Wednesday Forum: September 30, 2015

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  1. Ez

    So far Turnbull has spent about $3 billion, banned a Christian apologist from entering Australia, banned free market price setting in deference to the communist NUS, announced a more peaceful approach to unions and announced plans to “change the world” at the United Nations. He also wants to re-educate men, stop warming and mend fences with the ABC.

    But how ’bout them Newspoll numbers!

  2. C.L.

    “The billions and billions of dollars that are spent on war, what they call the war on terror, if we were able to funnel that sort of money into health systems, set up good hospitals, set up good schools … I strongly believe that would harbour gratitude and at least reduce the risk of people who may turn to those sorts of [ideologies and actions] out of desperation,” she said.

    LOL.

  3. Token

    But how ’bout them Newspoll numbers!

    Lord Waffler is boring people night & day to address that anomaly.

  4. C.L.

    How long can it be before Turnbull follows Obama’s lead and addresses the nation on the transgender need for a “safe place to pee”?

  5. Anne

    Boris, ‘Catallaxians’ are individuals.

    Well, not Dot. He’s a cardboard cutout with a Waaah Wah string pull attached.

  6. Ros

    The Australian,
    “NEW diesel cars from manufacturers including Renault, Nissan, Hyundai, Citroen, Fiat, Volvo allegedly produce more emissions when tested in realistic driving conditions, according to data from Europe’s biggest motoring organisation.

    Only a quarter of the 79 different cars tested by Adac matched their official performance on the existing EU test, it has been reported in the Guardian and Independent newspapers.

    The results show the Volvo S60, Renault’s Espace Energy, the Jeep Renegade and Nissan-made X-Trail all exceeded legal European limits for nitrogen oxide (NOx) by more than 10 times.”

  7. Grigory M

    the jealous dried up harpy

    Unnecessarily harsh comment IMO.

  8. Nic

    But how ’bout them Newspoll numbers!

    I can’t wait to stuff such info fair up the clackers of all my lefty mates who told me about the millions who would vote Liberal if only Turnbull was leader.

  9. calli

    Looks like all the manufacturers are doing it.

    All diesel cars off the roads! Now!

  10. Ros

    Malcolm Turnbull says “everything is on the table” at today’s meeting of business, union and community leaders as he and his economic ministers “listen” and “engage” with their suggestions to drive innovation and productivity across the country.

    The leaders, who took part in the National Reform Summit in August, will be involved in a “full and frank” three-hour discussion at Parliament House but the Prime Minister insists he will not “come out and announce a whole lot of policy changes” afterwards.

    Mr Turnbull described the high-powered meeting as an “exercise in listening and engaging” and said it was part of being a “modern, consultative, 21st century government”.

    And

    “asked if curbing high-end superannuation tax concessions and increasing or broadening the GST base were back on the table for consideration, Mr Turnbull said: “Everything is on the table.”

    So the uber rich sod is going to go after the comfortably off. But he will be sad and humble.

  11. Fisky

    Anne linked approvingly to Golden Dawn. Oh dear.

  12. C.L.

    Turnbull: ‘Everyone loves me, clearly.’

    Party ‘happy with transition’.

    Malcolm Turnbull plays down claims of Liberals resigning, saying feedback shows members “very happy with the transition.”

  13. Ez

    How long can it be before Turnbull follows Obama’s lead and addresses the nation on the transgender need for a “safe place to pee”?

    The ‘Year of Domestic Voilence’ is nearly over. Turnbull’s just needs a suitable candidate for AOTY in 2016 to lock this in.

  14. calli

    Something that social media has destroyed. Unpacking all the books and shelving, I came across a little box of letters written by the Beloved. Date was christmas ’74. Tied in a blue ribbon and all.

    Rather nice going through that lot.

    😀

  15. Mike of Marion

    Full tilt: Ban the ‘knocker’!!!!!!

    Diesel engines are Abbott666 EVIL!

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Three years after the Palestinians broke the Oslo accords by applying to the UN for observer status, and one year after doing the same again by going to the ICC, Abbas, who is in the eleventh year of his 4 year term as President, says he’s pulling out of the accords because squirrel.

    President Mahmoud Abbas says Palestine no longer bound by agreements with Israel

    I smell a severe case of relevance deprivation syndrome since the world is presently quite busy with all those jihadis breeding like flies on a dead Palestinian camel.

    Maybe the Palis should all move to Germany and claim asylum while they still have a victimology ranking.

  17. Fisky

    So, what libertarian measures has the libertarian PM introduced today?

  18. C.L.

    Turnbull’s Ideas Summit begins:

    Malcolm Turnbull has opened a meeting with business, union and civil society leaders on national reform calling for “good ideas’’ and declaring the nation has to engage with the challenges facing Australia “and the ways to take advantage of them’’.

  19. C.L.

    So, what libertarian measures has the libertarian PM introduced today?

    Today he has banned a Christian apologist and outlawed universities setting their own fees.

  20. goatjam

    Malcolm Turnbull is about as libertarian as Colonel Klink

  21. mr skeletor

    The next ‘leader’ who promises no more of these retarded gab fests gets my votes. Don’t care if it’s the Greens!

    Seriously, Waffles has been plotting for years. Didn’t he plan at all what he was oging to do after the backstabbing was done?

  22. goatjam

    Didn’t he plan at all what he was oging to do after the backstabbing was done?

    He needs to do stuff when he is PM? Is not preening for the media enough?

  23. calli

    Regardless of what is discussed at the “Ideas Summit”, the result is already determined.

    You munni bilong us.

    The means by which we are relieved of our hard earned will probably be innovative.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    A 3 hour summit should be enough time for the Waffling Wifflebat of Wentworth to get his opening and closing remarks concluded.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Looks like all the manufacturers are doing it.

    Cartoon.

  26. Ms Dolittle

    The Grand Hyatt Cannes Hotel in France. Penthouse Suite, of course.

    Gab, “epic” nose rub! Half your luck. I am starting to miss home. French wine (in my price range) is such crap and they serve their shiraz chilled. It’s not that freaking hot.

  27. Dr Faustus

    The leaders, who took part in the National Reform Summit in August, will be involved in a “full and frank” three-hour discussion at Parliament House but the Prime Minister insists he will not “come out and announce a whole lot of policy changes” afterwards.

    It tells you a whole lot about policy development in Australia that Turnbull should feel the need to assure the punters that three hours of ‘full and frank’ discussion with a non-representative bunch of citizens won’t lead to an instant “whole lot of policy changes“.

  28. goatjam

    I really wish they would call an early election. No chance of that though because that would put the kibosh on Mal signing us up to the Paris Treaty for the rest of eternity.

  29. incoherent rambler

    “very happy with the transition.”

    I have a dressing on my finger after cutting it with a “transition” while “transitioning” some vegetables.

  30. Anne

    Fisk, I was trying to put my view, perhaps awkwardly, that the Coudenhove Kalergi Plan was the inspiration for the current agenda of the Progressive One World Government Globalists of the UN & Political Left.

    Once Dot started with his Tasmanian Devil routine it was pointless trying to clean up.

  31. Mark from Melbourne

    The Simon-Erlich wager 25 years on.

    An outstandingly sensible piece on why Malthusians are always wrong.

  32. Oh come on

    How long do you think it will take for Mark Textor to claim that when he called us a “far right” blog, he actually meant ‘extremely correct’?

  33. Stephen of Glasshouse

    With uterine implants in the news today, how long before the trans alphabet people demand that as a fundamental human right ?

  34. Gab

    Today he has banned a Christian apologist and outlawed universities setting their own fees.

    And no comment from either Sinclair or Leyonhjelm

  35. incoherent rambler

    Mal has a point.

    With JEG, a point was an amber fluid that one drank.
    With Mal, it is something that you thrust between the shoulder blades.

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “The council hasn’t taken a frivolous decision,” he told Welt newspaper. “The alternative would have been to set up beds in the gym.”

    From the link by Fisky. Strange, I thought genuine refugees would have been grateful for anywhere to sleep, even beds in the gym?

  37. incoherent rambler

    Today he has … outlawed universities setting their own fees.

    Uh-oh. I predict staff cuts at the economics dept at RMIT.

  38. “The billions and billions of dollars that are spent on war, what they call the war on terror, if we were able to funnel that sort of money into health systems, set up good hospitals, set up good schools … I strongly believe that would harbour gratitude and at least reduce the risk of people who may turn to those sorts of [ideologies and actions] out of desperation,” she said.

    Oh yes because that has happened all over the West where it has been implemented hasn’t it? All those grateful people we see writing thankyou letters to the taxpayers for funding schools and hospitals. I mean we never see anyone ever being ungrateful or screaming for “more, more more” or demanding that the Atlassians shoulder even more of a burden and “pay their fair share”. I must have imagined that bunch of commie ingrates and their Q&A stunt or the monthly March of the Moochers. Yes, funding of public services hasn’t driven half the country to prefer loopy, failed, ideologies dreamt up by a 19th century bearded smelly loser Kraut “out of desperation”. It hasn’t bankrupted Western nations and bred an underclass of seething, ignorant, feckless, ingrates has it? And all those flooding to the West are SO grateful for their generous treatment aren’t they – I mean just look at all those videos of them showing their gratitude…

    Right, that’s enough sarcasm for today.

