Where’s the outrage?

I just watched Steve Ciobo on Bolt and what a disappointment. Where’s the “heads will roll” attitude? I want an ABC version of The Bolt Report, and whatever it takes to get it, should be high on the government’s agenda. Along with a savaging of that billion dollars of funding.

Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government?

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93 Responses to Where’s the outrage?

  1. AP

    An ABC- sympathiser. Stockholm syndrome?

  2. calli

    The outrage is at the bottom of the ocean partying with the global warming.

  3. Turtle of WA

    BoltA dropped a hint on 2GB this week that he might be doing something with the ABC next year. He said he couldn’t say any more.

  4. Infidel Tiger

    I don’t want an ABC version of anything except a test pattern.

  5. 1234

    It took an interview with Bolt for the penny to drop that Ciobo is a complte dud? Where have you been Steve? If you opened your other eye from time to time these realisations may come a little quicker.

  6. Baldrick

    They’ve gone flaccid on the issue.

    It won’t be long before the AbbottBeast will apologise to TheirABC.

  7. BrettW

    Here is a simple idea to save $200,000 a year. Have one of the regular staff such as Humphries, Crabb etc include the introduction of 4 Corners as part of their normal duties and cut Kerry O Brian who apparently gets paid $200,000 for the brief intro. This and the pay of Media Watch host are signs ABC has no concept of how to make savings.

  8. candy

    I don’t think the review is done yet? and in light of Tunisia which is most distressing it’s probably better to just go quieter on it for a while and perhaps Mark Scott will realise he’s on the wrong side.

  9. 2dogs

    I want an ABC version of The Bolt Report

    Good idea. Abbott can deal with this problem and still keep the promise not to cut the ABC by requiring the ABC to outsource all news and current affairs production.

    Have multiple vendors involved, so it promotes “media diversity”. Vendors to be selected by the senate proportionally.

  10. OldOzzie

    Let me quote from a reply from Tony Abbott to a complaint on the ABC

    Dated 18 Jun 2015

    “In the last Parliament, the Coalition took a principled stand against the previous government’s attempt to assert control over the media through its botched attempt at media reform. We will not go down that path, nor will we seek to privatise the ABC.

    As a former journalist, I understand the importance of debate and dialogue between media organisations and the people who consume media content. I know that no media organisation is without blemish, the ABC included, and I encourage you to raise your criticisms with ABC directly.

    Be assured that the Government is purposefully, methodically and effectively delivering our plan for a strong, prosperous economy and a safe, secure Australia.

    Yours sincerely

    Tony Abbott

    Yep Tony Abbott the Wimp

  11. Eddystone

    Who was that muppet who kept gazing at JanetA as though he wanted to eat her liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti?

  12. Crossie

    Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government?

    They don’t want to frighten the horses too early?

  13. Crossie

    perhaps Mark Scott will realise he’s on the wrong side.

    It’s not in his DNA. Besides, who cares whether he realises he’s wrong, the Board definitely doesn’t and that is the problem.

  14. Walter Plinge

    Apposite op-ed by Christopher Booker in the Tele —

    “The BBC is a fog of groupthink”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11703758/The-BBC-is-in-a-fog-of-groupthink-and-cant-see-how-biased-it-is.html

  15. Ivan Denisovich

    Steve, I’m surprised you expected anything different. The Appeasement Party has an unrivalled, decades-long history of surrendering. Sir Humphrey would have a field day with them. He’d only have to mention the word courageous, or even hint at it, and they’d run for the hills almost as fast as Tanya Plibersek screams misogyny.

  16. blogstrop

    Thanks Walter. The BBC are just as wayward from their charter and just as malfeasant in presenting various subjects (including climate change) as our ABC. I hope Cameron can put a dent in their armour at the very least.

  17. Rob MW

    “Where’s the “heads will roll” attitude?”

    It’s Sunday, forgiveness day with sealed envelopes hiding the preverbal iou in the atonement plate.

  18. AP

    I got the same form-letter from Abbott last year.

  19. AP

    Although mine also had some crap in there about free speech, which is irrelevant to the issue of state-owned media.

  20. Alex Davidson

    Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government?

    There’s a very strong pro-ABC faction in the Liberal Party. The rot set in right back when the party was formed. Even though it was strongly anti-socialist (one election poster I saw pictured Menzies with the headline “Down with Socialism”), it didn’t take long for the ‘broad church’ rhetoricians to succeed in persuading the party to admit all and sundry. Once inside the tent, their enemies then proceeded to white-ant the organisation – a process that has continued to this day, with remarkable success.

