Wednesday Forum: September 30, 2015

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  1. rickw

    The AFL keep pushing things, with the no sexist jokes being the latest.

    Mate asked me if I would be watching the Grand Final this weekend. “Nope, don’t want anything to do with the GAyFL.

  2. goatjam

    Is there some sort of football match on this weekend?

  3. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sparkles offers to take Sarah on a tour of building sites. I note she is smitten by his advances.

  4. Geriatric Mayfly

    Absolutely not, absolutely not, says a ‘frustrated’ Sparkles twice over.

  5. goatjam

    They have done wonders with the TURC audio. I just heard somebody just whisper “oh you bastard” while they were fiddling with manilla folders

  6. thefrollickingmole

    Oh come on
    The info I have is from the source being dismissed, Chickie. Steroids and illicit and legal recovery type drugs.

    Rhys-Jones said performance-enhancing drugs were the preserve of other teams. “There was no doubt the use of anabolic steroids was rife in the 1980s,” he wrote.

    “There were suspicions about Fitzroy in the early 1980s with some of their blokes looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Later on, there were the rumours about the West Coast Eagles who became much quicker and stronger in an incredibly short period.”

    Last night, Rhys-Jones said the comments were his opinion. “There was never any substantial proof,” he said. “I have only said there were rumours and they were widespread among the football fraternity . . . It was rife in elite sport through the late 1970s and early 1980s. If we think that there wasn’t any illegal use over those years we have really got our heads in the sand.”

    Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett said he was tired of such allegations. “It is not true and never was true,” he said. “Hard work is a very good substitute. Our players had never previously done weights programs and that is why they improved so dramatically.”

    An AFL investigation
    TOP…MEN….

    Charles, who tested positive to an anabolic steroid in the AFL’s first major drug scandal claims there was a league cover-up and that senior AFL officials glossed over information he supplied.

    Charles took the banned drug, boldenone, six times over four weeks while injured in the 1997 pre-season.

    He said he gave the AFL information about how he procured the drug, but it chose not to act.

    The AFL last night said it was unaware of the claim.

    Charles, in his first tell-all interview since his suspension, also claims he could have produced a list of footballers he believed were taking steroids at the time.

    “You ask how I got them? I told the AFL, and I was completely honest with them and told them exactly where I got them,” he said.

    “And when I told them, they said: ‘OK, we’ll pretend we didn’t hear that’.”

    He refused to reveal it to the Herald Sun.

    “Absolutely not. It was a risk even telling the AFL,” he said.

    Asked if he believed there had been a cover-up, Charles said: “It’s so controversial and it would’ve opened a can of worms. No one wanted to go down that path … ”

  7. Fisky

    Well done Daniel Chick for courageously blowing the whistle on the Eagles’ systematic drug cheating in a timely fashion. The Eagles must be investigated and the entire team interrogated and frisked as they run out onto the ground on Saturday, otherwise the league would be neglectful, possibly allowing the Eagles to snatch an ill-gotten premiership away from the rightful victors.

    Ideally, no team meetings or collaborations of any kind must be allowed before the Eagles run out onto the ground, otherwise we might be enabling them to commit conspiracy.

  8. Anne, perhaps Hillary was talking about victim victims.
    Warning: Not gory, but real photos. Of Real victims.

  9. Geriatric Mayfly

    CMFEU Funny Money now under scrutiny. Sparkles pulls the “Safety” handle on cue. Safety for the wukkas is a convenient black hole into which money can be poured and hidden.

  10. johanna

    I am not trying to ‘rub anyones noses’ in anything; just sharing my days as others share theirs. I’ve never been in the army, and I’ve never worked in higher echelons of the public service (but been employed around universities a bit), and I’ve no understanding of guns and bullet calibers, and RSJ tolerances are beyond me, let alone skips, and Thermomixes terrify me; so what is a girl to do? I refuse to mummy blog but Da Hairy Ape is fair game for those how was your day moments. I hope I contribute in other ways too.

    Cut the disingenious crap, Lizzie. If you were just “sharing your days” as if you were like any other person, you would be on Mamma Mia. As in “today, the baby threw up over my clothes just as we were going out for dinner for the first time in over a year.”

    As I have said before, I admire your contributions on topics other than your not very interesting version of the social pages. Telling us all (in embarrassing detail) about the wonderfulness of being a trophy wife – yuk.

    “You’re the best fing dat ever happened to me, Lizzie” he whispers, which I made up, but oh, please. It’s going to send me into a diabetic coma if it gets any more sugary.

    The most basic social etiquette involves not big-noting yourself because of good luck. And, the fact that you were fortunate enough to be born good-looking and bright is good luck.

    I know that you help out members of your family who are not so fortunate, but what decent person doesn’t? It’s hardly a badge of honour, just a basic requirement. No doubt plenty of Cats (including me) do the same.

  11. goatjam

    You’d think that the second most important qualification* for being a union secretary is to know how to pronounce the word secretary correctly.

    * The first being possession of a shockingly poor memory.

  12. Oh come on

    The info I have is from the source being dismissed, Chickie. Steroids and illicit and legal recovery type drugs.

    Fair enough.

  13. thefrollickingmole

    Fisky

    Or we could return to the good old days of teams playing “clean” operating at a massive disadvantage.

    I blame the AFL moving to a Thursday to Monday format with games scattered all through the week giving teams varied recovery periods.

    Anyone trying to claim the Eagles were ‘clean” back then is not going against just rumor, but multiple statements from people actually in the team.

    Still we can trust the AFL to investigate itself…

  14. goatjam

    Another good bloke who simply can’t wait to hand thousands of dollars over to the top chaps at the CFMEU

  15. Infidel Tiger

    Perhaps we can now lift the lid on the Hawks drug culture and why a certain full forward had to leave them.

    Also stay tuned for expose on the 1991 Hawks team who racially abused aboriginal players as part of their game plan.

  16. Geriatric Mayfly

    A thirty thousand dollar kick-back has stopped cranes catching fire and crashing into one another, and dropping their loads.

  17. Oh come on

    The title of this article seems an effective way to sell capitalism to Gen-Y:

    The Free Market: It’s Like Uber, But for Everything

    (Via Insty)

  18. Woolfe VRWC [email protected]
    I really hope that the @Aus_AirForce have stopped flying missions over Syria. Would hate for there to be a misunderstanding. Like in Ukraine

    Depends what the ROE are. If they are “Launch on warning” i.e. threat receiver lights up, then fair enough. TWR is equivalent to laser dotting a player. (Russia will always be a threat to people it can bully.)
    If not, bring them back. The game isn’t worth the candle.

  19. Rabz

    You’d think that the second most important qualification* for being a union secretary is to know how to pronounce the word secretary correctly.

    Goaters – not being privy to the audio, is “seckerterry” close to the correct pronunciation?

  20. JC

    Johanna

    For their sake, I hope none of your relatives are also your neighbours.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone trying to claim the Eagles were ‘clean” back then is not going against just rumor, but multiple statements from people actually in the team.

    No one denies that a core group at the club was using drugs. It has been publicly acknowledge by the club and players. Bi fucking deal. Most people their age are using drugs.

    The only one of them who was busted for performance enhancing drugs was Daniel Chick, which in the whacko world he inhabits, he claims was for depression.

    Like most losers, the habit he’ll never quit is blaming others and trying to bring other people into his web of misery.

  22. Fisky

    Perhaps we can now lift the lid on the Hawks drug culture and why a certain full forward had to leave them.

    We could certainly do that, but no real allegations are on the table and it would be unwise to rush anything this late in the week.

  23. goatjam

    Goaters – not being privy to the audio, is “seckerterry” close to the correct pronunciation?

    Bullseye Rabz

  24. Woolfe

    Somehow Winston I don’t think the Russians play by the rules, and i hate to say it but Abbott’s relationship with Russia probably did not help. Bring them back.

  25. Grigory M

    If you were just “sharing your days” as if you were like any other person, you would be on Mamma Mia.

    Huh? – This is not Mammamia? 😯

  26. Woolfe

    Anyway there is a massive game on this weekend when the Mighty Wobbilies take on the wounded England at the Rugby World Cup (for all kick and catch fans world does not = Melbourne).

    This is a must win for the host nation and will be a fantastic, physical match.

  27. Uh oh

    Fisky
    #1814497, posted on October 1, 2015 at 3:28 pm
    Mr Turnbull again promoted his “agile” style of government but promised wide consultation with no policy haste.

    ……. I’m expeditious but I’m not rash.

    I suspect that Godwin Grech would disagree.

  28. thefrollickingmole

    On the AFL, Chickie is massively bitter that he was thrown to the wolves once his career ended. In the AFLs defense he had made his position untenable by his actions.

    He spent years getting himself ‘straight”, its only in the last 3 years his brain would be anything like together enough to be doing this, he was a fucked unit. His father told me he was planning to go public about 8 months ago, but I thought that was just bullcrap.

    Whats a similarity between Tasmania and coke?
    They both fuck cousins

    What did Cousins do after West Coast warned him to stay away from drugs?
    He bought a 15 inch straw

    Why did West Coast players snort artificial sweetner?
    They thought it was diet coke

    What are the first five words a West Coast player in a three piece tailored suit hears?
    “Will the defendant please rise”

    Why did West Coast put its players on meth?
    To get them excited about there only being one sleep till the Grand Final.

  29. Grigory M

    “You’re the best fing dat ever happened to me, Lizzie” he whispers

    Hey – c’mon – get wid da vibe:

    “Yez ‘r da best t’ing dat ever happened ta me, Lizzie.” he murmurs, sensuously, as I melt willingly into his strong hairy arms, my heart aflutter as the opening strains of Ravel’s Bolero play in the background.

    Dere yez go – dat’s better. 😉

  30. Slayer of Memes

    I note that mOnty hasn’t been posting recently.

    Did he manage to get banned for trolling again?

  31. .

    jupes
    #1814474, posted on October 1, 2015 at 3:08 pm
    The sane INSANE nations should band together, ignore Assad and Turkey, give the enlightened FSA elements and Kurds exile and have at ISIS, and allow Israel to hit Hezbollah.

    FIFY Dot.

    If you want to live with Muslims go over there and live with them. Don’t invite the fuckers here.

    Hmmyes you Turkey, did you notice Australia wasn’t mentioned?

  32. .

    If you want to live with Muslims go over there and live with them. Don’t invite the fuckers here.

    You do realise there are about 400,000 Muslims in Australia – do you refuse to live in areas where there are Muslims?

  33. .

    Anne
    #1814461, posted on October 1, 2015 at 2:59 pm
    Have you got the salute right yet Anne? Wooden heels yet?

    Geez Dot, if you’re going to attack me, would you please try to be consistent.

    I’m either an Anarchist or a Totalitarian.

    Pick one.

    You linked to Golden Dawn and won’t apologise, doubling down on the unrelated issues of Agenda 21 and Muslim immigration. You’re either a child mentally or a chucklehead who googles everything they post and you didn’t bother to read the link.

  34. Ros

    Grigory do you have an alter ego as a Mills and Boon writer. If not I reckon you show real promise.

    I am not sneering at Mills and Boon, as a crime addict I wouldn’t dare.

  35. Mark from Melbourne

    Have a look (if your google skills are any good, mine arent up to the job) at the difference in the physiques of the near wooden spoon year, followed immediately by the premiership year.

    Frolicker, I suspect you are getting the early 90s confused with the mid-2000s.

    The Eagles team of 1990 became noticelably bigger and stronger by 1991. And I mean noticeably. So much so that I was goaded into fronting the (doctor) parent of one of the star players at a dinner about same. I feel embarrassed to this day that (a) I was stupid enough to do so (most impolite) and (b) that he just smiled and turned away.

  36. incoherent rambler

    Somehow Winston I don’t think the Russians play by the rules

    They play by the rules. I have played chess against a lot of Russians. They all had a ruthless endgame.

  37. Ros

    There were 2 Muslims amongst the convicts in the first fleet.

