Open Forum: February 13, 2016

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  1. Lol, just love the liberal party staffers on Malcolm Turnbull’s Valentine’s Day facebook thread, urging commenters to “show some respect for the office” of PM, and to not “sully the magic of today”.. etc etc etc etc et-far-king-cetera..
    Lolololol

  2. BorisG says:

    I am sick & tired of having profiles deleted, or suspended, purely because I express opinions that differ from that of swampies.

    there is a simple solution: don’t use it. I don’t.

  3. C.L. says:

    IT called it yesterday: yes, Lyon was banging Brownless’s ex.

    Fairfax’s David Prestipino is right:

    Others were far more open with their criticism, including Fairfax journalist David Prestipino, who accused Lyon of using the mental health condition as cover for a sex scandal.

    david prestipino ? @winestein32
    it seems any celebrity embroiled in scandal has a mental illness of some sort these days
    12:14 PM – 14 Feb 2016

  4. Stimpson J. Cat says:

    David Prestipino, who accused Lyon of using the mental health condition as cover for a sex scandal.

    I am outraged at these scum who use mental illness to gain sympathy and cheap laughs.
    Outraged!!!

  5. I am sick & tired of having profiles deleted, or suspended, purely because I express opinions that differ from that of swampies.

    there is a simple solution: don’t use it. I don’t.

    Quite so BorisG.
    That in no way cools my desire for vengeance.
    I’d be thrilled to see that swampie loving left-wing hippy site taxed so hard their arse falls off. 🙂

  6. JC says:

    Listen to him (Brownless) in the vid (CL’s link). It’s shocking.

    The wife is pounding his friend/workmate and the dude reckons he should have been a better husband. Some dudes should be executed for embarrassing the male species.

    Fme.

  7. JC says:

    This one cops a beating because he’s trying to spice up sex life.

    Meet Chao Gao.

    After discovering a dildo among her husband’s belongings during a move Wednesday night, the Florida woman attacked her spouse, leaving him with bruises and scratches on his face, according to cops who arrested Chao for domestic battery.

    As detailed in court records, the 48-year-old Chao and Joshua Sinclair, who have been married for just over a year, were driving to a new residence in Sarasota when Gao confronted Sinclair about the sex toy she discovered.

    In a police statement, Sinclair wrote that Gao became furious upon learning from him that “a dildo she found was actually for me to use.”

    Yep, Smoking Gun link.

  8. C.L. says:

    After discovering a dildo among her husband’s belongings during a move Wednesday night, the Florida woman attacked her spouse, leaving him with bruises and scratches on his face, according to cops who arrested Chao for domestic battery.

    As detailed in court records, the 48-year-old Chao and Joshua Sinclair, who have been married for just over a year, were driving to a new residence in Sarasota when Gao confronted Sinclair about the sex toy she discovered.

    In a police statement, Sinclair wrote that Gao became furious upon learning from him that “a dildo she found was actually for me to use.”

    Something tells me the marriage won’t last.

  9. Something tells me the marriage won’t last.

    For some reason my intuition concurs.

  10. S' says:

    Ahahahahhahaha.

    Fairfax-Ipsos poll: voters cool on Turnbull as Coalition support drops below 2013 election levels.

    A summer marred by ministerial crises and the prospect of a higher GST has taken the shine off the Turnbull government, sending the Coalition’s share of the vote below that achieved by Tony Abbott at the 2013 election.

    Ahahahahhahaha.

    Would be very entertaining to go over threads when Lord waffle challenged and won.

  11. JC says:

    Stocks are going to open up nicely Monday morning after this bit of news.

    Good news everyone: the Chinese government has released some positive economic data, not at all fudged, pointing to a sharp increase of retail sales during the past week of lunar new year’ celebrations, up 11.2% year over year.

    The ministry statement said retailers firms grew to about 754 billion yuan ($115 billion) during the Feb 7-13 “Golden Week.”

    In other orient related news, the head of the PBOC would like everyone to shut the fuck up about yuan devaluation and to please stop reading rumors of suchness.

  12. JC says:

    Basil

    I’m off to bed. Don’t post any stupid shit in my absence.

  13. Sorry for the lighter posting earlier Cats, I was busy writing a policy update for the Katter Party.

  14. srr says:

    TRUMP Warns French Mag of ‘End of Europe’
    Adds, “If I Would Have Been at Bataclan, I Would Have Fired”

    Trump said he would have shot the ISIS terrorists at the Bataclan.
    (translated from LeJDD)

    I always have a gun at me. I can tell you that if I had been at the Bataclan or in a cafe, I would have shot. I’d be dead -being, but I unsheathed, “he says.

    The interview is created headlines across Europe but has been ignored by the liberal American media.

