The Emperor’s Recycled Clothes

As reported today in the media, including in the SMH by Chris Kenny, the Labor Party has proposed to cut Australia’s 2005 measured emissions by 45% by 2030 and to lead Australia towards a goal of a totally emissions neutral Australian economy by 2050.  This presumably on top of the Labor Party’s prior announced policy of a 50% renewable energy target.  This later target presumably to be achieved through wind and solar because dams can’t be built for hydro, trees can’t be cut down to be burned and god forbid nuclear.

No numbers or costings or cost benefit analyses were provided.  No dependencies or contingencies were noted, such as action by China, India, US, Canada, Russia – you know the major emitters.

Henry Kissinger once said that “the test of policy is how it ends, not how it begins“.

This is how it begins and we all know how it ends.

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Talk about shallow and cynical politics.  Can someone out there please advise what the impact on global temperatures will be of this policy.  Please be specific.  None of this leadership clap trap or Australia can afford it.  There is a cost to such a policy, what is the benefit please.

Another demonstration of economic and foreign policy developed in the social and gender studies faculties of inner city universities.

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35 Responses to The Emperor’s Recycled Clothes

  1. Rabz

    This “policy” makes about as much sense as Peanut Head announcing he wants to cut his approval rating by 45%.

    In a just world, that would be the outcome.

    Can someone out there please advise what the impact on global temperatures will be of this policy.

    Less than zero.

  2. Talleyrand

    It is Mark Kenny, not Chris Kenny at the SMH. The latter is the sensible one who writes for The Australian.

  3. .

    As reported today in the media, including in the SMH by Chris Kenny, the Labor Party has proposed to cut Australia’s 2005 measured emissions by 45% by 2030 and to lead Australia towards a goal of a totally emissions neutral Australian economy by 2050.

    Up yours. I will burn off just to spite this policy.

  4. Ian Plimer

    Can someone please show me that the human emissions of CO2 drive global warming. If this can’t be done, then we should abandon all policy that derives from this assumption (that is underpinned by bad science). If someone can show me that the human emissions of CO2 (3% annual emissions) drive global warming, then can you please show me that the 97% of annual emissions from natural causes (e.g. ocean degassing, volcanic exhalations, respiration etc) don’t drive global warming.

  5. Craig

    Ian….because the IPCC said so! What do you know? Michael Mann is the man!

    Only kidding Ian, love your book and keep up the good work

  6. Craig

    ‘Heaven and earth’ in case you’re wondering which book

  7. Ubique

    The outcome of this policy will be to discourage investment in Australian industry and drive existing industry and production overseas where energy efficiency and environmental controls are inevitably lower than Australia. The results will include a reduction in our international competitiveness; a loss of employment; a substantial reduction in our living standards; and a net increase in greenhouse gas emissions, and pollution of air, ground and water.

    At least the resulting increase in greenhouse gas emissions will stimulate plant growth and food production, so that’s one positive outcome that Tits can point to.

  8. H B Bear

    Peanut Head is doing a pretty good Corbyn impression.

  9. Mat

    If Labor know they can’t win the next election then this is a great way to give Turnbull room and still act conservative.

  10. robk

    According to various sceptics’ blogs it is stated in the IPCC’s main text rather than the summary, words to the effect:
    “because climate is the product of non linear chaotic systems it is impossible to predict climate accurately.” That is the only meaningful piece of information in the whole report.
    In answer to your question: no one can be sure. My best guess is CO2 is innocent.

  11. robk

    P.S. I think David Evans and Jo Nova are presenting quite a solid argument for the innocence of CO2 by showing how the existing modeling has a flaw that dates back about 100 years. They have proposed a revised model based on the same physics but applied a better architecture that is consistent with modern data. It is a breath of fresh air.

  12. J.H.

    Well Shorten has called us the “Denialist Militia” today….. Apparently we are now an armed organized irregular military force rampaging in the streets…. and likening us to Holocaust deniers for good measure.

    He also says the Media should not give balance or airtime to this “Denialist Militia”.

    Shorten is Balkanizing the Scientific debate with the language of Civil war and strife. The man is a hysteric.

    Skeptic militia ‘eh?….. Well I suppose, if Labor and Labor lite policy crashes the economy enough….. anything is possible. 😉

  13. J.H.

    Bill Shorten….. “Let’s not pretend that we have an obligation to give equal weight, coverage, or credence to the babble of the denialist militia.”

  14. cynical1

    denialist militia

    So there are no skeptical scientists?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

    Yup, I’ll take Bill’s word for it…

  15. mundi

    A survey of the labor elites recently showed that climate change was the most important issue to them. The upper ranks of labor have gone green.

    They are completely out of touch with their own voters, whose most important issue is the economy, let alone the non labor voters.

  16. Fred Lenin

    Good on yez Billy ! Supporting the u.n. ocrats energy Tax ,good timing there ,the u.n. muppet with the brown paper envelope is en route to see you . The hollande leftist hovernment is getting organised for the influxof Very Important Warmies . Parks have been set aside to accomodate the mass of hot airvballoons they will arrive in . The central city gardens are being covered in the tents they will sleep in,and the French Army is building kitchens to supply le soup and baguettes to feed them ,and using muslim troops to dig latrines . As well 30,000 troops are to protact them from religion of peace activites ,dont worry comrades ,the energy u.n. Tax is as good as gold ,10 per cent this year seasonally adjusted to 80 per cent next year ,then onward and upwards ,these are fine times fir rent seekers .

  17. Opinionator

    Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them. George Orwell.