  21. Combine Dave

    “In the last Parliament, the Coalition took a principled stand against the previous government’s attempt to assert control over the media through its botched attempt at media reform. We will not go down that path, nor will we seek to privatise the ABC.

    So at this point, union corruption and competence aside is there any difference between lib and lab policies?

    They are running flaccid on everything from the ABC, NBN, NDIS to HRC.

  22. Up The Workers!

    It says something about how incompetently the Federal Communications Portfolio is currently being handled, that the A.L.P.B.C., for all its’ bigoted, one-sided, anti-charter behaviour, is more at risk of being dismantled by a terrorist bomb planted by one of its attention-seeking, chauffeur-driven, homicidal ‘religious’ nutters in the audience, than it is from long-overdue disciplinary action from our Government.

    For God’s sake, grow some gonads and shut it down!

  23. Gary in Erko

    Mark Scott, besides not saying which side of Australia the ABC is on, also said the ABC ought to broadcast ideas they don’t agree with. Do they? I thought the problem is that they’ve made their views too explicit.

  24. Big_Nambas

    The ABC is subject to a “Charter” who is supposed to enforce their compliance?
    It appears to me that there is no way to force compliance, if the board is stacked by a Government, that stacking survives for 5 years. Everyone wants an effective and unbiased ABC, except of course the ABC, who have managed to employ only lefties in all major rolls and have entrenched socialist group think.

  25. Big_Nambas

    And how about Turnbull putting crater face in his place this morning? Crater face said he could not understand the difference between inviting a known terrorist into a live studio audience and allowing that person into a shopping mall!!! I nearly fell of my chair, Turnbull used the greatest put down of all by implying if Crater face didn’t get it he was beyond reasoning with.

  26. Infidel Tiger

    What does Mark Scott do all day?

    Seriously. It’s not like has to worry about ad revenue, ratings, cost structures and the new media model. His $700k+ p.a must be easiest money going around.

    The last successful Australian made show on that channel that I can remember being a hit was Kath n’ Kim and before that Seachange. That’s more than a decade ago. They could stream reruns of The Bill 24/7 and get a bigger audience.

  27. I don’t want an ABC version of anything except a test pattern.

    Not even a test pattern.

    Unless it was sponsored by KFC…

  28. Ross B

    If AB takes some gig on the ABC it will only serve to feed the charade… What a truly dumb idea…! Like the 6-1 Q&A against Fred Nile – all his presence will do is help them claim impartiality and alignment with charter…

  29. stackja

    Again, ALP is the problem.

  30. AP

    IT, even Bananas in Pyjamas is made in Singapore! And these are the mascots for the “My ABC” campaign!

  31. Ros

    I missed Turnbull but it seems he gave Cassidy a serve. And Nikki Sava wasn’t being silenced either, though Cassidy determinedly talked over her making the point that Scott was wrong it wasn’t a free speech issue. In fact I felt that Cassidy was feeling a bit rattled. The West Australian guy even pointed out that Ciobo had played their Mallah card rather well and the winners were the Coalition.

    But then Cassidy finished with, is this just about Abbott throwing some red meat to the right wing constituency. Acknowledging while not meaning to, that the heat is coming from the populace, but demonstrating that while a little concerned, he was still treating the Australian public they pretend to serve with contempt.

    The following is from a Parliamentary Library Paper of 2011 about the ABC. It is not in support of the ABC just reporting. Depressing it is to note that their arrogance, solipsism, their island mentality as Ciobo described it, their absolute deafness, is as it was. Nothing has changed within their ranks. However the notion that they are too big, too expensive and too unresponsive does seem to be gaining strength, maybe.

    “The ABC has regularly been accused of presenting biased reporting. Many commentators have argued consistently that there is in fact a left wing bias which dominates ABC news and programming. From a similar perspective as other noted journalists, such as Gerard Henderson and Padraic (Paddy) McGuinness, Paul Gray maintains that the ABC is influenced by the ‘narrow middle-class values of the Australian secular Left’. [87] In Gray’s view therefore, while the national broadcaster has at times offended governments of all persuasions, it has always been ‘from the Left’.[88] The more savage critics of the ABC, according to Gray, see the ABC’s bias stemming from ‘hatred of the Australian masses and their conservative values’.[89] Gray is less savage, but equally convinced that the ABC must be persuaded:

    … values which do not fit within a secular small-l liberal world view are indeed intellectually possible, and are in fact believed in by many of the members of the public whom they are paid to serve.[90]

