Turnbull belts the Opposition on tax smear

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78 Responses to Turnbull belts the Opposition on tax smear

  1. Slayer of Memes

    You’re welcome O Doomlord.

  2. Woolfe

    Doomy thanked Grig not yous Slayer

  3. Gab

    Lots of waffle and pontification from turnbull but that’s all. We must be sure to remember this grandstanding from turnbull when he “reviews” taxes on our superannuation.

  4. Infidel Tiger

    I thought the answer he gave before this one was even better.

    Something to do with the Opposition paying more attention to his personal finances than he ever gets time to.

  5. Norma

    He did well in defending his wealth, but you still can’t make me approve of his treachery .
    Actually, what was achieved today could well have sent many of the caucus going home to ponder how to get around the Rudd rule.

  6. Sinclair Davidson

    Thank you to everyone who helped.

  7. Norma

    A Fairfax poll must surely be due this weekend. What’s the bet there is a question on “preferred leader of the ALP”?

  8. Baldrick

    Turnbullshit did a good job sticking it to Labor over his wealth.

    Then again, so he should. He’s had several years to go over these questions and get the answers right.

  9. Gab

    Hmm, yes, I particularly like turnbull’s insult to Australians:

    “some of us are fortunate in the intellect we inherit from our parents”

    He’s the smartest man in the room and so where his parents. Smarter than my parents, apparently.

  10. entropy

    Thing is, the tendency to grovel and backtrack at the slightest provocation was always Abbott’s greatest failing. This is the correct approach: bat it straight back, and if they return, escalate. Abbott was always too scared he would be portrayed as a boxing thug that he never did his, and pissed off his base. If only turnbull was interested in governing for his the LNP base.

  11. Token

    Everytime Shorten is named in the Royal Commission we can expect the excrement being spread by the left.

    Pity Lord Waffler is misses what he takes so much time setting up.

    Attack Shorten you dill.

  12. candy

    I’m sure MT and Morrison told us to invest in Australia’s future, but perhaps it was the Cayman Islands.

  13. I am the Walras, Equilibrate and Price Take

    This country is built on hard work and enterprise.

    Facta non verba. Otherwise its just more waffle from Waffleworth.

  14. Slayer of Memes

    Doomy thanked Grig not yous Slayer

    I know Woolfe. His advice helped Sinc post the video itself, mine was just to be able to link it.

    Just reminds me of the numerous other times when I have posted links to articles (and sometimes the whole article itself) only to see someone else link the same article 3-4 hours later and be thanked by other Cats for it.

    Makes one wonder if they are on ‘scroll patrol’….

  15. H B Bear

    Not sure it will make much difference at the end of the day.

    At the end of the day Mrs KRudd may well have more wealth than Lord Turnbull but it never resonated with voters (thanks to the efforts of the media). Lord Turnbull will be stuck with this at every opportunity. Keep an eye on how often the Point Piper mansion photo gets a run.

  16. egg_

    At the end of the day Mrs KRudd may well have more wealth than Lord Turnbull

    Several times over, no?

  17. egg_

    Labor didn’t take long to start unleashing the dirt.
    How’s Aunty travelling on that score?

  18. mr skeletor

    Reminds me of his Apocalypse Now speech – everyone including Bolt were falling over themselves over how good it was while I wondered what I was missing. Same here.
    I mean it’s an OK comeback but if you think it was post worthy you need to get out more.

  19. Alfonso

    Alas, Lord Waffle still doesn’t get it.
    The legality of his Bahama operation is obviously ok.
    His political problem is being imprinted on Cheyne and Kylie’s long term memory as we speak. PAYG Cheyne and Kylie can’t do Bahama’s.
    Waffle says there is no tax avoidance and he went there to be with fund managers who give his investments arms length separation from his political decisions in Australia. He pays the same tax as if domestic. Sounds accurate.
    Neato.
    Unfortunately for the half bright Liberal staffers, the large self employed Tradie cohort I associate with daily reaction was ……..”Well, why go to a tax haven?” And then it got worse.
    My thoughts entirely. A UK, US or tax treaty partner fund manager achieves the same arm’s length result.
    Start making it up and you’re cactus, ask Lu Kewen.

    God these Liberal elites are stupid.

  20. Grigory M

    This, and his preceding waffle, were pretty typical non-answers and obfuscation. I saw them live this afternoon, and said so at the time. The sooner he is turfed out the better.

  21. Linden

    yes that was Abbott’s biggest failing, and I’d reckon it was due to Credlin telling what to say etc, he never ever really was himself.

  22. Linden

    Well the same sediment has to be said of the Labor geniuses after all apparently there super money is in the same place!