  38. incoherent rambler

    do you refuse to live in areas where there are Muslims?

    Quite so.

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    The most basic social etiquette involves not big-noting yourself because of good luck. And, the fact that you were fortunate enough to be born good-looking and bright is good luck.

    Ladies please.
    The last time I saw this behavior was in a gay club watching two lesbians wrestling in a mud pit.
    And neither of them were good looking.
    Nice tats though.

  40. Slayer of Memes

    ‘Vegemite is racist because it’s black‘

    From the same girl who claims she is going to sue a man for rape after he touched her… while saving her from drowning.

    (Hint: It’s actually all a parody…)

  41. Stimpson J. Cat

    Bi fucking deal.

    Yes, a few of them were.
    Ssshhh.

  42. calli

    And today’s word is:

    Agile!

  43. Rudiau

    Nice tats though.

    First time I’ve seen them spelled that way.

  44. calli

    Spelt is a grain.

    Hope that helps.

  45. Rudiau

    Yesterdays parody is todays reality.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat

    First time I’ve seen them spelled that way.

    Fairly certain I would have used the word “pendulous”.

  47. Rudiau

    Spelt is a grain.

    Hope that helps.

    Ta, it just didn’t look or sound right. Should have googled.

  48. calli

    It’s nice to see Prez Leatherjacket drop three word slogans for one word bullshit.

    If only he could be so economical when it comes to OPM.

  49. Rudiau

    “pendulous”.

    Yep, that woold have nailed them.

  50. BrettW

    Nice to see the Unions invited to Turnbulls talk fest today but no representative of small business. Pretty sure there are more Australians working in small business than there are in Unions and that they create more jobs than the ACTU.

    In fact isn’t the ACTU campaigning against the FTA when most others support it.

    Well done Turnbull for putting off side another major group of likely Liberal voters.

    Turnbull, if you want to score some votes extend the TURC as only just scratching the surface.

  51. Andreas

    spelled or spelt?

    Either is correct, spelt is the British variant (same with learned/learnt, etc).

  52. calli

    Nice to see the Unions invited to Turnbulls talk fest today but no representative of small business.

    Probably were invited but were too busy earning tax.

  53. JMH

    So ex PM Tones is pleading for the conservative base not to abandon the Liberal Party. Too late and too bad, ex PM Abbott. We readily detected the stench of socialism wafting up around Lord Turncoat of Wentworth and will act accordingly when the time comes. Me? The Libs will be placed just above Greenfilth and Labor/Union filth on both ballot papers.

    A prediction: The Turncoat Socialist government will run with an ETS at the next election, which would, of course, be avidly supported by the Greentards and Leftards in the Senate.

    What will the Nationals do? Refuse to form a coalition on those grounds? And there is bound to be more socialist stuff to hit the low info voters from this fucking fucktard, Turncoat.

    What are the Nats going to do? Capitulate to keep a hold on power or do the right thing and refuse to form a government.

  54. Baldrick

    spelled or spelt?

    It can be either or but for a definitive answer we need to hear from Deadman.

  55. calli

    Beat me to it, Balders. 😀

  56. Grigory M

    Ros – t’anks for dat. I t’ink dat might have been my magnum opus, right dere.

    Disclosure: I have never read a Mills & Boone novel – hard to believe, hey. 😉

  57. calli

    Chuckle, chuckle…snort…

    Feminism, Israeli style.

    Liquids only for a week for this rowdy dropkick. H/t Blair

  58. Peter

    Well Indian Su-30?s were beating US F-15C’s in the simulator

    But not in tbe real world.

    Simulations and exercises are for training people to work together and go through their tactics…… not so that they “die” without knowing exactly what they did wrong. (Because the system that defeated them is classified).

    Simulations prove almost nothing about the aircraft and combat systems in question, because the last thing that either side is going to do is to reveal the (heavily classified) ultimate capabilities of their technology in what is an insecure environment. Every power would like to know exactly what they have to do to defeat an enemy’s systems, while having the enemy ignorant so that they come into your kill zone confident and blind.

    It’s the same with spurious claims about who can out-turn everybody else. If it gets close enough for a dogfight, you have already stuffed-up badly.

  59. Rudiau

    Why?
    Because of an almost automatic obeisance to a new and terrible earth goddess called Gaia.


    Don’t they know how many of our own poor can no longer afford to heat their homes? Don’t they know how many millions die in the developing world from malaria because we won’t allow them access to DDT? Don’t they know that a million children a year die or are simply blinded for life by withholding the distribution golden rice? Don’t they know how many lives could be saved by supplying the poor with drought and disease resistant GM seeds? Don’t they know that switching from growing food staples to growing biofuel crops for cars only the rich can afford has more than doubled prices of basic foods? Don’t they know about the people killed in the food riots? Do they actually know anything? Do they care anyway?

    You might think those questions were addressed at the real climate fanatics, those who’re absolutely determined to save the Earth even if that means over the megadeath, rigour-mortised and stacked-high burning corpses of humanity, but you’d be wrong because as must be obvious by now, those zealots simply don’t care about such collateral damage. After all, a smaller, more “sustainable” number of people on the Earth is one of their oft expressed aspirations. Humanity is a plague on the Earth, to quote David Attenborough.

    Tell me why.

  60. .

    Well Indian Su-30?s were beating US F-15C’s in the simulator

    Nothing beats an F-15 other than the F-22. That is reality.

  61. .

    Lysander
    #1814613, posted on October 1, 2015 at 5:12 pm
    LDP won less than 1% of vote in Canning?

    Yep, that happens when you don’t have effective brand promotion.

    “It’s because da SSM and da preferences to da ALP”

    Which most people here lately support the latter!

  62. rickw

    do you refuse to live in areas where there are Muslims

    I started living in an area where there are Muslims because it was price advantageous, now I do it because I want to see their attitudes and actions first hand.

  63. Grigory M

    “It’s because da SSM and da preferences to da ALP”

    Even Dot is doing it. It must be “Talk Like a Hairy Ape” Day. 🙂

  64. Grigory M

    Oops – dat would be “Talk Like Da Hairy Irish Ape” Day. :mrgreen:

  65. Baldrick

    Feminism, Israeli style.

    Hahahaha, not sure if that’s politically correct with Sharia law.

  66. rickw

    It must be difficult for a builder to come over from a free market country like China to try and build stuff in a communist shit hole like Austraya.

    There are plenty of broke start-up builders in Austraya to prove this. There are also plenty of Strayan Builders who steer clear of the southern states, cause that’s the most communist end of the shit pile.

  67. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Business is part of the problem now.

    Has been for quite a while. Got bad when hotels started leaving you with damp towels to save the planet, and business hasn’t taken a step backward since then. Now business is telling us marriage is two men and a poodle or two girls sharing a bed, one of whom is doing man-stuff and won’t get up in the night for the poor tired mother (seen that ad? weird or what?).

  68. .

    Has been for quite a while. Got bad when hotels started leaving you with damp towels to save the planet, and business hasn’t taken a step backward since then.

    Fucking disgusting. Why not damp bedsheets!

  69. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yep, that happens when you don’t have effective brand promotion.

    Also when you try to sit between two stools.

    At this juncture, both types of stool would be an accurate interpretation of my remark..

  70. thefrollickingmole

    Hmm I may have killed a new lefty meme dead on arrival over at the gruinaid.

    The latest hyperventilation subject is crims awaiting deportation being kept in the same centers as failed asylum seekers. Being reported as if its “NEW, SHOCKING OUTRAGE!!!”.
    Asylum seekers say they are under attack as violence erupts in detention centres
    Tension between asylum seekers and detainees awaiting deportation said to be at breaking point in centres on Christmas Island and at Yongah Hill in Western Australia

    Comments were going along swimmingly until I posted this.

    molemen Trekchat 12m ago

    0
    1
    Heres one from 1992.

    The person making the statement is Gerry Hand of the ALP minister during the Keating years. (lots more at the link above.

    Deportation action
    23. It is the appropriate State authorities (or in the case of Commonwealth prisoners, the
    Governor- General) to decide such questions as the conditions under which a prisoner is
    to serve a sentence, the extent of remission of any part of a sentence or the release of a
    potential deportee on licence or on parole for the purpose of deportation.
    24. Whenever possible, departure from Australia will be arranged to coincide with a
    deportee’s release from prison. A deportee may be held in custody pursuant to the
    Migration Act pending finalisation of the deportation arrangements

    Gone a bit quiet since then.

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Oops – dat would be “Talk Like Da Hairy Irish Ape” Day. :mrgreen:

    Every day is groundhog day in that regard Chez Ape, aka Villa Chaos. 🙂
    The plumbers have gone home. Hooray. Relax time. I can take my bra off.
    The Kittehs will know what I mean; they are not always relaxing garments.

  72. Rudiau

    A comment on my earlier post re Fuehrer Merkel and her Syrian guests.

    As insane and destructive as this Arab invasion invitation is, I don’t believe it is done out of a sense of “German guilt”, although that is a convenient and plausible excuse nor do I believe Merkel to be insane although what she is doing is clearly insane. Merkel and other “European leaders” from France, Sweden, the UK etc. know exactly what they’re doing. They are deliberately, willfully, maliciously and without permission destroying their own nations identity and cultural estrangement through invasion and inevitable bankruptcy. The mental illness manifests itself in the insidious doctrine of “political correctness” a command and control technique imposed at least a decade earlier, a thought weapon used primarily to shut citizens up while pretending to have some moral high ground. Merkel’s obtuse detachment sounds insane because what she’s doing is insane, she knows it, and unfortunately it is deliberate.

  73. .

    If the reason why the LDP doesn’t get 20%+ of the vote is because people are begging for a conservative-libertarian party to vote for, please go out and form it.

    It won’t be exactly what I want but it will be good enough and if it comes to power I will be left alone and can ignore politics from there on in and live a happy life.

    It just blows my mind people focus on 9% of our policies but accept more than 50% of the policies of larger parties they disagree with.

    The most interesting thing from Canning was the total amount of those who did not vote, informal votes and third party votes excluding the Greens.

    Polling Places Returned: 56 of 56

    Enrolment: 112,809 Turnout: 79.31%

    Informal 5,062 5.66%

    33.89% did not turn up, voted informal or voted for non Greens third parties.

    Only 66.11% voted for GRN, ALP and LNP.

    The people are pissed off. There is a definitely an opportunity for the LDP, FFP, ALA and “AUS-IP”.

    The problem would seriously be brand promotion – the idea that people didn’t vote for the LDP because they agree entirely with your criticism of the party seems a tad myopic. What is more likely? Brand recognition or non compliance with your EXACT point of view?

  74. Mike of Marion

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
    #1814635, posted on October 1, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    Ah, same as my wife – large boobies dragging on the back and shoulders

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Damp towels. That was at first. The backlash was solid so now they say leave them on the floor if you want them replaced, hang them up if you don’t. But Da Hairy Ape is so fastidious and neat he always hangs his up. Then I have to ring housekeeping to get some fresh ones for him if I fail to notice this, because men are hairy and towels get wet in the drying process for them.
    I always get the sheets changed too. Fresh crisp sheets are such a luxury.

    I am a motelier’s nightmare. Sorry for that, Mote. Deprived childhood and all that. Sheets were rare.
    HIA is amazed at how enthused I get by even the simplest of accommodation services.
    I will not let any greenie do me out of any of it.

  76. calli

    Lizzie, I’ve seen that ad a couple of times. Straight over my head until the penny dropped.

    One less product to tempt me. Prefer Lancôme anyway.

  77. Yep, that happens when you don’t have effective brand promotion.

    Dot, that is what Labour and the Greens keep saying about their failure to get into power. They are making themselves wilfully blind to the fact that no-one likes LDP ‘Dog Turd Yoghurt’.

  78. calli

    Hmm I may have killed a new lefty meme dead on arrival over at the gruinaid.

    Mole is…Agile!

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    Brand recognition or non compliance with your EXACT point of view?

