Open Forum: June 27, 2015

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  1. john constantine

    Early abc news.

    Their abc reveals exclusive interviews with ‘granny of isis’.

    Reveals that as far as their abc is concerned, it progresses socialism to describe the terrorist killing drone strike as causing “a pregnant 14 year old australian girl to mourn her husband”.

    What next abc? claiming that the coppers that lock up peedos result in the abused boys having to mourn the loss of their relationships?.

    The triffids of their abc glasshouse are so venom laden that any excuse to lash out at tories and vent their poisonous backpressure will be taken.

    Even throwing ‘ally of their abc’ fraser-lite mandy vanstone under the bus -for socialism.

  2. Grigory M

    Even throwing ‘ally of their abc’ fraser-lite mandy vanstone under the bus -for socialism.

    Amanda will be a willing participant who will quite happily self-immolate on camera if needed to promote the cause of her own aggrandizement.

  3. Nic

    In my narrow little heteronormative world, I know only two homosexual, long term couples. The younger pair got married last year and are seeking ways to acquire a child/children to complete their wedded bliss. The (much) older ones would rather swallow ground glass than marry.

    Im no supporter of gay ‘marriage’ but support civil unions. I certainly don’t agree with the herd like mentality that exists on places such as Facebook.

    However, I am interested in sociology and demographics. Last night a poster made a comment about the fact that a few years ago the Mardi Gras would have mocked marriage, now they are fighting for it. I just wonder whether in time, the move to get ‘married’ may produce other unintended consequences, for example, a growing conservatism by gay people as they settle down, own property, have kids etc? I raise this as a Devils’ Advocate as for years, gays have said ‘ you say we aren’t normal, when with marriage, we are in essence becoming more like you”. Of course, such a view is simplistic, though I just wonder whether as I said, there may be unintended good consequences occurring.

  4. C.L.

    yep – abc and fauxfacts running interference on the TURC by digging up a 10 year old mafia story and pointing at Vanstone.

    Good. Sucked in, fatso.

  5. Ros

    Interview with granny of ISIS,

    Tara Nettleton married Sharrouf when she was 15.”

    “In Australia any person aged 18 years or older, who is not currently married, can get married. A person who is between 16 and 18 years of age can marry, provided the other party to the marriage is at least 18 years of age. Where two people are under the age of 18 they cannot marry one another.

    A person who is 16 or 17 years of age must obtain a court order from a judge or magistrate allowing the marriage, and written consent from both parents, before they can marry.”

    Court order or with granny of ISIS’s blessing. As I recall he had met Tara at school, school from which he was expelled for beating another student. Some of the left press reported it as punching another student.

    Well done granny.

  6. Nic

    Their abc reveals exclusive interviews with ‘granny of isis’.

    I wonder why she chose the ABC out of all media outlets? Oh wait.

    Ch7 just reported that “the reported survival of Sharrouf is a setback for his family who are trying to return to Australia” lol.

  7. Ros

    Here we go again,

    “The full interview with Karen Nettleton will air on ABC’s 7.30 tonight.”

    They simply can’t learn. Of all the stories, of all the “victims” they have to give this morally bankrupt associate of criminals and terrorists a platform. This time to abuse our police.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    Mallah is full of it. He called Pahini and Devine and said they should be gang banged on the desk.

    Not just any desk.
    The “Sunrise” desk.
    He must have had visions of Andrew O’Keefe looking on approvingly, arms folded, grinning smugly.

  9. Des Deskperson

    ‘…did the shortfilth ever shake the hand of al grassby?’

    John, the statue is still on display in the foyer of a government office – not, admittedly a very important one – in Civic.

    Apart from the political aspect, it’s a hideous piece of art, with a slightly larger than life Grassby – so still not very big – lunging forward with one arm in the air and a gaping mouth, like some sort of crazed carnival barker, the sort of thing that would scare kiddies.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Tara Nettleton married Sharrouf when she was 15.”

    “In Australia any person aged 18 years or older, who is not currently married, can get married. A person who is between 16 and 18 years of age can marry, provided the other party to the marriage is at least 18 years of age. Where two people are under the age of 18 they cannot marry one another.

    I saw an interview where she was a bit vague about this.
    She said the daughter stayed in Western Sydney “to complete schooling” when mum moved to Bondi or somewhere.
    Ok … alarm bells on that alone.
    Next thing daughter turns up in Bondi, fully burqa’ed up and announces she is married and pregnant.
    Mum “was shocked” but didn’t say anything “for fear of driving her daughter further away”.
    (I am struggling to imagine that “further away” place).
    How about calling her out and saying she would report the little muzzy fuckwit for rape of a minor?
    Sounds like granny has been as weak as piss all along.

  11. Pope Francis has jumped right off the deep end:

    Vatican Invites Socialist Green Activist Naomi Klein to Chair ‘Debate’ on Climate Change Mitigation

    FFS.

  12. Mater

    Australia needs to be VERY careful, as once this lot are back, who knows what they are capable of, having rescinded nothing.

    Yes, VERY careful. They could become one of the most divisive social elements that we have seen for a while. Despised by one side of the divide and living martyrs for the other (a rallying point of sorts).
    Whilst they may say (or even genuinely believe) whatever is required to get home, you can be quite sure that it will change when confronted with some of the less desirable elements of the Australian Muslim community. Note the use of Hicks, Greste, et al, by certain groups.
    If they are allowed to flee the Caliphate, you can be sure that the ISIS leadership sees benefit in doing so.
    There is a very good reason why Osama was buried at sea in an unknown location.

  13. In “Pennsylvania newspaper officially closes door to opinions against same-sex marriage as racist” Lea Z. Singh reveals:

    The latest from the Patriot-News in Pennsylvania:

    As a result of Friday’s ruling, PennLive/The Patriot-News will very strictly limit op-Eds and letters to the editor in opposition to same-sex marriage.
    These unions are now the law of the land. And we will not publish such letters and op-Eds any more than we would publish those that are racist, sexist or anti-Semitic.
    We will, however, for a limited time, accept letters and op-Eds on the high court’s decision and its legal merits.
    The march of progress is often slow, but it is always steady.
    On Friday, the United States took another step toward the ideal of equality envisioned by its founders. And we are all more free as a result.