  23. JMH

    Who cares where this whackjob sticks his money. Who cares?

    What I care about is how far the gurgler this Pretender to the Throne will deliver us.

    Agenda 21? Climate hysteria on steroids?

    This man is dangerous. This man is a fake. This man needs to go. (NADT)

  24. Oh come on

    What a lot of blather. No, this is exactly the kind of distraction that prevented the Abbott government from delivering the (allegedly) good news to Australians about its record. Malquisling pointed to such distractions when justifying the knifing of Abbott. Now we can see Malquisling’s just as vulnerable to these distractions as Abbott – possibly more so.

    Turncoat’s got to go.

  25. Oh come on

    JMH, well he isn’t going to go of his own accord. I suggest you do start caring where he sticks his money. A lot.

  26. Toiling Mass

    I’m sorry, but the Doomlord has been deathly silent about Turnbull until this particular pronouncement.

    It is like ignoring Mussolini until the chance to highlight that he has the right attitudes toward trains timetables.

  27. Pickles

    Think nothing of it Professor. I also offer a Cert M in Photocpying Your Own Arse At The Office Christmas Party. Five hour course. Five CPD points. Ethics strand.

  28. Grigory M

    Think nothing of it Professor. I also offer a Cert M in Photocpying Your Own Arse At The Office Christmas Party. Five hour course. Five CPD points. Ethics strand.

    And a complimentary DNA swab.

  29. Amused

    “Catallaxy readers belt the Doomlord on his Turdbull fanboism”

  30. Gab

    Some of the belting directed at the Doomlord is a little unfair.

  31. JMH

    “Catallaxy readers belt the Doomlord on his Turdbull fanboism”

    Rightly so. There are none so blind who refuse to see. Those who decline to actually look. At the evidence.

    Stupid is s stupid does!

  32. Grigory M

    Some of the belting directed at the Doomlord is a little unfair.

    Yeah – Lem, come on down – you need your ears boxed, too. 🙂

  33. Amused

    Some of the belting directed at the Doomlord is a little unfair.

    Not really – If you lay down with Lord Waffles the Cat Strangler, you wake up with fleas.

  34. Infidel Tiger

    The anti-Turnbullism seems to have fried more than a few here’s brains.

    Being rich as fuck and minimising tax are never wrong.

    Hate the man but never ever besmirch capitalism and free markets. Ever.

  35. Gab

    minimising tax are never wrong.

    Tell it to turnbull and his “we’re going after the companies that don’t pay their “fair” share of tax” sanctimonious anti-capitalism gang.

  36. Think nothing of it Professor. I also offer a Cert M in Photocpying Your Own Arse At The Office Christmas Party. Five hour course. Five CPD points. Ethics strand.

    Didn’t photocopiers die out with the fax machine?

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Don’t worry Gab. I will kick them in the slats until their hair bleeds.

  38. JC

    Didn’t photocopiers die out with the fax machine?

    Ask your drinking buddy (Laserjet8600), Driller. He’s know.

  39. Sinclair Davidson

    Thanks Gab – but as IT says the anti-Turnbullism is frying people’s brains.

  40. candy

    Hate the man but never ever besmirch capitalism and free markets. Ever.

    It’s not that for me, although he sounds dubious about his reasons of “keeping distance” or something. I don’t believe that.
    But as PM he tells people to invest in Australia, but he’s putting money somewhere else. And then he will go about cutting penalty rates and putting GST up.

    Bill Shorten is right to question whether Mr Turnbull is in touch as Australia is getting poorer and there is struggle out there. Putting a tax up and cutting wages is not positive policy.

  41. Attack Shorten you dill.

    Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake. Shorten is their mistake. Leave him there. Let him rot the Labor vote.

  42. Gab

    Attack Shorten you dill.

    What could turnbull possibly have to use as an attack on Shorten? the TURC? oh, I doubt turnbull will bring that up.

  43. Gab

    but as IT says the anti-Turnbullism is frying people’s brains.

    As is the turnbullian love-in going on here by some as evidenced by the lack of critique on turnbull to account for all the money he’s spending, the UN bid, the rush to implement the NDIS, the refusal to repeal 18c etc etc etc

  44. dan

    He could invest in Guatemalan gunstores for all I care as long as he lowered my taxes, unlikely as that may be.

  45. "Up The Workers!"

    So if I understand this correctly, it seems that Labor’s Laberal Party millionaires, are RICHER millionaires than Labor’s Labor Party millionaires.

    Have I got that right?