    Trump also predicted nothing less than “real revolutions” if there was not a change in policy—presumably as native Europeans rise up against their own treasonous leaders.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/trump-tells-french-mag-end-of-europe-is-near/

  15. srr says:

    ‘It’s a national SCANDAL’ 10 ‘PLAGUE’ cases as deadly diseases from past return to UK

    SOME of the deadliest diseases in history are making a comeback in the UK, and there are fears even the Black Death could return to these shores.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/643880/Plague-cases-Black-Death-deadly-diseases-past-return-UK-hospitals

  16. classical_hero says:

    Rachel Khoo will be a judge on MKR when they start with that side of the Guests. She is a delicious dish.

  17. BorisG says:

    Mr. Trump stood by his past remarks that he would have supported the impeachment of President George W. Bush over the war in Iraq, saying that his administration misled the country about weapons of mass destruction. “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction, and there were none,” Mr. Trump said.

    Interesting what our Trump supporters think, including those who applauded the Iraq war.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    In the UK Telegraph this Monday morning there’re a fair number of significant stories around on Brexit, migrants and Syria, but I’ll lede with the most prominent story on the main page, which is the BAFTAs:

    + Baftas 2016: Stars of the screen gather on red carpet for Britain’s biggest awards ceremony
    + Live: Celebrities walk on Bafta red carpet
    + Baftas 2016: The red carpet, winners and highlights
    + ‘Dragging the Baftas into the gutter’: Stephen Fry’s 20 best quips
    + Anti-Baftas: the 22 worst British films of all time

    I think I’d prefer to attend the Anti-BAFTAs myself, especially since the appalling Mr DiCaprio is featuring at the real ones.

    ***
    Some UK news:
    British band Viola Beach killed after car plunges 82ft from highway bridge into Stockholm canal
    Strange accident. It almost soulds like they were trying a stunt.

    Europe will ‘lurch in wrong direction’ if Britain quits EU
    That’s the idea, since they are lurching that direction anyway.

    Victoria Beckham on bringing back the corset – and being a working mum
    Whalebone?

    Rain, sleet and snow as temperatures set to plunge to -15C in parts of UK
    Frigid.

    Rationing of NHS hearing aids may fuel dementia epidemic
    Why not buy your own then?

    Jeremy Corbyn ‘will quit as Labour leader by 2020’
    That’s four more years of daily headlines. LOL.

    The radical hard-Left Momentum activists mounting a purge of moderate Labour MPs
    And here’s today’s headline.

    The wind farm tax ‘con’: Ministers consider u-turn on pledge to stop subsidies for on-shore turbines
    What’s it take to kill off these suckers? Sheesh.

    George Osborne’s buy-to-let raid risks damaging UK economy
    St George slays the evil investment property dragon, with Turnbull playing Sancho.

    ***
    More stories:
    Major central banks tear up interest rate plans
    Yellen gets a faceful of egg.

    Republican debate turns nasty as Trump and Bush clash
    Bush comes to shove.

    Donald Trump set to come under attack over Vietnam deferments
    Funny how such questions aren’t asked of Democrats.

    ‘Jeez, oh man’: Kasich despairs at fellow Republicans
    Sopping wet RINO is unhappy.

    Greek riot police fire tear gas at crowds protesting against new migrant ‘hotspot’ on island of Kos
    Volcano erupts.

    Austria threatens to send in troops to stop asylum-seekers
    Defending the gates of Vienna.

    Clooney: ‘US not doing enough to ease migrant crisis’
    Looney.

    Arab states are seeking nuclear weapons to counter Iran, Israel warns
    Well done Mr Obama.

    UN says 2015 was worst on record for civilian casualties in Afghanistan
    Forgotten waugh.

    Swedish police investigate killing at refugee centre
    Instant no-go area.

    How Mexico’s most dangerous city transformed itself to become safe enough for the Pope
    Ciudad Juarez cleans itself up.

    Furious church-goers barricade St Valentine’s remains in cathedral after attempted removal
    Who stole my valentine?

    Pets get married on Valentine’s Day
    Slippery slope goes vertical.

    Goa attempts to classify India’s treasured peacocks as vermin
    Pretty flying rats.

  19. Herodotus says:

    Ok – so Iraq and Syria never had any WMD or nuclear facilities that Israel had to destroy, and Iran is intent on developing nukes and ballistic missiles for peaceful purposes only. Got it.

  20. Baldrick says:

    Tom
    #1945695, posted on February 15, 2016 at 6:55 am
    Leak.

    The man is a genius.

  21. calli says:

    Ahhh, With a new set and all, Sunrise continues to maintain the highest reporting standards.

    First, viewers are treated to the new “Political Reporter” (whose name escapes me, but then my job isn’t to remember his name) calling Tim Wilson Tim Palmer not once but twice. Confusing, as Wilson’s name is at the bottom of the screen.

    Then, the office junior takes over the shift, and we are treated to the delightful news:

    William helps save boy chocking on peanuts

    Must have been a Snickers.