    Note the highly ironic last sentence. They will no longer publish our columns, but we are all more free, apparently.

  14. areff

    Bolt has been (a) kidnapped by jihadists or (b) slept in. No updates since 10pm

  15. calli

    He must have had visions of Andrew O’Keefe looking on approvingly, arms folded, grinning smugly.

    No, no. O’Keefe was a founding big bug of White Ribbon Day. He would not countenance such a thing.

  16. Geriatric Mayfly

    In The Oz, concern from the AFP and Goivernment officials that radicalised young people won’t see jail as a deterrent. Don’t we desperately need a railway loop from Alice Springs to Wyndham, Derby and back again? Or better still a bridge to Tasmania. That’ll keep the recalcitrants busy and out of our hair.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bolt has been (a) kidnapped by jihadists or (b) slept in. No updates since 10pm

    Perhaps he’s having a job interview with Turnbull in case a certain $805,392 per annum position becomes vacant soon?

  18. calli

    Gosh, Bruce. The explosions would be heard on Mars.

  19. Roger

    On Friday, the United States took another step toward the ideal of equality envisioned by its founders. And we are all more free as a result.

    Some are more free than others, apparently.

  20. calli

    To be fair to O’Keefe (grinds teeth), he did something very loveable on Sunrise this morning.

    He read out some of the awful tweets people send him and gently mocked them. The tweets ranged from the deranged to the purely infantile. Good on him.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Don’t we desperately need a railway loop from Alice Springs to Wyndham, Derby and back again? Or better still a bridge to Tasmania.

    Actually I think the penguins on Heard Island need to be surveyed and counted. Several hundred times.

    The Greens are very into penguin counting so they should back this job creation deradicalization idea.

  22. goatjam

    Unlike the classic going Galt which is to not pay taxes – something we Biblically can’t do

    Sort of. The whole idea of the “Galt” movement was actually to stop producing goods and services (and ultimately wealth) completely as a response to a socialist government who was in the habit of appropriating said goods, services and wealth for the “social good”.

    They know that without wealth producers, the entire fabric of society would come apart.

    In fact John Galt himself worked (deliberately) as an unskilled labourer for the railway and he was meticulous in his intention to pay all taxes that were payable from that job.

    It is true that the inhabitants of Galts Gulch paid no taxes but they considered themselves as separatists rather than plain old tax dodgers. They took no value from the others and gave no value back.

    Talking of the “social good”, I happened on some program over on the Australian Bolsheviks Channel yesterday. It one of those programs that the ABC love best, a panel show where all the panel members agree furiously with each other that on how excellent socialism is.

    This one was hosted by Comrade Geraldine Doogue and they were discussing the vexing issue Microsoft and how much tax they pay. Apparently MS had issued a statement in response to something or other where they effectively said “we don’t mind paying taxes as long as there is a level playing field”.

    The panel members were aghast. Comrade Doogue expressed her dismay at the very idea that Microsoft would seek to maximise their profits at the expense of the “social good”. Her panel were all in full support and they all agreed that such behaviour is the epitome of evil.

    I wonder how much Comrade Doogue is paid by taxpayers to present this Marxist bullshit on their ABC?

  23. john constantine

    Granny Anarchy.

    Say their abc was offered an exclusive interview with the ‘Gemma Teller’ of Australia, chick did only sat in the office and did the books, never asking where the money came from.

    Would their abc ask ‘Granny Anarchy’ about her appearance before a anti-corruption Royal Commission ?, or ask her about what she knew about the association of her female under-age family member with outlaw bikie gang enforcers ?.

    Or would their abc refuse to mention the backstory before giving Granny Anarchy a platform to portray police as low life scum?

    Would they just be so eager to progress socialism that the billion dollars a year of taxfunding automatically swings behind anybody prepared to atttack tories?.

    Lucky their abc guiding light has assured us that this sort of thing would never happen, and ‘Sons of Anarchy’ is just an american telly show. [where the crims just killed each other off].

  24. srr

    … umm … could this please be made a feature post, for ease of Twitter, Facebook, Google+ and all other forms of internet sharing –

    OldOzzie
    #1723488, posted on June 29, 2015 at 9:42 am

    john constantine
    #1723474, posted on June 29, 2015 at 9:19 am

    After being warned that a media campaign was not the way to go, granny of isis kids gives exclusive interview to their abc.

    You mean the “Granny ” Karen Nettleton who according to SMH

    Explosive revelations of union kickbacks from businesses linked to crime figures, terrorists and standover men emerged from the royal commission into union corruption on Monday.

    Witnesses gave evidence that the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union allegedly received a weekly kickback of $2500 from labour-hire companies linked to Sydney crime figure George Alex.

    * Convicted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf helped his mother-in-law Karen Nettleton get a job as a bookeeper for Mr Alex, an associate of Mr Sharrouf.

    or from the Daily Telegraph and yet the ABC promotes this lady and the evil that is ISIS

    BARBARIC Islamic terrorist Khaled Sharrouf fixed up a job interview for his mother-in-law with notorious businessman George Alex.

    Karen Nettleton appeared before the union royal commission yesterday and revealed the relationship between the Australian terrorist and the man described as having connections with organised crime.
    Before he fled, Sharrouf worked with Mr Alex as a bodyguard and enforcer in his labour hire and scaffolding firms, the inquiry heard.

    Last year he arranged for his mother-in-law to get a job as bookkeeper with Mr Alex, even though she had no experience.

    “An interview was arranged for me by my daughter’s husband,” she told the commission yesterday.

    When she got the job with Mr Alex she said she was “thrown in the deep end” and had little information to offer the commission on its inquiries into weekly $2500 cash payments made to officials of the CFMEU.

    The commission heard from other witnesses that union officials were often seen among the bikies who were regularly gathered around the dining table in Mr Alex’s home.

    Ms Nettleton believed Sharrouf was an enforcer: “He never told me but I think he was collecting money.’’

  25. A personal taste of the future:

    Abe wrote to me: I didn’t seek him out. But clearly, he had only one motive here. Notice the mockery, gloating and insults. Notice the hate. Notice the refusal to engage in any kind of reasoned dialogue.