  39. Top Ender

    Bolt putting the boot in to any UN toadying:

    WELL, that didn’t take long. Just two weeks as Prime Minister and Malcolm Turnbull is already promising to lick the boots of the tyrants who infest the United Nations.

    Yes, the Turnbull Government is asking for the tremendous honour of joining the UN’s Human Rights Commission.

    And if we’re really good, Australia may join some of the moral paragons on that body supervising our human rights — China, Congo, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Vietnam.

    No, that’s not a joke. These countries really are judges on a UN body meant to save us from exactly such thugs, thieves, theocrats and dictators. We will legitimise a pack of hypocrites we should shun and, in joining, will put ourselves at their level.

    Sure, the Left is cheering, but check the company we’ll keep. Across the table will be Russia, which has stolen Crimea, invaded Ukraine and supplied to rebels the missile and the men that shot down the MH17 jet carrying Australian citizens.

    Also rubbing shoulders with us will be the Saudi autocrats, about to behead and crucify Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, who protested for democracy in 2012, when he was only 17. And we’ll nod thoughtfully as the communist autocrats ruling China, Cuba and Vietnam define for us what should be meant by “human rights”.

    I hope the UN’s showers are industrial strength.

  40. Oh come on

    Oh dear John Kerry is cross with Russia for hitting forces fighting Assad. For gods sake even the Russians are shitting themselves at the prospect of a post-Assad Syria. Who do our leaders think will fill the void after Assad goes?

    IS wielding the arsenal of the Syrian state, which apparently includes large quantities of chemical and biological weapons. What could go wrong?

  41. Tom

    Malcolm Turnbull has opened a meeting with business, union and civil society leaders on national reform calling for “good ideas’’

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

    Welcome back, Kevin 747-2020.

    Is it too early to start calling Lord Waffle the Little Shit?

  42. Top Ender

    Do you provide context to accompany the text dumps?

    Yes. We were talking about Wodehouse. I recommended Thurber. That was one of his short stories. Could not link to it as it was in MS Word.

  43. Oh come on

    Mr Rusty, don’t forget who “she” is. “She” is a Bali bombing survivor. Seems as though she learnt precisely the wrong lessons from that experience.

  44. teddy bear

    They think that once Assad is gone it will turn into an Democratic Utopia just like Libya, anyone remember Libya. For some odd reason it doesn’t get talked about much in the media, wonder why.

  45. goatjam

    Right, that’s enough sarcasm for today.

    There is no such thing as enough, or indeed even too much,. sarcasm Mr Rusty.

  46. Fisky

    Putin is right to hit the Syrian opposition. The so-called rebels are basically interchangeable with ISIS and serve no purpose except to undermine Assad and give up more territory to extremists.

  47. Turnbull’s just needs a suitable candidate for AOTY in 2016 to lock this in.

    I think it is only fair, given the past two years AOTY winners, that the Father of the Cairns children murdered by their Mother be awarded AOTY every year from 2016 until 2023.

  48. goatjam

    Mr Rusty, don’t forget who “she” is. “She” is a Bali bombing survivor.

    Also a professional swampy ecotard.

  49. goatjam

    No doubt she’s a feminist as well. I’m sure she ticks all the lefty boxes otherwise the ABC would never have chosen her at “random” to provide a comment.

  50. Oh come on

    The Russians aren’t keeping their support for Assad a secret. Why would anyone expect them to carry out airstrikes against IS? Practically the entire world is hitting IS from the skies, while no one is hitting the other forces fighting Assad (ie. our ill-selected allies). Russia is hitting the same targets as Assad is. Unsurprisingly.

  51. Rudiau

    daggers
    #1813919, posted on September 30, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    Leo, I think there’s a longer Putin strategy in play apart from the Russian arms sales and the alliance you mention.

    Putin doesn’t want to destroy IS. He’ll exploit it by squeezing it out of Syria. He’ll leave escape routes open to the North (Turkey, then Europe) and the South (the Saudis).

    Chaos in Europe. Chaos in Saudi. Perfect.

    Oil shoots back up and Russia is back.

    You’ve got to admire the bastard if it comes off.

    A sound analysis so far.


    Putin: Get out of the way, O-boy, we got it
    By EBD on September 30, 2015 9:02 PM | 2 Comments

    The WSJ (paywall):

    Russia launched airstrikes in Syria on Wednesday, catching U.S. and Western officials off guard and drawing new condemnation as evidence suggested Moscow wasn’t targeting extremist group Islamic State, but rather other opponents of Bashar al-Assad’s regime..

    Any opponents in particular? Well..

    In Syria’s multi-sided war, Mr. Assad’s military–aided by Iran and the Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah–is fighting both Islamic State and opposition rebel groups, some of which are supported by the U.S. and its allies.

    Ruh-oh. The BBC’s Jon Sopel:

    Extraordinary. A 3-star Russian general went to US embassy in Baghdad this am, saying bombing starts in 1 hour, clear Syria airspace.

    The Obama administration responded forcefully with a George Bush reference:

    “Russia will not succeed in imposing a military solution any more than the United States was successful in imposing a military solution in Iraq,” spokesperson Josh Earnest said.

  52. I think it is only fair, given the past two years AOTY winners, that the Father of the Cairns children murdered by their Mother be awarded AOTY every year from 2016 until 2023.

    How would you select them Mr. Rusty?
    By alphabetical order? By age? By the age of their children? By when they first had “relations” with the mother? By height? By tribal affiliation?
    Which dude would get which year?
    Perhaps in the order they are located? (ie, the first one you manage to find is AOTY that year, this gives you a full year to locate another one – could become difficult toward the end of the run).

  53. Tintarella di Luna

    Margaret Thatcher would squash you like a bug, you hubris filled, hard faced, communist harridan.

    Quite

  54. Rabz

    Malcolm Turnbull is about as libertarian as Colonel Klink

    And about as ‘knowledgable’ as Sergeant Schultz.

  55. Oh come on

    There’s even a tilty photo!

    So one woman is not angry at terrorists.

    HOW IS THIS EVEN REMOTELY NEWSWORTHY????

  56. Tintarella di Luna

    Is it too early to start calling Lord Waffle the Little Shit?

    Maybe, but it’s not too early to call Lord Waffle a Big one.

  57. Talleyrand

    “very happy with the transition.”

    Much like Caitlyn Jenner.

  58. pete m

    But he’s as good looking as Hogan, and Sales wets her knickers in his presence.

  59. goatjam

    So one woman is not angry at terrorists.

    They should move half a dozen extended “refugee” families into her street. That kid of hers will enjoy having some other kids to play with at playgroup.

  60. Rudiau

    Meditate on that for a bit.

    Lol.
    Love it.

  61. Mark from Melbourne

    Mr Zhou is quite remarkable… he can’t recall bi-lingually!

  62. Rabz

    The “Profoundly Libertarianist” makeover has been a resounding success, I see.

    P.S. Love those Erkos.

  63. Rudiau

    One hundred to one there is no mention of a tax increase as an outcome of the Ruddball 2020 summit.
    Any takers.

  64. goatjam

    I’ll take that Rudiau

  65. Rabz

    One hundred to one there is no mention of a tax increase as an outcome of the Ruddball 2020 summit.

    But Rudi – all that superannuation isn’t going to “unlock” itself, I tells ya!

  66. Oh come on

    “Russia will not succeed in imposing a military solution any more than the United States was successful in imposing a military solution in Iraq,” spokesperson Josh Earnest said.

    Actually, the US was extremely successful in imposing military solutions in Iraq. They fucked the joint when they let the civilians take over.

    But at least compare like with like, Josh “Phoney” Earnest. Both of the US’s military solutions in Iraq took the form of full-spectrum, large-scale ground invasions. Russia’s intervention is miniscule in comparison, and has very different objectives.

  67. Right now, somewhere in Canberra, there are a bunch of children with crayons sketching out their dreams on butchers paper;

    MT: Oh that looks lovely Ged, what have you got there?
    GK: It’s a stinky richie rich man Mr.T.
    MT: Oh yes! You’ve got the top hat and twirly moustache and the moneybags, well done Ged. He’s even got dollar sign stink lines floating out of him. Who are all those people in orange and yellow around him?
    GK: Thems the Yoonion guys, they’re going to stab the evil catipal…catterpal…clapit…
    MT: Capitalist?
    GK: Capi-tal-ist, yeah. Stab the evil capitalist and skin him then poo in his mouth. Then they will take all his money and gives a bit back to the poor peoples.
    MT: Just “a bit”?
    GK: Yeah, well the Yoonions got to keep most of the money cos they need nice houses and cars and nice stuff too cos they are the goodies. Then they will get the poor peoples to give them back the money by building them some skools and hops..hosplitals.
    MT: That’s very nice Ged, now I just have to go and see how little Tim is going with his windmill drawing.
    GK: Tim smells of hemp and soy and wears sandals.
    MT: Don’t be rude Ged.
    GK: Sorry Mr.T.