  22. calli says:

    Rachel Khoo will be a judge on MKR when they start with that side of the Guests. She is a delicious dish.

    I was hoping it would be Nigella. If C.L. happened to be absent during the broadcast time, he could be teased mercilessly.

    And just for the record, Life of Brian is one of cinema’s great comedies.

    There. I said it.

  23. calli says:

    I see the Uppercase Fairy has been fiddling with my iPad.

  24. calli says:

    Republican debate turns nasty as Trump and Bush clash
    Bush comes to shove.

    😀 😀 😀 Three chuckles award.

  25. Token says:

    Ok – so Iraq and Syria never had any WMD or nuclear facilities that Israel had to destroy, and Iran is intent on developing nukes and ballistic missiles for peaceful purposes only. Got it.

    Remember when the hard left & soft appeasing centre (right) made sneery jokes about Bush supporters being mindless thrawls whi would agree to whatever talking points the BushHitler issued?

    In the world of the Trump personality cult such people are sneered at in the terms laid out by the latest whim of their Dear Leader.

  26. Token says:

    This rumour is delicious (note it is worth reading up on Leo Strauss to understand why)

  27. Tel says:

    Looks like Turkey decided to escalate. Guess we get to find out what those Russian missiles do when you light them up.

    Why would the Turks be so determined to support a bunch of terrorists in Allepo? Beats me.

  28. Rabz says:

    Roadside drug testing hurls people into the legal system for having the most minute traces if drugs in their system, but operates without a shred of evidence to prove it reduces the number of accidents.

    A very sensible observation. What really gave me the shits about random drug tests (introduced in NSW by labor, of course) was how could the test actually determine if the presence of drugs impaired your driving? At least with RBT for booze there is an arbitrary limit that allows the presence of some alcohol in a person’s system.

  29. Tom says:

    Inside the lizard brain of a communist “thinker”:

    Jason Wilson, The Guardian Australia, February 12:

    The Labor Party has no Sanders or Corbyn … Perhaps this timidity on the official left is because Australia was spared the worst of the recession that ravaged North America and Europe from 2008.

    Never forget the far left’s Holy Grail is always moral purity and unelectability.

  30. Rabz says:

    Via Bolt – more colourful hijinks in Sydney over the weekend.

    The pictures of course, are very instructive. The brawlers at Ivy were (surprise, surprise!) lebs – and just get a load of the tattooed bogan slag in the pictures of the Marrickville incident. Also, what sort of indescribable arsehole goes into a Chinese restaurant and starts hurling around chairs?

  31. Andrew says:

    Does anyone know why Our Timmy quit the HRC now rather than at the election? He’s up against Downer. What if he’s not pre selected? Is there some eligibility rule that forced the early resignation? Or is there a rule specific to the HRC?

  32. Rabz says:

    The Labor Party has no Sanders or Corbyn

    Yes, but it has got the Slovenian hag, who’s as doctrinally pure as either of the imbeciles above.

  33. classical_hero says:

    I was hoping it would be Nigella. If C.L. happened to be absent during the broadcast time, he could be teased mercilessly.And just for the record, Life of Brian is one of cinema’s great comedies.There. I said it.

    The rumour was Nigela but the reveal was a surprise.

    T
    Those who hate The Life Of Brian don’t understand great cinema.

  34. Arky says:

    Public sector employees are not permitted to engage in party political activities whilst on duty.
    Attachment containing frequently asked questions addresses the legislative and policy issues arising for employees contesting elections, including the difference between nomination and pre selection as a candidate.
    Federal elections

    Public sector employees are required to resign to contest the election.
    The resignation must take effect before a public sector employee nominates as a candidate.
    If not elected, a public sector employee may seek reappointment if they do so within two months of the declaration of the election results.
    State elections

    Public sector employees are required to resign only when elected.
    If nominated as a candidate, a public sector employee may apply for and be granted a leave of absence until the election is declared.
    Local government elections

    Public sector employees are not required to resign to either contest an election or even when elected.

    ..

  35. Is it just me or is the shenanigans with the Nauru baby creating an incentive for other asylum seekers to “Whoops! Where’d that boiling water go? T’was an accident, can we come too?” Nah, no parent has ever hurt their child. Ever.

    That said, how many other Nauru babies have been hurt, and under what circumstances? And I wonder what advice Sarah Sea Patrol is giving?

  36. Entropy says:

    Leak should have had Tarzan Turnbull clad in a fig leaf rather than a loin cloth. For allegorical purposes.

  37. srr says:

    Oh goody, so it’s official –
    debate audience noise is pushing Washington Beltway Establishment Agenda –

    RNC Under Fire Over Debate Audience Stacking–
    Local GOP Chairman Confirms Party Donors Get Debate Tickets

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/14/rnc-under-fire-over-debate-audience-stacking-as-local-gop-chairman-confirms-party-donors-get-debate-tickets/

    Glad Trump had the balls to call out that bleeding obvious cheating by America’s Dictators.