    That’s what shop owners say just before the liquidators arrive.

    In Canning the LDP came stone motherless last.

  80. thefrollickingmole

    calli

    60 comments in the first few minutes…

    About 3 since that was posted…

    Facts are such awkward things to bring up when you are just beginning to froth your latest “get up” inspired talking point.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Ah, same as my wife – large boobies dragging on the back and shoulders

    Umm. Not quite, Mike of Marion, although I am glad to see you are aware of her problem. With me it’s just that sometimes the underwires dig in after a few hours. I don’t need a bra for hitching up, just for halting the wobbles when I walk, which Da Hairy Ape says is not a good look for the plumbers as it might distract dem from dere plumbing. He has been known to suggest too that I change my t-shirt for something less clingy. And less messy. These things we have on our front do tend to get in the way and catch drips when eating on the run.

    Kitteh talk, though. Nuff said. Some female person in moral authority will be on my case otherwise.
    Not suitable for Tomcats. 🙂

  82. .

    Dot, that is what Labour and the Greens keep saying about their failure to get into power. They are making themselves wilfully blind to the fact that no-one likes LDP ‘Dog Turd Yoghurt’.

    You’re basically saying you’d vote for Gillard-Brown again over the LDP?

  83. Infidel Tiger

    Nanny State strike again.

    Codeine is now prescription only medication.

  84. calli

    Underwires are the Devil’s work.

    Or so I thought until this made the news. She looks quite sweet doesn’t she?

  85. Stimpson J. Cat

    The plumbers have gone home. Hooray. Relax time. I can take my bra off.

    Pure gold Lizzie.
    And, as I have guests arriving shortly, I go in search of a clean cardboard box to wear.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kitteh talk, though

    Secret woman’s business on the Cat?

  87. Grigory M

    She looks quite sweet doesn’t she?

    she even patented the idea for the push-up bra

    I’ll have to re-read The Carpetbaggers.

  88. No Dot, I’m sure you are aware of the point I am making, but I’ll spell it out.
    Like the DogTurd Yoghurt of yore, the sales are suffering because of the presence of DogTurd Policies. This means the percentage of dogturd in the yoghurt is not the problem, it is the actual presence of the dogturd that makes the product inedible.
    OK?

  89. Stimpson J. Cat

    Codeine is now prescription only medication.

    Good. Bloody junkies.
    Although blowing your nose pink for a few days is quite amusing. 🙂

  90. Top Ender

    In the Oz just now:

    Anti-abortioner appeals visa decision
    BY JACQUELINE LE AAP O

    THE wife of a controversial US anti-abortion activist detained at Melbourne airport will try and appeal the Australian government’s decision to revoke her husband’s visa.

    TROY Newman was detained by officials at the airport since after arriving on Thursday because the federal government had revoked his visa amid concerns his planned speaking tour could incite community harm.

    His wife, Mellissa Newman, whose visa was not revoked, has now arrived at the High Court of Australia in Melbourne in preparation for an application to be lodged with the court.

  91. Woolfe

    You have CLEAN cardboard boxes?

    Mine never survive the wash.

  92. Stimpson J. Cat

    You have CLEAN cardboard boxes?

    Mine never survive the wash.

    A rookie mistake.
    The secret is fragrance free baby wipes.

  93. THE wife of a controversial US anti-abortion activist detained at Melbourne airport will try and appeal the Australian government’s decision to revoke her husband’s visa.

    If it gets more than ten seconds on the 6 o’clock Hate, I’ll go to church Sunday.

  94. Woolfe

    Yes, i use those on my dog that insists on peeing on himself as he is too lazy to cock his leg.

    Thanks for the tip though!

  95. spelled or spelt?

    Both are correct (as preterite and past participle of spell—as in “read” or “made an incatation” but not, I prescribe, for the meaning of “provided a brief rest”); my preference—cf. learned and learnt—is for spelled to be used for the preterite and spelt only for the past participle: “The word had been spelt incorrectly so he spelled it properly.”

  96. Oh come on

    Codeine is now prescription only medication.

    Interesting. From what I understand, it’s the stronger codeine meds that will be made prescription-only. Panadeine Extra contains 15mg of codeine per tab; normal Panadeine has 8mg. Panadeine will still be available OTC.

    Actually, 15mg/500mg paracetamol/codeine tabs are pretty strong compared to what’s available OTC throughout the rest of the (developed) world. I was once in a position when I had to make small talk with a pharmacist. Asked him about the deal with pseudoephedrine – he said the bigger problem was with codeine, but he reckoned the government wouldn’t restrict the stronger OTC codeine meds because they’d be worried about the potential for additional patients rocking up to emergency wards of hospitals with pain complaints – easier if they just have a stronger painkiller available to buy at the pharmacy.

    Guess he was wrong about that….

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    “You’re the best fing dat ever happened to me, Lizzie” he whispers

    No need to make it up, Jo. He does say that, but there is no way I would write that rather boring sentence about him. He’s worth a more considered account than you provide, but then, I have every reason to do him justice and you have none. Most happy husbands and wives will recognize the mode though.

    It’s t’ing by the way, darling, not fing. You must differentiate between the Irish aspirate ‘th’ and the Cockney lack of it with the substitution of the f for the ‘th’.

    You think I am disingenuous and of course I am. It is my nature to be so. Live with it.
    Da Hairy Irish Ape says I will probably never grow up; I hope he is right. Who’d want to be you?

  98. calli

    Cardboard boxes? Plenty here.

    My day’s work is done, shelves laden. But one is missing. It seems Anna Karenina has done a moonlight flit (as she was always prone to do), the Metaphysical poets have racked off to another dimension and the Faerie Queen (Part 1) has vanished is a puff of dust. Along with a lot of other highbrow stuff.

    Hope they’re not in a landfill somewhere.

  99. Oh come on

    Remind me not to get into an argument over grammar with Deadman.

  100. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes, i use those on my dog that insists on peeing on himself as he is too lazy to cock his leg.

    Your dog is quite obviously taking the piss.
    Cesar Milan(not a gardener) has the answer.

  101. Woolfe

    I suspect he enjoys the attention, and yes, he is a Beagle!

  102. ella

    You linked to Golden Dawn and won’t apologise, doubling down on the unrelated issues of Agenda 21 and Muslim immigration. You’re either a child mentally or a chucklehead who googles everything they post and you didn’t bother to read the link.

    Anne – Basically what you claimed when linking to Golden Dawn is correct, but not entirely.
    The problem is in the universities with respect to critical race theory and critical whiteness studies. This is what the Stormtroopers are on about, for the most part.

    Google ” Jewish Harvard Professor Noel Ignatiev wants to abolish the white race.” – I’m not linking because these people are sick.

    Some are Jewish; some from other ethnic groups, and some women. However, so are some of their harshest critics. This point needs to be acknowledged.

    There is a conference coming up in Australia of an organization called ACRAWSA – Australian Critical Race and Whiteness Studies Association. I believe this is where the nonsense about “white privilege” in the universities is coming from.

    If a claim is made on the Cat then it may be worth looking at its intellectual merit before launching into a tirade.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fine little story on the local Nine news just now. I had been wondering where the name ‘Skymuster’ came from for the NBN satellite launched today – the launch was successful, and outback people can expect better than ADSL2 service with it, assuming the fees aren’t ridiculous.

    Its a nice story: they held a competition which was won by a 6 year old lady from 400km south of Alice Springs. Her drawing was reproduced on the nose cone of the Ariane 5 launch vehicle. Totally absolute-zero cool! She’ll be able to tell her grandkids this.

    Its another one of the unsung benefits of the Abbott LNP government that he successfully sold FTTN to Oz when Conroy’s paper napkin was going to blow a hundred bill down the toilet with service arriving in the nevernever.

  104. Oh come on

    Jonathan Green on The Dumb with the most uncharitable assessment of Abbott’s post-PM interviews.

  105. Grigory M

    Conroy’s paper napkin was going to blow a hundred bill

    I don’t think anything really changed when Turncoat took it over. For the current mix of FTTH and FTTN, my “back of a bus ticket” estimate is still $90Bn in end cost dollars.

  106. ella

    Sinclair, if you are around, I have a comment in moderation. It is a response to the disagreement between Anne and Dot. It has the dreaded J word in it. Will you look at it, and release the comment if you think it has merit.
    Thanks.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    It seems Anna Karenina has done a moonlight flit (as she was always prone to do), the Metaphysical poets have racked off to another dimension and the Faerie Queen (Part 1) has vanished is a puff of dust.

    They are alive and well in Kindle Land though, Calli. Well, Anna Karenina is, because I downloaded it for free not long ago. The others you will find in Google Ville anyway.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/germany-prints-constitution-arabic-refugees-learn-095805915.html

    The assumption is that said refugees give a rat’s clacker about the rights guaranteed by the German Constitution?

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Remind me not to get into an argument over grammar with Deadman.

    Yes, very unwise. Consider yourself reminded.
    Ohh chagrin. I still smart from ‘we’ and ‘us’.

  110. Oh come on

    ffs

    that idiot hosting The Dumb who’s supposed to be a US politics expert wonders if Putin’s Syrian intervention is about boosting Russian arms sales.

    Doesn’t he realise that Russian OS weapons sales are chickenfeed? Oh, I know they gross ten or twenty – shit, let’s be generous and say 30 – billion dollars a year from arms sales. Pretty good numbers. Who knows about profit margins, but anyway.

    But what else does Russia sell in any quantity? Oil and gas. That’s pretty much it. Arms, oil and gas.

    Russia’s going to have to sell a shitload more weapons to make up for the fall in the oil price.

  111. From the article suggested by S’:

    [Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel] also pointed out that anti-Semitism is not tolerated in Germany.

    Doch sicher.
    Tee hee.

  112. Snoopy

    It’s notable to that the big question after the Russian strikes in Syria is who was hit? That’s not a question that exercises anyone after RAAF sorties.

  113. Des Deskperson

    ‘Its a nice story: they held a competition which was won by a 6 year old lady from 400km south of Alice Springs.’

    The racists chose a whitey!!!

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t think anything really changed when Turncoat took it over.

    Grigory – Unfortunately Conroy and thought-bubble Rudd managed to so sell ordinary voters on it that there would’ve been no way to get out of having some sort of NBN. The signs are that the FTTN concept is rolling out a lot faster than Conroy’s stupid idea. It least that will save some dosh.

    Also my suburb should have FTTN by Christmas, so I can finally trade in my teenaged ADSL1 modem.

  115. Fisky

    As insane and destructive as this Arab invasion invitation is, I don’t believe it is done out of a sense of “German guilt”, although that is a convenient and plausible excuse nor do I believe Merkel to be insane although what she is doing is clearly insane. Merkel and other “European leaders” from France, Sweden, the UK etc. know exactly what they’re doing. They are deliberately, willfully, maliciously and without permission destroying their own nations identity and cultural estrangement through invasion and inevitable bankruptcy. The mental illness manifests itself in the insidious doctrine of “political correctness” a command and control technique imposed at least a decade earlier, a thought weapon used primarily to shut citizens up while pretending to have some moral high ground. Merkel’s obtuse detachment sounds insane because what she’s doing is insane, she knows it, and unfortunately it is deliberate.

    I think the main impetus is the desire of the EU elites to abolish national sovereignty through mass immigration. Their EU project was nearly destroyed over the currency union, so if they can do away with nations there will be less resistance in future.

  116. Sydney Boy

    Rosie Batty currently on The Project. Walked Aly taking part in the interview. Ask him about the rights he affords his wife. Oops. I think I just vomited a bit in my mouth.

  117. Geriatric Mayfly

    Having read here many times that the best thing for parts of the Middle East, is to reduce them to glass. So who cares what the Russians strike with old-time weaponry. Doesn’t bother me, as long as a few more beards get severely singed.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    The racists chose a whitey!!!