    Now realize that Abe List has 2, 174 followers. He is a professional who works in finance. Indeed, he is likely a wealthy and influential man: he describes himself as a partner in a private equity firm, and notes that he donates to the “cause of shaming bigots”.

    This is what is coming with Obergefell.

    Check out the tweets, they are utterly vile, and yet as a professional in finance he feels perfectly free to say this publicly. The modern day jackboot has a rainbow background with a unicorn motif.

  26. johanna

    Deadman, the newspaper editor you cited above has backtracked on his banning of anti gay marriage letters and opinion pieces.

    Someone may have reminded him that free speech is still legally protected in the US.

  27. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    In the Australian this morning; extract from a woman working with a charity to stop this in Somalia:

    In Balbala they practise “pharaonic” circumcision, the most severe form of female genital mutilation. This procedure, which had also been performed on me many years before in Somalia, involves removing the clitoris with no anaesthetic, often using a dirty old razor blade. Then the labia are cut away, and the wound is closed using thorns from a bush. Until the wound is healed, the girl has to remain lying down with her legs tied together. She is left with a tiny opening the size of a match head. Many girls die from the horrific procedure — if not from blood loss while they are being cut, then of an infection — and those who survive suffer discomfort or pain for the rest of their lives. It’s also one reason why so many African women die an agonising death in childbirth.

    When I looked at our team’s video of Safa’s neighbourhood I saw a huge collection of brightly painted corrugated-iron shacks filling the screen. Fortresses of poverty. Dirt tracks snaked through the place, between mountains of ­rubbish, stones, rubble and grey dust. The camera zoomed in on a shabby wooden door hung crookedly on makeshift hinges.

    With a creak, the wooden door opened and a little girl came out, waving to the camera with a cheerful smile. It was Safa, wearing an ankle-length dress patterned with pink and yellow flowers. Coloured beads bounced at the ends of her plaits. My eyes were drawn straight to her glittering necklace. On it was the protective hand of Fatima [a hand-shaped amulet, named after a daughter of the prophet Mohammed, that wards off the “evil eye”] that I’d given her when we were casting for the film.

    The next shot showed the inside of the hut where Safa and her family lived. Its two tiny rooms, with their corrugated-iron walls and cardboard roof, were home to seven adults and five children, including Safa’s brother Amir, an asthmatic whose medical care we also covered. Safa and her mother sat down on one of the two makeshift beds. “How do people react to the fact that Safa is not circumcised?” I heard our representative ask from off camera.

    “All the girls are circumcised here,” Safa’s mother answered in Somali, our shared mother tongue, as she swatted at flies. “My husband and I signed this contract where we guaranteed not to have Safa circumcised. But to be honest I am not convinced that it was the right decision. The circumcision ritual is part of our tradition. We will never find a husband for Safa if she is not circumcised. She will never belong to our society like the other girls. So I am sure that one day we will have her circumcised anyway.”

    We bring this culture into Australia and all we hear about proscribing is : education, education.

    With such fixed attitudes I think it is like Suttee. We need to use a very big stick and imprison perps.

    Triggs, of course, is not interested in this human right. She is too busy rewarding criminal.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    rewarding criminals.

  29. C.L.

    On Friday, the United States took another step toward the ideal of equality envisioned by its founders. And we are all more free as a result.

    Yes, America’s Founding Fathers were very concerned to ensure that sodomites had the same right to marry as normal people.

  30. Bolt has been (a) kidnapped by jihadists or (b) slept in. No updates since 10pm

    Perhaps he’s having a job interview with Turnbull in case a certain $805,392 per annum position becomes vacant soon?

    Bolt has made some vague references to “somthing to do with the ABC”
    No idea what Bolt would be like in Scott’s job, but he couldn’t possibly be any worse.

    It would do in the heads of the lettuce-munching class. Just the thought of it makes my day.

  31. pete m

    As some have warned, this new interpretation of rights created out of fairy dust will open the gates to everything being arguably a right. Don’t worry about concealed carry lefties – open carry was a right back when the constitution was written – how can any State now pass laws restricting it?

  32. Baldrick

    Convicted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf helped his mother-in-law Karen Nettleton get a job as a bookeeper for Mr Alex, an associate of Mr Sharrouf.

    So what do we get from TheirABC?

    Some tentative links between ex-conservative politican Mandy Vanwarmer and some low ranking Capo.

  33. goatjam

    No idea what Bolt would be like in Scott’s job, but he couldn’t possibly be any worse.

    Agreed, but the same was said about Tim Wilson when he joined the HRC. It didn’t take him long to go native, and Bolt does appear to have bit of a desire to be loved in him as well.

    But, as you say, Bolt couldn’t be worse. I would prefer Tim Blair personally. If anybody could put a broom through that festering socialist cesspit it would be Blair. He’d do it in the most entertaining ways possible too.

  34. On Friday, the United States took another step toward the ideal of equality envisioned by its founders. And we are all more free as a result.

    Unless you’re a practising Christian in the wedding industry.

  35. areff

    I am prepared to take over from Mr Scott. Where do I lodge an application?

  36. calli

    Gosh, Bruce Goatee. The explosions would be heard on Mars Pluto.

    I like it.

  37. calli

    Now you’re just being silly areff. 😀

  38. Baldrick

    Kathy Jackson appearing in court on the first day of her hearing with the HSU lawsuit and she declares bankruptcy.

  39. Shelley

    Bolt wrote something over the weekend about moving house.

  40. Bolt has been (a) kidnapped by jihadists or (b) slept in. No updates since 10pm

    Perhaps he is preparing for Q&A tonight, as stand in host or special guest.

    Tim Wilson will be on tonight apparently, hope he spends some time schooling the nimrods on free speech.

  41. areff

    not at all, Calli. Forty years as a journo, author and seasoned editorial exec, plus I can put my personal politics aside in the interests of balance.

    And my greatest recommendation: I undertake to take only-third of Mark Scott’s current salary and, if asked to speak at public events, I undertake to do more than recite Orwell’s Politics & The English Language

    Now tell me where to apply.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    No, no. O’Keefe was a founding big bug of White Ribbon Day. He would not countenance such a thing.

