to public transport because cars are bad, carbon dioxide will end the world, global warming is still happening when it really isn’t and so forth.
    The equipment may be worth something, but the ABC as it stands, with the staff it has, is basically worthless as a going concern.

  80. Ros

    As usual there are comments about free speech. Which inspires me to complain about the ABC. I am seriously bothered that a public broadcaster that invites communications from its community censors that community if its views are not in sympathy with its own. However scary it can get here we are all allowed an unfettered right to put ourselves on the page. We are of course not allowed to cross the rubicon in a slanderous grossly offensive boat. But that is not what the drum censors, as all of us who have attempted to comment there know. And when your comment simply disappears and you know it is considered and reasonable the only conclusion one can come to is that it didn’t fit their agenda.

    But it is extremely improper when one is trying to comment on articles that are insisting that giving a platform to a terrorist supporter, which he is, to ask a mp questions about the unfair treatment of terrorists is not to be criticised because to do so is to deny freedom of speech. To censor, to deny the owners of our ABC the right to have a say about the act and the person central to the argument is denying free speech in itself, is outrageous, and heads should roll.

  81. egg_

    “Heads should roll at the A.L.P.B.C.”?

    I hear that Zaky Mallah and his troupe of performing religious head-lopper mates are prepared to work “pro bono”.

    Tonight’s Q&A is brought to you by Scimitars Bazaar.

  82. S'

    Weak of Abbot to call an enquiry, go the gillard route and be fucking direct. Go to Mark Scotts office and have a conversation with him and the Q&A producers.
    And don’t use the word betray, it implies loyalty. Call it for what it is – a stitch up and the ABC attempting to influence policy (not part of their charter)

  83. struth

    I think in that one statement by Abbott you get so much.
    It’s in the word “should”.

  84. Lem

    Much ado about nothing. But don’t let that stop you from fulminating, if that’s your preferred method of reaction.

    Those with genuine concerns about the ABC following it’s charter would would be best not to overplay their hands.

    In some ways, you have to admit, the ABC have done people a favour by putting a terrorist up in front of the people, to allow them to make their own assessments of his arguments (as you do, when you assume adult observers can make decisions for themselves).

    Abbott using the “head will roll” metaphor, however, was politically poor.

  85. john constantine

    In my experience, shitbirds are rarely sprung the very first time they try it on.

    It seems their abc has placed a mentally fragile man, assessed as a high risk of carrying out his public murder/suicide fantasies, in a position to ambush tories several times from their Q and A studio audience on live television.

    How many more times have their abc primed nutters to attack tories, but it just hasn’t been picked up?.

    Their standard abc substitute for journalism is the ‘set-up’ where a tory is lured into their abc grasp under false pretences, then hit with a cheap shot, either delivered to their abc by a swampy or delivered under abc protection by a swampy.

    Without set-ups, propaganda spoonfed by swampfilth activists and chats amongst themselves-what would their abc have to broadcast?.

    How much of their abc product from the last decade has any value to re-broadcast on any of a million internet channels? nothing has any true lasting value.

  86. Oh come on

    It’s not a start. You might get a whispered mea culpa from Snowcone, and the show is likely to cop the gentlest of chidings on MediaWatch (followed by an excoriating hatchet-job on a News Ltd publication for ‘balance’), but that’ll be the extent of it. Nothing will change.

  87. john constantine

    How about requiring their AUSTRALIAN b.c. broadcast 100% australian content?.

    No more coasting along on foreign quality product, all lefty aussie dross all the way.

    Standard abc product is two maaaatesin a tinny agreeing with each other in an aloof and detatched fashion that tories are scum.

    two maaates in a dining room, agreeing over a meal that tories are scum

    two maaaates on a roadtrip, agreeing that tories are scum

    Without having a pack of swampies agreeing with each other, the content being delivered might have to make the impact, not the pack mentality itself being more important than the content.

  88. Ally

    Driving home years ago I was listening to JJJ / Hottest 100. One of the DJ’s said the most insane, evil thing I ever heard. It shook me to the core. I lodged a formal complaint. Their reply: Their tape was “inaudible”.

    They are SICK bastards.

    I tell you – if the government doesn’t do something about the INSANE ABC, I will have to assume that what they broadcast is really meant for us.

    No more excuses. Enough is enough was being said years ago.

  89. H B Bear

    Good to see chinless wonder Mark Scott treat Abbott’s comments with the authority they deserve and give him the bird again today.

  90. And Another Thing

    What did he say, Ally?

  91. egg_

    There is no statistically reliable way of comparing Sky News’s ­audience with ABC News 24, but suffice to say that in those households with Foxtel, Sky News ­significantly outrates its public competitor…

    ABC and Fairfax created AIMS – Australian International Media Services – expressly for Oz new gummint PayTV platform (Foxtel) but was rejected by Murdoch and Packer who created SKY News at the 12th hour.

  92. Ally

    AAT they were joking about incest. I can’t repeat it.

  93. And Another Thing

    Yeah, triple j should be first to go. Staffed by useless bastards just sitting around turning good food into waste. Why on earth were you tuned in to it?

  94. Louis

    @strange
    #1720133, posted on June 25, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    WTF do think the Bali bombing and the Martin Place siege were you f###ing nutless monkey?

  95. srr

    I’m now just watching Holmes and Alberici ganging up against Henderson on Lateline.

    No wonder Henderson did get to make key points, against the two interrupting, eye rolling, lying traitors.

    Then, the next bit of propaganda on TheirABC’s Lateline, was about private citizens ‘legally arresting’ private citizens.

    It Is NOT about Uber.

    It Is Designed to Terrify everyone into never risking The Offence of ‘offending’ Muslims, Gay/Alphabet people or anyone TheirFascistABC champions.

  96. srr

    oops, forgot I changed tabs. This belongs here –

    FMD!

    Victoria booming; Melbourne set to become the biggest city, so UltimoABC fills that news with words and images selling everywhere else.

    They just can’t help themselves, can they.

    Whatever The People Freely Choose, TheirFascistABC simply Has To Campaign Against!

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