    Des – Her drawing is the blue rectangle you can see near the top of the rocket. It must be 2 metres tall. The Euroweenies don’t muck around when it comes to art.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So who cares what the Russians strike with old-time weaponry.

    Given the Russian belief that a sledgehammer is an ideal instrument for cracking nuts, provided you don’t care what happens to the nut, yes, a few beards might be more then singed.

  120. Baldrick

    Deadman
    #1814667, posted on October 1, 2015 at 6:30 pm
    spelled or spelt?

    Thank you Deaders, you’re a veritable font of wisdom.

  121. Grigory M

    spelled or spelt?

    Didn’t we do this 2 or 3 months ago?

  122. Rudiau

    “The word had been spelt incorrectly so he spelled it properly.”

    Thank you Deadman.

  123. Peter

    Dot…..

    What Winston is saying is that the LDP has too many policies that constitute “Deal Breakers” for many voters.

    The clever Senator Lyonhjelm , in trying to include something to please everyone, has managed to do the opposite.

  124. john constantine

    For the Friday night malted nightcappers.

    http://www.ba-bamail.com/content.aspx?source=facebook&emailid=15265

    11 reasons whisky is good for you.

  125. Grigory M

    spelled or spelt?

    Didn’t we do this 2 or 3 months ago?

    Maybe we could cerealise it.

  126. Gab

    Ahahahahaha Troy Newman is taking the immigration minister to court.

    I hope he wins.

    This government is an embarrassment and makes hicksville look sophisticated.

  127. Token

    Ahahahahaha Troy Newman is taking the immigration minister to court.

    I hope he wins.

    Any high priced lawyers helping? The Labor Lites are begging to give away bucket loads of Cth funds to the brave few who stand up to the Australian branch of Big Baby Bodyparts.

  128. Carbon Emitter

    Very quiet to night:
    Hail, Australia’s newest Prime Minister, Lord Ruddbull of Waffle

  129. candy

    This government is an embarrassment and makes hicksville look sophisticated.

    I agree Gab, on the other hand the banning of the lady talking about vaccinations being evil I’m not sure was right?
    Difficult because vaccinations have saved – perhaps hundreds of thousands of lives and stopped suffering.

    I’m conflicted about the ban on that one, because mums and dads surely can make their own minds up but the lady was spreading dangerous information, with little lives at risk.

    What do you think Gab?

  130. Gab

    the banning of the lady talking about vaccinations being evil I’m not sure was right?
    Difficult because vaccinations have saved – perhaps hundreds of thousands of lives and stopped suffering.

    Candy, imo, Free speech is not free is one is silenced. Contrary opinions, however unpopular for the government of the day, should be free to be heard. And free to be ridiculed without the hurty feelings rubbish the left carry on with.

    People should be free to make up their own minds on the issue of vaccinations unless and until it becomes illegal to refuse vaccinations. And those parents who refuse to vaccinate kids should be isolated from the vaccinated population. 🙂

  131. Ragu

    Prediction

    Fiji will beat Wales

  132. candy

    Contrary opinions, however unpopular for the government of the day, should be free to be heard. And free to be ridiculed without the hurty feelings rubbish the left carry on with.

    I agree with that Gab. People must have choice and be exposed to all sorts of opinions. It’s not going to kill a person to listen to something they don’t agree with.

  133. Gab

    Token, not sure how high end Newman’s lawyers are, but here’s their website.

  134. Ros

    Thanks for the breakdown dot. Very interesting.

  135. Mike of Marion

    Gab
    #1814765, posted on October 1, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Be interesting to see if any of the females are associated with the famous Emily List organisation.

  136. feelthebern

    Trump coming up on fox and friends.
    Watch it live before it becomes Twitter fodder.

  137. cohenite

    Great image about the myth of the moderate muslim.

  138. Pickles

    Will Andeson totally wasted on One v funny.

  139. feelthebern

    Donald was a bit garbled on fox.

  140. feelthebern

    Wil Anderson is a cockhead. Fact.

  141. Pickles

    Yes bern but have not seen anyone that stoned on Oz TV. Landmark.

  142. Baldrick

    Will Anderson is unemployable on commercial television. Fact.

  143. Motelier

    LizzieB

    Changing sheets is not a problem. Supplying extra PC items is not a problem. They are easily fixed.

    It is the customers that put the A/C to 16C and create a huge iceblock in the evaporator of the A/C system.

    They then complain about “the A/C did not work”.

    25C at home people and 23C if you are travelling. My Calais is set to 22C all year round.

  144. YT

    Will Andeson totally wasted on One v funny

    FTFY

  145. Tom

    Will Anderson is unemployable on commercial television. Fact.

    Cat Factcheck status: true.

    Verdict: He’d make a useful candle.

  146. Motelier

    GoogleM

    I am pretty sure I have found you in this clip.

    Ohhhh silly me. You should be on a golf course with your 275 mt average drives.

  147. 25C at home people and 23C if you are travelling. My Calais is set to 22C all year round.

    I like it down to 21 at night, if you don’t mind.

  148. We went to Buckingham Palace and had a tour of the State Rooms. There was a framed photo of Lizzie and Da Hairy Irish Ape meeting the Queen and Prince Philip. I could tell it was Lizzie by a) the number of diamond bracelets and b) the hairiness of the husband in question.

  149. Motelier

    I like it down to 21 at night, if you don’t mind.

    Phillippa. Please, think of the environment. All of the debil debil carbon atoms being released to power your fetish for cold rooms.

    /sarc off

  150. Motelier, I am a hot sleeper. It’s sad, but true.

    I also snore like a sawmill, apparently. Three weeks of close sharing with two other family members has confirmed this sad fact.

    But the cat was pleased to see me when I got back.

  151. Motelier

    We went to Buckingham Palace and had a tour of the State Rooms.

    Did you go to the stables?

  152. No, they wouldn’t let us in the stables after I kept doing impersonations of Camilla.

  153. daggers

    One of the instigators behind Troy Newman’s exclusion seems to be Queensland MP, Terri Butler.

    She was on ABC News tonight implying he wanted to murder doctors performing abortions.

    She can be contacted at [email protected]

  154. Motelier

    But the cat was pleased to see me when I got back.

    Cat regulars are always well regarded in this neck of the woods.

  155. Ripper

    Got mine set at 27 , will put it up to 28 when it heats up a bit more (was 39.5 in my back yard this arvo.)

    That way you acclimatise to the heat and don’t notice it so much.

  156. So Troy Newman can’t come to Australia, but racist misogynist extremists who use religion as an excuse for violence against women and children can be allowed freely in and out of the country, and also given free air time on Q and A, a program on the national broadcaster.

  157. Motelier

    No, they wouldn’t let us in the stables after I kept doing impersonations of Camilla.

    You “bitch” you now owe me a new Bluetooth keyboard for the ipad. That was good quality 5th leg blend that got spilled.

  158. Gab

    Terri Butler. She was on ABC News tonight implying he wanted to murder doctors performing abortions

    A lie. He wrote in his book (years ago) that doctors who perform abortions should be tried for murder.

  159. Tom

    I am a hot sleeper.

    Mills and Boon soft porn is not acceptable at the Cat young lady.

  160. But the cat was pleased to see me when I got back.

    Cat regulars are always well regarded in this neck of the woods.

    Not that Cat, although thank you anyway. The feline ginger sook who lives with us was in the care of a lovely kind and gentle housesitter for three weeks. He was very good with her (we had regular updates and a video), but he was actually glad to see us, and very affectionate, very quickly.

    This was really unexpected and very touching. Most cats, I am reliably informed, are cold and standoffish when their slaves owners go away for a while, and then come back.

  161. Motelier

    Got mine set at 27 , will put it up to 28 when it heats up a bit more (was 39.5 in my back yard this arvo.)

    WTF

    I lived in Mt Isa in 89 – 92. Never saw those temps at this time of year. Although we did see a 46c in Feb and a real stinker of 44 with thunderstorms in November. The last one got the AC system working overtime.

  162. I am a hot sleeper.

    Mills and Boon soft porn is not acceptable at the Cat young lady.

    Oh yes. There’s nothing so sexy as night sweats, especially combined with snoring.

  163. Motelier

    Truth be told.

    I am a hot sleeper. In winter MrsM has 2 or 3 blankets on her side of the bed. I am happy with a sheet down to 8C. Any lower and I do feel a bit of a chill so I will pull up a blanket.

    When it gets below 8C MrsM rolls over and gives me a cuddle :opps: just to keep warm of course.

  164. Tom

    Too much information, Motelier.

  165. Ripper

    WTF

    UHI it was 36.8 officially out at the BOM 5km away.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    Won’t bore people with travellers tales, but a couple of observations from Barcelona.
    Pick-pocketing is rife with seemingly little done to curb it by police, and the thrust of public warnings seems to be aimed at the victim … “you need to protect your belongings, and it is pretty much your fault if you get robbed.”
    It occurred to me that, for theft to be so widespread, it must be tacitly approved by the authorities.
    However, our AirBnB host warned that “local authorities” might knock on your door and ask to see a copy of your rental contract and kick you out of the apartment if you show them. He advised that we simply say we are private guests with no rental contract and no payment (I don’t know if he was overly dramatising the last bit).
    So there you have it.
    Private rentals are illegal and need to be stamped out, but assault and theft is simply a bit of tourist taxation and income redistribution.

  167. Motelier

    Too much information, Motelier.

    MrsM likes to stay hot. I heat her up.

    Opppppssss

  168. Motelier

    MrsM and I had our honeymoon on Brampton Island.

    We have been there many times and were one of the last guest before it closed.

    One night we booked the 9 course de gustation private menu. Private is with 20 other guests.

    Ben Southal was one of those guests.

    Ben is a pom, but recognises that we all have something to offer. And he is living a dream.

    It was a great night.

  169. Tom

    Won’t bore people with travellers tales, but a couple of observations from Barcelona.
    Pick-pocketing is rife with seemingly little done to curb it by police

    Barcelona is well-known as the pick-pocket capital of the world.

  170. Geriatric Mayfly

    No emergency turn Left for a landing in the ME then LL.
    Hints that the lost city of Sodom might be yielding up some clues. I am sure your first hand expertise in these matters, and a dig-side appraisal would have been welcomed by the excavators.

  171. Token

    Barcelona is well-known as the pick-pocket capital of the world.

    Sounds likw the EU approach to immigration. In fact once the Liars Party is back on the Treasury benches, that will be our policy too.

  172. Token

    Token, not sure how high end Newman’s lawyers are, but here’s their website.

    Let’s hope they are competent.

    Btw I see Libertarians on Spacechook celebrating the ban. You know the open border crowd.

  173. Empire

    People should be free to make up their own minds on the issue of vaccinations unless and until it becomes illegal to refuse vaccinations. And those parents who refuse to vaccinate kids should be isolated from the vaccinated population. 🙂

    Are you drunk Gab?

  174. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Ragu at 8:26 pm:

    “Prediction

    Fiji will beat Wales”

    Nah, their discipline won’t hold for more than a half a game. Wales are 7:1 on and Fiji are 5:1 – not sure if Sportsbet reflects Australian punters’ opinion or not, certainly not UK money.

    England are 11:8 on and the Qantas Harmless Wallabies 6:5. I reckon England will play their game of the year and leave the Wallabies flopping about like a beached flathead.

  175. Infidel Tiger

    Wow. Internal Liberal Party polling showed Hastie was winning 57-43 while Abbott was PM.

    This is why Turnbull had to go early.

  176. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Wow. I see now I made that speech to a near empty room.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    I want to beat Wil Anderson about the head with Adam Hills prosthetic leg.
    Fact.
    Also remove his black nail polish.

  178. Motelier

    I am sorry.

    Because of the failure of Abbott and co to do what they were elected to do, my vote was lost.

    Just because the parliamentary party decided to elect a new leader has not solved the problem.

    I refuse to vote for the Greens, ALP or any independent. Now the LNP has been added to my list.

    At least I am saving my tax dollars.