  18. Dr Faustus

    At present the carbon dioxide price in European markets is around EUR 7/tonne – at which price regulators acknowledge it is ineffective in forcing reductions in CO2 emissions. The plan is to increase it to around EUR 30/tonne by 2018 by buying back several billion credits.

    Wee Willy’s plans for a carbon free Australia include a focus on sequestration and purchasing credits on the international market. Sequestration at an industrial scale has massive environmental risks and has never been proven – so the weight is on carbon credits and windmills.

    Assuming Australia still has a productive economy by 2050, the cost of offsetting a large part of the 550 million CO2 tonnes we produce each year will equate to billions of dollars transferred to spurious abatement schemes in developing economies around the world. Assuming all of the 190 million CO2 tonnes emitted by stationary energy becomes 100% substituted by renewables, that leaves us spending EUR 11 billion (AUD$16 bn) each year on indulgences for the rest.

    Luckily, Australia has AUD$2 trillion in superannuation assets – so, we’re sweet, it’s nothing more than a 2% annual levy on balances over $200,000.

  19. Fred Lenin

    This Muppet shorten is as mad as the krudster ,”denialist Militia ” indeed ! Just as well his comrades at the u.n. energy Tax bullfest are not in Australia ,there would not be enough soldiers and police to protect tgem from “the denialist militia ” put the religion of peace to shame .
    Modern politics is a cesspit and our lot are deep inside it ,digging !

  20. TheSemiMentalBloke

    So will this happen before or after the Caliphate.
    And what is the musli m stance on climate change?
    Don’t they prefer reading by goat oil lamp?
    Will climate change be needed after we are all mozzies and all the lefties and special people have been beheaded.

  21. Adrien

    Don’t knock those 100 000 000 000 dollar notes from Zimbabwe. They’re worthwhile. Why just yesterday I was able to use one to put a down payment on a box of matches.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    We don’t need costings.
    It’s ve roight fing to do.

  23. Leigh Lowe

    “Denialist militia”, says Pieman.
    I do hope Captain Agility calls him out on his militaristic machismo.

  24. Zyconoclast

    Looks like pincer attack on the Australian economy.
    From the top use expensive intermittent power and regulation..
    From below unlimited welfare and NDIS.

    Squeeze the middle till it collapses.

  25. egg_

    Short’un’s upping the ante to eleventy to wedge Tumbrill?

  26. egg_

    “Denialist militia”

    Guns ‘n’ No’ses?

  27. rickw

    As reported today in the media, including in the SMH by Chris Kenny, the Labor Party has proposed to cut Australia’s 2005 measured emissions by 45% by 2030 and to lead Australia towards a goal of a totally emissions neutral Australian economy by 2050.

    I didn’t know we had decided to close down?

    At the moment I’m looking at a rural property, I need three phase power, I’m really torn between buying a rotary inverter and a genset. At least if I have a genset then I don’t need to rely on these idiots to supply electricity.

  28. rickw

    Don’t they prefer reading by goat oil lamp?

    It’s the goat powered caliphate revolution, it’s the next big thing, at least everyone who’s a real person (men) gets a Toyota Hilux and an AK 47!

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    I was interested that in the grab shown on Seven News of Shorten’s announcement of national seppuku by 2050 he specifically mentioned “climate sceptics”.

    That is a tell, since it means he thinks he knows what climate sceptics are. Which means he is shit scared of us.

    Good. He should look at the data and employ someone scientific as an advisor who doesn’t swim in the sea of money and politics infecting the climate field.

    No, not me, I have standards.

  30. Lem

    Bill Shorten’s antics reek of his own political fear.

  31. Marcus Classis

    Lord Wentworth, Maocolm the Flaccid will be on to The Accused Rapist’s idea of an ecofreak CO2 giant new tax on everything like Milton Orkopolis onto a five year old.

  32. Rohan

    Adrien
    #1869903, posted on November 27, 2015 at 4:04 pm
    Don’t knock those 100 000 000 000 dollar notes from Zimbabwe. They’re worthwhile. Why just yesterday I was able to use one to put a down payment on a box of matches.

    Adrien, that Zim note is actually $100,000,000,000,000. Forteen zeros after the one, not eleven.

    Incidentally they’re now worth about $90-100 on eBay. About 150-200 times what it was worth when Magabe abandoned the currency for USD around 2007.

  33. Turtle of WA

    Far be it from me to suggest voluntary climate martyrdom through the voluntary reduction to zero of CO2 emissions emanating from the lungs of warmists. But if they want CO2 emissions at zero percent, someone will have to stop breathing first. And it won’t be me.

  34. Cynic of Ayr

    I’m up for corrrection about the value of the note.
    I thought:
    A UK Billion was a million million (twelve 0’s)
    A US Billion was a thousand million. (nine 0’s)
    A UK Trillion was a million million million (eighteen 0’s)
    A US Trillion was a thousand thousand million. (twelve 0’s)
    So, my guess is, using the US style, a 100 Trillion Zims is Fourteen 0’s.
    Now, I could have this all, back to front, and the US and UK may have come to some agreement about it during the last fifty years, and I blinked and missed it.
    My source, I’ll have you know, is impeccable! A James Bond novel, with forgotten villain, read in my twenties.
    Even so, I’d hate my pension to drop to a 100 Trillion dollars – US or Aus Dollars.

  35. Elwood

    Even reducing emissions by 20% means generating 50% of electricity from wind and solar. Until there is viable electricity storage that just isn’t going to happen.
    The only other means would have to include policies like banning air conditioning, and any recreational travel.

    Shorten is just an AWU thuggee who wouldn’t have a clue what his policies would have to mean in practise. I think its mostly about protecting Plibersek’s seat from the slime.

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