If you’re so rich why aren’t you smart?

Malcolm is almost the perfect reflection of media opinion. He is like blotting paper, soaking up every conventional opinion without any actual apparent ability to think for himself. He is a non-entity in the Barack Obama mould, filled with vapid thoughts and a high opinion of his own abilities and intellect that is never at any stage reflected in anything he says or any action he takes.

He apparently won on the promise that he would not change any of the more contentious compromises Abbott had been able to meld, which is to say, he won promising not to do the very things that he wants to do, and which the media will look to him to do. The Great Communicator he is not. He is a shallow and pompous blowhard. If there is more to him, we will find out. If there isn’t, the 54 fools who backed him into the Lodge will perhaps regret what they have done, but in the meantime will have caused great harm to this country, while not even saving a single Parliamentary seat.

The one opinion I was interested in was Tim Blair’s.

UPDATE III. The winner and new Prime Minister: Malcolm Turnbull, by 54 to 44 votes. Julie Bishop elected deputy. Disaster.

OK Malcolm. It’s now up to you to show us we were wrong.

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115 Responses to If you’re so rich why aren’t you smart?

  1. OK Malcolm. It’s now up to you to show us we were wrong.

    That’s me.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bolt’s report of the Turnbull/Bishop press conference is very revealing.

    A little warning sign from the press conference last night of Malcolm Turnbull and Julie Bishop.

    Bishop whispered to Turnbull to announce he’d take only one more question from the media, to keep his message sharp and stay out of trouble. Turnbull did what was asked, yet took a couple more questions besides and would have kept going had Bishop not whispered a second time to wrap it up. By then Turnbull had had to field a question on global warming, a tricky one for him, which Bishop felt needed her intervention to deal with.

    He won’t always have Ms Bishop there to keep himself out of media trouble.

    It appears he likes to be liked. I hope he learns soon that the ABC, Fairfax and most journalists in this country hate him. They hate him because he’s a Lib, rich and in the way of their agenda. When you are operating in enemy territory you must always be on guard as was Morrison when he pulled Dutton and Abbott up by pointing to the microphone overhead. Turnbull could learn a thing or two from Morro and Bishop. He’d better.

  3. Alfonso

    Mal can bring the two Labor factions together in a merged one party State, inspired by the US who have been running that way for decades. Then again, it might be better to go with a two party gig for pretend product differentiation purposes….like Surf and Omo.

  4. Nicholas (Rule Yourselves!) Gray

    Hold on! Tony was NOT doing well in the Polls! That hints at disaster in any General Election. The liberals needed to do something. If not replacing Tony, then what? If not Turnbull, then who?

  5. Neenee

    The Nationals should demand a joint party ballot prerequisite to continuation of a coalition. Let’s see – Turnbull 54; Abbott 44+21=65?

  6. Andrew

    Silly fellows don’t normally become high ranking investment bankers, and he was probably the best shadow treasurer in history. He flogged the Goose like a red headed stepchild. Over and over. On everything. (The dirty secret the meeja never mentioned.)

    It’s not that he’s dumb – he’s just a socially “progressive” inner city elite. His positions are offensive to most LNP voters. I can’t understand why a smart person wouldn’t see through the CAGW hoax but maybe he’s simply never looked or been shown the data by the regressives he surrounds himself with.

  7. I Am the Walras, Equilibrate and Price Take

    Where can I get my ‘Screw Malcolm Turnbull’ t-shirt?

  8. hzhousewife

    Well someone needs to edumicate Mr Turncoat about Glowball Warmening ASAP.

  9. Alfonso

    ” I can’t understand why a smart person wouldn’t see through the CAGW hoax .”
    You don’t have any idea what the size of a world CO2 swap market will one day look like do you. For Goldman Sachs it will smell like victory.

  10. Bruce has a point. The (massive) ABC have hinted for years that Turnbull would be acceptable to luvviedom. He’s not.

    Malcolm is like the skinny guy floating after a shipwreck and hoping the sharks will only eat the fat guys. Malcolm isn’t a survivor – he’s dessert.

  11. john constantine

    Waiting on the jobs to be handed out, and the interaction with the crossbenchers.

    What bets on which legislation will be fast tracked?.

    The way that the actual hatred was personalised on Abbott by the meme generators worked, but can it be simply swapped around to skewer the leatherfilth?.

    The community organisers are so busy gloating this morning that they have already wasted a media cycle they could have been drumming up the new hate with.

  12. JMH

    We are not the Labor Party.” Abbott yesterday: Oh yes you are. Now.

    Bottom 3 on my ballot papers: Greens last; ALP 2nd last and now the Libs will hold 3rd last position.

    I really think disgusted Libs across the board should seriously think about the Nationals. Perhaps the Nats could do with a good escalation – I mean, elevation!

  13. goatjam

    The whole point of Glowbull Warming and emission trading schemes is to allow companies like Goldman Sachs to nickel and dime their way to enormous fortunes for the rest of eternity.

    It has nought to do with saving the polar bears.

  14. john constantine

    Like the swampies use the settler welfare herds against their opponents, the leatherfilth has used their abc and the pile-on media to bring down his opponent.

    now what does he do with the weaponised swampfilth? they are now positioned to be participants in the process, not journalists, can’t scrape the sperm off the egg once it has hooked in.