  179. Ragu

    Nah Mick, Fiji has had a good rest and the Welsh, after a 5 day turn around, are calling up the subbie subbies to cover injuries.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For Phillippa.

    You are just a Honky Tonk Woman.

    All those memories of a mis – spent youth….

  181. Mike of Marion

    On Larry Pickering’s FB page:
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=930640813656744&id=236991276355038&substory_index=0

    The Rise Of The Australian Liberty Alliance
    by Paul Zanetti

    In the wake of a tidal wave of Liberal Party desertions, Paul Zanetti interviews the playmakers at the head of a front-running Conservative alternative, the Australian Liberty Alliance (whatever that means) who are launching later this month:

    The inside story behind the “secretive” new political party about to shake up the Liberal Party – and Australian politics.

    Liberal Party MPs and officials were hoping their support base would settle down after the parliamentary coup, which cut down first-term Prime Minister, but two weeks from Tony Abbott’s demise the shock and awe has turned to unabated rage in the traditional conservative base.

    Supporters could never have imagined the Liberal Party would stoop to Labor tactics. Tony Abbott mistakenly depended on this for survival.

    You only have to check into talkback radio, read online blogs, news sites or social media to realise the Party has a problem. Caller after caller tells the same story:

    “I’ve voted Liberal all my life…”.
    “I’ve handed out how-to-vote cards for the Libs for the past 20 years…”.
    “I’ve been a member of the Liberal Party for…”.
    And they all end with the same line:
    “But I will never vote for a Liberal Party led by Malcolm Turnbull.”

    And they certainly didn’t vote for that at the last election. Party loyalists feel betrayed.

    The Libs’ strategist Mark Textor shrugs them off, “the loss of disgruntled conservatives will be outweighed by the appeal of a more moderate party to swinging voters. The qualitative evidence is they don’t matter,” Mr Textor said.

    “The sum of a more centrist approach outweighs any alleged marginal loss of so-called base voters.”

    So, where do the ‘conservatives-of-no-consequence’ go to if the Libs clearly are prepared to sacrifice them in exchange for the party lurching further Left?

    If online comments, newspaper letters and the airwaves are any guide, two early options seem to be either Family First or even Pauline Hanson (again) if you’re a Queenslander looking for a Senator.

    The name that pops up more than most lately, is Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA), even though many don’t know much about who they are. Their popularity is based on word of mouth and online shares of their manifesto from their website and a Facebook page. They’ve even been described as “secretive”.
    So, exactly what is ALA?

    The party stemmed from an Islam-critical organisation called the Q Society, named after the Melbourne suburb of Kew (Q) where the initial planning meetings were held in 2010.

    The society is aligned with the global SION (Stop The Islamisation Of Nations) movement headed by Pamela Geller, famed US freedom fighter and organiser of the Garland, Texas, Mohammed cartoon exhibition which ended in two dead jihadists.

    “Q’s intent is to educate Australians on the Islamisation of our schools, food chains, judicial system and democratic institutions, implementing Islamic Sharia law, which has occurred in parts of the UK and Europe”, she explained.

    “This ‘Islamisation by stealth’ is often done by claims of discrimination or victimisation, to which a tolerant society will succumb. No other religion makes such demands on societal institutions.

    “Long before ISIS came into our living rooms and invaded online news feeds, Q had warned of the violent nature of Islam whose will is to establish a global Islamic caliphate as instructed by its founder, and promoted by Islamic clerics”, explained Debbie.

    This, Q Society warns, is the duty of all followers, (but in reality they accept it is taken seriously by only the most devout).

    The Q Society appears to have been well ahead of the game, certainly ahead of our news services and parliamentarians and long before ISIS exposed the horrors of Islam’s ambitiously bloody jihad.

    This jihad has since reached into Australian homes luring impressionable and vulnerable youths creating a billion dollar headache for our Federal Government, police and security forces.

    Q’s warnings seem prophetic as we look back on the Sydney siege, multiple arrests of homegrown terrorists and 120 Australian jihadists recruited to fight for ISIS.

    The Q Society has sponsored campaigns against halal certification, which had zero public awareness a few years ago, but today is front-page news. Not that they take credit, although they have been pumping out educational online videos on halal certification schemes in Australia.

    This material has spread virally spawning anti-halal certification websites and social media boycott pages.

    The ABC’s Four Corners investigation recently reported that halal certification fees fund the growth of Islam by financing local and offshore mosques and Islamic schools. Halal certification is now a subject of a current Senate inquiry.

    Non-Muslims today seem more aware than ever about core Islamic beliefs.

    In this digital information age, Islamic teachings and texts are available at the click of a mouse to the non-Islamic public.

    Australians are now paying attention. In this environment the Q Society has grown its membership and representation in all States.

    Q’s lobbying of politicians to warn of the ‘true nature of Islam’ fell on deaf ears, at which point the Q Society considered forming a political party.

    In February 2013 the Q Society sponsored the visit to Australia of Geert Wilders. The experience in the lead-up to the visit was an essential trigger to forming the Australian Liberty Alliance.

    During August and September 2012, the Gillard Labor Government delayed the issue of a visa for Wilders.

    Immigration Minister Chris Bowen granted the visa only after the Q Society had to postpone the tour due to the visa uncertainty.

    The tour was overshadowed by a total of 30 venues cancelling, or refusing bookings, with some reneging on fully paid contracts two days before the scheduled event.

    Companies and newspapers were too afraid to accept advertising, online ticket companies feared potential hacking attempts and the Westpac Bank was unwilling to process credit card payments for fear of reprisals.

    Ironically, this climate of fear – and threat to freedoms – was the type of intimidation the Q Society had been warning about all along.

    What the Government and others had hoped would just “go away” has in fact led to a larger movement in a new political party.

    Despite not yet having launched, ALA is now bigger than the Q Society and growing rapidly in membership and supporters.

    It would be wrong to classify the Q Society or the ALA as racist or bigoted. It supports immigration and says it has no objection to homosexuals. Its platform is non-racist and ethnically-inclusive.

    The Party’s policies call for a cohesive society, which promotes integration and not segregation.

    “Tolerance” the Party says, “should be mutual. The teachings of Islam, which discriminate against non-Muslims, homosexuals and women, are incompatible with core Australian values.”

    Their message is that Islam is more than a religion, it is a complete belief system and ideology incorporating political ambition via a legal system (Sharia), and global war (jihad) promoting criminal conduct and human rights abuses, all sanctioned by a deity to advantage the faith.

    Its aim is the destruction of non-believers and its intention is to establish world domination (a Caliphate).

    Debbie points to the teachings of the founder of Islam, the prophet Mohammed, the Qur’an, the Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and the Hadiths (a collection of Mohammed’s recorded sayings and actions). Sira and Hadiths together form the Sunna, the way of the Prophet.

    These texts are the proof of their warnings to non-Muslims or kuffrs (kufars) who must convert or die, when numbers become large enough to take control.

    The Q Society refers not only to texts but also to history as warnings. They also point to Europe where Islamic enclaves have led to no-go zones for non-Muslims and local authorities where crime has accelerated in proportion with Islamic immigration, in particular against kuffrs.

    While ALA was founded on stopping the Islamisation of (spread of Islam in) Australia, the Party’s manifesto shows a broad base of policies including:
    · smaller government
    · integration not segregation
    · reconciliation (no apartheid)
    · affordable cleaner energy,
    · citizenship and community
    · improving health care
    · ageing in dignity
    · freedom of information
    · smarter learning
    · better future
    · back to basics for public broadcasting
    · fairer trade while securing Australian jobs
    · reciprocal foreign ownership of Australian land
    · protecting the environment
    · restoring civil society
    · advancing the natural family
    · foreign affairs and aid
    · defending Australia
    · Constitutional change (opposed) and,
    · lower income tax, but broader consumption taxes.

    You can read their manifesto in full here:

    http://australianlibertyalliance.org/…/ALA_MANIFESTO_OG1400…

    The Party is launching in Perth on October 20, where its first parliamentary candidates will be introduced. Dutch MP, Islamic-critical Geert Wilders, will be visiting Australia for the launch.

    Debbie Robinson, the public face of ALA is also Q’s Perth based President who explained she is a nurse who came to the Q Society as a professional carer increasingly concerned about what it is that drives people to commit violent crimes after witnessing too much of it during her nursing days.

    She is a trim and attractive auburn haired lady in her 50s who is articulate and has been involved in endurance sports, apart from politics, all her life.

    Her studies of violent behavior led her to question Islam, which uses jihad to enforce its bloody dominance and growth.

    “Each time I saw another victim of violence I’d ask myself what could motivate someone to do that to a fellow human being. My curiosity led me to do a lot of research into the psychology of violence. My opposition to Islam comes from that”, said Debbie.

    Robinson said the catalyst for her awareness was a visit to Melbourne when she witnessed a violent anti-Israel rally. She picked up a flyer and found the organisers were the Muslim Students Association, Students for Palestine and the Socialist Alliance. She still has that flyer.

    When she returned home she researched further. What she discovered about Islam horrified her. She decided to get involved in opposing the ideology. She looked for a political party with awareness or policies on Islam but found none. It was at this point in 2010 she discovered the fledgling Q Society.

    Her first meeting was in Sydney with 12 members in attendance and Robinson volunteered to do whatever she could to help.

    “I came into it purely as a humanitarian”, she said. “People who don’t know me wrongly accuse me of being a bigot or racist, but that’s never been me. I’ve always been a carer, which is why I became a nurse and why I’m now concerned about Islam.

    “I’m not anti-Muslim, I’m anti-Islam. There’s a difference,” she explains with conviction.

    “Islam is a ruthless ideology, just as Nazism or Communism are. That’s what I oppose. I’m not opposed to the people. If you’re opposed to Communism it doesn’t mean you’re anti Chinese or anti Russian.

    “Muslims are also victims of Islam, just as non-Muslims are. You only have to look at how various sects of Islam justify the slaughter of fellow Muslims in the name of the one religion if one sect does not adhere to the same view, or is not sufficiently strict in their faith. They are regarded as apostates. Apostasy is punishable by death.

    “Muslims who don’t want to remain in this religion are trapped under threat of beheading. What other religion does that today? It’s gone on for centuries and it’s going on right now, every day”, said Debbie who was getting quite animated.

    “Naïve or uneducated commentators talk wishfully of a ‘moderate’ Islam or ‘extreme’ Islam. But there is no moderate or extreme Islam. There is just one Islam. There are Muslims who are good people not because of Islam, but in spite of Islam.

    “The minority that follows Islam to the letter, the ones who wish to practice ‘pure’ Islam, and copy their founder, are a threat. But how do you tell who they are in a community?

    “The political class in Australia – and overseas – has looked the other way for too long, with leaders wrongly suggesting that Islamic jihad and beheadings ‘have nothing to do with Islam’.

    “Those practices are core Islamic teachings found in the Qu’ran. The politicians have let the people down by ignoring the truth. At ALA we hear this every day. There is a huge public awakening”, explained Debbie.

    The ALA was formed about 18 months ago after Q’s privately commissioned polling by Roy Morgan Research showed a total 36% ‘very likely’ and ‘likely’ to vote for a political party proposing to stop or reduce immigration from Islamic countries.

    That’s more than three times the best figures for the Greens, which polls between 8% and 12%. Translated to the Senate a political party with that size vote could hold the much-coveted balance of power ahead of the Greens.

    Robinson says that since the Turnbull overthrow of Tony Abbott membership enquiries have surged. Before the coup, their Facebook page had 40,000 weekly post views. The week after the Turnbull coup this surged to over 800,000 views.

    “We don’t widely promote or advertise, not yet, apart from social media posts. New supporters are finding us. It’s word of mouth and social media shares.

    “We’re very careful about who we’ve already selected as candidates and will select in the future. We’ve spent the past 18 months building the legal, administrative and electoral framework of the party and candidate selection.”

    Robinson points to Europe showing conservative, anti-Islamic immigration parties on the rise. A large flow of immigrants has caused a backlash, which has lit nationalist sentiments.