    Pity all the rest of the weak men are now trying to steal credit with, ‘me-to-ing!’, and not being called to give credit, and apologies, to Trump … pity for them and their supporters … Trump beats them again, with their own displays of lack of character.

  38. Leigh Lowe says:

    Listen to him (Brownless) in the vid (CL’s link). It’s shocking.

    The wife is pounding his friend/workmate and the dude reckons he should have been a better husband. Some dudes should be executed for embarrassing the male species.

    Fme.

    Chronology is everything JC.
    I’m pretty sure that interview happened before the lunch-cutting came to light.
    Sounds to me like a bloke doing a public mea-culpa to repair the marriage.
    Social meeja are all over Lyon.
    No-one is buying the mental illness story.
    Career over I’d say.
    Even Ricky Nixon is giving him a smack.

  39. Nic says:

    Beery, I’ll bet that thought took a whole nanosecond before it occurred.

  40. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘Public sector employees are required to resign to contest the election.
    The resignation must take effect before a public sector employee nominates as a candidate.’

    Arky, I don’t think these are Commonwealth public sector guidelines, and in any case , Wilson on isn’t technically a public sector employee, he’s a statutory appointee.

    The clincher is, however, s 44 of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act which provides that any person who holds any office of profit under the Crown [which Wilson certainly does] : ‘shall be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a member of the House of Representatives’. Following the outcome of Sykes v Cleary, I believe Wilson would have to resign before lodging his nomination as a candidate.

  41. areff says:

    Brownless must have found a quilt of discarded body hair on his matrimonial sheets.

  42. areff says:

    A very sensible observation. What really gave me the shits about random drug tests (introduced in NSW by labor, of course) was how could the test actually determine if the presence of drugs impaired your driving?

    I read somewhere — aged memory failure — that only one test of driving while under the influence of THC has ever been conducted on real-life roads. That was in Holland. The rest are all simulations with, or so one might suspect, the metrics and parameters set by moonlighting climate scientists.

    Confession time: Having driven many, many times in my youth when bent as maggot, the only effect a joint had on my performance was to shave 10-15kph off my speed.

  43. Pete of Perth says:

    Tonight’s the Night. t-minus 11hrs till Q&A

  44. feelthebern says:

    Joe Aston gives Ms Irvine a massive serve in the AFR today.
    No link, pay walled.
    Funny if you have a subscription.

  45. Des Deskperson says:

    For Cat who are students of bureauspeak, manageobabble or general linguistic cowardice, Football Australia is planning to overcome soccer violence using, among other things, a ‘flare management plan’ !

    http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-ceo-david-gallop–a-league-s–true-fans–can-help-eradicate-troublemakers/1pnlbg6mg33dc16q11mntv4f8z

  46. Rabz says:

    Is there a more useless human being blighting this planet than David Gallop?

  47. srr says:

    The Beer Whisperer
    #1945730, posted on February 15, 2016 at 9:05 am

    Is it just me or is the shenanigans with the Nauru baby creating an incentive for other asylum seekers to “Whoops! Where’d that boiling water go? T’was an accident, can we come too?” Nah, no parent has ever hurt their child. Ever.

    That said, how many other Nauru babies have been hurt, and under what circumstances? And I wonder what advice Sarah Sea Patrol is giving?

    No Beery, it’s not just you.

    It was this issue that brought about my only, ding-dong, door slamming, walking off, argument with one of my kids.

    They simply could not countenance that whole cultures could breed and use their own children as political and literal weapons.

    No, to them, the selling, shipping off, raping along the way, and drowning of babies and toddlers, was only proof of how much worse it was in the lands they were fleeing.

    They had that big hearted, soft headed need to believe that once in a better country/situation, those barbaric people would naturally become civilised.

    btw, I didn’t do any of the slamming and ding-donging, but simply, calmly stated undisputed facts, which in a Uni indoctrinated, scrambled young mind, was more damning evidence of a lack of human compassion, something the poor child knew I could never be accused of, so slamming the door on that unfathomable contraction was all that was left to protect their big heart from their explosively expanded mind.

    It was a sad day.

    Thankfully, Uni days are long gone, and reality has stepped up to reassure them that I’m not and never was the monster that those child sacrificing cultures keep telling our youngsters their privileged white parents are supposed to be, and that it’s actual monsters that are at war against us.

  48. areff says:

    the only effect a joint had on my performance was to shave 10-15kph off my speed

    Forgot to mention an increased incidence of searching under the passenger seat for Pink Floyd cassettes and chocolate frogs.

  49. Fidel says:

    The Brownless interview on Open Mike was before the event.
    Anyway, it’s Billy who’s had the horns put on him and it’s all about poor Garry.
    Or doesn’t it count once a separation occurs? Banging your best mate’s ex.