  15. Pickles

    Look on the bright side. All small businesses that are fortunate enough to be granted a “social licence to operate” can now join the “not for profit sector”. Dinnah partays will be such fun. Pass the smug boat and the ladle please.

  16. closeapproximation

    I am on board with Steve’s pessimism.

    I hope Turnbull proves us wrong.

    Expect CO2 back on the agenda in the next 12 months.

  17. FelixKruell

    I found it telling that my facebook feed last night (a truly scientific test) showed:

    1. The usual hatred re Abbott and the Liberals from my left wing acquaintances, with lots of gloating; and
    2. Elation (albeit measured) from my right wing acquaintances.

    What negative comments there were, were about the process, and the descent into instability by our political process.

  18. gabrianga

    I can’t understand why a smart person wouldn’t see through the CAGW hoax but maybe he’s simply never looked or been shown the data by the regressives he surrounds himself with.

    He was Chairman of Goldman Sachs one of the “big boys” in flogging “Global Warming” and “renewable energy” shit.

    No doubt Lord and Lady Wentworth sold up their Goldman interests ?

  19. Econocrat

    About a year of Goat Cheese Circle climate change blah, blah policies that appeal to Wentworth types and and Malcolm will be toast.

  20. classical_hero

    I think Tony Abbott should have waiting until after the election in 2010 before removing Malcontent Turncoat. That way he could have been given a massive boot by the Australian public and this wouldn’t have happened. But one thing I do want is Labor to be in power when Australia eventually slips into recession that is caused by their parties intransigence.

  21. Leo G

    At least your expectations of the new PM are not setting you up for a disappointment.

  22. Struth

    Really it’s a bit like being concerned with wether you’re being slapped in the face with a live fish or a dead one.
    These are all, on both sides , career politicians.
    The Australian nation loses due to our compulsory and preferential voting system that allows this shit to go on.
    Really a prime minister is just a spokesman for a party.
    The party changes their spokesman.
    Malcom now has to work with the party not too far from an election.
    I don’t think he will be able to stray too far to the left.
    Hey, how’s that for positive thinking?
    I won’t cry for Abbott.
    No way.
    Watch out turncoat.
    If you think Abbott didn’t have low polling because he pissed off the right wing and not the left, you will be making the biggest mistake of your life.
    And that’s saying something.

  23. Turnbull is the marxist collective’s favourite enemy. They still intend to win, but he’s the pantomime villain they want to defeat.

    No awkward questions likely to be asked by Turnbull. Just the same old puppet show as he brings in a carbon trading scheme suitably renamed, does the Vichy Dave Cameron style open borders kabuki and generally denigrates Australia and Australians by stealth with a myriad of socialist little steps towards the abolition of our way of life.

  24. Ant

    I recall Mal taking over from Brendan Nelson and was excited with the development. Silly me.

    Then came Utegate. I gave him the benefit of the doubt believing that he actually had hard indisputable evidence of Rudd’s wrongdoing, given that he was calling for Rudd to resign, and not simply a paper copy of an email which could be so easily forged.

    But nope. All he had was that pissy bit of paper and a look of astonishment when it turned out that it was a dud.

    Then there was the ETS, and his Global Warming evangelism and his close associations with Goldman Sachs with their mountains of money “invested” in green energy schemes all over the globe.

    Then he lied about Margaret Thatcher’s views on the Great Global Warming Racket and pretended that to disagree meant that you either wanted to see the planet burn or you were stupid.

    Then his backing of that sicko “artist” who liked to photograph little girls in the nude.

    The final straw was seeing him wet kiss the ABC at every opportunity – particularly if it would compound embarrassment for Abbott.

    I’m prepared to extend him, yet again, the benefit of the doubt after listening to his speech last night – only because the alternative – Bill Shorten – would see this country run by union mobsters, just like Victoria is today, and I worry too much about the kind of country this will become for my kids.

    But for me there’s several key red lines:

    1. Global Warming. The first hint that he moves this government into even more stupid “carbon” mitigation measures leading to higher energy prices, I’m out.
    2. ABC. The first hint that he panders to the a-holes in this organisation at the expense of this country’s conservatives, I’m out.
    3. Republic. The first hint that he spruiks again for this pointless gesture, I’m out.
    4. SSM. The first hint that he rams this through the parliament without taking it to the people, I’m out.
    5. Immigration. The first hint that he loosens the border laws which have been so spectacularly successful in reversing Labor’s lethal stupidity, I’m out.

    There’s a few more, but you get the idea.

  25. Leo G

    Really a prime minister is just a spokesman for a party.
    The party changes their spokesman.

    The prime minister is the de facto head of state.
    The party changes the spokesman, the spokesman changes the party.

  26. goatjam

    But one thing I do want is Labor to be in power when Australia eventually slips into recession that is caused by their parties intransigence.

    It is easy to write the Labor Party off as a bunch of feckless idiots but they are not. I am sure that their behaviour in blocking everything that comes up in the Senate is a deliberate attempt to trigger a recession so that they can score political points and portray themselves as the more competent economic managers.

  27. Toiling Mass

    I think Tony Abbott should have waiting until after the election in 2010 before removing Malcontent Turncoat.