    France’s, outspoken Conservative leader, Marine Le Pen, leads the polls ahead of Francois Hollande and Nicolas Sarkozy.

    The French presidential frontrunner continues to gather support with her slamming of the European Union for creating a trumped up Syrian refugee crisis, which she says is not Syrian and not refugee-centred. She champions Christianity over Islam.

    Dutch anti-Islam MP Geert Wilders’ Freedom Party ran for the first time in the 2006 election where it gained nine seats. In 2014 it won 15 of 150 seats in the House of Representatives.

    Wilders calls the recent mass migration into Europe, “an Invasion.”

    Denmark, known for being liberal, (as in small l liberal), and for its generous welfare system shifted sharply to the right in the recent election, when it voted out its left-wing leadership in favour of a conservative multi-party Government.

    The right-wing Danish People’s Party (DPP) made the biggest gains, capturing 21.1 per cent of the vote, up from 12.3 per cent in 2011 on a platform of the economy/welfare and Islamic immigration.

    The DPP is now the largest right wing party with 37 seats in the 179 seat parliament. Neighbouring Finland is also experiencing a swing to the right.

    The national Finns Party is the second biggest party in the Finnish parliament with a strong anti-Islamic immigration policy and is part of the country’s governing coalition.

    In Sweden the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats has become the largest party in Sweden according to recent polling where it has received 25.2 per cent approval rating, almost doubling since last September’s parliamentary election. It is ahead of the governing Social Democrats on 23.4 per cent and the leading centre-right moderates on 21 per cent.

    Austria’s anti-immigration Freedom Party has this week doubled its vote and seats in State elections in upper Austria, the leading industrial area in the country. The party had the biggest gains in the region with over 30.4 per cent of the vote securing 18 seats.

    The Party’s chief, Heinz-Christian Strache admitted the results exceeded expectations, saying, “I’m overwhelmed by this amazing election.”

    He went on to say, “Today’s election was not about upper Austria, but about one topic only, namely asylum. The winners amplified the understandable fears and concerns of the people.”

    Strache has argued for a fence to be built on Austria’s border to stem migrant flows.

    The Europe of Nations and Freedom is a political group in the European Parliament launched on 15 June 2015 by France’s most popular presidential front-runner Marine Le Penn and Holland’s Geert Wilders.

    The group comprises anti-immigration European parties, the Freedom Party of Austria, the Flemish Interest, the Polish Congress of The New Right and a former UK Independence Party (UKIP) member.

    Ralf Schumann, National Secretary of the ALA says the awareness of Islam here is no less than in Europe. “The parties”, he explains, “are similar in principle with the same voter base.”

    Although our borders are secure for now, the PM who secured our borders has been replaced by a new socially progressive Prime Minister, albeit toeing the conservative party line for now.

    Many conservatives don’t trust Turnbull, they wonder how long it will be before he reverts to type. This is what is what appears to be driving the mass resignations from the Liberal Party and pushing them towards a viable alternative.

    It seems a Turnbull led Liberal Party can only benefit the ALA.
    Debbie Robinson is well aware that Left critics will attack her and the Party, but she takes it in her stride. In Europe, similar attacks have only contributed to the awareness and rise of the centre-right, anti-Islamic parties.

    “All political parties are criticised by opponents and journalists. That’s the way it should be in a democracy. I accept and value that. But under Islamic law you don’t enjoy freedoms to oppose or criticize”, said Debbie.

    “Critics are beheaded or crucified, including bloggers and journalists. Homosexuals are stoned or thrown off buildings. The recent case of the young man in Saudi Arabia facing public beheading followed by the crucifixion of his headless corpse in a public square is another example of Sharia law. We oppose that.

    Saudi Arabia is even considered a moderate Islamic country.
    “Anybody who criticises or opposes us would have to be either uneducated about Islamic teachings, or sympathetic to Islamic ideology.

    “Those who oppose the growth of Islam in Australia are free to vote for ALA and our other policies, if they agree. That freedom is what we cherish.

    “I don’t see our policies as Right or Left. They are what’s best for Australia and its people to protect our values. Our environmental policies are green and our fair trade policies to protect Australian jobs would make the Labor Party proud. We want to preserve what our forefathers fought for”, explained Debbie.

    It’s apparent ALA is not another One Nation or PUP, which were both built on misdirected impulses with questionable candidates, personality clashes, and flawed erratic policies that led to inevitable implosions.

    ALA seems to exude a patient confidence and purpose knowing there is a swelling tide of unhappy, disaffected voters looking for a new voice. So far they are not on the radar of most of the mainstream media (MSM), which is the way the party has wanted it.

    If the juggernaut in Europe and social media in Australia are any indication, the MSM haven’t yet realised what is on the way. Neither have the other major parties.

    But that’s bound to change after the ALA launches this month.

    I came away believing this is a sound Party of substance and commitment with the promise of longevity. They have clearly done their homework and it’s my belief that they have every chance of snaring a well-deserved place in the Australian political spectrum.
    http://www.zanettisview.com

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    It’s not going to kill a person to listen to something they don’t agree with.

    If ’twas Candy then most of us would be deceased from merely watching Their ABC.

    Glad to see you safety returned Philippa and to get the good news that the National Oldies, Brenda and Phil, still have our photo on display at Bucks. Da Hairy Ape is very good with the aged and Her Maj in particular is quite pally with the Irish these days, so that’s all worked out well.

    I think Attapuss is going to miss us horribly under Big Sis’s tender care while we are in Hawaii. Big Sis is remarkably like Johanna. A very opinionated disciplinarian, whom I admire and respect, as I do Johanna. Big Sis thinks I am wayward (when she was the one with the teenage pregnancy) because I was a runaway kid from the sort of nightmare she was living at the time, in her chosen fire, having jumped there from the familial frying pan. And because she’s Big Sis and knows what it was like, I love her to bits too.

    Jo, you should hear Big Sis on HIA’s ‘designer underpants’. She would dress him from K-Mart, feed him from BI-LO, and he would learn to like it or else. She dislikes international travel and takes her holidays in her caravan with whoever is her latest beau. She is not really short of a penny, having done comfortably well in Sydney real estate (with my advice; I am good at RE) but she is too Calvinist in nature (not religious though) to spend up much. You would both get on so well, I am sure of it, tut-tutting about me and what a problem I am in general, with some instances of the particular well to the fore.

  183. Ros

    I did read Mick, but the best I could say is you were talking about football, one of the rugby ones. And that Australia wasn’t going to win.

  184. Ros

    The Australian, Shanahan’s hundreds resigned. 1790 comments so far. Over 600 currently reading. Their moderators would never have had such a late night. Running very strongly against Turnbull.

  185. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Ragu at 10:42 pm:

    “Nah Mick, Fiji has had a good rest and the Welsh, after a 5 day turn around, are calling up the subbie subbies to cover injuries.”

    Yeah, nah you are right but I reckon their focus ain’t what it could be.

    For all the years I’ve spent praying in the chapel of rugby I’ve never been big on self assured predictions of results. I watched the Springboks play some fabulous football for half a game in Brisbane this year and then they all but stood transfixed like rabbits in the spotlight for 40 odd minutes and got done. On any analysis of personnel, talent and preparation the fabulous All Blacks should never have dropped a game this year and did.

    England has the imperative of preventing marvelous riches running through their fingers after a loss this weekend – a fortnight of rugby to go and the host knocked out (after Wales and if the Wallabies succeed) would be sub optimal for their union’s finances.

  186. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Ros at 10:50 pm:

    “I did read Mick, but the best I could say is you were talking about football, one of the rugby ones. And that Australia wasn’t going to win.”

    Well thanks for listening Ros! … which brings to mind my sometimes farewell of “That was a good conversation” and the cheeky brown face which pops out from behind me to say to the departing friend “Mick really means thanks for listening”. Dunno why they let ’em into the country in the first place ….

  187. Token

    Since Pope Flannery stuck his foot back in his mouth & ignore church / state boundaries – VDH notes where the left will take this:

    Would an American president dare to visit the Vatican to lecture the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church about their blatant sex and age discrimination, and to advise Francis that his successor should be female or under 50?

    Should Americans urge the pope to adopt the supposedly enlightened Western doctrine of disparate impact, which might fault senior Vatican clergymen for failing to promote diversity in matters of sex, race, or age?

    In this new freewheeling climate of frank exchange, should Protestant friends now advise Catholic dioceses to open their aggregate 200 million acres of global church lands to help house current migrants? Or should Francis first deplore the capitalist business practices in the administration of the so-called Vatican Bank?

  188. cohenite

    Mike of Marion

    #1814863, posted on October 1, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    On Larry Pickering’s FB page:
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=930640813656744&id=236991276355038&substory_index=0

    The Rise Of The Australian Liberty Alliance
    by Paul Zanetti

    Thanks Mike. Australia needs this party with all 3 main political parties, in varying degrees, licking the fetid backsides of cultural relativism and Islam.

  189. Ragu

    The personnel switches England have made would suggest a game plan of hitting up through the midfield/just off the ruck, probably the best tactic they can make. Be interesting to see what brand of silly Chieka thinks is best to combat that and how our halves melt down under the pressure.

    But yeah nah, Fiji are in for a real chance which could put the pool down to bonus points

  190. Ros

    According to smh Turnbull cut a tax deal with business reps unions and social welfare.

    No small business, farmers, miners, superranuants. He is stuffing it already. Though tomorrow could be a different story.

  191. Oh come on

    I want to beat Wil Anderson about the head with Adam Hills prosthetic leg.

    Agreed, Stimpy. At least make your shitty jokes about something you have a fucking clue about so they don’t fall totally flat, you talentless metrosexual numpty.

    Wil Anderson’s a bit of a tosser, too.

    (just jokes, Stimps! It’s Anderson who’s the talentless metrosexual numpty. You’re just a bit of a tosser)

  192. Ros

    Too depressing. Maybe tomorrow the Nats will have hone on strike and the Libs will have grown spines.

  193. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Ragu at 11:08 pm:

    “’bout rugby, yeah”

    Yes to all of that and a spontaneous belly laugh to the middle bit. I’ve seen them all from Russell Fairfax onwards and we haven’t had a competent first five since Larkham! Aaaarghhh.

    I’m still uncertain about Cheika – he studied under Simon Poidevin and John Maxwell and learned well how to graft and cheat and scratch his way to the top in Club Rugby; and succeeded in Europe – co-coaching with David Knox, so his rugby pedigree is good. He had the wit to do more with his life than play, by creating a sizeable rag trade business and he had the discipline to learn several European languages. That is, he’s intelligent and driven.

    I’m not so sure that is enough though – taking amiable Cliff Palu and useless big log Skelton with the squad was a poor decision. Further, he is up against some crafty coaches – lots of expat Kiwis – who are pretty intelligent and driven themselves.

  194. Ragu

    On any analysis of personnel, talent and preparation the fabulous All Blacks should never have dropped a game this year and did.

    We got lucky in that game by playing hard through the ruck and making the advantage line. All Blacks came back in the final Bledisloe and completely dominated fucked us over in the ruck and tackle (while generally only committing 3 blokes to do the job) and then Chieka stuck with the same game plan in the second half. Bizarre stuff

  195. Thanks Mike. Australia needs this party with all 3 main political parties, in varying degrees, licking the fetid backsides of cultural relativism and Islam.

    Thanks Cohenite. I heartily agree with you.
    I think.

  196. notafan

    A lesbian couple I am acquainted with got all hot under the collar about the evil tourists taking away apartments from the indigenous of Barcelona.
    It’s a thing over there, in the free money for everyone crowd. Plenty of room for all the Indians and Pakistanis that run the grocery stores and tourist trinket shops though.
    I get the impression that drunken poms etc in the summer are such easy picking it’s pick pocket heaven with 5000 € a week incomes possible (according to a BBC documentary I saw)
    Might be why the local police don’t care so much.