    Journalist Tom Switzer argues that ABC left wing bias is not deliberate, but he too considers it is entrenched and incestuous.[91]

    A left-wing conspiracy is not necessary at the tax-payer funded behemoth, because (most) ABC journalists quite spontaneously think alike. They just can’t imagine that someone could possible oppose the Kyoto protocol or an Aboriginal apology or a labour monopoly on the waterfront because, to them and their friends, these are self-evident truths. Nor can they imagine that someone could possible support a monarchy or Tasmanian timber workers or close Australian-US relations because, to them and their friends, these are unfashionable views to be ridiculed. It simply doesn’t occur to them that sane or civilised people could disagree with them.

    Switzer’s complaint was not with the presentation of left-wing views on the public broadcaster, but with the fact that conservative opinions are rarely given equal exposure.

    Political commentator Michael Warby is less generous in his assessment of inherent ABC bias. Warby argues the ABC adopts a ‘noble righteousness’ in relation to any criticism of its overall reporting style.[92] He continues:

    When Professor John Heningham, of Queensland University, surveyed journalists, he found they rated the 7.30 Report, the ABC News and Four Corners as the most pro-Labor media outlets… People from the ‘rightwing’ think tanks such as the IPA and the unavoidables, like Geoffrey Blainey, are allowed on periodically as … ‘the guest enemy’. They are definitely not part of the ABC’s normal service … Many of the defenders of the ABC are perfectly happy with this pattern. Progressivists see their views fully represented on the ABC. And, to the extent they notice the exclusion of classical liberal and conservative views, don’t think it is a problem.[93]””

  32. AP

    Time to start writing letters to the Board. The argument goes along the lines of this:

    If the ABC makes another cock up, as is inevitable given the egos of the people involved, and the group think which can not see past Balmain, Turnbull may be forced to say publically he has lost confidence in the Board. As a board member, you should ask members of parliament how many complaints they have received about your organisation in the past week.

    If you were a member of a board that a minister of the Crown had publically declared he had lost confidence in, what would that do to your personal reputation?

  33. AP

    But then Cassidy finished with, is this just about Abbott throwing some red meat to the right wing constituency. Acknowledging while not meaning to, that the heat is coming from the populace, but demonstrating that while a little concerned, he was still treating the Australian public they pretend to serve with contempt.

    This is exactly what they are doing.

  34. Ros

    Tony Windsor, suffering from relevance deprivation syndrome in a big way,
    “The following is a controversial view, but it is one this government has forced me to hold: I believe that any tragedy or terrorist activity in Australia would almost be welcomed because of the political benefits that would flow from it. The continual progression of asylum-seeker and terrorist law is all about where the blame can be laid when that tragedy occurs, rather than engaging with the domestic and international drivers of these issues.”

    That well known intellectual giant Rhys Muldoon
    “We have a Prime Minister that benefits from terrorist attacks. Who actively encourages fear in the populace. This is wickedness.”
    And
    “Make no mistake, Tony Abbott will take Australia to war, solely for the purpose of retaining power.”
    And

    ““He was seeking a rise out of Zaky Mallah because he knew what the outcome would be for the ABC and his … electoral prospects,” Labor’s Joel Fitzgibbon told Sky News today.”

    Having failed miserably with the meme that Mallah was a hero and Abbott a totalitarian it seems we are now to be hammered with all this terrorism, danger stuff, and abuse of sweeties like Mallah is a form of false flag. It is really about power and abuse of asylum seekers, of Muslim activists, even war against Muslims, it is just about being elected. If Fitzgibbon was giving sky the talking point for the ALP for the day, and Rhys is one of their mouths, will we hear the ABC on the same tack. Windsor is just an echo chamber, his article was a collecion of evidence free condemnations of the Coalition.

    As the left struggles to find an outrage the populace agrees with.

  35. Grigory M

    They’ve gone flaccid on the issue.

    It won’t be long before the AbbottBeast will apologise to TheirABC.

    Very early in the semantical dancing on the Insiders interview this morning, Turnbull circumscribed the purpose and outcome of his Department’s “Inquiry” into the QandA farce. The line taken will be much softer that what has heretofore been demanded by the Government’s rhetoric. How unsurprising.