    Abbott rather than Turnbull, but someone else rather than Abbott.

  28. Struth

    I used fish as I feel others own duck.

  29. Leo G

    It is easy to write the Labor Party off as a bunch of feckless idiots but they are not. I am sure that their behaviour in blocking everything that comes up in the Senate is a deliberate attempt to trigger a recession so that they can score political points and portray themselves as the more competent economic managers.

    Labor would be a bunch of feckful idiots, in that case.

  30. Louis

    Ant – You’re out. What do you think the chances are that he won’t do any of those things within the next 6 months. I’d say 0.

  31. Struth

    Leo G.
    The point is the prime minister cannot just do what he wants.

  32. rickw

    You don’t have any idea what the size of a world CO2 swap market will one day look like do you. For Goldman Sachs it will smell like victory.

    I was talking to someone involved in early work on carbon trading compliance for a company. I posed the question whether this would die an immediate death if AGW was proved to not exist. “No, there’s to much money involved.”

  33. Struth

    Abbott had to drop numerous brain farts.
    We did not just see the Australian king deposed.

  34. JMH

    I’m out now because I believe the turncoat will go all out to support windmills – and that has a direct effect on my quality of life.

  35. Leo G

    The point is the prime minister cannot just do what he wants.

    The prime minister can choose the Ministers who will just do what he wants.

  36. Lloyd

    The only bright spot I can see is that I doubt Abbott will do a Rudd and try to to destabilise Turnbull’s government.

    I predict Turnbull will lack the class to offer an olive branch to Abbott in the form of a Ministry, nor would I blame Abbott if he refused to accept any such offer.

  37. .

    Andrew
    #1797284, posted on September 15, 2015 at 10:49 am
    Silly fellows don’t normally become high ranking investment bankers, and he was probably the best shadow treasurer in history. He flogged the Goose like a red headed stepchild. Over and over. On everything. (The dirty secret the meeja never mentioned.)

    It’s not that he’s dumb – he’s just a socially “progressive” inner city elite. His positions are offensive to most LNP voters. I can’t understand why a smart person wouldn’t see through the CAGW hoax but maybe he’s simply never looked or been shown the data by the regressives he surrounds himself with.

    Fairly accurate comment Andrew. He just needs to learn what cointegration is and see there is no long term effect.

    Alan Jones has been hilarious today. The callers don’t know how Parliamentary democracy works. Paul Murray defending Abbott until he nearly died of hypertension was just sad.

    Abbott did himself in. He has a clown as an opposition leader beating him and he never nailed his credentials as a free marketer. Likewise, the stupid light bulb antics haunt Malcolm. If Abbott got rid of Hockey as advised many moons ago on this forum – we might have seen a conservative budget of sorts and this would have never of happened.

    I think the public knew Abbott was too loyal and kept on a big spending treasurer, but had an expectation of fiscal rectitude.

    If the LNP aren’t going to savage the budget, why not just vote in free stuff?

    I’m disappointed he didn’t axe the NBN in its entirety.

  38. mizaris

    The left only hated Abbott because he was openly Christian (nominal Catholic) and a reasonably common-sense, ethical and moral person. He exposed their vacuum. Turncoat is amoral, agnostic/atheistic, and largely a populist vaccilator, and will fit their meme nicely….for about a week. Can’t wait to see how he handles becoming the most unpopular person in Australia via the ALPBC and the rest of the msm.

  39. Andrew

    Everyone knows what you are getting into with Malcolm. Bishop on the other hand, has shown that she is a snake of the highest order and has shied away from any responsibility or involvement. I think that woman needs a spine donor.

  40. Dan

    Hold on! Tony was NOT doing well in the Polls! That hints at disaster in any General Election. The liberals needed to do something. If not replacing Tony, then what? If not Turnbull, then who?

    Abbott and especially Hockey had lost Lib supporters like me and certainly werent going to attract new voters either. I can see how Turnbull may well end up a disaster but with Scomo and Bishop and a few other competent ministers there is some vague possibility of improvement rather than an inevitability of a high taxing LNP government with guaranteed Labor victory next year. I mean if you are about to face the firing squad you aren’t going to be fussy about who comes to untie you. People do seem to have forgotten how bad he was as an opposition leader but he may be a little less vulnerable to disaster in government I suspect.

  41. .

    But for me there’s several key red lines:

    1. Global Warming.
    2. ABC.
    3. Republic.
    4. SSM.
    5. Immigration.

    Apart from one, Abbott does not really offer much more.

    Direct Action. The RET. No inquiry, change, cut funding or privatisation of the ABC.

    Abbott put SSM to the public and it is unlikely he’d block a private member’s bill enabling a republican referendum.

    This is why the public turned on him – sure “we’ll stop the boats” was a big deal, but Rudd’s election shows that people get sick of it and you need more than one policy.

    The public wants to know why they’re still over-regulated, why a lot of ALP policies didn’t get repealed, why government spending went up and why taxes other than the carbon tax didn’t go down (and some went up).

    Abbott really should have listened to old JC and rabz.

    Abbott’s crowning achievement may have been initiation of the Royal Commission into Union Corruption.