  197. Ros

    The Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry and the Australian Council of Social Services have agreed to do “solid work” together on a jobs program following the meeting with Malcolm Turnbull, meaning young people who’ve been out of a job for long periods could work in small businesses.”

    The chamber as I understand represents industry associations etc. The Small Business Association isn’t one of them. And they and Turnbull and the council of social services have decided small business can take on difficult and unskilled young people . Can’t get less consultative than that.

    And like big business hasn’t got the resources to take them on. And it would be far less damaging to the finances of big business.

    Must give up, very hard to sleep suffering from,apoplexy.

  198. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    My abiding love in rugby is at Club level, especially reinforced in recent years after the ARU took to planning ahead only until next Friday’s long executive lunch (you oughta hear my Eastwood’s President Bret Papworth hold forth on the ARU!); and just about any game Foxtel broadcasts from New Zealand – ITM Cup and such.

    Expat New Zealanders have revived Club rugby here ever so strongly after it lost so many young men to the expanded Super Rugby competition – they provide about 60% of players. I have found their mindset and commitment to a successful rugby community quite outstanding.

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    You’re just a bit of a tosser

    Not as bad as I was in my teenage years.
    I have mellowed like a fine wine.

  200. Ros
    #1814889, posted on October 1, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    +1

  201. JC

    Salvatore at the Pub

    Ros
    #1814889, posted on October 1, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    +1

    -3

  202. C.L.

    Turnbull to announce surrender to Muslim demands:

    PM to reset terror pitch to Muslims

    CAMERON STEWART, SARAH MARTIN
    Malcolm Turnbull will seek to recast the government’s relationship with Muslims through more co-operative and inclusive policies.

  203. Steve tickler

    I saved the taxpayer good money today. Not a medicare card to be seen. Or a claim on private health. I wonder what the cost would have been to role up to a GP?

    I had a blocked ear. Wax! Deaf in the Left ear … partly deaf.

    I employed a simple spray bottle, and adjusted the nozzle to form a concentrated spray of hot water into the ear canal. Problem solved after 20 minutes of spray.

    All learnt from a nurse from South Africa, after i visited a GP.

    (:

  204. Steve tickler

    “All learnt from a nurse from South Africa, after i visited a GP.”

    That was 3 years ago.

  205. mr skeletor

    Jesus, is there ANYTHING PM Waffles hasn’t fucked up yet?

    Borders – radio gaffe
    Free speech – abortion man ban
    climate change – greg hunt BS
    Economy – “tax the rich”
    ABC – free blowjobs

    I don’t think there is anything left for him to go retard left on.

    I am proud to say I was against him from minute one.

  206. Makka

    Batty gets in on the Immigration policy. Turncoat and the spineless Libs will no doubt cave;

    “Australian of the Year Rosie Batty has called on Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to close Australia’s offshore detention centres, saying they are “by their very design, unsafe and dangerous places”.

    Ms Batty’s intervention, along with strong protests by other prominent women, academics and MPs within the Coalition, heaps more pressure on the government to take action amid allegations of rampant sexual violence, self harm and mental torment on Nauru and PNG’s Manus Island.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rosie-batty-takes-on-malcolm-turnbull-over-detention-centres-they-must-be-shut-down-20151001-gjz5zq.html#ixzz3nKKOOq9i

  207. C.L.

    This picture was taken in a Swedish street.

    This is the vision open borders advocates have for Australia.

    Picture from this story:

    Migrant: It’s “Normal” to Call Swedish Women Whores Among Muslim Migrants (Video).

  208. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    The Daily Telegraph reports:

    “Footy Show stars ordered to stop being sexist

    “On the back of two widely read RendezView opinion pieces published this week, which criticised the ‘boys’ club’ culture, both the AFL and Channel Nine have been moved to act.”

    Good luck with that – Sam Newman and Billy Brownless bring hundreds of thousands into Channel 9 every year by being Sam and Billy.

    I just don’t get this next bit, where it emanated from and why people rush in to use the silly bloody term …

    “Ian Paterson, the managing director of Channel Nine in Melbourne, has now met with the mother who was subjected to the “stripper” slur made by Billy Brownless last Friday.

    Paterson reached out to some whinging sheila who complained about the inherent violence in wolf whistles from blokes like Billy … Paterson said he will reach out to sports bosses”

    It sounds so very evangelical. Do they supplicate and prostrate themselves during this “reaching out” thing that they do, roll their eyes, call on the Lord, make an attempt to imitate Dionne Warwick? These are supposedly serious businessmen expressing themselves like civil marriage celebrants for Pete’s sake!

    Then followed a whole lot of repetitive claptrap about no wymminses living as “sexy objects” or enduring “slurpies” by 2020 and making sure that “it” never, ever happens again. There has been, as yet, no AFL or Channel 9 directive forbidding plunging necklines and soaring hems at Brownlow Medal nights.

    Nine did take the opportunity to reaffirm its commitment to bringing us close ups of whatever magnificent set of boobs Dr Geoffrey Edelsten is married to from time to time.

  209. Fisky

    This picture was taken in a Swedish street.

    This is the vision open borders advocates have for Australia.

    The LDP love it. They are looking at another 0.0001% of GDP in that street alone, plus the usual freedom stimulus that results from Muslim immigration.

  210. Andrew

    Turnbull to announce surrender to Muslim demands:

    Considering A666ott already gave them all their demands, I can only assume further concessions would involve pork and alcohol bans and Sunday penalty rates applying from sunset Friday

  211. Andrew

    The LDP love it. They are looking at another 0.0001% of GDP in that street alone, plus the usual freedom stimulus that results from Muslim immigration.

    LOL some fuckwit Italian on CNBC actually identified the cost of housing the million undocumented pretend Syrians a month as an ECONOMIC STIMULUS today! I shit you not, these Euroweenies actually think what they’ve done to themselves is good for the economy!

  212. Baldrick

    This picture was taken in a Swedish street.

    … and this is a picture of a Sydney, Australia street.

  213. Baldrick

    Malcolm Turnbull will seek to recast the government’s relationship with Muslims through more co-operative and inclusive policies.

    Way to go Mal. A sure fire way to get the voter base on-side. NOT!

  214. None

    Bibi finished this with a 45 second death stare. Now that Abbott is gone, Bibi is the only national leader left in the West (and I count Israel as West) with balls.

  215. notafan

    What work did Batty do before she became an expert on everything?

  216. notafan

    Abbott might have folded on 18c but he did not fold on anti terrorism measures; much to the chagrin of groups like Hizb Ut Caliphate Now!
    Even Labor supported those.

  217. Tom

    Cue frightbat self-immolation:

    Iowahawk’s Thought for today.

    Via Blair

  218. Tintarella di Luna

    With all this hot air there will be climate change sorry if it’s paywalled seems Lord Waffle of Wentworth is pinching Bull Shitten’s three-word slopolicy – here is some choice tidbit:

    Mr Turnbull said a tax reform green paper would be released “shortly’’ and Innovation Minister Christopher Pyne told the meeting an innovation statement would be handed down before Christmas.

    The Australian understands there was widespread agreement at the meeting on a “go for growth’’ strategy, which included tackling red tape, much of which is ­administered at the state level.

  219. Tintarella di Luna

    More choice cuts –

    The mini-summit of 25 people headed by the Prime Minister, included 10 ministers, four officials, including Reserve bank governor Glenn Stevens, and 11 leading business, union and community figures.

    Problems solved by 25 twerkers

    Australian Council of Social Service chief executive Cassandra Goldie said after the meeting: “What binds us together is that we all want to see great economic growth, that is about opening up job opportunities.’’

    – don’t we all — seeing is one thing, being is another – I wonder if all Australians can get a pair of Goldies at SpecSavers.

    There was widespread agreement on the need to tackle tax concessions that are “no longer fit for their purpose’’,

    target identified – super – a sitting duck.

    Business Council of Australia chief Jennifer Westacott said states had to be part of the reform conversation because the redesign of spending programs and tackling the burden of regulation crossed into the states’ domain.

    funny though the States weren’t invited along to the meeting of the clique of claques —

  220. A Lurker

    Viva I think was objecting to why I was up in arms about a local regressive who fancies herself as a community organiser wanting to bring refugees into my small and struggling country town.

    This is why

    He believed the tone of the government was already changing for the better under Mr Turnbull. He said many Muslims had been offended when the Abbott government indicated it was more likely to accept Christians rather than Muslims in the new intake of 12,000 Syrian refugees announced last month. “It gave the impression that Syrian Muslims are not welcomed and that was another blunder by the government. Such a great announcement (to take 12,000 refugees) should have been used to strengthen the interaction between the communities (yet) it was more divisive than inclusive.”

    He said a teleconference this week between Muslim community leaders and Paris Aristotle, the head of the Refugee Resettlement Advisory Council, made it clear the Syrians would be chosen on the basis of need, not religion.

    There would have been some reassurance under an Abbott Government that the people being brought in would have better able to integrate – however as soon as Turnbull got in I knew that he’d be sucking up to the UN and Muslims in general, that he would have no care and concern for the fate of our nation.

    Seems as though I was right.

  221. Tom

    I’m interested in this case primarily because the left’s case against Newman — and Lord Waffle’s unprincipled surrender — appears to rest on a classic propaganda lie:

    IMMIGRATION Minister Peter Dutton is letting a controversial US anti-abortion activist stay in Australia an extra day until the federal government decides what to do with him.
    TROY Newman arrived at Melbourne Airport on Thursday morning despite Mr Dutton this week revoking his visa amid concerns the speaker would incite community harm.
    Upon disembarking his 6.40am United Airlines flight, immigration officials told Mr Newman his visa had been cancelled and detained him.
    Mr Newman, who has suggested doctors who abort babies should be executed, had planned speaking engagements with Right to Life groups in Melbourne, Sydney, Hobart, Brisbane and Cairns.
    His wife, Mellissa, did not have her visa revoked and went to the High Court on Thursday afternoon to help her husband appeal the visa decision.
    But shortly after counsel for Mr Newman told the High Court the visa decision was flawed, lawyers for the immigration minister said they were willing to enter into discussions with Mr Newman.

    Mr Newman’s barrister said the federal government’s decision to prevent the speaker from coming to Australia was flawed because Mr Newman had never incited violence.

    High Court Justice Geoffrey Nettle has adjourned the matter until Friday afternoon to give Mr Dutton time to consider the case overnight.

    The Australian simply parrots what the left — including its all-purpose mouthpiece, Wikipedia — is saying about Newman — that he wrote in a book in which he argued that abortionists “should be executed”. However, Bolt said on radio last night that was false: he had simply argued that abortionists should be tried for murder — a far different proposition. To deflect the accusation that abortion is mass murder, the left has carefully constructed the lie that this guy is dangerous.

    The left is evil. Leftists lie about everything. All the time.

  222. Ros

    Poor Greg Sheridan, I think he is losing it. And I do empathise.

    “Turnbull should keep up a string of these meaningless and cost-free gestures, at least one a fortnight until the next election.

    We could take advantage of the discovery of water on Mars to set up an exploratory committee to make an eco-friendly Australian manned mission to Mars by 2039, using hyperdrive and wormhole technology.

    And to show our commitment to renewables, we could seek to make commercial use of electricity from moonbeams by 2049.

    And surely enlightened animal rights activists will appreciate the dolphin communication strategy set to give us a conversation on sustainability with the ocean’s most intelligent creatures by 2069.”

    And I don’t think the Cats are the only ones thinking of voting Labor. At the very least he is chivvying them into fighting back and saving us.

    And Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek will lamely have to go along in a bipartisan spirit lest they tempt the fates by challenging the Zeitgeist.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    In the UK Telegraph today the top story is the breaking news of the mass shooting in Oregon. Other big stories are Russia in Syria and, again, Comrade Corbyn.

    Gunman at Oregon college reportedly kills 15 with 20 more wounded- live updates

    No info about who the gunman is, although the reports are he (I’m assuming a he) has been taken down, possibly into custody.