  36. Spider

    RossB

    If AB takes some gig on the ABC it will only serve to feed the charade… What a truly dumb idea…! Like the 6-1 Q&A against Fred Nile – all his presence will do is help them claim impartiality and alignment with charter…

    The whole point of the Fred Nile Q&A charade was to paint anybody who disagrees with SSM as a homophobic right wight religious nut job. Expect the ABC and Fairfax to be scouring church newsletters for more like the Canberra couple who said they would divorce and they will just keep up the Tony Abbott is a Catholic line by inventing on-line surveys asking readers for their considered views on Tony Abbott’s refusal to allow SSM including smears about his relation ship with his sister. Bet on it.

    Mind you no one has asked Julia Gillard whether her views have changed on SSM. No that would be inconvenient.

    And no one has popped down to local mosque to ask their views on SSM either. Funny that.

  37. Ros

    I missed the Turnbull interview but I like this,

    Mr Turnbull said the ABC had undermined a legitimate debate about national security and proposed citizenship laws that would see dual nationals involved in terrorism automatically lose their citizenship.

    “In any discussion of national security laws, citizenship laws, counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency in Afghanistan, there is a big debate – is the measure counterproductive, will it create more problems than it solves? That’s a legitimate point,” he said.

    “Why would the producers choose the least reputable, most discredited, arguably one of the most dangerous individuals to put that view?

    “The answer, I suspect, is because in a sort of undergraduate, playing at tabloid journalism style, they wanted to create the biggest shock and awe and sensation instead of running the program like a responsible current affairs program on the national broadcaster that, frankly, should do better.””

    He dismisses Scott’s defence, there is no room there for his free speech malarkey, and his look Abbott is just like Kim Jong Un premise, it justs reinforces Turnbull’s point, undergraduate tabloid stuff. With Turnbull being this nasty to the ABC it may not just go away for Scott this time.

    And every headline reminds the Australian public they are paying a lot of money for an out of control mob of self servers.

  38. Art Vandelay

    Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government?

    The Liberal Party is an integral part of the big government establishment (which includes the bureaucracy, the ABC and the universities) in this country.

    They are part of the problem; not the solution.

  39. Tel

    The answer, I suspect, is because in a sort of undergraduate, playing at tabloid journalism style, they wanted to create the biggest shock and awe and sensation instead of running the program like a responsible current affairs program on the national broadcaster that, frankly, should do better.

    The quality of journalism in all sectors (private and public) is getting worse, but there’s a logical reason for that. The Internet has bypassed the journalist gatekeepers and they simply are not useful any more. Newspapers were the first to go, that’s been happening for about 10 years, but TV news is next. The spectrum is more usefully re-purposed for other two-way network communications, and I think in due time it will be.

  40. Ros

    Mallah is very pleased with life. He has got himself some new, and he obviously thinks special, and prominent friends. Conversation flows between them on twitter. The attention and concern for him, the acolades because he is such a brave outstanding man. It goads him to nastier and more unrealistic statements. He thanks his new friends. Greg Barnes, Mike Carlton, Martin Chulov. Characters like Rhys Muldoon lurking on the periphery, and Dr Andrew Rock of get a gun fame.

    But of course he is a nasty anti semitic misogynist. Not very bright and probably lonely, he complained at one stage of desertion by family. People don’t like him. And his new friends don’t either and they will drop him when he is no longer of value. The ABC will stop talking about him. They probably will never again aproach him as a Muslim activist, his bigotry, foul mouth, sexism, is too well known now.

    Mallah has shown what he does when he feels ill treated.

    We may have worse reasons for feeling outraged to come.

  41. Ros

    “Seriously, you’ve lost the plot there with all due respect. This is a high-profile audience, very high-profile target. This is a fellow that has threatened violence in the past, threatened to kill people, gone to jail for it.””

    Turnbull has stood by his position that Mallah is dangerous. The trial transcript does lend support to that. Mallah claims he has milkshakes with ASIO and police and they talk about the ME. It may be that he does still concern them and they do keep a close eye.

    It would explain Turnbull’s anger about the ABC’s actions, and that Cassidy still didn’t get it.

  42. MrZee

    Imagine a show that was like a Margaret & David Movie Show but was about politics – 2 intelligent, interesting well informed people but with opposing views; discussing the issues, conducting joint interviews etc. I imagine it would be a breath of fresh air & rate well for the ABC if the hosts were engaging. I don’t know if this format exists anywhere, TV is notoriously conservative in the sense of program ideas are stolen from other already successful ideas – the ABC might have to go out on a limb to make this one…..if only.