  42. incoherent rambler

    1. Global Warming. The first hint that he moves this government into even more stupid “carbon” mitigation measures leading to higher energy prices, I’m out.
    2. ABC. The first hint that he panders to the a-holes in this organisation at the expense of this country’s conservatives, I’m out.
    3. Republic. The first hint that he spruiks again for this pointless gesture, I’m out.
    4. SSM. The first hint that he rams this through the parliament without taking it to the people, I’m out.
    5. Immigration. The first hint that he loosens the border laws which have been so spectacularly successful in reversing Labor’s lethal stupidity, I’m out.

    6. Sliming greens. His first use of the word “sustainable” or “renewable”, I’m out.

  43. Peter G

    There is one tiny bright side here. Malcolm will be genuinely shocked when the ABC starts giving him ‘the treatment’ and he will insist his communications minister brings them under control.

  44. .

    mizaris
    #1797391, posted on September 15, 2015 at 11:56 am
    The left only hated Abbott because he was openly Christian (nominal Catholic) and a reasonably common-sense, ethical and moral person. He exposed their vacuum. Turncoat is amoral, agnostic/atheistic, and largely a populist vaccilator, and will fit their meme nicely….for about a week. Can’t wait to see how he handles becoming the most unpopular person in Australia via the ALPBC and the rest of the msm.

    Actually, they’re both Catholic, Abbott is a terrible public speaker, Malcolm likes the sound of his own voice and they’re both populist.

  45. Leo G

    I posed the question whether this would die an immediate death if AGW was proved not to exist. “No, there’s too much money involved.”

    Carbon emissions compliance would “die the death” though- the no regrets necessary scenario.

  46. incoherent rambler

    Abolish excise, cut income tax and abolish the GST. I’m in.

  47. Struth

    Yep Leo.
    Until he gets voted out.
    Abbott went because he was high in the polls?
    Malcom will burn out quick.
    Abbott was on the nose.
    So will Turnbull.
    We the most politically lethargic people get what we deserve.

  48. .

    incoherent rambler
    #1797419, posted on September 15, 2015 at 12:07 pm
    Abolish excise, cut income tax and abolish the GST. I’m in.

    Why is this so hard? It is all the base wants. Smaller government. The FFP and LDP have been pushing this for years.

  49. Andrew

    Why is this so hard? It is all the base wants. Smaller government. The FFP and LDP have been pushing this for years.

    FTFY – LDP are more interested in SSM, as indicated by Leyonhjelm yesterday with his support of Turnbull.

  50. Leo G

    Abbott went because he was high in the polls?

    Tony Abbott’s failure as prime minister was a genuine tragedy. Like King Lear.
    And shortly Malcolm, like Goneril, be gone he will.

  51. Rob MW

    What if:

    Tony Abbott resigns from the Liberal Party and sits on the cross benches, then joins the National Party and takes 20 other Liberal Party members with him ?

    Poor Mal’s sack would hit the ground 🙂

  52. jupes

    Likewise, the stupid light bulb antics haunt Malcolm.

    Yes. Our national leader believes that Australian light globes can change global temperature.

    Perhaps the stupidest, most embarrassing decision ever made in Australia’s parliament.

    Also let’s not forget he was shadow when Conroy was Communications Minister. Possibly the biggest idiot to every lead a ministry in this country and Turnball hardly laid a glove on him.

  53. Dan

    Tony Abbott resigns from the Liberal Party and sits on the cross benches, then joins the National Party and takes 20 other Liberal Party members with him ?

    I wish. My dream would be to vote Morrison first and Hockey last.

  54. jupes

    LDP are more interested in SSM, as indicated by Leyonhjelm yesterday with his support of Turnbull.

    Why am I not surprised?

    Leyonhjelm is a bigger disappointment than Abbott. A disgraceful man.

  55. .

    Also let’s not forget he was shadow when Conroy was Communications Minister. Possibly the biggest idiot to every lead a ministry in this country and Turnball hardly laid a glove on him.

    I actually think Turnbull flogged him. The thing is you had to read the articles and most people couldn’t be bothered.

    What saved Malcolm was the IT industry turning on Conroy with his ridiculous filter.

    The whole thing was a massive joke.

    1. Every kid gets a free laptop, because, the more money you spend on education, the better (patently false).
    2. So each kid needs ADSL2+ or better (also untrue).
    3. We need a new cable network (I detect a pattern).
    4. So we need a filter for all of Australia or the kids are gonna get pron (ibid).
    5. We need a list of banned websites and if you tell someone which sites are banned, you have committed an offence…(WTF?)

    It all goes back to that stupid “free laptops” idea.

  56. Pedro the Ignorant

    My far left wing relatives were happy as pigs in sunshine last night when they heard Lord Wentworth got the top gig.

    That should tell you something.

    Dark days ahead, methinks.

  57. jupes

    I actually think Turnbull flogged him.

    Yea. Flogged him so hard that he remained at his job and is now shadow Defence Minister.

  58. .

    Andrew don’t be silly. John Key oversaw gay marriage and now an ongoing reduction in the size of government.

  59. C.L.

    Conroy has always struck me as borderline retarded.
    But he was too smart for Malcolm.

  60. .

    They are the ones that retain the Leftist delusions they grew up with as baby boomers.

    So what? Now the Kouk and Emmerson are celebrity economists. The ALP are weirdos. That’s on them.