  50. Fidel says:

    PS areff.
    LOL

  51. srr says:

    so … is everyone waiting for the new Monday OT to open?

    It’s already past the, get to work, boot the computer, grab a coffee and catch up with office gossip, quite at The Cat time 😉

  52. Leigh Lowe says:

    The Brownless interview on Open Mike was before the event.
    Anyway, it’s Billy who’s had the horns put on him and it’s all about poor Garry.
    Or doesn’t it count once a separation occurs? Banging your best mate’s ex.

    Again, that is the way it is being portrayed.
    But I suspect we might find she was very much not “ex” when the liaison started.

  53. Fisky says:

    Very interesting article on how the Bush white house actually found WMD in Iraq in 2004, but refused to go public. Didn’t want to make a fuss, and besides, the public had already decided there weren’t WMD.

    Typical of the GOP to do this, just throw away issues and demoralise their base. Vote Trump.

    Santorum said that in 2005 he began raising the issue with the White House himself. “I had discussions over a period of a year or two. Why aren’t we mentioning this? Why aren’t we doing anything on this?” he recalled. But Santorum later became so frustrated that by 2006, his message to the White House was: “I am going to do this [go public] whether you do it or not.”

    One former senior White House official who requested anonymity confirmed that the White House had no interest in 2006 in re-engaging the public debate over weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. He said that other lawmakers had recommended Bush give a press conference with some of the discarded weapons wearing a protective suit.

    “We killed that idea at the time,” the former official said. “It’s not a good idea to have the president near this stuff, it’s very dangerous.” This former official said that there were attempts from the White House in 2004 to get some in the media to write about the issue, but the narrative about Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction was already fixed in the mind of the public and the press. “There was not much we could do on this,” this official said

  54. Leigh Lowe says:

    The clincher is, however, s 44 of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act which provides that any person who holds any office of profit under the Crown [which Wilson certainly does] : ‘shall be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a member of the House of Representatives’. Following the outcome of Sykes v Cleary, I believe Wilson would have to resign before lodging his nomination as a candidate.

    Does it follow that he must resign his post to nominate?
    Or that he must resign before election day … “being chosen“?
    Or that he simply must resign before being sworn in … “or of sitting“?

  55. A Lurker says:

    @ Srr, as Conservatives and Libertarians our most important job is deprogram those who have been brainwashed by the Education system in Australia.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Prosecutor Margaret Cunneen SC has warned every member of a committee of the NSW parliament that they risk criminal penalti­es if they release details of her taped telephone calls, which she says have been unlawfully supplied to the committee.

    Her lawyers issued the warning after an extract from a transcript of the phone taps was leaked to Sydney newspapers on Friday soon after it was given to the committee­ by the Independ­ent Commission Against Corruption.

    “Every member of the parliamentary committee has both a responsi­bility and a statutory duty not to disseminate or leak any transcript or audio recording of the taped conversation provided to him or her by ICAC,” the letter says. “It is a criminal offence.”

    The letter, which has also been sent to NSW Premier Mike Baird, accuses ICAC of committing a criminal breach of the ICAC Act by providing the material to the committee. It gives notice that the incident is being referred to federal and state police for a possible criminal investigation.

    This is sharply at odds with statements by ICAC commissioner Megan Latham and is set to complicate the task confronting the committee, which is seeking advice of its own on whether it is legally entitled to receive and publici­se the telephone intercepts.

    The committee, which meets today, is also expected to consider calls from ICAC’s independent inspector­ David Levine for an investiga­tion of the leak, which he has described as appalling.

    From the Oz.

  57. srr says:

    That Debate Moment When the Script Is Evidenced…

    No intellectually honest person can deny the Greenville South Carolina debate was constructed to provide maximum benefit for Marco Rubio. The structure was so brutally transparent even the customarily obtuse punditry are having a hard time obfuscating.

    We have been pointing to the GOPe road-map for over two years. As each tripwire is crossed, the ridiculous justifications of those in denial necessarily increase; but that doesn’t mean we will stop pointing out the strings on the presidential marionette show. Cue yet another audio visual demonstration.

    Do you see anything odd with this screen shot from the live CBS debate?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/rubio-cbs-graphic.jpg?w=960&h=536

    Perhaps you’ll note – that in order for the CBS production staff to put a Marco Rubio “immigration position” graphic on the screen, at the exact moment when he was questioned about it – there had to be a particular pre-planned intent.

    And no other candidate had ANY similar graphic used, at any individual moment, on any individual topic, other than this one. This was the only time CBS put out a candidate position graphic during a candidate response. Are you more curious now?