  43. Habib

    Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government? Because they’re almost universally statist, big government socialists. The Abbott goivernment is more left leaning than the first manifestation of Hawke/Keating, except for a very few overlooked backbenchers. This is the problem, we’re faced with a choice of only bad or worse. And why is that dickhead from Griffith still employed? Hilarious having a leftist gun control fruitcup urging armed insurrection. Pathetic fantasists; I think it’s part of why the left has a wide-on for Islamo Blammos, they actually carry out acts that beta male bedwetters daydream about.

  44. Habib

    Bolt & Ciobo both agree that the ABC plays a vital role. WTF is it? Buggered if I can think of one.

  45. Stimpson J. Cat

    Already in the works MrZee.
    JC has got his people working on it after I agreed to the name. JC and Stimpy – Politicks.
    We’ll be starting on one of the shopping channels.

  46. calli

    Bolt & Ciobo both agree that the ABC plays a vital role. WTF is it? Buggered if I can think of one.

    1.2 billion per annum is a lot to pay for a keyless asylum. At least we know where they are most of the time.

  47. incoherent rambler

    We’ll be starting on one of the shopping channels.

    Idea. ABC spectrum as only shopping channels. We the taxpayer could profit from this.

    ABC1 – cheap handgun and ammo packages, delivered to your door.
    ABC2 – sex aids for frightbats, cheap KY for public service wankers
    ABC3 – dedicated to selling mouthwash for Clementine (would be the most profitable)

  48. sabrina

    Does anyone know how Mallah makes his living? Is he employed, and if yes where? Please do not write if you do not know.

  49. Habib

    B1 & B2 from The Movie Show Are intelligent? Who’d a thunk it? They keep it well hidden behind an outward appearance of being ratchet-jawed bucketheads, one with a wispy beard to hide the stretchmarks, the other with ear-rings like sioup tureens, who continually talk up any local production no matter how turgid, preachy,, and amateurish, and patronisingly bag anything mug punters spend their own money to watch.

  50. incoherent rambler

    Oops. Forgot News24.

    Continuous replays of “Rambo” and “Bonan the Librarian” (or is that Conan?)

  51. john of dandenong

    I cannot be bothered commenting on the abc. All I say is the Coalition’s attitude to the abc has cost them my vote and I may have convinced a couple other family members to do likewise.

  52. P

    sabrina
    #1723007, posted on June 28, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    Does anyone know how Mallah makes his living? Is he employed, and if yes where? Please do not write if you do not know.

    He has stated this clearly on youtube. I will not put up any links placed on youtube by this individual.
    Cue: “How much welfare do I get paid” – Z.M. Q&A Answers Pt 1 @ approx. 4:52.

  53. JMH

    #1722982, posted on June 28, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    Ros, my concern is that these morons entering into any sort of dialogue with Mallah is simply grist to his mill.

    He will go ‘bang’ and it will be soon.

    Those supposed “intellectuals” now in Mallah’s fan club deserve what will be coming their way. The internet never forgets.

  54. Gary in Erko

    If it’s the question that Zaky Mallah asked that matters to Q&A, then someone else could have asked it instead without entering extraneous personal issues.

    Tried for terrorism but not convicted because terrorism as a crime had not been defined. BUT his actions were a major driving force in recognising the need to define terrorism as a crime. Is the person whose actions prompted the need for a definition really free of that crime? Yes, but only legally.

  55. P

    The reference I made a few comments above refers to his video named “Q&A Pt 1”. Not the ABC programme.

  56. Big_Nambas

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2015/06/youd-want-to-be-pretty-good-to-take-malcolm-turnbull-on-in-a-verbal-stoush-barrie-cassidys-not-.html

    There is lots of coverage of to his interview, Turnbull may be pleased enough to go further in attacking the ABC board.

  57. Big_Nambas

    sorry typo,” coverage of his”

  58. egg_

    Oops. Forgot News24.

    Continuous replays of “Rambo” and “Bonan the Librarian” (or is that Conan?)

    Naw, make it the Marlon Brando channel, when men were men and women were nervous.

  59. egg_

    There is lots of coverage of to his interview, Turnbull may be pleased enough to go further in attacking the ABC board.

    Turnbull likely thought that was one dangerous Q&A sideshow to be on – complete with sword swallowing.

  60. Combine Dave

    Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government?

    Pensioners vote LNP and watch ABC.

  61. Bolt? Bwahahahahahahaa! Along with Abbott another “half-hearted creature”.

    …like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea.

    C.S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory, and Other Addresses

  62. Ros

    The worry JMH is that Monis another narcissist who considered he had been wronged, so killed random innocents, might be someone else that Mallah thinks followed the true jihad.