  61. Empire

    OK, a genuine kind compassionate bloke got knifed by the power elite, but he created the opportunity for them to pounce. That’s politics, but let’s be clear, Turnbull wants to win the next election.

    The issues of most concern to voters in the most marginal seats are predominately local. Expect plenty of pork for them.

    More broadly, border security is a natural strength for the LNP. If country shoppers start turning up in boats and the detention centres begin to fill again, Mal’s in trouble, so don’t expect any changes there, whatever his personal views.

    As for the conservative base, he cares as much about you as Tony did – very little. He knows you won’t swing left. The worst he can expect is that your $2.50 odd first preference vote is lost. The federal party machine will analyse the cost and weigh it against the votes that can be harvested from the marginals where the game is won and lost.

    The only polls they care about are 2PP in marginal seats. The rest is window dressing.

    The CPS still runs the government and the moochers will keep on mooching. Business as usual.

  62. Struth

    Abbotts gone because he pissed off his base which reflected in the polls because he danced for the left.
    Abbott chose his own ministers Leo, how did that work out?
    He was no good and the way democracy works means his colleagues got nervous.
    Malcom has already pissed off the base way before now.
    This proves the desperation of the Libs faced with a lack of anyone else to step up.pthey are just praying hell spring to the right.
    Ho f…ing ho.

  63. Andrew

    Andrew don’t be silly. John Key oversaw gay marriage and now an ongoing reduction in the size of government.

    Absolutely, but Leyonhjelm is not interested in that. He is more interested in open borders, SSM, marijuana and guns. Not relevant to actual small government in the long-run.

  64. Leo G

    Our national leader believes that Australian light globes can change global temperature.
    Perhaps the stupidest, most embarrassing decision ever made in Australia’s parliament

    Symbolic of his commitment to energy efficiency and carbon dioxide emissions abatement, Turnbulbs actually waste much more energy than the incandescents they replaced- because of the unsuitability of miniature Mercury vapour lamps in short cycle operation.
    Essentially, Turnbulbs don’t live up to their promises, are dim from the start, slow to respond and don’t last.

  65. Empire

    Leyonhjelm is a bigger disappointment than Abbott. A disgraceful man.

    Agreed. How could anyone have anything but disdain for a Senator who regularly admonishes 74 fellow Senators (that’s all of them except Day) for playing fast and loose with other peoples’ money? It’s their money to spend as they see fit. He should be hanged for heresy.

  66. Y

    Labour and ABC / Fairfax will Romney Turnbull. He won’t see it coming.

  67. areff

    Worth a look. Monckton prophecies Abbott’s downfall:

  68. .

    Andrew
    #1797493, posted on September 15, 2015 at 12:43 pm
    Andrew don’t be silly. John Key oversaw gay marriage and now an ongoing reduction in the size of government.

    Absolutely, but Leyonhjelm is not interested in that. He is more interested in open borders, SSM, marijuana and guns. Not relevant to actual small government in the long-run.

    Ending the drug war and getting rid of the police state treatment of shooters has nothing to do with the size of government?

    SSM might be irrelevant, depending on your point of view. The 1980s saw little illegal immigration, smaller government and looser border controls. We could vary total spending and border policy and for the most part they’d be unconnected.

    I don’t know how you can discount the insane and counterproductive war on drugs, and police state treatment of shooters as some sort of neutral or positive issues for reducing the size of government.

  69. JC

    The one I really want to see the end of is Bishop.

  70. Aussiepundit

    Conroy has always struck me as borderline retarded.
    But he was too smart for Malcolm.

    Turnbull was swimming against the tide on that one.

    Conroy had the weight of almost universal ‘expert’, ‘elite’ (I use those terms in scare quotes), and media opinion broadly behind him ; there were a lot of voices, particularly vested interests, clamouring that the NBN was an unmitigated good, and any opposition to it was retrograde, and due to a failure to understand technological trends.

    Also, this wasn’t just Turnbull’s failure to counter it but the coalition generally, including the opposition leader. Abbott successfully neutralised some policies, but he failed on this one.
    The NBN, as a major, top-line policy should have been on the agenda of the entire opposition, and actually, for a while it was.

    Tony Abbott tried to campaign against the NBN, but got no traction at all. He made some elementary mistakes on the details, then in one ABC interview, explained to the interviewer that he was “no expert” on the topic. Thereafter, Abbott departed the stage, outsourcing the entire job of opposing the NBN to Turnbull.

    Turnbull’s tactic was, rather than just being Mr No, find a way to scale it back. And that’s what he did. It was a reasonable solution, given the political realities.

  71. Aussiepundit

    I don’t know how you can discount the insane and counterproductive war on drugs

    I do.
    It’s clear that you’re conversing with a big-state social conservative who drinks beer.
    Such people in my experience tend to be resistant to the whole idea of ending the ‘war on drugs,’ even though the war on drugs is one of the largest scale absurdities in modern society.

  72. Aussiepundit

    Yes. Our national leader believes that Australian light globes can change global temperature.

    Here we go with fucking light bulbs again.

    Every time one of you morose whiners mentions light bulbs, tell me what you think of Tony Abbott’s wealth tax.
    …. and paid parental leave for that matter.
    …. and his proposed referendum on constitutional changes.
    … and his budget deficits.