    I take it that Bull Shitten isn’t counting the $20 million that his criminal former Party Federal President thieved from the low-paid members of the H.S.U. (Help yourSelf Union). I notice that on behalf of his Party, he still hasn’t mustered up the honesty or the decency to apologise or make full and grovelling restitution.

    Isn’t it odd that no matter how rich the political millionaire, they can ALWAYS find time to put their snout in a poor-man’s trough, and snuffle up all the slops.

  46. mr skeletor

    Thanks Gab – but as IT says the anti-Turnbullism is frying people’s brains.

    Why do you post unimportant crap like this yet there is no post addressing Turnbull’s dropping of 18c, a much more important and relevant topic?

  47. mr skeletor

    By “crap like this” I was referring to the article.

  48. kc

    Maybe a bit more to this than meets the eye and Labor not smart enough to pick up the nuances. No doubt MT has a stack of cash in managed funds in the Caymans, and so do local super funds. Also no doubt he is smart enough to declare and pay tax on all the dividends brought back to the country, but does that actually mean all the dividends accrued or just what is repatriated? If dividends are reinvested and all that is brought back is what is needed for annual “play lunch money” then, at some stage, the accrued (and untaxed) dividends will be of a very significant undeclared income. Maybe even a retirement nest egg one might take when moving to a low tax country to retire, or maybe MT is just so rich he is happy to pay all his 49% tax on all his earnings, both as PM and all the dividends are being declared and repatriated every year. Does not really make sense however. Why would you bring all the profits back into the country, pay you wack of tax, and then, having way too much cash, reinvest it back in managed funds offshore? You would leave the profits there, untaxed and accruing compounding value within the managed fund and maybe, never really have to pay tax at all. Seems to me, having a little bit of experience, that you leave funds accrue dividends unless you need the money and don’t ever pay tax until you draw the money out…..wherever that may be!

  49. Leo G

    Did Malcolm Turnbull really suggest a link between intelligence bestowed at birth and wealth attained by accident of birth?
    Unfortunately, he did sound like the smartest person in the room on this occasion.

  50. Splatacrobat

    Haha Even Burnside couldn’t vote in the affirmative that Australia is racist. Only Rea was left playing scissors when everyone else chose rock.

    If the same question was asked on Q&A it would have been a completely different result.

  51. Splatacrobat

    sorry wrong thread

  52. Hugh

    Malcolm has obviously looked at a few Donald Trump videos and realized attack without apology can really work in your favour. Tony Abbott never grasped this point – thus, he was always playing off the back foot. Pity – I certainly don’t subscribe to all or even most of Abbott’s philosophy, but Turnbull is a obviously a brain in search of an idea, with hubris driving the engines below deck.

    (BTW, is it just my imagining, or has the whole of Anglophone politics been affected by Trump’s punching back at the liberal media?)

  53. Infidel Tiger

    Turnbull created his own wealth. Shorten had to marry for his.

  54. Cheryl

    Hugh yes yes yes I’m loving it. He doesn’t give a shit.
    IT correct. Exactly what my family and friends are saying. Shorten knows it too. He is hoping and a praying that he can get away with it like Rudd and Julia.
    It will not happen because Tony will destroy him too. Tony is and was way ahead of the Labor Party and is a strategic genius IMHO.
    The TURC will and has exposed Shorten and Julia and Rudd and Peter and on it goes.
    Turnball is next.

  55. Pusnip

    I used to think Cats were just being sore losers immediate after Abbott was thankfully dislodged but now, reading the further repetition of the same old unsubstantiated and irrational criticisms of Turnbull, its clear that the only change was that you were all feeling sore.

  56. Infidel Tiger

    Shut up, Pusnip.

    You believe in AGW and Keynesianism. You’re a shameful retard.

  57. C.L.

    I think Labor has a fair point here.
    Nice work, Shorto.

  58. Fisky

    Not sure if Turnbull’s answer quite hit the right notes.

  59. Pusnip

    Just as anti-Turnbullism had been frying other Cats’ brains, Imbecile Pussy, so a spray of Pusnip seems to be frying yours, such as it. Feel free to maintain the rage though” that is, after all, one of my KPIs.

  60. I used to think…

    Probably for the best.

  61. notafan

    I thought Turnbull was saying some was inherited.
    He wasn’t getting a whole lot of love from his front bench. It seems like he suddenly realized that he was on the wrong tack on how lucky me me me was and switched to the taxi cleaner rather pointless comments. Just got a weak dig about the cleaners there.
    And yeah I think his suggestion to Shorten that he wears a sandwich board is excellent.
    Shorten just needs to add the words ‘in the Cayman Islands’ to the end.