  68. goatjam

    MT: Stop eating the crayons Wyatt

  69. Tal

    The world is stuffed,this is what happens when left wing nutters are allowed to run the joint

  70. Rudiau

    I’ll take that Rudiau

    Aww shit, did I forget my /humoursarc tag again?
    Where’s me clogs?

  71. Myrddin Seren

    Malcolm Turnbull plays down claims of Liberals resigning, saying feedback shows members “very happy with the transition.”

    The problem that Malcolm has encountered over the years is that a mainstream party needs to anoint him so he can realise his Manifest Destiny to lead the country.

    And the factions and self-serving nature of ALPers and Liberals has often thwarted the Grand Plan.

    So, for Malcolm he now has the happy situation of PM and those retrograde Liberals who do not share his esteem for himself are finally leaving.

    If you have resigned, by definition you are no longer a member and so your opinion counts even less than it did when you were and ordinary member. All that is left are the emerging Malcolmites and some hold outs.

    Make it the Malcolm Party. Purge the dissenters. Let’s see what comes next and stop the pussy footing around.

  72. Baldrick

    Malcolm Turnbull has opened a meeting with business, union and civil society leaders on national reform calling for “good ideas’’

    Butcher’s paper, sitting in a circle on the floor and singing ‘From Little Things Big Things Grow’.
    Yes, that actually happened and I expect nothing less from Turnbullshit.

  73. Oh come on

    Dear John McCain

    Please fuck off and die.

    Best

    PS. thank you for your service

  74. How is the Turnbull Labor government progressing?

  75. goatjam

    I think the official word is “excitingly” dover.

    On the Cat we prefer “turgidly”

  76. Oh come on

    abc.net.au/news keeps its front page news relevant:

    Fact check scorecard: How does Joe Hockey’s record of claims and promises stack up?

  77. Rabz

    a meeting … on national reform calling for “good ideas’’

    Or failing those, some “remotely passable ideas”. Or in the absence of those, some “not good ideas”.

    I’m predicting the latter.

  78. C.L.

    Is Cate Blanchett at the Ideas Summit?

  79. feelthebern

    Not shit Sherlock…from the WSJ.

    Russian Airstrike in Syria Targeted CIA-Backed Rebels, U.S. Officials Say

    A Russian airstrike targeted an area in western Syria primarily held by rebel forces backed by the Central Intelligence Agency and allied spy services, U.S. officials said.
    The direct targeting of U.S.-backed rebels by Russian aircraft could escalate tensions with Moscow, which said it deployed attack aircraft to Syria to help the regime of Bashar al-Assad in the fight against Islamic State.

  80. Oh come on

    WTF? ABC24 just interviewed some PoliSci academic about Russia’s intervention in Syria. The guy referred to Assad’s regime as “the lesser of two evils” relative to Daesh. The ABC interviewer immediately interjected with “some would disagree”!

  81. feelthebern

    Is Cate Blanchett at the Ideas Summit?

    We can only hope.

  82. S'

    My geuss for AOTY – Greste. A “journalist” to berate us ordinary folks, telling us how great the ABC is and talk about islamaphobia and how the west is failing the arab world. He ticks the sanctimonious box but might not get up due to being male.

  83. Bruce of Newcastle

    One hundred to one there is no mention of a tax increase as an outcome of the Ruddball 2020 summit.

    Too late. Seven News had the business council saying GST going up should be discussed in da 2020 and ½ summit.

  84. goatjam

    Is Cate Blanchett at the Ideas Summit?

    We can only hope.

    Are you expecting a sink hole to open up and swallow the entire conference bern?

    Perhaps a volcano?

  85. feelthebern

    Just wait until the Russians take down some US or US aligned planes.
    It’s payback for Brisbane.
    This guy doesn’t forget slights.
    Unless you pay him off that is.

  86. goatjam

    He ticks the sanctimonious box but might not get up due to being male.

    It’s not too late to rectify that

  87. Oh come on

    My geuss for AOTY – Greste.

    Not a long shot at all.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh and the unions said income tax on da rich should go up not GST.

  89. Tintarella di Luna

    The “Profoundly Libertarianist” makeover has been a resounding success, I see.

    P.S. Love those Erkos.

    Rabz that’s a dour-faced Turnbullian if ever there was I see he is sporting that golden badge of the Order of Judas Escariot with Bar

  90. C.L.

    If you think we’ve seen peak Obama Manchurian Candidate-iness – think again …

    This blows my mind, it really does:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/359256.php

  91. Rabz

    might not get up due to being male

    It’s not too late to rectify that

    A wig, a dress, some lippy and voila, “Peta Greste”, AotY, come on down!

  92. feelthebern

    Cate Blanchett is a great Australian.
    Without her lobbying the NSW Labor government, we wouldn’t have a $300mill theatre at Walsh Bay devoted to the spoken word.
    Sydney was crying out for another theatre given how all the others in Sydney are operating at full capacity.

  93. Myrddin Seren

    A 3-star Russian general went to US embassy in Baghdad this am, saying bombing starts in 1 hour, clear Syria airspace.

    Twitchy headline:

    Russia orders U.S. airplanes out of Syrian airspace as it begins airstrikes on anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS

    https://twitter.com/mollymotoole/status/649213834994053122/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    Paraphrasing – ‘Russian official requested US aircraft avoid Syrian airspace while the mission underway’

    Whatever one thinks of the Assad regime, they are still the de facto government, even if their terrain holding is only 25% of the country.

    In addition, they have the air traffic control, anti aircraft assets, and the Syrian Arab Air Force ( SyAAF ).

    Also flying in this space are:

    the US-led, anti-ISIS coalition;

    the Turkish Air Force – flying missions in Syria and Iraq against the Kurds; and

    the Israeli Air Force occasionally interdicting heavy arms shipments to Hezbollah.

    Now the Russian Air Force is getting some actual experience combat hours, even it just involves bombing the Nusra Front and their allies.

    The potential for a grievous misunderstanding is huge – no one party is controlling this flying circus.

    The Israelis get it and met with Putin to get some lines of communication open.

    The White House and State Dept appear to be living in a parallel dimension to the world as it really is in the MENA. Obama, Jarrett and Kerry see what they want to see – it really is a cognitive disorder.

  94. Tintarella di Luna

    Is Cate Blanchett at the Ideas Summit?

    We can only hope.

    Where is her paper on the contribution of actors to realigning the tectonic plates and gravity? That should have been the tickler for the entire buffoonery — Turnbull Rudd on steriods – has there been a plane lost in the mountains of New Guinea perchance?.

  95. Rabz

    a dour-faced Turnbullian if ever there was

    Tints – the photo reminds me of a Soviet Plenipotentiary circa 1963.

  96. Gab

    How is the Turnbull Labor government progressing?

    Very “progressive”

  97. rickw

    Libertarian Merkel regime throwing Germans out of their homes.

    I just can’t wait for the Germans to get all nasty again, first time in their history for the right reason!

  98. feelthebern

    The potential for a grievous misunderstanding is huge – no one party is controlling this flying circus.

    It wont be a misunderstanding.
    The Russians will be quite deliberate in shooting down a US aligned plane.
    Too ballsy to have a crack directly at the US.
    Shooting one of ours down would be more likely.

  99. Oh come on

    but might not get up due to being male.

    I don’t think this will matter because…well…one gets the impression that the intimate company of the fairer sex may not be to his taste. NTTAWWT, one could well be wrong etc etc.

  100. Fisky

    Does the New York City council consist wholly of 90 year old Jewish Marxists or something? Beyond parody.

  101. Oh come on

    They could shoot down a US drone without much consequence…and there are plenty of them in the sky. Hell, they could probably even deny responsibility, get away with it, and do it again.

  102. Tintarella di Luna

    Soviet Plenipotentiary circa 1963.

    minus the facial hair and the ethics

  103. Ros

    Putin is playing with Obama’s head. Previously Israel and Russia had established means to avoid accidental conflicts between them. Netanyahu flew to Russia Tuesday for discussions so that mistakes didn’t happen, and to make the point to Putin they did not want Iranian forces threatening them in the Golan. Putin expressed his understanding for their concerns and his belief that they would not be in the position to establish a second front.

  104. C.L.

    Fairfax delirious:

    Turnbull dumps Abbott university reforms

  105. Tintarella di Luna

    but might not get up due to being male.

    but gender is a social construct so as long as the person identifies with the Australia Council gender-du-jour criteria — simples

  106. blogstrop

    On the plus side, Assad isn’t as awful as his dad or his brother. The reality of the ME is you have to have a tough guy in charge or you get either chaos or a vicious and untrustworthy theocracy.
    On the negative side, Assad was a client of Iran, tried to build a nuclear plant on the quiet, and no has allowed arms to flow through to Hezbollah.
    There are no good choices in that general area, only degrees of bad.