    I can’t keep up with all these ribbons.
    What is the white one for?
    $300,000 HRC cycling sponsorships for fuzzy-wuzzies who beat the shit out of their wives?
    (I seem to remember the head honcho of White Ribbon giving the Triggster a free-pass on the compo claim for the wife-beater)

  43. areff

    … and I undertake to master typing. that should be “no more”

  44. This is how you do Refugee policy in regard to economic country shoppers.

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/politics/AJ201506270038

    one of the best lines – Refugee status applications reached 5,000 in 2014, compared with 384 in 2005 and 3,260 in 2013.

    In 2014, only 11 people were granted the status.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    … and I undertake to master typing …

    Nah.
    Get a lady in to do it.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Bolt wrote something over the weekend about moving house.

    You heard it here first, folks.
    Mrs Bolt has turfed him out.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Kathy Jackson appearing in court on the first day of her hearing with the HSU lawsuit and she declares bankruptcy.

    Are you sure it’s not Craig in drag?

  48. calli

    And my greatest recommendation: I undertake to take only-third of Mark Scott’s current salary and, if asked to speak at public events, I undertake to do more than recite Orwell’s Politics & The English Language

    Now you’re talking. You can have a glowing character reference from me. The brown paper bag is in the bathroom. You know what to do, maaaaaate.

  49. Roger

    Talking of the “social good”, I happened on some program over on the Australian Bolsheviks Channel yesterday.

    The Moral Compass.

    I had it on while preparing dinner.

    Funny, not one of the guests thought that it might be a social good to allow workers to keep more of their hard earned in their own pockets so as to be better able to make their own choices about education, health, retirement, and so on and coordinately devolve the social functions of government to communities and families.

    No, tax and, by implication, cede more power and authority over our lives to a Leviathan government was their mantra, all in the name of an abstraction called “the social good”, which seemed to amount to free education, free health care and a guaranteed income for those unable or unwilling to work. They seemed oblivious to the problem of the affordability of the social democratic paradise without some boon like North Sea oil to underwrite it.

  50. Leigh Lowe

    I am finding this rainbow stuff on Spacebook quite useful.
    Simply scroll past all the rainbows until you find someone who can think for themselves and read their post.
    I am waiting for the uncomfortable moment when people tire of their rainbow logo for that reason. That is, when everyone does it, the major “look at meeee” rationale for being on Spacebook is lost.
    The reaction to the first ones to break ranks and revert to the orthodox childhood picture of themselves with their pony will be interesting

  51. The idea that the founders ‘envisioned’ same-sex ‘marriage’ goes to show how much contempt the writer has for the paper’s readers.

  52. lotocoti

    Now tell me where to apply.

    Trumped, or maybe not.
    Thirty years in commercial television.
    Plenty of Ops experience with their ABC.
    Born in wedlock, so not a journalist.

  53. incoherent rambler

    areff #1723522, posted on June 29, 2015 at 10:26 am
    I am prepared to take over from Mr Scott. Where do I lodge an application?

    Maate. I always agree with what you say/write and sometimes you agree with me (I can improve), so I would be your ideal news director, I will gratefully accept anything over $200000 pa (plus car, plus super, plus iphone, plus laptop, plus MCG box, plus union credit card and 1.2% of any ABC graft takings).

  54. areff

    rambler, I’ll reserve a corner office for you

  55. Tintarella di Luna

    I am finding this rainbow stuff on Spacebook quite useful.

    Indeed I suppose I should capture it so that when it all falls in a heap I don “Whodda thunk?” as my profile

  56. incoherent rambler

    *graft payments solicited by myself are not included in the package and are entirely my own work.
    (I can put the timbrel to good use).

  57. areff

    lotocoti: we’re getting quite a team together here. All jokes aside, Scott’s job wouldn’t be terribly difficult> You’d be spat on in the corridors, but the application of old-school principles, the sort that once guided newspaper backbenchers, would set the ABC straight in no time: Believe what you want; report what you see

  58. Leigh Lowe

    I fully support the independence of the ABC.
    I would like them to be emancipated from the stifling yoke of public funding.
    I want them to be funded by the 80% who so desperately want to watch or listen to the ABC.
    In that way they can be truly free and independent of this infernal meddling government.

  59. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Maybe it’s because I’m a member of the porn generation but I always took gangbang to mean a consensual group sex act.

    But that’s obviously not what Zaky meant.

    Yes, because he clearly meant it to be a punishment.
    As most women would find it to be, if the truth be told about that derogatory ‘lining-up’ imagery.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    The structural beams are creaking in the lead up to the ALP national conference:

    Shorten seeks info on boat turnbacks

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten wants more information on the impact of asylum seeker boat turnbacks.

    Here you go Bill, I can help you out: Hyundai Lifeboats Singapore. They even have a nice big picture of a large bright orange lifeboat for their banner!

  61. Arky

    If everyone here is getting a gig at the ABC, I want to direct wildlife documentaries.

  62. Nic

    I am waiting for the uncomfortable moment when people tire of their rainbow logo for that reason.

    Its going to be funny watching people eventually watch to see who removes their first and then do it. I almost feel like trolling, equating ‘such a lack of continued support as evidence of hate behaviour’. lol.

  63. calli

    *graft payments solicited by myself are not included in the package and are entirely my own work.
    (I can put the timbrel to good use).

    Oi! IR = job hog. You get the tumbrel, Stimpson gets the timbrel.

    And I get to knit….”Crash!”…”One”… “Crash!”…”Two”…

  64. Leigh Lowe

    As a result of Friday’s ruling, PennLive/The Patriot-News will very strictly limit op-Eds and letters to the editor in opposition to same-sex marriage.

    On Friday, the United States took another step toward the ideal of equality envisioned by its founders. And we are all more free as a result.

    The logic is solid.
    We are all more free as a result of killing debate.

  65. If everyone here is getting a gig at the ABC, I want to direct wildlife documentaries.

    I want Motor Sports.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    chick who only sat in the office and did the books, never asking where the money came from.

    Hey, that was the early Julia, wasn’t it? Never held a position, just did the typing. Blinked, and didn’t see the money.

  67. calli

    I’m going to take over Gardening Australia from that talking…something.

    You know it makes sense.

  68. Leigh Lowe

    If everyone here is getting a gig at the ABC, I want to direct wildlife documentaries.