  73. john constantine

    Breaking news, julie bishop to stand against mini-me to serve as deputy under Dr Evil.

  74. cuckoo

    Turnbull is the marxist collective’s favourite enemy. They still intend to win, but he’s the pantomime villain they want to defeat.

    The chatterers’ strange preference for Turnbull reminds me of Wilde’s quote about the ‘rage of Caliban at not seeing his face in the glass’. They seem to want to see their face reflected back to them in everything, even the political opponent they have no intention of voting for. And they see it in Turnbull.

  75. Tom

    Laura Jayes is a political reporter? She’s just been babbling some baby talk about the importance of the “healing process”. For her, politics is a fantasy construct like the big white fluffy teddy bears on her bed.

  76. gabrianga

    The public wants to know why they’re still over-regulated, why a lot of ALP policies didn’t get repealed,

    I presume you have heard of the Senate and who holds the cards when it comes to a vote.

  77. Aussiepundit

    I presume you have heard of the Senate and who holds the cards when it comes to a vote.

    No. It’s on Abbott’s head.
    He was either too chickenshit to take the policies he really wanted to the senate, or he never believed those policies anyway.

  78. Leo G

    This proves the desperation of the Libs faced with a lack of anyone else to step up.pthey are just praying hell spring to the right.
    Ho f…ing ho.

    Do you mean “dancing headsprung” to the Right?
    Your stance says more about your own fears than about any of Abbott’s tragic flaws as leader.

  79. .

    Fair enough. Lambie didn’t want FoFA repealed, because she doesn’t understand finance and probably think Industry Super funds are fantastic.

  80. Struth

    It’s an observation Leo g.

  81. .

    “He was either too chickenshit to take the policies he really wanted to the senate, or he never believed those policies anyway.”

    – The budget was the biggest of all.

    Day and Leyonhjelm would have helped a responsible budget pass.

  82. Aussiepundit

    Fair enough. Lambie didn’t want FoFA repealed, because she doesn’t understand finance and probably think Industry Super funds are fantastic.

    That’s what double dissolutions are for.

    Different people are suited to different styles of play.

    The old Abbott, the fighter Abbott, would have put the strong reforms to the senate, and been ready to blow it up (metaphorically) with a DD. Abbott spent years as a political brawler, that’s his natural style, and that’s when he performs best.

    But once he got into the top office, he tried to change his spots, and become some kind of consensus-building sensitive centrist and compromiser. He’s no good at that, yet strangely that’s what he wanted to be. He tried to be Bob Hawke the second, even though it was a poor fit to both his personality and his lifelong learned skills. Nobody could convince him otherwise.

    And this is the result.

  83. Struth

    All we can do is threaten our local lib reps with a war if Turnbull even glances to the left.

  84. closeapproximation

    He just needs to learn what cointegration is …

    Don’t worry, Malcolm will be showing us his rooted unit any day now.

  85. Ros

    Just watched Turnbull and his extended family at the swearing in. Assorted of the Australian and Liberal aristocracy. Ah the Liberal world is back in the hands of those to whom it naturally belongs.

  86. Aussiepundit

    Assorted of the Australian and Liberal aristocracy.

    So you’re running ALP attack lines for them now?

  87. strange

    Steve Kates – suck it up! Lots of sour grapes from you. Ha, ha, ha. Abbott was absolutely useless. That you can’t see that shows that you now have both eyes closed, not just the usual one.

  88. jupes

    The ALP are weirdos.

    Hence the support of the LDP.

  89. .

    The ALP, like the LNP and Greens, have been part of the “major party” carve up.

  90. jupes

    Every time one of you morose whiners mentions light bulbs, tell me what you think of Tony Abbott’s wealth tax. –

    This was perhaps his dumbest move. He destroyed TLS for lying then broke his promise not to increase taxes. Moronic.

    …. and paid parental leave for that matter.

    Sucking up to women so they would like him – Idiot.

    …. and his proposed referendum on constitutional changes.

    Sucking up to Abos so they would like him – Idiot.

    … and his budget deficits.

    He wasn’t able to persuade the self serving electorate that the reckless spending had to stop. He started this by agreeing to the NDIS and ‘Gonski’. – Gutless.

    Nevertheless, the above examples of pathetic leadership are nothing compared to banning light bulbs on the totally useless gestures scale.

    It is delusional to think that banning a certain type of light bulb in Australia can change the global temperature. Absolutely moronic.

  91. Token

    Abbott was not useless Strange.

    He was not good enough, but light years better than the clusterf**ks on the opposition benches who are directly involved in, or are one person removed, the most overt corruption built upon intimidation.

    What do you base that statement upon?

  92. Ros

    No I am not and if I was Catallaxy is hardly a useful place to do so. In fact my comment is in keeping with the tenor of this post.

    The ABC was running through the hereditary and intermarriages and it struck me that the story of the motherless Malcolm who had to make his own way is in fact about a well connected fellow from his birth.

    It seems that Turnbull’s family history make him acceptable below the Barassi line unlike Abbott.

  93. Walter Plinge

    It is delusional to think that banning a certain type of light bulb in Australia can change the global temperature. Absolutely moronic.