    [read and watch on]
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/14/that-debate-moment-when-the-script-is-evidenced/#more-112390
    _____________

    Southern Son says:
    February 14, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    Thank You again Sundance. I woke my wife up hollering at the TV when they showed that grahic! And the only mention of it is HERE, in the Refuge. I hope someone from DT’s campaign is following you. You Are a True and Vigilant Patriot. SALUTE!!

  58. dweezy2176 says:

    “Is there a more useless human being blighting our sport than David Gallop?”

    It is a mystery to me how the most incompetent & useless managers end up in such well renumerated positions not only Gallop but Flannery, Shorten, Tumble and all their political ilk.
    This “flare” plan will, of course, be utter nonsense except to Mr. Gallop, who has made a motza out of nonsensical plans starting at the NRL before being unleashed on the “wonderful” game .. You wonder where “fitba” is headed when you read this rubbish or even this snippet from a “journo” at the weekend …… ”
    “The indiscretions were not at the same level of the Wanderers’ supporters — who let off more than 20 flares, including frightening detonators — and it would be a surprise to see Victory charged”.

    So it seems it’s not, actually, flares that are a problem but Wanderers fans …….. best thing is do a”Rama” Baird & lock us out ….. no fans .. no flares .. you know it’s what you want!

  59. Arky says:

    Arky, I don’t think these are Commonwealth public sector guidelines, and in any case , Wilson on isn’t technically a public sector employee, he’s a statutory appointee.

    ..
    Des.
    Its the constitution, it’s Mabo, it’s the law, its the vibe…
    No, that’s it. It’s the vibe…

  60. Des Deskperson says:

    “Does it follow that he must resign his post to nominate?”

    LL, according to the judgement in Sykes v Cleary, yes.

  61. thefrollickingmole says:

    Is it just me or is the shenanigans with the Nauru baby creating an incentive for other asylum seekers to “Whoops! Where’d that boiling water go?

    Heres what happens.

    I was running one of the separation blocks (about 25 people screened as non refugees) at PH when we had one of the loose units threaten to neck himself if he wasnt seen straight away by DIMIA.
    Unfortunately his threat crossed a request from DIMIA to bring him for an interview. I put is a quick “oh crap can we cancel this” report, which was ignored.

    The rest of that week was non-stop theatrical self harms because they had seen it ‘work”.

    The centers are exactly what their residents make them. No more, no less.

  62. Roger says:

    Looks like Turkey decided to escalate. Guess we get to find out what those Russian missiles do when you light them up.

    Enter NATO.

  63. Myrddin Seren says:

    I find this one kind of interesting from Richard North at EUReferendum.

    As he often does – he paraphrases his chum Christopher Booker’s main Sunday column in the UK Tele – sort of a free look outside the Tele’s monthly page view limit.

    EU referendum: losing our abilities

    It is now 20 years since the only occasion when a British minister, Angela Browning, resigned because she could no longer tolerate being told by her officials, whenever she proposed a sensible policy on some issue, “Oh no, minister, we can’t do that because it would be against European policy”.

    Vast numbers of our civil servants have grown up in a world where they have never had to think for themselves what might actually be the best policy for Britain, because such decisions have all been outsourced to a higher supranational level.

    People aren’t all dragged along the Road to Serfdom – often they step out happily because it seems like the soft option.

    ( Trigger warning – Wayne Swan gets a mention )

  64. Roger says:

    They simply could not countenance that whole cultures could breed and use their own children as political and literal weapons.

    If I understand correctly baby Asha’s family hail from Nepal.

    The only group likely to suffer persecution there is the Christian minority at the hands of Hindu nationalists.

  65. Baldrick says:

    Prosecutor Margaret Cunneen SC has warned every member of a committee of the NSW parliament that they risk criminal penalti­es if they release details of her taped telephone calls, which she says have been unlawfully supplied to the committee.

    Excellent use of escalation as a tool to whack Leftards over the head.

  66. Oh come on says:

    Trump lied about Bush knowing there were no Iraqi WMDs in 2003. He doesn’t know the facts and hasn’t bothered to find them out before commenting. There is simply being wrong and then there is lying. Considering Trump is using this claim as a weapon in the debates, I think it’s fair to claim he’s lying.

    Fact: pre-invasion, every government intelligence service on the planet believed, and the governments of every major country stated, that Iraq had WMDs. The disagreement was over whether it was worth going to war over them.

    Fact: detritus from WMD manufacturing facilities turned up all over Iraq post-invasion.

    Fact: pre-invasion satellite imagery exists that depicts convoys travelling from Iraq to the Bekaa Valley in neighbouring Syria, ruled by Bashar al-Assad, an ally of Saddam. Many analysts believe these convoys contained Iraq’s WMD arsenal, to be hidden in the caves of the Bekaa Valley until after the invasion had ended. Saddam had form for such behaviour, having flown the bulk of his airforce over the border to Iran (!) after Desert Storm commenced to prevent it from being destroyed by the Americans (I believe the Iranians subsequently kept the Iraqi birds – suckers).