    I want Motor Sports.

    I want netball.
    Boring as batshit, but the Sunday triple-time is tops.

  69. incoherent rambler

    rambler, I’ll reserve a corner office for you

    Good. I was thinking, a secretary that looks like a young Rebecca De Mornay might brighten the place up.

    First order of business –
    We should review the supply of IT services and equipment supply. I have shares in some excellent companies that can do the job. A little more expensive, but if you throw the business my way in the direction of these companies it would possibly boost your property portfolio (nudge, nudge).

  70. Leigh Lowe

    I’m going to take over Gardening Australia from that talking…something.

    You know it makes sense.

    He will be heading back to Greece to save their olive groves from ebil Monsanto pesticides.
    I find it hard to keep a straight face when the human hedge starts talking about pruning.

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Its going to be funny watching people eventually watch to see who removes their first and then do it. I almost feel like trolling, equating ‘such a lack of continued support as evidence of hate behaviour’. lol.

    Yep. It’s like Islam. Once they’ve got you, you can never leave.
    Shades of The Hotel California. 🙂

  72. areff

    incoherent: in addition to that, make sure you’re married, as landing your spouse a top-shelf, gold-plated, little-work gig is an ABC tradition and we are conservatives after all. Some traditions will need to be preserved.

  73. Gertrude

    I will take over from Snowcone so I can manipulate the Interruption Lotto figures and have a nice pair of arseless chaps.

  74. Stimpson J. Cat

    Bags mental wellness.

  75. lotocoti

    I want to direct wildlife documentaries.

    No, you want to Exec. Prod. them.
    You can still ‘do’ the locations, but you’ll have an Ass. Prod. or two to handle all the tedious work so you can make the most of any and all available premium travel and accommodation.
    And, of course, be top of the list when it comes to contra.

  76. incoherent rambler

    rambler, I’ll reserve a corner office for you

    The days of the news headline caning Tony Abbott or praising the greens will be over.
    From day one of my infinite tenure, if you want a headline to aid your cause, I will need to see the cash (in advance, unmarked notes of random denominations).

  77. calli

    Notice how, when areff made his desire for Scott’s job known, we all assumed he was easily corruptible? 😀

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    If everyone here is getting a gig at the ABC, I want to direct wildlife documentaries.

    I’ll do Domestic Goddess. Australian style, around the fire pit with a wine glass.
    Chucking in the spuds and stirring the cauldron simmering the pig. 🙂

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    I am finding this rainbow stuff on Spacebook quite useful.

    Not only you Leigh, and not only for reading comments.

    Photographer’s response to anti-same sex marriage client goes viral

    In short, it went like this:

    – lefty photographer pastes rainbow flag over his Facechook logo in solidarity with fad
    – customer decides she can’t now use the guy’s services at her wedding
    – asks for her deposit back
    – photographer says get lost and donates the deposit to a gay charity

    What the green progressive business owners haven’t worked out yet is that conservatives have money. Occupy Wall Street ferals have no money. I predict all those rainbow flags will disappear as rapidly as they appeared, at least amongst anyone trying to sell stuff.

  80. And my greatest recommendation: I undertake to take only-third of Mark Scott’s current salary

    Luxury. I told the Minister for Communications and the Treasurer a couple of years ago that I’d do Scott’s job for much less—for a mere $50,000, thus saving the Government three quarters of a million a year—and that I’d throw in hosting Q&A for free.

  81. Nic

    I want netball.
    Boring as batshit, but the Sunday triple-time is tops.

    Good perve though. Hmm, i’d want a show where I could could mock and deliberately be the antithesis of everything the ABC stood for.

  82. srr

    Bolt –

    Triggs’s next trick: helping another armed robber by recommending $100,000 payout

    It’s as if Gillian Triggs figures her one hope of salvaging her reputation is to appeal to the green Left with ever more extreme decisions, and to hang with the public that must pay:

    A New Zealand-born kidnapper and armed robber convicted of ramming his car into a drunk pedestrian to “scare” him deserves a $100,000 payout because he was detained ahead of his deportation from Australia, says Human Rights Commission president Gillian Triggs.

    After serving a seven-year jail term for the “callous and deliberate” road-rage attack, Phillip Shayne Tapara, 49, was deemed an “unacceptable risk to the community” and remained in detention for 17 months while he launched unsuccessful legal ­appeals against the Gillard government’s efforts to deport him.

    Professor Triggs, in a report ­tabled in parliament this month, argued the government’s failure to restrain Tapara in a “less ­restrictive” way — such as in the community with reporting conditions, travel restrictions or a curfew — was arbitrary and breached his rights under international law…

    The Coalition renounced confidence in Professor Triggs over alleged political bias for delaying an inquiry into children in immigration detention until after the 2013 election. Professor Triggs has also drawn fire for recommending $350,000 compensation to an ­Indonesian refugee, John Basikbasik, who has been detained for seven years after serving jail time for bashing his pregnant spouse to death with a child’s bicycle.

    In other cases, Professor Triggs recommended $140,000 for a British-Afghan dual-citizen who was detained for more than two years while he pursued a “futile” asylum claim, and $300,000 for an American con artist who was held for 22 months while he mounted legal arguments later ­rejected as “frivolous, vexatious, embarrassing and (lacking) any support”.

    And the other day she even told the ANZ bank to apologise for not hiring a convicted armed robber.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/triggss_next_trick_helping_another_armed_robber_by_recommending_100000_payo/

  83. goatjam

    A New Zealand-born kidnapper and armed robber convicted of ramming his car into a drunk pedestrian to “scare” him deserves a $100,000 payout because he was detained ahead of his deportation from Australia, says Human Rights Commission president Gillian Triggs.

    Is she high on ice?

  84. Arky

    No, you want to Exec. Prod. them.

    ..
    I don’t care.
    As long as my new doco, Hooveaggeddon: Giraffes v. Dolphins gets made.

  85. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I predict all those rainbow flags will disappear as rapidly as they appeared, at least amongst anyone trying to sell stuff.

    They’re still asking us to think about ‘the environment’ re the sheets and towels in hotels, specifically mentioning water saving and detergents (I’m OK with that); but they’ve mostly dropped using the term ‘save the planet’.