  107. feelthebern

    Assad stays.
    It’s fucked.
    But less fucked then Iraq power vacuum 2.0.

  108. Myrddin Seren

    It wont be a misunderstanding.
    The Russians will be quite deliberate in shooting down a US aligned plane.
    Too ballsy to have a crack directly at the US.
    Shooting one of ours down would be more likely.

    bernie…

    I can’t agree.

    Too polarising. Putin is rubbing Obama’s nose in the poo. No need to rev up public opinion by a shoot down. The mere presence of the Russkis is getting right inside Obama’s head – and that’s where Putin is really scoring points.

    Putin has got large slabs of his army combat experience in Ukraine ( to say nothing of the earlier conflicts in Chechnya and Georgia ). At a high cost in manpower – I am not endorsing this approach, but the hard men of the Kremlin are ruthless.

    Now the Russian Air Force is getting real hours up AND learning to fly in airspace with NATO-doctrine air forces and the Israelis and Turks too. Electronics, chatter, tactics – the Russians will be listening for everything in the region.

    All Putin needs now is an excuse to take the rusty Russian navy for a spin and do some live fire on terrorists or pirates or something.

  109. Tintarella di Luna

    There are no good choices in that general area, only degrees of bad.

    Abbott had their measure how long ago?

  110. feelthebern

    MS, I hope you are right.

  111. .

    Anne
    #1814170, posted on October 1, 2015 at 11:01 am
    Boris, ‘Catallaxians’ are individuals.

    Well, not Dot. He’s a cardboard cutout with a Waaah Wah string pull attached.

    Have you got the salute right yet Anne? Wooden heels yet?

  112. Top Ender

    A couple of years ago was in Paris, and saw a two-storey poster of Cate Blanchett on a building along the Seine.

    The French wallopers are supposed to fairly tough, or I would have bought a spray can and enlightened them as to her true nature.

    How do you translate: “rich airhead one-dimensional actor whose understanding of reality is somewhere beyond the orbit of Jupiter”?

  113. rickw

    “Russia will not succeed in imposing a military solution any more than the United States was successful in imposing a military solution in Iraq,” spokesperson Josh Earnest said.

    The USA was successful in Iraq until Obama started moving towards pulling out.

    The Russians (with an army of drunk conscripts) also kicked the crap out of the Afghans until the USA started supplying Stinger surface to air missiles to the Mujahideen.

    To suggest that Toyota Hilux’s and AK-47’s beats all other hardware is ridiculous enough, but when the other side is the Russians, with all their “concern” for collateral damage, this could be a very short engagement.

  114. feelthebern

    Is it racist to say that Arabs neither deserve nor can handle democracy?
    Is it racist to say that they would prefer to live under an oppressive regime?

  115. Oh come on

    Putin is playing with Obama’s head.

    Obama will remain blissfully unaware; he lacks the intellectual curiosity required to even recognise he is being played.

  116. Woolfe

    Woolfe VRWC [email protected]
    I really hope that the @Aus_AirForce have stopped flying missions over Syria. Would hate for there to be a misunderstanding. Like in Ukraine

  117. Ros

    “Either Assad and his main allies, Russia and Iran, accept a political transition that involves Assad’s removal, or Saudi Arabia and its allies will “change the balance of forces on the ground and make it very clear where this is heading,” al-Jubeir said during a meeting Tuesday with reporters while attending the 70th United Nations General Assembly……..Al-Jubeir said Assad helped create the Islamic State and continues to buy its oil while claiming to fight it.”

    It is getting too willing. With Obama still trying to be the boss who cockie why are we still there. We owe him nothing, it is getting very dangerous, as in politically dangerous, which means our people could die for political reasons. Time for them to come home

  118. .

    On the plus side, Assad isn’t as awful as his dad or his brother. The reality of the ME is you have to have a tough guy in charge or you get either chaos or a vicious and untrustworthy theocracy.

    Jordan? Israel?

    Lebanon wouldn’t be a basket case if not for the meddling of the agents of Tehran and Riyadh and the MB.

    The sane nations should band together, ignore Assad and Turkey, give the enlightened FSA elements and Kurds exile and have at ISIS, and allow Israel to hit Hezbollah.

  119. Geriatric Mayfly

    Great Scott! I have been swanning around supermarkets and the TURC has gone into session, today, not as advertised. Have I missed “Sparkles?” Please tell me it isn’t so.

  120. Oh come on

    On the negative side, Assad was a client of Iran, tried to build a nuclear plant on the quiet, and no has allowed arms to flow through to Hezbollah.

    Gosh, it’s an intractable problem, isn’t it? There is clearly no mutually beneficial arrangement the West and Assad could arrive at.

  121. C.L.

    Turnbull’s call for “good ideas” reminds us that he banned the very symbol of the good idea.

  122. .

    I agree rick and bern. The whole thing is absurd and the West spurned a sensible adult – in favour of a drone launching “peace larueate” – who won the award for the same speech miss world is meant to give.

  123. Infidel Tiger

    I have strong feeling that the Liberals will be campaigning for a GST increase at the next election and Labor will be dead against it.

    Voting Labor is going to be easier than I thought.

  124. .

    What a wonderful time to be alive.

  125. Top Ender

    Yulei Zhou on the stand at TURC.

    With translator. If he actually understands English that gives him some more thinking seconds.

  126. Mark from Melbourne

    GM, you have missed very little… we have had one CFMEU organiser who speaks conversational English but “out of respect” requires an interpreter in the Commission.

    He can’t recall in either language. Can’t recall a single detail of conversations he translated over a period of nearly a decade. Any odd payment he can recall was a donation for the annual picnic.

    Where do they find these forgetful folk?

  127. Geriatric Mayfly

    Bolsters his inscrutability, Top Ender.

  128. Oh come on

    the enlightened FSA elements

    This doesn’t amount to a pinch of shit, dot. The FSA is a bust. Assuming there are “enlightened” elements of the FSA, who’s to know if we’ve correctly identified them. Not a reliable partner at all. And the Kurds can’t do the job alone.

    Assad does not appear to be an unreasonable man, and he also doesn’t have a lot of options. Why on earth are we not talking to him?

  129. C.L.

    Yesterday there was a “call” to regulate the Footy Show.

    Well, guess what? It worked:

    AFL Footy Show hit with sexist jokes ban by Channel 9 boss.

    AFL Footy Show stars including stalwarts Sam Newman and Billy Brownless have been gagged from making sexist remarks against women.

    This morning Nine Network Melbourne managing director Ian Paterson met with the mother who was subjected to Brownless’ “stripper” jibe and proposed a forum to reform sexism in the sports media and sporting environments.

    In this meeting Mr Paterson said sexist remarks will no longer be tolerated on the AFL Footy Show and he wants to create a forum, engaging all networks and leading bosses across all sports, to address the issue…

    Mr Paterson indicated the days of Footy Show stars making “sexist jokes” were coming to an end.

  130. .

    I did mention they were very thin in numbers in an aborted post, which would make exile easy.

    The Kurds can’t do shit, Turkey is bombing them.

    What I said before may not be correct or ferasible but America/the West needs a clear objective or should GTFO.

    Fighting a war that is this many sided, with such cluttered airspace, is a recipe for disaster.

    If America sided with Turkey and against the Kurds it would remove a lot of legitimacy of themselves and the Iraqi regime in Iraq.

  131. Fisky

    The Free Syrian Army is a fake organisation with about three members. It will never have the capacity to rule a united Syria or even the Sunni parts of Syria.

  132. S'

    My bad. AOTY 2015 had this
    http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/3209776/history-making-women-our-top-citizens/?cs=4656

    Greste will take it unless they really go for the DV angle.

  133. .

    In this meeting Mr Paterson said sexist remarks will no longer be tolerated on the AFL Footy Show and he wants to create a forum, engaging all networks and leading bosses across all sports, to address the issue…

    Mr Paterson indicated the days of Footy Show stars making “sexist jokes” were coming to an end.

    Yet Ellen or some other pap will have the Chippendales or some other young well groomed performance enhancing addicted bucks…and the wymmyneses will still buy the raunchy footballer calendars.

    3rd wave feminism is about dominance masked as equality.

  134. Ros

    Back in our quagmire, on Tuesday small business hadn’t scored an invite. Any change? Retiree representatives seemed to be off the invitation list also even as we get signs they have got their eyes on them for money.

    When Gillard said who cares about pensioners they don’t vote for me, if she did, she was right they didn’t. But retirees do vote for Turnbull and the sneering and put downs from his various mouthpieces can only go on for so long without causing him harm. Excluding them from a discusson on how to tax them, and possibly Roy’s dreams of sinking their savings into venture capital, is well, just rude.

    Super rich bastard going after the middle class, not nice.

  135. .

    …and it will be easy to give exile to three people – or assess their security threat.

    Note I said Kurds should be given refuge as well.

  136. Tel

    I have strong feeling that the Liberals will be campaigning for a GST increase at the next election and Labor will be dead against it.