    Scott
    How do we know which side we’re on, unless we’ve had a good look at all of them? @annabelcrabb provides some context ow.ly/OSWL3
    10:57am – 28 Jun 15

    Post purchase justification it is called I think. Do the nasty deed, then trot out excuse after excuse. That a nasty anti semitic violence loving dangerous misogynist needs a platform on national television in order that we may assess the value of him and his beliefs, well beggars belief.

    How is it that man got his job. He really is so nothing intellect wise.

  63. Lem

    Just privatise the ABC already.

  64. Spider

    MrZee at 2:47 pm
    Imagine a show that was like a Margaret & David Movie Show but was about politics – 2 intelligent, interesting well informed people but with opposing views

    Even the PBS News Hour can manage a reasoned considered debate between Sheilds and Gerson where each person can disagree with each other without faux outrage and histrionics.

  65. Lem

    Look just privatise the ABC. Sell. It. Off.

    There is no place on this modern world for rent seeker journalists/”artists” to be sucking off the public teat and unresponsive to the audience.

    Just. Get. rid. Of. It.

    It is anathema to the arts, in any of it’s forms.

    The printing press and the likes of Shakespeare arose out of market needs for information and artistic entertainment, and flourished.

    Publicly funded “news” and “entertainment” is a gross waste of public money, and cannot pretend to produce greater things than have existed prior, nor that exist now in the private sector.

    End the charade. Sell. It. Off.

    While we can still find someone to buy it.

  66. I Am the Walras, Equilibrate and Price Take

    Where’s the “heads will roll” attitude?

    It’s been put in the cupboard to gather dust, alongside ‘we’ll repeal 18C’, ‘we’ll cut taxes’, and ‘we’ll deliver a surplus’.

    He’s called ‘Tony Fraser-Chamberlain’ for good reason.

  67. Tel

    I’m not saying I 100% agree with this, but it’s a perspective that deserves thinking about. He kind of has a point. You can see where he is coming from and why.

    … until the vast majority of conservatives and libertarians get the balls and courage to basically just say, “no, you’re a parasite who wants other people’s money and you’re hiding like a coward behind children/your skin color/gender/etc to get it” we will all just be spinning our wheels responding to their red-herring arguments:

    “No no, I’m for the children! I just think we can spend the money better!”
    “No no! I’m not a racist! See I have this sort of 1/8th black friend!”
    “No no! I don’t hate women! I just think more of them should major in STEM!”

    In the meantime, those fortunate enough not to need “the system” will simply boil down leftists and make the only argument that matters:

    “You’re a bunch of cowards and parasites, and all you want is for me to be your slave to support you.”

    And no progress is going to be made until we all do the same.

    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/arguing-past-their-narrative.html

    To some extent I think the blame in the case of the Liberal Party standing for nothing is that they are deeply philosophically based on nothing. At least the Cappy Cap makes a clear point of the underpinning for his decisions, I don’t come to exactly the same conclusions, I think he’s gone a bit over the top, but our Liberal Party base their decisions on nothing other than spur of the moment popularity and winks and nods to their friends now and then. They pretend to be in favour of liberty but they aren’t, they pretend to support free speech but don’t know how to define it.

    Anyway, always good to have some grasp of basics, even when real world situations are more nuanced.

  68. Lem

    our Liberal Party base their decisions on nothing other than spur of the moment popularity and winks and nods to their friends now and then. They pretend to be in favour of liberty but they aren’t, they pretend to support free speech but don’t know how to define it.

    I’m not sur if it’s yours, but it’s certainly not mine.

    For all the reasons your quote brings up.

    Voting for the Libs, for me, is a mixture of vain wistfulness and pragmatism.

    It’s a choice between the lesser of two evils.

  69. Tel

    Lem, I’m saying, as Australians we have two major parties and that’s the choice you get. Those are our major parties, like it or not.

    The only other choice is move to another country, but most of them have similar ugly choices available, so might as well take ownership of the situation here and now.

  70. Aussiepundit

    Why is there still a pro-ABC faction in the government?

    They’re spooked by the polls that show public support for the ABC.

  71. Habib

    The polls are bollocks and they know it. It’s more to do with them spending too much time in Canberra. The statist mindset is highly cointagious,, especially among the feebleminded.

  72. GregJ

    And how did Insiders finish it off today?

    A couple of cartoonists dressed as jihadis.

    This was just a final Fuck You, to the people of Australia from the people of Their ABC.