    I write comments in the guest feedbback if they do the latter.

    I’ve no ‘in principle’ objection though to gay hotels or gay anything really. Grown ups and all that.
    Except gay ‘marriage’. If it’s clear the rainbow is a celebration of that, they don’t get my money.

  86. incoherent rambler

    incoherent: in addition to that, make sure you’re married, as landing your spouse a top-shelf, gold-plated, little-work gig is an ABC tradition

    The spouse would like to keep it at arms length, is production consultant OK?
    My Aunt could handle a current affairs consultancy (although her handwriting has got a little shaky since she died).

  87. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten wants more information on the impact of asylum seeker boat turnbacks.

    + $5 billion to the bottom line
    – 2000 people drowned
    Women and children spared sexual molesation and rape from boaties released into the community because detention centres are full.

    That was easy.
    Now give me $50,000 for my accurate and honest report Gubbermunt.

  88. Cold-Hands

    The Associated PressVerified account
    [email protected]
    BREAKING: Greece officially announces bank closures for 6 days, limits on ATM transactions

    This is not going to end well… Pass the popcorn.

  89. A Lurker

    rambler, I’ll reserve a corner office for you

    I’ll put my hand up for the Arts. I’ll cover all the Conservative writers, artists, musicians and actors – so I’m happy to go part-time.

  90. Rabz

    Bags the Media Watch gig.

    Fifteen minutes of work a week. The pay is quite good too.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    What the green progressive business owners haven’t worked out yet is that conservatives have money. Occupy Wall Street ferals have no money. I predict all those rainbow flags will disappear as rapidly as they appeared, at least amongst anyone trying to sell stuff.

    I think it will be a little more subtle than that Bruce, which is kind of interesting.
    I was thinking about the American Airlines “rainbow screens” promotion on Saturday. They clearly think it will “enhance their brand” (or at least their Madison Avenue ad/PR agency thinks so).
    Some people will openly reject it, but I think that a huge number will say nothing and simply vote with their feet.
    Meanwhile back in Madison Avenue, the ponytails will be trying to figure out why there has been a drop-off in patronage on flights out of DFW, Atlanta, St Louis … everywhere except LA and NYC, and why 30 year frequent flyers haven’t booked anything in six months.
    Their answer will probably be to up the rainbow ad campaigns in those markets.

  92. Deneen in First Things:

    While many have pointed to the 1973 decision of Roe v. Wade as an obvious historical analogue for the Obergefell decision, to my mind, the insistence that all must conform to the new, official definition of marriage that no civilization has ever endorsed until yesterday seems to be more aptly compared to life under Communism. The likening of “denial” of same-sex marriage to racial bigotry has proven to be a wildly successful tactic—but it is premised on a lie, the lie that the conjugal view of marriage has as little basis in reason or nature as denial of basic rights to people based upon the color of their skin. The analogy’s success has relied upon the loud and insistent demand that we not notice, nor regard as relevant or germane, the fact that men and women are different, and most importantly, that their sexual union is oriented toward reproduction.

    The “monopoly of violence” possessed by the State is now a main weapon in perpetuating this lie, and will be used mercilessly and without cessation against those who persist on pointing out that it seeks to perpetuate a lie. But violence will serve as a last resort, merely backstopping the education system, the economic players, and even family members who will work to correct wayward thinkers (the divisions in families will make what is to come like a Cold Civil War). Like communism’s comprehensive efforts to root out dissent and “re-educate” people to regard all property as common and our care for all people of the world equal and without distinction, the very depth and extent of the lie requires that the lie be insistently repeated and dissent be comprehensively squelched.

    “Lies can only persist by violence,” wrote Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The bolder and falser the lie, the more insistent the calls to conformity, and the elimination of dissent. As during the years when the Gulag was the alternative (though the “Gulag” today is financial bankruptcy and professional suicide), the easy path was to go along, accept the order in spite of its absurdity, get ahead according to the rules established by those who ruled. But Solzhenitsyn said no—even to the point of arrest and exile. “Therein we find, neglected by us, the simplest, the most accessible key to our liberation: a personal nonparticipation in lies!” Even if all is covered by lies, even if all is under their rule, let us resist in the smallest way: Let their rule hold not through me!”

    And against those who dare to deny the lie, watch them explode in anger, mockery, denunciation, threats and finally the prospect of ruin and imposition of State-sponsored violence. And know that when they do, it is not a sign of their power, but their fear that the lie might be seen for what it is in the light of truth.

    H/t: Dreher

  93. Leigh Lowe

    Bags the Media Watch gig.

    Fifteen minutes of work a week. The pay is quite good too.

    Hmmm.
    Show me your supercilious smirk please.

  94. Stimpson J. Cat

    My show will be called “Stimpatico”, and will feature me interviewing mentally disturbed people from all sides of politics and society.
    Viewers will be invited to vote on guests sanity via Twitter, and offer suggestions for treatment.
    Help make my dream a reality.
    Together we could help so many people.

  95. lotocoti

    As long as my new doco, Hooveaggeddon: Giraffes v. Dolphins gets made.

    You’ll be able to say “That’s perfect, that’s exactly what I want, but can you just do it again, only better.”
    Without ever having to specify how it could be better.
    And, should one of the dolphins succumb to its injuries, you can send the show back for a complete re-edit to remove all vision of the now deceased dolphin.
    Because you can.

  96. calli

    So you’re vying with Deadman for Q&A, Stimpy.

    This could get nasty.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    The Associated PressVerified account
    [email protected]
    BREAKING: Greece officially announces bank closures for 6 days, limits on ATM transactions

    This is not going to end well… Pass the popcorn.

    The ASX is down shitloads today, possibly due 30th June clean-outs, but no doubt will be reported as due to “concerns over Greece”.
    What concerns?
    Fuck me, are people not going to buy groceries this week because of Greece?
    What is the exposure of Australian banks to Greek loans? Nuffink is the answer, or close to it.
    I’m buying.

  98. incoherent rambler

    So you’re vying with Deadman for Q&A, Stimpy.

    Two presenters. Like ABC news24.