    Voting Labor is going to be easier than I thought.

    To quote the most honest politician Australia has ever known:

    “once we get in we’ll just change it all”

    What can I say to top that? Proud fiscal conservative. No carbon tax. No child will live in poverty.

  137. Myrddin Seren

    ….or Saudi Arabia and its allies will “change the balance of forces on the ground and make it very clear where this is heading,” ( the Saudi foreign minister ) said during a meeting Tuesday with reporters while attending the 70th United Nations General Assembly

    I dunno. Seems to me that between

    a hot war in Yemen – that has not been a cake walk for the Saudis

    concerns about Shia unrest in the eastern Saudi (oil rich ) provinces, as well as among their Gulf neighbours like Bahrain;

    rising tensions with nuclear-threshold state Iran;

    the meltdown in Iraq on their northern border, and

    a rising Islamist insurgency at home

    the Saudis seem stretched as it is.

    Little hard to see a Saudi-led expeditionary force plunging in to Syria.

    I suspect this is bluster from the increasingly anxious Saudi regime.

  138. So the call to police The Footy Show worked. Business is part of the problem now.

  139. New York City Council honors Ethel Rosenberg:
    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/359243.php

    FMD, this isn’t even hyperbole.
    New York City Council is honouring an American citizen who was executed for treason. She passed atomic bomb secrets to the USSR.

    F.M.D.

  140. Grigory M

    Russia orders U.S. airplanes out of Syrian airspace as it begins airstrikes on anti-Assad rebels, not ISIS

    That is probably correct. No point saying one thing and meaning another.

    Now the Russian Air Force is getting some actual experience combat hours, even it just involves bombing the Nusra Front and their allies.

    Dealing with the immediate threat to Assad first. Dealing with ISIS next.

  141. mr skeletor

    Turnbull dumps Abbott university reforms

    Wasn’t this “Mr Fixers” idea? What does that mincing poodle have to say?

  142. john constantine

    Their saudis only have a handful of effective and loyal troops. These reliable and effective lads are being held in reserve for the fighting retreat to the Paris and London bound lear jets, and the maintaining of a safe perimeter around the airstrips shuffling the last loads of wealth to the boltholes.

    Having the saudi’s palace guard chopped by the Russkis isn’t in the grand plan, even if the saudi ‘comical ali’ promises grand victories all the way to Moscow.

  143. .

    Here you go Gab.

    Also respectful debate.

    https://www.facebook.com/LDP.australia/posts/10153278758377672

    Alex Shifler I know the topic is against party platform but I think this is abuse of power.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/29/australia-blocks-travel-pro-lifer-helped-produce-baby-parts-videos/

    Australia Blocks Travel for Pro-Lifer Who Helped Produce Baby-Parts Videos – Breitbart
    Troy Newman isn’t being allowed to fly from the US to Australia for a ten-city speaking tour related to the undercover baby-parts videos.
    BREITBART.COM
    1 · 2 hrs

    Liberal Democratic Party (LDP)
    Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Definitely an abuse of power and should rightly be condemned regardless of your opinions on abortion.
    1 · 35 mins

    Alex Shifler
    Alex Shifler My person belief is somebody else’s life comes before my liberty and its the only issue I fundamentally disagree with the LDP….I get the premise of liberty based legislation and the LDP platform but I simply disagree.
    32 mins

  144. Myrddin Seren

    Russia had to up the ante to protect its Syrian coastal assets or fold its cards – because the Assad family heartland in Latakia is no longer a remote bastion and Fortress Latakia, it is now on the front line.

    KTJ, a mainly Uzbek group that formally pledged allegiance to Al Nusrah Front on September 29, has claimed responsibility for an attack on the “Russian infidels” in the Latakia province.

    Al Nusrah Front is al Qaeda’s official branch in Syria.

    When KTJ announced its bayat (allegiance) to Al Nusrah on September 29, it specifically noted that Al Nusrah “is operating as al Qaeda’s wing in Syria.”

    It was important to unite against the “Safavid [Iranian]-American-Russian alliance against Muslims,” KTJ stated.

    However, KTJ had long fought side-by-side with Al Nusrah and other al Qaeda-linked groups against the Assad regime.

    If there are any ‘good guys’ left here – they’re hiding or looking to get out. And the western ‘We’ get lumped with the Iranians and Russkies in their target list.

  145. Oh come on

    The Turks are targeting the PKK, not the Kurds in Erbil. The Iraqi Kurds are the only Kurdish group worth backing.

    A lot of nations and groups who currently oppose each other as well as IS have an awful lot to gain if they hold their noses, make nice with each other and focus on the common enemy.

    As I said a few days ago, bringing Assad into the Western camp is the biggest strategic no-brainer since Iran-Contra. If the West offered to meaningfully prop up Assad’s regime – give him what he needs to retake his country and, in return, he’ll divorce Iran and leave Israel alone – does anyone think he’d refuse the deal?

  146. Snoopy

    Turnbull dumps Abbott university reforms

    Wasn’t this “Mr Fixers” idea? What does that mincing poodle have to say?

    Wasn’t the Great Communicator going to end Senate roadblocks?

  147. Oh come on

    Wasn’t the Great Communicator going to end Senate roadblocks?

    To be fair, I don’t recall him ruling out total surrender as a means to achieve this.

  148. Tom

    What a wonderful time to be alive.

    Dot, I believe IT owns the patent on that Cat Saying. If you wish to use it, have your accountants talk to his people.

  149. Snoopy

    If the West offered to meaningfully prop up Assad’s regime – give him what he needs to retake his country and, in return, he’ll divorce Iran and leave Israel alone

    OCO, if you were Assad who would you trust more, Iran or the Obama ‘led’ West?

  150. Snoopy

    To be fair, I don’t recall him ruling out total surrender as a means to achieve this.

    Well observed. I stand corrected.

  151. Tel

    Too polarising. Putin is rubbing Obama’s nose in the poo. No need to rev up public opinion by a shoot down. The mere presence of the Russkis is getting right inside Obama’s head – and that’s where Putin is really scoring points.

    Agreed, Putin isn’t one for elaborate showboat stuff. He plays for real territory, or else he sits and waits for opportunities.

    Putin has got large slabs of his army combat experience in Ukraine ( to say nothing of the earlier conflicts in Chechnya and Georgia ). At a high cost in manpower – I am not endorsing this approach, but the hard men of the Kremlin are ruthless.

    Compared to past Russian efforts (e.g. WWI or the Winter War, or Stalingrad) it’s pretty efficient. Of course I don’t know exactly how may the Russians have been lost, but their conventional military capacity is growing in leaps and bounds so the strategy appears to be successful.

    Now the Russian Air Force is getting real hours up AND learning to fly in airspace with NATO-doctrine air forces and the Israelis and Turks too. Electronics, chatter, tactics – the Russians will be listening for everything in the region.

    Well Indian Su-30’s were beating US F-15C’s in the simulator and frankly I think the JSF is still some ways off (if ever), so picture yourself as a try-hard dictatorship which would you buy? Russia is in the game to support their asset Assad, so once a scraggy bunch of Islamists have been whacked (who cares if it was ISIS or someone else) then other governments with a similar non-Democratic outlook will be thinking, “Hmmm, I wanna get me some of those”. Can’t trade with Europe? No problemski.

  152. thefrollickingmole

    What an exciting and wonderful time to be alive. *TM

  153. teddy bear

    troy-newman-detained-after-flying-to-melbourne

    That should up the ante and kick the story on a while longer

  154. Myrddin Seren

    Winter will slow the advances of the Taliban, ISIS and al Qaeda.

    But Afghanistan shows all the signs of collapse looming:

    Shaken by Taliban Victory in Kunduz, Afghans Flee Another Provincial Capital

    In a worrisome sign, two units of the Afghan Local Police surrendered their bases just outside Pul-i-Kumri to the Taliban on Wednesday and joined the insurgents, while a third base there was overrun, said Mohammad Leqaa, a former general who commanded police forces in several provinces. Other military units in the area were also said to have fled.

    On Tuesday and Wednesday, convoys of reinforcements headed toward Kunduz were fighting pitched battles with the Taliban in two areas, said Abdul Shaker Urfani, a member of a community council in northern Baghlan.

    By his count, more than 1,000 Afghan soldiers and police officers bound for Kunduz were stuck in the province on Wednesday. “They can’t break through the Taliban resistance,” Mr. Urfani said.

    The capture of Kunduz, a city of 300,000 people, three days ago appeared to be the Taliban’s largest military victory in a war that has gone on for more than a decade. Kunduz is the first urban center the Taliban have held since 2001.

    And more. Longwarjournal tells us that all roads towards Kunduz are mined and the Taliban are resisting any ground efforts to retake the city. The Kunduz airport is surrounded and being held by US special forces fighting to keep the air bridge up and avoid a total rout.

    Afghanistan is lost – brace for another huge wave of people trying to get out.

  155. .

    I thought Goat referenced it from the Lego movie?!