    Indeed, but it was only so “Europeans” and the New York Times would love us once again. Didn’t work out quite that way.

  94. Ros

    Lovely man is Turnbull. The ALP is going to struggle to know which of the so many gems to use against him. One lovely place would be his blog back in 2099 dropping excrement all over the place eith liberal commenters begging him to stop and think about the future. Or in the National press, eg the Age,

    “Many Liberals are rightly dismayed that on this vital issue of climate change we are not simply without a policy, without any prospect of having a credible policy but we are now without integrity. We have given our opponents the irrefutable, undeniable evidence that we cannot be trusted.”

    Where does he go from that.

  95. ella

    Turnbull and the rest of the dull-witted enthusiasts’ support for left-wing social policies will play a major role in expanding the State, and ultimately rip asunder any half-hearted attempt at economic reform.

    Turnbull, pet economists, crony capitalists and the like know the cost of everything and the value of nothing – as the saying goes.

    Choose any policy: border, ETS, same sex marriage.

    The contrived fantasy of same sex marriage is based on the idea that marriage is a social construct. Separating marriage from its foundation in biology is the only way the enthusiasts are able to promote the idea that marriage is purely a product of our imagination, and nothing else.

    Essentially, saying marriage has nothing to do with biology doesn’t make it true. Saying 2+2=5 doesn’t make it true either.

    As soon as same sex marriage becomes reality there will be a migration from abstraction to tangible enactment. All institutions will be infected with this virus. Education will be one of the many. Through same-sex marriage (and the claim that gender is a social construct) the virus will migrate into sex education where it is already being enacted in Canada

    If it wasn’t before, Turnbull will ensure the genie is out of the bottle. And we will see how enthusiastic parents who supported Turnbull’s rise to prominence will be when they are confronted with the truth.

  96. softly

    Australians now have a choice between a pompous windbag and a vacuous blowhard.

  97. Ros

    Joe gets the inevitable question, makes a friendly joke, laughter but not from Bishop. Chooses to look away for the time of his speaking. Warren Truss answering, Bishop, Pyne, Turnbull leaning close and laughing gaily. Bereft of empathy, overwhelmed by their hubris. Yuck.

  98. .

    “Turnbull and the rest of the dull-witted enthusiasts’ support for left-wing social policies will play a major role in expanding the State, and ultimately rip asunder any half-hearted attempt at economic reform.”

    No.

    Gay marriage will stop repeal of OH&S laws?

    Really?

    “Turnbull, pet economists, crony capitalists and the like know the cost of everything and the value of nothing – as the saying goes.”

    Now you’re prattling on with left wing anti academic tripe to argue “for” reform.

  99. Jim

    When I went to bed last night Australia had a PM that couldn’t string a sentence together that was leading the Coalition to an almost certain election loss.

    This morning I woke up and we had a new PM that can form thoughts and sentences longer than three words… and an opposition leader that is looking very much like a rabbit that has seen the headlights come over the hill.

    The downside risk of changing PM is effectively zero. But there is actually an upside risk, and the betting markets are reflecting that already.

  100. mr skeletor

    Give it a break with the betting markets already – it hasn’t even been a day!
    They are not reflective of Jack shit yet.

    Besides, it’s not a sport. Why do I want the Libs to win if they are going to bum fuck me?
    Oh wait, Malcolm is a changed man….

    Fact is tits is now the most right wing leader of a major party.

  101. srr

    at 3:02 pm

    Joe gets the inevitable question, makes a friendly joke, laughter but not from Bishop. Chooses to look away for the time of his speaking. Warren Truss answering, Bishop, Pyne, Turnbull leaning close and laughing gaily. Bereft of empathy, overwhelmed by their hubris. Yuck.

    Yes Ros, ugly isn’t it –

    at 3:11 pm

    urrgh … watching Julie Bishop’s smug face as she gazes approvingly at Turnbull in QT …. and while Hockey is up, she has better things to look down on … and she get’s on too bloody well with Plibersek; that ‘bitch’ she said to camera the other day, wasn’t aimed ‘against’ Plibersek, but aimed to give Abbott more stinking fog …

    Politics Live: February 12, 2015
    http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/1/3/c/y/4/p/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.13cy8w.png/1423713169618.jpg
    Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop and shadow minister Tanya Plibersek speak behind the Speaker’s chair during

  102. Rob

    When I went to bed last night Australia had a PM that couldn’t string a sentence together that was leading the Coalition to an almost certain election loss.

    This morning I woke up and we had a new PM that can form thoughts and sentences longer than three words… .

    Of course he can, all his thoughts are about his favourite subject – himself. It remains to be seen if he is any better than Shorten.

  103. Leo G

    But there is actually an upside risk, and the betting markets are reflecting that already

    There was I thinking that in a betting market, an upside merely involved a better estimate of the odds than the market.

  104. john constantine

    The shortfilth is the most right wing leader of any Australian party since Menzies.