  99. srr

    Now It’s Serious!

    afl

    Gold Coast Suns divided between drinkers and ‘God squad’

    … a worrying divide …

    … the weekend after the full extent of … cocaine use was revealed …

    “They’ve got a major issue at their club. There are two sets of players basically. (It’s divided) right down the middle and they don’t see eye to eye at all.

    “One group is out on the turps and the other group are in bloody bible class. There’s a God squad on one half of the changerooms, they go to bible readings and sit and talk about God. And the other half are at the pub. It’s true.”

    Suns skipper Gary Ablett
    has been open about his faith, notably sharing a photograph of a pre-match prayer session involving him and some of his teammates two years ago.

    Oh Stuff It!

    I can’t stress all the examples of hypocritical, outrageous outrage, written into this piece of Anti-Christ garbage.

    Drugs, Criminals, Muslim & Aboriginal (child rape) culture promoters (who also abuse little girls), Poofters; all lorded, championed and defended … BUT, CHRISTIANS, Praying, and Freely Choosing NOT to be Drunk and Drugged … How “Bloody” Dare They!?

  100. Geriatric Mayfly

    Whenever that ABC gardening hair-ball flashes across my screen, I immediately start to scratch. Lie down with Pavlov’s dogs and you get…

  101. Stimpson J. Cat

    Has Deadman got this lineup for his first show?

    Jacquie, Zaky, Sarah, and Clive?

    I think not.

  102. Greece officially announces bank closures for 6 days

    So having screwed their country by sitting around doing not very much their answer is a six day Bank Holiday.
    Genius.

  103. Arky

    I don’t want to give the ending away, Lotocoti, but the giraffes slaughter all the dolphins in the final scene. I’m thinking Nevada badlands, sweeping panoramas, tight, close up shots of giraffe and dolphin faces, showing every eyelash and whisker, and a finale reminiscent of The Wild Bunch”.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    Arky
    I want your remake of Blow Out starring dolphins, cunningly retitled Blowhole.

  105. Grigory M

    a finale reminiscent of The Wild Bunch

    What happened to driving a Dodge Challenger into the blades of two D9 bulldozers while Cleavon Little provides a running commentary?

  106. Arky

    Stimp.
    Only after I complete A view to a krill Starring SHY.

  107. Jacquie, Zaky, Sarah, and Clive?

    No, Stimpson J. Cat; I have at least one regular contributor to this very blog on every Q&A.

  108. john constantine

    Just wondering.

    For the purposes of the Royal Commission into Child Abuse, do Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs qualify?.

    If the Outlaw Motorcycle Club enforcer could ‘marry’ a pubescent girl, and have it accepted as part of O.M.C. culture –isn’t it more important to cast light on current day abuse instead of continuing redfilth gillards gotcha?.

    [what about indigineous corporations, like the one in victoria where the chairman and his mates stood trial for the gangbangs ?.]

  109. Slayer of Memes

    Not looking good for that nice Mr Scott and his sycophants…

    Second panellist pulls out of tonight’s Q&A on ABC TV

    Menzies Research Centre executive director Nick Cater has pulled out of tonight’s Q&A program, saying the ABC had failed to take responsibility for its grave error in giving airtime to convicted criminal Zacky Mallah.

    Mr Cater has sent a letter to the Q&A’s executive producer Peter McEvoy explaining his eleventh-hour decision to withdraw from tonight’s panel.

    His vote of no-confidence in the high-rating ABC panel show follows Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s Parliamentary Secretary, Alan Tudge’s withdrawal today from tonight’s panel as well.

    “Given that the ABC has failed to apologise unequivocally for giving an open microphone to a convicted criminal and terrorist sympathiser on last week’s Q&A, I will no longer be participating in tonight’s program,” Mr Cater said in his letter.

    “The Menzies Research Centre is a public policy think tank, not a political player. The reputation of our ongoing public policy research must be protected.”

    Mr Cater, who has been a Q&A panellist twice before, told The Australian the interview Insiders host Barrie Cassidy did with Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull yesterday was the last straw.

    “My personal view is we have to take the fight up to the ABC and our critics and we should take every opportunity to be on those kind of programs,” he said.

    “But the failure of the ABC to unequivocally apologise for the gross error in bringing on a criminal and terrorist sympathiser makes a calm and rational discussion of these matters impossible tonight.”

    Mr Cater said had the ABC shown an adequate degree of responsibility for Mallah’s appearance then it would have been a different situation and he would not have withdrawn from Q&A.

    “But they’ve been making excuses all week and I can’t risk the reputation of the Menzies Research Centre by getting involved in that kind of discussion.”

    Mr Cater said he had discussed his decision with the Menzies Board earlier this morning.

    With both Mr Cater and Mr Tudge removing themselves from the show tonight, there are four remaining on the panel: counter terrorism expert Dr Anna Aly, Labor’s Tanya Plibersek, physicist Lawrence Krauss and Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson.

  110. Arky

    Grigory.
    The bird on the Honda is the scene to include.

  111. Des Deskperson

    ‘It’s as if Gillian Triggs figures her one hope of salvaging her reputation is to appeal to the green Left with ever more extreme decisions, and to hang with the public that must pay’

    On the other hand, Triggs’ recommendations also appear to reflect the long term culture of the HRC. My own experience, for what it’s worth, with that organisation – off and on since 1993 – is that it instinctively takes the side of the lazy, the incompetent, the feckless and the downright crazed and criminal over the orderly, sensible and hard working. I seem to recall one case where the HRC upheld the ‘rights’ of an APS employee who was a workplace danger to herself and her colleagues when even the union agreed there was a problem.

    So it would be interesting to track the decisions of the HRC over time to see whether Triggs is an aberration or whether she simply reflects the ongoing culture of the HRC that’s only recently come under the spotlight because of her particular grandstanding.

  112. Arky

    Over to you, Tim Wilson.

  113. Rabz

    Perhaps some pressure could be put on Wilson to recuse himself as well.

  114. Cold-Hands

    the ongoing culture of the HRC

    Tim Wilson seems to have been completed captured by this.

  115. Stimpson J. Cat

    No, Stimpson J. Cat; I have at least one regular contributor to this very blog on every Q&A.