  156. “Malcolm Turnbull has played down claims the Liberal Party has received “hundreds of resignations” since Tony Abbott was ousted in the leadership coup, saying the feedback he’s received is that members are “very happy with the transition”.”

    Ros, I do believe that statement by Turnbull to be Grade A rubbish.
    Is there someone in the Party who will leak the numbers? No names, just numbers.

  157. feelthebern

    he’ll divorce Iran and leave Israel alone – does anyone think he’d refuse the deal?

    Lol.
    Assad will agree & then reneg post getting what he wants.
    Still, its better than a power vacuum.

  158. Ros

    Howard Bamsey Lowy Interpreter, “Cautious changes under Turnbull are slowly emerging.” We are not being paranoid, he is dismantling.

    More from the article, quite interesting in that it conveys a different understanding of how we appear to the rest of the world. Not the embarrassment that the luvvies would have us believe. Just typical Australian character according to this academic.

    “Nevertheless, there is an underlying continuity in the perception of national interests. Abbott was widely criticised for proclaiming that coal is good, but it was the Rudd Government that endowed the Global Carbon Capture and Storage Institute in part to try to ensure a future for Australian coal exports. The simple fact is that greenhouse gas-intensive industries in Australia are relatively important to the economy. Even though the financial costs of a transition to a decarbonised economy will be small, that transition will carry many sensitivities and adjustments.

    This volatile stance on coal demonstrates what I see as the abiding characteristic of Australian multilateral diplomacy: its essential pragmatism. Australian delegates will often eschew the rhetorical and emotional approaches to issues that can be important for others. They sometimes miss the salience of symbolism. This can give Australian statements a hard edge and Australian delegations can unwittingly seem aloof and uninterested in what drives engagement for other countries. A previous Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC said he found Australian interventions ‘scary’.

    Realising this, the leader of the Australian delegation a few years ago instructed her colleagues to include an emotive element in their statements. Suddenly, surprised Australian delegates had the unaccustomed pleasure of being congratulated on their fine interventions by delegates from all groups.

    That is a question of style. On substance Australian pragmatism and analysis have delivered some thought-leadership to the negotiating process over many years. Australia advocated differentiation of national reductions targets before it was respectable within the EU. Australia insisted on provision for market mechanisms in the Kyoto Protocol against resistance from many in the EU. Add the Cartagena Dialogue, the first serious attempt to unite progressive voices across the UNFCCC membership, and the idea of schedules, which now take the form of INDCs, to the list of ideas which Australia has helped pioneer. ”

    If it were only true that small changes are all he has in mind. And the luvvies parrott his marvellous pragmatism. As I just think he is nuts I am nowhere near as confident that just continuing as Australians want is possible for him.

  159. Rabz

    What can I say to top that? Proud fiscal conservative. No carbon tax. No child will live in poverty.

    “No wombat will be denied taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgery or the right to sit as an elected representative in the nation’s legislature.”

    And yes, I think things really are becoming that preposterous.

  160. S'

    As I said a few days ago, bringing Assad into the Western camp is the biggest strategic no-brainer since Iran-Contra. If the West offered to meaningfully prop up Assad’s regime – give him what he needs to retake his country and, in return, he’ll divorce Iran and leave Israel alone – does anyone think he’d refuse the deal?

    Assad will still get billions (freed up by Obama) from Iran as well as military aid from Russia. He could easily rebuff the US for it’s inaction.

  161. Oh come on

    OCO, if you were Assad who would you trust more, Iran or the Obama ‘led’ West?

    Snoopy, definitely not a hard question to answer – in fact, it’s the Iranians who can probably trust Obama to work in their interests more than just about anyone else. Agree that there’s zero chance of Obama adopting a more pragmatic approach to addressing IS and – more importantly – drawing a solid, emphatic line under the whole stupid “Arab Spring” experiment. He won’t be in office forever, though. And blockheads like John McCain, who wouldn’t countenance a deal with Assad, are increasingly isolated within the GOP. It’s very possible that, in the not-too-distant future, the West will be led by an individual with a great deal more credibility than Obama who would make a more trustworthy partner.

  162. Nic

    I notice that Goodes won’t be doing a lap of honour at the MCG with the rest of the retiring players . No doubt it’s because he will be hooted. The media are selling it as an unselfish act yadda yadda. The AFL keep pushing things, with the no sexist jokes being the latest. It will be fun to watch when the steam finally blows, and it will.

  163. thefrollickingmole

    AFL Grand Final: West Coast premiership player Daniel Chick alleges drug culture was rife among 2006 Eagles

    Also in breaking news, fire burn…water wet..

    Chick claimed in the Herald Sun on Thursday that he and former team-mates Daniel Kerr and Ben Cousins took massive doses of asthma drug prednisone in a pattern experts describe as bizarre and inappropriate.

    He alleged in the report that a club staffer hid certain players from drug testers, that a former Eagles figure dished out sedatives in bulk to players and that the use of cocaine, ecstasy and methamphetamine were widespread in the squad.

    Chick also said some players would snort crushed Xanax and take Valium with vodka to relax on flights to and from Perth.

    Thats my cousin, Im glad to see hes finally trying to get this crap out in the open since it nearly killed him. (including having 1/2 his house burned down in an arson attack by “colorful Northbridge identities)

  164. Oh come on

    Lol.
    Assad will agree & then reneg post getting what he wants.

    Why would he do that? In the event a partnership with the West proved valuable, why walk away from it? Syria opposed us because it was aligned with the USSR. When that arrangement crumbled, it found accord with the Iranians due to the common enemy of Israel. Assad can’t afford the luxury of maintaining Israel as an arch enemy now. The timing’s perfect for common sense to prevail.

  165. Rabz

    players would snort crushed Xanax and take Valium with vodka to relax

    What, no LSD and laxatives?

  166. Tom

    As Cat tech-heads and airline investors know, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner is a game changer that uses 20% less fuel than its predecessor the 767 and can operate with virtually the same seat economics and speed as the much larger 747 because of its lightweight carbon-fibre construction.
    For example, years ago, United Airlines abandoned its LA-Melbourne 747 non-stops and last year axed its daily LAX-MEL (via SYD) because the jumbo was too big and lost money. The 787-9 has allowed UA to resume the daily LAX-MEL non-stops.

    Today, British Airways took its first 787-9 from Boeing and release this marvellous time-lapse video of its state-of-the-art high-tech construction.

  167. Oh come on

    (including having 1/2 his house burned down in an arson attack by “colorful Northbridge identities)

    The Cousins/Kerr Eagles-era boys really loved hanging out with Perth’s “controversial businessmen” (trying to remember the other euphemisms the press used to describe organised crime bosses).

  168. Ragu

    I actually love shitting on acid. You are in a small quiet room. A whole new environment called the bathroom. While you are hallucinating you have to give birth to a small piece of rubbish. I always was fond of pooing on acid.

    Frank and fearless hilarity here

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/12inva/pooping_on_lsd/

  169. C.L.

    Alex Shifler

    His mom is hot, apparently.

  170. goatjam

    Mr Paterson indicated the days of Footy Show stars making “sexist jokes” were coming to an end.

    Did this joker go to the same “how to run a media business into the ground” school as those retards at Fairfax?

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    We will legitimise a pack of hypocrites we should shun and, in joining, will put ourselves at their level.

    Sure, the Left is cheering, but check the company we’ll keep.

    Truly disgusting. Where is the MSM on this? Not in our name etc.

  172. Top Ender

    (trying to remember the other euphemisms the press used to describe organised crime bosses)

    Colourful local businessman with connections in the racing world

  173. Rabz

    Colourful local businessman with connections in the racing world

    In NSW they were simply known as “colourful racing identities”.

  174. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles is back in the box.

  175. goatjam

    Dot, I believe IT owns the patent on that Cat Saying.

    I thought Goat referenced it from the Lego movie?!

    It was me, but the Lego Movie reference was actually to Everything Is Awesome.

  176. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles appears to be in the pub over the road.

  177. incoherent rambler

    “No wombat will be denied taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgery or the right to sit as an elected representative in the nation’s legislature.”

    Wombats get it tough.
    Discrimination against hairy noses has to stop.

  178. Infidel Tiger

    Thats my cousin, Im glad to see hes finally trying to get this crap out in the open since it nearly killed him. (including having 1/2 his house burned down in an arson attack by “colorful Northbridge identities)

    Considering his role in the shenanigans at the time, it’s a sick joke he is now blaming the club.

    Have you ever noticed how many people have the rotten luck of falling in with a bad crowd?

  179. Top Ender

    Brian Parker now on the stand at TURC.

  180. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    its lightweight carbon-fibre construction.

    I think we are flying to Hawaii on a Dreamliner soon. I hope I’m wrong. Personally, I prefer my aircraft to be solid and unecological and tried and tested and not pushed by stupid unrealistic green-propelled limits.

    I am quite happy with an A380 though. My preference for a longer flight.
    The engine on that fell off early on, and they’ve fixed the problems by now.
    Only problem is a few of them are starting to get a bit old and ropey now.