  73. Lem

    Hey Tel, that’s what I said:

    Voting for the Libs, for me, is a mixture of vain wistfulness and pragmatism.

    It’s a choice between the lesser of two evils.

    Except in the senate of course.

    Sorry if I misunderstood you and I thought you were using our Liberal party as a personal, rather than Australia wide, possessive. But your points are valid: they pretend to favour free speech and liberty (in pre election mode) and soon find other values when it suits them. Some people call this lying. Luckily The Liars Party, who find both liberty and free speech anathema, are unlikely to have the chutzpah to use this in an election ad.

  74. hzhousewife

    I cannot be bothered commenting on the abc. All I say is the Coalition’s attitude to the abc has cost them my vote and I may have convinced a couple other family members to do likewise.

    This is all very well. Will you all vote informally, or for whom?

  75. vlad

    “At times, free speech principles mean giving platforms to those with whom we fundamentally disagree,” Mr Scott said in a speech in Melbourne on Thursday night.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/qa-mark-scott-fires-back-at-tony-abbott-saying-abc-is-not-a-state-broadcaster-20150625-ghxr9g.html

    I’ll believe it when The Bolt Report is a regular ABC broadcast; until then as far as I’m concerned the A in ABC stands for “ALP and the Greens”.

  76. GregJ

    Who was that muppet who kept gazing at JanetA as though he wanted to eat her liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti?

    Yeah, I know. I saw it and just thought “WTF”? God only knows what Albrechtson must have been thinking about it.

    It was weird.

  77. nilk

    JC has got his people working on it after I agreed to the name. JC and Stimpy – Politicks.
    We’ll be starting on one of the shopping channels.

    I’d pay to watch that. It’d be fantastic!

  78. Old woman of the north

    The ABC should be auctioned off in different sections to allow a real market economy decide which bits will survive and which not.

    If the board and the ABC staff ignore their charter then the government is obliged to cut all funding to any department which is guilty of the lack of balance that is required.

  79. Habib

    Watching Turnbuckle giving Scrotumhead a bit of a touch-up, pity he ignores the rest of their failures, foibles, fripperies and fuckwittery? Nothing will come of this, it’ll be business as usual at the Ultimo collective.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    ABC Newsradio got me out of bed very nicely this cold morning with anger quotient at simmering level.

    Their news bulletin contained a couple of the most appallingly shameless political adverts for their friends: one for the green “independent” in Indi and another for an ETU weenie bashing the Chinese and business.

    No attempt to balance with quotes or grabs from the Government at all.

    Boot them all out.

  81. Blogstrop

    That’s a new form of member, Bruce. An Indi-pendant.

  82. Blogstrop

    I’ll believe it when The Bolt Report is a regular ABC broadcast; until then as far as I’m concerned the A in ABC stands for “ALP and the Greens”.

    Well said, vlad above.

  83. Splatacrobat

    Alan Tudge has dropped out of tonight’s Q&A.

    “When you read the full details of Mallah, including his use of the media for attention-seeking, he sounds remarkably like Man Monis, the Lindt cafe terrorist,’’ Mr Tudge says. “When given the microphone on Q&A, he used it to his advantage, providing a chilling justification for terrorists which came perilously close to incitement.’’
    He also said Mallah’s appearance could not be justified because of his attitude to women. Mr Tudge said Mallah had tweeted earlier in the year that two well-known female journalists were “decent whores that … need to be gang banged on the Sunrise desk”. He followed up by suggesting that he would be first to participate.

    “If a man called for the public gang rape of two prominent women, what would be your ­response? Revulsion? Outrage?” Mr Tudge said. “How about giving the man a taxpayer-funded megaphone, live and unvetoed, with a million people listening?’’

    Last night, Mallah released an offensive YouTube clip in which he repeated denials that he had called for the two journalists to be “gang-raped”. “My tweet clearly stated that these two News Corp trashy whores should be gang banged on the Sunrise desk. Gang banged not gang raped,” he said.

    Mr Tudge said he discussed his decision with the Prime Minister’s office about his decision to withdrawn from tonight’s program “but ultimately it was my decision and I take responsibility for it’’. Last week Defence Minister Kevin Andrews also announced he would boycott Q&A.

  84. Tel

    The ABC should be auctioned off in different sections to allow a real market economy decide which bits will survive and which not.

    For the time being it’s kind of amusing watching them find more intricate ways to defend the indefensible, especially the massive hypocrisy that they will accept crude misogynist comments from Mallah, that would freak them right out if anyone else said it.