    I want you to have Q + A.
    I want my own show.
    Can you imagine us cohosting?
    You’d feel obliged to correct me every time I made a mistake or got something wrong.
    Half an hour in I would have got as far as “And on tonights show, our guests are…” 🙂

  116. Slayer of Memes

    Hmmmm….

    Financial planner’s vile Twitter rant

    A BRISBANE-BASED financial planner has launched an extraordinary anti-Semitic tirade against Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg, describing him as a “tinkering Jew”, a “central planning Jew” and a “cock sucker”.

    James Howarth, the principal of Retirement Wealth Advisers, yesterday launched the Twitter attack on Mr Frydenberg over his support for proposed changes that would cut upfront commissions for financial advisers.

    Under the proposed life insurance changes, the cost of life insurance policies will be cut and upfront commission rates reduced from 120 per cent of premiums to 60 per cent by 2018.

    Ongoing commissions will also be limited to 20 per cent of the premium from January next year.

    “Get your Josh Frydenberg ‘Central Planning Jew’ punching bag AB. I ordered 5000 in on the next Cargo flight out of ShenZhen,” Mr Howarth tweeted yesterday.

    “What a cock sucker. First course of action was to regulate insurance salaries,” he wrote, adding: “Slap stick comedy Jew Frydenberg stars in Deregulating Regulator Regulating.”

    Later he wrote: “‘The F— Frydenberg’ movement is picking up steam. Free Markets or Central Planning Jews.”

    As the tirade continued this morning, many warned Mr Howarth would be “lucky to have a career” after the comments, which he tweeted tagging multiple media outlets.

    Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson described the comments as “disgusting and outrageous”. Human Rights lawyer George Newhouse tweeted that the anti-Semitic comments were “a disgrace to all Australians”.

    “Frydenberg’s career is over,” Mr Howarth wrote.

    “Perhaps but his religion has nothing to do with it,” wrote Mr Newhouse in response.

    Mr Howarth replied with a series of tweets, which he later deleted, asking if Mr Frydenberg was “afraid for Australia to know he’s a Jew”.

    Peter Wertheim AM, executive director of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, told news.com.au Mr Howarth’s “gratuitous references to Minister Frydenberg’s race and religion are a damning indictment of himself, not the Minister”.

    “If Howarth had anything meaningful to say about the government’s actions or policies he would not need to stoop to playing the man instead of the ball,” he said.

    “His antisemitic rant is a disgrace, especially for someone in his position, and his reported refusal to withdraw or apologise just digs him into a deeper hole.”

    Dr. Dvir Abramovich, chairman of the B’nai B’rith Anti-Defamation Commission, said he was “outraged and disgusted” by the tirade. “This type of grotesque religious bigotry has no place in Australian politics and debate,” he said.

    “It is deeply troubling that Mr Howarth has injected race and religion into a legitimate public discussion, and has employed hateful descriptions that play into classic anti-Semitic charges of powerful Jews controlling and wanting to centralise financial markets.

    “I am appalled that in today’s age we still see this kind of prejudice, and know that our leaders will not stand for such expressions and will unequivocally condemn this repugnant attack on Mr Frydenberg. I also hope that Mr Howarth wakes up to the severity of his comments and apologises.”

    Mr Howarth did not return calls this morning. He told The Australian yesterday he stood by the comments and defended his “right to free speech”.

    “This nasty, personal and ­derogatory language is not becoming of a financial adviser, let alone anyone else, and is completely over the top,” Mr Frydenberg told The Australian yesterday.

    Much as I hate to say it (since I am in favour of repealing it) I think Josh should S18C this motherfucker…

    After all, under Mordy’s ruling, free speech is no defence….

  117. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m buying.

    Leigh, that only works if you are an investor, ie loooong in the market. Otherwise don’t do it. And most definitely don’t do it on margin, since if things get hairier some cowardly weenie in the bank could decide they don’t like margin loans and unilaterally change the ratios on you with no notice at all. Then you are screwed.

    My CBA shares yield 20% pa because I bought them at the bottom of the GFC when they did the rights issue at $26. The sheep will happily sell CBA until it gets to the same level, ignoring the yield, until they all run out of money and move to Nimbin. Us investors will do well in this new world, especially since the algos operate on a timeframe of milliseconds to days – they can’t cope with years, which gives us mere humans an opportunity.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    “But they’ve been making excuses all week and I can’t risk the reputation of the Menzies Research Centre by getting involved in that kind of discussion.”

    Ha, ha.
    That will have them in full indignant flame-out at Ultimo.

  119. Rabz

    James Howarth, aka Graeme Bird.

  120. You’d feel obliged to correct me every time I made a mistake or got something wrong.

    Sorry to correct you but, as is my current practice, I’d let a huge amount of errors go through to the ’keeper without comment.

  121. Tom

    Now that everyone, including those in the far suburbs disengaged from politics, knows that Q&A is a misuse of public money by the unrepentant lunatic left at the ABC to gotcha government ministers for as long as the AbbottSatan Regime is in power, no-one not from the lunatic left would be seen dead on it:

    Malcolm Turnbull has rejected an invitation from the ABC to appear on Q&A, following Alan Tudge’s decision to pull out of Monday’s program.

    Mr Tudge, parliamentary secretary to Prime Minister Tony Abbott, pulled out of appearing on the program as the government’s row with the ABC threatens to enter its second week.

    The Victorian MP left it until the eve of Monday’s broadcast to inform producers of the boycott, despite the government’s outrage with the broadcaster being made clear from the moment former terrorism suspect Zaky Mallah appeared on last week’s episode

    A short time later, News Corp reported that a second panelist, their columnist and the director of the Menzies Research Centre, Nick Cater, had also pulled out of appearing on Monday’s program.

    Speaking to reporters in Melbourne on Monday morning, Mr Turnbull said he respected Mr Tudge’s decision.

    “Q&A actually approached me and asked if I’d go on, and I declined also,” Mr Turnbull said.

    “This is not a question of a boycott.”

    Mr Turnbull said he had “no doubt that all of us” would be appearing on the ABC, including on Q&A, in the future.

  122. Spider

    As promised the first flood of FB posts featuring extreme CHRISTIAN nut jobs (of the all gays should be put to death) is emerging. Expect much more of this in an effort to potray all opponents as fruit cakes.

    But no one will quoting their local Inman.

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