  181. C.L.

    Have you ever noticed how many people have the rotten luck of falling in with a bad crowd?

    It really happened to Tony Abbott.

  182. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkle’s memory is beginning to short circuit.

  183. C.L.

    New Zealanders are wetting their Canterbury shorts about the haka again.

  184. Andreas

    TURC doesn’t have an english/moron translator for Mr Sparkles?

  185. Grigory M

    the Boeing 787 Dreamliner is a game changer that uses 20% less fuel than its predecessor the 767

    “Tom” – isn’t the Boeing 767 the predecessor to the Boeing 777 which is the predecessor to the Boeing 787?

  186. Oh come on

    Follow the money, Lizzie. How many A380s are on order vs 787s?

    Besides, I like my planes pretty. The 787 is a beautiful machine. The A380 is a hideous gargoyle of a thing.

  187. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles is being very wary, he is trying to allow himself wriggle room in case Sarah comes up with a bouncer.

  188. Geriatric Mayfly

    Danger Sparkles….”Are you sure about that?” says Sarah.

  189. thefrollickingmole

    Infidel Tiger

    Without defending his later actions he was fairly straight for the fist couple of years, and a club worth its salt would have dealt with the shithead element before it spread.

    Read what he says about why he took some of the crap he did, being able to run through brick walls and train non-stop vs being an average player.

  190. Snoopy

    So Peter Dutton is Terri Butler’s bitch.

    It’s a wonderful time to be dead. (c)

  191. Oh come on

    So hang on. You’re saying the 737 isn’t the predecessor of the 747??

    /mind blown

  192. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles “gets confused.” He is so vague today about his trips to China it could well have been Argentina he visited.

  193. rickw

    “Tom” – isn’t the Boeing 767 the predecessor to the Boeing 777 which is the predecessor to the Boeing 787?

    All very different, there’s no lineage there, although the 767ER and 787 are similar in size and concept.

    The concept of the 787 is that it allows point to point international flights and in theory can eliminate the cost and complexity of hub and spoke arrangements that are normally employed to get passengers to their final international destinations.

    The fuel efficiency improvements in the last 30 years have been very significant. In one former role we were looking at fuel consumption of a customer, you could see the volumes we were selling to them steadily declining, we asked them if we were losing some of our business with them, they responded that we had actually increased our % position. The visible trend was due purely to 747 retirement and replacement with 777ER’s.

    Off the top of my head, 747’s would often do over 5L/passenger/100km’s. The lastest aircraft are now pushing sub 3L/passenger/100km’s.

  194. Ros

    Bringing Assad into the western camp doesn’t seem like an option. Iran owns him. And if Fullilove is right the West just doesn’t have the will or the gonads. The ME is looking like it will get far worse before it gets better.

    Boyer lecture, Present at the destruction Dr Michael Fullilove

    The recent history of US policy – both its missteps and its changeability – raises questions about whether Washington will continue to act as the global hegemon. To those who relish the prospect of a more modest American presence in the world, I say: be careful what you wish for.
    Meanwhile, the rest of the West looks set to retire from the global stage – and not only because most Western countries have ageing populations. For decades, Europe has spurned power politics in favour of forming an ever more perfect, peaceful union……….

    There are exceptions to this trend, notably Japan, which is emerging from its post-war hibernation. But in general, Western countries are stepping down. By contrast, in each of the three most significant global theatres – Europe, the Middle East and Asia – strong challengers to the liberal order are stepping up.

    Russia seeks to establish a sphere of influence in its corner of Europe. Mr Putin is motivated by a desire for regime continuity and dubious historical grievances. His tactics include subversion, propaganda and, disturbingly, the acquisition of territory by force. Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 breached the central tenet of the state system. When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, it was promptly ejected. Today, regrettably, the Russian flag still flies over Simferopol.

    Meanwhile Iran is taking advantage of the turmoil in the Middle East to extend its power in the Arab world. The Islamic Republic now wields influence in four Arab capitals: Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut and Sana’a. It continues to deny Israel’s right to exist. The nuclear deal is probably the best option for curbing Tehran’s nuclear program. But if Iran can make this much trouble when it is tied down by Western sanctions, how will it behave when the sanctions fall away?

    There is a third power, of course, that is challenging the existing order. But China’s challenge is unlike the others. I will return to it presently.

    The differences between these three countries – Russia, Iran and China – are as great as their similarities. None of them hopes to displace the United States as the world’s leading power. Their advantage lies in the fact that they can concentrate their forces regionally while Washington must disperse its forces globally.

    The West’s drooping confidence and the rise of great-power challengers make it harder for global institutions to address global problems.”

    As wealth and power shifts to the East, Australia finds itself in a new and precarious position.

  195. rickw

    Besides, I like my planes pretty. The 787 is a beautiful machine. The A380 is a hideous gargoyle of a thing.

    Yeah, but standing on the ground next to an A380’s main gear is something else!

  196. Geriatric Mayfly

    “I’m not sure, I can’t recall, I wouldn’t know, Probably, It could have been, I might have.” Sparkles is not being very co-operative today.

  197. Andreas

    He is so vague today about his trips to China it could well have been Argentina he visited.

    He was very certain his wife has never accompanied him, wonder why he remembers that…

  198. Geriatric Mayfly

    Andreas, I thought exactly the same, but was too polite to mention Rubbee Tuggee Island.

  199. Tel

    I think we are flying to Hawaii on a Dreamliner soon. I hope I’m wrong. Personally, I prefer my aircraft to be solid and unecological and tried and tested and not pushed by stupid unrealistic green-propelled limits.

    Don’t worry so much, they cheat the tests, so it’s all good.

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    What, no LSD and laxatives?

    Ah LSD.
    So many memories…

  201. Libertarian Merkel regime throwing Germans out of their homes.

    “Our backs are to the wall,” Claudia Geiselbrecht, a local councillor, told Badische Zeitung, a local newspaper.

    No Claudia. Your backs were to the wall in ’45.
    Today your womens backs are on the ground, and your mens knees likewise.

    I cannot believe that Germany has birthed so many cowards.

  202. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles beating around the bush but wary of treading on snakes. Went to China for a three day holiday, ’cause he likes the food, and it’s a great place.

  203. With uterine implants in the news today, how long before the trans alphabet people demand that as a fundamental human right ?

    Stephen of Glasshouse, the suicide rate amongst gender reassignment patients is, IIRC, about 100 times the normal after ten years. But they keep on with their demands of ‘more’ to help buttress their fragile egos.
    I wonder if the Alphabetans will wake up to this in time?

  204. Anne

    Have you got the salute right yet Anne? Wooden heels yet?

    Geez Dot, if you’re going to attack me, would you please try to be consistent.

    I’m either an Anarchist or a Totalitarian.

    Pick one.

  205. Mark from Melbourne

    Sparkles really being made to look an idiot about these Chinese trips.

    He paid for all of them, except for those he didn’t. Of course, for those, he reimbursed the plasterboard company. Always in cash, of course.

    Never travelled Business except when he did. he was – get the – downgraded from Business Class to Economy on the day! Happens all the time.

    Mind you, making Sparkles look an idiot is now kinda Sarah’s special subject… and probably not setting the bar that high.

  206. jupes

    Thats my cousin, Im glad to see hes finally trying to get this crap out in the open

    Well I aren’t.

    What’s his motive for bringing that shit up this week of all weeks?

    What an arsehole.

  207. thefrollickingmole

    Reading “the camp of the saints” (at last), page 102, guess which country is called racist and snubbed because they issue a communique restating it will not allow its immigration act to be bypassed?

    To be met with vain moral posturing by the European frightbats?

    Australia.

  208. Tom

    Breaking in The Australian (Pravda edition):

    Leaders’ ‘outstanding’ meeting with PM

    To mark the occasion, celebratory government recording released for broadcast on state media.

  209. Bruce of Newcastle

    the suicide rate amongst gender reassignment patients is, IIRC, about 100 times the normal after ten years
    I wonder if the Alphabetans will wake up to this in time?

    No, but they’ll probably offer them free euthanasia.

  210. Oh come on

    Bringing Assad into the western camp doesn’t seem like an option.

    It’s not something that could happen overnight. But it could happen with the right leadership in the Oval Office. I wonder if, in the mid 1970s, observers thought there was even a slight chance that Egypt and Israel would sign a peace treaty, or that Egypt could be lured out of the Soviet orbit.

    Fullilove’s lecture is a large dollop of conventional wisdom. No original analysis to be found. There are dozens of bloggers with more sophisticated insights into the matters he discusses.

  211. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles “The Accidental Tourist.” What a load of piffle he is spouting today. On the three day holiday, he spent most of the time whizzing between cities, and yet it was a recreational vacation from the outset.

  212. Mark from Melbourne

    Question is, GM, why on Earth did that trip take place?

    Clearly – as you point out – not recreational, so why?