    + ‘Russia kills US-backed Syrian rebels in airstrikes as Iran prepares for ground offensive’
    + Who are the Russians bombing in Syria and why?
    + Russia to US: ‘We launch air strikes in one hour. Stay out the way’
    + Con Coughlin: Putin is calling the shots – Obama is sidelined
    + Hammond warns Russia they face ‘legal consequences’
    + Is Putin the only leader with a coherent Middle East strategy?
    + Putin has embarrassed us all in Syria. Welcome to the age of Russian power

    Actually it seems to me to be about Russian weakness, especially in the economic side of things. But having a ‘small victorious war’ is always a great way to get your popularity figures up and not be hung from a lamppost.

    + If Corbyn can’t change Labour’s mind on Trident, he must stand down
    + Could Jeremy Corbyn ‘do a Nick Clegg’ on tuition fees?
    + Trident debate may last until May

    Interesting contrast. Saying on the one hand ‘welcome to the age of Russian power’ then discussing the dismantling of Trident which was designed to confront Russian power.

    ***
    Some UK news:
    Uber clampdown could add to London’s travel costs and worsen traffic
    Uber traffic jam.

    Revealed: GPs paid thousands in bonuses to stop you going to hospital
    Dying is so much cheaper.

    Blowing hot and cold: Highlands village has hottest and coldest temperature in Britain – on the same day
    Amazing stuff CO2.

    Nudists in Surrey village object to flats because their naked tennis would be overlooked
    That’s the idea.

    VW removes 4,000 diesel cars from showrooms in Britain
    Naughty cars.

    Oxford University Student Union bans free speech magazine ‘No Offence’ because it is ‘offensive’
    Defensive about offence.

    Britain’s youngest terrorist, a 15-year-old from Blackburn, ‘planned to behead his teachers’
    ISIS kiddie.

    Vatican cricket team to play Muslim club from Yorkshire
    Religious warfare.

    Bristol Council wastes £37k on tree art project
    Nutless wonder. (link)

    ***
    More stories:
    Fears of a Chinese ‘hard landing’ trigger mass exodus from emerging markets
    Going to the promised land.

    ‘World first’ hydrogen-powered electric bike
    And if you have a match you get a rocket assist.

    Abbott says awarding Prince Philip knighthood was a mistake
    Sir Phil the Greek.

    Ukraine and rebels to pull back heavy weapons in move that ‘could signal end of war’
    We need them in Syria.

    Attacks on J**s rise to five-year high in Germany – more than any country in Europe
    Ironic how I have to edit this particular headline because of a certain avian.

    French Channel Tunnel train drivers ‘haunted’ by migrant deaths
    Maybe our Sarah could counsel them.

    More than 200 refugees from Syria and Afghanistan clash repeatedly in German asylum centre
    Utopia.

    Donald Trump: I would send Syrian refugees back
    Was that a few million lefty head explosions I just heard?

    Japan politician tells women to ‘contribute’ by having more babies
    On strike.

  224. Ros

    Now the ABC reports the nbn doing in the School of the Air. Any mention of the Communications Minister of the time. Ha

  225. Gab

    Blurb on Newman’s book:

    Abortion is murder. There is no way around it. You can try to justify it by claiming the health of the mother, but the truth is only a small percentage (less than one-tenth of 1 percent by some counts) of the 1 million babies killed each year are to save the mother’s life. Instead statistics suggest that 85 percent of all abortions are performed as a means of birth control and are three times more likely to be by a woman on Medicaid. Family planning and abortion clinics in the United States are a $2 billion a year industry with a 1.3 percent growth for the last five years, with 40 percent of all the country’s abortions being performed at Planned Parenthood.

    For years we have been told that legal abortions were necessary for the health and well being of the mother. It is a lie. Dr. Bernard Nathanson, cofounder of the National Abortion Rights Action League turned Christian antiabortion activist, admitted that his group lied about the number of women dying from illegal abortions.

    Thanks to people like Dr. Nathanson (pioneer abortionist-turned prolife activist), Troy Newman, Cheryl Sullenger, Abby Johnson (former Planned Parenthood worker), and Lila Rose (undercover antiabortion activist), the truth is out. Abortion clinics by and large are seedy, dirty, nefarious profit centers that don’t care a lick about the woman or her rights. They are all about turning a quick buck.

    Just look at Dr. Kermit Gosnell in Philadelphia. He cut the spinal cords of live babies with scissors. Dr. Douglas Karpen in Houston twisted the heads off of live babies. Another clinic threw remains on their roof to avoid hazardous waste removal fees. Another clinic used a garbage disposal. It is becoming widely known that this is a barbaric practice that needs to be stopped. In January 2014, Gallup found that 64 percent of Americans support outlawing abortion in the second trimester and 80 percent support outlawing it in the third. Public opinion is moving in the direction of fewer and safer abortions.

  226. john constantine

    “We have to get in first”.

    The comment from the shire council, giving their economic position on the fact Australia cannot pour an unending amount of money into the welfare industry pyramid refugee scam.

    Yes, the money cannot pour endlessly, so therefore the smart ones get in first and clean up before the bust.

    Interestingly, local councils with the ability to tax capital are in a strong position, as the number of nonratepaying voters increase relative to ratepayers, the progressive councilors become more secure.

    Profitability doesn’t affect council rate income, they can sell up objectors for failing to pay rates and use the money to progress the sustainability of high wage, non-productive politically progressive jobsworths.

    Detroit is the future.

  227. Sydney Boy

    … and this is a picture of a Sydney, Australia street.

    Nothing that can be fixed with a D12.

  228. calli

    Thanks for that Gab.

    He’s obviously a very dangerous man. Keep him out. He might upset people by telling the truth.

  229. Gab

    lanned Parenthood performs more than 300,000 abortions each year but exactly zero mammograms. That’s not a new conservative talking point attacking America’s largest abortion provider; that is the word of Planned Parenthood’s own CEO as she appeared before Congress.

    When New York Democrat Carolyn Maloney raised the issue of mammograms, a regular liberal talking point to bolster claims that Planned Parenthood is about women’s health, the claim was shot down by PP CEO Cecile Richards. Maloney cited mammograms as one of the many “life-saving services provided by Planned Parenthood.” Then Republican Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming asked how many Planned Parenthood clinics have mammogram machines.

    “There aren’t any Planned Parenthood clinics, I believe,” Richards said. “To the best of my knowledge, not any have mammogram machines at their facilities.”

    Video

  230. Tom

    Justice Geoff Nettle, who’s hearing the Troy Newman visa appeal in the High Court, took the 2013 Jill Meagher rape-murder trial in the Victorian Supreme Court before being elevated to the High Court in 2014 by federal Attorney-General George Brandis.

  231. Gab

    Bolt cites the “violence-inducing” passage from Newmans book written 15 years ago:

    In addition to our personal guilt in abortion, the United States government has abrogated its responsibility to properly deal with the blood-guilty. This responsibility rightly involves executing convicted murderers, including abortionists, for their crimes in order to expunge bloodguilt from the land and people. Instead, the act of abortion has been elevated to a ‘God-given right’ and the abortionists canonized as saints.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_pope_could_soon_be_banned_and_jailed_under_our_police_state_of_the_left/

  232. Zippy The Younger

    Some of that islamic cultural enrichment

    At least 50 reported to have died in attack on coalmine in Xinjiang in September

    Uighurs blamed for the attack on mostly Han Chinese workers at a coalmine in troubled Xinjiang province on 18 September, Radio Free Asia reports

    At least 50 people died in an attack last month at a coalmine in China’s violence-prone Xinjiang province, US-based Radio Free Asia reported on Thursday, as the country geared up to mark 60 years since the establishment of what it calls the Xinjiang Autonomous Region.

    The government says it faces a serious threat from Islamist militants and separatists in energy-rich Xinjiang, which sits strategically on the borders of central Asia and where hundreds have died in violence in recent years.

  233. Zippy The Younger

    Posting xenophobic views online in Germany could cost you your job & child – report

    Individuals who choose to share radical or xenophobic views on social media risk not only losing their jobs in Germany, but their children as well, local media reports. Posting an unorthodox opinion on Facebook could be enough to get the ball rolling.
    It’s not clear how “radical” opinions will be defined. But simply by expressing discontent with Syrian refugees living nearby or making threats toward asylum-seekers parents may accidentally push things too far, Die Welt reported, citing the Deutsche Anwaltauskunft information portal of the German Lawyers’ Association.

    Controversial political or religious sentiments from a parent will have a direct impact on the rights of the child, if the child’s welfare is endangered thereby. A family court will have to clarify whether an action endangers the child’s welfare indeed and whether termination of parental rights is necessary.

  234. calli

    Public opinion is moving in the direction of fewer and safer abortions.

    Have the public ever been for plentiful and unsafe abortions?

    It’s one of those things that most normal people either don’t think about, or don’t want to think about. Until it’s shoved directly under their noses. Fifteen minutes ago, I read that blurb to The Beloved. His reaction – what the? Followed by disgust. He has never really thought about it and did not follow the Gosnell case.

    If it was seal pups being clubbed, it would be all over the news. But it’s just little humans who don’t matter.

  235. Ros

    Says it all about Turnbull. Prattling on about the great stuff he is going to do at the next COAG. Meantime 3 weeks before Adam Giles rated a call.

    Small state. Giles doesn’t hang out with the big end of town or socialites. And I will say it, Giles doesn’t have the saving grace of bring one of the Aboriginal Victim elites, while being an Aborigine.

  236. Zippy The Younger

    ISIS brags about links to US Senator John McCain

    The United states is manufacturing it’s own enemies. ISIS fighters are bragging on the internet about having their photo with US Senator John McCain

    During the US bombardment of Libya, US backed Sunni Jihadists were actually bragging to media about fighting US troops in Iraq and having ties to Al-Qaeda. Nevertheless, Obama ordered the military to stand down and allow Sunni Jihadists to loot stockpiles of Libyan weapons. These weapons are now being used to wage Jihad in Mali, Nigeria, Chad, Syria, Iraq, and beyond. Now Obama is using these very same weapons to justify US military action in several African nations.

    The US then began supporting Sunni Jihadists in Syria. Among other things, the US provided Jihadists with a large number of Toyota trucks. When ISIS came roaring over the Iraqi border, the main vehicle their fighters were driving was Toyota trucks.

    The international media is also reporting that the United States gave anti-tank missiles to Turkey to distribute to Jihadists groups. The entire mission was green lighted by US Senator John McCain.

    In fact John McCain even had his picture taken with a group of Jihadists. One of those Jihadists was FSA Khalid al-Hamad. It was Khalid al-Hamad who became known as the “cannibal Jihadists” after having a friend video tape him eating a human heart! It is also been reported that Khalid al-Hamad called his unit the “Osama Bin Laden Brigade.”

  237. Zippy The Younger

    NO REFUGEES, NO TERRORISM

    Jordan’s Queen Rania told Europeans that they could either take in the Syrian refugees that her country doesn’t want or the refugees would turn to terrorism. And what if these “refugees,” like so many of the other Muslims who had settled in Europe over the years, decide that they like terrorism anyway?

    A tenth of London approves of ISIS now. Support for the Islamic State among the younger population in the UK, where Muslim demographics predominate, reaches as high as 14 percent.

    What will it look like when tens of thousands of Muslims from the homeland of the Islamic State are added to the population? How much support will there be for Islamic terrorism a decade from now when the mass Muslim migration has fundamentally reshaped the UK’s religious demographics?

    A recent poll of Syrians showed that 22 percent believed that ISIS had a positive influence on their country. And that’s only the level of support for the most controversial Jihadist group there. They haven’t bothered to measure the level of support for more “moderate” Jihadist groups like the Al-Nusra Front, which is linked to Al Qaeda, or even the Islamic Front, whose components were included in the Free Syrian Army. The Sunni rebels backed by the West are universally Jihadist fighting forces.

    Even the New York Times admitted that, “Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.”

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