    Trump parroting Code Pink talking points is incongruous with his promise to “Make America Great Again”. Who’s he going to invite up onto his podium next? Mother Sheehan?

    This is dealbreaking stuff for me when it comes to Trump.

  67. . says:

    Iraq had WMDs. Just not nukes.

  68. . says:

    Even Ricky Nixon is giving him a smack.

    What does his next **** look like?

    I can’t see Ricky really smacking anyone down after the most tasteless joke this side of Anne Frank memes.

  69. srr says:

    A Lurker
    #1945760, posted on February 15, 2016 at 10:14 am

    @ Srr, as Conservatives and Libertarians our most important job is deprogram those who have been brainwashed by the Education system in Australia.

    Yep, and that’s where I admit I wasn’t prepared for just how much re-progamming Uni did.
    You keep up through primary and high school, teach them about the tricks used to convince them that lies are truth, and think they’re prepared to survive Uni.

    But away from home and daily deprogramming, and happy to catch up and share happy news when you do get together, you don’t suspect that they get taught to actively avoid hot issues with families, so as to avoid having the new un-realities knocked out of them before they’re set.

    So when you ask, “They haven’t got you believing xyz?”, expecting the answer to be, “No.”, and they give you a lighthearted, jokey version of, “No.”, you tend to hear, “Of course not! You taught me better than that.”, and are happy to continue on with happy conversations of exciting things they are so keen to share.

    Then, one day, they’re home when an ugly bit of news comes on, and you simply make one obvious comment, and that’s when you discover why being trained in avoidance of hot issues, is such a big part of indoctrination, and just what a big part of Uni ‘education’ it is.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Enter NATO.

    Not if Turkey is the aggressor, which they are.

    On the other hand Erdogan has been trying to give Bambi cover by jumping up and down saying we’re fighting ISIS when really he’s just fighting the Kurds. Who are US allies.

    Bolta’s article this morning is pretty good.

  71. Top Ender says:

    They simply could not countenance that whole cultures could breed and use their own children as political and literal weapons.

    I was doing research for one of my books many years ago, concerning the Vietnam War.

    One of the interesting aspects was the Viet Cong guerrillas who would use their own 11 year old to walk up to a soldier and toss a grenade at him. Even though their own son died in the blast, many had an attitude of “I brought him into the world, and he’s mine to do what I want with.”

  72. Fisky says:

    I don’t know if Cindy Sheehan could endorse a candidate who wants to seize Iraq’s oil (which every anti-war protestor accused Bush of wanting to do).

  73. . says:

    Gallup should have been sued for misfeasance for what he did to Rugby League. How that chancer got another gig is beyond me.

    Maybe even malfeasance.

  74. stackja says:

    Des Deskperson
    #1945771, posted on February 15, 2016 at 10:35 am
    “Does it follow that he must resign his post to nominate?”

    LL, according to the judgement in Sykes v Cleary, yes.

    Paul Hasluck faced a similar situation:

    I had been paid a total of £1,000 out of the contractual amount when I became a political candidate and, to avoid the constitutional barrier to holding a seat in Parliament while having an interest in a contract with the Crown, the then Prime Minister, Mr Chifley, on the recommendation of the then Minister for the Interior, Mr H.V. Johnson, agreed to cancel the contract . Although subsequently it was decided that I should produce two volumes instead of one, I sought no further payment . Hence I have not been paid and have no claim to be paid anything for the remainder of the work I have done . The obligation that held me to the work was simply the “gentlemen’s agreement” that I had with Messrs Chifley and Johnson, when they released me from thecontract, that I would complete the job without payment. I have done so.

  75. Nic says:

    “I brought him into the world, and he’s mine to do what I want with.”

    This rationale is used to explain why suicididing parents in places like HK often take their kids with them when they go.

  76. Rabz says:

    While I haven’t been following the Brownless/Lyon imbroglio closely, Lyon’s claim that he only bonked Brownless’s ex because of a bout of mental illness strikes one as a rather odd claim to make.

  77. Roger says:

    Not if Turkey is the aggressor, which they are.

    That depends how Erdogan frames events in order to bring Art. V of the NATO Treaty into play.

  78. Diogenes says:

    Shiney new fred ….

  79. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Y’all should be reading today’s Daily Telegraph articles($) on Cunneen too. The words used to explain the phone intercept have included “puffery” and “was just talking the “lingo” of the tow-truck driver”.

    Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

  80. vr says:

    A nice piece by a Yale Law Prof on grave dancers like Monty.

    Link

  81. This rationale is used to explain why suicididing parents in places like HK often take their kids with them when they go.

    Or Australia.

  82. H B Bear says:

    Rabz – obviously you aren’t in media.