  85. Gab

    Repeal the ABC Act and make the ABC a subscription-only service then their ABC can be free to be as biased and loony as they want to be but at least the taxpayer won’t be forced to fund it.

  86. Bad Samaritan

    Oh dear. Still more ABC/ALP/Greens trolls denouncing Abbot +co for not rushing in like the proverbial bulls at the gate.

    Look; this is not going to get Abbott + co to change course. They are now doing the slow burn. Turnbull has swatted the ABC’s #1 Big Gun aside.; has told him he is an undergraduate who has lost the plot. The Libs are now one by one pulling out of the ABC’s programmec. The enquiry is coming along next.

    With 89% of Aussies supporting Abbott’s stance on the stripping of citizenship from Jihadis, who do the Trolls reckon has their sympathy? Ciobo, or the ABC? There is no need whatsoever for drama-queen antics, and the Libs are not providing such BS either. This is what infuriates the Trolls on this blog so much; the Libs refusing to perform like outraged petulant leftists?

    Shorten is on the ropes. The ALP is rolling over on piece after piece of legislation they once rejected. The Greens are doing Abbott’s bidding. Etc etc etc It’s over for the Trolls….and boy do they not like it, eh?

  87. Michel Lasouris

    I do wish everyone would stop writing that we, the taxpayers, pay the ABC for losers like Cassidy and Jones 1.2 Billion a year. The majority of our under-educated fellow citizens, have ,frankly, little comprehension of this scale. To many the understanding of a Million is anathema; Million. Billion Shmillion is all beyond their collective grasp.But suddenly the Sydneysiders have a grasp of relative values. A very ordinary home there will cost a Million. Still that sum, multiplied by one thousand, has little resonance., to bring home the obscene scale of the ABC budget, we should start promoting the cost as $ 2,750,000 a DAY; that is 2.75 million a DAY
    WE, the taxpayer pay this bloated behemoth the equivalent of three HOMES each and every DAY.All the other broadcasters, irrespective, receive NO taxpayer funds.The ABC has privileges way beyond the scope of their competitors; multiple radio opportunities in all State capitals and rural.; same with their ABCTV and SMS broadcasts. Endless opportunities to promote themselves at no cost to them, even book shops everywhere. Interestingly, only his week we were told that ABC has the ‘only 24 hr News Programme’. Problem here is that it isn’t the ABC in many cases. Listen to NewsRadio (sic) and 90% 0f the air time over the weekend is rebroadcasting programmes from the BBC, Deutsch Welle , Boston Calling et al.
    And note that these programmes are repeated TIME AND TIME AGAIN Please don’t misunderstand me; all these programmes are VASTLY superior to anything the ABC can serve up. But nonetheless it is lazy management and an insult to us, who pay these numbskulls.As to the travesty of Q and A, and Insiders, is easy to cure. Simply insiste that all these shows are recorded. This way, the ABC can NEVER claim to having been ‘ambushed’ by this terrorist in last week show. This avoids ant suggestion of editorial influence, but puts the responsibility squarely with ABC management

  88. 1234

    Alan who? Never heard of him. How has he distinguished himself?

  89. Elroy

    The funniest bit was Bolt saying ‘All this doom…it must sell papers…I don’t get it!’ Oh how we laughed, and threw our footwear at the telly.

    Cheers

    Elroy

  90. ProEng

    I am not a lawyer so not sure how the ABC can be brought to account for breaches of the ABC Act.
    Queensland has a Public Sector Ethics Act is overseen by QCAT. Is there an equivalent in the Federal Judiciary. I note that there is a Judiciary Act 1903. Surely, there must be a court or tribunal which can rule on breaches of Federal law and make orders. A law has no point if there is no penalties for breaches.

  91. ProEng

    Just downloaded the ABC Act. The government needs to make an amendment to either scrap section 78 (7) which concerns non application of section 22 of the Public Governance, performance and accountability Act 2013. Not withstanding that section 78 (7), it seems to me that the Ministers can sack others in the ABC including directors of breaching sections of the PGPA Act eg section 28(1) (b) causing detriment to the Commonwealth (eg the lies about Navy or Foreign policy with respect to Indonesia)

  92. clive

    If anyone thinks that the LNP are going to do anything about their ABC,I can inform you that we will be disappionted.I have Emailed Warren Truss,who is my local MP and he says that the board of the ABC is going to conduct the “Investigation”into itself.We all know how that is going to end,don’t we.

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