  105. DA

    I picked Abbott as a loser in February 2008. He complained publicly that he couldn’t live on a backbencher’s salary after having been a minister. So of course he didn’t cut the budget deficit once he became PM. He is a spendthrift. Now he will go from being PM on $0.5 million per annum to a bankbencher on $190,000 per annum. Apparently Bill Heffernan bailed him out.
    What was the first thing he did when he became PM? He went on a skiing holiday in France. No fire in the belly. He didn’t want to right wrongs. He was quite happy to drift along.
    Then there is the PPL – purely socialist. He forced the conservatives in the party to spend their energy fighting the government on the PPL, aboriginal recognition in the constitution, local government in the constitution.
    He was too stupid to think for himself and wouldn’t seek advice.
    And people forget that he lost the previous election because he didn’t crawl over cut glass to Windsor and Oakshott, and we endured another three years of Labor.
    The search goes on for someone on the right who cares and takes an interest in policy.
    And it won’t be Morrison – he has been photographed hanging out with Oakshott and Jason Clare in Borneo.

  106. J.H.

    The polls are an ongoing lie. They were more a reflection of the media class’s hatred of Tony Abbott than indicative of the electorate, this far out from an election. The liberal party was always going to be competitive in the next election. The Canning by election was proving that.

    Turnbull would never push for the leadership if he thought that he was going to be ultimately, captaining a losing ship. Tony Abbott was going to win, Turnbull’s ego makes him think he’ll be even better…. The media will now mollify Turnbull and his supporters with comfortable polls and less vitriol. Turnbull will believe it desperately…. he sort of has to now.

    So the comprehensive loss to Labor at the next election will come as a complete surprise to them…. Not to us, but to them.

    I’m pretty sure disenfranchised Conservative liberals will vote Informal for the House of Reps and select minority Senators in the Upper House…. The LDP should do well out of this. (maybe the LDP’s pro same sex marriage stance might send the more thoughtful to other parties…. or maybe not…. after all, it is more a protest vote and the LDP will provide ideological mollification on many of their other stances…)

    Interesting times ahead….. all bad for the Liberal party and all well and truly self inflicted by the political class. We have no power other than our near useless vote…. Conservatives will withhold it rather than reward Turnbull.

  107. egg_

    These are all, on both sides , career politicians.

    Precisely, hence R-G-R on one side and (N-)T-A-T on t’other.

  108. Ros

    Who is DA and what is he talking about. The optimistic part of me thinks he is a wandering fruit loop, the cynical part of me thinks he is a Turnbull bot.

  109. Aussiepundit

    The polls are an ongoing lie.

    No, they’re not.
    Move around Australian society beyond solidly conservative circles and you’ll find that Abbott is wildly unpopular.

  110. cynical1

    And people forget that he lost the previous election because he didn’t crawl over cut glass to Windsor and Oakshott,.

    Crawl? To those two scumbags?

    Fuck losing the election.

    It was worth it.

  111. Austin Mangosteen
  112. Not again

    Here’s why Malcolm will be a disaster.

    He is a passionate warmist. And it is not possible to be a warmist and a Liberal, or a warmist and a libertarian. It’s like saying you are a Trotskyite Liberal or communitarian libertarian. It’s impossible. They are opposites.

    The AGW scam was designed to be the on-ramp to global socialism. To the extent that a politician is warmist they accept the tenets of a neo-Malthusian anti-industrial authoritarian neo-socialism, which is at odds in every possible way with the tenets of a pro freedom, pro initiative, pro business, classical Liberal outlook. See Vaclav Klaus; Blue Planet, Green Shackles.

    I know some of the more naive Cats think that Turnbull will deliver good economic management and good well intentioned govt to Australians, but he cannot. Because to be a warmist means that you are primarily committed to making life worse for Australians, behind their backs and against their will. So to be a warmist and to govern well are mutually exclusive. See everything that has happened since 2007.

    Remember how conservative commenters were moderately enthusiastic about Julia G in the first week? Yeah. That.

  113. Smarmy Snivelling-Nasal

    Class hatred? Mirror for you, dunce.

  114. .

    “DA
    #1797943, posted on September 15, 2015 at 5:40 pm
    I picked Abbott as a loser in February 2008. He complained publicly that he couldn’t live on a backbencher’s salary after having been a minister. So of course he didn’t cut the budget deficit once he became PM. He is a spendthrift. Now he will go from being PM on $0.5 million per annum to a bankbencher on $190,000 per annum. Apparently Bill Heffernan bailed him out.
    What was the first thing he did when he became PM? He went on a skiing holiday in France. No fire in the belly. He didn’t want to right wrongs. He was quite happy to drift along.
    Then there is the PPL – purely socialist. He forced the conservatives in the party to spend their energy fighting the government on the PPL, aboriginal recognition in the constitution, local government in the constitution.
    He was too stupid to think for himself and wouldn’t seek advice.
    And people forget that he lost the previous election because he didn’t crawl over cut glass to Windsor and Oakshott, and we endured another three years of Labor.
    The search goes on for someone on the right who cares and takes an interest in policy.
    And it won’t be Morrison – he has been photographed hanging out with Oakshott and Jason Clare in Borneo.”

    Fairly good critique – remember, he agonised over joining the ALP or Liberals, and the ALP didn’t want MT.

    Until we see some dries in their early 30s have an internal coup (and also agree to winding back middle class welfare and spending to the beginning of the Howard era), the LNP aren’t going to offer readers of this site much.

    I don’t know if O Dwyer and Roy cut the mustard. They’ve shown some of the right rhetoric but politics is a market for lemons.

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