    Tony’s traddies might still feel a man with a mortgage is more their kind of guy, not someone that rabbits on about technology and innovation which are just words unless Turnbull thinks question time should now be devoted to coming up with ideas for new apps, a frontier that seems to have been tamed already.

    He’s an every child should have their own puta kind of guy.

  62. Senile Old Guy

    But as PM he tells people to invest in Australia, but he’s putting money somewhere else. And then he will go about cutting penalty rates and putting GST up.

    Excellent, Candy.

    The Doomlord is still infatuated.

    The Turncoat has been in office for a few weeks and has done nothing about the budget except send it further into the red, has backed down on 18C and waffled on terrorism.

    The man is a rich but pretentious loser.

  63. min

    A pompous waffler who needs to be the top dog to make up for the little boy who was abandoned by his mummy.

  64. handjive

    Here’s one to bookmark when Talkbull rolls out his 2016 planet saving action on carbon(sic):

    Malcolm Turnbull spending $95,000 for a private jetty at his Point Piper mansion

    If you believed in doomsday global warming sea level rise, with access to Australia’s leading 97% climate doomsday scientists, wouldn’t you relocate it a few metres higher up the shore?

  65. Yohan

    I’m waiting for Steve Kates to eventually make a pro Turnbull post. Will it ever happen 😉

  66. Jessie

    Very good handjive 🙂

    Would anyone have a link/discussion to ‘vulture companies’. Having never heard of these, I am interested to learn more after reading anti-Turnbull comments in articles published in The Australian.

  67. Rabz

    He’s still a treacherous, sanctimonious, hypocritical waffling windbag.

    1 out of ten, for the dig at Peanut Head about the cleaners (BTW, wrong union, Waffles).

  68. notafan

    One of the things that bugs me is the criticism of Tony Abbott’s speaking skills (especially compared to Lord Waffle ) when time and time again we have seen performances like this one.

    Wanna see a real Prime Minister make a commanding off the cuff speech on a matter of national significance ?

  69. The BigBlueCat

    One thing to consider … Turnbull needs to be very careful if he invests in Australia … He could be very seriously attacked on the basis on pecuniary interest if he doesn’t recuse himself from certain decisions or policies. It makes sense for him to invest offshore in order for him to avoid “other” questions that would reduce his ability to govern.

    While I am ambivalent regarding Turnbull as PM (he and Abbott are about the same when it comes to waffle) he is much better than the ALP alternative(s) … As long as the party room can keep him focused on party policy rather than Turnbull policy.

  70. Token

    1 out of ten, for the dig at Peanut Head about the cleaners (BTW, wrong union, Waffles).

    In baseball terms he pointed to the bleachers before the pitch and then missed the ball.

  71. Rabz

    wrong union, Waffles

    Oops – should pay more attention to the TURC. AWU is correct.

  72. Jim

    Token you said…

    Attack Shorten you dill.

    I disagree in the short-term. Shorten is the gift to the LNP that just keeps giving. I’m sure there will be some attacks, but leave that till just prior to the election when it is too late for the ALP to change the jockey.

  73. alexnoaholdmate

    Lots of waffle and pontification from turnbull but that’s all. We must be sure to remember this grandstanding from turnbull when he “reviews” taxes on our superannuation.

    Exactly.

    I remember someone saying, “Turnbull won’t promise to repeal 18C, and then refuse to do so.”

    Well, he has – he’s refused to back his own (rather lightweight) compromise bill to water it down.

    “Turnbull won’t promise to lower taxes, and then refuse to do so.”

    What would you call a ‘review’ – that no one but the Left and the unions asked for, by the way – of our superannuation contributions?

    And remember, traditional Liberal voters – you don’t matter!

  74. TC

    Turnbull can say any thing and the press gallery will agree it was brilliant . They made their choice and they are never wrong.

  75. Fred Lenin

    Liberals and millionaire socialists evade tax using overseas set ups,the Bruvvas syeal money set up “slush funds” ,and take bribes to amass enough wealth to evade taxby using overseas set ups ,I think its called ” aspiration ” I think . All lawyers and politicuans are inherently dishonest nothing should surprise us with these muppets.

  76. Louis

    This is BS. I see news articles today praising Malcom and asking if he is too good to be taken down. The only reason he is the Barry Obama of the media in Australia at the moment is because the media want to believe he is and so don’t do their usual hatchet jobs. The was nothing awe-inspiring in his reply. I listened to it after the hype expecting to hear some magnificent smack down. It was not! Nor was it delivered particularly well. Malcom is just one more millionaire socialist.

    Basically, exactly what TC says above.

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