  83. Heres what happens.

    Frollicker, of that I have no doubt. Desperate people do desperate things, bit that doesn’t make it right of acceptable, despite leftard assertions that such behaviour is indicative of sincerity.

    The idea that a simple accident can be a plane ticket to Australian residency is a very dangerous game the left are playing. It’s a really big incentive for an accident to happen. But no, their ideology demands that such instances are mere “collateral damage”, as indicated by Sarah Sea Patrol’s flippant response to mass drownings. Leftism is evil.

  84. C.L. says:

    Prosecutor Margaret Cunneen SC has warned every member of a committee of the NSW parliament that they risk criminal penalti­es if they release details of her taped telephone calls, which she says have been unlawfully supplied to the committee.

    This woman has sand. I like her.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    This woman has sand.

    Bullshitters everywhere do. Scroll up.

  86. Grigory M says:

    Prosecutor Margaret Cunneen SC has warned every member of a committee of the NSW parliament that they risk criminal penalti­es if they release details of her taped telephone calls, which she says have been unlawfully supplied to the committee.

    An interesting tactic – but will it work ex post facto? Hopefully, the oversighting Committee Chairman will make public whatever legal advice is received on the matter later today. Has the actual wording of the text message from the previous day (the day the car was rolled) been released yet?

  87. egg_ says:

    I was busy writing a policy update for the Katter Party.

    How to form Govt with the Greens & Labor Mk II?

  88. Grigory M says:

    This woman has sand. I like her.

    Who are you talking about? 😉

  89. Confession time: Having driven many, many times in my youth when bent as maggot, the only effect a joint had on my performance was to shave 10-15kph off my speed.

    areff, I think I remember riding through Avalon corners on the peninsula, thinking that I was going like a rocket, then being overtaken on the inside of a corner by a Turbocharged Trabant…

  90. Oh come on says:

    Iraq was not invaded on the pretext of its nuclear capacity, which the Israelis helpfully ameliorated a couple of decades earlier. It was its chem and biological WMD arsenal that was the major casus belli presented for the invasion of Iraq.

    Trump is an idiot if he says these weapons didn’t exist and the powers that be knew it. He may as well go and join his fellow travellers in the Bernie Sanders rallies.

  91. Oh come on says:

    NATO has a legitimate role in deterring Russian aggression in eastern Europe. Turkey doesn’t need to invoke Article V. It is more than capable of militarily defending itself against Russia, should it come to that. It could also make a hell of a lot of trouble for Russia in its south western territories by allowing all sorts of Islamic extremist rabble safe passage into Russia to start raising merry hell.

    In the scenario that NATO collapses due to Turkish misbehaviour (ie. provoking the Russians into attacking them) and the rest of NATO signs its death warrant because its members say – understandably – “er yeah I think we might sit this one out”, a mutual defence organisation will quickly replace NATO and have a much sharper focus on eastern Europe.

    There will be no WWIII. That is in nobody’s interests. Russia is too weak and poor for such a conflict not to escalate into a nuclear war.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    There will be no WWIII. That is in nobody’s interests. Russia is too weak and poor for such a conflict not to escalate into a nuclear war.

    Add to that Turkey has one of the largest armies on the planet, plus perfect defensive terrain. Also if Russia seriously challenged Turkey it would set off every muzzo on the planet, most especially the muslim sections of the Russian Federation, which are restive at the best of times. Putin is not insane and he is not that desperate.

    On the other hand Erdogan is pretty desperate since his family is dirty as they come. So I can see Erdogan bluffing Putin, since that keeps Erdogan in power. The Sunni Turks aren’t happy about the Shi’a offensive against their brothers. So far Erdogan has managed to divert that unhappiness to Turkey’s usual whipping boys the Kurds. It could get interesting if that fails to work.

  93. Serious question, Bruce. What’s your take on Kangaroo Court’s article about Cuneen linked above?

  94. rickw says:

    Add to that Turkey has one of the largest armies on the planet, plus perfect defensive terrain. Also if Russia seriously challenged Turkey it would set off every muzzo on the planet, most especially the muslim sections of the Russian Federation, which are restive at the best of times. Putin is not insane and he is not that desperate.

    I doubt the Russians want to invade, a good flogging from the air plus taking over the bits they consider to be of strategic importance is probably all they’re interested in, a larger conflict might also be considered by the Russians to allow a proper clean up of their domestic muzzo issue. Vlad probably considers all of this to be positioning Russia against the imminent arrival of Eurabia and hence the ultimate survival of Russia, so the long term stakes are quite high.

  95. rickw says:

    It could also make a hell of a lot of trouble for Russia in its south western territories by allowing all sorts of Islamic extremist rabble safe passage into Russia to start raising merry hell.

    I’m not sure they could actually cause them the same trouble that they’ve caused the rest of Europe. Russia’s response to a million military aged men massing on their borders isn’t likely to be particularly nuanced.

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