  213. jupes

    The sane INSANE nations should band together, ignore Assad and Turkey, give the enlightened FSA elements and Kurds exile and have at ISIS, and allow Israel to hit Hezbollah.

    FIFY Dot.

    If you want to live with Muslims go over there and live with them. Don’t invite the fuckers here.

  214. thefrollickingmole

    What’s his motive for bringing that shit up this week of all weeks?

    When would you prefer it brought up, the off season?
    The club have a premiership based on the wonders of pharmacology as much as talent.
    The best the AFL and club could manage in response was to ask people to keep it hidden a little better and cover it up.
    It then ran with the bullshit “darkest day in sport” as a political stunt.

    Pardon me for not being overly sensitive to the feelings of the AFL cartel.

  215. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thats my cousin, Im glad to see hes finally trying to get this crap out in the open.

    The moral of this story is pay in cash, and don’t put stuff on tick.

  216. goatjam

    Personally, I prefer my aircraft to be solid and unecological

    If it makes you feel any better the Dreamliner is made from da ebil carbon.

  217. goatjam

    Expletive laden phone tap being played for Sparkles.

  218. Geriatric Mayfly

    Intercept coming up. Watch out Sparkles.

  219. Infidel Tiger

    The IMF has declared the Australian economy to be in trouble.

    It’s prescription? Increased taxes, lower interest rates and more spending.

    I shit you not.

  220. Geriatric Mayfly

    No idea MoM. Something shonky no doubt. Maybe Sarah is working up to it.

  221. jupes

    When would you prefer it brought up, the off season?

    Yes if he had to. He’s had ten years to bring it up but waits until West Coast are in another GF. What a vindictive prick.

    The club have a premiership based on the wonders of pharmacology as much as talent.

    So an aggrieved arsehole would have us believe.

    The best the AFL and club could manage in response was to ask people to keep it hidden a little better and cover it up.

    So an aggrieved arsehole would have us believe.

    It then ran with the bullshit “darkest day in sport” as a political stunt.

    Well yes it was a political stunt, but had nothing whatsoever to do with West Coast in 2006.

  222. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Absolutely not,” is a common refrain from Sparkles, whenever he is confronted with his own mischief.

  223. A Lurker

    Dot would be well advised to remember this saying.

  224. goatjam

    The IMF has declared the Australian economy to be in trouble.

    It’s prescription? Increased taxes, lower interest rates and more spending.

    Well, to be fair, those cretins would prescribe exactly same thing even if the economy were booming.

  225. thefrollickingmole

    Jupes, if you seriously dont believe the Eagles was winning on the back of a substantial chemical enhancement program?

    De-Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

  226. goatjam

    That Chinese guy who required the interpreter earlier speaks english better than most Aussies do. Is demanding an interpreter for no good reason grounds for contempt?

  227. Oh come on

    If you knew the nature of the company the Cousins-era Eagles players liked to keep (and vice-versa), you’d be a fool if you didn’t realise the Eagles boys liked to party. I lived in and around Subiaco in the early-mid 2000s. Was unremarkable to see high profile organised crime figures, bikie bosses etc hobnobbing with Eagles players in Rokeby Road’s restaurants and night spots.

  228. thefrollickingmole

    Lts see what happened to the last drug allegations at the eagles.

    At least 10 Eagles were using drugs, Cox reveals

    RETIRED West Coast champion Dean Cox suspects at least 10 Eagles players experimented with drugs during the club’s infamous fall from grace last decade.

    Although much of the focus of West Coast’s off-field shenanigans during 2006-07 focused on Ben Cousins’ drug addiction, Cox said the issue stemmed far deeper than just one player.

    Cox revealed the off-field dramas reached such a climax that it forced then-coach John Worsfold to call each player into his office to ask them directly whether they were either using or had previously experimented with drugs.

    And somehow the story hardly made a ripple.

  229. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles is a bit down on rorts particularly if concocted by builders. At least he can recognise a rort when he sees one.

  230. Oh come on

    Jupes, if you seriously dont believe the Eagles was winning on the back of a substantial chemical enhancement program?

    I’d say the drug use was more about recreation than performance-enhancement, Mole.

  231. Ragu

    I would have thought Chris Mainwaring’s death would have caused a riot

  232. Fisky

    Mr Turnbull again promoted his “agile” style of government but promised wide consultation with no policy haste.

    “I think you know I’m not somebody who drags his feet. And I’m an activist,” he said. “I’m a thoughtful and considered activist. I’m expeditious but I’m not rash.

    “Orderly, thoughtful, consultative process to come up with the right answers.”

    Pass the bucket.

  233. thefrollickingmole

    Oh come on

    How hard do you think you can train with a bit of speed to take the edge off, plus a few other enhancers to push a little harder for longer.

    Ragu
    Chickie has a world of guilt, hes supposed to have provided the drugs that killed his own brother at a family BBQ.

  234. Rudiau

    It might sound like ridiculous gibberish, but …..

    Russia’s imminent solution of Syria’s problems?

    The U.N. General Assembly has listened to many talks. Obama wants to remove Assad because that leader has already been labeled as politically incorrect in the U.S.; Putin wants to keep him because he’s the head of the only significant force in Syria that has a chance to defeat the extremists. You may see a difference between a rational politician and a politician with hay filling his skull.

    I do believe that it must be an easy, straightforward task for a power to destroy ISIS. The U.S. failures in doing so indicate that Obama’s White House doesn’t actually want to do so.

    Both Assad’s government and Syria’s “moderate” opposition seem to agree to sign a peace treaty in Prague, in a couple of months. Zeman argues that if ISIS or a similar group should be a part of the agreement, he would veto it.

    Failed states proliferate and so do assassinations, cruelties, destruction of heritage such as one in Palmyra, and so on.

    A problem is that some people, including powerful ones (and not just complete nuts on the fringe such as George Soros), actually like the Islamization of Europe.

    Another example of such a “conspiracy theory” is that the EU is a project that wants to end democracy on the European continent. To a certain extent, this proposition is self-evidently true.

    The European Commission isn’t interested in consequences and it doesn’t care about the political costs of its acts.

    Wow. I think it is not only the Euroskeptics who were left speechless for a while.

  235. A Lurker

    Pass the bucket.

    I’ll take it next.
    Btw, there were six ‘I’ and I’m’ words in that short paragraph.
    Narcissistic overload.

  236. Oh come on

    RETIRED West Coast champion Dean Cox suspects at least 10 Eagles players experimented with drugs during the club’s infamous fall from grace last decade.

    “Experimented with drugs”? Makes it sound like they had a cheeky puff of a spliff once or twice. Mate, those blokes were routinely off their faces on god-knows-what out of season. In season, I imagine they would have had to be more cautious. It’s a stretch to say they won the 2006 flag as a result of a deliberate doping program. Some players acting independently, sure. But that’s not the same thing.

  237. Geriatric Mayfly

    I can feel a song coming on. Elvis is very restless today. He has changed seats three times, and is wandering around.

  238. thefrollickingmole

    It’s a stretch to say they won the 2006 flag as a result of a deliberate doping program.

    Have a look (if your google skills are any good, mine arent up to the job) at the difference in the physiques of the near wooden spoon year, followed immediately by the premiership year.

    If you have a hose that mush elephant juice it would grow a trunk.

  239. jupes

    The Eagles said they were “extremely disappointed by the content, timing and publication of some unsubstantiated claims”.

    “The club and its medical staff are deeply offended by these allegations and will discuss internally an appropriate course of action,” West Coast said in a statement.

    “When the club faced some challenges with its playing group a decade ago, it took steps to address those issues.

    “It voluntarily undertook its own investigation, the AFL also initiated an independent investigation (by Victorian Supreme Court Judge Bill Gillard) and neither revealed the issues and allegations raised by Daniel in this story, all of which are strongly refuted.

    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-01/eagles-upset-by-chick-claims

  240. Oh come on

    How hard do you think you can train with a bit of speed to take the edge off, plus a few other enhancers to push a little harder for longer.

    Seems unlikely. How would they have got around the compulsory drug testing?

    I think it’s pretty much beyond question that a large number of Eagles of that era used drugs in a recreational capacity. To enhance performance – well, that seems to me to be a lot less likely.

  241. Oh come on

    If you have a hose that mush elephant juice it would grow a trunk.

    What are you suggesting they were taking?

  242. goatjam

    It must be difficult for a builder to come over from a free market country like China to try and build stuff in a communist shit hole like Austraya.

  243. Rudiau

    Der Neue Bunker
    Question: Does German Chancellor Angela Merkel seem ever so slightly unwell?
    I don’t mean physically; it just seems like there’s something a bit off, like she’s losing her grip.

    Did Merkel just “read out Germany’s suicide note”?

    h/t EBD

    Don Morris | October 1, 2015 1:08 AM | Reply
    Merkel sounds as confused as Justin Trudeau,and completely defeated. Ezra’s right, she has “German guilt” over WW2, and ironically, she wants to replace the Jews they slaughtered with Muslims.
    I believe Angela Merkel has gone insane and should be removed from office.

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